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Oh hello, I didn't see you
there. Welcome to Blurry Photos. I'm

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David Florida and I am David Stecco, and welcome back. For those of

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you who are coming back from all
the amazing podcasts that we have put out

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there so far, You're so glad
there's another one for you to listen to.

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I am excited as I always am, because the music that we have

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for this podcast makes it sound like
you and I dive through windows and kick

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indoors insert like literally chasing ghosts that
I'm trying to go through, like warp

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zones and things sliding across seventy eight
buicks, driving through alleys where a guy's

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moving a sheet of glass. So
so yeah, And if you haven't,

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if this is the first time for
you joining us, then go back and

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listen to some of brother other stuff. Oh yeah, it'll be fall.

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It's gonna be great. Anything exciting
having to you this week? Stark?

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Uh, you know what I have
been. I've been working, as I

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mentioned last week, tirelessly on my
Halloween costume right right, which I am

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very excited about. And I am
I'm just enjoying the fall. Yeah,

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it's it's so nice out I hate
summer. I hate it. I hate

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Earth's yellow sun. It weakens me. And the fall is when are you

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narrow, Superman? Yeah, when
I think with just just just bizarrow,

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Yeah, I'm I'm of the same. I cannot stand summer whatsoever. I

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hate the heat. I love fall, and I love winter. So I'm

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getting very excited with October and everything. It's it's just an amazing time of

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the year. October is a great
month. It's full of all kinds of

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the best holiday of the year.
Yeah, exactly, I mean. And

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in addition to my birthday, there's
also a holiday called Halloween. Did you

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know that is there? Were you
waiting? Were you just referring to my

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birthday is the best holiday of the
year? Or no, that that I

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would refer to a stecko miss oh
nice? Yes, where I ride from

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rooftop to rooftop visiting children in their
dreams. But yes, longer recognized as

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a holiday. Not not in the
forty eight states. It's Alaska for hanging

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time. So yeah, October.
October is a great month. And we

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are continuing on our theme month,
which which is everything that has to do

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with with Halloween and things of that
that you think of when when you when

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you think of that. Yeah,
and we still was still looking for a

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name for what to call October because
blank October it's really gets it's winning because

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it's getting used. It's winning because
that's all there is. We've tried some

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others and they they've filled miserably.
So again, if if you've got to

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if you've got a good fill in
the blank for our blank Tober, send

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it in. Listen. I'm not
going to ask you to do a lot

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of work on our behalf. I
mean, the pendulum for entertainment swings solely

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from us to you, right,
But if maybe maybe you've enjoyed listening,

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maybe this is that little thing I'm
not We're not going to ask you for

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money unless you want to give it
to us, in which case you can.

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But we've got a form you can, we can get hiped up that

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way. Just do it. But
but if you don't want to give us

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money, which I don't blame you. Yeah, I'm sitting here and I

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don't want to give us money,
you could give us a name for for

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October, not Noctober. Yeah,
unless you really just want to start a

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campaign to add Blanktober to the list
of shirts that we make. Don't don't

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do that. So today our topic
for Blanktober is going to be superstition.

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That's right, magnificent superstitions. We
are going to go over some of the

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history, some some of the popular
superstitions where they came from a little bit

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of the science. There's science or
superstition. There's definitely science in there.

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There's a little bit of disease and
superstitions. There's there's a little bit of

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foreboding and Zubert, there's If we
keep going, we're gonna sound like Dolleks,

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pretty exdaminate. That's our Halloween podcast. That's all. We're doing the

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whole Halloween podcast as Dolleks. You'll
turn it off in ten second. Originally

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we were gonna be all scary Victor
Price voices, but nope, Dolle's no

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sorry, Vincent Price, I Mary
Naha. Okay, that's enough of that,

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all right, Okay, so superstitions. Let's let's get into this a

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little bit. By the end of
this podcast, hopefully you're well versed on

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on superstitions and we can add to
your psychological burden. And then and then

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at the end um you can send
us some of your favorite superstitions that that

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we don't cover, which we probably
won't because there is a ton of superstitions

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out there. I'm holding in my
hand an entire dictionary of them. So

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know that know that there's there's some
literature here. There's there's plenty of literature.

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And they repeat often, but just
as often as they repeat, I

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feel like they jump from one thing
to another. Would you say that that's

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true? You don't know what I
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Okay, I'm glad I called it. I consequently refuted my own all

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right, Well, okay, so
let's let's go on and jump in superstitions.

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Now, there's a couple of definitions
I'm going to throw at you here,

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because just like superstitions, no two
definitions for it are like again,

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I just refuted what I just said
to two minutes ago. But here's the

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first one for you. A superstition
is a belief or practice resulting from ignorance,

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fear of the unknown, trust in
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conception of causation. It's an avely
negative definition, although I will say that

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after ignorance, everything else is just
redundant. It's true, bad, bad,

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bad resulting from ignorance. The second, the second definition I've got is

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a belief that one event leads to
the cause of another without any physical process

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linking the two events, such as
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That they contradict natural science. Now, is there is there sort of

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an inherent caveat to that where like
how I said, that's there an inherent

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caveat to that wherein a person it
feels like they control things. Is it

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more active like or is it was? It was it kind of like like

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a vote of sorts, like,
well, it still may not go in

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my way, but I'm doing my
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get this outcome that I want.
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Both of those I think are viable
for this because when you get down

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to its superstition is is nothing more
than than just some some junk that somebody

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believes that has no basis for money
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basis is kind of supernatural. Yeah, yeah, or or just I mean,

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or it's it's a way of explaining
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keep them. When I think superstitions, I think of like like dude superstitions

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like dude, I'm not gonna shave
for the playoffs. Yeah, I'm not

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gonna change myself. Yeah I'm not. Yeah. And those are things that

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dudes don't want to do anyway,
and then they just find a reason they

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say, no, no, this
is about winning. I didn't want to

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I'm not gonna do laundry till we
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that you just got dude yellow carded. Oh dude card m just it's

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it's unprobable. I don't want to
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Oh but yeah, the well we'll
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about that. But what you just
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observed and uh, and we'll talk
about that soon. But this is Superstitions

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generally are stem from a reverence for
things like omens and charms, symbols,

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rituals, things like that, and
the word superstition is often used negatively.

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It's it's a majority of type word
if it's not connected, especially to the

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society's prevailing really or if it's not
connected to Stevie Wonder, because that is

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a jam. It is a jam. It's it's it's pretty superstition. It's

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a great song, and if you
try to look anything up online you are

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going to get slammed with Stevie Wonder. See, we've done all the work

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for you. We've waited hip deep
through an ocean of Stevie Wonder of Billy,

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ocean of Steve. You are on
point and not well. Um,

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yeah, and that's I think that
that's sort of common sense. Like,

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if your people don't do it,
then it's it's probably something that you're gonna

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call right stupid or or silly,
you know. But if it's something that

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that you've grown up on and practice
doing ritualistically, yeah, it's it's something

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that means a lot to you.
You know. Yeah. People will make

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fun of people who face Mecca to
pray, but will also send okay,

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now let's pray before we eat,
right right, something like that. Yeah.

