WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:27.399 I'm surprised. I'm still alive. I am six forty. We're live everywhere 2 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.640 in the iHeartRadio apples Later with Mo Kelly the aftermath of Chateau Lei. Mo 3 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:39.200 just wanted to say we had a fabulous time. Sometimes even the Instagram videos 4 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:43.960 don't do it justice. You may not know I was doing karaoke for some 5 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:49.280 unknown reason and ill advised reason with family members until maybe three in the morning. 6 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:53.079 Do not ask me why. I just looked up and was three something, 7 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:55.280 and I said, maybe I should go to bed, Maybe I should 8 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:58.520 actually go to sleep. Why because I have worked the next day, well 9 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:02.320 actually the later that day, because it was three something in the morning. 10 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.640 Uh yeah, I'm paying for it right now. But Stefan, we got 11 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:08.519 to get you out there. Mark Ronner, we got to get you out 12 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:14.159 there next year. I was jealous, especially of the food. It sounds 13 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:17.840 like you guys had a terrific time last night. It sounded like a lot 14 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:21.159 of fun. Well I can't speak for the food because I'm partial, but 15 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:26.920 to Walla Sharp was there, a producer Kiki Keanu was there. We had 16 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:33.799 a producer Kayla who's there, producer Dana Nick Poliochini Tifony Hobfs. I'm trying 17 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:40.560 to think of all the people like Gary Oldman in the professional saying it really, 18 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:44.799 I mean, you really did bring everyone that that that night. It 19 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:48.719 was it was cool and uh I thought of you the whole time. When 20 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:53.359 I finally got home, and I mean I couldn't There's no way I could 21 00:01:53.359 --> 00:02:00.000 have gone to bed because you heard literal explosions. Did that come through? 22 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:02.359 Because I know what it sounded like when we were in the house. Oh 23 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:07.120 yeah, I was talking. I went to Mark's uh booth after in the 24 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:08.879 on when we were off, when we were a break, and I said, 25 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:12.919 I was like, dude, it just sounds like it's right outside of 26 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:16.080 his window. It was. It was it sounded like you were having the 27 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:22.639 party in Gaza last night. It was. It was really even for me 28 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.719 at times. It was disconcerting, Oh for sure, because there's there was 29 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.759 times where I was sitting there. I was just you know, going to 30 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.639 the kitchen to get a snack, and it is so loud it actually made 31 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.280 me jump. The ordinance that people are using these days is really high powered, 32 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.840 and it's not just your neighborhood. I got home last night and I 33 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:46.120 was opening the front door, and I heard something that sounded like remember the 34 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:51.879 the Moab the Mother of All bombs? That shook me. I mean like 35 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.919 I I did, like a like a three Stooges type move going into the 36 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:59.759 into the house, and I yelled something that woke everybody up in the house 37 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.159 if the bomb didn't. It's everywhere people are getting their hands on some potent 38 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:06.639 stuff. It's not an exaggeration, because I know the m eights that you 39 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:08.719 hear all the time of loud explosions. I think that's an eighth of a 40 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:13.680 stick of dynamite, I for mistake in at least. Yeah, it's can 41 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:21.360 do some serious damage to people, buildings, cars. I just like that 42 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:25.159 in my housing development. I'm not too close to the street where you're gonna 43 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:29.960 get the neighborhood fireworks. I got kind of a naive question, why is 44 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.759 that fun? What do you mean fun? What portion of it you'd mean? 45 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:37.240 What fireworks in general? Just setting off just a bomb like that. 46 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.879 I don't know. I kind of asked that question last night. I don't 47 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:43.879 know what the appeal is. I thought some of it has to do with 48 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:50.439 nostalgia, growing up, fond memories of parties, surrounding the fourth of July. 49 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:54.080 But the fireworks themselves, I don't have. I don't think I ever 50 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:59.000 had a real desire to go out and light off all sorts of fireworks. 