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But we do still have our buddy
brad here. Like we we know

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that animal fighting might not be everybody's
cup of tea, it might not be

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for you, but Bradley's so much
more than that. It's a very very

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well rounded individual. I'm really not
this is all I got going on.

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It's more than animal fights. And
I think I brought this up to you

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the last time you were on with
us. Is you're your acumen for history

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and history knowledge. It goes so
much beyond the surface of of what maybe

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the more common, uh understanding that
we have of history is. And Mikey,

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you asked him a question earlier and
it was a really bizarre, all

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encompassing question, but I loved Brad's
answer. It's because he's got this new

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book out dropped yesterday, Roman Spectacle
on the Rio Grand. Where do people

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get it? You can get it, Amazon, Barnes, and Noble,

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should be all major bookstores. Book's
a million, So he likes writing book.

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But he's also getting big on YouTube. So if you're on YouTube,

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historro it's history with an O instead
of a Y, and just subscribe because

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it doesn't cost a dollar, you
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Brad Historo. I just subscribed and
I glanced at his thing and he's got

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a ton of videos with just the
Texas history and different angles, and I'm

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like, you know what, I'm
just gonna ask him the most generic question,

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which was, what's as a history
professor and expert, like, what's

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something in American history that's just amazing
yet no one either knows about or really

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talks about. So my answer was
the McKinley assassination, but in particular the

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Garfield assassination. So we have this
fascination with the JFK assassination, and I'm

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saying assassination a lot, but McKinley
and Garfield, and Garfield in particular,

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the story behind it is just so
wild ass. So the guy that assassinated

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Garfield grew up in a cult,
this oneited cult in New York, where,

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like the whole deal was you get
closer to God by having as much

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sex as possible. So this is
the mid eighteen hundred. It seems awesome.

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Mikey and I are big fans of
God. Well, well, apparently

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Charles Gutteau guy, this assassin was
so good. We want to get closer

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to the sorry. But but anyway, the women of the cult did not

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did not want to have sex with
him because he was so creepy. So

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they end up getting kicked out of
the cult, which I don't know how

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hard that would be to do.
Became sort of a near to well,

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wrote his own Bible and then this
is kind of a Korreesh type almost,

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but he doesn't have the charisma of
Korresh. It was just like a non

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charismatic guy. Y'all know what's happening
with the story on the Garfield discussion.

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This is dropped like yesterday, and
I've I put it aside as a link

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because I thought we might discuss at
some point. Okay, So there's a

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big TV show that's coming out and
it's going to be starring Michael Shannon perfect

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Great and Tom from Succession. And
this is why it's a story because Tom

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from Succession, Martin mcfaden or Michael
mcfaden what revers is Matthew mcfaden his first

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role after Succession is going to be
in this show that is detailing the assassination

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of James Garfield. But you know
from the producers from the producers of Game

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of Thrones. What is this an
HBO thing? They don't know yet.

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I think it's going to be Netflix, I believe. Okay, I think

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it's Netflix because I wanted it to
be HBO. Does it show who's going

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to play Charles Gutow, because that
guy's crazy. Charles Gooto is gonna be

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played by Martin mcphaden. Matthew mcfaden, who is Tom from Succession. James

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Garfield will be played by Michael Shannon, because Michael Shannon's the greatest creep actor

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of all for sure. Yeah.
I was thinking he'd be perfect as good

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Toe, but a bit younger like
guit too, like twenty or something.

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Here's the description because this might wet
your beak here. Death by Lightning is

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a drama series that brings to life
the epic and stranger the fiction true story

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of James Garfield, the reluctant twentieth
President of the United States, and his

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greatest admirer, Charles Getou, the
man who would come to kill him.

