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Here on Mugget Square and trying to see

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mimies by a really light and fair
and a livelihood to be denied. Mother

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ran a son so glass and steel. The city is on the side,

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tear it down too fast, You
move too fast for simple man like me.

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I worked hard. I have a
light on the south side just to

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raise my family, my business school
up town in the market square, with

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life savings down. The city says, tear it down, give it on

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to the bej slop the colts do
slope for a common man like me.

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All my friends set stay on.
The judge said, you know, and

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I'm gone. The side of the
spree. One by one, man of

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the shop stolls down here my bucket
square. I'm losing ground. The one

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given will lay it down. We'll
get it on to bigg God. The

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merchants here on the bucket square.
I'm trying to save my niece. Is

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Amy is really right? Breathing fair? All my livelihood the pig and night,

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while the renaissance up the glass and
steel the city is of this side,

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the tearing down night too much and
told too much more broken bun like

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me? How my bank accountsil i
a empty? These are holding by.

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We give him thirty eight days.
It's not a minute anymore. In my

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bucket square, I gotta pose my
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me gotta go to work more me
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just say my MEAs buy was it
really light or even fair? All

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my livelihood to feed to nine for
the renaissance of class and steel, the

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cities on the serez, Oh,
that is so good, merchant on market

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square. The great lou Antonucci who
is here with us. We're going to

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bring him in in just a moment. But this is Matt Connorton unleashed as

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we uh, we are well into
our third hour Newmerow Trace on this Saturday

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morning. It is Saturday, March
thirtieth, twenty twenty four, and we

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are live from the studios of w
m n H ninety five point three FM,

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Inglorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire,
and of course also streaming. You

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can for all your live streaming options
social media links, contact infosho, archives,

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et cetera, et cetera. You
can go to my website Matt Connorton

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dot com and uh, we've got
uh let me go ahead and bring that

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mic up. Lou has been on
the show before. But it's wonderful to

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have you back, and I do
love that song. Yeah, it's great

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to be back, Matt, thanks
for having me. And this time I

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get to meet Jen who was not
here last time I was here. That's

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right, so great to be back. And yeah, I'm you know,

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I'm plag you like that song.
That's one of my favorites too, at

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least of all of the songs that
I've done. Yeah, absolutely, no,

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that's that's really good and the story
behind it that you told last time

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too, And I encourage people to
go back and listen to the story behind

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it was was really interesting. But
you've got you've got something new that you're

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or well you did talk about it
before the last time you're on with us,

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but I think it was in the
early stages of doing this. Yeah,

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it was. We just just started
it up. It's a it's a

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stage show that I do called You, Me and Harry. Okay, it's

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a uh pretty much, it's pretty
much a tribute to Harry Chapin. Okay,

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really, I like to call it
a celebration of his story songs.

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And we've been doing a few shows
already. We've done shows in Pennsylvania,

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shows in Vermont, and I got
a couple coming up here very shortly in

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Maine and New Hampshire. Okay,
okay, very cool. What uh what

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was it that motivated you to do
to do this the Harry Chapin. Well,

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you know, growing up, I
had a lot of musicians that I

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that I was into and uh,
you know, Jim Crochey, James Taylor,

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the Beatles, Crosby Stills, and
Nash. But I think the one

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artist that impacted me the most in
how I write music and how I approach

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music with Harry Chapin. Yeah,
and so many years. I mean,

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it wasn't long after his untimely death
that I had planned to do a tribute

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show when I was back in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Wasn't able to do it

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at the time. And however,
you know, fast forward fifty years and

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here I am today and finally retired
from my day job and just doing music

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full time, and you know,
decided, hey, now's the time to

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put this show together and have some
fun with it. So that's really it.

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I found. There's still a lot
of a lot of Harry Chapman fans

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out there, oh yeah, yeah. And you know, I'm a member

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of a few Harry Chapin groups on
Facebook, and you know, there's I

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know, there's probably a few of
my chape and Nite friends from one of

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those groups even joining us online today. So you know, because of that,

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and Harry would always do whether he
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he played solo, he did a
lot of solo shows. He would his

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shows were very intimate. He could
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but he was very close to his
audiences and very intimate. And that's what

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I try to emulate in these shows. Most of them. I do at

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small venues fifty to sixty seats.
Oh wow, And that's it. It's

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just you know, the reason it's
called me, you and Harry is because

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that's all there is. It's me, my guitar and the audience. Yeah.