51 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:00.599 I just was, well, they were different. I mean, they were 52 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.159 kind of like sparkly, fun, colorful things, but we're talking like just 53 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:10.439 actual weapons of war in the neighborhood. He're just full on bombs. I 54 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:14.599 don't know now. I will say last night, my son, he went 55 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:19.240 off with your blended sons and their crew outside of the property. Yeah, 56 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:25.160 out of the property, and you told everyone, you said, do not 57 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:30.959 do not do anything on this property, period. And they took you to 58 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.639 heart because they went into the hood. And my son said, Daddy, 59 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:38.920 they were like guys out there with like colors hanging out their back pockets, 60 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.519 and they were setting up stuff in the streets. He said, I see 61 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.720 what you've been telling us. But at eighteen, he said, for me, 62 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.680 that was exciting because you and mommy have never let me even touch a 63 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:54.160 firework. So he said, we got a cherry bomb and none of us 64 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:57.800 have ever been with one. They put it out on the street. They're 65 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.920 all kind of standing relatively close. What a Cherryboam was gonna do. He 66 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:04.560 said, when that thing went off, they all thought they had lost their 67 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:09.519 lives. Didn't I tell them, Didn't I tell them? Yes, you 68 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:16.160 know even some other adults. First, do not partake in that, especially 69 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:19.079 in our house and development, because they will call the police on you in 70 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:25.240 a heartbeat. And also if you do it outside the gates, you're you're 71 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.920 you're increasing the likelihood of getting harmed. Yes, for a number of reasons. 72 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:34.319 Ever, get off the boat. You know. I guess people don't 73 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:41.360 believe me because when I tell the stories on KF I be it the sounds 74 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:46.920 of the fireworks, or if I talk about what it looks like, invariably 75 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:48.120 someone will say, no, you're exaggerated. It can't be like that. 76 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:54.120 No, I'm really not. I'm really not. It is like leaving there 77 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:59.800 every street, some of the streets look like they were blocked off, because, 78 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.800 yeah, because they'll get mad at you and you have some misunderstandings if 79 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:06.480 you interrupt their illegal fireworks. Yes, and by the way, I guess 80 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:10.920 there's a thing now. I didn't know this because mo, you know where 81 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.399 I am and it doesn't give any location. But I have to take the 82 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.759 one O five East and there's that bank that comes around and you can kind 83 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:21.959 of see a little bit of like not south central, but like that back 84 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:27.000 area when you're coming around, and I thought the Google Maps was like, 85 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.600 oh, it slows down. So I was like, oh, there's an 86 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:30.720 accident. Okay, well, you know, no big deal. And there 87 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:32.879 was like four or five cars and I'm like, ooh, this is a 88 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:39.639 bad one. I keep driving. There's like fourteen cars all lined up and 89 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:43.680 I guess that's the spot now so that they want to see all the fireworks 90 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.360 of everything going on, and I'm like, all the freeway. On the 91 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.240 freeway, they literally pulled off to the side, and I'm like, all 92 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:56.079 it takes is one guy to not pay attention and they'll smash into anybody that's 93 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.480 sitting there. Like I couldn't believe that. I'm like, and I'll admit 94 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:00.560 I was driving. I'm like, Okay, that's kind of cool. I'm 95 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:05.480 not going to sit there. Look. I often say humans amaze me, 96 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:12.079 but for the most most part of the time, they just really lived down 97 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.639 to my low expectations. And why in the world would you stop on the 98 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:20.879 freeway for any other reason than an emergency number? One, And why would 99 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:26.879 you stop and have a caravan of people on the freeway so you could watch 100 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:34.240 the fireworks from home on the on the one ten the entire time up until 101 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:40.639 we got to about USC on both sides of the freeway, and I swear 102 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:45.720 even on the freeway there were fireworks both sides. I felt like it was 103 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.399 an attraction, like like back in the day we would go to say, 104 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:51.800 uh Dodger Stadium and watch you know, the firewors and Christmas lights. No, 105 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:57.399 the entire ten fireworks on both sides. I loved it. I loved 106 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:00.120 it. It was like a show within the show. But you did did 107 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.319 you stop it? Pull over? Hell? No? But but but but 108 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:09.399 on on the overpasses