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So you're probably gonna show a big
like Toes, like following him and worshiping

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him and then ends up killing him. Well, there you go, see

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it? Shows how ahead of the
game Bradley is. We just asked him

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amazing came up with. So this
Guitto guy is very much like a David

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Koresh type, but without the charisma. Yeah, nobody wanted to buy his

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bible. He wrote this bible,
he actually had to get like he sent

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it to publishers, none of them
would publish it. He got some guy

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with a printing press in his garage
to print it out and uh, and

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then he tried to sell it.
Nobody wanted to buy and so he ended

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up uh never paying the guy.
And this guy just had like a garage

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full of these the weird bibles up
much like Roman Spectacle on the Rio Grand

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the new book from Bradley, No, that is going to You're going to

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bring me so many uh so many
purchases. If every one of our listeners,

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wise ones, you are in trouble. Uh all right, Just to

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wrap this up again, this is
this is his book. And because at

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the border, the Texas Mexico border
right at the turn of the century nineteen

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hundred, at a time, promoters
would put on these animal fights. So

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we do have some listeners submitted animal
fights. But before we get to them,

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real world. Okay, real quick? Elephant verse five bulls? Was

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it? Yeah? Elephant versus four
bulls? How do we do there?

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So basically, the elephant obviously is
gonna win, although the the there's one

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part and some of the Again,
some of these newspapers are sensationalized, so

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picking through what's real and what's not
pretty much a problem. But it's like

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today. Absolutely, But supposedly one
of the bulls did knock the elephant over,

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but and again I don't know if
this parts true. The bull and

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then gets I'm sorry. The elephant
then gets mad and picks up the bull

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with its trunk and throws it out
of the the bull ring. I don't

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know if I believe that it all
the way over the Rio Grand and yeah,

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throw it over the Rio Grand,
still flying in the sun at the

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top of the wall. All right. So through extensive research and the battles

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that you could find and read about, who is the what Anna? Well,

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I don't know. I don't want
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mean, Elephant's gonna be elephant is
the king of them all. Yeah,

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So in ancient Roman times they would
fight elephants against rhinos, and you can

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find some of these things on YouTube
these days because they naturally, uh you

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know, in the same habitat.
So they'll fight in the wild. But

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the Romans would bring elephants and rhinos, and unfortunately we don't have a recording

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of their fight. We have like
coins and like mosaics of it. But

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I think the elephant would win most
of those versus the rhinos sort of supposition,

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just the way the coins are depicted
and things like that, So you

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think you got elephant number one,
and that just makes sense. It's way

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heavy than everything else. Okay,
So the unassuming hippopotamus though, is always

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at the top of that list too, as far as maybe most mostly to

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humans. So unfortunately the hippopotamus I
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with the hippotamus. There's one account
where I don't again, I don't know

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if I believe this one where a
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the same enclosure because they're assuming they
were going to be peaceful towards one another,

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but then the hippo got aggressive towards
the kangaroo, and the kangaroo supposedly

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kicked the hippopotamus in the face,
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I don't know if I believe that
one, though, Yeah, and

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I would bet fear and animals backing
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Sure, Like he's just like,
what's this weird creature kicks me in the

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nose? That I guess that kind
of makes sense. Yeah, back off,

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Brad. A couple texts coming in
what's the name of the serial killer?

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Apache book? So it's a son
of venge, Okay? Yeah,

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And you know, I was kind
of hoping that we have all these murder

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podcasts. I was hoping some of
them would pick it up because this guy

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literally murdered more people than anybody else. So I think the biggest serial killer

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in the United States is Samuel Little
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And then I think in Mexico you
probably have some cartel guy, but I

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don't think anybody anywhere close to two
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you exclude like soldiers and stuff in
war, I'm pretty sure he's probably the

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most prolific killer in history, or
one of them at least, you know,

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get some quick ones from the text
before we get to our talkbacks here,

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please ask him who will win Siberian
tiger versus polar bear. I've had

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this debate with my best friend for
years, to the point where we agreed

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to find out once we get rich. So I don't think that one has

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happened. There was a polar bear
fight in Rome, which is kind of

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weird. I don't know where they
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albino bear or a pole bear.
But in Roman records it says in the

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introducing the colisseum to fight was a
white bear. So uh, but but

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I don't the records don't say what
it went against and who won. In

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eighteen ninety three in Paris they had
a polar bear fight. It may have

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been a tiger, but I don't
remember off the top of my head.

