1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Andy Klesnski, Did I say it right? Oh, I'm sorry, let 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,480 me I forget to bring your mic up there? Hey there we go. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,480 Oh yeah, I can hear me now. Very good, very good. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,599 Welcome. Yeah. I like that song a lot. That's good. It's 5 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:16,039 catchy and um. Jenny and I got a big, big kick out of 6 00:00:16,559 --> 00:00:20,320 when we first watched that that YouTube video where it's you playing outside. It's 7 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:22,920 like twenty minutes long and you're doing some different songs. That's a lot of 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,800 fun. That was. That was kind of my introduction to you seeing you 9 00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:29,440 online and perfect. Yeah, I said, yeah, we gotta definitely got 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,520 to get him on. And Andy Klescenski is our musical guest. He's gonna 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,640 he's gonna play for us. We're gonna chat a bit between songs, and 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,600 uh, this will this will be a lot of fun. Um, and 13 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:43,320 go ahead and play a little Andy, if you would just kind of get 14 00:00:43,359 --> 00:00:55,520 some levels here, sure, thing should be good. I'll kind of ride 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,280 the faders as we go. I'm I'm I'm a sound guy, so I'm 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:03,399 pretty uh, I'm pretty maniacal about it. Almost all right, Okay, 17 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:07,239 that's fine, Yeah, human compressor. Here we go, very good. 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,760 Uh so, yeah, what are you what are you gonna play for us? 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,519 You want to tell us anything about the Uh yeah, I'm gonna play 20 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,840 a song called idea Man that's off of that same album, um as the 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,640 previous tune, and uh yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's that's That's 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,680 about all I got on it right now. I will doodles of dreams rising 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:38,840 off for the pain come be an idea man came in a flashing, agonizing 24 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:47,400 head. The twist them mustache shall be tying news to the track. I'll 25 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:57,079 be round the lighting eighty big and wise didn't not touch with fire that which 26 00:01:57,319 --> 00:02:06,319 was lifeless. Now respond, I don't doodles are dreams rising off for the 27 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:15,159 page? Call me an idea man, amusing gig superman or a park can't 28 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:23,360 know I am the booth. Call me an idea man, transformer of the 29 00:02:23,479 --> 00:02:37,800 truth for a couple of yucks over a couple of Bucksho no, no such 30 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:43,520 buck contempt. Consumers all say, for the love of the game, you 31 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:50,000 still show up the play. You ain't got any leverage, We ain't gone 32 00:02:50,719 --> 00:03:00,599 a bag. What saying idea anyway? I will doodles are dreams rise enough 33 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:09,479 for page call me an idea man amusing a cage, supermanraca, can't no. 34 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:17,800 I am the boot, call me an idea man transformed of truth, 35 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:30,680 the light bulb, brook screw crew choke. I'm never lifting electricity, but 36 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:34,639 I'm rising occasion. I feel the boy that will never feel I'm a dark 37 00:03:34,719 --> 00:03:38,599 horse. Term up, Yeah, every man her dark Porpuss champions coming, 38 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,199 get give me up until I'm finally in saddled and trenched in battle. I 39 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,120 ran away, My team is battled on me. Now I'm breaking away and 40 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:54,719 there's new looking back. Ain't no thinking of dreaming lonely hooss on drag. 41 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,879 I gets I'm breaking the crown. Frank Castle, Swan Swiss shacks and highways. 42 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Booe wants cold sex. I go doodles to dreams, rising off for 43 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:17,759 the page, comed me an, I D man amusing ki superman hurt. 44 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:25,399 Can't you know? I am the booth cam me an I D Man Trance 45 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Boomer of the Jew love it, thank you. Andy Klasinski is here with 46 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,079 us live in studio. That song is called idea Man and uh Barbe Barton 47 00:04:49,639 --> 00:04:55,040 feelers in the chat room, says Barbe says woo hoo. Andy sing it 48 00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:59,560 and Jenny says woot woot. Yeah, good stuff, thank you. And 49 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,079 that's so. Is that on the RPM Challenge from twenty twenty Yep, that 50 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,399 is that's on the I NFP. That's the that's the first tune. Yeah, 51 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,800 very cool. Um, yeah, I hear a lot about the RPM 52 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,439 Challenge on the show. And now what is it You've got? Like you 53 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:18,079 got to make a song a day for how many days? No, you 54 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:24,079 make an album in the month of February. Yeah, twenty twenty eight days 55 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,000 to make a full full length album? Yeah? What what's the minimum number 56 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,279 of songs required to count as an album? In either ten songs or thirty 57 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,480 five minutes? That's oh okay, I got you. Yeah. I usually 58 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:36,920 end up with eleven songs and I'm usually in right around thirty five minutes. 59 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:41,519 Yeah, thirty seven. Um, is that the only year you've done it 60 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,839 is twenty twenty and now I did it a bunch of years. Oh, 61 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:46,040 no, kid, Yeah, I went back to two thousand and seven, 62 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,399 Um, with some other projects and such. Uh wow, yeah, so 63 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:56,680 it's yeah, that's that's how I started making albums and oh recording. Yeah, 64 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,199 before that, I was just doing stuff with a little four track in 65 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,399 my room and writing writing songs. They had a cut, you know, 66 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:05,480 Leah Junior High band. You know, it was in a couple of bands, 67 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:09,360 well not even bands really, just people would get together a little bit 68 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:12,639 and high school, but it wasn't really doing a lot with it. Yeah, 69 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,639 it kind of fell by the wayside when I left high school and uh 70 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,720 and yeah, and then I picked it up again. I don't know, 71 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,959 early early twenties. Yeah, so right around right around two thousand and seven. 72 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:25,360 Oh wow, yes, I made a Yeah, they started doing that 73 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:29,040 and then it just yeah, that's one of those things that like there are 74 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,920 a lot of people who were are veterans around that that they just make RPM 75 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:35,439 albums. Yeah, over and over and over again. Yeah. Yeah. 76 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,399 Um, it's a fun challenge, is uh what is what does I n 77 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:46,839 f P stand for? Oh so that's the Myers Briggs personality identify or yes 78 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:53,399 I should have known. Yeah, introverted, intuitive, feeling perceptive. Yeah, 79 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,759 okay, okay, I don't remember why I h yeah, I took 80 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,279 that test once. I don't remember. I know that I was also an 81 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:03,920 eye because I'm also an introvert. Yeah, which is why I do this, 82 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,199 Because I feel safest. I would say I feel safest behind a microphone, 83 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,639 much more so than like, I don't go to parties or anything. 