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I do consider religion and superstition to
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it's out there. You are an
eighteenth century enlightened whoa I'm gonna die of

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diphtheria. Show us that enlightenist because
that's a word. Let's talk about the

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roots of superstition. The word superstition
has its roots in the Latin superstitezeo,

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which is and comes from the first
century BC. As a it's an excessive

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fear of the gods or unreasonable religious
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I couldn't get through that without sounding
like frigd Mario. Well here, I

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wish, I wish we we recorded
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that. But because the hand emotions
that go with your Latin I could almost

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see that spicy meat, the ball
in your hands. So religio religious in

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the proper reasonable awe of the gods. Uh so, so yeah, it's

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it goes as far back, you
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the first century will BC, and
it was it was used to describe the

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outlaw religions of the Roman Empire,
like the druids, and cults that they

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had, like the orphic mysteries,
the cult of ices, and and there's

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a they had a cult on every
corner back. But but isn't that I

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mean, like, this is one
of those interesting things that you're The place

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that you find it in history is
entirely dependent on your definition of it.

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You know, you can you know, obviously the romans determine what is superstition,

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Like you said, like it's a
it's a religious centric view, you

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know, like, well there's there's
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the weirdos. Yeah, but I
mean you you imagine um even you know,

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going far back to like like loose
tribal associations. You know, if

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if you don't have reverence for the
for their religious beliefs, then they're all

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superstitions. Yeah, you know,
and you wonder how many of those things

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started out as an actual historical process. The thing that I'm thinking of any

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for example, is hanta virus,
weirdly in the Four Corners disease that came

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up in the nineties. Um,
hantavirus is a pulmonary syndrome and you get

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it through inhaling dried rodent urine.
The crystallized you're in. The virus is

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in there, it gets into your
lungs and it infects you. And they

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when this thing cropped up in the
mid nineties, everyone flipped down, Oh

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there's some so, some new virus
that's killing people in the Four Corners.

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But this thing had been around forever. It was just a statistical anomaly that

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a few people had died within a
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when they when they did for the
research, you know, months and months

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down the line, they realized that
most Native American populations in the area had

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some larger explanation of this. Oh, when there's a wet spring, people

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will die in the in the fall, and it was because a wet spring

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led to more pinion nuts, which
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to a larger incidence of dried rodent
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people would die. And you could
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it's actually just sort of a masked
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So that's that's kind of an interesting
thing. Like wives tales have figure

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heavily into superstition and myths, yeah, to you know, all myths are

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are ways of explaining things that aren't
that that that people just haven't figured out

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scientifically, you know, how to
how to explain what was it called again,

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the haunt of virus liminary syndrome,
the official virus of Halloween. It's

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not that fun. A lot of
people are dying right now from it.

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Haunt of virus man. I hadn't
heard of that, and then and still

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going on, Oh yeah, it's
still it still kills people all crazy.

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So this was going going on back
back in the Roman Empire, and apparently

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Pagans around Greece and Rome would mock
anyone who acted with the fear of the

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gods and trembled all the time,
you know, don't don't want to displease

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Jupiter. And they they in a
sense were they were using superstition as as

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a negative that that was the that
was superstition to them. This this illogical

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fear was was what they considered superstitious. And then the Rome, the you

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know, the Romans or whatever they
believe that the Pagans thought thought that Pagans

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were superstitious for what they were doing, dancing in the wooden stuff. So

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so you got two groups of people
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are superstitious pretty much. So then
we fast forward a little bit to our

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friend Martin Luther. And then he
has come up before, and he in

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the early sixteenth century, he went
so far as to accuse the popes of

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superstitious practices, among other things.
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the Antichrist. He was saying the
popes who were using superstition in a way,

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and you know, fleecing people of
their money and stuff through that and

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using ritual and things like that,
So should mention. Currently, the Catholic

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Church considers superstition to be sinful because
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divine providence of God. So you
can be superstitious if you are not superstitious

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enough right in the right direction,
if you're practicing your own religions rituals,

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it's not superstition. It's rituals and
tradition and beliefs. But the guy across

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the streets that you know burns sage
in front of the door is a superstitious

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nut and also probably a hippie,
which is worse. You tell us,

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So let's get into talking about this, the scientific stuff with it and the

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psychology. Yeah, which I like
the scientific definition a lot more because like

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most sting scientific it makes sense.
It makes sense. It's it's not it's

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not recursive, it doesn't. The
definition doesn't change based on who's saying it,

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and that's important, Tony, I
agree. So why don't you hit

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us, hit us with the science? Well, in this. This is

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even in the twentieth century, the
psychologists be of Skinner had a theory regarding

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superstition because of the observations that he
had of pigeons behavior when they were being

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fed. And and this, this
is this is pretty interesting. I don't

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know how closely we can draw a
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pigeons could correlate a little bit with
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humans, and the same things that
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that that humans did in a way. So here's here's what happened when they

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were being fed, or when they
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of them would turn around in their
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head back and forth, and they
a bunch of they just did a bunch

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of of just weird movements and videosyncratic
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this they might be doing this to
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was time for them to be fed
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to do their their movements and things, and they did it incessantly until they

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got fed. So he basically theorized
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believed they just did a little harder, their actions were causing them to be

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fed. Yeah, and if and
if they weren't getting it, they weren't

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doing it the actions correctly. So
so yeah, if they if they did

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a little harder, faster, better, stronger than than, they would have

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a remergence in the two thousands.
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that subsequently, you know, years
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mister skinners observation and where he went
with it, even going so far in

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some cases as too to maybe the
point the superstition stick at him. Oh

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no, you know, And I
guess that's what happens when you tackle a

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subject like this. It's too easy
to get tired with it. But what

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I what I like about the central
crux of the scientific definition being just that,

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you know, one event leads the
cause of another without any physical process

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linking the two events, just that
that A can be affected by B even

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though they don't touch, they don't
do any have anything to do with each

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other. And then A does something
to see you know, and there's a

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pumpkin in there, right, Uh, if you imagine pumpkin and gord of

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some sort um and it and it
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up a lot. And you wonder
in Skinner's experiment if he did control well

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enough for what would just be a
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And but it's it's an interesting point
that that you have that he brings up

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with this this intermittent conditioning, this
idea that every time you hit the feeder

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bar, you don't always get the
pellet, But will you always hit the

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feeder bar in the same way at
the same time if I you know,

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if it's if it's not a guarantee, how far can I push you as

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a person or a lab animal in
your behavior to get that pellet? Like

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just what you said? Do you
do it bigger, better, faster,

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more like? And I believe that
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underlies a lot of superstitions. Yeah, it rears its ugly head in sports

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today especially you know, baseball players. They'll, like we mentioned earlier,

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some of them if if they have
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their socks and they wear them again, you know, so in the hopes

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that they will have another huge game
and it they'll continue that because of maybe

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some some good luck that that's coming
from these socks for some reason or another.