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But if you, you know,
want to go to like newspapers dot com

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do eighteen ninety three polar bear.
There's a fight that happened in Paris,

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and I just don't remember off the
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who would you take in that fight? The polar bear is so rare that

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I'd go with the polar bear just
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Okay, I kind of agree,
and you wouldn't have a polar bear fight

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now clearly because there's just one left
him versus who chimp versus Rothwiler. So

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that actually happened this world. It's
I don't know if it was a it

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might have been a pit bull off
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was in New Orleans. They put
them together, and if I remember correctly,

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I think, you know, the
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I don't even want to get into
the genitals, but like bit the skull

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of the dog or something like that. But I think the chimp ended up

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dying as well. Again, that
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of my head. I just can't
remember the particular details of it. And

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clearly there are no winners in animal
fighting. We're discussing history. Yeah,

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so other people don't stage just because
you know, they know the results really

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happen. We're heroes, Yeah happening, Okay, silverbackguerrilla versus grizzly bear.

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All right, so the silverback guerrilla
is incredibly rare to find fights with them

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because they are rare, Like we
didn't know they were species until the eighteen

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fifties. So I've only been able
to find one fight with a a gorilla,

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and that was in nineteen sixty and
the Spokane, Washington Zoo. The

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gorilla was messing with the padlock between
its cage in the cage of a cougar

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like a mountain lion, and they
got in the same cage. Supposedly this

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was videotaped and put into a movie. I haven't seen it. I just

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don't know if the movie even exists
anymore, but somebody filmed it. But

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the cougar ended up beating the gorilla, Like really, yeah, yeah,

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you're amazing. Just you're naming locations
and years. Yea, sometimes I'll forget

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the results, you know. Yeah, So that's all right. Just the

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setting is good enough, all right, man. That's kind of all we

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got there on all the questions of
these fighting. This segment's brought to you

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by Alamo Draft House Cinema. And
maybe one day they will take one of

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Brad's three books and make a movie
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of the five DFW locations of Alamo
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this book that he's just dropped in
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movie to see. I agree,
hard to make though, right, I

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think what we watched? What do
we watch? You that right of a

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bottle rocket and the two of the
trailers were h King Kong and Godzilla versus

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the planet or whatever? And then
the new Planet of the Apes is like

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that. They have the you know, technology to make these animal fights from

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one hundred years ago. That's true. So we need Michael Bay to get

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on board, yeah, and buy
the rights to your book to make it

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a movie. The book is Roman
Spectacle on the Rio, Grand Bradley fulsome

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Yah. The author always interesting and
wheels off to have you and you get

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a little bit. You can chill
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leave talkbacks cool. Here we go
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little pieces of that puzzle, misfitting
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music, he's in the Saints,
And you did not mention the nine to

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eleven song. I would have figured
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it, and we had the burden
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great day, Thank you for listening. But also you missed the six am

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segment because we did play that.
We did, like the six Am three

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and a half segments on Toby Keith. Yeah, by a couple of talkbacks

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that we're saying, why didn't you
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Blue song? I know the seven
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through some of his top number one
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we just played it in the six
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We it's clearly a part of the
the Toby Keiths stork and hear it

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on the podcast All right boys,
lock this three leg parlay in over on

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the National Anthem. Yes, Mike
Tyson scene with Taylor Swift and the third

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over one and a half Double Doggers
in the Super Bowl. Lock it in,

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Dang over one and a half Double
Dogs, two Double Doggers and Mike

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Tyson next to Taylor Swift on CBS's
new dog Cam. That is gonna pay

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a lot parlay. Wow over that's
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Yes here, I am this morning
and my bulldozers saddened by the news

