Are you ready to uh take a deep dive into this one? Right?
It's a commune with fish. Yeah, you're ready to get wet. Oh,
I'm ready to get soaked. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to
maybe the one hundredth and thirty six episode of the Gaper's podcast of nine hundred
and thirty six was the last one thirty five two hundred and thirty six.
I don't know. Oh boy, it's a two hundred and thirty six episode
of the Gapers podcast. I am the White Manta Trust. Now that's probably
not nctim. I should go with a great culture appropriation. I just thought
it's a black manta that you know on the Rutland Manta Trust. Now I
am the Ocean Master say the field. Oh yeah, I got the villains
in the house here. So, ladies and gentlemen, this is a flaut
spoilers review because I already didn sploors. So if you've clicked on this,
no reason to so this is why if you go wrong review. So uh
well, I guess I'll throw some plugs. We just did bumble peace,
so I don't know. Maybe listen to that dath this babe. Let's not
before but go listen to Bubbleby if you haven't did a good review there that
has the non sploilers and spoilers. If you haven't seen Aquaman, you went,
oh wait, where's the non sploiler one? I didn't want separately when
I saw early This is just the spoilers one. I've got some other content,
maybe spreading DFC being reviewed in the next day, maybe Titans, especially
for DC fans. I will be reviewing Titans. That finale it was wow
something else that was of the show. Actually I heard, yeah, it
was very controversial, so so yeah, I'm excited to talk about that.
So I'll be dropping either to more the next few days Christmas busy time.
But what we're gonna be doing now, what we're dropping is the anchor known
is the Aquaman review. So Taylor, I want you start off and remember
you can do full spoils, but give your overall thoughts on dcs. We
haven't seen haven't seen a DC movie since last year Justice League November, so
it's been a year and a month. So what do you think about this?
I honestly like I didn't have like super amounts of like excitement enthusiasm.
You was the Aquaman but that he said, it still looked good. It
looked entertaining. And you know, when I went and started watching the movie
for the first half hour, like because I just saw bumble Be the day
before, so I mean, it was just it's hardly not to compare the
Tube, which is like back to back movies. So watching this, I
thought, for okay, the first half hour, I was starting to feel
like, okay, this might be my movie of the weekend. Like I'm
really in the movie of the weekend. Nothing a year movie again. So
it was definitely coming off good. But then it just got to be long.
That's my only real big takeaway is just getting really really long because there
were so many moments throughout the movie and I got all these dom My notes
are in random order, but okay, just like, there are lots of
moments that I just really liked and really wasn't expecting. So then, because
I asked you a bit this at the gee first Christmas part we have last
night, but what are some moments you would have taken out should like because
it is long, and I would agree that I'll mention that it seemed particular
I would have taken mirror out from jumping at the bar scene, take mirror,
just take out a little bit. Yeah, ton's a screen time,
but they talking to a fucking ghost. Yeah, you know when when Arthur
was like helping his dad into the truck and then Mira just jumps up on
the dock. I feel like it was very underwhelming scene for her, and
it just wasn't a great intro for her. I feel like her appearance should
have been this flash flood and then she just immediately steps out through the water
and saves them and then gives him the whole speech like we need you.
I feel like it would have been a way better delivery. But that wouldn't
have made a short though. You just took the scenes and replace them pretty
much. It just takes that way out. But then she would have still
had to give that dialogue of ORMs trying to do this, you need to
come to Lantis, right, So she would have she wouldn't because I feel
like then they could have been like, Okay, this was like your brother,
orm come with me or whatever, but she still need to explain it.
But on the way in the ship as they're going and then they solve
it, okay, so that's it. You would just take on that one
scene that that's how and then it's boom not long anymore. It's two hours
twenty eight minutes. You could have taken out the scene where they hopped on
the plane we're flying to the second sequence. Yeah, and then they also
probably could have taken out the trench scene. Was a long sequence, but
I feel like that was I think I was needed. Yeah, and I
think that's one of the better scenes of the movie. Ye like when they
get all the trench creatures and everything that's full James one like horror aspects that
I think is maybe my favorst say. The reason why that's the scenes is
because this complaint is brought by your girlfriend, Emily. I look at that
scene. It I hear that's one of the biggest complaints, Like I hear
other complaints here there, but most people say it's long. And that's why
I asked them, Because for me, I say this in my non sployers
and even this I saw a second time, I didn't feel that way.
And maybe this was just some one lucky odd movie for me that it just
is not hitting me. To me, I'm not comparing quality, but it
felt like Lord of the Rings where Lord of the Rings. We have so
many films, we have so many locations, and I always feel like it's
a good pace, that's much better pace and more well structed than Aquaman.
But I was never bored in the movie. I was always entertained and always
liked where we're going. Yeah, I have some problems, which you'll get
into. But I was a report. It's a long was never a problem
with me for this movie. For some reason, some reason. If I'm
enjoying a movie, I'll take a five hour movie. I don't care,
I'll take it. So what do you have anymore? I had to on
your overall thoughts. No, I just got my random notes. Okay,
so yeah, I'll get it quick if you in this non sports. I
really like this movie. And then when I saw a second time, I
think I have loved this movie. I love it though, because so I
love it in spite of it having a lot of cons. I compare to
the way I compare Ragnrock for me is Ragnrock non hero. I'm not saying
this is the same type of movie. It's rag Rock out of the newest
MC movies other than so War and Black Panther's Screaming up there, But rag
Rock's the one I've rewatched the most cause it's so funny, it's so entertaining.
But I still major problems with some of the villains, some of the
stuff they do with like the Warriors three and all that, Like how they
just close up the stuff with odin Like I know I'm talking spoilers, but
it's like almost two years now, Like come on now, if Ben findy
war so, like that's my thing of I from an entertainment value thor right
rocket. If you just did a list because we did our rankings, if
you did what's your most entertaining HIMC movie, that's probably top three for me,
but we did best and that's why it wasn't even in my top ten.
Awfo man, I think is that similar where it's super entertaining and enjoyable
for me? I think it's a movie I'm gonna rewatch over and over,
but I do have a lot of problems with it. I said, it's
a nonsploors. It's that I get here to me is the villains. I
likes some of the concept of viilms, but orm to me takes a huge,
huge I know, I'm not even meant to be upon a huge plunge
in this movie. One moment he's on his way to be a great Comma
villain, and then he gets really generic and black Man, who I think
has used cool action wise, and I love I love how he gets his
tech and that scene of him building a scen and everything. That's great because
we don't usually get to see that with villains and heroes. And I like
from his perspective that he is like human right, Like he's like the most
normal person in the story and he has to like match up these landians and
all these sea creatures. So it's great to see how is he gonn approach.