84 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,279 I'd rather be behind a microphone or on a stage or something. That's where 85 00:07:13,319 --> 00:07:15,360 I feel the most comfortable. It's funny how that worked, isn't it It 86 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,519 is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of them. I mean, 87 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,319 there's a lot of famous people who are actually introverts because you know, 88 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:25,160 they they love performing, but they'd rather do that than do a lot of 89 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,519 social things. Some of the boisterous ones too, some of the like like 90 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:31,000 the bold ones like Prince, Freddie Mercury, Michael Jackson, those guys were 91 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,839 all, oh yeah, quite introverted. Yeah, oh yeah absolutely. Um 92 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,519 can you tell me too? Some of your songs are pretty funny. Um, 93 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:43,079 oh, thank you, there's that one. I wasn't going to ask 94 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,360 you to play this one necessarily. I'm not sure the lyrics would would fly 95 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:49,000 on on on an FM show, But you know the song I'm thinking of, 96 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:51,639 I don't know. I mean, you can be describing a lot of 97 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,480 songs discography, that's true. Why yeah, used White sab I think it's 98 00:07:56,519 --> 00:07:59,680 called Oh you don't think that's gonna fall that's that's pretty funny. Well, 99 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,800 uh, let me look at the Let me look at the lyrics again. 100 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:05,800 I was planning on plane. Let me well, I might have it confused 101 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:09,680 with another song. Let me look at these lyrics again. Um, maybe, 102 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:13,120 oh, maybe I might be thinking of a different song because these these 103 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,519 look all right, see this the thing is like, I don't I don't 104 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,079 really drop a lot of like F bombs anything like that. Yeah, that's 105 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,120 true. It's innuendo and yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing. 106 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,519 It's like innuendo and oh kind of having some you know, yeah, you 107 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,240 know what. Actually I might have been thinking of a different song. I 108 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,559 mean this one there's a line in here, and that's really funny. But 109 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:37,600 I think it's actually fine. I don't I don't see what the problem would 110 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,519 be. Yeah. See, yeah, I'm glad I looked at it because 111 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,279 you're right, this one's okay, it's funny. I see now I actually 112 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,519 want to hear it. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's yeah, that's 113 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:50,480 that was That was gonna be like one of my one of my clothing. 114 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,519 I'm like, oh, we don't pull that one over from under me? 115 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,879 All right? Good good? Yeah, great, Yeah, yeah, okay, 116 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,440 um, well, in the meantime, so it sounds like you want 117 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,960 to say that one for later though. So in the meantime, do you 118 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,080 want to play? You want to play something else? You know what I 119 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:07,159 mean? We can yeah, let me play something else. Okay, let 120 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:11,840 me play something else first, all right. And if you're just joining us, 121 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:13,879 Andy Klesnski is here with us in studio. All right, whenever you're 122 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:16,360 ready, sir. Sure, this one's called We can take our time. 123 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:35,919 This is a newer one. This isn't on a record. Nice dun doy, 124 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:50,919 you can know it, Jane, you mind babyingyy dulling week and take 125 00:09:52,840 --> 00:10:01,919 time. Try to meet the world face to face. They always look at 126 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:09,559 me so strangely, like come from out of space. But I'm not the 127 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:16,240 only one who feels out of place. We built the bath of pain, 128 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:22,600 doing the fudge. It takes like I I was in the rain, Boober. 129 00:10:22,759 --> 00:10:30,679 Never break what is lost and what remains one and the same. You 130 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:46,799 choose as to make dunly dooy, you can always change you mind. They 131 00:10:48,120 --> 00:11:01,840 and he who dolling week can't take time? Who tell on me? Is 132 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:13,440 the song? And I can say to change you mind? You can't think 133 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:24,200 it over and dunk and night hard to find. We can take our time 134 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,720 wear in the world. Will we go when it seems the world just doesn't 135 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:48,840 want or even wants to know. I'm not the only place. We liveing, 136 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:58,279 live and grow. We'll win event disdaining any inform takes Like I was 137 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:03,519 in the rain, Booby, never break. You don't have to go with 138 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:15,639 all on your own. You can believe then your night alone, dullly doy, 139 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:31,480 you can always change you mind being and you dull and we can't take 140 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:43,840 time. Oh dall me use this song and I can say to change you 141 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:58,720 mind. You can't think it over, dull and night hard to find. 142 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:09,399 We can take all time, we can take on, we can take all 143 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:26,320 time. We can take all time. Very nice, Thank you, very 144 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:30,600 nice. Andy Klesnski is here with us live in studio. Here's our new 145 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:33,399 name in the chat room. Might be a fan of yours. Tony Santess 146 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:39,159 santissbook friends. Yeah very good, Yeah yeah, he joins us in there, 147 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,240 and Archer Flight says uh tell Andy k we say, keep up the 148 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:48,000 good work. Excellent and you and Mike from Queen's City Cabinetry says I really 149 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,519 like that one. Yeah, me too. Can you tell us a little 150 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:54,919 bit about influences Andy, I'm I'm hearing some different things in there, but 151 00:13:56,399 --> 00:14:01,000 oh that song was kind of like a seventies Motown inspired sort of thing. 152 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Yeah. Yeah. It started off me like kind of trying to write a 153 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:05,840 Jackson five song, like yeah, you know, like you know, maybe 154 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:11,960 Tomorrow or something something like that. Okay, um, yeah, but it's 155 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,799 a little this is the thing. It's like, so I listened back to 156 00:14:13,919 --> 00:14:16,240 and I'll like go, okay, well, let's listen to Jackson like that 157 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,720 kind of air of Jackson five and to go back and it never can say 158 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:22,240 goodbye, and that's like tight, clean composition, like that's very Yeah. 159 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:24,840 I got like a ton of chords in the year and stuff, so yeah, 160 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:28,639 yeah, I have a hard time not not playing a million chords. 161 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:31,080 But yeah, I start playing seventh chords and it just it just goes and 162 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:37,200 goes. Yeah. Yeah. Do you always are you always a solo act? 163 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:39,320 Do you ever play with other musicians at this point? Yeah, I'm 164 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:45,320 pretty much always a solo act. Um. Yeah, just getting hooking up 165 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,799 with musicians, being able to put in you know, the time to get 166 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:52,879 things tight and get things where they need to be, because my stuff's not 167 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,639 you know, it's not it's not virtuosic. You don't have to be remember 168 00:14:56,679 --> 00:15:00,200 Frank Zappa's band to play it, but it's you know, it's it's not 169 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:03,440 exactly easy either, so right, right, I don't want to make sure 170 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,559 that everything's nailed down well, like you were saying too, you know, 171 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,559 you've got a lot of chords in there, and uh, yeah you've played 172 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,879 in bands before though, I would assume, right, or yeah, a 173 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:13,679 little bit here and there. Yeah, yeah, do you ever, um, 174 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:16,759 do you ever think about putting a band together to play this? Yeah? 175 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:20,080 Periodically? Yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, it's about about 176 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,480 getting the pieces to come together. Yeah. Um, gets trickier the further 177 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:31,000 away you get from you know, twenty twenty three, so yeah, you 178 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,279 know, yeah, but I'm definitely open to it. And um, looking 179 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:39,480 looking a little harder than I had been before. Really okay? Interesting? 