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Hello, and welcome to the Parenting
Roundabout Podcast for the week of December fourth.

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I'm Catherine Hailecho and I'm here with
Terry Morrow. Hello for a weekly

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episode to talk about parenting in a
roundabout way, along with a little pop

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culture or pop culture should we say? Is I hear you have an update

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on your dog boarding dilemma that you
talked about a little while ago. Yeah,

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a few weeks ago, I was
talking about boarding the dog when we

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went away for a winter vacation,
and I was worried about the place we

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had chosen. But I didn't really
know what else to do, and it

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just seemed like there were nothing but
bad choices. But we did commit to

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one place. I made a deposit, and then my sister in law and

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brother in law and their kids came
to our house for a Thanksgiving race.

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I think we discussed that and they
brought their dog with them, and the

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two dogs got along amazingly. I
was really worried about them bringing their dog

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because I'm like, what if they
don't like each other, It's really difficult,

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But no, they just say from
the first moment, tails wagging,

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they were biting each other's faces and
just having the best time. We took

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them out in the yard and they
chased each other around, tails wagging,

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and then came back in the house
and they were still doing the same thing,

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really having fun together. They were
both covered with drowel by the end

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of the time, but they seemed
super happy. So my sister in law

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said, why don't we just take
her when you guys go away, and

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then the two dogs can have fun
together. It'd be good for their dog

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and be good for our dog.
And so that's what we did. I

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canceled the border and that is the
plan now. I sure hope it goes

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smoothly. The the most difficult part
of the plan is that they live in

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Pennsylvania and we live in New Jersey, and so we have to get the

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dog there before we go to New
York. And there is different ways to

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do it, but all of them
add considerable time to our trip. So

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I, you know, that is
a wrinkle that still needs to be figured

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out, but it's worth figuring out, yeah, to have her go stay

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with family and then we hope that
the two dogs continue to love each other

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for an entire week. Right,
And it's not like, you know,

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you go over to your cousin's house, and it's real fun for like a

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day or two, and then you
get tired of each other, and then

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you have some little squabble, and
then they're tired of you playing their toy

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with their toys and don't want you
to touch their toys anymore, and your

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aunt has to run interference, and
it's just when can I go home?

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Right? So hopefully dogs are better
than children in this respect and do not

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get sick of each other in seven
or eight days. Right, And she

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behaves and is a good house guest
and doesn't poop on the floor or you

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know, knock things down, do
things that we allow her to do that

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other people would not allow her to
do, like jump up on you.

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Right. She jumps up on us, but only when invited, you know,

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the tap top on the chest.
She waits for the tap tap on

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the chest and the tes and you
know, the tap tap on the lap,

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and then she jumps up. But
she know she doesn't like jump on

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you as you're coming up the stairs
or anything. Ye. And yet I

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feel that there are people who would
say, do not allow your dog to

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do that. That's better, Yeah, But it's different if if they're doing

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it on command versus in a spirit
of play. Yeah, well, it's

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so nice that it's so nice that
your sister in law invited her, you

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know, so that you didn't have
to be like, do you think maybe

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you I think she was appalled that
I was going to take her to a

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border because her dog also has a
rescue of history, and so, I

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mean, I feel terrible about sending
her someplace where she's going to be in

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a cage and think that she's been
given up again. But you know,

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sometimes you have to make decisions that
stick. So I think she was maybe

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rescuing her from from my bad decision. So well, the outcome is the

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same. That's right, that's right. I gave her. I waited a

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few days. I gave her a
chance to think about it twice and say,

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what did I just volunteer to do? I said, nope, nope,

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we're already. The dog's excited.
I don't know how the dog tells

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her she excited. Well, but
my dog Layla does seem to be looking

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around for that fun dog the humans
here, Now, where's that dog?

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There's the dog here? Before?
By that dog? You guys are boring?

