1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:07,839 These lawsuits involve high- ranking military trios and loves disputed by these individuals. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:22,320 I don' t like Parigi' s dumb puss, Mrs St Pario, 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,839 do your head. In the Dominican Republic we know more about ball than about 4 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:34,200 our laws to talk about laws and a little clique ball rhythms of the morning. 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,399 Juan Arturo said you know how great I am to invite a friend of 6 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,520 yours for a threesome and then your husband ends up falling in love with your 7 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,039 friend and then prefers the other one, i e your friend, instead of 8 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:51,079 you. That' s why I never recommend threesomes. Guys are only heavy 9 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:56,159 in movies you see of pornography. The welcome to the son of Doña Maira 10 00:00:56,479 --> 00:01:00,759 Greetings good morning, and never do it with your partner search be now accurate. 11 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,159 Don' t write to me that I have many places where you can 12 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,680 go to get supplies for that activity. You know that way, and if 13 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:10,439 you want to include me, I get into everything, too. But papobre 14 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:14,840 chao to participate. I can' t participate. I can work chap I 15 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,000 can come on. I told you the orchestra what you want to know. 16 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:22,040 There are tools and skills. I' m not lacking and you have the 17 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,079 information there. Gentlemen, good morning. Happy to be back here with you. 18 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:36,280 I usually look at issues that are not well discussed and that are thorny 19 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,840 by their nature. I' ve been trying to stay out of it and 20 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,439 it' s been my policy since I' ve talked to this before. 21 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:47,480 It is an issue that I have always noticed and I have celebrated it clearly 22 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,359 because of the fact that I am one of those who think that in order 23 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,400 to have serious debates, we all have to be in a position to have 24 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,400 a serious debate. Today we will fight them and listen. Today we are 25 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,959 going to discuss the issue of the three causes, abortion, in the draft 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,159 code, the draft penal code, the Dominican Republic, and that is really 27 00:02:07,199 --> 00:02:12,319 what we are discussing. But I' m going to talk about it from 28 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:15,080 the perspective of what we' re talking about today. Not about agendas, 29 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,240 not about whether they want free abortion, no, nothing. That' s 30 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,759 what we' re discussing today in the project, what I' m interested 31 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,879 in analyzing and I want to start already designed by the way, that hasn 32 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,479 ' t gotten you into the project, of course, exactly, starting from 33 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:35,879 there starting from there. But I want to start by saying that this is 34 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:42,520 not the main or real reason why that Penal Code that we are discussing today 35 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,919 has almost tardy years of discussion going on in gabetado. That' s the 36 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,439 first thing. It is not true if the Dominican legal community were honest enough 37 00:02:52,879 --> 00:03:00,360 at the time of raising its criticisms or its positions on the subject. Everyone 38 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:05,319 knows what the real reason politicians set up a theater is, they pay a 39 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,520 group of elements to mount a pantomime and then succumb to the boat and sink. 40 00:03:13,039 --> 00:03:15,680 Of course and they are twenty- three years old in that, and 41 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:23,319 you realize that there is no real motivation to prove the Penal Code by the 42 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:29,840 date when they introduce me just over a month after the President' s inauguration 43 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:37,120 of the second term to winemaker now little hand. It seems as if the 44 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:38,840 project was reintroduced was a month and a half, almost two months. And 45 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:45,560 something that you said here in private about two weeks ago that later I kept 46 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:51,800 that reflection, and that is that the mere wording of how the text is 47 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,159 written leaves you very clear that there is no intention, because the carelessness that 48 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,080 there is in the wording continuously, article by article of very ambiguous things, 49 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:09,520 you know that they are interpreted in ten different ways, et cetera. A 50 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,719 language that is not so clear, so literal of what more people want to 51 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,439 realize has to be very punctual well literal, that the expression is not interpreted 52 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:23,720 beyond what the same norm can give space. Make it right, he tells 53 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,079 you that there is no intention that what we were doing is victim of what 54 00:04:28,079 --> 00:04:32,920 of another season of the theater, of the criminal procedure code that goes for 55 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:39,759 his season number nine. It really goes around and what strikes me particularly is 56 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,600 that for me this is not a serious debate and it is not a serious 57 