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We run through a litany of Harry's
tunes. Oh very nice, very

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nice. How many do you do? Oh gosh. And in the course

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of the show there's probably about party
you know tunes. I probably go through

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about twenty five of them. Yeah, it all depends on the audience.

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Sometimes a show, instead of being
an hour and forty five minutes, could

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end up being two hours and fifteen
minutes. So yeah, but I do

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probably, you know, between twenty
five and thirty Okay, okay, do

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you want to you want to play
play something for us? Sure? Sure.

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You know, Harry was known to
run the spectrum of emotions in his

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in his songs that I think that's
why I'm so attracted to it. This

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particular song I'll do here, it's
not it's not necessarily rooted in a personal

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experience of his, but more just
written from the perspective of feeling pity for

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oneself. Okay, you know,
if you've ever been dumped. Have you

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been dumped? Oh I believe it
or believe it or not it? Yeah,

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yeah, I've I woul admit that. You know, when you go

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through probably the first couple of days
of just self pity, you know,

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along with anger. But and in
that time you might try to drown your

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sorrows with a little bit too much
adult beverage, if you will. And

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so this this song kind of relates
to that. Now, the name of

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the song is called if My Mary
were here, but the song is not

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necessarily about Mary. It's really about
that person we all have that can pick

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us up when we go through those
bad times. That special friend could even

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be a past girlfriend or a boyfriend, right like for you, it's probably

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Jen that picks you up when you
get down, right. So this one's

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called if My Mary were here,
all right, mm hmm, well not

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he's the stone if my may we're
here, and they don't think I'd phone

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you if Mery were here. On
the side Sackson Galad whose swords around his

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knees with the grind no along the
hole and the prayer that's saying please,

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I would not be alone if my
Mary were here. She took off Lord

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I'm lost. Noh, don't think
I'd be drinking. If my Mary were

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here and they know word, I'd
be thinking. If Mey were here,

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we'll be wrapping up barb link full
of cheadar cheese and wine back in up

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Park camp, with the Rondevo in
mind, and with picnic out in Lincoln

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Park. If Mary were here.
But she split so I got late.

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I'm sorry that I called you in
the middle of the night, but you're

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the one who listens when I need
a little life. I know we haven't

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talked since I dropped you in the
turn. I know we are not by

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lady, and now the baby our
hear I will tossing my troubles when my

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MARYA was here, bottom lost inside
the rubble one. Cosmeer is not here,

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soap, Could I come on over
with my heart in my hand?

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BA see it on the yorkill over
like rostyoting can I'm drunken seeing double Cosmerror

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is not here once again, Be
the friend that you've been and take me,

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Please take me, m m.
That sounds fantastic, fantastic. Yeah,

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if you're just joining us. Lou
Antonucci is here with us, and

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uh, he's got this new show. Is it all Harry Chapin songs?

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By the way, it's it's all
Harry. There's one song that I do

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that's not a Harry Chapin song.
There is one Oh Lou Antonucci song,

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oh Okay that I do, and
I kind of wrote it about an experience

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that happened to me over at the
the Copper Door in in uh in Bedford

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one evening when I was singing,
and that's and it's called message from Harry.

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Yeah, so I do that one
as well. But that's the only

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uh, non Harry tune in the
song, yeah, and in the in

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the show. Excuse me now.
The one coming up on April sixth,

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that's not the first one you've You've
already done a couple, right, or

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a few done a couple. I
did one in Pennsylvania outside of Pittsburgh in

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Brownsville, Pennsylvania, and one in
Vermont up at Stage thirty three Live in

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VERMONTKA. This one coming up April
sixth, a week from today, at

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seven pm, is in Freeport,
Maine. It's at a club called Cadenza.

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Okay, not craw Denza like the
furniture, but yeah, Cadenza like

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a solo in the middle of a
musical composition. Great, great little listening

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room fifty to sixty people. And
for those who don't know, when you

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say listening room, what's the difference
between that and say a venue in the

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sense that most people would think of
it. Well, listening roomly is typically

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is a lot smaller than you know, say someplace like Tupelo Music Hall that

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has seven or eight hundred seats.
Yeah, usually fifty two hundred seats,

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and it's there for listening. You're
not going there to drink beer, although

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you can get refreshments, sure,
okay, You're going there to sit down

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and listen primarily to original artists,
right, And musicians love it. I

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love it because when you're on stage, you can hear a pin drop,

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you know. I'm so used to
playing at the clubs around the area here,