you could see on the people launching fireworks on the overpasses, 109 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.120 above the fire or above the freeway, which was crazy. Well, 110 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.839 I was driving home from your party, and I took the at the one 111 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.480 oh five and then to the ninety one, like six five to the ninety 112 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.560 one, and the entire time I'm driving, I felt like I was in 113 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:28.759 like a video game, like a car racing video game. At the end 114 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:35.000 of like the lap and all the fireworks. Because she left before the main 115 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:39.080 fireworks. Yes, but as I was driving the main fireworks started and it 116 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:45.559 was just fireworks overhead. We could feel the shaking and it was like whoa. 117 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.159 But But to your point, and also Mark's point, I think it 118 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:54.080 has increased in volume. I don't think it's the same as maybe five ten 119 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.080 years ago. I think there's more of an influx of fireworks and illegal fireworks. 120 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.759 Yeah, some serious ones. And by the way, is there anything 121 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.559 that makes you feel more like a primitive man than just looking up at stuff 122 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:09.080 blowing up in the sky and going like, look at that. Now, 123 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.279 I don't feel primitive. I don't. I don't, I don't. No, 124 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:13.879 it's not that deep for me. It makes me feel like the one 125 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.440 of the man Apes at the beginning of two thousand and one. To be 126 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.080 fascinated by fireworks going off. Now that's a deep cut. You assume that 127 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.759 people have seen a space obyssecene. All right, people have and some more 128 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.799 will, yeah, or remember that scene but that's the opening scene. Yeah, 129 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:33.240 yeah, and they tossed the bone and it turns into the Discovery. 130 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:37.080 Thank god? You remember? Oh look, come on now, it's me. 131 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.200 It's me you're talking to. I wasn't gone that long you're listening to 132 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.919 Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty and coming up at 133 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:54.120 eight o'clock they will have i'll say, the West Coast airing of the Biden 134 00:09:54.440 --> 00:10:00.399 Stephanopoulos interview on ABC, and for some reason, I don't don't know why 135 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.559 they didn't run it, well I know why, but you would think that 136 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.440 they would run it everywhere live. At the same time, they want to 137 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:13.120 maximize the ratings for ABC. But from a political standpoint, you put yourself 138 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.240 in a bad situation because here folks on the West Coast like me and you, 139 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.679 we get to them cherry pick pieces of the interview and if you were 140 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.279 to turn on Fox, you turn on CNN, turn on MSNBC. They're 141 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:31.440 cherry picking. And I'm going to do it myself so to be fair, 142 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.679 but they're cherry picking portions of the interview to highlight whatever they want to highlight, 143 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.120 and you lose control of the narrative. That's always important in politics, 144 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:46.000 controlling the narrative. This interview was an attempt to take back control of the 145 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:54.039 narrative surrounding the candidacy of Joe Biden, whether he is fit to continuous campaign 146 00:10:54.120 --> 00:11:00.320 whether he's fit to serve another four years. I don't know if that was 147 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:05.919 even possible, That goal was impossible to achieve, if only because the interview, 148 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.159 I think, is about twenty two minutes long, and we all saw 149 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.039 the debate which was ninety minutes long. So there's nothing I don't think that 150 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:18.759 he can do in the twenty two minutes answering a handful of questions which are 151 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.440 within a certain range of subjects that he kind of knows are coming. I'm 152 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.039 not saying they fed him the questions, but you know he's going to be 153 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.399 that he was going to be asked about the debate. They obviously were going 154 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.360 to ask him about whether he can serve the next four years. You knew 155 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.919 that they were going to ask him about whether he stays in a race, 156 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.200 whether it could hurt the Democrats down the ballot. Those are the obvious questions, 157 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.000 So he would have to know that that those were coming. Instead of 158 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.279 a presidential debate over an hour and a half, where you're less likely to 159 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.519 know exactly what types of questions you're going to be asked. You may know 160 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.879 the subject matter, but you don't know the specific questions. And I got 161 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.840 