1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,040
Well, I mean the solutions to
me is, you know, you have

2
00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,160
to put more money into the small
business. I mean, small business is

3
00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,839
the backboto of the economy. It
always has been. I mean we're talking.

4
00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,480
I think it's like forty five percent
of the economy is driven by small

5
00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,399
business, and so you have to
really look at programs that's going to help

6
00:00:16,559 --> 00:00:20,280
small businesses grow. And when those
small businesses grow, more money's put into

7
00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,920
the economy, and that's how everything
grows from the bottom up. Really,

8
00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,440
you're listening to carry Lutz's Financial Survival
Network, where you get valuable information you

9
00:00:29,559 --> 00:00:34,840
just can't find anywhere else to thrive
in today's trying times. You need the

10
00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:40,960
Financial Survival Network now more than ever. Go to Financial Survival and Network dot

11
00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:47,719
com and get your free newsletter and
gift. Financial Survival Network now more than

12
00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:55,679
ever. Welcome, you are listening
to watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm

13
00:00:55,679 --> 00:00:59,920
your host Carry Lutz. Hey,
we're just about into September, the core

14
00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,840
of crashes, so it's appropriate that
we talk to Herman Deboord. Herman your

15
00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:12,480
Air Force veteran and currently working towards
the goal of connecting the world like never

16
00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:18,200
before. We appreciate you coming on, or are we talking about the flaws

17
00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,439
of the current occupants of the White
House so called biden Nomics, where it's

18
00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,680
gone wrong and how it's hurting small
business Herman, Welcome aboard, Thank you,

19
00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:32,719
thanks for having me. So biden
Omics, what exactly is it,

20
00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,879
because I don't really know what it
is. Well, I mean, what

21
00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:41,640
it seems like is it's a program
that's helping larger businesses. They're actually putting

22
00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,079
money into larger businesses, but it's
killing the small business. I've been starting

23
00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,879
businesses since two thousand and five.
This is my fourth business that I've started.

24
00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,680
I've exited the other three, and
so it was much easier when I

25
00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,920
was when I was doing this earlier. And now inflation and I mean they

26
00:01:57,959 --> 00:02:02,439
says biden Omics to me, it's
just an inflation tool that's just killing us.

27
00:02:02,519 --> 00:02:09,000
From manufacturing to employee charges to you
know, trying to find credit for

28
00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:14,120
different things for your business. It's
it's just gotten way out of hand for

29
00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:19,360
the small business. That's death by
a thousand cuts. Absolutely absolutely, yes,

30
00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,639
I mean we have we have independent
contractors. Half of our businesses,

31
00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:29,400
the service business, half of our
businesses manufacturing with different things like fiber optics,

32
00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:31,280
and so if we're in the service
side, we have to look at,

33
00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,599
you know, how much are we
paying our employees, how much are

34
00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:38,800
we paying our contractors because they have
to survive in this economy that is obviously

35
00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,120
failing. And then from the manufacturing
side, you know, it takes a

36
00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:49,560
lot of money to get things manufactured
and get them into different clients. And

37
00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:53,560
so even that has been very,
very difficult to not only find products,

38
00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,479
but to find the credit you need
to get those things going. Right.

39
00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,439
Yeah, the credit to crunch now
that's taking place due to the banking crisis

40
00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,599
is kind of the final deathbale.
We had the pandemic for two years.

41
00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:15,000
It's stifled businesses in many states across
the country, and we're just barely recovering

42
00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:20,000
from it. I was in the
Las Vegas and my barometer was I was

43
00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,800
on the upper floors of the Canal
Shops, which part of the Venetian and

44
00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:30,719
the last time I was there,
i'd say about three quarters, two thirds,

45
00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:37,840
three quarters of the shops we're basically
gone. Now the stores are mostly

46
00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:42,120
full with what I've seen has happened
along the theme you're talking about is that

47
00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:46,439
the bigger retailers, the luxury retailers, the Louis Vutals, the Gucci's,

48
00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:53,719
all of them have expanded what were
smaller stores into larger areas. But I

49
00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:57,199
haven't seen the smaller companies come back
yet. Yeah, and that's going to

50
00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,680
be a problem. I was just
in Vegas last week actually, where we're

51
00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080
expanding into that area too, and
I think you're right. I was over

52
00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:06,759
at Aria and when you walk through
their shops, that's what you're seeing.