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of Toby Keith's death, singing every
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And then Danny references the guy in
the caterpillar hat, and I realized he's

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talking about me. Well, boys, I love y'all, love America,

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I love Toby Keith. There you
go. Nine seven won the Freak Stay

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Freaky Boys. Hell, Yes,
dude, thank you. I knew when

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Danny was saying that too. There's
a lot of people going yep, that's

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well once again from the text message, Hey guys, can you go over

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the Animal Fight book title again?
Roman Spectacle on the Rio Grand by Bradley

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Fulsome Yes get it on Amazon dropped
yesterday Birthday Okay, the double Birthday Rick

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Roll Rick Astley's birthday and Tom broke
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the phone up next to well.
I don't know however he did it,

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Tom or Richard Weird. I myself
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is. The amount of respect that
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down just right. I think you
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and he's gonna be sorely missed.
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the American way. I bet the
streaming on that. Boy. Well,

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I'll tell you what. I may
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slat out to Josie and be like, hey, do you got a

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need Toby Keiths records. You need
that in your vinyl collection, Kevin now,

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because it'll be worth a lot,
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But I bet courtesy the Red,
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election year. Lookout, Hey,
good morning guys. Hey, he's very

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shocked by the that segment the most
important thing in the world. Just super

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sad, upset. I don't know
any awards. I cannot believe that every

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grocery store, every pharmacy is out
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tough day. What a fifteen seconds
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was going to be doing buffoonery.
I knew it is that fake messy.

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Probably, Oh that's right. I
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too, and we got it salted
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week. Hey guys, I'm playing
Madden right now, and it's funny because

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I'm the Bears and I'm playing against
the Lions, so I'm guessing I'm gonna

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win judging by the expert. Thank
y'all. I love the guy who's playing

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Madden at nine am on a Tuesday
morning. Beautiful, that's beautiful. Who

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would win a let's say, one
hundred chiefs against one hundred and forty nine

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ers all weaponry and tools Bradley fulsome
expert on interspecies cage fighting. The answer

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to that is probably depressing. So
I don't wanna you actually had that.

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We already did that. Yeah,
you know, we did a segment.

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A friend of mine who had a
segment called Kemp Spin did a full segment

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on the forty nine ers and how
they got their name and the history of

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all that, and it pretty much
was really gross. Yeah, it was

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that. That's not a fun one. Yeah. Okay, is that Jake

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Kemp from the Dumb Zone podcast?
Yeah? Back the same cool dude.

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Do you have a Super Bowl prediction? Brad? I don't know you're gonna

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watch it? Yeah, I'm gonna
watch the Chiefs. I guess anything of

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Taylor Swift? Fine? Yeah,
you're not shaking with rage and the punching

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your cell phone every time news of
her comes on. I don't know.

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I don't hate her and I don't
love her. It's just I'm indifferent.

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It's probably the most rare Taylor Swift
opinion. Now, if you could get

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Taylor Swift and Beyonce in an arena
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be very interesting. That's very interesting. Yeah yeah, yeah, measurables,

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ragged all old hate. I think
can we have you back in March to

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fill out our sixty fourteen March Madness
bracket based on who would win? I've

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got nothing better to do, so
yes, I kind of want to see

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the Wake Force demon Deacons. They
would fair against the mean Green of North

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Texas. You know whatever those are
screaming eagles? Yeah? How was green

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a thing like that's the weirdest mascot
as a person that went to you.

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And yeah, I did that more
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think they realized eagles is generous.
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That's and then also are they more
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thing. I think they're deacons.
They're just inspired by the dark side.

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You know, maybe we'll cancel this
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We don't need you back. It's
going to happen now got watered down,

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you know, open that day up
on the I coun hey by Brad's

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book Roman Spectacle on the Rio Grande, or at least go on YouTube and

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click on Histoic instead of a Y
and uh support Brad. We love having

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you in the textures almost unanimously found
you very interesting and love all he is

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the expert. Loved all the good
good Thank you Brad. Thanks

