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You're listening to the downbeat on ninety
seven one The Freak all right, one

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hour away from some big, juicy
stuff involving Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Kimmel.

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Aaron Rodgers went on the Pat McAfee
show yesterday and really kind of stepped in

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it a little bit. Jimmy Kimmel
responded, we have sports beef and Hollywood

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beef, and it all has to
do with the Epstein List, which is

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another just weird part of this.
The Epstein List not out yet. We're

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still kind of waiting. We thought
it was going to come out yesterday.

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I'm sort of wonder now that we're
a couple of days into it, like,

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is it going to even come out? I saw something a couple of

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weeks okay, something happened on the
file whatever. I don't you know,

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I don't know if what I read. Who knows if it's true? You

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know, right, But you've heard
that it might be a couple of weeks

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before it comes out January twenty first
or something. Has it been pushed back

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a little bit? Well again,
I don't even want to because I read

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on John tweet while I was half
asleep, hopped up on night quill that

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person number one oh seven filed an
injunction of some kind that said this could

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put me in physical danger because of
my current location, which I think is

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Middle East. Okay, yeah,
now that's very possible. I saw the

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New York Times last night at like
seven o'clock was like could come out tomorrow.

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So the safety part of that is
interesting. And it's an angle that

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Jimmy Kimmel played were one hour away
from that. We'll get into that.

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There's audio and this goes back a
little ways as well. I kind of

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went through a little bit of a
wormhole looking at the past, and uh,

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it's not the first time these guys
have been at odds with each other.

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But I didn't have Aaron Rodgers versus
Jimmy Kimmel on my twenty twenty four

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prediction sheet. But man, pretty
good in an hour. We'll get to

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that. Right now is to sports
and now sports at seven? All right,

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So we got a few things,
but I'm gonna start with the maps

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because we're at the home of the
Dallas Maps. You guys cooled that real

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quick. Absolutely, NBA social media
is most viewed players of twenty twenty three,

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and we have two players on it, and he guesses, well we

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we yes, we have the same
two guesses and we're both correct. Dwight

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pal and and don't excellent mass play
tonight at home agats Portland. You can

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catch that game here on the free
Do you have the whole list? Oh

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no, just a quick hitter.
Well, yeah, I've got it actually,

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yeah, okay, you're gonna play
the game kind of yes, because

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I want to know how many people
total? How many players total? Fifteen

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top fifteen, what most searched or
uh? This is based on social media

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rankings based on the twenty twenty three
calendar year. Most social media interaction on

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ex Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,
and YouTube. Okay, so the players

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most talked about? Yeah, not
the player themselves is most interact Yeah?

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All right, Well I'm curious if
Luca's number one? No, no,

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I wonder if yeah, no,
way, Kyrie's above Luca? Right,

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no, no, for amount of
tweets and posts about No, but they're

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both in the top fifteen. So
Luca has nine hundred and fourteen million views

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whatever that means? Is he ahead
of Kyrie? He is? Okay,

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what numbers are they? Lucas five? Yeah, Kyrie's twelve. Yeah,

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Lebron number one, Lebron number one, number two, Yama Oh, Wenmby's

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number three. That's really good.
That's Good's Wemby's number three cause I was

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to most iconic player in the league
outside of Lebron. Well, you could

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argue is Steph Curry, Steph ok
they're all current players. Yes, Joannis

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Jannis is actually a little further back
this year. He is number nine.

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Yeah, Milwaukee factor. But Jokic
has to be just in the title run.

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Yeah four, Jokic five, Luca
six. This is the guy probably

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doesn't get as much household recognition as
he should. East Coast Oh, Jaylen

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Brown are uh? Jason tATu Yes, correct seven? This guy bounces around.

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He likes Burner accounts. Durant Kevin
Durant. Number eight. This guy

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was in the Great Film Office Christmas
Party, which is the down movie of

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the month at Alamo Drafteuse Cinema.
Jimmy Butler, Is he still doing the

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perm emo? Jimmy, but I
think that's what put him above Jannis.

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Is it what he had? And
when he showed up with emo fallout boy

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haircut that was so funny. It
is really good. Do you do you

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have any idea? No, he's
not not. They actually they being with

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it now. They mentioned that his
memorable impression on media day pretty great.

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He's a cool looking dudeen Jamal Murray
the Nugs. That's another title run and

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he did a lot of damage in
that in the finals. Davis number thirteen,

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Austin Reeves. Really, why do
I hate him because he's white?

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Because he's an annoying white dude.
You don't like white guys bawling in the

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NBA. It's weird, you know. And he's a Laker where he was.