this one note from someone, and I don't know why they took it this 162 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.679 away, but when I was last talking about President Biden, this person hit 163 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:15.440 me on threads and said that I was advocating for Biden to step down. 164 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.159 No, no, no, I was never advocating that. In fact, 165 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:24.000 I was just laying out the obstacles in front of Biden, and I also 166 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:28.279 laid out the different options of the Democrats, and I was saying the Democrats 167 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:35.200 had to choose between the best of bad options to maneuver and navigate through this 168 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.000 moment. I don't think there is a good answer here. And for Star 169 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:43.639 Trek fans, and I know you would appreciate this, Mark, I would 170 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:50.200 call it the Kobayashi Maru no Way scenario. No, but I'm just saying 171 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:56.799 his candidacy is not better off today with this interview or not than before the 172 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.080 debate. Is it determinative? Does it mean that he loses the election? 173 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:07.919 Absolutely not. I'm just saying it does that debate deformance did nothing to help 174 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:13.639 his candidacy. So with all that said, here are four clips that yes, 175 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.480 I cherry picked and I wanted to use to just further this discussion. 176 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:24.600 And you know, the obvious question was whether President Biden knew during the debate 177 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.000 how poorly it was going for him. This is what he had to say. 178 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.759 I'll even put in George Stephanopolis's question, so you know exactly how it 179 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:41.080 was asked. Did you ever watch the debate afterwards? I don't think I 180 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.679 did. Know, well, I don't try. What I want to get 181 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.879 at is, what were you experiencing as you were going through the debate? 182 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:52.519 Did you know how badly it was going? Yeah? Look the whole way 183 00:13:52.639 --> 00:14:00.159 I prepared. Nobody's fault mind, nobody's fault of mind. I I prepare 184 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.080 what I usually would do, sitting down as I did, come back for 185 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:11.080 invaders or the National Security Council for explicit detail. And I realized about part 186 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:15.679 way through that. You know, I get quoted the New York Times having 187 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:20.000 me down at ten points before the debate nine now or whatever the hell it 188 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.080 is. Wait wait, wait, wait wait? Did you did you hear 189 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:28.679 that he just changed directions and started answering a different question, something that was 190 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.000 completely unasked. Listen to this again and listen how he doesn't really answer the 191 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.120 question and then starts talking about something else altogether. Did you ever watch the 192 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:43.519 debate afterwards. I don't think I didn't know, well, I don't try. 193 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.320 What I want to get at is, what were you experiencing as you 194 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:48.120 were going through the debate? Did you know how badly it was going? 195 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:54.559 Yeah? Look, long pause. The whole way I prepared nobody's fault of 196 00:14:54.600 --> 00:15:01.519 mind, nobody's fault of mind. I uh, I prepared what I usually 197 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.039 would do, sitting down as I did, come back for invaders or National 198 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:13.720 Security Council, for expressly detail. And I realized part way through that you 199 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.799 know, I could quoted The New York Times had me down at ten points 200 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.360 before the debate nine now or whatever the hell event he's gone on to something 201 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.840 else. The fact the matter is that what I looked at is that he 202 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:30.360 also lied twenty eight times. I couldn't. I mean, the way the 203 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:35.080 debate ran not my fault. No one else is full, No one else's 204 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:39.399 full. I'm not sure what I should take away from that particular answer. 205 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.440 Wasn't he trying to put it in perspective? He what I think he was 206 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.480 trying to do, and I would rather his audio stand on his own. 207 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:50.360 I think he was trying to say I was not doing as badly as people 208 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:56.679 thought, because Donald Trump lied a bunch of times, and that should be 209 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:58.279 the story. That's what I think he was trying to say. He didn't 210 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:02.679 come out that way. Yeah, it seemed that way to me, all 211 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:08.960 right. As for his being exhausted and being tired, George asked him about 212 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:12.159 it. This is the president's answer. You know, you say you were 213 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.960 exhausted, and I know you've said that before as well. But you came 214 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:18.480 