180 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,279 Um, and you live in is it the Seacoast area where you live? 181 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:46,759 Yeah, I'm over writing right, technically I'm in Madbury, so I'm okay, 182 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:50,440 yeah, write in between Dover and Durham. Okay, Yeah, I 183 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:54,600 was commenting on the show earlier my dad who um, you know, obviously 184 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,519 he's an older guy, but he's um, he's very into new music, 185 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:00,320 like he listens to wu in h. He lives out there. He lives 186 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,600 in Dover. Yeah, and um, you know he has gone out to 187 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:07,039 see some some live music. So I was commenting, he'll probably text me 188 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:10,240 later. I was commenting earlier on the show. He might have seen you 189 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:14,639 live at some point or just seen you around the scene because he's he pays, 190 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,039 he pays a lot of attention. But um, yeah, if he 191 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:19,799 I mean, if he frequents any open mic nights that all he's there's a 192 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,080 good good chance that he's definitely seen me. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. 193 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:26,639 Yeah. And this there's a lot of great talent from that area. 194 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,480 I've always really thought that, you know, the music scene around there, 195 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,240 and there's some good places to play too. Where do you, um, 196 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:36,440 where do you play? Do do mostly open mics or do you ever do? 197 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:38,000 Uh? At this point, I'm doing a lot open mics. Um. 198 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:41,200 Starting to play some more shows now, actually got one coming up this 199 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,000 Saturday, oh High Fi Brewing. Yeah, I'm opening for a band called 200 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:48,200 Marvel Prone. Yes, we've had them on the show. Yeah, yeah, 201 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:52,159 that might actually that might be. Yeah, we got connected with you 202 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,600 Madison. Oh yes, yes, Madison Rousseau. Yeah, absolutely excellent, 203 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:57,519 excellent. So you're gonna be opening for them? That's cool? Yeah, 204 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:00,360 oh yeah, it should be should be fun. We good time. Um 205 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:04,079 do you, um, do you often get to do that where you obviously 206 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:07,920 you know you're you're doing the solo thing, but do you have a lot 207 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,400 of Does I come up a lot where you get to open for a full 208 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,200 band or or do you often play That's how I used to do it, 209 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,000 to be honest with you, Yeah, that's how I, um, you 210 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:18,839 know, I would get some shows here and there, kind of sporadically. 211 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,680 Yea. Um, but a lot of places they're looking to book a band, 212 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:23,680 looking to book somebody with some with a rhythm section, right, Um, 213 00:17:25,519 --> 00:17:27,400 So a lot of times what I would be doing is I would be 214 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,839 opening for other musicians, for other other acts, and um, yeah, 215 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,359 there were a number of them. Uh you know eight seven, eight, 216 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,960 ten years ago that I was doing that with Oh okay, and I kind 217 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,480 of I kind of left the scene a little bit, yeah, twenty eighteen 218 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:47,319 Ishka nineteen, Yeah, I wasn't really doing very much of anything. Yeah. 219 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:48,880 Yeah, now I'm now I'm getting back out again. So yeah, 220 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,319 yeah, a lot of fun and um, when you record. We were 221 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,160 talking earlier about the the RPM challenge, Where do you record? Do you 222 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,279 just do you do everything at home? And do you do do you do 223 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,400 that yourself? Or Yeah, that's where I was doing all my stuff. 224 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,000 I've got a little stand alone it's called a Korg D eight eighty eight. 225 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,079 It's a little stand alone. It's a digital, yeah, a recorder, 226 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,279 but it's not a dot. It's not using a computer. Um, just 227 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,279 a hard drive, an internal hard drive and uh and I've been using that 228 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,839 since two thousand and seven, no kidding, the same the same machine things 229 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,359 on its last legs. Yeah. I just bought a task Gam twenty four 230 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,039 track oh wow, less than a year ago. It's it's a similar situation. 231 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:30,720 So the idea is that I'm gonna move over to this other one that's 232 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:33,920 got more tracks available. Then I'm gonna do all the basic tracking and then 233 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,200 send it along to somebody who can collaborate and make it, yeah, make 234 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,240 it better. Yeah, that's cool though that you know, I mean, 235 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:45,359 if it still works, I mean, that's that's great and You've obviously gotten 236 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,759 a lot of mileage out of out of that cord. That's pretty cool, 237 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:52,960 an awful lot. That's great. Well you want to you want to play 238 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,519 another song? Yeah, yeah, I think I'll do that. I'd like 239 00:18:55,599 --> 00:19:00,279 to hear more. And uh so this next one is is a newer one 240 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,279 as well. I don't have this one, um there. There are a 241 00:19:03,319 --> 00:19:07,440 bunch of songs that I've been playing out now. Yeah. The most of 242 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:11,160 my life set is stuff that I don't have on record yet. Okay, 243 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:15,400 so this one is called U called Dancing while You're Burning Alive? Do you 244 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,920 mind if I do this without the cans? Is that? Oh no, 245 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:21,559 that's fine. Yeah, whatever works for you. I'll make sure that I'm 246 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,680 up here on the mic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no worries. 247 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:34,960 All right. I'm a man of the world, but the world too small. 248 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:41,480 Walk ride up the bruising image and dare myself the fall, jump right 249 00:19:41,599 --> 00:19:45,480 into the ocean, looking for my depth. Settled in a in a border 250 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:49,400 town, on the edge of lifing and depth, got that divine execution. 251 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,079 I'd wear a bolt to lightning out so I can practice on my elocution. 