It's almost like almost like a Batman type scene where he's like building a
suit thing and and yeah, they give him a bigger helm because that's way
he looks like comments but they do a good reason. I'm like, well,
it would have toasted his head. So I love all this stuff with
Black Manta, And I really want black Man because for DC's one of their
biggest villains and he's like Aquaman's Joker. But at the same point, I
don't know if he needed to be in this movie because obviously he's set up
for them. We'll talk about later on, like for the sequel to probably
be the main battie, but I feel like he's just kind of there,
like he could have been another Henchmen sort of character. So it's tough with
me, and that's where I guess I lean more positive of Yeah, you
know, the Blackmanton stuff wasn't done great, but I like seeing Black Manta
and I enjoyed it, So those were my collins. With the villains and
humor, it works for me most time, but there's a lot of times
that when it doesn't work, it really doesn't work. There's some big like
pin drop moments and as far as jokes in this movie, so that's a
problem where I like a lot of the humor, but when it doesn't work,
it's not like all I do with friends, like ooh, that was
tough. My pros Momo is a great aquaman. I'm excited to watch him
for years to come, hopefully. Brain bubble popped in while to watch the
second time. The reason I love him so much he reminds me of Brendan
Fraser in The Mummy. That's advise that is getting from where well, think
about the back and forth he has mirror in the same way that Rick and
Evelyn have that like kind of will they won't. They like smart at they
like she's the smart one. He's just big brute like but there's many times
where he'll do something. He'll just smash them right the same way Rick would
like. Sometimes he'll just shoot something and it's like what and yeah. So
for me, I Joymona might be on my man crush list now just because
I love Brendon Fraser and that's why obviously Momoa much huger guy, probably be
our long guy. But I think he's are generations Brendan Fraser the way he
was in this movie, that's like compair him. If you don't like that,
then no, but watch The Mummy and watch Rick O'Connell. That's kind
of Jason Momoa in this movie. In a nutshell, there's some differences.
Yeah, I really like amergurs Mara. I really liked her character. I
didn't think I was gonna all supporting cast is great for Nicole Kennon and Will
to Foe. So I'm excited to talk about this. Where I want to
serve with the films, usually say them, I want to start the films.
What do you think of orm slash Ocean Master. I'll see you know,
you're a big Conjuring fans. You're a big Patrick Wilson fan. Imagine
did you catch the Annabelle Easter Egg? No? Wow? So one moment
there's I can't remember the scene now. Shit, it's near the end of
the movie, but it's at the bottm of the ocean. There's an annibl
doll in the ocean. They're legit. Yeah, yeah, it's so cool.
Yeah, you know, we'll have to look forward whenever if you're watching
that time is now in the DC universe. I guess so because there's Warner
Brothers, so they could do what they want. So that was really cool.
But yeah, so orm Ocean Master. Obviously Taylor loves the Conjuring and
anabl movie. So what do you think about this? The brother I liked
him. I felt like, you know, there was moments of him being
you know, genuinely a villain and then moments of serious sincerity or you know,
like the ring of fire Point and he's like, you know, I'm
giving you one chance to you know. Yeah, Like it wasn't like even
though like Green Goblin was like it's an execution, you know. It wasn't
form's original tension. I thought you were referring back to actual Spider Man.
I'm like, I don't think William Defoe ever says it's an execution in Spider
Man. I know, okay, so vocal you mean Malco. Yeah,
Norman was like, yeah, it's an execution and gone, no Norman,
But you know, I like that. It wasn't actually like that wasn't the
virginal plan. There's no trap, right, there's no trap. He just
said, you know, I'm giving you one last chance just to step down
from this and go home. Technically, any fight that ends in death is
an execution. It's not like Mamoa or like Arthur. He has a chance
to defend himself. He's just being bullheaded and accepting this fight because he's an
idiot. Yeah. So yeah, but o that though I thought he was
a he was a cool villain. I mean, between him and black Man,
I'm definitely more of a black Man A fan. Yeah, but I
still liked arm a lot. He was pretty cool and I liked his armor,
and I loved how he planned out this alliance and everything, which that
has one problem might have though he what were they called? They were the
fisher Kings. Fisher Kings, I think, I know you're gonnay have the
exact same problem or just stabs this guy's murders the king and he's like,
Okay, we're gonna work with you guys, like because of this guy just
killed his fucking father like her father. Oh yeah, it's hard to tell,
but they do say her at some point, and a woman as well.
Oh, I thought that it was just a young boyish You can't really
tell. You can't see genders in the fish world. Yeah, yeah,
so that's my problem. And I think that everyone can make that comparison to
Thor and Loki, right, And I think you're gonna because it's the same
thing, the half brothers or brothers, whatever the deal is. And that's
why I love Loki is he is a bad guy, but it's all this
amount of circumstance. A lot of bad shit's happened to him, He's been
lied and it always seems like there's a good guy side in him, and
I guess there is. And that's the thing where with Loki there was this
gradual build too. He's confused in Thor too, an avengerses just boling fisted
and he does kill in some people. That's why I've always said he had
to die in Finney warspot for that move, I guess, but because it's
the Vader thing. If he doesn't die, then he has to go to
prison because he's done some bad shit. But there there was a thing of
he started as a good guy and then he fell and he was an ultrabatic
guy, and then he started to coming back down and being a good guy.
And I thought orm could have a similar progression. But the problem is,
and I like the first half a lot, when like Tay said,
when he's like, you don't have to do this and everything like that,
and he has a really good compelling reason to want to bring like earth or
war to the earth dwellers, right because it we legit do that. You
look at our world, like we pollute all the time, all these things.
So he has a good case. It's not it's similarly a Fantos thing
where you can take an argument of you know, Thanos is. I think
ORMs argument is even better. I think ORMs is more on a kill mongers
le or kill mongers like, hey, our people have been suppressed for years,
let's give them weapons. He goes about the wrong way. Same thing.
Our people, our animals are getting killed by pull and gas. Let's
solve this, Let's not kill everybody. But that's his idea, soles.
That's good and I loved it. It was a villain up until he killed
the Fisher King because he was making sense. He was sympathetic at times,
he was yeah, he was high mighty, but he's a king. He
is arrogant. He even says that like his father. And yeah, he
looks good, especially at suit the end with the purple like silver gold and
the mask is so good, like these have some of the best cautumes I
think in any common movie, Like they all look great. But the thing
is he's sympathetic and you can side with him and you can see where he
is to a point. And then when he kills the Fisher King, it's
just now he's just killing his men that he's fought beside our other countrymen or
kingsmen, just in cold blood. And that's me when against everything that character
stood for, at least I thought, because then I thought, okay,
so he kills him, and I thought, okay, now he's gonna be
just full bad guy, right, Like Okay, I'm not always interested in
that. But fine, he's full bad guy, but then when he sees
his mom, he's like good guy again, and then all coman, which
I like the line when he's like, hey, when you're ready, let's
talk. So they're gonna do like the office like kind of Loki Thornty with
there'll try to work it out. But I don't like that. I guess
that's thing he like the same thing as Love Loki killed lots of people,
but it was over two movies where this was so quick, where it's like
he's relatable, he's really bad, and then the end again he's like,
oh yeah, maybe I'm doing some bad stuff, you know. So I
wish there was a way they could have done not. I wish they just
like declared war with the Fisher King and like that fight end was then with
war, Like I don't like that he had to just cold blood kill people
because then he just got super generic and he was just being evil and he's
arresting Bulco and I was like, oh, now we're just every like comic
book trope, we're just crossing off. So I think he had a chance
to be great, but he was just good. I think acting wise he
was good. He was super over the top. Though. Patrick Wilson was
going for like cheesy mountains of this movie. He was. He was in
it for the cheesiness, like his speeches and everything, and he just yells
in this movie constantly. Just ah, he just dry. So what do
you think about black Man? Because he said you were on a black Man
side, So yeah, black Man. I think he was very cool.