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,839 debate on the part of either of the two opposing factions, neither for the 58 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:55,839 provida nor for the advocates of the causes. It' s not because the 59 00:04:55,879 --> 00:05:01,680 first thing you do in a serious debate is show real data and statistics that 60 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:08,879 are, well, representative of a population about eleven million people, in which 61 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:14,160 you, the exact truth show this is a problem or this is not a 62 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,360 problem Let' s start out there and you can say by listening good. 63 00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:25,240 What happens is that there they want to ban or they want that to be 64 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,240 done. But people live doing abortion. That' s how you see bottles 65 00:05:28,319 --> 00:05:32,399 and hangers and it' s a murder. He' s been banned since 66 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:36,480 day one. The man organized himself clearly and people continue to kill and not 67 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,879 why they kill each other. Then they open no, people kill themselves as 68 00:05:40,959 --> 00:05:46,120 they want. Let' s punish murder, where the logic of truth is 69 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,199 absurd. When we started living in society that we understood we didn' t 70 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:56,480 need each other, we understood right there that killing your neighbor was more problematic 71 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:02,240 than solving a situation. Although there are excellent and very specific exceptions, some 72 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,360 things. Why I say this is a serious debate. It' s not 73 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:14,439 serious. First of all, I have not seen the first real representative study 74 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,560 based not only on quantitative and qualitative, but also on sociological, psychological and 75 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:27,519 actual victims of this situation. Nor have I seen the first proposals that seek 76 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:34,519 to improve the system after the birth of that pregnant boy. From this comes, 77 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:38,879 she gets pregnant and that gives light is that basically what we are in 78 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,920 the middle of all this is being at the center of the worst situation. 79 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,480 It' s that both sides appeal to the right feelings, to the right 80 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:53,680 emotions, and you' re right if this is serious, if it' 81 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,839 s all for real, I both listen and listen to one side and listen 82 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,680 to the other. I think one side there are people who are convinced that 83 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:05,319 yes, that this is convenient, necessary, etcetera, and argue some of 84 00:07:05,319 --> 00:07:12,079 those people in a solid way. And on the other side there are also 85 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:18,800 people who also present data, present information, etcetera, and propose alternatives also 86 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:23,519 to what you say. But that is not the majority of the debate. 87 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Basically, the fucking conservatives want your daughter raped and you can' t get 88 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:33,000 out of that boy. But let' s go to the real statistics. 89 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,720 That' s really a problem in the Dominican Republic. That' s why 90 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,319 I started. That way then let' s go to the real statistics. 91 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,639 They want because everyone here talks, but what they want or not men who 92 00:07:44,759 --> 00:07:46,839 can compete for abortion, because it is an edition of love for the group 93 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,600 of people who are deciding for women individually. Sure and me, to make 94 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:56,480 a boy it takes two exactly. One has to be one man and the 95 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,439 other you have. I like Deathshappel' s approach. For me, abortion 96 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,800 is easy to solve. If you want it, here and I don' 97 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,839 t want it. Well, your richest and your rutor is yours. Get 98 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:11,240 the boy out. But if I don' t want to see boy, 99 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,240 you don' t want him, get out, you stay with him. 100 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,680 I don' t want paternity. I do not want responsibility and I want 101 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:20,079 sheath, because it has to be equal clear, because in the United States, 102 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,439 when a woman wanted it, she said, I want it, it 103 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:28,399 is going point, but if she wants it and the man does not want 104 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:33,120 it, Chile her pol forced until eighteen. Not other than that, and 105 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,120 I want to focus on the back to and what I just said about when 106 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,840 a girl gets pregnant, and I' m only going to refer to two 107 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,600 to two of the causal ones, because already the incompatibility with life and that 108 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,759 has to talk about it exactly. There is already an exception that sets out 109 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,759 the most drafted current wording, but it is an exception, because the problem 110 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:56,440 is that those who can interpret this exception are fical judges, not doctors, 111 00:08:56,639 --> 00:09:01,039 who are there with the problem. I understand six of that writing for Thursday 112 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,399 ' s digifical to play the given stick as a ponca, but not the 113 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:09,200 doctor. He' s got a girl who' s got complications with target 114 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:15,240 