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Do your dogs have dog friends?
Because this is the first dog friend

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Laila has had, and in fact, our past dogs never really had any

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interaction with other dogs except just very
casual. Yeah. Well, of course

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they have each other. That's a
big thing. See, this is what's

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going to come of this, is
that we're going to have to get another

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dog. Yeah, it's really not
much more to deal with than one say

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about children, if you found that
to be true. No, but anyway,

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Yeah, they have each other.
And also when they do because they

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have to go to a kennel sometimes
and they stay together, you know,

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they have a shared room when they
do that, so that is nice.

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And then we have neighbor dogs.
We have we have two houses and yards

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that border our yard, and there's
a point where, you know, sort

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of all three kind of all three
yards are close to one another. And

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those other two houses also have two
dogs each. So there are six of

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them, oh my, and yeah, it's it's pretty funny get together in

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one yard, not all six of
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or two will will come over by
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to get over the fence by invitation. Yeah, but I mean the one

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one of the neighbors definitely wouldn't hesitate
if if there was an opportunity, she

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would seize it for sure. But
one of them is a standard poodle,

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and so it's pretty big, and
she's black and my dogs are black.

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And when this poodle was a puppy, you know, she was like the

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size of my dogs or even a
little smaller, and she would come over

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sometimes and run around with them,
and it was so fun and then,

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but mostly my one dog would love
playing with her, and my other dog

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would just go stand by the back
door, like, please put me inside

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now, I don't want to deal
with this puppy. Yeah, I can

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see that. It was pretty funny. Well, we'll report back on how

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that cousin's week goes, hopefully with
a happy story of doggy joy. Yes,

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well, so far, so good. It's a nice update. It's

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a good story so far. And
uh, I guess a good story.

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On Dancing with the Stars, would
you say, yeah, shocking non elimination,

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right, did you see that coming? I mean when they got down

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to two and the two were Jason
and Sochi, No no, no,

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no, it wasn't Jason and Soci. It was Arianna and Soshi. Allison

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was safe. Then Jason was safe, and I was very happy. And

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then Charity was safe and I uttered
an expletive because she was the one I

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would have wanted to go instead of
Alison. And so it was Arianna and

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Sochi and they were both crying and
looking terrified. Right, and you're you're

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right. Then Alfonso said, hah
huh, everybody's staying. So what's the

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fan theory on this? Well,
right away I saw a lot of people

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saying, clearly the judge's favorite got
the least votes, and so they just

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decided at the last minute to do
this right, which is what sprung to

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my mind too, like this is
fishy and it's unfair because if somebody who

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should have gone home winds up getting
higher than somebody who legitimately would have stayed

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in the end, that stinks.
However, cooler heads prevailed. Many people,

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including Kristen Birch, who writes about
the show all the time, have

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pointed out that this is a big
show with a lot of moving parts that

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is done live. They cannot at
the last minute decide, hey, let's

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have an extra couple. So it
was always going to be a three hour

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finale. They needed to fill the
three hour finale, So they decided to

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keep everybody, But the way they
did it is squarely. They could have

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right at the beginning of the elimination
said, hey, guess what, it's

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a party. Everybody's everybody's stand right, which five person finale is dumb?

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But okay, the way they did
it and the two they put in the

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bottom, and the apparent anguish of
those two has made a lot of people

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mad right now. Could be there
just acting. Could be they said,

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you guys are safe, but act
like you're really worried. Yeah, but

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it didn't look that way right.
So if I were Val and Pasha,

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I would be having a word with
the producers, what are you doing to

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our girls? Stuff? That it
just left a really bad taste in a

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lot of people's now. But focusing
in on the thing that gives me joy,

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Alison and Sasha, I wish them
to win, except that then people

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would hate their guts. But still
I don't know if Allison understands the degree

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to which she has become the goat
with Harry's departure, and the person that

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everybody will focus their eyer on if
their particular person does not get high enough

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or as high as her already seeing
a lot of posts a bat she is

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just stopping around the stage. She
can't dance, but I thought she danced

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just fine. I thought she dunced
really good for a non dancer. Yeah,

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and I think she's delightful and seems
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She's playing the game very well.
She obviously has a huge voter base,

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and if she won, I would
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a better exemplar of what I mean. Everybody's what this show is about.