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Yeah, that's true. He just
looks like a little bitch he does.

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Yeah, that's what all white dudes
get. Freaking Grayson Allen everyone,

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he drives everyone insane. Yeah.
Do you think Luca's The perception of Luca

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outside of Dallas is ten times worse
than I love. We've talked about that

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before. I don't know, because
ticket prices shoot up when Luke who comes

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to town. Like, bottom line
is, people want to see him.

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Plus he's got swag galore, And
I think I think people that watch don't

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watch him every night, don't see
him complaining to the refs like you know

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we do like we do. I
think the brother admires the hell out of

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Luca. I think so too.
You think he's accepted in the community.

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I guess I don't like, maybe
more so more so than Austin, right,

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I don't know. I don't know. I would like to get Mike's

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Aroy's opinion on what the brothers think. Let me speak for the African American

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community. Maybe, don't why,
I don't know. I bet I don't

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know. Let's just move on.
Let me call you the Rizzler. Look

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at my African American Joel Embiid and
then Ja Moran. There's Oo Morant only

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dead last fifteenth after all that.
Yeah, see that was fun. It

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was a little It was fun.
So let's let's kind of wrap up Cowboys

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lines here because Dan can amble's doing
some doing some radio. He's gotta have

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this a weekly radio show, as
some do. Let me let me let

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me guess. He's let it all
go and he's moved on past the past

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Lions Gate. I think he's got
this weird thing. I don't know if

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he's I don't know if it's still
hovering him. But oddly you could hear

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the reporters the other day in the
postgame press conference. We're scared to ask

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him things. And it is because
he has a whole Cogan vibe. Okay,

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yeah, you know, and yeah, is it? Brother? I

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was going for two no matter what. I'm gonna go for two three times

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in a row if I need to. So he's talking to a guy named

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Jim Costa on our sister station,
ninety seven to one the ticket in Detroit?

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Is that how it works? Is
that what they really are? Ninety

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seven to one? The ticket?
Is it? iHeart? Which is what

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people thought we were for a while, I think, and then if we

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learned quickly, they think we're not
that Dan Cardle ticket Brother cast offs Okay,

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Dan Campbell with Jim Costa on Detroit
Radio gets a little little heated at

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the end, j J Jimmy.
So after that play, you had said,

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you told the offense you're going for
two on the final drive if you

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score. But from the seven,
I mean, and looking back, like,

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was there a point of no return
where you laid on your sword and

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kicked the extra point? Do you
regret it all? The decision to go

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for it from the seven? Yeah, I told, I told our offense.

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I think I said this before,
and we're going for the win and

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we're gonna go down, we're going
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And I wasn't coming off of that. So if it was like ten

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or fifteen, like a holding penalty, you still would have gone for it.

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No, we're getting outside of ten
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You do it every week? Oh
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you got the penalty, you move
it to say it? Say it,

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both of you. What say it? Say what you want to say?

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I think from the seven it's a
low percentage play. I think your chances

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of winning are lower than if you
kick the extra play. Would say it

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to anybody else. I'm on the
radio. You want to say it?

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I thought it was a reckless decision. Thank you, okay, but you

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don't regret it. No, that's
great. That is so juicy. There

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is such value in having a coach
that does that. You know, McCarthy

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doesn't really do that. He faces
the music in front of plenty of microphones,

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but you don't get that kind of
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it and it was just stupid.
Yeah, yeah he did. Because if

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Dan cambll wasn't on the phone.
He's just yelling on the radio. You

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would have said it's stupid, and
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was stupid. He had crazy eye. He was so mad at the getting

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screwed out of the two point conversion
of they already nailed. He's like,

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ef it go again. It was
really stupid. And and then again,

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I like Dan Campbell a lot.
And are you kidding? The Lions are

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relevant and their division champions. I
love all that. Plus we've heard him

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around here forever. He's you know, he played down here, and he's

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been on the radio in town a
lot. He's awesome. But that is

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not is not good, and that's
sort of a sign of a I don't

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know, letting your emotions get the
best of you. And that's one thing

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that a head coach can't do.
You have to take that extra breath.

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But he was so mad, He's
like, f it, run out there

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and score them if the refs not
good. I said that yesterday he went

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for two from the seven despite the
refs. Right. That wasn't about winning,

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No, that was not about setting
the Lions up to win that game

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or to have a better chance to
win that game. Why would you because

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he was mad and he was emotional, and you can't make emotional decisions in

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that case. And I don't care
if you said, hey, we're gonna

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go down there and score and we're
gonna get two and we're gonna win this

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game. You're that you're not beholden
to that, And that's right out the

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window when you lose five yards and
you would think, look, okay,

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I get it that that Michael was
off sides. It had no bearing on

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the outcome of the play, and
the Cowboys stopped it cold from the seven.