kind of things. There is a principle that many of those who support are 115 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,799 not including causal ones. At the time, in two thousand and thirteen, 116 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:28,799 they supported the sentence of constitutional on the subject of nationality and eight, which 117 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,279 was a principle that seems quite logical to me, of an illegality in that 118 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:39,000 case, in the matter of migration, can not arise a legality. So 119 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,679 in those two causes, when we refer to incest rape, we are facing 120 00:09:43,759 --> 00:09:50,639 two crimes that are criminalized in the Dominican Republic, which have penalties. So, 121 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,960 when one of those two crimes is committed, you force a person to 122 00:09:56,159 --> 00:09:58,600 take charge, a woman, in this case, of a belief that it 123 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:05,840 was pro that she was born in the umbrella of the Commission of a crime, 124 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,840 is a bit morally speaking above. It' s conflicting. That' 125 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:13,720 s what I think I' m asking, you want to have it. 126 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:18,000 Yeah, hit him over there? You don' t want it, don 127 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,039 ' t hit it there. Then that' s where I temptfully remember you. 128 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,399 Then that' s where I go. Let' s assume that woman, 129 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:26,600 for whatever, okay, I' m gonna complete this pregnancy, but 130 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,519 I don' t want to. I don' t want to. What 131 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,240 happens is that here what you want to establish is that a person, because 132 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,360 that is already part of the story. You know her pretty well that she 133 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:43,440 ' s a person who gets pregnant. Let' s say in an incestuous 134 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,440 rape her father entered her carnally on several occasions and on one of them she 135 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,360 became pregnant and then this person, in that context, does not have the 136 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,320 freedom or would be without the freedom to decide whether or not to want it, 137 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,639 because they make it beautiful. But immediately, as happens in Spain, 138 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,519 for example, anyone says that they rape her with that boy, of course, 139 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,279 then it is a subject that I know how conflicting I have done and 140 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,639 you will not come to reason with anyone arguing about it. Not because they 141 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:16,639 always appeal to me He gave me not because you, since you have no 142 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,639 daughters, look brother if I had her, because people talk like you have 143 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,399 no family. Of course, I have families who have been savagely raped. 144 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,440 I know what it' s like to live with people who had to come 145 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,720 home in hours of the night, were ambushed, thrown into a bush, 146 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:43,000 savagely raped with their entire vagina torn apart because they didn' t just settle 147 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,200 for penetrating it. He put a stick in him and had to take him 148 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:52,039 out of emergency because he was bleeding out. And that' s that healing 149 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,080 process that of that trauma that that person is going through, you have to 150 00:11:56,159 --> 00:12:00,600 witness every day. That, that can' t swim and tell me that 151 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:03,240 I don' t know what' s there, because I lived it when 152 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:07,519 I was thirteen with a cousin of mine. So it' s not a 153 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,919 matter of sentimentality or the vanity of traditionalities, of clear reality, so we 154 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,240 can' t reduce here to saying that you don' t know, that 155 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,679 you' re not supposed to know. It' s a subject of this 156 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,840 that you' re not empathetic. But, Brother, when abello comes, 157 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:26,279 I am more empathetic than many who are pretending empathy that they have not passed 158 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,360 even near a clinic, a therapist who attends to sexually abused women. Likewise, 159 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:37,159 that and the theme of the next one, let' s assume that 160 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,039 this young woman decides that she will continue with the pregnancy. He doesn' 161 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:43,240 t want to abort, but he doesn' t want to hold the creature 162 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,360 responsible. And you say ah to hand over to Conani adupsión, but it 163 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:56,240 is already necessary to counterprove that Annie does not have the means to deal with 164 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,600 all these cases, neither administrative nor economic. And it' s not gonna 165 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:05,120 drive you. No. No. And the subject of the se for nothing. 