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It's lame to say that, but
if it's about somebody who's never danced before

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learning over the course of many weeks
to dance, that's her. Yeah,

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she's other people. I'm pretty sure
everybody else in the finals had some dance

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training beforehand, or some movement training
or something, because they all hit the

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ground really fast. So I don't
know. I'm very happy about that,

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And it'll be a fun final.
They're all fun, they're all fun to

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watch, they're all good. Nobody. Well, I don't hate Charity.

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I just don't like a bachelorette winning. But Okay, she's fine. I

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didn't like her second dance. I
didn't think it looked that good, but

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they gave it ten, so what
do I know? Yeah, but she

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just, you know, she just
doesn't have a ton of personality. Likely

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doesn't you know sometimes people on the
show, you're just like, okay,

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you know, yes, Arton is
also not my favor. Yeah me either.

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I mean, wasn't he the one
who a couple of years ago,

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a season or two ago, he
was you know, he wasn't on and

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he and his fiance were her wife
or whatever who was a former dancer.

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Were like super salty about it.
Yes, and Sharna were both left off

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the same season, and we're just
bratty about it, like, yeah,

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don't do that. I know,
I know, I'm surprised he was back,

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but you know, I don't.
It's not like a big boo hiss,

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let them go, but right,
but that if you have to pick

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one, she would be the one
that I would have liked to have gone

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home in the semi finals. But
whatever, everybody, you'll get a final,

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and you'll get a final. I
just I mean, the dances were

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all The dances were all good.
The dancers were all fun to watch.

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I have no nothing particular to say
about any of them. And the total

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scoring is pretty much the opposite direction
of where I would put it amongst the

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four who were actually doing a lot
of dancing. But Soshi and Val were

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great. They could get two thirties, and I thought Jason was underscored on

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the Viennese Wolves. But what else
is new, right, I don't know.

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They continue to Yeah, I don't
know. He seems to be doing

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very well to me. Maybe he's
like parking in somebody's parking space and they're

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mad at him. But he didn't
he didn't tip the tip the hairstylist,

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and so now he's on the outlist, right, I don't know, But

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listening to all the I've been looking
around on social media and it's so funny

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because you see just general social media, people are down on certain you know,

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down on Allison, and then you
go on Allison's page and look at

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all the comments and people are crying
as she's doing so well and how much

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they love her so right, everybody's
got a faction. She must be getting

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a ton of boats because they certainly
are scoring her to leave. Yeah,

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yeah, I mean so the difference
between her her total score was fifty one,

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and then the next lowest was Jason
and Daniella with fifty seven so stupid

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because why were they Yes, it
is so clearly they are are making their

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choice known, But I don't know. It makes me think that it would

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be interesting to have a show where
you have all celebrities, legit celebrities who

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also have dance training, so that
you could just have a who is dancing

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best competition and they could get honest
scores without shenanigans based on their dancing skill,

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and I would watch that show.
That'd be a good show. Or

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you could have a show that was
all celebrities that had no dance experience whatsoever,

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and then you could judge them against
each other, who is coming along

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best, who is making the most
of it? I would watch that show.

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That would be an interesting show.
Dancing with the Stars is neither of

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those things. So it's like,
if you're gonna have some people who are

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practically professional from week one and some
people who are gonna be learning how to

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count to four for the first three
weeks, right, you can't be mad

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if somebody's getting scored based on their
improvement and somebody's getting scored based on their

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excellence. That's the only fair way
to do it. And shut up.