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Well then you move up half the
distance of the goal and well,

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no, you're at the three and
a half. You've had a little bit

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of time to cool off the three
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from the three and a half.
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two, but even at that point, it's like, okay, all right,

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get in that kick it. Let's
just go to At that point,

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I'm kicking it still. Wow,
from the three and a half, Dude,

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you too. You're looking the extra
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after you were just had gone for
it from the seventh. In that scenario,

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I guess maybe you don't then at
that point, it's just doubling down

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to save face. But we all
know, and they say this every dayn

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week. Oh, they have a
package of plays that they know they need.

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Okay, so you ran one of
those plays and granted you grounded the

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throw, but it was still short
of the goal line, like you ran

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when it was at the three and
a half. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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yeah, half the distance. Yeah. So you ran a play from the

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three and a half that you probably
had in your packages to run from the

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two and it was short of the
goal line. Like, even if he's

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shoe string caught it, I'm not
sure they would have gotten in. The

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announcer're like, oh he would have
got in if Jerry Coffin ground this thing.

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That's not certain to me. The
line is like, once the option

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to run the ball is out of
there and the Cowboys know you're passing,

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then I think I'm kicking the extra
point the defining line, yes, but

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also I think they're the context of
his situation. I think makes them look

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dumber too. Last week or the
week before last, the Lions win their

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division, big locker room moment.
We've done it, man, the foundation.

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We told you it was gonna be
a long process. He calls up

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Taylor Decker and some of the guys
who were saw the whole rebuild lifted the

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two and three year win seasons of
Detroit. Okay, and now we're the

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division champs. Like, dude,
you get you don't have to play that

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way anymore. You're not those lines. You're the division champs. You are

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a contender in the NFC. You
don't have to do that. Like what

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are they And if you don't know, like what did that win mean for

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them? They were already division champs? Well technically because that happened Saturday night,

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they win that game, they're still
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and a San Francisco loss and a
win, they had a chance to be

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the one seed. Okay, so
you could they could win out and they

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were very likely the two seed and
the and two and which means you now

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the Cowboys are ahead of them?
Likely is the yeah? And if it

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was, all the Cowboys have to
do is beat the Commanders and they're the

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two seeds. We had a vision
and the two Now if the Cowboys,

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uh, by the way, fudge
it up this week, and they could.

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If the Cowboys fudge it up this
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somehow beat the Giants for the second
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take over. You know, what
would be the three at that point,

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I believe because the Lions are assuming
they play their players and win, they

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would be the two. But we're
set up for a crash course. If

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everyone does what they're supposed to do
and wins, we're set up for Detroit

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at Dallas in three weeks for the
divisional round, the second round. If

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the Cowboys get passed, what will
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round. So I love right now
as things sort of take shape, you

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know, and you start to actually
realize who's gonna be where. But that's

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why I asked that, because there's
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and like you love your coach when
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work, there is some value.
But that's why I asked about the tangible

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value of actually winning that game,
which had a lot of implications for a

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potential one still put you in a
great position for the two seeds. So

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then I guess I don't know,
those are decisions to me that hold teams

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back, though, Like those are
things where I go Okay, you might

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have been the perfect guy for the
rebuild. Now, who's the perfect guy

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to start winning playoff games? Now, it's gonna get a chance to go

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to the playoffs and show us and
have a track record. He definitely deserves

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that. But it's like decisions like
that just go. Okay. Now we

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just see that you were there for
the raw rah, I'm gonna make comments

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about my players. Are gonna go
bite your kneecaps off. You know those

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were run through a wall. Guys, cool for a rebuild? What do

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you want now? And it's time
to strategically beat you. I need the

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right guy who's gonna go win a
playoff game and make good decisions for me.

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But they have eleven wins and they've
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Yeah, so you get plenty of
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I don't I don't blame him for
I just think it's weird to say we're

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gonna go down there and score.
We're gonna go for two and win.

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Okay, that sounds awesome, But
if any part of him was like,

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damn it, I just told him
we're gonna go for two. Now we're

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at the seven yard line. But
I promised the guys, by the way,

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if they're the three, and in
his head when he's so mad,

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is he like, ugh, you
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Yeah, Like, I just promise
these boys we're gonna go down and

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win this damn game. And that's
that's when you need to take a beat.