252 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:03,000 But you ain't gonna know who what I'm talking about. If I can't find 253 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:12,519 some solution, i am I ever to survive? It's a board on conclusion, 254 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:38,000 like dancing nobody burning alive, ain't afraid of no man in black going 255 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:42,839 around and taking knee signed mine on a tighted line with a puckered, curbing 256 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,279 lip stixteen is my brain is a bubble and toldan just blew with the dash 257 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,400 point. Ain't ready to come down yet? Get him halfway from my last 258 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:59,000 point art of mine electricution. I'd wear them both to lightening out so I 259 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,640 can practice on my elocution. But you ain't gonna know what I'm talking about. 260 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:11,920 If I can't find some solution, how am I ever to survive? 261 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:23,119 It's full one conclusion, like dancing a while you're burning alive. Yeah, 262 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,799 you're getting shimmy beneath my feet for my legs. Ain't gonna quit. I'm 263 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,519 breaking cart in the sugar glass. I'm gonna mind that, the kennels on 264 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,279 my birthday cakes, and I'm gonna live. Why I said beside to side, 265 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:48,519 and I'm anna side and fire down the mouth to side. The conflagrations 266 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:53,279 like a congregation singing the gospel because of Norang Sky I'm shedding on my skin, 267 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,839 can't nothing hold me, and I'm meling like paraffin. I gotta cut 268 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,680 off, get off, Get off. There. You're gonna know what I'm 269 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:07,480 talking about because I'm ten foot tughfullyproofing that, because James, they're gonna hanging 270 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,880 in the lou but you're still trying to build crame. I'll burn every bridge 271 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,920 to night and bos myshing a little with the flames, and I'll be huddled 272 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,799 in the rub of a walk in the morning with only myself to blame, 273 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,240 and not divine electrocutions that folds of lightning and wears me out. Said, 274 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:27,519 I can practice on my illocution, but even I don't know what I'm talking 275 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:36,920 about. Send song through the lightning, and if that storm I'm gonna arrive. 276 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,119 You can't find methending off the dirtness dancing, or while I'm burning alive. 277 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:52,279 You can't find me fending off the dirtness dancing while I'm burning alive. 278 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:08,319 And you can't find meythingding off the dirtness dancing or while I'm burning. I'm 279 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:21,440 burning, I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm 280 00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:33,519 burning. Nice You do fit a lot of chords in there. Hawf a 281 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:38,160 lot. Yeah. Tamson Churchill and the Facebook live chat says love the energy, 282 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:42,720 thank you. And we also got a message on the text line Holly 283 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,720 from Dover says, sounds great, very good, very good. Thank you, 284 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,680 Holly. Dany Klesnski is here with us live in studio. Is there 285 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,440 any kind of a story to that song? I feel like a song involving 286 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,240 being on fire and might might have a story. Yeah. Um, so 287 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,319 that was written in a style of um of a band that I that I 288 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,039 like quite a bit. There's some friends of mine and um and so I 289 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,440 I, you know, just as an exercise, I'm like, I wonder 290 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,839 if I can try to write a song like that. Yeah. So I 291 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,839 did, and uh yeah, and that's what came out. That's that's that's 292 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,359 I guess that's pretty much it. Yeah. Um, you know there's a 293 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:29,000 little bit of h Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question. It's a 294 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,680 good question. I didn't really I didn't really stop and think about it too 295 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:38,640 much. Do lyrics Do lyrics come to you easily or sometimes sometimes not? 296 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,599 Yeah, more often than not, they don't, really, Um yeah, 297 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,839 yeah, it's it's the melodies, the melodies and chords come easy. Yeah. 298 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,960 Um. Yeah. The last part is the lyrics, getting those to 299 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,680 fit. I like to try to fit them, especially because I get kind 300 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,319 of particular about melody these days, So I like try to fit them neatly 301 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,279 over the melodies so that the accents of the words are going to with the 302 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,799 accents of the melody. You don't have those two two things fighting gotcha? 303 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:07,359 Gotcha? Um has your style changed it all over the years and or in 304 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,839 terms of how you how you approach it and what the songs are like, 305 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,880 Oh yeah, very much so. Um. So early on, I was 306 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,559 trying to do stuff like Frank Zappa Captain Beefheart. I was trying to do 307 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,759 stuff that was that was pretty off the wall. Yeah. Um. You 308 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,359 know there was a bit of like a bit of musicianship going on there too, 309 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,240 with like trying to you know, compose stuff a little bit more. 310 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:36,400 Um. I kind of settled in after a while, um, doing like 311 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,759 a singer songwriter thing, mostly out of convenience, to be honest, um, 312 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,599 because it's just me and the guitar. Yeah. So that's um, 313 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:48,359 It's it's just a lot easier. It's a lot easier to get out and 314 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,680 perform your stuff to play. You know, I was playing open mics a 315 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,960 bunch, and I was trying to adapt these songs that I had overdubbed, 316 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,119 all these guitar lines and bass lines and stuff. Thankfully I didn't do too 317 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,799 much percussion, so you didn't. You weren't missing too much. You're missing 318 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:04,880 a little bit of a you know, a cohone and some moroccas. That 319 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,559 was about it right recording. But yeah, it gets tough to kind of 320 00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:11,920 balance all those elements. So yeah, just at a at a convenience, 321 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,480 I started writing the singer songwriter. Now, now I guess I'm that guy. 322 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,920 Did you ever do the looping thing live or anything like that? Never 323 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,519 did that? Um, To be honest, that's a terrifying it's a terrifying 324 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:27,559 proposition for me, just because there's so many things that can go wrong. 325 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,680 You're tapping the thing like that, that learning curve. A guy named Tim 326 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:34,839 Bear, Um do I see at the open mic nights? Shout out to 327 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,119 Tim Baar tim Bear music. He Uh he does looping stuff. Yeah, 328 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,400 you got called him loops. He's just he's that guy and he's and he's 329 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,599 got it down. He's got it down. Here he does a real good 330 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,480 job with it. Yeah. The other thing too, is about looping stuff. 