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People don't have a trouble with that. Watch a different show, Bobby,

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for the show that you want,
But don't be complaining like they're not as

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good. Why are they still here? It's not because they're humendously better than

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they were when they started, and
your person is about as excellent as they

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were when they started, so yay. And also it's really has very little

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to do with their dance your thoughts. It's all about their the voting and

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everything else. Yeah, well it's
both. You can't do it. You

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can't win just on dance performance,
right. You possibly can win just on

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votes, but I think you also
have to have good gameplay, right,

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which is what which is how Bobby
Bones were Bobby Bones exactly. Yeah,

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But like I mean, I had
never heard even before, and I was

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voting for him by the end,
so it wasn't just the people he brought

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with him. Well, and I
was mostly despite other people. But still,

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as we talked about before, on
this season, I mean, it

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seems like there's not even any point
to having the judges and the scoring because

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it's not making a difference, like
it's Yeah, and also, to be

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fair, the judges aren't making a
strong argument for their usefulness yeah, but

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yeah, I mean you see people
who are at the top of the leaderboard

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get sent home people are at the
bottom of the leaderboard. Keep saying so

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like, why do we have a
leaderboard? Yeah, there's ways they could

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alter that and they're not. So
they could make I mean they had a

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judge safe for a while, yeah, and then they stopped doing that.

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They could make the votes less important. They could do the votes only for

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certain parts, you know, have
it just be judges for the first six

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weeks and then have voters. But
that they're in a bad way because they

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need the votes to scare up the
people viewing, Yeah, and to scare

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up the scare up excitement for the
show. So they're kind of stuck,

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right, But I don't know,
it's fun to watch. Yeah, Yeah,

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I would not mind if they just
got rid of them. If the

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judges were actually doing making sense with
their scoring, then I would be all

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for it. But they're not,
and they're not even really trying anymore.

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Yeah, I mean, if they
were really saying, like, what we

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need to see in a ja JA
is xyz. And you know they did

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try that last year, right where
they had they sort of demo dances,

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but you know, when when you
can't see the connection to what they're saying

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and what you are watching then and
when you can't see connection between what they're

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saying and what the score is,
right, it just seems silly. So

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transparency and scoring would be super helpful
because otherwise people just assume the fix is

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in. Yeah you know, so, yeah, it's it's a show not

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without its flaws, and there are
flaws that can be fixed and flaws that

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are just a part of the setup. Right, but still, but we

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keep having back kissing dancing. It's
fine, and I you know, people

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will scream if Alison and Sasha win, But wouldn't it be cool if Sasha

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won from me? Every year?
Where are you going? Oh Sasha,

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not your year? Man? In
fact, I said that earlier this season,

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saying, you know, I'd love
for him to win. Allison's not

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gonna do for it for him,
but maybe maybe the Buffy verse is going

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to put him over, so we'll
see, Yes, we'll see. Not

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winning so very much this week are
the people on the Gilded Age. There's

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a lot of a lot of setbacks
and uh, unfortunate occurrences in this episode.

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I felt like it seemed really much
more plot packed than usual, and

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also much less Bertha than usual.
Yes, very little Bertha. I think

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it was just that one scene where
Missus Winterton appeared to triumph over her by

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getting the central box. I would
have, just if I were Bertha,

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let it go as she appeared to. But of course, George, as

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we suspected, had put a bunch
of money into the net to keep it

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going, and he was able to
call in that chip to a mortified looking

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uh whatever. The guy's name is, Dickie. Yeah, well we're just

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gonna call him Dickie, who just
looked like excellent work in turning Gray sir

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right before our eyes and also being
stuck on the moving train, moving train,

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but the train has left the station. Well, you'll just have to

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get up at the next step.
I guess George was pretty masterful with that,

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uh negotiation. Yes, unfortunate for
Dickie that he was talking to George

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before he grew a conscience, so
maybe on the way back it wouldn't have

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gone quite that way. But uh
so, yes, George starts, you

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know, goes to the union guy's
house and sees how the people live and

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why aren't these kids in school?
And is there a school and his uh,

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who is that guy? Is that
his assistant or his secretary? Mister

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secretary could not could not be less
concerned by care and uh, you know

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he's there when the troops are going
to shoot all the union guys so they

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can get the scabs in all the
strikers, and he just at the last

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minute tells them not to So what
is he going to do there but an

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aim and he tells them to stand
down instead of fy Yes. Partly another

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reason is that he has met mister
Henderson, the union man, who has

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met his son who is now working
for the mill, and who is there

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at the protest. So George,
like you said, grows a conscience and

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is yeah able to see this through. I don't know is Bertha going to

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approve of him having a conscience that
could be inconvenient for her? Right?