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But if that happens in the playoffs, then I gotta think a dude

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who's been a great coach and has
turned around, like one of the jokes

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of the NFL, maybe the joke. Yeah, I well, I think

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there's the whole of two of the
offensive line for the Cowboys being a little

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hurt at that point with Tyler Smith, I'm thinking, I'm probably can go

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win this game. If their lines
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six, we have a Jared Goff
Matt Stafford Bowl. Matt Stafford returned to

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Detroit in the playoffs. I think
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Yeah, if you kick the extra
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There was nothing that the Cowboys were
doing outside of Ceedee Lamb that was

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so scary to make you think that
you couldn't win the game. You know,

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defensively, your offensive for sure cows
hadn't done much and they were running

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all over them. Yeah, that's
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it's dumb. It's a reckless It
was a great word. I have a

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pretty good job by that radio host, who I probably wouldn't like in real

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life as a person. But it
was a good like word to not cower

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down there, Bill cowerd down,
as he said, it was a reckless

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decision. That was good. Cowboys
have added Lyle Collins to their practice squad,

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working him out at tackle. I've
learned so playing you've learned. It's

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been the tackle part. You've learned
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left guard. Here when Tyler Smith
getting hurt, you might think that,

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I don't know if that's more just
insurance who probably he's probably not going to

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play right. But it makes me
go, are they worried about Terrence Steele

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who's been kind of bad and just
is not fully back from right from his

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A c L makes me think that
also, guys, I uncovered what I

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think is one of the wildless Cowboys
stats of the year. The Cowboys coming

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up next, No, I now, I don't want to wait for that.

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It would have been a good tease. It would have been a good

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one. Coming up in a couple
of minutes. Danny's got a zero risk

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spot. I'm ready. Actually it's
a it's a one of two series to

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make sure that you get both of
his zero res live spots today. It's

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a limited series. Yes, one
zero spot part each way you can spell

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it. See that's what we were
missing yesterday. Ye were missing added element.

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I'm sure it's like this missing.
So this floor, the fist goes

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down like that's not what they were
with. The Cowboys are ten and oh

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when this happens, they're oh and
five when this does not happen, ten

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and oh when this happens, oh
and five when this does not happen this

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year, and he guesses, I
would say some of us it's a tough

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one, you know, so because
I'm sure see Lambs had some monster games

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and losses. When Brandon Cooks has
more than five targets, okay, Brandon

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Cooks is the answer. That's good. It's not five targets, but it's

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close for three or more receptions.
When Brandon Cooks has at least twenty yards,

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the Cowboys are ten and oh.
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There are oh and five. You've
cracked the code. He's got four fourth

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quarter touchdowns this season too, all
in win on all of those loss obviously

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road games. Why am I surprised
every time Brandon goes catches the ball?

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Oh? Yeah, you know why? Because he'd never really was with one

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team to be an established guy.
He's bounced around so much. He's great,

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he's really good. Everyone likes him. In the locker room. He's

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like, I don't know how he
gets traded so much. It's very strange.

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Yeah, it doesn't seem like a
yeah, and maybe it's because,

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I mean, he came out of
college. I thought he'd be a big

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number one, you know, wide
receiver, and he's put up number one

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wide receiver type numbers. But week
two at I'm sorry, we're going.

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Last few days at Miami, the
loss fourteen yards. At Buffalo, the

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big loss ten yards. But then
you look every you keep going out.

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The loss in Philadelphia seven yards,
the loss against San Francisco one catch for

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seven yards, the lost to Arizona
two catches for seventeen yards. Get the

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man twenty yards, the Cowboys win. Simple, that's that. Mike McCarthy

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listening you listen to Mike get in
the ball twenty yards a lightning fast text

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response to our question at the beginning
of the segment. As we evolve about

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Luca and what the brother truly thinks
of Luca, we had somebody as a

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brother, I can confirm that we
accept the hell out of Luca. In

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fact, he's invited to the cookout. All right, And someone else said

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Euro white different than us white.
That's true, all right, that makes

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sense. Pose is kind of true. That makes sense. I want to

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go to the cookout too. According
to the text, you're currently uninvited to

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the cookout. Well, what if
Luca has a plus one? Will I

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be denied if he brings me?
I think if Luca shows up to the

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cookout, he can bring whoever you
want. Hey, then I'm in.

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You don't know Luca any more importantly, Luca doesn't know you. After this

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zero respot, he's going to be
knocking on my door, Luca. All

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right, the Las Vegas Sands people
have done some more work in town,

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and hey, if you're working at
a university in a high roll, maybe

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don't do porn. Next to ninety
seven won the freak