I loved his introduction and I thought it was a very cool like the whole
sequence of how you know, you create your villains like you're a hero and
you know, you think you're doing the right thing and it just totally backfires.
And I love how even Aquaman calls himself out on that later on the
movie. I think that's brilliant. So I think black Man was a super
cool villain. And just his suit was cool. I love the whole Tony
Stark moment and been building his suit and all that stuff. Yeah, I
think he just he wasn't like completely ruthless and like un you know, unreasonable.
He's just like you know, my own rewards. Just I want to
show Aquaman. I want to kill him and make him pay. And I
think that's all, you know, the Vendetta would be pretty ruthless though.
The very first team would get him and he kills like that poor submarine captain.
True, and then he's a Byron True. But then just when you
see him like with his dad, it just totally Yeah, it totally melts
that away, I guess in a sense because they seem like just seems like
a nice guy. But I I really I don't know if he's a nice
guy. I'd say he still has emotion or even still care for people.
Yeah. I really liked how he was, you know, working for the
Atlantians and the whole parts. I love how they gave him the tech and
he just customized it. Yeah. I just think he was very very cool.
I love that he's not dead. That's my main thing. I'm very
happy that he is still alive. At the end of the movie. Could
you watch the end credits scene were they on the raft where again he gets
saved and everything like that. Yeah, yeah, he's like, don't touch
that. I won't touch the terrible scene by the way, because I hate
that there just has like who is Awquaman? He throws at night? So
a black man. I really like him. I like the design, the
action, of I talked about Nonsmore. I love I think all the action
in this movie, like the big battles mostly like the hand in hand like
one v one fights are really good, like the actual like ran a firefight
at the end when him and Ormor on that ship, and every time walk
a man in black MANI fight, even when he's just in human form.
It's really like. The choreography really well done, so big shot James one
because I feel like comic movies sometimes and just getting the super generic just like
oh explosions. This was really well done, so he is a character felt
unique. My problems were one, he was also very cheaper, where he
just had many lines like the one specifically like I'm gonna gut you like a
fish. The thing is like they are going for full and cheese, and
I guess that's why I accepted it, and I end up liking that.
But he does have some really like really solid like nineties Daredevil two thousand and
three dialogue going on this, But I cant accept that because for me,
they're doing that the whole movie so fine. But I could see some people
I liking that. My problem was I liked the stuff that he was working
with Atlantians and arm and everything like that. He set up the whole sub
at the beginning. But I wanted more of that because why they have so
they have these Alanian soldiers, right, why did not any of them get
the experimental kit or the experimental weapons? Why is this guy? And I
wanted them to get more into why on earth is this guy black Man of
more feared? Or why does orm trust him with this new gear over maybe
like some of his best soldiers that he would know day in and day out.
So that's why I almost want to know, like how did they get
connected? How does he figure into this? But really it was just I
just hired him, and he's a hired gun, right, But I don't
because he's just because he's human, right, That's thing, Like why would
he trust him over other people? I think it was because he, like
Orum said, he can't be tied to this, you know, this certain
thing if you were to kill me or whatever. Yeah, I guess I
just want more of why him because in the movie, I guess he's scaled
at the m of me. But he is just like another pirate, right
because he drive because he faced Akamanem he lived, so I know it was
just the drive that he had. He said, you know, I don't
want the money, I just want a coaman. I think that's what really,
Yeah, I think that's what sold it for arm. You know,
he's not like, Okay, this guy's out for fish blood. So you
know, I guess I always just wish they would maybe say what you were
saying, you know, saying, that's why I want you to do this,
blah blah blah. But those scenes that those two have together were good,
but they were very small. But yeah, I liked him. I'm
excited to see more. I hope in a sequel we get some more as
far as him being the Wayne villain, because it did feel like I like
what they did of him. That's why I feel like he's above Henchman.
But I feel like what ends up happening to he's just in that middle scene,
which is a really good action scene, but then after that he's gone
for the whole movie till the end credits, and he's just kind of forgotten
about, right. But I love the scene with him and his dad.
It's it's really good. I think, like you said, it's a great
time for Auckaman and Auckaman. You know, just the if that begins.
You know, I don't have to save you, but I don't, or
I'm not gonna kill you, but I'm gonna save you either it comes to
fight on in the ass. You know, luckily it's not dark Rocks.
His black man didn't sleep with him, but you know he's out for blood.
So yeah, I liked him, and I hope we see more of
him down the line. So who would you want to talk on next?
Let's talk about the mother. So you want to talk about Atlanta? Atlanta,
So you talk, you talk. I liked her. I liked her
interaction story. Although the way the movie started completely caught me, like off
guard. It was just so abrupt, like boom, this window and then
there's a body in the ocean. Right, it was there was no build
up to not at all, like they definitely should have, you know,
gone a different approach, like there might have been, but they probably loved
it. Like this one's already two and a half hours. Let's cut down
this mini tornado scene. Maybe yeah, probably probably we haven't cut something.
Let's cut that, Yeah, but no, I I think, Yeah,
she was awesome. I loved how you know, at first she was like
very like aggressive and crazy, and then they had like the kid and everything,
and she was just very cool and gratings with the dog like when she's
like trying to look and very much like. That was gross, but I
loved. I honestly did believe she was dead. So I give him credit
for actually fooling me. I I I usually can predict kind of when certain
characters are not dead, but even though they try and come across as if
they are, and this really fooled me, of course, as soon as
I saw the fish lady. But yeah, so that was cool how she
had like the trench armor and everything like that, Like, yeah, so
excuse me. I like that whole Wow. I like that whole sequence.
And I like how she came back in this gown and was like arm,
don't do it or whatever, like just calling out and he's like mother,
and then he's all, I don't actually to get her, yell mother.