166 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,399 And the worst is that the adoption process in the Dominican Republic is one 167 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:20,039 of the most cumbersome, long, laudable and necessarily bureaucratic and most humiliating processes 168 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,600 in the country, in the country, in the region. Listen to me 169 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,200 because I' m talking about the experience I' ve had with that kind 170 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,120 of process. That' s humiliating for the human being. You what you 171 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,840 give the hope to a little boy that they will adopt him and, suddenly, 172 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,919 by a role implemente, carajeto complement exactly by some missing papers that not 173 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,639 that the whole option process has already fallen. That' s humiliating for the 174 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,120 human being and that boy you' re not getting a level education because they 175 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,600 can' t, they can' t with her, they don' t 176 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,879 have the staff prepared, qualified, available and enough to raise that boy in 177 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:05,039 what appears to be adopted. And above that is the prohibition that single people 178 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,720 can adopt in a country where most homes are we will play for more parts 179 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:15,480 fifty- three percent. I don' t know about the last census, 180 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,960 and I think it' s going through seventy- five percent of the children 181 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:24,159 of age, among children and teenagers growing up in a home where they swim 182 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,639 and there' s one of the parents. Then it doesn' t adapt 183 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:31,679 to reality. And that' s the kind of global discussion that we really 184 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:37,480 have to have on this objective topic you understand, but also realistic, of 185 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,679 course it' s adapted to those we have. It does not repeat that 186 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:43,320 the studies of Fulano, such to the Pan, such country, ok TE 187 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,879 serve as platform. As ok we will see to compare the region and when 188 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,919 you are international you compare other countries and those are problems in other countries and 189 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:56,000 solutions that they can apply and see if your country works. Here we want 190 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,799 to bring all the coal. International law is supposed to be a subject of 191 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,320 comparison and see if it works. But it doesn' t work. And 192 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:05,279 we have had that conversation about many laws that have arrived here in the Dominican 193 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:11,960 Republic. They are model laws, laws imposed copied laws that are not adapted 194 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,759 to the reality of the country. And there' s a question that I 195 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,320 used the other day a pretty interesting metaphor. There is much appeal to ad 196 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:33,200 populum arguments here. Most countries in the world have approved abortion congratulations. Possibly 197 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:37,559 this society, its composition, form of regret and culture, is not something 198 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:43,159 that it wants or that is acceptable, decided not to have it. In 199 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Saudi Arabia. Women couldn' t handle the other days. In most countries 200 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:52,279 women drive when Arabia wanted to, let them handle that well they are letting 201 00:15:52,360 --> 00:16:02,559 them be more equal to men than they were seven years ago. The argument 202 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:07,639 they are also raising is not because in developed countries our social, cultural reality, 203 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:14,200 all aspects that have to see how a society performs, does not demand 204 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,679 that everything that happens in Sweden or what is given to France or whatever is 205 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:23,799 in the United States is brought here because the world has to see it as 206 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:29,159 and was the metaphor that I used. The world must be seen as a 207 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:37,080 school with all three levels of middle physical education. Here we want to put 208 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:41,879 being us primary, that is, we are learning to be organized society. 209 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:48,159 We are not, but we want to be given the subjects of pre- 210 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,919 university students in third grade, which I think we do. Per second. 211 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:57,320 Then there are questions that cannot be brought up because reality does not admit them 212 00:16:57,399 --> 00:17:04,119 and too much. There are examples that overflow any vessel where you' re 213 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,440 going to throw them right and I think that' s also the discussion we 214 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:12,599 should have. The President is out there with his reformist drive, but what 215 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,880 are the real things that are urgent and what are not urgent? And I 216 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,119 was talking early about this issue of the Penal Code just getting here, so 217 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,319 you initially raise it because you don' t want to prove it. And 218 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,680 secondly, because, unfortunately, this country does not have responsible and committed political 219 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:37,279 leadership. Or the things that you truly read demand society at the moment and 220 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,680 that you urgently need, because, although it sounds cruel, what I' 221 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,720 m going to say, if there' s something that' s not a 222 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,960 problem in this payas maybe a boy. If there' s anything here, 223 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:52,200 don' t let a doctor go to jail because he had to do his 224 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,039 job as a doctor. If there' s anything here, it' s 225 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,680 just that a woman has the victory because she took off or in Najayo women 226 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,559 because the decu saw a little face taken out. That doesn' t happen 227 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,200 in this country. That' s not urgent and let' s be honest 228 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,279 to say that. That' s not an important issue in the Dominican Republic, 229 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,480 so they don' t impose it as an emergency drink or death. 