and you did have a tough mind. But you came home from Europe about 215 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:23.759 eleven or twelve days before the debate, spent six days in camp. David, 216 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:27.440 why wasn't that enough rest time, enough recovery time? Because I was 217 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:30.000 sick? Can I much feeling terrible? Matter of fact, the doc's with 218 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.240 me, I asked him. They did a COVID test, But you're trying 219 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.080 to figure that was wrong. So did a test to see whether or not 220 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:41.080 I had some infection and I'm a virus. I didn't. I just had 221 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:44.320 a really bad cold. Let's take him out of his word. Let's say 222 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.840 that it was just a bad cold. But if a bad cold does that 223 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:56.039 much to debilitate him, then it's fair to wonder whether he can handle the 224 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.519 next four years. I'm just talking about fair to ask the question and fair 225 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:06.279 to wander out loud, because, honestly, and I'd like to tease Mark 226 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:11.599 Ronner, Mark Ronner is not going to be as physically fit presumably four years 227 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.720 from now. Okay, I am a god among men. I don't know 228 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:19.319 what you're talking about. I may not be, as you know, as 229 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:26.039 quick as I was four years from now. I could see your rapid deterioration 230 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.079 in real time, so I believe that. But to be serious, I 231 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:36.559 think it's fair to talk about having an honest conversation whether it's not about whether 232 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:41.480 he is sick today. It's not about whether he was sick that night. 233 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:47.559 It is about how how I don't want to work, used to work incapacitated. 234 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:49.720 But how if we take hibout his word and it's true that he just 235 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:55.720 had a bad cold. If a bad cold put him down for a number 236 00:17:55.720 --> 00:18:00.200 of weeks, then you got to have the conversation about where his hell health 237 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.240 is big picture. You think that's unfair. Why can we pick it up 238 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:04.759 on the other side of the break, and then we'll pick up on the 239 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.000 other side. It's later with Moke Kelly ca if I AM six forty. 240 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.759 We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly 241 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:17.680 on demand from KFI AM six forty. At eight o'clock Tonight will be the 242 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:23.759 West Coast airing of the President Biden George Stephanopoulos interview on ABC. It's already 243 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:27.240 aired on the East Coast, so clips are slipping out. You might even 244 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:32.519 be able to find the full interview online. And I was saying, I 245 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:36.000 thought that was a mistake, if only because when you have clips out there, 246 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:41.319 then you don't get to control the narrative and people will have digested the 247 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.960 interview before the West Coast had seen it. And I'm actually, you know, 248 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.799 proving that point by playing clips from the interview. Also before the break, 249 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:56.400 I played one of the questions and answers about his jet lag, his 250 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.839 supposed jet lag. George had asked him, you know you were back after 251 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.400 a certain amount of time. Why did you need so much time to recover? 252 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:07.440 And you still weren't one hundred percent by the debate. I'll just play 253 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.599 it again and then we'll pick up my conversation. And I think Mark had 254 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.160 something to chime in. You know, you say you were exhausted. And 255 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.160 I know you've said that before as well, But you came and you did 256 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:19.920 have a tough mind. But you came home from Europe about eleven or twelve 257 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:26.400 days before the debate, spent six days in camp David, why wasn't that 258 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.640 enough rest time, enough recovery time? Because I was sick? Can I 259 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.319 much feeling terrible? Matter of fact, the doc's with me, I asked 260 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:33.559 him. They did a COVID test, But you're trying to figure out what's 261 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.400 wrong. So did a test to see whether or not I had some infection 262 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.799 and I'm a brus I didn't. I just had a really bad cold. 263 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:48.519 I said, Okay, a really bad cold affects you that long, then 264 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.079 it's fair then to have the conversation of not necessarily about your overall health, 265 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.559 but whether you be up for the next four years, because we all know 266 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:02.599 our immune systems decline with a and being President of the United States, leader 267 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.319 of the free world, is the most difficult job in the world. It's 268 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:11.799 not one that gets easier the longer you do it. And presidents notoriously age, 269 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:17.440 I would say more quickly than other people because of the job. And 270 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:21.640 mark your thoughts well, it turned Obama's hair gray pretty fast, didn't it. 271 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:26.319 You did? It seems like a really weird double standard in the coverage 272 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:30.799 though, between Biden and Trump. And I'm strictly speaking in journalism terms here, 273 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.440 I've never seen a feeding frenzy like this before in news media. To 274 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:40.599 scrutinize one of the two candidates but not both seems like just weird journalistic malpractice. 