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the restaurants, and it's all the
background noise, the you know,

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the dishes, the drinks, the
people talking and there. It's just it's

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wonderful to have an audience that comes
to listen and appreciate the music. So

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that's really that's what I referred to
when I say listening room. Now,

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this particular clubs owned by a gentleman
Alan Mooney is the owner there. Great

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guy. He and his wife started
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lot of national touring singers songwriters as
well as local artists. We're doing the

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show up there and also at all
my shows. This show next week is

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to benefit fit the Freeport Community Services
Food Pantry. Okay, you know part

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of this show, the whole concept
was around carrying on Harry Chapin's focus on

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fighting hunger. So at this particular
venue, that's where we're taking donations and

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nonperishable food items at the door for
the local food pantry there as well.

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Oh that's really cool. Yeah,
that's really cool. That was so that

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was something Harry Chapin was was passionate. Oh yeah, he was big in

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it. He he started the World
Hunger Organization and I didn't know that.

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Oh yeah. And he you know, in the last three years of his

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life he personally donated three million dollars
the charitable you know functions primarily having to

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do with feeding hungry people, which
back then late seventies earlier, that was

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quite a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah, and so his his effort

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still carries on. You've got the
Harry Chapin Foundation and a number of other

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organizations that have really blossomed and work
to help fight food hunger. Yeah,

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yeah, well it's remarkable. You
want to play another Harry Chapin. Sure

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you know one thing, excuse me. One of the things that we do

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I do in the show also is
I delve into a lot of the backstories

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of the music. So it's more
than just me sitting down and rattling off

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twenty four songs. Yeah, it's
it's it's more of a lot of how

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this song was written, how it
came about this one. Harry was involved

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quite a bit with children. You
may remember, I don't know, Matt,

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you may be too young to remember. Harry's brother Tom shape and used

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to have a show on Saturday mornings
called Make a Wish. It was it

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was a children's show and he played
guitar and sang songs and it was all

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to educate children about a lot of
different subjects. Harry wrote one hundred and

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sixty songs for that show, songs
like rain and Sky and Red and Blue,

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and so he was pretty much in
tune with children and their development.

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With you will if you will at
young young age, and there's been a

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lot of studies done about how when
a child is developing early ages, you

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know, their brain has the ability
to just absorb everything and that can be

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extremely creative and artistic. But the
studies have also found out that that stops

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at a point, or at least
slows down considerably, and that's when they

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start to go to school. Why
is that because they they run into structure,

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they run into organization, they run
into rules, and that starts to

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stifle some of that creativity. Well, Harry tells the story. His story

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has been told a couple of different
ways, but he tells this story about

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how there he and his wife were
having dinner with a couple friend one night

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and the woman mentioned that her son
came home from school and on his report

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card there was a note at the
bottom that said, your son definitely marches

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to a different drummer, but don't
worry, we'll have him write in step

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with the band by the end of
the term. So Harry got a little

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ticked off at that, right,
So, and he and he wrote this

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song and it's a favorite and a
lot it was a favorite a lot of

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his shows. It's called Flowers Are
Red. All right, Wait a minute,

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Okay, there we go. We'll
get in the right key. I'm

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playing it like a playing it like
a student. Herem there we go.

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All little boy went first day of
school, got some Koreans and he started

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to draw. He could call us
all over the paper for colors was what

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he is solved? And the teachers
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I'm painting flowers, he said.
She said, it's not the time

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for our young man, and anyway, flowers are green and red. There's

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a time for everything, young man. We should be done. You got

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to show concern for everyone else or
your naughty only one. And she said,

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flowers are red, young man,
green leaves the green. There's no

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need to see flowers any all the
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seen. But the little boy said, there are so many colors in the

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rainbow, so many colors in the
morning sun, so many colors in the

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flower and I see everyone. Well. The teacher said, you're sassy.

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There's a wayse that things should be. And you'll pay flowers the way they

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are, so repeat after me,
and she said, flowers are red,

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young man, green leaves are green. No need to see flowers any all

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the way and the way they all
ways have been seen. What the little

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boys said, there are so many
colors in the rainbow, so many colors

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in the morning sun, so many
colors in the flower, and I see

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every one now. The teacher put
him in a corner. She said,

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it's for your room, good,
and you won't come out to you get

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it right, and I'll respond,
and like you should. I finally got

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lonely frightened thoughts Field is here,
and it went up to the teacher and

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this is what he said. And
he said, flowers are greed, thieves

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agree, No need to see flowers
any all the way, in the way

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they always have been seen. Now
time went by like it always does.