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I think there's trouble ahead there,
but let's not We have so many other

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non winners this episode. Well,
it was fifty to fifty with the rector

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whether he was going to be a
bad guy or whether he's gonna die.

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So his dice fell on the die
side, and as soon as they said

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his back Hurt's like, oh,
well, he's doomed. I don't know

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what it's going to be, but
he's doomed. And indeed it was cancer.

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Seriously, they couldn't have given her
like at least one episode of happiness.

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It was all offscreen when she went
to Niagara Phone, Niagara Falls.

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I had a honeymoon and she had
a happy honeymoon in between episodes. And

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now everything's gone. Although speaking of
like growing a conscience or becoming a good

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person, sort of overnight you go
Agnes, she's giving money to Jack for

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his clock. She immediately goes to
Ada when she finds out wants them to

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come to her house. She's like, who is this? And she was

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even telling missus astor maybe you want
to calm down about the opera thing?

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Maybe who is this woman? What
happened to her? Didn't didn't the ghosts

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of Christmas pass President Future come to
visitor at night? Now we just have

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to wait for Armstrong the housekeeper to
turn it around. Oh yeah, she's

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still oh my gosh. Yeah,
but all the all the staff pitching in

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to uh help Jack get his patent
on his clock, which he then was

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not able to get. But I
have this feeling he's going to keep trying.

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Yeah, I think he's going to
keep going. One day, you'll

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be a famous clockmaker. That's right. We'll say we knew him when that's

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right. So his winning is in
the future. Was not this this time,

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not so much, but but perhaps
the saddest, at least for this

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week. Oh Marion, oh sweet
Marian, Oh no, I mean you

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walk into that sweeteart. Oh is
it ever, ever, ever a good

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idea to propose to someone in public
in front of a group of people,

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Do not do that? No.
In Dashel's case, it was a good

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idea because that's the only reason,
the way he was going to get her

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to say yes, yes, I
know. But as soon as he's oh

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no, no, no, don't
do it, Oh my gosh, and

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what can she do? She gives
that that romantic answer every man wants to

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hear. Well, if you want
me to, I guess, okay,

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and ada, at least amongst the
crowd is looking like, yeah, oh

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no, she knows. That's not
good. Oh that was so very painful.

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Yes, and they're still encouraging us. I think to see Marian and

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Larry as the end game for sure. Yes, when he's talking to her

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later and she's completely forgotten that she's
engaged. I hope he takes encourage.

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Oh that yeah, oh yeah,
thats right. We'll deal with that later.

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If it wasn't for the little girl, she could just go back and

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say, are you kidding me?
Man? Why would you put me on

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the spot like that? I absolutely
will not marry you, but show that

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little girl's gonna twist the knife.
I feel like she can put it off

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by I'm going to go live at
the rectory and help, yes, like,

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hang on for as long as you
can her a little time. I'm

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saying, Hail Mary's all day to
keep you alive. Right, if they're

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probably not Catholic, what is it? Probably Anglican or something? Yeah,

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that's whatever. Whatever they said,
brain all day? Oh man? That

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was that was cringe, just a
fringe. How will will Agnes's unexpected heart

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of gold lasts long enough for Marian
to ditch this dude to marry the bridge

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guy across the street? Right?
Oh yeah, kill scandal? And then

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I am concerned about Missus Russell's new
lady's maid. I fear that she is

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a plant from Missus Winterton and that
the young maid who has been displaced will

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catch on, but nobody will believe
her because they'll think she's just bitter about

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it. This is my uncomfortable theory
that I please, please please be wrong.