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Yeah, and it's amazing and without
and I think people who are superstitious

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do the least amount of looking into
it, which I think is a part

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of it. You know. It's
it's the way. It's the way successful

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religion incorporates um spreading the word and
an idea like superstition. It is bad

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luck to look into it too much. I mean, it's it's a it's

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a great it's a great mechanism for
an idea to take hold of. Ye.

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And so these people, they're not
terribly self examining about it. But

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this this belief that, oh well, I was just going along my merry

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way and I had somehow arranged everything
in my life, the socks that I'm

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wearing, the degree of facial hair
that I have, the color of my

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shirt, and everything turned out perfect. If I can just keep all the

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switches in the same position, all
the knobs and levers in my life,

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I will continue to enjoy this.
Yeah. Yeah, And then it's funny

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and it's like you said, they're
they're blaming C on A or they're blaming

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C on like infinity symbol. Smiley
has nothing to do with winky face,

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the crab that marches side to side. So I briefly mentioned this earlier.

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But the eighteenth century we had the
Age of Enlightenment, right um, And

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that's that's basically when when science started
to really take a foothold and start examining

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the cause of you know, a
lot of the phenomenon that we see and

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the way we think and all that
good stuff. It was. It was

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glorious, but they also that made
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that it made them ridicule the belief
in miracles and revelation, magic, supernatural,

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that sort of stuff that when the
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the supernatural was kind of pushed to
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and this included superstitions and stuff.
Now, superstitions were still considered it it

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was still considered a derogatory term for
a belief. But once people started looking

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into customs and and things that that
certain civilizations and people had in terms of

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tradition, then they started saying,
well, let's let's not call these superstitions

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because this is uh, it's it's
rude, you know, to say this

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about people when this is how they've
acted all along, right, So let's

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let's call them folk beliefs. So
that's that's where the term folk belief comes

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from. Just it's the it's the
regional religious customs of an organized religion that's

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outside of the doctrine of that that
religion. But still are are things that

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that people do and actions that they
perform in stuff they could be considered superstitions.

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But again, since it was since
they were practices that that people have

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always done and really revered, they
hit him with that term the folk beliefs,

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which which is awfully you know,
like I guess you know for the

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time, that's that's is accepting.
I mean it is the term folk belief

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is kind of a belittling a little
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if the if it's that or or
repent your pagan ways, I guess fopefully

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is pretty good. Yeah, yeah, you're you're dancing around the bonfires,

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idiotic idiotic idiots to look at them
dance around the fire like their traditions,

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say, with their folk beliefs,
so much better and they always said it

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that way, Yeah, the flat
folk. So that's I mean up until

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now today, I feel like superstition
is still it has some of that derogatory

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meaning, but it's it's a little
bit more widely accepted and kind of brush

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to the side or like, oh
yeah, that's just a superstition. Yeah,

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it's I think I think for the
most part, I think it's very

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it's very tongue in cheek, you
know, like actors break a leg,

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Yeah, that kind of thing,
Like I break a leg, you know.

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But on the other hand, how
often in your regular life do you

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say, well, I don't want
to jinx it. Yeah, you know,

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like people they're like these things still
doesn't matter. I'm like, I

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consider myself ought to be a pretty
rational guy, which is probably a mistake.

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But but yeah, like the phrase
I don't want to jinx it,

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Like I say that, I mean
it, like, oh I want to

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say that out loud. It's gonna
jinx the whole thing, you know,

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right, I mean, everybody,
at some point or another, I'm sure,

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has has performed some kind of little
superstitious act or gotten all crazy excited

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when they find a four leaf clover
or something. Yeah. I think there's

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just that that piece of people that
know they're not in control but desperately want

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to at least create this illusion of
some modicum of control. I like that.

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I like that you keep coming back
to that because that's something that I

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don't see often in in the research
that that I was doing on it and

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have seen, is that people.
I think, I agree that that people

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want some control in their life,
and that's why some of these are are

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performed, some of these actions and
gestures that the charms that people wear,

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things like that. It's a little
bit of having control role in a chaotic

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system. And I think that makes
a little more sense to me than just

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a conditioned response to something. Yeah. Yeah, And I think that that's

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the the evolution of it. I
mean, there's so many things that we

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that we kind of have quaintly,
like the groom carries the bride over the

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threshold, Yeah, you know,
black cats, walking under ladders. I

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walk under ladders all the time,
and I do it because because it's well,

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I mean, I bet to that
superstitions because people used to get their

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heads cracked by things falling from people
on ladders. But you know, it's

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it bothers me that it bothers me
because you know, like for for work,

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sometimes I have to walk under a
ladder and the whole time I'm doing

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it, there's a part in my
brain that's screaming. You know, those

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those things once you it's like when
you're a kid, and like that's superstitions

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to a child are kind of like
the first science we learn rabbit's feet and

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you know, touch blue, make
it true, and and things like that.

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That's like the first set of scientific
tools. These are the tools with

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which we understand our world and interact
with And there's that. I think that

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your brain retains some of that.
But no matter how much you know that,

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you're not doing anything. I guarantee
once a week a person will be

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walking down the sidewalk and be like, oh, they'll just do that little

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extra step to get over the crack. And part of it, I think

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also comes from the fact that they
can't be necessarily disproven either, you know,

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yeah, yeah, that's and that's
the beauty of it. You can't

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because there's another superstition that clearly had
sway over that situation, a stronger superstition,

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yeah, a megastition. You also
get the whole thing. Where as

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as technology evolves, and as as
the world you know, hopefully if evolves

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or things change from one thing to
another, you get a transformation of superstition

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as well. And I'm thinking of
the just the ritual of blowing into the

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Nintendo cartridge before you put it in. Yeah, Nintendo, you know,

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even though I just I'm sure that
that did nothing, but you do it.

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But then if and if it didn't
work, if if it you kept

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getting that blue or green screen flashing
on there, you took it out and

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you blew harder. Yes, you're
like, because that's all you can do.

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You don't have that weird screwdriver that
you used to put those things together,

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so there's nothing you can do.
And people, you know, and

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it's even the way people deal with
say their computers or their cars. People

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have no idea what's going on inside
their cars or their computers. They just

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know like, oh, when it
does this, I do this, and

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then it doesn't do that for a
while, Right, I mean that that

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that's that's superstition, but it is
reproducible. Yeah, there's something in what

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they're doing that is affecting that thing, and they are fine with never knowing

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how those two things are linked,
which I guess technically given the scientific definition,

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because the two things are in fact
linked, then it's not a superstition.