275 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:45.799 To me, let me respond to you this way, President Biden asked 276 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:52.519 for this interview. President Biden decided to sit down and answer these questions. 277 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.640 The difference is, I would say Donald Trump doesn't grant interviews for the most 278 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:03.640 part. He will grant interviews to very friendly outlets, and he will not 279 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.480 be asked these types of questions. But would he answer them? That I 280 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.960 think is the difference. Well, it's certainly one of them. But I 281 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:15.200 guess as a consumer of journalism and a journalist and somebody who really pays close 282 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:19.000 attention to media criticism, I've got a distinct feeling that the news media is 283 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:23.440 putting a thumb on the scale with this in a super inappropriate way, most 284 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:26.480 obviously with the New York Times, but it's everywhere, and if you pay 285 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.160 attention, you'll notice it. And it's kind of a feedback loop too. 286 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:37.960 You've got this constant, really obviously disproportionate coverage, this disproportionate focus and scrutiny 287 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.279 on Biden but not Trump, and then the news organizations turn around and pull 288 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.680 the people who have been getting bombarded with this coverage to see what they think. 289 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:49.000 And there's your feedback loop right there. Well, I would say, 290 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:52.920 also, yes, it would be fair to scrutinize in the same way. 291 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.200 And I did say if you listen, I know you're not talking about me 292 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:00.240 per se, but I'm saying more generally, yes, if you he had 293 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.880 listened to what I said. I it said that Donald Trump deserves the same 294 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.319 scrutiny if you listen to him at his rallies, and I do. Yeah, 295 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.920 if you watch him, there is some very aberant behavior going on. 296 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:17.640 There worthy a public question and dialogue. Sometimes I think people just want to 297 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:22.319 trust to toss it to just attribute it to Trump being Trump, or he's 298 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.279 being a comedian, and no, it's disturbing behavior, right. All I'm 299 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:30.880 saying is that you've got to be fair and look at them both, because 300 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:36.759 it's been very disproportionate since that debate, and that's been inappropriate to me as 301 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:41.319 a journalist. I assume that ABC has put in a request to speak to 302 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:47.720 Donald Trump. I don't know if you will grant that request. I think 303 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:52.240 it's unlikely, especially because it's ABC, not a friendly not like Fox News, 304 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:56.200 not like Newsmax, and it's George Stephanopoulos, who has, you know, 305 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.519 a democratic background, right, and he's known to ask some tough questions 306 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:04.240 and in fact, I well, I'm trying to remember what I've been watching, 307 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.519 but I watch so much that sometimes it all blends together. I seem 308 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:12.359 to recall an interview between Stephanopoulos and Trump in the past that didn't go so 309 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.039 well, but I'd have to look it up between between the seconds. I 310 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:22.240 think he has sat down with George before, but in today's environment, I 311 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.319 don't think he will. There are things that I think he did before he 312 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:30.200 was president and during his presidency, and I think he's much more retrenched now. 313 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.880 He's he's not trying to speak to anyone and everyone. That's not his 314 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:40.000 goal. He speaks to his base, his followers, his supporters, and 315 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.440 that's about it. Yeah, and he's also been lying kind of low ever 316 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:48.039 since then as well. And I've seen credible analysis that he's just kind of 317 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:53.400 watching the circular firing squad at work among the Democrats. Well, well, 318 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:57.119 democrats do eat their own, you know. I just provide political analysis. 