I think fish or to his best at Dylan uh British accent. But that's
all I got. She was. She was really really good. I think
she was a great addition to the film. Yeah. I think it started
off hot with that. Well, yeah, and they got some good loving
going on love that song. I can't pronounce this. I think some French
song or something. First time I saw I got that song, and it's
just when they're meeting fantastic. I like the school or overall. I guess
they take a quick teacher. I really like the scar but listening in the
past three days I love I can't find ORMs them on it, so I
think they add the dune dundune posts. I hate that boy. I didn't
like it the first time, and then the second time I really like it,
but I hate they added into the movie. When you listen to soundtrack,
they cut it out. Ye's just such a pecific I could be wrong
because there's a few tracks that I'm listening to a lot more than other ones.
You should listen to a black Man's theme, it's really good. It's
the one when he comes up like that one he's making a suit that's really
good. That's uh, it's no good by depach Mode. I love that
and listening that all he can too. But the black Man, I think
when you see the first time of the chase happening really good, So I
I you talk quicklier. But I love the scarb. I don't know if
it's in the top five for me Golden Geeks, but it's definitely one at
the end of the year where I'm looking what I'm gonna nominate. It was
up there because I sent there. I liked this. Each character felt like
they had different themes going on, like with mareon Acklaman it was more action
with orm and black Man was more scary imposing, and then there was more
like a love subtle stuff with the happening with Atlanta and his dad. So
I really liked all the scores and in each setting had different ones too.
So on the score, you want to say anything, I'll have to.
I liked it in the movie a lot. I didn't see it being in
a negative way at all. It was definitely really good. I'll have to
listen to it again. But I didn't catch you like other ones. No,
there were few. They didn't catch you like Spider Verse Spider Verse and
had a lot of tunes that really stood out. It was like, really
really good. But I think I have to re listen to that black Man
one because there was a few songs though in the score that I really enjoyed,
and I like to listen to those. Those kinds of tracks, because
even like Batman or Superman, there's a couple of a couple of pieces of
score that I love and Justice League I have to re listen to that again,
so like DC has a zero in Justice really Yeah, wonder One was
Fantastics the same one. Yeah, it was the same that did Wonder Woman.
I got it. It's up. I think his name's I don't know
how president is, Rupert Grinton Williamson, I think, but I may be
one for him now because I love Wonder Woman and I love this, So
he's somebody now, he's on my list of somebody I'm watching, and if
I hear his name, I'll be excited. So yeah, no, I
I like a lot of scores, A very big thing and selling point for
me in the movie. There's lots of stuff like Michael Giacchino and yeah,
and John Williams. Of course that's just those little composer Yeah, like Steve
Zabloski and all those other character the composer composers, thank you. They do
great jobs and so like that. That's good to know that he did the
One Woman's score too, because like One Woman's scheme just straight up hands down,
such a good well he didn't do that. That was what I'm zimmer
because remember Hans Ever did BBS and they did it there first. Oh yeah,
they got brought over. He did news. Of the things that I
like the most in Wonder Woman that he did was the score called No Man's
Land. That's her when she's going up to the battlefield. That build up
that goes in the theme and that incorporates it one of my favorite tracks ever.
It's so bod It's like six minutes, but it's fantastic. So now
that was hot him with the music, it was hot. I love that
opening action scene when they find the lighthouse the soldiers and Mirror just goes aam
with the triad and everything that that was great. That was just right away
kicking me off, like, oh, I'm really digging this. We didn't
get enough of her, but I think, like, I guess I should
phrase that I want more of her, but I guess it wouldn't fit in
this movie. So I want more of her in the sequel. But anything
she was in, whether it was the relationship with the Auckman's dad, her
love or them Funnier, I really liked her. I thought. Nicole Dimmon
Nicole dim Dimon and Nicole Kimmen did a great job. And because sometimes those
mother rules, like you look at Thor's mother, no one gets a fuck
about Free, you know, like and they shouldn't because she's not a big
character. But even sometimes parent roles they can just be oh, actresses just
said the job to be wise and they're just like, I know you have
a paycheck, but they just like, oh, yeah, i'm your son
and I'm yourror, and blah blah blah, I'm doing a terrible job.
Explain this. But I feel like sometimes parent roles in Blockbusters, superham movies,
they can sometimes just be an afterthought because the actor's just there to be
a famous after they give Creed and Steel, like Jason Mino is not as
big as star as me, but I'm here to get crea give this,
like boost up this franchise. Nicole Kibban obviously a big star, but I
feel like she came there to give a good performance. So the other one,
I'll start off the review. I really enjoyed Mirror because we only had
her on one scene in Justice Sleep, but I did not like that scene
in Justice League. But she was great. I thought they had good chemistry.
I don't think it was like Garfield Emma Stone chemistry. I don't think
it's one of these chemistryes that my Man is one of the best superhero couples
so far, but maybe in a sequel. I liked it, and I
heard some people say this, so I can agree. I don't know if
they needed to do the full on romance in this movie with them kissing at
the end and whatnot. They could have just kept it as them approaching it,
So I crew do agree in retrospect, I would have liked it.
They would have saved that. But she was great. She has my probably
fair action scene of the movie when she burst those wine bottles and using a
spear, so cool, Like That's what I love with this movie, is
like they were using the waters and the creatures. It's some movies where they
have this whole entire landscape and world and nothing special about it. They may
feel like every action scene in every setting had something special about it. And
I really enjoyed her. She's one of the best parts this movie. Actually,
I thought she was funny at work for the most part. I fucking
love her jellyfish dress. At one point when this is the rand fire like
that's I mean, like, that's why I thought you would l because that
like anytime we're in Atlantis. That gave a huge prequel vibe. Oh yeah,
like just that dress, I was like, this is something pad maybe
a rocket when she was clean altandala. So yeah, I was surprised for
her and I really liked her, and I'm excited to see more of her
downline if we had all comment too, so so her and wow, finally
it happened. I've said to Taylor, Taylor is this little chirt. He's
always leaning back on his chair and I'm like, we're gonna fall in these
days. And he always gives this tailor on selan. Nah, I wouldn't,
No, it won't happen. And he was. He was, and
now he's not. He's notice stopping, but he was seconds away from following.
I should have this fell for the camera. Oh no, that's the
bloomers. That's gonna make the bloopers last minute for sure, because there's so
many times they're like, no, that's fine, it's fine, I'm not
in Carpeon anymore. It's hard. Oh okay, well that's saying you're about
to ask me something about Mira. Yes, So that's scene with Mira and
Aquaman in Justice League. Is that after Aquaman in the movie? No?
This that's before So this is what do you mean A League? Justice League?
Okay, because Aquaman goes in the Aquaman's movie, it seemed like he's
meeting Mira for the first time because she introduced herself to him. So in
the Justice League movie, he goes down and find like part of the manager
somewhere and he sees Mira. It's like, well, yeah, it's kind
of awkward, but I think they just, uh, they chalked it up
as it was just some random person that he's never gonna meet again, and
now it's kind of like, oh hey, like I am like the official
meeting. So I've only seen Justice League twice. I'm probably gonna keep pit
it that way. I have no reason to watch that movie ever again.