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But it's also easier for them.
Yeah, why you don't have to

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know everything if you just know the
weird things. But then people have all

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kinds of superstitions about technology that don't
mean anything. I mean, one could

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one could argue that, you know, cell phones giving you brain cancer maybe

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superstition, maybe maybe maybe fact.
I mean there's stuff like that. It's

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like, well, you get plenty
of articles that say it does, plenty

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of articles that say it doesn't.
So then you're left basically with is it

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a superstition? You know? Is
it? Oh? I've got a great

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one. I've got a great example
of a scientific superstition. Vaccines cause autism

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that has been disproven every eight hundred
ways from Sunday from Hell to breakfast.

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Vaccines cause autism. There was a
scientist who back in the late nineties claimed

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that he that vaccines were responsible for
the rise in autism and children and unborn

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children like if the mother got vaccinated
or if the child got vaccinated after they

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were born, Okay, and then
he was at the University of Utah.

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But they this guy did this research, said, oh, they causes,

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there's a link here. No scientist
was ever, he had a press conference

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before his work was peer reviewed.
The peer review was like, wait a

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minute, none of this works right. You doctored these these results, You

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had selected your your test subjects.
Oh, you messed with your You made

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this up. He completely made it
up because he had a large amount of

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money in the vaccine industry. Of
all things, in specific in specific areas,

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the vaccine industry that would have done
well with this. Shocking And to

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this day there is a huge right
now, there's a huge rise in things

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like measles, mumps. Uh,
these are things that you and I were

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vaccinated against. But there's a huge
There was almost a generation of moms who

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were afraid to vaccinate their kids.
And it's and it persists based on this

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one guy and his terrible scientific hopes. Wow. And and to this day

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there are still people like no,
no, no, I heard that that

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does give gives you autism. We're
not going to do that. That that's

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a great example of a superstition.
Hmm. Yeah. It's it's scary now

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that that people are and who Who's
to say that some of these superstitions of

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old weren't born out of you know, someone's greed of the day, you

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know, something that would benefit them
or something absolutely, you know, if

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you don't have cracker Jack's at the
ball game, a team's gonna lose.

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I don't know if that ever they
ever used that, but they should have.

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But I guess, I guess The
point is that we're not above it.

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We don't live in we're not back
star trek where we look back on

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the problems of history and just tut
tut tut you poor Bastard's like, we

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are still neck deep in it.
We are just as inclined to believe and

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generate news superstitions. True, true, And like I said way back at

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the beginning, the things that make
up superstitions are things like omens, charms,

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rituals, things like that. I'll
briefly go through a few of these.

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And omen is a phenomenon that's believed
to foretell the future. And it

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can be good or bad. For
example, um, seeing a comment can

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can be good for somebody bad for
somebody else. In particular, Haley's comment

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they believed was bad for King Harold
the second in England, but seeing Haley's

403
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:48.559
comment later was a good sign for
William the Conqueror apparently so Omens. It's

404
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.960
all in how you who you are, how you view it's a great superstition.

405
00:31:55.319 --> 00:32:00.319
Yeah, charms are are a popular
thing even today. I would say

406
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.640
a charm is something that's worn or
carried on one's person for its supposed magical

407
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.759
effect. And this includes things like
amulets, talisman and they're they're usually one

408
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:14.319
for for protection of something or another
there. Yeah, usually they confer some

409
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.759
positive benefit. Yeah, in some
cases they don't. Some cases they are

410
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.000
a cursed themselves. I mean I
know exactly. For there's one specifical apricon

411
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.960
who is being hounded by children to
the ends of the earth, and he

412
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:31.319
has several lucky charms. But you
just please give them back together, just

413
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:36.599
give them back to the pork kids
are not gonna give up them. Give

414
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:44.720
this guy his lucky charms back for
the love pick. Yeah, and he's

415
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:50.039
getting so much bad luck and evil
coming into his life, right, just

416
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.160
let the kids have those damn charms. Want a bunch of dicks, man,

417
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:59.920
But yeah, they they include things
like gems and coins, pendants,

418
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.319
rings, statues. For example,
one charm that that's probably pretty well known.

419
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.079
How about a crucifix. That's it's
something that that wards off evil.

420
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:12.279
It stands for you know, uh, stands for what it stands for,

421
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.799
but it is what it is.
But yeah, yeah, that that's to

422
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:21.480
ward off evil, especially vampires,
if you if you go down that path.

423
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.519
For four leaf clover is a popular
charm. The hams at hand is

424
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:30.640
a popular popular charm. Um pretty
much anything a ring of protection plus one.

425
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:36.599
That's that's okay to get if you're
if you're a low level that's all

426
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.480
right. Well I'll get you on
the road. I mean whatever starts and

427
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:45.799
then and then you've got your your
rituals and traditions that you following, which

428
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:51.400
is ritual is a set of actions
performed to satisfy an obligation or need.

429
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.680
Uh. And I'm thinking of tossing
a pinch of salt over your left shoulder.

430
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.920
We'll get into this in a little
bit, uh, specifically salt.

431
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.119
But can you think of any other
rituals that people might do? Oh um,

432
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.840
see now this is like rituals is
a particularly to me interesting part of

433
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:15.559
the of the umbrella of superstitions because
rituals, especially just like your definition.

434
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.880
Just know, a spot on is
almost interchangeable for like to my mind,

435
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.119
like a OCD. Oh sure,
yeah, physical actions that you have to

436
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:28.199
perform to satisfy a need right right, you know, if you touch something

437
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.840
left hand, touch at right hand, if you turn right, turn left,

438
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.679
you know, if you to establish
balance or to scratch that itch.

439
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.559
Yeah. Yeah, And it's and
it's interesting because it turns out science,

440
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:44.400
I mean, like psychologists have looked
into this and they don't consider they think

441
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:50.400
that a lot of symptoms of OCD
mimic superstitions, and there might even be

442
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.480
some attempt on the part of perhaps
a patient. Patient doesn't want to say

443
00:34:54.519 --> 00:35:00.800
I have OCD, but they will
say they're superstitious, and then further investigation

444
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.280
and therapy brings out no, or
you know, like, oh, they

445
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.079
actually do have these compulsive disorders.
This isn't something they're doing because they want

446
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:08.400
to have a better day. Yeah, they're doing it because they can't not

447
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:13.400
do it right, And so they're
actually very specific to say no, they're

448
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.360
they're they're there. They do have
some some similar appearances, but they are

449
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.239
very very different things. And you
and you know, just as OCD is

450
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.840
an obsessional, compulsive, that kind
of thing that you have to do,

451
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:35.599
whereas I almost view rituals and superstitions
superstitions they're kind of like a cosmic have

452
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.920
a penny, leave a penny jar, Like, oh, if you know,

453
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.639
if you've got the opportunity to knock
on wood when all the numbers and

454
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.440
the clock are the same. Have
you ever heard of that before? Because

455
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.440
there was a kid when I was
growing up who said, oh, it's

456
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:52.039
lucky if you knock on wood when
it's eleven eleven or three thirty three.