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They moved to another town, and
a little bar went first day of school,

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and this is what he found.
The teacher there was smiling. She

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said painting should be fun, and
there are so many colors in a flower,

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so let's use every one. But
that little war painted flower in neat

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rows of green and red. And
when the teacher asked him why, this

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is what he said, and he
said, flowers are red, green,

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leaves are green. No need to
see flowers any of the way and the

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way they always have been seen.
But you know Matt jen there must be

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some way today we can ensure that
our children can all say there are so

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the rainbowt so many colors in the
morning sun, so many colors in the

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flower and I see every one.
Very cool. Love that. Yeah,

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yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. If you're just joining us. Lou

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Antonucci is here with us, alive
in studio and playing some Harry Chapin songs.

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He's got this, uh, this
great show. I want to make

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sure, oh you me and Harry. I wanted to make sure I got

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the h the title exactly correct.
By the way. So now you were

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talking about how you know you uh
you share stories about the songs. Do

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people come up to you like after
the show and have their own Harry Chapin

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stories. Yeah, they do.
As a matter of fact. One of

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the songs I do in the show, it's a it's a fan favorite of

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Harry Harry fans. It's called Mister
Tanner. Yeah. It's about this dry

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cleaner that sings opera on this side
and he goes to New York City twice

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to try to make it make it
an opera and he gets panned both times.

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So as I and it's the true
story, And as I introduced that

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song, I ask a question rhetorically
to the audience, does anybody know who

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Martin Tuberty is? And Martin Tuberty, by the way, is the real

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mister Tanner? Okay, he's a
dry cleaner. He lives in western Connecticut,

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saying opera on the side, and
it went to New York twice to

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try to hit it big, and
Harry saw this in the paper twice and

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then wrote the song. So I
asked the question. I was up in

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Vermont, so I asked the question, does anybody know who Martin Tuberty is?

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And gentlemen in the middle of the
audience raises his hand and he goes,

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I do. And I'm figuring he's
gonna say, oh, yeah,

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he's mister Tanner of mister Tanner song, and he goes, he's my next

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door neighbor. Really, so here
this guy was. So we started chatting

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back and forth. Right then,
this guy lives in western Connecticut, but

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he was in Vermont on vacation.
Big Harry Chapin fans saw the ads for

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the show, came to the show
to see the show. And so he's

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telling me how he was. He's
been a big Harry fan and he would

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go see Harry play and he saw
Harry do this song one night and he

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says to himself that sounds like my
neighbor. Wow, you know Martin,

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And so he goes home and he
goes over to his neighbor the next day

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and says, Martin, I think
Harry Chapin has written this song about you,

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and he knew nothing about it,
and so he told him, yeah,

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you got to listen to his song. And as a matter of fact,

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it was a few years back.
Tom Chapin and the band are still

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touring and they actually invited Martin Tuberty
to come on with him to sing a

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part in one and mister Tanner that's
an operatic part. So it was really

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interesting and we chatted after the show
as well. But yeah, people will

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come up and have their own own
little stories to tell for sure. Yeah,

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yeah, that's very cool. Where
should people go online who want to

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learn more about the show and where
they can see it? I assume you

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have you have more dates beyond April
six? Oh yeah, just to mention,

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the next day is here in New
Hampshire. It's on a week from

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this Sunday. It's on April fourteenth. It's up in Bosco in New Hampshire,

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just about ten to fifteen minutes north
of Concord. Yeah, and it's

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at four o'clock in the afternoon Sunday
afternoon show. It again is a benefit

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show. It's benefiting hill DOA's food
pantry in Boscowen and we're actually doing it

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at the Bosco when the Hill Street
Congregational Church there. So it's gonna be

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I know, tomorrow's Easter, so
everybody's going to go to church on Easter,

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at least the Christians will. And
you know, maybe you can go

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to church next week too and then
stop stop in and see the show.