So, oh, Justice League. She was good. She was very,
very good. Actually, I enjoyed her role in her character. Her banter
with Artha Curry was really funny. Yeah. I liked her superpower controlling the
water don't get in between women and their line. You know. She had
a whole on like, you know, life advice, but Yeah, she
was very very badass, very cool. I liked when she, like the
girls through the thing in the well or the fountain. She made the little
shapes happen. That was such a fun scene when she gets the roses and
then she looks around seats everyone else buying fruit eating, and then when Arthur
looks back, she's eating the roses and then he goes up and eats the
rose so she's not embarrassed. That was cute shit right there. That stuff
to me, they had and it's different because they're both like fish power people,
but they had the relationship that I wish Jane Foster and though we're had
in the Thorn movies where most time it's just oh he's hot, like like
and it's fine, like you could do that, but I'd like it was
just that, and I felt there was I don't feel like there was as
much as like an enjoyable aspect of that relationship where this had small there were
small moments but fun back. It also reminds me not to the same sting
because they have better chemistry, I think, but very similar. Like Wonder
Woman. Steve Trevor, what did you see Trevor end up being more of
a like really love and more serious at the end of the day. But
when they were in their bands, they're like when he gets out of the
that tough for the first time, Nate getting lands a watch cover himself like
they do. They can do good at that. And I really really enjoyed
that scene. I don't know why, but I yeah, it was a
standout for me. I'm a big fan of Little Mermaid. That's my movies,
and you know when she's like using the thing of the bobs and stuff
like and just incorrectly, just like she's just doing stuff the wrong way in
the world. And I just felt like that was like another like taking like
Ariel, just like getting up to weird shenanigans, just trying to like fit
in, and they did. That was Atlanta to the beginning of the movie,
right like she didn't know what was going on, you know, a
dog, she destroys the man's poor TV jangle, that's poor TV first thing.
So I liked that that was a current thing and I don't know in
the sequel it happened, but I'd like to see more of that. I
almost would like to see more of them this week because it was the first
time of her being on like land, but I would be down to see
more of it again in the future. I mean, that's why I wish
they didn't have them kiss at the end, because it's kind of a man
a steel thing that I don't like that there's a war going on and then
they're they're making out while everything and I know they do it. They pan
around and see and get this cool stuff of explosions and whatnot. It's like,
yeah, but people are also dying and you guys are just making out.
So that that did get me on the second time to make out.
Yeah, No, same thing as Superman. Fucked that like you should be
saying in people, but yeah, uh. And I liked all the stuff
that she had, all the interactions with her dad. He was very small,
adult longer and adult longer and creed to this he's having Helger year,
And I actually liked his performances. I can't remember his character because Ackeman is
not uh, he's not my character, so I wouldn't catch all these little
east eggs and big things as I usually do with some other people. But
I liked him, and to me, I liked the relationship she had with
him. You have anything at him. No, not really. He just
seemed like he was a bit of a jerk, but at the end of
the day, he was a loyal ter and he was he turned around.
I'm not a big fan of that scene. When I liked the battle with
orm at the end, I like the Mother of You. I did not
like mer A speech and that felt very bad, prequeish when she's like,
this is your king of Atlantis and they're just like yeah, and they're all
cheering, but it's like, you don't know this dude. A second ago,
you were just trying to kill him. Like that felt very cheesy that.
I was not a fan of that. What do you think about Office
You've said before you're a big fan. You tried to nominate last year for
Justly, But what do you think about Jason Norman? Was Akman now getting
this full length feature movie? We're we're in and off with AKA. I
guess still about fault talking about willm to Foe, I guess we'll probably talk
about him now because there's some they're kind of combined. But what do you
think about first standalone? For he he was great, Like I loved his
performance, you know in Game of Thrones, like As an actor, he's
just awesome. There's another movie he has. I can't remember who he's starting
with, but he's in a cabin and these guys are coming at him and
they have to like defend. They got like a kid with them. It
just there's a trailer four that just debuted and I think it's on Netflix or
something now. But is it a he shoots on TV show like The Frontier.
I think he has had like a three season show right now on Netflix.
Really maybe he is a front Sier just mis interpreted as a movie.
He got three seasons of the Yeah, So like, I don't know.
He's just an awesome actor. I think he can deliver any different kind of
role. I think he just fits the role of you know, the quirky
kind of just crazy, funny guy or whatever. Like even in the bar
scene when you think a fight's coming and the guys like I never thought was
coming. Oh I thought stuff, and he whips out the pink phone.
I'm like, whoa, I have not seen that coming. That didn't work.
That's one of the jokes that didn't work. I don't like this bike.
I get that was so over the talk comedically of like this biker of
course is the pink like butterfly case. I thought I thought I was good
because it started off with their careers just like reluctantly not want to do it,
and as the pictures progress they were getting more and more wasted and buddy
buddies. So thought that was fun. But no, I think he just
he had such a good personality throat at all. And I think there were
moments where he could definitely feel that he was what's the word he delivered in
certain emotional moments, and he very much you know. I liked when it
felt like he was in over his head at times, and well, I
liked that many times the character knew that and he's either doing because other people
want knew something or he was un confident in himself, which I that's why
I in Justice League and the trailers. I don't think the trailers really show
that. And the trailers he's just full on. I said, to my
knowledge Plice, he's always just like my man buddy, like badass like I
like in the movie. He's not just that one hundred percent the time like
he is. That's a big part of his character, but it's not always
like not everything's a joke to him, not everything's cool guy, Like I
really at the moment before he gets the trade when he's talking about like I'm
not a king and I don't know what to do, and I'm like,
he doesn't say I'm in over my head, like we're talking about what I'm
paraphrasing of that speech that he has this creature of why he's trying to do
this. It's not just like and I'm the most badass personal world. I
do have a big caught after, but I'll wait till you're done. One
of the moment and yeah, that's why I thought. I thought he did
a good job with that. I like he's very charismatic Jason Momoa. He's
a guy that I like. I said, now I've figured out he feels
like Brandon Fraider to me, so I'm in. And I've never been like
that with him. I've liked him, but everyone's always had this love for
him. I'm like, oh, heys seems like good enough guy, but
this has clicked it in for me. The one scene that's where I really
disliked was I feel like most of the movie there's emotional stuff. He didn't
make too many jokes there's a few times like we'd seen the clip before,
but like, uh, the white and us peel on it. For me,
I was like, Eah, that didn't work for me. Did that
work for you? Uh, he's some stylence. I thought you did what
I saw something like that. The humorous parts are always in the trailer.