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I very much want it to be
wrong. But that's just the kind

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of thing Missus Winterton would do.
It is although she has shown that she

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can't do these things, well I
can't do these things. Well, that's

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true, but she did, which
is why she did, you know,

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score a little triumph with the box
the end did, yes, but I

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would have I would have given that
that went away. But now that that

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George has renegotiated with the guy,
and now Missus Winterton's gonna lose her box,

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She's gonna be ticked again, if
indeed she does. And uh,

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but I mean, where's she gonna
go? There's she can't go to any

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other opera. This is her opera. This is you know, you gotta

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you gotta dance with the opera.
You got missus ass shut you down.

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I wonder if Missus Astor is regretting
that right now. Well, well we

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have Peggy, oh, yes,
being a bit let's say, entangled with

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her boss. Yes, indeed,
and Mary you know confiding and to Marian

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some right, what's been going on? Yes? Yes, that is unfortunate,

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that situation which I can't figure out
how they back off from that?

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Right? He certainly doesn't want to
seem to want to be back very delicately

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trying to say, like, maybe
we shouldn't write all of our stories together,

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maybe we should never be alone together
again. Can we get a couple

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of more staff people in here?
Plaze? Oh dear, she's onto another

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story? Yeah? And about the
schools, yes, in New York this

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time? Yes? And I think
the only other plot line was Oscar doing

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that thing that I don't understand.
What's going on? Is he being scammed

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by this guy? Is his uh
uh intended in on the scam or not?

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Right? Yeah? I don't get
it either. How much can how

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much money does he have? I
mean, can he impoverish his mother with

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this stuff? I would I would
hope Agnes is a sharp cookie. She

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wouldn't give him access to more money
than she can afford to lose, would

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she? I don't think would she
trust him like with her funds? I

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mean, I think she knows that
he can be I hope you know he

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can? Yeah? So not be
trusted in some things. But yeah,

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one I would all have the same
questions that you do. You know,

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is he scamming her? Is he
genuinely trying to help her? Is he

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Are they working on this together which
that part is? Or is she scamming

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him? Right? Yeah, I
mean I guess the most charitable expectation is

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that they're doing it together to get
as much fun as I would hope so,

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but I mean I don't generally care
for Oscar as a character, but

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something rather than stupid. Yes,
well, I don't know. Yeah,

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I wish we had a little more
clarification about what exactly was going on there,

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but maybe that's the point. Spence. Oh well, how many more

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episodes of this do we have?
There's two more? That's it? Two

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more? Yes, okay, enough
time for the Ada's husband to die and

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Marian to either be rushed into marriage
or somehow get out of it killed him.

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Yes, yeah, but oh that
was so unpleasant. And I do

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have to give Louis a Jacobson credit
for yes playing it like what happened.

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Yes, okay, I don't like
this. I don't like this at all,

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but she hasn't necessarily discouraged him but
she hasn't particularly encouraged him either,

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and he hasn't. It's been pretty
clear what he had in mind, but

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he hasn't broached it to her in
any personal way. But this again that

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he did it publicly because then she
couldn't say no, right, so,

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which means he's a bad dude or
not good husband material at the very least.

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Well, and they also gave him
a line where he said like,

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oh, these poor people like who
cares basically right or you're he said you're

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not a real teacher. That's what
he said. So that's right to really

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like twist the nail so that we
all know. Okay, so we do

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think he's a bad guy though,
yes, we know he's a bad guy

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now because he said that she's not
real teacher. Yes, so clearly she

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will not be marrying him. Something
will happen to felicitate her escape, right,

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and not a moment too soon.
So next week we will watch Gilded

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Age season two, episode seven,
Wonders never Cease. Well, I can

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think of some wonders I would like
to see if they're never ceasing, Like

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dash, she'll saying, oh,
never mind, I was just kidding and

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uh and miraculous recovery. Like like
Ada said, you'll you'll share it from

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the pulpit. That's right. Everybody
prays for him and suddenly his cancer is

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gone. That would be a wonder. Yeah, let's let's hold high hopes

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for that, because are going to
have something to do with the opera,

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that's true. Hmmm, I wonder
what wonders will never cease? And then

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Dancing with the Stars Season thirty two
finale with you a wonder if Ellison It'sasha

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Witt. But you know I wouldn't
be mad about any of the finalists really,

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So see what happens actually tonight as
you're listening to this, all right,

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we will see what happens. And
now once again it is time for

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Catherine's Library Finder of the Week.
What you got, Yes, I'm back.