230 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,680 It' s not then when society goes out there pussy and let future generations 231 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,200 discuss the issues, because what we' re in the paleolithic we' re 232 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:30,480 not going to agree. But we also need to solve the fucking problems. 233 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:34,279 Code that there are three hundred and fifty- eight thousand new pedal types that 234 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,240 are not covered by law, people and pending legislation and that yes, it 235 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,759 is urgent, look and there are things and that is why I did not 236 00:18:42,839 --> 00:18:47,519 tell you at the beginning when it raises the issue that we are not having 237 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:51,240 a serious debate, that has not been shown statistics, serious, complete, 238 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,079 representative of what happens in the Dominican Republic. And what strikes me is that, 239 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,319 there are so many things in this code that we have to discuss, 240 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:04,359 we are distracted only by this issue because what you raise is not an urgency. 241 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,160 You can not toter them, but it is the subject that always makes 242 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:18,400 noises and here it seems that we do not put cases that to the crimes 243 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,319 of corruption has opened a catalog that is very nice, very wide, that 244 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,480 cool that there are new crimes related to administrative corruption. That' s excellent, 245 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,559 but they took away the imprescriptibility. I mean, a people who make 246 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,359 a cry of corruption and it' s been 20 years before we know it, 247 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,960 you' re gonna come out of it, because you' re not 248 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,480 gonna be able to chase it. And in that sense, there are two 249 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:45,119 currents of thought where I have seen discussions in other countries on this same issue. 250 00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:49,720 There are countries that have the imprescriptibility. We have it in force all 251 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,000 of us. There are others who don' t. And the argument of 252 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:57,400 those who have it, they have to be prescriptible. The crimes say what 253 00:19:57,519 --> 00:20:03,839 happens that in the future could people and for an unhealthy intention, a man 254 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,200 who is already twenty years old that the invention is gone a far from life. 255 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,480 OK. All right, that' s all possible, but what' 256 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:15,480 s the Dominican legal tradition of it being imprescriptible already and so it has to 257 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,319 be that way. No. And the point is that in weak judicial systems 258 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,880 like ours, it has to be like this because we realize that they steal 259 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,039 from us, because we get to the house and we run out of it 260 00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:26,519 as it goes here. But here, you kind of lack the furniture, 261 00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:30,680 you don' t understand. Then, unfortunately, our social and legal reality 262 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:36,759 becomes. And I tell you one thing, you know that the argument was 263 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:38,599 tried to get her through eighty- six with the crimes of that humanity. 264 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:42,359 Not that in the eighty- six states that you will not be able to 265 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:48,480 exercise control in migration. Here there were people who came out in the media 266 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:51,160 saying that that is a rite of humanity' s departures in that project, 267 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,960 that' s a lie the same eighty- six makes the exception to you 268 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,440 the parish priest telling you that the authorities can exercise their equal immigration control and 269 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,960 that I don' t just rite in that humanity. Which means there have 270 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,880 to be some characteristics. To say, what happens is that they were feeling 271 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,400 what topics were going to be incendiary to distract us all in everything. This 272 00:21:11,519 --> 00:21:15,599 penal code seems to have been drafted by a paralegal who is taking his first 273 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:22,400 kind of introduction to the law. That' s what a reputed social media 274 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,799 lawyer said. The other day, I said she' s read things wrong. 