319 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.839 So whatever happens happens. But before we finished the set, but I did 320 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.039 want to play a little bit more audio, and he was asked. President 321 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:08.039 body was asked specifically whether this was a bad episode or something else along the 322 00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:11.480 lines of our conversation, Mark, listen to this. You and your team 323 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:17.400 said, have said you had a bad night, but your friend Nancy Pelosi 324 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:19.440 actually framed the question I think is on the minds of millions of Americans. 325 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:26.160 Was this a bad episode with a sign of a more serious condition. It's 326 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.920 a bad episode, no indicating any serious condition. I was exhausted. I 327 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:36.880 did listen to my instincts in terms of pre parents and the bad nights. 328 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:41.279 Let's again, I want to be consistent. Let's take him at his word. 329 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.319 If it's just a bad episode, a bad night, you know that 330 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:49.839 he cannot have any misstep between now and November. He can't freeze up. 331 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:56.799 You can't have a similar moment in another debate. If there are any more 332 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.839 debates. I don't know if they will have any more debates. I don't 333 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:03.000 know if people are going to accept it, because again, this is a 334 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:08.799 twenty two minute interview, not a ninety minute debate, and the rigors of 335 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:15.960 the campaign trail are going to increase between now and then if you use history 336 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.920 as a guide, He's going to have to do more campaigning, He's going 337 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.640 to have to do more interviews, he needs to be seen more often to 338 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:29.839 counteract any type a picture that people may have in their heads of that night. 339 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:32.680 I think you're right. I think as a news consumer, just be 340 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:37.359 aware of what you're watching and don't settle for any really obvious double standards in 341 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.319 the coverage, and standards that one person is held to and the other person 342 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.279 is not. Well, this is what I blame the Democratic Party for. 343 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.839 There are things that the Democratic Party does, and there are things that the 344 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:55.640 Democratic Party allows, and part of this, I believe is they allow it 345 00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:00.039 and they try to answer questions that are not asked of other people. And 346 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:04.559 in the way that people were trying to make the comparison between Mitch McConnell and 347 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:08.880 Joe Biden, Mitch McConnell, well we're people asking him to step down where 348 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:14.160 people ask him and I said, that's a false comparison. Number one, 349 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.720 number one, because he did step down as Senate Majority Leader. And number 350 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.960 two, he's not running for re election. He's made it clear that he's 351 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.640 gonna be done. She's going to finish out his turn. But the Democrats 352 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:32.200 hold themselves to higher standards than the Republicans. That's on them. And what 353 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:37.240 I mean by that is Nama last Republican to resign or step down anyone. 354 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.880 What since Nixon? No, I'm just saying in the past, since the 355 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:48.640 Trump era began. Good one, So I'm being serious. Yeah, a 356 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:56.039 bunch of Democrats. Democrats hold Democrats to certain standards that the Republicans don't hold 357 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:59.559 Republicans. No, you actually make a terrific point, because there's no Republican 358 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:03.480 equivalent to say Al Franken and what he did, right, that's or John 359 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.400 Conyers. I mean, I can run a long list. So those are 360 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:12.000 things that the Democrats do to themselves, having nothing to do with Republicans. 361 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:17.440 It's later with mo Kelly can't I am six forty We're live everywhere on the 362 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.960 iHeartRadio app and when we come back we have a study of California's most and 363 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:27.720 least educated cities. You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI 364 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:34.400 AM six forty Wallet Hub. You know that financial services company compared the one 365 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:41.000 hundred and fifty most populated cities in the United States and graded them based on 366 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:47.160 a formula that included the share of adults with high school diplomas and college degrees 367 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:53.720 with respect to the quality of public education. So it ranks the top one 368 00:27:53.759 --> 00:28:00.400 hundred and fifty most populated area slash cities in the United States as it related 369 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:07.880 to education. So let me just give you very quickly the sixth Oh my 370 