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I'm back with another crafty book,
which is funny because I am the

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least crafty person that you've ever met. But this came through and it's called

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folded The book itself is called folded
book art, which if you google that

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then you get all kinds of tutorials
on how to make folded book art.

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But this was a book that that
is the specific title and so when you

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see, like you know, books
that have the pages artfully folded to make

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like a little picture or a word
or something, it looks so cool.

408
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.800
This is just like the artistic playment
of placement of dog years and no,

409
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:21.960
which we've discussed before. Don't do
that please, Yeah, this is this

410
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:27.920
is intentional you know, folding and
manipulating of the pages to make very cool

411
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:35.880
looking creations. And as is,
the is typical with these kind of books.

412
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:37.639
You know, when you see one, you'll probably see another one.

413
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:45.880
So there are there are multiple books
telling you how to do this or just

414
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:51.760
sort of highlighting cool projects. And
you know, you could, like like

415
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.760
you would read a cookbook just without
actually making anything from it. You could

416
00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.639
page through this kind of book and
admire the pretty things that you are never

417
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:06.599
ever going to because I'm not on
these books that you're folding. Are they

418
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:08.280
books that are especially made for that, or they're just saying go to your

419
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:12.559
library, I mean, go to
uh, you know, your bookshelves at

420
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.679
home and pick out a book you
haven't read and fold it up. I

421
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.519
think it's that or I think people
might you know, get them from thrift

422
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:23.679
shops or for the purpose garage sales
or that kind of thing. It makes

423
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:30.679
me feel like I'm folding a book
into that. That doesn't seem right.

424
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:34.360
I've done it with magazines. I've
done the make a Christmas tree by folding

425
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:39.039
a magazine in a certain way and
then taping it together. But those were

426
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:45.000
popular in my youth, right back
when there were magazines. Remember magazines,

427
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:51.400
Yeah, I remember, I used
to work. I used to be employed

428
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.519
in the magazine. I guess to
make this Christmas trees, now you have

429
00:35:53.559 --> 00:36:01.320
to fold up a book, yep, or catalog some catalogs this season.

430
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.639
Surprisingly, yes, I have been
a sparse, sad little tree from the

431
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:14.239
like brochure at the resort of their
many certain many activities. Right, So

432
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.280
it's it's a it's a spare little
it's a Charlie Brown Christmas tree, but

433
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:23.800
it's a Christmas tree. Yeah.
Well we'll get into that, actually nervous.

434
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:31.360
We'll get into that with our with
our arc coming up. But anyway,

435
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.440
we will have a link to this
particular book. But there are there

436
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.480
are many out there, and it's
just fun to kind of take a peek

437
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:44.079
at I think people can do fun
to look at pictures of them. I

438
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.480
think I would feel very bad to
actually do it, even though I have

439
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:50.360
a great many books that are never
going to be read again and never going

440
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.840
to be opened, and probably becoming
a thing of beauty would be a good

441
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.639
end, better end for them than
sitting dust covered and warping on my shelf.

442
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.840
Right, but still, books are
sacred, you don't. I mean,

443
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.400
you could go to a little free
library and I guess, but it's

444
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:10.039
seems disrespectful. Yeah, I know, but yeah, but no, I

445
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.239
think it's cool though, and I
can see how it would be really nice

446
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:22.559
and it could make a book even
more useful and valuable. But you will

447
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:30.119
not be doing it. Oh well, many of my books are getting folded

448
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:37.119
just by the way they're sitting.
But anyway, let's let's just leave this

449
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.599
traumatic topic behind and go on a
spin through the archives to see what we

450
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:45.400
were talking about one year ago,
four years ago, and eight years ago

451
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.400
this week. Can't call it.
How long have we been doing this?