331 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Um. For me, like when I write songs, I'm they're always 332 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:57,400 changing a little bit. Stuff's always shifting around. And if I have like 333 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,799 a chord progression, that's kind of going around and around. Um. I 334 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,279 just like to dart and change directions so often, so I can't commit to 335 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,039 like a four or eight bar sort of thing very often. I got you. 336 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:12,759 Um, So that's that's the other thing too, is that you know, 337 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,640 as just compositionally like sitting down going all right, well, maybe I 338 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,920 take the hit, learn how to deal with the loops and you know, 339 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,559 and you know, loop something and then play over it. Um. Yeah, 340 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,279 yeah, yeah, it's I don't know, it's still not out of 341 00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:32,599 the question, I guess. Yeah, No, that makes sense what you're 342 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:34,160 saying though. It's it's it's kind of like when a band plays to a 343 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,440 click track. Yeah, you know, like like especially big arena bands who 344 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:41,880 you know, they've got a lot of special effects and whatnot, so they 345 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,960 have to play to a click track and they have to you know, can't 346 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,599 I can't change anything on the fly, can't you know, maybe add an 347 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,039 extra chorus at the end of the song or anything that. You know, 348 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,160 they have to stick with exactly what they have because of that click track and 349 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,880 they have to you know, they have to stay committed to it. And 350 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,799 I guess with the looping it it's kind of a similar thing, right where 351 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,200 you know, once you do that, you have to commit to it. 352 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,359 Or because there's there's I mean, I guess in theory, maybe you could 353 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,839 change change it on the fly, even with looping things, but there is 354 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:14,960 a lot that can go wrong. Yeah, yeah, and I guess too, 355 00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,119 Yeah you can undo loops and redo loops or something. Yeah, but 356 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,440 if you're layering a lot of stuff, but yeah, that'd be it seems 357 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,839 straight. You know who who else is great too? I don't know if 358 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:26,720 you've ever heard of her two Yards. Have you ever heard of that artist? 359 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,880 I don't think so. She does. I think she's originally out of 360 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,440 mass Um, but uh yeah, her name is Meryl Garbas and she does 361 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:41,079 these amazing things with loops. Um makes these great records and when you see 362 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:45,559 her live, like the way she delivers that and everything just lines up, 363 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,839 everything is like and she's building it like she'll build it there in front of 364 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,640 this was the thing with a loop thing is that you start it and you 365 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,200 build it up in front of everybody, and that's kind of like, yeah, 366 00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:57,079 you know, part part of the secret sauce. Yeah, um and 367 00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,759 uh and yeah she would do that. But everything it's just right on. 368 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,799 It's almost like you might as well be on a click, like a really 369 00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,880 grooving click track, but like just how well it's like she's able to lock 370 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,720 that in and change stuff on the floor. Yeah, right right, Yeah, 371 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,519 Yeah, she's unbelievable. I saw that. She's almost like a virtuos 372 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,119 Oh no kidding. Yeah, yeah, some people get really adapt at at 373 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,440 pulling that off. But yeah, I must take a while to really cut 374 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:29,359 that down at So do any of those songs that you did early on where 375 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,160 you would have to kind of adapt them for the live performance, did any 376 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,839 of those survived? You do play any of those now or or did you 377 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,559 give those up? I haven't played too many of them. A lot of 378 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,240 them did survive. Um, they were quite I mean I say a lot 379 00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,559 of them. I guess it was a relatively small percentage, but a good 380 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,200 number. Yeah, I've I've got a couple that I still play. I've 381 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,759 got a couple that I'm going to be playing pretty recent, pretty you know, 382 00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:00,599 upcoming um pretty soon. Yeah. So there are a couple of yeah, 383 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,440 a couple of those that that there am dusting them off right now. 384 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,000 I've been so focused on playing the newer stuff. Yeah, that you must 385 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,480 do you know how many songs you've recorded, because it sounds like you've recorded 386 00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:15,279 a lot with all the RPM challenges and recorded. I mean, yeah, 387 00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:22,079 I don't know one hundred two hundred, so this just recorded. I mean 388 00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:26,559 I've been writing songs since it was eleven. Yeah. Yeah, you've bits 389 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,759 and pieces of stuff lying around all over. Yeah. Do you still remember 390 00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:33,559 the first song you ever wrote? Not? Well? Yeah, well I 391 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,079 think mercifully not well. I get it wasn't very good. I don't. 392 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:40,279 I don't think to ask everybody that, but I get I get very different 393 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:41,400 answers. Some people will tell me, oh, yeah, I remember everything 394 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,880 about it. I don't remember who it was. But I had one guest 395 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,559 who told me, yeah, I actually still play the first song I ever 396 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,160 wrote. It's like, wow, yeah, when did they start writing? 397 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,279 If that's the case, Like, I guess I wrote it when they were 398 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,720 like, you know, eighteen or twenty two, or something. Yeah, 399 00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:00,240 it wouldn't wouldn't be too cringe, but if you're eleven, I mean, 400 00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,759 I it's funny. I you know, I'm a musician. I'm not active 401 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,400 in that at the moment. But I remember, I actually remember some of 402 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,519 the first songs I ever wrote. I thought I was a really good lyricist 403 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,599 when I was really young, and I and I also remember finding those songs. 404 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,680 I thought I was a very I thought I was and then I remember 405 00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:25,720 finding those songs years later, and I and I remember ripping them up and 406 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,440 throwing them out because I didn't want anyone ever see them. Yeah, yeah, 407 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,920 yeah, yeah, that's that's a mood. Yeah. I was like, 408 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,799 I mean, there's nobody else in the room, and yet I'm looking 409 00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:38,920 at these papers and I'm like, wow, that's really embarrassing. Yep. 410 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,240 You know, like like like John bon Jovi but with severe head trauma. 411 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,119 You know, like these are horrible lyrics. But uh oh boy, yeah 412 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,359 yeah, I mean you got to start someone, right, Yeah, exactly, 413 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:55,799 exactly. Um, well, let's uh, I'd love to hear another 414 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,400 song. If you want to play something, yeah, yeah, I think 415 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,400 I want to do that, all right. Awesome, if you're just joining 416 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:06,200 us. By the way, Andy Klazynski is here with us in studio and 417 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,799 he is playing live and we're talking and we're having a great time. This 418 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,200 next song is called used White. Sob oh, all right, I'm ready 419 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:21,599 sorry, pardon me, yeah, I go, oh yeah, No worries 420 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:52,359 staying dude, thing TV, dinner or dube, and stayly clear. Look 421 00:32:52,400 --> 00:33:00,440 in the mirror, see who's staying in there morning each thin gray strains of 422 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:14,599 hair. I've no illusions about true romance infatuation at a pasting glance. All 423 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:22,359 I'm hoping for is one more chance, dying mind beard for the sameingle stands. 