I laugh at it in the trailer, but then I know that I'm not
gonna enjoy it in the movie because I've already seen it. So I think
it's just it's such a cheesy ploy to just get people to go see the
movies safe that was That was a really really funny scene, one of the
funniest ones that could have been, or one of the funniest ones that was
in the movie, but it wasn't funny because they spoiled it already, so
I didn't laugh. Again. I knew it was coming, So for that
whole sequence there, I knew it was coming, and it just it pulled
me out of the enjoyment of the movie. Okay, So yeah, So
his humor I think was pretty good. But that's why that I need to
watch more. And I just remember there being a lot of humor around certain
people, a lot of lines that didn't work. So one one line,
Oh man, I'm gonna take some more a lot of awkaman, you know.
H two h two. So one big con talking about going back to
ORM was that Ring of Fire scene. I love when he's like, I've
wanted my whole life to meet my brother and talk to him, tell me
he's not alone and everything like that, and then he throws and it was
not him as the actor with the writers. Then he throws in the like,
but then I found he grew up to be a dickhead, and I
was like, I hated that moment because this is a really good, heartfelt
moment and that's when it because that was more not I guess it's more in
the middle the movie, but that's when I was still worried, like,
oh, are they gonna make him too dickie or too like jockey? And
they did it for the most part, but that was a big con for
me. And then some stuff just sticks out, but they were just boping
emotion that scene. I don't think it needed for him to be cool guy
Momo. I would have just liked him saying like I really wanted to meet
you, and even if say something of like express that he's been a dickhead
like that he's going down a bad path, but don't do it, and
just like and then he grew up be a big dickhead, and you know,
I was like, oh, we're going for the laughter. I didn't
like that, you know, like I didn't mind me he says, like
I call it an ass whooping or what. That was fine, but in
this emotional scene, I would have liked to wait. So that's one thing
for me. I'm trying to think. I liked Mira Morrison Jane Ofeta's dad.
I said, as an an sports I want more of that relationship now
mom being back. And that's why I knew the mom was gonna come back,
just because Alana was set up as far as she says, you know,
every day at dawn, that's you know, that's come check. And
then he like the next time we see him with an old guy, he
comes back and he's checking. He says like, Okay, she's gonna come
back. And I really like Willim the Foe as Bab. We did a
good job. Those training scenes were really good. Same thing I'd want.
I know the movie is so packed, but that's why for me, like
I still wanted more. I wanted more of those. I like the training
scenes. I like when he was older. I think I did want a
bit more of his relationship with Orm, because at the beginning of the movie,
before shit hits a Fan, it feels like he maybe disagrees with Orm
taking war, but it's more of a you know, this could be wrong,
but I'm trusting you. But then at some point the movie it just
turns for he's fully out to just flat out before he even kills the Fisher
King, like he's going behind his back, and that's the thing that's straight.
I wish that maybe that was Eric. It's not the worst rend thing,
but I want more of the relationship, especially that scene in the end
I like but he's just like, oh, I know that you've been training
him, and you know, go watch somewhere with a view and stuff.
I think there could have been one or two scenes added them to get their
relationship, or even you could added vocal like maybe same thing Orm because they
didn't know what they're doing that character. Maybe if they went the rout of
him being like a sympathetic villain, could have been that, you know,
I'm doing this for his own because he doesn't know he's going too far.
But other times it felt like he was just like yeah, fuck or I
don't like him, so I don't really understand their relationship full I wish we
got a few more scenes of them together because yeah, but the other stuff
vocals in look good. The DA didn't work really good on him. I
don't know it worked as good on Django Fett. The beginning, I felt
that stood out. But there's suffer willing to foe. He looked young,
but yeah, yeah, so that's all I got for characters. What do
you go when? Else? Yeah, for Norman, I definitely felt I
was definitely formula back to formula. I felt like I couldn't trust him to
be honest. So yeah, like I felt like, Okay, he's helping
Akaman, but at the same time, I don't trust that. I feel
like he's got his own thing. Maybe it's because I'm just thinking, like,
you know, yeah, but no, I think overall he was I
really came to like his character, really enjoyed him, and yeah, I
didn't have any problems with with him at all. I will bring up I
think they could have used even more a kid. I want to say more
more training stuff because I didn't like I like how he was talking to Arthur
as a kid, but when they jump in the water, he's like,
you know, you can't only swim, you can like breathe, and then
you can see him I gets starker when Arthur jumps the water. He's swimming,
vocal goes and like does like the windbreaker thing goes really fast and then
Arthur just does it with no explanation or what not. So I could I
do think a few of those scenes could have been a little longer, bit
more montage, because like Arthur seemed to pick it up really quick. I
know, I could say, okay, his skills over time. Now is
a man, he's done it. But even in those montages, he's learning
the shit really quick. He just jumped in the water and he's like so
it's like, so could he have done this this whole life that he didn't
know? I'm not sure that was unclear, And I've heard other people say
that I didn't bump you, but some people complain that they weren't clear on
who could breathe on land and who couldn't. Well, then yeah they said
only royalty. Yeah, like yeah, But at the same point, it's
like is Vocal Royalty. I think so the tea are like high class.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they could have Yeah, I'm listening
to you, like I didn't have a problem with it, but I think
they could have made through a few more exposition of like bloodlines or this and
that, because there were times where it's like, Okay, all these guards
are up there, what's the deal. But yeah, I wanted to throw
up before I forgot about that training montage because I bugged me. I would
have gotta check out of it. If like Norman didn't actually know if he
was like fish capable and this big jumped off the cliff and he's just like
it's just freaking out because he can't like I don't got my mama's powers.
I'm more human, you know. And Norman's like back to formula, back
to formula, anything you want to say. With jangle Fit, that was
like I didn't even know he was in the movie. Oh really, It
took me a few seconds. And when I saw him like old school,
like his old self, like, oh it's jangle Fet, Like this is
great Star Wars crossover. No, So I definitely enjoyed that, and I
love the relationship when he like jumps on the dock and they just like connect
or whatever and they go to the bar and the guy even though it wasn't
the fight, the biker guys coming up behind him and the Jangle fens like
give us a whole wing or whatever. Like I love the relationship. I
could have a whole movie of that kind of Yeah, I won't. That's
why I guess I do like I love it like it sounds. I guess
it's tough because I do want if I want to pick, I want more
and underwater Atlantis because that's the hero. But I think that shows of them
doing a job because the Earth stuff could have been boring. But it's kind
of like, well Dylan hates Astar right, like I could have been that
way with Earth. But I liked all the character stuff happening on Earth,
whether it's Manta Mira or Djangle. So did my daughter apparently, but h
yeah, so did you said you had some more? I have a lot
of I think I got oh man, you got the throw on that ground
because I don't think I thought any knows. My biggest one was like I
didn't like the dick endthing, but that I've covered them all, So one
thing I will show out first though, So the kraken thing at the end,
when Aquamant called the creevious or I don't know, it's supposed to be
like one of the most powerful creatures in the world, and it's what's her
name, Julian Andrews the o G Mary. Oh really, lot's cool.