457
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.920
To this day, I'll do it. That little jackass made that up.

458
00:35:55.719 --> 00:36:01.280
I can tell you that right now. I'm coming after you. But I

459
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:06.960
think that's that isn't important to point
out a superstition. I feel like it's

460
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:14.119
something that you consciously do in order
to effect an outcome, whereas OCD is

461
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.440
something that that you you do with
no control. Right, and the two

462
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:22.679
harness and musually exclusive. It's not
like you can't be both, but the

463
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:28.000
specific um activities usually boil down to
different camps, even in your own mind

464
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.800
if you don't see it that way, the pressure, the desire to perform

465
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:35.760
those two different kinds of actions a
small like you said, pinch over your

466
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.440
shoulder versus having to wash your hands
five times a day. You know.

467
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:44.639
Well, so yeah, cool,
that's a that's a great point. Let's

468
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:50.840
uh, let's jump into the top
ten superstitions. I found a site nice

469
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.679
that that had that listed the top
ten is it was like top ten of

470
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:58.079
twenty twelve. It was a time, not of twenty twelve. It was

471
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.400
the website was um top ten worldwide
or something like that. I think dot

472
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:07.559
com, we'll trust them. It's
I mean, until we're given reason not

473
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:12.960
to. Who knows. There's a
lot of sites that do list superstitions.

474
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:19.519
Few of them put them in an
order, but you have the courage to

475
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.960
rank them and hit them against each
other. So coming in at number ten,

476
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:28.400
according to this side, coming in
at number ten was spilling salt.

477
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.519
So I'll quickly go through this um. Spilling salt is said to arouse evil,

478
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:43.079
evil spirits, arouse them, arouse
them. Salt was obviously a value,

479
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.719
valuable commodity back in the day,
and it was also used in exorcism

480
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:52.360
and for protection from evil. That's
some thought that where where that comes from

481
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.119
the idea that that's spilling it you
know is I can't use it anymore.

482
00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:01.840
But one explanation is that Judas overturned
the salt seller at the last supper.

483
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.559
Oh so it's it's bad form,
Peter Pan to spill any salt as an

484
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.159
antidote. Tossing a pinch over your
left shoulder will drive away the devil who

485
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.360
is lurking there basically with the sinister
shoulder right right, the angels on the

486
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:21.719
right shoulder. Devil's on the left
shoulder and not according to the evan to

487
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:34.280
the advice I've been getting lately,
Gosh, we'll see the devil soon,

488
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.760
I'm sure. Yeah, but yeah, throwing salt. Here's one for you.

489
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:44.320
Throwing salt after someone leaves your house
who's just visited, said to ensure

490
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.480
that they do not return for a
long time. I will see if that

491
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:53.880
works on who I'm not saying.
There's also a German belief that a girl

492
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:58.280
who neglects to put the salt on
the table in the first place is revealing

493
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:04.599
the fact that she is no longer
a chairmans, we're hot. That is

494
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:10.920
like a to a hand printed three
year old turkey picture, like that a

495
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.239
to a hand printed tree, not
a to b but a to something so

496
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:21.599
far I see beyond. So if
you forget the salt, you've been doing

497
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:27.360
things. You've been down in the
TNT area of point pleasant. Nice.

498
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:34.280
That's really good. That was great, that was completely yeah yeah, so

499
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.960
yeah, so that's salt. That's
salt. Number nine. Wishbones. Oh

500
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:43.639
yeah. The wishbone is a bone
that lies between the foul's neck and breast,

501
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.599
and when it's dried and pulled between
two people so that it breaks,

502
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:53.199
the person holding the larger piece is
granted a wish. But you can't laugh,

503
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:59.079
talk, or reveal the secret while
you're pulling or after or you can't

504
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.440
reveal it afterwards. But while you're
pull pulling, you can't laugh or talk

505
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:06.599
or else it's nullified. WHOA,
I've never heard the laughing or talking thing,

506
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.719
which explains why so many of mine
wishes were unfulfilled growing up, because

507
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:14.679
it was like a throwdown, Like
we had sides of the family shouting encouragement.

508
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:19.559
Everyone's screaming as he pulled the wishbone. That's it, man. No.

509
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.880
Traditionally it may have roots in the
resemblance of a horseshoe, which is

510
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:28.440
also a lucky charm. So that's
that's the wishbone. Number eight. The

511
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.639
rabbit's foot, pretty common one.
Yeah, I think everyone's uh, if

512
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.400
they haven't owned one, they've seen
one on a key chain. I think

513
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.039
we're a little too animal friendly these
days to have those. But I remember

514
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.199
growing up. Those things were everywhere. I used to get them out of

515
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:46.840
the little quarter machines, like you
know, outside of a Walmart. And

516
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:53.280
I'm sure they weren't real. I
hope they were. They were real.

517
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.920
They had fingernails and everything. AU
guess you had these had fingernails too,

518
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.840
but they were they were dyed.
These upid colors, bright blue, bright

519
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:06.920
red. But anyway, rabbit's foot's
supposed to bring exceptional good luck if if

520
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.440
it's worn around the neck on a
chain, or if fits carried in your

521
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:15.119
left pocket. They're ideally I like
this, hang onto this one. They're

522
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:20.440
ideally made from the left hind leg
of a rabbit killed by a cross eyed

523
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.360
man in the light of a full
moon. Why you ask that one?

524
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:30.559
I love all of that, Maybe
both. I'm going out to make lucky

525
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:37.639
rabbits. Oh, the door artist, you can't shoot that crossbow. He

526
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:43.360
has a crossbow because he's cross eyed. That what this joke. That's gotta

527
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.480
be extra I mean, how else
is he killing them? If you got

528
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:50.559
a cross eyed man? Yes,
he shoots a crossbow. That's why they're

529
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.119
called crossbow. Has all kinds of
crosses hanging in his house. That's right

530
00:41:53.519 --> 00:42:00.440
by a rail road crossing during the
days at crossing guard. And he loves

531
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:09.360
Crosby stillson, We're we're the worst
kind of people. Oh, we look

532
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:16.800
forward to your hate mail mail.
Are you going to extror? Oh man?

533
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:22.960
If terror wasn't the right word,
and you're a terror. So witches

534
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:29.079
are said to favor rabbits as disguises
or familiars, which is which leads to

535
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:34.599
the belief of their supernatural qualities for
having the foot. So that's uh,

536
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:38.039
that's number eight. Number seven.
You care to guess what number seven might

537
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.519
come in? I didn't. I
wanted to. I was gonna cheat.