275 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,279 But where this code came from, the world stopped. I don' 276 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:33,680 t know where people got project, so you had to tell me the job 277 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,319 you went through to find it? Finding it wasn' t available until the 278 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,039 day you sent it to me exactly that day I looked it up to the 279 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:45,920 work of life. You know that to find it was I had to turn 280 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,119 everything like me, I am not a lawyer myself, if what I wanted 281 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,720 was simply to concentrate on the points that dominated the discussion at that time, 282 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,079 which was the approach made by Mr Cedeño. I didn' t want to 283 00:21:57,079 --> 00:21:59,400 read a note. I didn' t want to read a story. I 284 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,960 wanted to read it. And certainly, both the one hundred and thirty- 285 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:10,599 four and the one hundred and thirty- five And the paragraph that has that 286 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,400 I think is leftover is a thorny subject too, but we did not discuss 287 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,519 the article, but what Eugenio Cedeño said. Of course I don' t 288 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:23,559 care what I said. He can take that stand and have that conviction written 289 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,759 in stone. I want to see what he is saying about what leads him 290 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,279 to comment or example. And that didn' t happen last week. He 291 00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:37,319 doesn' t know any public means of the article. There was no serious 292 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,920 discussion about the denial of the article. Exactly then. That' s the 293 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,799 point. I think what you' re doing is very valid and I' 294 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,960 ve said it before. I share your position. Sometimes you don' t 295 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:52,559 have to wet your feet, but in these shows, in these pods, 296 00:22:52,720 --> 00:23:00,160 you better keep the shore of the beaches. Definitely, I' m being 297 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,559 very cautious about this kind of subject, because I don' t want either 298 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,720 of Postter' s two not semi parts. I don' t give a 299 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:11,279 shit about cannon meat,' cause that' s what they do. They 300 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,319 get the cut out, they don' t put the whole explanation of what 301 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,880 we talked about here today and they grab you and drag you. Law degree 302 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:25,200 agrees with Arden' s three reasons for such a radio program says that raped 303 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:30,759 women should have the same child. No. I don' t think they 304 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:32,960 should or shouldn' t. I think you should be free to decide what 305 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,200 the fuck you want to do with your life by now. Of course, 306 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:40,680 and in that I' m clear and I have a conviction that I think 307 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,880 abortion is a horrible act, but I also understand that I can' t 308 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,599 tell people that it looks like a boy either. So there I bump into 309 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:53,519 my ideas and my values, because it' s a conflict that even those 310 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:57,359 of us who are more liberal in thought. We have it, they' 311 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,759 re not so simple. It doesn' t solve it' s black and 312 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:03,640 white. Or this isn' t white and no. In the middle there 313 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,519 are too many nuances, too many situations of people who are trampling between the 314 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,599 legs of horses in the middle of a discussion that is not serious. It 315 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,200 ' s not serious. You were talking about that there' s a sector 316 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,680 that you' re getting money or a holster. It' s not just 317 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,599 a sector. Everyone here is getting a quarter- cast and we' re 318 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:30,240 talking about another free topic. So good graduate. I think we need to 319 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,519 give him a second part of this. But I give you this optics. 320 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:41,160 I think you can even talk about it quietly, get the emotion out of 321 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,119 your feelings, because I set the example of my relative' s case, 322 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,519 because sometimes people think that you take positions, because you' re far from 323 00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,559 everything, that you don' t know the world. You know it the 324 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,240 world, that that' s foreign to you, that you' re incapable 325 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:02,400 of being empathetic. I' m not, but I don' t see 326 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,799 the things in the discussions of issues as complex from such an emotional and manichean 327 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,039 perspective as they want to put it to me. And maybe in that, 328 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:17,799 maybe in that I' m being as objective as possible. This here is 329 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:22,079 a lot of Manichaeism, a lot of ochestorsion. There are people who act 330 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,559 in good faith on one side and on the other, but most on the 331 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:33,440 other side are not doing so. So it is if you can not follow 332 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,319 me in playing hard m on all social networks and also invite them to follow 333 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:42,720 behind the hom behind this server' s sports podcast measures here the lord who 334 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:48,200 will be father, son of Soyla. I had a co on Friday, 335 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:53,279 he gave me a tongue fight and I went home. Dona, I' 336 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,960 m the same. The invitation is open, but without tongue fighting, Doña 337 00:25:56,039 --> 00:26:04,079 Soyla, uh, what four thousand people on twitch t ah watching the alive 338 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:11,759 well and what the devil that gave him. Oh, okay, thanks to 339 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,240 you guys who gave the ray.