That's right, that's talking. It is doing so much better. So when
it was talking the whole time, were we event like, excuse me,
any regular Joe blow in that situation Atlantean? Would they have been able to
understand Julian Andrews like that, I don't talk to people or was that from
Aquaman where he is now actually an Aquamant's shoes or spirits and we were like
now listening to him and he didn't like, he didn't talk back to it
at any point. It was when he actually said stop and started to communicate,
then they connected because the way she was talking, she was actually talking
to him. She was just expressing about the talking about the situation. So
I took it as okay, okay, yeah, that's a fair Yeah,
no, that's fair enough. I never thought about that way because I thought
she was talking the whole time and he just said stop. You could be
right, because I think that was a little unclear if he could, because
I just took it as anybody could hear this fish, because I guess no,
because augumentalmen that can talk to the fish. I feel like they didn't
do the great shot explain that because they have these sharks that they're right here
and there, so I feel like there should be some communication there. But
either way, yeah, you could be right that maybe that was her in
her thoughts and then he said stop, or maybe he heard it and he
just let her monologue on, But you could you could be right, and
then maybe after it's yeah, so maybe it was just supposed to be like
her internal thoughts. So yeah, I haven't didn't think about that, but
that's what I thought, especially when she's like, no one has talked to
me since king uh what was his name? At Yeah, yeah, so
that's just what I thought. I just want pieces together. Black Man.
I loved how he just, you know, cool old style villain. He
just he had his agenda. He just wanted to tamashit. I like that
that file ballot at the end, there was a lot of dead fish.
Blow to the service, Like there's gonna be some fishermen and those like Japanese
fishing boats are gonna be going out there and they're gonna be making bank.
Like let's be honest, well send them a lot of equipment holes in them
though, so they'm gonna be able to use. But that both end now,
like those crab people and everything that I really enjoyed. There was so
much stuff going on, like when they when he can control the trench people
and ORMs just going through with like his big on crocodile thing like fighting all
the store. Yeah, it was so good, Like I guess we can
talk. I want to shut that out. I loved the trench scene.
It was so good. It was so scary. That was full on James
one and I liked. I like that whole sequence, the whole bold sequence
with the flares. I thought that was really well done. That was a
my point, like that might make it into best scenes for me for Golden
Geek because I just liked it. From starting defending, I got I got
some of about that. Oh that was it was a fantastic scene. But
like people out there still gamers, I'm gonna show up to the gamers so
you know when you are and I'm gonna resort to like Assassin's creed for example
here, so you're you go into your uh like a castle on Assassin's screen,
a base, and it's all it's a stealth mission. You have to
assassinate your target. It's a complete stealth mission. You go in and you
get caught by one guy, you know, he sounds the alarm. You're
like, fuck it, I'll just kill him and I'll keep going on this
mission. That one guy, you know, he sound the alarm. But
then it just starts to escalate more and more and more. I guess the
part where you're just like fuck it and you're running past these guards and it's
just gets so out of hand and it's like literally just way out of your
control. Half them that's exactly how knockman. I really like that. And
there was no no, no, I like that because there was the one
trench monster and then they dealt with it, and then I kept going and
it was like, yeah, a point where they're just like fuck it.
You know, they're in their home base of these trench monsters. You see
them looking up and like looking at them, and they were just being followed
by billions of these things. Yeah, Like I know we'd seen on the
trailer that shot of them with the flair going down, but on the big
screen it was so oh yeah, just that and it was scary. It
was heard. That's where I'm really glad, like James want delivered in that
moment because like as soon as they jumped off the ship and you see it
at that like that level, all of the men staring in here, they
go, I would hate to get in that situation. Yeah, so you
know, there's no going back once that boats. No, they were done.
So that was very cool. Yeah. The trench monsters absolutely terrifying.
The crab people were super cool. Mosesaurs and dinosaurs. They get my back
my army, but I'll never held it. It was my kid. I
was going on. Crab guy was fantastic. I did you feel the octops
playing drums? I'm okay with that. I don't. I liked it.
Yah, some people that's wrong with it, but I felt it fit in
the world. Everything else is being really goofy. Yeah, you know,
I if an octopus is playing drums, you know, I don't got a
problem with that. Like a spider playing the drums and bugs life, you
know, or or an ant playing drums and ant man Yeah exactly. Yeah,
Tren scene dude cracking was cool. Aquaman smashing the bell next to the
churt so when that bell was falling, I thought, legit, they were
gonna he was gonna grab the girl and the bell is gonna fall. I
was so cute. Yeah, I didn't expect. I was like, oh
my god, that was a pauper used a weapon though, because his mother
did that to save mirror. Remember they just like using their bodies to like
get animals and fishes out of the way. So yeah, that was really
I loved anytime too. Again they'd seen in the trip. I'm just seeing
the action man, just the beams, the sound, and just his eyes
were always steaming. Right after. I loved the look and everything they did.
Then his knife's coming out the Atlantic, I'm not damn still. Yeah,
yeah, I liked everything they did in that that set up there,
Yeah, yeah, I loved. How did you feel because this joke didn't
laugh for me? How did you feel when that guy got his tank broke
and he put his face in the toilet water to la crossed out? A
lot of sucks to be he doesn't know what it's for. Yeah, that's
true. Yeah, that's one that didn't didn't really hit what means didn't work
for it. It didn't work. I like the whole like don't drinking drives
made drown kind of thing they had. So like Arthur Kurr, obviously he
was drinking. His dad was passed out drunk, and now all of a
sudden tsunami comes. So you know, you gotta be beaco here because the
dad almost died. If he was like sober, he wouldn't know. He
could have held his breath and not capped off that water if mirror wasn't there.
You know, Oh you know, how about you drink? You know,
because you had a designated drivers. He didn't know there was gonna be
super that was gonna it was. He definitely was. Well, yeah,
Arthur Curry wasn't drunk. Yeah, how was there no tsunamis from the underwater
fights because there were enough. They're so low down, That's what I take
it. They're that deep down that I can exactly going to say like there's
enough going on down there that yeah, there's a massive tsunamis happening underwater.
Fight scenes are on power of space battle fight scenes for me. Oh yeah,
everyone, now yeah sea battles, Yeah, underwater sea battles, and
that's where it's at. So I like when the sharks went rogue and Aquaman
talks on the distress at ripping their caramel. Very I like it at one
point when they had like the sea horses and the sharks like facing off and
they're like trying to like buff each other out. It was good. I
got Power Ranger vibes from like the Underwater Stormtroopers, any anything. I got
Power Ranger by this whole movie. Black Bana, I didn't. I didn't
love his voice, and not the way I said, this is the non's
voice that should have been clear because I compared him to Bame and Batman.