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:17.759 goodness, of the top one fifty six California cities are at the bottom, 371 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:37.119 coming in at number one hundred and forty Fresno, California. She got up 372 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.480 so fast. What do you want to say? Yeah, it's number one 373 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:47.440 forty what what don't hate on fresnow, I'm I'm just reading the I'm just 374 00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:56.559 reading the list, coming in a number hundred and forty two. Selinas, 375 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.599 California, coming in at number one hundred and forty five of the top one 376 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:07.000 hundred and fifty cities and areas in the United States with respect to education, 377 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.720 and if you're one hundred and forty five, that means you're at the bottom, 378 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:22.079 you know, least educated Stockton. I'm sensing a theme here, coming 379 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:32.839 in to number four, one hundred and forty six, Modesto, coming in 380 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:37.160 at one hundred and forty seven of the one hundred and fifty cities in the 381 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.599 United States, I guess would be least educated. If you're at number one 382 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:51.839 forty seven, Bakersfield, this is nationally. This is not just California, 383 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.920 this is nationally and coming in at one hundred and fifty, the exact bottom 384 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:07.160 of the of the list by Silure. Well, look, it's not my 385 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.240 fault. I'm just reading it and they all happen to be in the same 386 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:15.240 general area of I've made it out of Fresno. Oh you're still still on 387 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.640 Fresno. Take heart in the fact that you are only one hundred and fortieth. 388 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.440 And if you're wondering at the other end of the spectrum, the ten 389 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.839 most educated cities in the United States, according to wallet Hub, we're gonna 390 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:37.240 have to run to these fasts. Coming in at number ten Seattle slash Tacoma 391 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:49.240 slash Bellevue, Number nine Boston slash Cambridge slash Newton, Massachusetts, of course, 392 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:59.720 Number eight Austin slash Round Rock slash Georgetown, Texas. Number seven, 393 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:15.960 Raleigh, North Carolina. Number six, San Francisco slash Oakland slash Berkeley lumped 394 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:32.960 them all together. Number five Madison, Wisconsin. Number four, Durham Chapel 395 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:44.240 Hill, North Carolina. Number three Washington d C Arlington and Alexandria, Virginia. 396 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:52.079 Number two Stephen, Oh, he's on the phone. I need a 397 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:57.799 step phone San Jose. I wanted him to play the song do you know 398 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.279 the way to San Jose? But he was busy. And number one the 399 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:14.000 most educated city in the US according to wallet Hub. Ann Arbor, Michigan. 400 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.640 Really, I don't know, I don't know. San Diego came in 401 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:24.759 in number twenty three. Sacramento came in at number forty nine. Fifty two 402 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:32.119 was Santa Rosa, Petaluma. Sixty fourth was Santa Maria Santa Barbara. Number 403 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:38.000 ninety two was Oxnard slash Thousand Oaks. Number one, twenty one was Valeo, 404 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:45.640 and number one thirty seven it is Riverside slash San Bernardino or River Tucky. 405 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:51.480 What what? What? How was that above Fresno. Well, someone's 406 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.960 got to be the dumbest. I mean, not everyone. Not everyone's equally 407 00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:00.319 dumb. I'm sorry, was I talking about Presno? I'm trying to arned 408 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:07.359 out where La is in this La slash Long Beach slash Anaheim. They lumped 409 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:13.359 it all together even though it's different counties. Number eighty seven right, kind 410 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.839 of in the middle, ish, kind of on the lower end of the 411 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.359 middle. All right, are you are you mad? Why are you mad 412 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:23.599 at me? Because Fresno doesn't measure up? Well? I think I'm pretty 413 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:28.440 educated, but I will say I didn't go to Fresno schools. I went 414 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:34.440 to Clovis schools, which Fresno and Clo Tomato, Tomato, Presne, Clovis. 415 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.079 It's all the same to me. Do you know where Clovis is? 416 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.559 Does anybody know where close is? I mean other than googling a map. 417 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.200 Look, hey, hey, you are not representative of this education standard. 418 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.039 You are above the standard. You actually set the standard by everyone in your 419 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:58.359 area where you came up with where they should strive to beef this. Do 420 00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:04.720 not let this check who you are just because where they're from. You know, 421 00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:09.079 No, I appreciate that. 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