538
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.320
Let's see, Um, I just
I don't. I don't even begin to

539
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:52.400
know. Carrying the bride across the
threshold. No ladders, oh man,

540
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.840
yep, walking under a ladder's bad
luck? Right now? This, um,

541
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.400
this has a couple of different origins
that it could be from. I'm

542
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:05.920
sure all of these have a thousand
places they probably are derived from. But

543
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:12.280
um, for ladders, it could
be that ladders that were leaned against a

544
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.960
wall formed a triangle, which is
the sign of the Holy Trinity. And

545
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:19.840
you don't want to walk through the
middle of the Holy Trinity because it's disrespectful

546
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.280
to Jesus and all the babies.
I would have thought that it would be

547
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:28.039
like you just get covered in trinity, Like that's a good thing, like

548
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:36.800
from the matrix. That's the best
thing. Oh man, So don't don't

549
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:38.280
can diffuse me, like all right, all right, but yeah, that

550
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.400
is the best thing, if you
can get covered by the Trinity, whether

551
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:47.440
holy or leather class the other the
other origin for it, and this is

552
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.800
the one I like. Criminals used
to be hanged from the top rung of

553
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:57.000
a ladder that was leaned up against
the crux of a tree when there wasn't

554
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.679
a suitable gallows or maybe a limb
that they could hang from, and so

555
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:07.840
their spirit then lingered underneath the ladder. And that's why you didn't want to

556
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.239
You don't want to stir them up
when you walked underneath a ladder. That's

557
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.000
pretty cool, huh, Yeah,
I like that. I mean I can

558
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.960
understand that there's a lurking spirit.
Yeah, yeah, of a criminal.

559
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.480
No less you think they don't get
better once you kill them. They don't

560
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.559
learn. So number six, what
do you think Number six is? I'm

561
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:35.440
gonna go with rally caps broken mirrors. Breaking a mirror calls a seven years

562
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.800
of bad luck. Now, mirrors
were thought to be the images of the

563
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:45.519
soul, a reflection of your soul. It was obviously bad form to break

564
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.360
your soul up, and don't do
it. But to keep your luck,

565
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.119
here's what you could do. Wait
for seven hours before you're picking up the

566
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.880
pieces, one hour for every year
of bad luck, and then you can

567
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.199
bury them on sacred ground in the
moon or throw them in a swift moving

568
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.920
river. I'm gonna go with the
river because that's just easier. You have

569
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:07.639
to do that at in the moon
light. Or yeah, just throw them

570
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:13.440
in a swift flowing reverse stream.
But yeah, I mean that that's nearest.

571
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:19.639
I've always been kind of a mystifying
thing for people and cultures, people

572
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:28.639
who are are new to hallucinogenic drugs. I Alaska. Soon we should start

573
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.320
to get us to South America.
Fund Oh god, we'll never that's it

574
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:36.880
for us. Man. You don't
you don't come back from South America.

575
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:43.480
I guess not. Number five?
What do you think? Thirteen? Number

576
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.079
thirteen? Close? The four leaf
clover. Oh, I'm the worst at

577
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:52.559
this. I've only I've been wearing
my other socks. Four leaf clover considered

578
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:59.000
a good luck charm. The four
leaves represent fame, wealth, faithful lover,

579
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.800
and good health, so all the
things you need in life. Yeah,

580
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:07.280
it protects it also against witchcraft.
There's a bonus for you and I

581
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:13.960
get a faithful lover and no witchcraft. That's right. But that's not all.

582
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.360
If you wear it, it grants
you the ability to see fairies.

583
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.519
I know you went down on Halstead
here, that's what you did. I

584
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:30.000
know it. The origin maybe from
a biblical legend that said Eve stole some

585
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:36.159
clover as she was exiled from Paradise. So is clover actually from the hollow

586
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:43.159
earth? Oh? Darby O Gillen, the little people? Number four?

587
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:49.079
What do you think? Nope,
horseshoes. Honestly, horseshoes. There is

588
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.880
nothing superstitious about a horse shoe.
I refute this, all right, all

589
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.000
right, But it said that it's
good luck if you found it, if

590
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.679
it was legitimately lost by a horse, found by you, open end facing

591
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.599
you, and then hung above your
door. Okay, well let me ask

592
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.960
you this. Then this is a
good example of like Hayley's commet, not

593
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:13.280
lucky for the horse, not lucky
for the horse. Right, that is

594
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.000
a lot that is such a highly
specific thing, and the cross eyed guy

595
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:22.840
wasn't. But the cross eyed guy
could like he's cross eyed and he's gonna

596
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.639
go choose to cut a specifically golf
of a rabbit at midnight. All right,

597
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.840
you're right, you're right. I
hate myself for trying to defend that.

598
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.320
So the properties of a horseshoe maybe
derived from the crescent shape that it

599
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:44.760
resembles the moon, because you know
there's a lot of moon moon mystery that

600
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.880
that goes on has gone on,
or that it was made of iron,

601
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:52.639
which is the most magical of all
the metals. Wouldn't when you wouldn't be

602
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.719
able to helpier, I just might
just ensure that people walk with traffic,

603
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.480
because then wouldn't all the horseshoes on
the ground be facing you that you find.

604
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.760
Oh that's a good point, but
how do you know which way the

605
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.480
traffic is going? If you're new
to an area, and well, I

606
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.519
mean you just stay stayed to the
right. What if you're in England stayed

607
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:16.079
the left? Good answer, Okay, movie, actually still stay to the

608
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:20.199
right, don't you. That's just
you're on the left. Yeah, yeah,

609
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:22.719
I don't see. I just killed
us in England. We have to

610
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.440
go to South America because I'll kill
us if we go to England. Also,

611
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:34.079
seven seven nail holes are the luckiest
because seven seven h popular lucky number.

612
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.920
Oh, here's a bonus for you. Also, deters witches and fairies,

613
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.719
which is a huge problem at some
point, you know it was that's

614
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:45.039
true, man, because they're people
are really I mean, like, that's

615
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.719
why witches are extinct. Now,
we found so many ways to limit their

616
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.679
power that they just gave up.
I could, well, they're they're not

617
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.239
extinct. There's plenty of witches out
there, and they're not the witches that

618
00:48:55.239 --> 00:49:04.280
that they've been stereotyped into being witches
today. That today's witches is too proper

619
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:08.400
witches as LARPers are to the legions
of Rome, I can see your point.

620
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.000
I do think that that a lot
of witches today, though, are

621
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.760
a lot hotter than than LARPers would
be to the legions. Well you know

622
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.239
what you only you know that is
you're just like dodging sideways now yeah,

623
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.920
yeah, yeah, which is today
are hotter than which is used to be.

624
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.599
I just used to have to be
ugly. But it also depends on

625
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.719
which way you larbers are better educated
than the legions of Rome's that there?

626
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.559
No, okay, I don't know. Let's just throw out some more facts.