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But the church has got great acoustics
and again four o'clock, so come on

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out for that. But to learn
more about the show, anybody can go

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to lou Antonucci music dot com and
it's got a section on the Union Harry

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shows that are coming up and then
you can eat It even has links where

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you can buy tickets. Yeah,
for the Cadenza show, I'll mention uh,

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next Saturday, they're live streaming that
show. Cool. They're live streaming

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the show at seven pm on their
Facebook page, which is just Facebook dot

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com slash Cadenza Freeport. Okay,
all right, that's easy. And you

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know, so if you're if you're
not in Maine, which a lot of

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people aren't, you know, you
might want to live stream the show and

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check it out. Oh, excellent, outstanding, outstanding. You want to

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play another one? Sure, I'm
just gonna slide out a little bit more

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here. Yeah, yeah, don't
mind my my little flub there at the

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beginning of Flowers, I just couldn't
get my arms around the guitar here.

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Uh. This one, obviously,
this was Harry's biggest hit, okay,

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and it's one that everyone would recognize, Cat's in the Cradle, yes,

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of course. Yeah, and it's
probably done more for father son relationships,

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you know, around the globe than
anything else. It was his first big

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hit and his only really really monstrous
hit. Yeah. But the interesting thing

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that a lot of people don't know
we talked about in the show was that

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he didn't write the words to this
song. His his wife, Sandy,

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had written a poem about a relationship
between a father and his son, and

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he took that and massaged it and
turned it into what we all know as

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Cat's in the Cradle. Kidding,
Okay, So let me see if I

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can not here we go okay.
Child arrived the other day, came to

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the world in the usual way,
plans to catch and bills to pay,

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learn to walk. While I was
away, and he was talking for anew

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one as he grew, said I'm
gonna be like you, Dad. I'm

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gonna be like you, and the
cats in the cradle and the silver sworn,

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little bobble in the mine in the
morning, when you come in home

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that I don't know, when we'll
get together, and the son gonna have

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a good time. My son turned
just the other day, said thanks for

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the ball, Dad, come on, let's play. Teach me to throw

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off. Said not today, I
got a lot to do. Said that's

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okay, and then walk away.
But his smile never damned said I'm gonna

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be like him. You know,
I'm gonna be like him, and the

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cat's in the cradle, selpstone,
little bob blue and the mine and more.

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When you come in home, Dad, I don't know, And and

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he'll get together then son, we're
gonna have a good chime. Came from

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college to see you other day so
much like a man. I just had

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to see son. I'm proud of
you could just sit for a while.

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He shook his say it with a
smile. But really, like Daddy,

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is the bar of the car keys
see you leader, Can I have them

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please? And the cats in the
cradle, Silpstone, little Bob Blue and

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the mine in the mom When you're
coming home, son, I don't know

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when you'll get together. Then,
Dad, gonna have a good job.

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Man. I've long since retired.
My son has move away. Called him

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up just the other day, said
I'd like to see you if you don't

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mind. I'd love to dad,
if I could find the time. But

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you see, my new jobs a
hassle, kids with the flu. But

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Sean nice stalking to you, Dad, Sean night stalking to you. That's

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so on the phone, occurred to
me grown up, just like me,

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my boy, just like me.
And the cats in the cradle, the

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seal, the stone, little Boblu
and the man in the moon when you

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come in. So I don't know
when we'll get together. That head,

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we're gonna have a good time.
Beautiful, beautiful. That was Lou Antonucci

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doing Cats in the Cradle And he's
got to show you. Me and Harry

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And there's one coming up April sixth
and how many how many of these you

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have booked? Do you have a
quite a few of them right now?

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We've got the next four book.
We've got Maine, New Hampshire, and

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two in Pennsylvania in May. Yeah, and we're working on a show now

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in June and Massachusetts. I don't
want to say where that shet because we

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still haven't finalized. Uh, but
I look to just do probably with my

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other schedule. You know, we're
looking to do maybe two of these a

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month, Okay, okay, if
nothing else. They're rather emotionally draining,

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are they? Oh? Yeah,
doing you know, two hours worth of

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worth of his songs? Yeah?
So yeah, I like to uh just

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keeped about two two per month.
Yeah, yeah. Is is there a

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particular song that you've learned of his
that you found challenging more and more challenging

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than the others? Is there is
there one that was particularly difficult? Well,

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you know, it's interesting, there's
a lot. You know, because

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his brother Steve, who played the
piano in the band and also did all

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like a lot of the orchestration.
Is he would use a lot of orchestration

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in his songs, and for some
of his songs, the orchestration is somewhat

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of an integral part, so it's, you know, when you're just doing

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it on on acoustic guitar. A
lot of his songs are difficult. Harry

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would do a lot of finger picking. I don't do as much finger picking.

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I'll use a pick more often,
but I try to emulate as best

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I can those little nuances in the
song. So they're all, you know,

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probably one of the it's not that
they're difficult, it's that they're long.