53
00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:14,039
You're seeing the Louis Battons, you're
seeing the mulatto as, you're seeing everything

54
00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,439
that's getting bigger. All those stores
are getting bigger. But there was very

55
00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:21,079
few people actually in there shopping as
well. And so yeah, I think

56
00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:26,279
now we're looking at there, they're
threatening that another wave of the pandemic is

57
00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:29,279
going to come back. And what's
that going to do to us in the

58
00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:32,800
small business world? Good question?
All right, So solutions here? What

59
00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,600
are the solutions? Well, I
mean the solutions to me is, you

60
00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,399
know, you have to put more
money into the small business. I mean,

61
00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:43,079
small business is the backboto of the
economy. It always has been.

62
00:04:43,079 --> 00:04:46,519
I mean we're talking I think it's
like forty five percent of the economy is

63
00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,879
driven by small business and so you
have to really look at programs that's going

64
00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,879
to help small businesses grow. And
when those small businesses grow, more money's

65
00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,600
put into the economy, and that's
how everything grows from the bottom up.

66
00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:01,160
Really right now, looking at this
this kind of a top down approach,

67
00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,240
which is kind of odds for a
democratic system to be doing that, a

68
00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:11,040
democrat regime or whatever you want to
call it. But I think that's the

69
00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:15,600
solution, is you've got to look
at better programs for small businesses that puts

70
00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:19,000
more funding into that instead of billions
of dollars elsewhere. We could we could

71
00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,800
really fix our economy right here.
Yeah, But don't you think it's good

72
00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:27,920
to have a green economy? Do
I think it's good to have a green

73
00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:32,199
economy. I think it's premature for
agreen with green economy, I really do.

74
00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,360
I think you're looking at decades out
and I don't think that's doing any

75
00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,319
good right now. I really don't, at least not for my me and

76
00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:44,399
my business. Yeah, but climate
change, you know, it's destroying the

77
00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:48,120
country in the world, isn't it. Well, I mean there's a lot

78
00:05:48,199 --> 00:05:54,160
of I think there's a lot of
assumptions that are that are made around that,

79
00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,240
where you know, we have to
go green, we have to have

80
00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,519
electric cars. But then you know, you look at the other side of

81
00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:03,160
the argument where electric cars are still
powered by you know, coal and natural

82
00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:08,759
gases, and it's, uh,
it's it's kind of a funny situation that

83
00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,120
we have going on here. So
you know, I just think we don't

84
00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,639
have the infrastructure right now to set
m up green economy. It's great that

85
00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,199
they're trying, but I think they're
they're just going a little too far right

86
00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,920
now, and it's damaging the economy
to to a point where I hope we

87
00:06:23,959 --> 00:06:26,199
can get it back. But again, if we have this second wave of

88
00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,439
this this pandemic and they start forcing
everybody on lockdowns, it's it's probably going

89
00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,839
to get more ugly than it is
now. You think lockdowns are coming,

90
00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:39,399
I mean that's what I'm hearing.
So you know, only time will tell.

91
00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:44,720
But they're talking about this new wave
of of COVID and uh MASK mandates

92
00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,319
are already happening in a couple of
states, and at one university I heard

93
00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:50,560
yesterday, I know I'm going to
do lockdowns again. Herman I got to

94
00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,879
take issue with you. They might
do the mask ridiculousness, but they're not

95
00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:00,360
doing lockdowns again. I don't think
it's ever got I didn't go for that.

96
00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,360
Here where I live, we didn't
go for the lockdowns last time,

97
00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:06,240
so you know, I guess a
lot of the country did, though.