627
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:46.000
Yeah, foam swords, metal,
I just don't respect modern witches.

628
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:52.880
You don't know. Okay, that's
fair, But time getting all you are.

629
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.760
I just wrote a check off of
your ass too. We're gonna get

630
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:02.960
hext and cursed. And maybe the
whiches are hot these days. There they

631
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:06.920
are. They are hot, They
are better, well, some of them

632
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:08.119
are. Number three. What do
you think it is? Thank you for

633
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:15.599
ending that thirteen? Number thirteen.
I'm it's going to be my answer from

634
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:16.960
here on out, because if it
doesn't show up, I'm going to destroy

635
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:21.199
this place with my theory. You're
doing this incessantly. I think it's becoming

636
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:25.280
a superstition. Yeah, and number
three is number thirteen. Yeah, I

637
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.719
do it. All I had to
do was keep saying thirteen, and someday

638
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.800
it would work what's it called when
you're afraid of it? Stuck out Chris

639
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:39.360
good decaphobia. People also will not
build. They don't number their floors and

640
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:44.599
buildings with the number thirteen. It
goes straight from twelve to fourteen, especially

641
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.440
like older buildings actually will have this
on the website. I've got a number

642
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.480
of photos. My job allows me
to go into some of the finer older

643
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.519
high rises here in Chicago and I
take pictures of the elevator panels. Nice.

644
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:59.880
So I've got we've got some pictures
of some thirteen less some some buildings

645
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.800
just with a sweet twelve to fourteen. Yeah, other buildings just pay lip

646
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.440
service with a floor twelve and a
half, which I think would be the

647
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.559
best floor to live on. Yeah, if you're a John Macovic, yeah

648
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.559
exactly. I guess John John Cusack
at that point. Yeah. So yeah,

649
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.840
we've got we've got some pictures of
that on the website for you.

650
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:21.760
Cool. And the Witches covens had
thirteen members, which were twelve witches and

651
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.119
the drivel as did Jesus and the
Apostles. That that was that was it.

652
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.800
There were thirteen at the last supper
and the last one to sit down

653
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:34.719
our friend Judas. What didn't he
up at that meal? The fish?

654
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:40.239
It was delicious. He nailed it. The tarot. In the tarot,

655
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:47.679
the thirteenth card is death Friday.
The thirteenth obviously a popular day to be

656
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.800
scared of. Yeah, that comes
from many different sources. One of the

657
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.880
more popular ones coming out these days
is that it was the day that the

658
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:00.400
knights templar were hunted and killed in
your up back in the Middle Ages,

659
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:07.320
back in like six hundred years ago, right, six hundred years ago,

660
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:08.639
when everything happened, Yeah everything.
Have you heard that? Have you?

661
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:12.760
Have you not heard that? The
thirteenth plus a day that No, Actually

662
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.679
I don't know anything about that as
like the the root of it. So

663
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.360
that's interesting now is that when I
mean, obviously they didn't kill all the

664
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.840
templars in one day when like the
order went out exactly. That's that's like,

665
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:28.920
oh, six hundred hours, you
are on your horse with a sword,

666
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:32.480
go into these dudes homes. Wow. That's interesting. Yeah, So

667
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.760
so ever since then, it was
I mean, this is this is one

668
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:40.599
of the theories that have cropped up. But there's evidence that the number thirteen,

669
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:45.719
in particular the fear of it,
existed in Roman culture, even before

670
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:51.039
Jesus, even back as far as
ancient Egypt and Hindu culture and stuff like

671
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.239
that. So you can't you can't
blame it all on Judas. You can't

672
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:58.880
blame it all on the slaughtering of
the nights. That's interesting. Now you're

673
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.639
like businesses even fall off. They'll
actually see a decrease in business on Friday

674
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:06.639
the thirteenth. And I mean do
people. I mean, I don't know

675
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.280
anyone whos ever said I'm staying home
that day. But you always there's always

676
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:20.679
some jagbag in the office who's like
thirty look out the dag bag. There's

677
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:22.800
there's always that guy. And you
know what, listen to podcast. Maybe

678
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:28.559
you can be that guy for your
office. Okay, so number two,

679
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:30.400
what do you think number two is? Well, I knew what my answer

680
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:35.400
was gonna be, but I don't
think thirteen's gonna pay out anymore. Um.

681
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:40.400
Blue moon maybe blue moon, Yeah, when there's five moons, I

682
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:45.800
mean two full moons in a month. No black cats, black cats,

683
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.760
I said that earlier. Classic The
US believes, along with a couple of

684
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:55.000
their countries like Belgium, that a
black cat crossing your path bestows bad luck,

685
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:00.800
but it's the opposite. In the
British aild they are harbingers of good

686
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:06.199
luck. See that's awesome. I'm
still gonna kill us when we go there,

687
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:07.719
but we should go there. I
should go there and hug a bunch

688
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:14.039
of black cats. Yeah. Then
they were often depicted as which is familiars

689
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:20.159
or maybe which is or sorcerers themselves, so that that has some connotation with

690
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:23.880
um, you know why why it
might be considered bad luck over here anyway.

691
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:29.239
So black cats. Uh, yeah, that's that's something that's that's pretty

692
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:32.760
big, I think, I think
today over in the States anyway. Yeah,

693
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:37.199
so black cats go to England if
you like them, as long as

694
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:42.199
you stay in America, you will
stay clear of them. So number one,

695
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:45.159
what do you think number one is? Man, I've spent the last

696
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:47.280
two minutes trying to think of one, Like the whole time you were talking,

697
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:52.800
all I was thinking of is another
superstition. And so since I couldn't

698
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:58.480
think of one, I am opening
my dictionary area of superstitions. I believe

699
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:04.360
the number one superstition. So we
get some good paper page turning sounds that

700
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.960
sounds great right next to the MICROPHO. Well, you have to hear it.

701
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:14.039
I believe that is the uh the
pask flower, the purple flowered anemone

702
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:16.559
that is widely grown for its attractive
bloom. I think it's probably because of

703
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.480
the Southern English tradition of considerable antiquity
claiming that the pass flowers only grow where

704
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:23.079
saxon blood has been spilt. So
I'm going to say that's the number one.

705
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:27.079
I think that's the most common one, that they only grow where there's

706
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.800
been saxon blood spilt. So you
just guess that one top of my head.

707
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:35.840
The top of my head. Number
one is knocking on wood. Yeah,

708
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:39.320
knocking on wood, which is a
gesture that's used to counter the threat

709
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:45.199
one may incur when boasting or willing
something to happen. Oh my god.

710
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:50.119
It is directly linked to the Jinks. Yeah exactly, that's that. It

711
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:54.039
is the Jinks. It's it's like
it's anti jinks. So knocking on wood

712
00:55:54.880 --> 00:56:00.840
is associated with seeking protection of could
be the wood of THESS. Again,

713
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:06.239
you get a religious theme here,
or it could be invoking the benevolent wood

714
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:09.679
gods or spirits that are brought out
with a knock or a touch of wood.