Because I was like, lots of people complain about their voices and I never
get it. I do understand lots of people complain about their voices because I
can't understand them. I could understand back Nana. I just wish it was
like a little less rasp, being a little less robotic. I wish they
toned down a bit and gave it almost similar to because the actor is a
good voice, almost similar to what Stark has when he's in the suit,
like just a little bit. But I think I think with that the voice,
they made it to power Rangers. His voice I think too robotic for
me. Even the second time. It doesn't take away measure. It's just
a little thing like, Okay, I don't enjoy it as much. He
comes off a little too cheesy with the voice that, especially when he's saying
I'm gonna cut you like a fish and all these lines. So all those
guys were full of power Rangers. Oh yeah. I like how that one
scientist guy every time on TV he's like Atlantis is real. The guy's like,
you're just crazy, pretty sure. They can all commands a real thing.
It's I always hate that in movies when they do. I did not
because he's the same guy from him in the Wall. I didn't like him
in the Snoo. It felt because I don't know, it just it was
weird now that stuff was needed. I don't. I'm not gonna like if
he's like black Man as partner in the next movie. I didn't and not
like that actor. I really like him in other things, especially the interview
at James Ranglin Sea, but I did I did not care for his character
in this movie. Yeah, the Center of the Earth was cool. The
dinosaurs, yeah, there was a movie or always great. I like that.
Every time we went to somewhere new, there's a nice little thing at
the bottom. I really enjoyed Rogue One did that because that was my problem
with ports Wagan's after saw the movie. Other than Jaku, I didn't know
the name of any plan it there. So I don't know if every moonings
to do it. But when you have a movie that switches setting so much,
I like it because, like, okay, I have an idea.
Even anytime it was black Man, it was like somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean,
somewhere in the north end on the ocean, they ran in the name.
It's like someone was like, okay, fair enough, Yeah cool Green
Goblin was cool. Good Green Golbin's not in this movie. Coman's armor was
sick quick the last one. It's so good. Oh. I means that
might be the best looking suit in the DC universe, and be compared to
Marvel, I think it's top five up there. It's up there with an
Iron Man, It's up there with I don't know what else is like,
I need to think of all the suits, because I'm not a biggest fan
of Spider Man's suit, so he's knocked down. For me, it's all
about that, Toby. I'm trying to think, like, what's the best
MCU like suit going on? Uh like yeah, like even like like they're
all calm accurate like ann But it's like that Alkman suit is just so cool.
It's not the fact that it's like the color scheme. It's just the
way they did the armor and the spikes and this sparkles that, especially when
it was him and orm in the final fight back to back of that purple.
The castumes in this sween are ridiculous. It looks so good. Yeah,
yeah, I agree. Yeah. My last thing is that dual firefights
San. I love when the stats were in the background. I had all
the pros and cons in that one. Yeah, friend loves earthy people whatever.
That was really good. Yeah. Yeah, So that's all I got,
Taylor, What are your final thoughts and when are you gonna give this
movie? You know, I feel like this is definitely a second a second
win for DC and you know what do we have next? Wonder Woman too?
First of all, says a guy who's given suicide Squad ten ten,
BBS like a nine. You hear you think they've been winning ever since,
ever since BBS, I didn't like man still there's a BBF. They've been
on a winning streak for you, like GI him a high score for Justice
League. You weren't all that, so I'll never know. And the like
Assassin's Creek came out or something, yeah, yeah, no, next to
Sam in April, oh yeah, and then uh sh because I'm just trying
to figure out the order. I thought there was maybe one more between Shazam
and Wonder them, but even the Shazam one of them nineteen eighty four,
and then they're starting that birds pretty Harley Quinn movie. And then also the
one we're getting for next year is Joker, right, So those are the
four main ones for sure happening. Yeah, No, I feel like this
was a great way to end the year off for DC. Honestly, my
I'm super excited for Shazam. I got an Yeah, I'm super excited,
and obviously Wonder Woman is just great. I feel like this was definitely it
was just it was a good film. Like, yes, it was long,
it's my only takeaway from it. But there were lots of stuff.
Lots of things going on in the film that really pulled me in and had
me entertained and excited and many things that just really was like eye candy for
me. I feel like, uh, Arthur Curry was definitely Curry brother.
He was just a human. I feel like Arthur Curry was just great.
I loved him in Obviously Justice League was are my favorite points and uh,
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Justice League review because I feel like I talked
about it. It was Golden Geeks. He tried to get him in the
best Acting category and it's like, no chance he's not in the movie.
I'm gonna push for this year. I would, but it's a tough line
up this year. I don't want to spoil it for the cast. But
it's do you have a list? No, okay, because I'll throw them
home. We're off the cast. But and there's still a few movies you
gotta watch, you know, Yeah, I don't need them. I don't
need that full list of movies I gonna watch, so I can certe.
What is your number? Score? I will give this. I give it
like a may I'll go your bumblebee score? A seven? Yeah, A
seven, so I gave them. Yeah, I'm giving the seven same things.
I laughed that we joked about in our bumble review that Dad Mary Poppins,
I'll come in about the same cinema score, and a minus cinema score
is like a real way of audience. That's why they do test one.
I maybe what. I'm sure it's fine Mane. I'm never gonna see it.
That Woude is not happening from good old Tras Snail. But yeah,
I same thing. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it's a visualsm Morgas board.
I love the action this movie. I like a lot of the characters.
The villains disappoint me for different reasons. Black Man I wish was used
a bit better, and I guess or the same thing. I just wish
his character, I guess man, I wish he was integrating the story war
and I wish arms motives were a bit more flesh out instead of just killing
the poor fishermanking. And then he just went full on or killing the crown
people like it was just full on, Like just add some more depth there.
But those are my biggest cons. I didn't think it was too long
because I just loved it. I'm excited to see it again. I don't
think I've seen it in theaters. I'm like your your bumble Bee. I
think two is enough for me. But this is what I'm gonna watch again.
And yeah, I'm excited see what DC does and I'll see movies doing
well. So I'd very much like to see where they take the sequel,
and I hopefully black Man has a very role. But uh, yeah,
I really enjoyed. So yeah, seven at ten for me, I enjoy
it just as much as Bumblebee had cons for different reasons. And yeah,
so one last thing I'll point out, So, do you feel like there
is you know for Orm? You know, he he kept pushing that final
assault. But the fact that you know, Aquaman came out of this giant,
most powerful creature in the whole world. It's like through the ocean floor
he used to appeared and Orm didn't back down. You feel like, you
know, any sane person within Okay, this guy is totally the true king.
He found the trite and he's rocking the King's armor and he just popped
up on this massive creature like, you know, hands down, you can
be king. So what's your question? You're saying, like, like I
feel like Orm was totally unjustified like in his action, but he's still he
still thinks he needs to be beating in him hand combat though, right it's
like a black beanther thing. It's like when it comes down to that,
you know, can you win? And he won, but he took him
on land, so really they're kind of tied. And Calmbat because he took
Orm was in his element. But then like mir says, take him in
your So really they're tied. You know, they should have another one.
Yeah, and like really Aquaman he lost really like big time because he left
the fight where Orm was like kill me. So yeah, so yeah that's
true. Where can they find if they're on a boat, you know,
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