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You know, when I look at
the songs in my show, there

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are two eight minute songs. There's
one ten minute song. Wow, two

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six minute songs. You know,
they weren't the typical three minutes on the

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radio out right. So that's the
only thing. I think. The hardest

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thing right now is, you know, remembering all the lyrics. Yeah,

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no doubt. Do you want to
get one more in? I'd love to

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hear one more How much time we
got We've got about eight minutes, okay,

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but I also want to make sure
we have time to remind everybody too

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before we wrap up about I think, uh, I know it does occur

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to me. I'm throwing I'm throwing
that at you after you were just telling

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us how long the songs are.
I'm like, oh, I wasn't thinking

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about that all that. Okay for
that, and then I'm going to do

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a six minute song for you.
Okay, Okay. Cool. The unfortunate

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thing is a great story behind it, but I won't get into this story.

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Everybody is probably familiar with Harry Chapmin's
song Taxi. Yes, all right,

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Oh you you talked about that last
time? Yeah? Yeah, And

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you know Harry, he he was
he never drove a taxi, although he

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did have a Hackney license. Yeah, and uh, he actually wrote this

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song in thinking about a past girlfriend
named Claire McIntyre. Yeah, okay,

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who unfortunately just she just passed away
about three weeks ago. Oh really,

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yeah, and she uh, she
was his girlfriend. Uh, they broke

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They broke up because she moved to
San Francisco, Okay to study music theory,

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and they just kind of faded and
he had always thought about what would

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it be like if they got back
together. So that's uh, that's how

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he That was the inspiration for writing
the song Okay, Taxi. It was

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the rain and nine in Frisco.
He didn't want more fair to make my

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name lady up a head waved,
flagging it down. She got in the

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line we had going to my lady
Blue. It's a shame you n your

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gun in the rain. She just
looked out the window. Sixteen Parkside.

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There's something about a million. I
swear i'd seen her face before. She

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said, shall be a mistake in
And she didn't say anything more. Took

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a while, but she looked in
the mirror. Then she glanced at the

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license for my name. A smile
seemed to come to her slowly or sad

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smile to see and she said,
how are you are? I said,

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how are you soon? It was
it too many miles, too little smile,

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I stie, remember you said,
was somewhere in a fairy table.

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Used to take her home in my
car. We learned about love in the

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back of a Dodge lesson. I
hadn't gone to Fu. She was going

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to be an actress. I was
gonna learn to fly. She took off

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to find the footplights. I took
off to find the sky. Why I've

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got something inside me to drive the
princess lie, there's a while an wizard

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hiding in me, illuminating my mind. Oh, I've got something inside me

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now what my die is about beside, let my outside tide me over till

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my time walk. Give you this
sword that she's skying. Yes, she's

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flying creative fall. I'll tell you
why. Yes, gosh, she's just

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aren't we all? There was not
much more for us to talk about.

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Whatever we'd had once was gone.
So I turned my cab into the driveway,

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asked the gate in the fine triven
long, and she said we must

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get together. But I knew it'd
never be range mention and mid twenty dollars

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for us who fifteth there, said
Harry, keep the change. What another

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man might have been, another man
might have been hurt, another man never

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to let her go. Ustashed the
building my shirt, and she walked to

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in silence. It's strange high you
never know, but we both gotten what

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we asked for such a long,
long time ago. She was gonna be

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an actress. I was going to
learn to fly. She took off the

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five of footlight. I took off
to find the sky. He she's acting

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happy inside of handsome hall. Me
I'm flying in the tax taking tips and

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getting stone. I go fly.
So when on stone, beautifully done,

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Lou Antonucci, thank you so much
wonderful to have you here. Don't forget

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you Me and Harry. It's a
one man show that Lou is doing.

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And this is going to be the
next one's April sixth at seven pm at

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Cadenza in Freeport, Maine, and
that's going to be streaming at Facebook dot

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com slash Cadenza Freeport correct correct very
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Very good, very good. Thank
you so much for coming in and

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00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:15,679
playing for us. This has been
amazing. Thanks for having you for sire

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J E N N C O F
f e y dot com. I've

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been a bit busy. Yes you
have, Yes you have, and if

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you missed any part of today's show
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dot com. And thanks everybody,
Thanks everybody in the chatroom, Lou,

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thank you again, and uh we
will uh we will talk at y'all next

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week. Bye for now, Bye,