424 00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:28,119 And if all else fails, I'm gonna wrap a roller quarters in the 425 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,000 tube side stop it down the front of my pangs. I'm punching out of 426 00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:37,519 my weight class tonight, and I ain't leaving the finger chance rap the mortar. 427 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:42,200 Oh, I'll be cruising the streets, so you know, oh oh, 428 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:47,759 I ain't no stretched limousine, No, honey, I'm gonna used by 429 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,319 sip something you can drive and do the ground with dignity. Time the one 430 00:33:53,839 --> 00:34:00,720 job. Reach into your jacket pocket of a piston full of fire, Lock 431 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:06,440 me up and fog up my windows. Turn up the god dance stereo. 432 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:15,559 We're on most stereo, and Nah is playing back on the market end of 433 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:25,800 my brand cologne on the dresser for ru Wan nightstand lotion on the nightstanding my 434 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:35,519 cod right hand. Maybe the bar scene on who week and nine, or 435 00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:45,239 an algorithm on a dateing sign by the candle of my phones blue light finger 436 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:54,400 reluctingly swiping. Rime and severus will be going at each other in the darkness, 437 00:34:55,079 --> 00:35:00,000 stumbling out of a pagance. I'll paple the inks and the dinner, 438 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:07,159 but I ain't fighting heartbreaking it dance maserati, always peeling away in the pale 439 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:15,119 morning, like with your hearts, ghastly. Take a flyer on a use 440 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:21,440 my time something you can drive and do the ground with dignity time, loubo 441 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:28,599 the job, reaching your jacket pocket'b a biston full of farm, Lock 442 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,119 me up and fog up my windows. Turn up the god damn stair. 443 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:40,400 We're on most Fairier. Oh, I'm gonna use my time something you can 444 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:46,679 drive into the ground with dignity time the unbow the job. Can you jacket 445 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,800 pocket of a biston full of farm, Lock me up and fog up my 446 00:35:52,960 --> 00:36:13,079 windows, turn up the god damn stair We're on most dairril oh nice used 447 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:17,199 wide sob from Andy Klesnski. Here in the Facebook latch at, Jenny says 448 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,679 he's so much fun. I love it and uh Holly A Furlan says, 449 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:30,480 clap clap. That name is Familiarshi a musician yeah from uh oh yeah, 450 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:34,920 yeah, yeah, I think I think I've met her through Uh No, 451 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,800 I can't remember his name anyway, it doesn't matter. I see you meet 452 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,039 so many people in the scene, you know how it is. Yeah, 453 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,119 yeah, but I think I've met Holly before. Um oh, I met 454 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:49,760 her the Earthiegel Uh Earthiegel North Open Mic in Summer's Worth. Oh okay, 455 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,360 yep yep, uh Barb Barton Feeler says love it and j Fed really oh, 456 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,519 j Fed really likes that as well. Oh and Ryan Walters is in 457 00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:04,679 the spook lap chatt and says all second the clap clap beautiful, thank you, 458 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,800 and we have a call. We'll grab this. I think this might 459 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,280 be our friend Charles from Florida. Charles, is that you? Yeah, 460 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,679 it's me. I want to ask him, is how how hard is it 461 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,280 to write a song? Do you do these things come to you like en 462 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,239 like fifteen twenty minutes, or do you spend like days at a time or 463 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,639 weeks at a time trying to compose the song and get everything written together lyrics 464 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:36,280 first, or do you do tunes first. So sometimes it thinks incredibly easy 465 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,360 to write songs to the point where they just keep flowing and they don't stop, 466 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,920 and it almost becomes a problem in your life. At least for me. 467 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,119 That's sort of a dancing while you're burning alive kind of situation. Other 468 00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:52,880 times it's incredibly difficult to write them, especially when you're trying to complete them. 469 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,599 I guess I wish I had. So it's not an original answer, 470 00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:00,119 but I think it's a fitting answer. Um anywhere from fifteen minutes of fifteen 471 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:06,440 years, it can take an awful long time to write songs. As far 472 00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:10,440 as words first versus music, it's almost always music. For a while, 473 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:15,119 I was writing melodies first, so I would always have tunes that I was 474 00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:16,760 turning around in my head. So even before I put my hands on a 475 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,280 guitar or anything else, it was a tune that I was working on. 476 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,639 But mostly mostly now I'm sitting down with a guitar I'm playing around, I'm 477 00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,480 finding chord changes that I like, and yeah, and then following yeah, 478 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:34,320 you know, coming up with the melody. Yeah, those things can feed 479 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,599 each other. Oh, thank you so much, appreciate it. Very good. 480 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,400 Yeah, just curiosity on the ones that came with you instantaneously. Has 481 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:49,519 that been one of the ones you played today? Great question? Dancing while 482 00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,480 You're burning alive? Came pretty fast? Yeah, that came. Yeah, 483 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:57,320 it's a bunch of words and everything. That came pretty fast because it was 484 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,320 it was so freeing because I was writing other kinds of music and you know, 485 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,119 stuffitely it gets, it gets kind of baroque after a while. A 486 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,800 lot of chords, a lot of melodies, a lot of range, and 487 00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:08,880 yeah, and you're you're writing these words and you're trying to make them fit 488 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,000 over something, and then you do something that's kind of a straightforward rock and 489 00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,360 roll thing. The cadence is a lot easier that, like, everybody kind 490 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,960 of has written in that cade. Not everybody, but a lot of people 491 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,519 have written that. Caden's going all the way back to old country music, 492 00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:23,039 So you can just kind of fall into it and then the words just kind 493 00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:27,960 of float, even if they're not very obvious words like you can just fit 494 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,320 more words in there because it's just it's an easier kind of form to write 495 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:37,880 in, I find. But as far as those go, I DA man 496 00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:42,559 came kind of. That came pretty quick as well. That came together. 497 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,519 That was a few days still, you know, because you write down lyrics 498 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,719 and you'll get like an idea, you'll get some sketched lyrics or whatever. 