715
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:13.519
I did not think I could bring
out wood spirits by punching them.

716
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:19.000
You know they don't you don't punch
them, just maybe they're home. It's

717
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.360
like knocking on a door. I
guess there's a different between knocking on wood

718
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:27.079
and whaling on wood, right,
which is always bad luck to your knuckles

719
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:31.519
in hand. So that's it.
Knock on wood. Yeah, number one

720
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:36.679
most popular there. I hope,
I hope that we did not burden you

721
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:39.880
with these that you may feel compelled
to engage in them for the rest of

722
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:45.119
your days. Yeah, I know
that in my life, maybe sometimes I

723
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:51.000
believe in things that don't exist,
perhaps the efficacy of the Chicago Bears passing

724
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:58.639
game, and maybe that I've learned
my lesson. There is a superstition,

725
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:04.960
because I keep going back being being
from the theater, being from a theater

726
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:10.119
background, I do know some superstitions
associated with that. Oh yeah, wearing

727
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:15.119
green is bad luck, and that
that comes from being in the limelight,

728
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:21.639
which is thinking like the late eighteen
hundreds, even they lit stages with sodium

729
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.800
lights. Yeah, like the footlights
had had a green tint to them,

730
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:29.000
and you didn't want to appear like
you're just a big pile of pug,

731
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.920
right, stage whistling in a theater
is bad luck. And this comes from

732
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:38.239
when they would hire sailors to run
the flies to that that lifted the scrims

733
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:43.440
and the screens and the background and
the curtains. And if you're just whistling

734
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:49.400
willy nilly, then you could get
a really heavy curtain or screen come down

735
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.639
on your head, one of those
those bags that are just full of sand

736
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:58.400
or right exactly, yeah, because
sailors whistled to to communicate you know,

737
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:01.719
which lines to raise and lower.
And then there's the old classic, don't

738
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.360
say McBeth in a theater. Yeah, that you have to say the Scottish

739
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:09.239
play. I don't get that.
That's just irritating to me. And I

740
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:14.800
mean I perform, I've done stage
things. I have never had any respect

741
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:16.320
for that one, which is probably
why to this day I have still not

742
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:22.360
been in McBeth. No one has
asked that's right, you say mcbeth's theater,

743
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.960
you'll never yeah blah. So yeah, those are some of the ones

744
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.400
for for acting and stuff. Do
you have any any in particular you want

745
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:31.480
to throw out there that we haven't
covered? Boy, No, I think

746
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:36.400
I went through like the ones that
that that bedeviled me. Then knocking on

747
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.480
the the clock saw the same number. I still do that. Yeah,

748
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:45.480
and uh, and I do avoid
occasionally stepping on cracks, although my mom's

749
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:46.960
back has nothing to do with it. I just would prefer not to step

750
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:51.360
on them. Yeah, yeah,
I don't. I you know you everyone

751
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.119
would say that they're not a superstitious
person, but everyone has these little tiny

752
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:59.239
things rattling around and do something to
do. Yeah, everyone's everyone's got lucky

753
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:05.079
underwear. Everyone like when you just
do laundry, you still will reach into

754
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.599
the underwear stack of neatly folded underwears
to pull out your favorite one. Is

755
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.440
that? Is that just because you
like it the most, or do you

756
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:15.280
think it's lucky? I mean,
I've got lucky underwear. I feel like

757
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.960
every time I wear a pair of
underwear that I think it's lucky. I

758
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.159
it just all everything falls apart for
me. Oh, we'll see. That's

759
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:28.679
that's I think the antithesis is just
as good as the the intention. So

760
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:30.960
so that's superstitions. Yeah for you. There you go. That's that's how

761
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:37.119
that's what fragile, broken people we
are. Let's let's jump into some superstitious

762
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.719
Okay, Okay, I've got I've
got a really great one. Okay,

763
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.920
but I'd like it. I'd like
you to start this one off already.

764
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:50.599
I've got a prank shop called No
Charm, No Foul. Oh that's a

765
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:52.360
good one. I mean, you
know of all the prank shops that are

766
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.239
for all the prank for all the
people who like to prank. All right,

767
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.320
all right, I've got one because
I like I do like Stevie Unders

768
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:04.280
so much. It's called Very Superb
Dishes. It's uh, it's just dishware,

769
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:10.239
but it s. I was really
proud of that when I said it,

770
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:19.440
and it didn't age. Well.
I think I think all puns are

771
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:24.599
yeah not fine one right, yeah, true. My second one a locksmith

772
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:32.800
called Emmy let me In. Oh
man, that's everything about that hurt me.

773
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:40.559
Um. I really only had very
Superb Dishes. I thought that it

774
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.519
was. I even said it when
I wrote it down. This is so

775
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:51.519
good. It counts just oh.
Usually I can try to whip one up

776
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:54.079
on the fly, and man,
I gotta tell you that Emmy Let me

777
01:00:54.119 --> 01:01:00.800
In just just punched me right in
my imagination's throat. Well, this is

778
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:06.000
where you guys can come in and
send us send us a fill the pund

779
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:08.960
and uh. Also, I would
like to know some of your you're all

780
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:15.639
favorite superstitions or if there's something that
that you do that you find brings you

781
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:19.199
good luck. Oh yeah, squirrely
family superstitions. Yep, yep. I

782
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.199
get pop tarts on my birthday to
this day. Oh really yeah. I

783
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:23.880
used to get him as a kid, and to this day in the morning

784
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:27.840
and my birthday, I go either
go the night before and get them,

785
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.239
or I'll get them the morning of
my birthday and have a pop tart.

786
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:34.119
I'm a birthday or name. Huh, that's funny. I'm sure I have

787
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:39.559
one. I'm bad at thinking of
stuff in general, but but yeah,

788
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:44.000
tell us like I would be particularly
interested to hear, Like what you know

789
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:47.000
are hyper specific things that you and
your siblings cooked up that you're still compelled

790
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:52.599
to do. Yeah? And um
yeah, and a pun and go ahead.

791
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:57.480
Go to blurry photos dot org.
Uh, submit the form there on

792
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:00.440
the contact page. Go to Facebook
lie us, go to the twitters and

793
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:05.039
follow us on there. Get an
RSS feed. We got all kinds of

794
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.760
stell you. We can hook you
up to go to the side. There's

795
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:12.000
no limit to the amount of us
you can get in your life right until

796
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:16.400
until you're done listening to this and
have to wait a week. So besides

797
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:20.079
that, I think that's all I
got. You gotta do anything else.

798
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:23.760
I think I think we put a
pretty nice little ribbon on this awesome um

799
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:30.719
well, until next time, I
am David Flora, and I am willing

800
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:32.400
like David st And we'll talk at
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