98
00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,959
They just did whatever they were told. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't

99
00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:14,560
put it past them to try it. I just I wouldn't. I just

100
00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,639
don't think it's going to happen,
honestly, because the only reason it could

101
00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:23,000
happen was that all the states,
to some extent, maybe South Dakota didn't

102
00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:27,399
do it, but everybody did a
lockdown of some sort. And the states

103
00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:33,600
that ended their lockdowns before the other
states that kept them going had no worse

104
00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:40,199
mortality on a per capita basis,
even less in Florida than they did in

105
00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:45,480
New York, in Pennsylvania and other
godforsaken places. Like I agree with you,

106
00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,439
I completely agree with that, and
I think our we're in Colorado,

107
00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,120
and you know, they had lockdowns. This is a Democrat run state,

108
00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:56,000
but in my area, in my
city, in El Paso County, it's

109
00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,279
more Republican side, So we didn't
really go some of moneard them and they

110
00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,639
way away see how that works.
But but seriously, over half the states

111
00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,079
will not do a lockdown of any
description, so that means that the other

112
00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,120
states do, and then that accelerates
the flight of citizens out of there.

113
00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,399
I mean, hey, I'm in
Florida. It's the worst thing that ever

114
00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,920
happened to this state and the best
thing. You know, population went up

115
00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:28,839
five or ten percent, and you
know, we're still trying to deal with

116
00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:33,120
all the arriving residents. We still
have a shortage of housing inventory. No,

117
00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,639
I think that is a pig in
a poop. They might try the

118
00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,679
masking, but I think a lot
of states won't even bother with that nonsense

119
00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,120
anymore either. Yeah, you know, and I travel a lot for my

120
00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:48,440
business, so you know, I'm
not looking forward to seeing what the airlines

121
00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,799
are going to do and seeing what
the hotels are going to do, because

122
00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:54,919
I'm in different states all the time, and it's it's just interesting to see,

123
00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,320
like you said, how each state
handles it very differently. Yeah,

124
00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,759
this is a red herring. They're
getting ready to do something else, and

125
00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,960
this is what they're throwing at us
to distract your tension from it. Hey,

126
00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,159
so three things the current administration could
do tomorrow to help lift the burden

127
00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,440
on small business. You know,
I think they've got to open up more

128
00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,559
funding for small business. They've got
to out they've got to create the credit

129
00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:22,600
lines that we need by reducing the
interest rates. And I think we've got

130
00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,279
to open up more manufacturing lanes for
us for those of us that are in

131
00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,600
the manufacturing era. And so you
know, it's to me if he just

132
00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:33,919
did those three things, that would
help us tremendously. All right, But

133
00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:39,000
you know the problem is government did
all those p PP loans, well,

134
00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:45,879
the EIDL loans rants, and like
fifteen percent of it got stolen. Right,

135
00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,639
going to be any better at it
this time? Herman? Probably not.

136
00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:52,080
I mean it's the government. I
mean I spent thirteen years in the

137
00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,399
government, and I know how corrupt
it can be, and so you know,

138
00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,840
it's I don't think they can do
better at it, but they have

139
00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:03,039
to figure out a way to get
more more funds into the small business owners.

140
00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,120
I think that PPP thing that was
that was kind of a joke where

141
00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:09,639
you know, they had billions of
dollars stolen in that where people were just

142
00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:13,759
buying cars and houses, and you
know, I'm not sure I didn't apply

143
00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:18,799
for that, so I'm not sure
what the criteria was. But anyway,

144
00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,120
I mean that's I don't know that
they could do it better, but they

145
00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,279
definitely need to start doing something for
it. All right, Well, we

146
00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,799
agree with you there, Hey,
Herman website way for people to connect with

147
00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,879
you on the web. Yeah.
Yeah, our our companies Hoover dot com,

148
00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:35,559
HUVR dot com. Uh, and
we've got some pretty interesting things going

149
00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,159
on for sure. All right.
Link in the show notes this interview on

150
00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:43,559
Financial Survival Network dot com. Make
sure you sign up for your free newsletter.

151
00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:48,679
Question for Herman myself email k l
at Kerry Lads dot com. Herman,

152
00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:50,879
thanks so much for stopping by,
pleasure to speak with you. Thank

153
00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:56,399
you, Carry, thanks for listening
to Carry Leeds's Financial Survival Network your solution

154
00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:03,240
to today's trying times for the Let
us go to Financial Survival Network dot com.

155
00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:07,080
Financial Survival Network now more than ever