499 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,800 You get a verse, but you won't get the rest of it, or 500 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,920 you get the chorus, but you don't get anything else. And if you 501 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,480 don't jump on that quick, then you just have a chorus and you're sitting 502 00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:00,400 on that for four years. Yeah, so I guess those two came pretty 503 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:06,320 quick. Um. Yeah, the other stuff was a little bit labored. 504 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,400 How long? Um, when did you first pick up a guitar? Like? 505 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,360 Are you self taught or did you take lessons? How did you get 506 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,639 to be so crafty with with an instrument? Oh? Thank you? Um? 507 00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:28,119 So I was fortunate enough to um to both have access to um uh 508 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,199 you know, lessons. Um. You know, my folks could afford to 509 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,079 give me to get me lessons and stuff. Uh. And I also had 510 00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,239 an older brother who had a guitar, So there was always a guitar kind 511 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,119 of around the house, at least starting I don't know, I think he 512 00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:44,039 had on the fourteens. That would be like I don't know, seven or 513 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,280 eight or something. Yeah, yeah, so I mean, I mean going 514 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,480 all the way back, like I mean, there are pictures of me, 515 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,519 like standing in front of a television in diapers, like holding a tennis racket 516 00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:58,559 backward like a guitar would. I would watch MTV like as yeah, old 517 00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,320 enough to stand holding the tennis racket as a guitar, so like it was 518 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,519 always kind of there. But a tennis racket is very very far from a 519 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:07,920 stratocaster, so like you still have to learn a bunch of skills and stuff. 520 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,800 And I that was I've been doing a car hero a part of your 521 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,159 learning product. Absolutely not, absolutely not, No, I am off with 522 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,840 that. I'm still off of them because I tend to I tend to sit 523 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,559 behind the beatum and if you get something that's a little bit quick and you're 524 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,880 behind the beat, and you're because you're not supposed to be on there. 525 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,519 You're supposed to be exactly on the beat when you're playing guitar het because it's 526 00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,639 a video game. It's bac man, it's not right, it's not You're 527 00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:36,960 not playing in a band, right, so yeah, endless source of frustration. 528 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,440 Yeah, no, none of that. UM is just an acoustic guitar 529 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,079 and some black sabbath, some black yeah nice, some black sabbath. Some 530 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,559 Michael Jackson couldn't figure out how to make the two meat until yeah, I 531 00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:52,800 don't know. Very cool. All right, well I'll let you too get 532 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,280 back to it. Thank you very much. All right, awesome, appreciate 533 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,679 the call. Thank you, than give you the question. All right, 534 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,760 very good. By the way, Holly says in the tram, Yeah, 535 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,599 I thought, yes, Jim Tarrell uh introduced us. I do remember, 536 00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:09,280 now, Holly. She said, Uh, yes, Jim Tarrell was recording 537 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,039 a show with you and I swung by to check it out. Long time 538 00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:15,079 ago. Yeah, that was a long time ago, but I do remember. 539 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:21,119 I do remember that now. Yes, Melanie had some questions about the 540 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:27,480 lyrics for in uh in that that that song used white SOB. But the 541 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:32,039 questions are I think, well, we'll leave those speaks. But that song, 542 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,000 that song does make me laugh. That that's a lot of fun. 543 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,400 Yeah, mission accomplished. Yeah, Yeah, that was based that was kind 544 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:44,440 of a like a yacht rock pastiche. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of 545 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,280 supposed to have that sort of doobie bounce. Yeah, a little bit of 546 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,960 a little bit of Mike McDonald there. Oh yeah, yeah, I like 547 00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:53,119 it. Boy, his name comes up a lot on the show recently. 548 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:59,400 I'll be done. We got the Michael McDonald's shirt. Yeah. Oh that's 549 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,400 so cool. Fulton of Smooth Baby. Yeah, yeah, I don't I 550 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,000 don't know if you know this, but so David Crosby before he died. 551 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,159 It might have been the last interview he did. He was on the Howard 552 00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:15,639 Stern Show, and um, he said during that interview that and I guess 553 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:22,320 they were very close friends to uh uh Crosby and Michael McDonald. But he 554 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,199 said that, um, he believed that Michael McDonald was currently the best male 555 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,920 singer in the entire United States, but nobody could sing better than Michael McDonald 556 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,320 in his opinion. Yeah, I mean at this in this date. Yeah, 557 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,519 this was well, this would have been within the last year. But 558 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:43,000 when he but when he said it, he was speaking at the present time. 559 00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:45,599 He said, Michael McDonald's Michael McDonald is the best male singer in the 560 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,320 entire country. Um. I mean, granted he's biased because they're very good 561 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,480 friends too. I think Michael McDonald is on doing some backing vocals on the 562 00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:59,119 last album that David Crosby I did backing vocals like Nobody's Business. Oh yeah, 563 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,440 the Steely Dan Records. Yeah, and then well it was so much 564 00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:07,360 so that you if you listen to other like kind of soft rock or goat 565 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,360 rock tunes from that, like late seventies, early eighties, there are a 566 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,679 bunch of them that have guys, Yeah, it's not Michael McDonald. They're 567 00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:16,679 just trying to sound like Michael McDonald. They're like Michael McDonald clones, right 568 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,280 right, Yeah, Um, I find I found over the years to this 569 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,000 day, some people don't realize that. I like to use the example of 570 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,519 the Christopher Cross song ride like the Wind, Yeah, and a lot of 571 00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,199 people don't even realize it. Yeah, the deep voice on that, that's 572 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,599 Michael McDonald A long way to Go. Yeah, I can't do there. 573 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,000 You sounded like him. Just now. When you did that, you really 574 00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:39,960 sounded I can't you know, I can't sound like him. You want to 575 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,639 do that one more time? That sounded really good? Do you sound like. 576 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,840 It's an easy one to it's kind of I mean, if you got 577 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,559 like if you got the tenor thing. Yeah, it's it's yeah. He 578 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,360 I don't do impressions very well, but that's one that you just kind of 579 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,039 you but put one finger in your ear like you're like you're recording something like 580 00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:04,719 the one hand on. That's awesome. So you do sound like him. 581 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,800 Yeah, I'm not gonna try to do anymore. I don't quite have those 582 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,159 high notes anymore, not today anyway. But Tampson Churchill says, says, 583 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,599 so good. I don't know if that's in reference, so the Michael McDonald 584 00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:17,559 impression or the song or both, but yeah, I think it's in reference. 585 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,239 I think it's explicitly in reference to Michael. Yeah. I just playing 586 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,159 a hunch on that one. You want to play another song? Yeah, 587 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,760 yeah, I got another one. Cool. Cool if you're just joining us. 588 00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:34,400 Andy Klesinski is here in studio with us. So this one's a newer 589 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,599 one. I don't have this on our record yet. Cool. That last 590 00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:43,679 one used white sab that's on that record, I NFP. Yeah, it's 591 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,800 the one of the kind of the dark cover. It's just my face on 592 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,400 it. Yeah, um, I think the other one's a dark cover with 593 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,360 my face on too, that it's not really narrowing it down one that the 594 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,760 one that doesn't have the jar babies. And if you have to ask and 595 00:45:52,760 --> 00:46:00,800 then check it out, all right, here we go. It's called disco 596 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:29,800 tech of one. Cocaine and cold champagne dying in the more Miami sun might 597 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:37,719 as well be pouring rain and dancing in my disco tech up one. I'm 598 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:43,440 spending on Ruller skates, but my heart's about to break it. I'm crying 599 00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:49,519 ryan stone tears like chandeliers on down my face. My mirror bald eyes shimmered. 600 00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:59,440 Even when I'm not alway disco tech discontent, I'm too busy crying to 601 00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:07,800 help one agitations what you meant, baby, I'm a disco deck up one. 602 00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,440 I'm working to earn my living. Hardly any livings get in done. 603 00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:25,119 So if I'm making with there, you giving living in my disco deckup one. 604 00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:43,360 Tired of the tired like inspiration, calmed with me on high, luv 605 00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:46,400 me take me high, you baby, like a fall of fire across the 606 00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:55,119 sky, all those spirling lights and colors, cursing to my ros and cones, 607 00:47:55,519 --> 00:48:00,039 all the fights of fear and fancy fall and out the microphone on, 608 00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:09,559 all those aspirations, aspirating in a hotel room along disco tech disk in. 609 00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:20,320 Tell I'm too busy crying to have fun agitations. What you meant, BB, 610 00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:28,360 I'm a disco tech up one. I'm working to earn my living, 611 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:36,679 but hardly any livings get in done. So if I'm making with the eat 612 00:48:36,719 --> 00:49:16,320 giving living in my disco tech up one, whoopings private planes? Never was 613 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:24,719 the light buppy, all that cocaine coursing through your veins, flying high and 614 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:32,079 headed for the trees. Look out, my feet are on the ground getting 615 00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:37,960 the round. The empty dance floor shimmers pools of tears and scattered like setting 616 00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:44,360 sun reflecting off my mirror ball eyes. My boogie night is just be gone. 617 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:52,719 Dancing in my disco tech up one, dancing in my disco tech up 618 00:49:52,840 --> 00:50:00,159 one, dancing in my disco tech up one, dancing in my disco DICKO. 619 00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:12,119 Nice, I love that, Thank you, I love that. That 620 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,800 is really really good. Uh Andy Klocenski is here with us a live in 621 00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:20,519 studio. Hey, before we run out of time, I want to make 622 00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:23,960 sure that people know where to find you online, especially where people might some 623 00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:28,519 people might struggle with spelling your last name. Yeah, they don't know. 624 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,719 Yeah, yeah, I mean three three syllables. Three three were letters per 625 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,159 syllable, all phonetic, but it's it's a weird string of phonemes, right, 626 00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:39,639 and so it's Andy Kloucenski k l o s is and Samuel E. 627 00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:45,519 N is in nitrogen s is in Samuel ki Kloucenski uh dot com. Andy 628 00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:50,119 Klosnski. Yes, you got a brand new website. I saw that it 629 00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:52,599 looks new. Uh, it's pretty new. Yeah. Yeah, Oh Joy 630 00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:57,400 Duran joins us in the Facebook live chat. Hello, Joy, you want 631 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,880 to sneak one more in? We got we got time for for one more? 632 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:07,639 If you want? Good question? Probably aren't you shouldn't die? Yeah? 633 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,599 Sees a moment. I'm gonna do something off of one of my other 634 00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:16,840 albums called We're Alive. Okay, this one is called Diane all right. 635 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:38,159 Whoa, whoa, whoa. I can hear the shower running over you, 636 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:46,079 dying, steam all around you like a crime. Whoa hot nights, moonlight 637 00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:52,920 tower around you, head, live, limbs warm, skin, climbing into 638 00:51:52,159 --> 00:52:00,000 bed, maneuvering, like poetry over me dying. Each limb stands and each 639 00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:06,920 inch, and I am bright. I find mine few tangles up your hare, 640 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,760 reach out nine times the middle of the night, but you not that 641 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:19,800 you're dying. Whoa boo the ship sweeling my hand, woo woo. But 642 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,159 I'm longing for dry let whoa o boo on. Of course I know Australia, 643 00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:34,280 and bring awake and night to understand whoa whoa that a man just ain't 644 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,760 a man. Then he's back in your rooms. Dye, yeah, yeah, 645 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:49,719 dangle of bodies and sheets. Oh the feeling of leaving your feet while 646 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:55,199 loue wayward. We're stilling, climbing so high to our heads hit the ceiling 647 00:52:55,639 --> 00:53:01,480 again. Can't let you get away? I ain't. I could have seen 648 00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:07,599 it coming from here to old shine. But every time I play, I 649 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:15,760 tip my hand, gnolling water spinning down the drain, still like bother when 650 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:23,079 only lonely SuDS remain, because I can hear the shower running lonesomesian. It's 651 00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:30,239 running far from over you. I'm dying, and cascade that made tiny view 652 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:37,840 legs down your shoulders, face necking, freckled breast, dying, whoa a 653 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:45,079 boo. The ship's wheeling my hand a whoa a whoa, But I'm longing 654 00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:52,559 for dry land. Whoa whoa? On of course I know Australia and bring 655 00:53:52,679 --> 00:54:00,559 awake and I to understand whoa whoa that a man just ain't a man him 656 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:09,519 till he's back in your wrongs die Yeah yeah, untangle of bodies and sheets, 657 00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:15,360 over the feeling of leaving your feet, my loueyward, we're stealing, 658 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:24,440 climbing so high into our heads. Hit the ceiling again. Oh one who 659 00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:44,880 dying, dying, zow me of my past beliefs. Bring your loving thank 660 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:59,440 to me. Diayah yah da yeah yeah yeah him da ya ya da. 661 00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:08,719 Oh that's off my album We're Alive. Oh that is awesome. That is 662 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,599 awesome. Thank you so much. I'm glad. I'm glad we were able 663 00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,840 to get one more in Andy Klasinski. This has been wonderful. Thank you, 664 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,119 my friend, Yes, thank you for having me like this has been 665 00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:19,000 great. Really enjoyed it.