452
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.880
This is ridiculous, way too long. We should be much more famous by

453
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:59.360
now, like we've possibly been getting
less famous as we go along with right

454
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:07.320
started I note, Oh, well, so one year ago this week we

455
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:12.400
were shouting out our kids' skills things
our kids had learned to do, or

456
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.880
things our kids were just strong in, like my son knowing when we had

457
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:21.719
something for dinner, what week we
had it, and we look back to

458
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.199
where my husband writes stuff down and
it's correct. Skills like that. As

459
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:30.599
you have your kids acquired any new
skills in the past year, Well,

460
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:37.239
my son just about a year ago
at this time went to the Technical Theater

461
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:45.119
Olympics that they have. So every
year the state has a theater festival.

462
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:52.079
It's like forensics in theater, I
think. And so their school does a

463
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:57.360
one act play and there's a it's
competitive, you know, they performed a

464
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.159
few times before a panel of judges
and based on that they can qualify to

465
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:07.639
go to this state festival and then
they perform it again there and can receive

466
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.920
awards. And then as part of
that this whole event, they had this

467
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:17.639
Tech Olympics and they do they have
to do things like you know, s

468
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:25.679
on a button or set up you
know, set up props or do something

469
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:35.880
with sound and anyway they had hang
up a light and he won it wow

470
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:40.599
for the whole state. And what
is even fun for himself? If you

471
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.440
like his shirt one falls off his
shirt or just in he just works on

472
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.280
the lights. Okay, the lights. He did the best in them,

473
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.960
the lights, so that was very
exciting. He wasn't even you know,

474
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:02.840
lights are not his specialty yet all
but but he won. And so he

475
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:09.880
actually won a big you know,
theatrical stage light for his high school by

476
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:15.880
doing that. So so that's a
pretty cool skill, yes, And that's

477
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:22.920
that's new newish yeah for him.
So that's see what he wants to get

478
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.199
into the technical side of theater,
right or directing he wants to do.

479
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:32.159
He wants to do directing or playwriting, so not not specifically, still working

480
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.440
with lights, but it's still a
cool behind the scenes as opposed to right,

481
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:43.480
right, and probably useful to know
how all that stuff works if you're

482
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.159
going to be directing, for sure. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

483
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:51.239
So he did he did that,
and then I don't know. My daughter,

484
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:57.800
I think her a newer skill that
she has is making boba te because

485
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:01.760
she that's where she works is at
a tea place, so she knows how

486
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:07.079
to make all those all those drinks. And she's also of course helping with

487
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:14.840
the social media for her place of
business. So nice making making tiktoks about

488
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:22.079
bubble tea. Neither of these are
things that I could do. Yeah,

489
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:29.039
nor would I have to be proud. Yeah? Absolutely, I don't know

490
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.039
what we've we've got anything new.
My my daughter's learned how to make grilled

491
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.920
cheese sandwiches are a little electric grit
special. She makes herself grilled cheese.

492
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:44.679
Make it for you, she does
occasionally, Yes, and I will gladly

493
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:49.239
eat a grilled cheese sandwich in any
form. I like mine super crispy.

494
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:54.199
Hers are a little soft but still
delicious, bread butter and malta cheese in

495
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:58.960
any combination. Yeah, I'm good
to go. Yeah, I'm not real

496
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.079
picky. Right. Well, She
also she makes herself eggs, sometimes microwave

497
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:07.599
eggs, which I taught her to
do, but she she, you know,

498
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.760
fix the stuff herself. Pretty Soon
she'll have her kitchen downstairs and she'll

499
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:15.159
be able to just make what she
wants to make. If we decide to

500
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:20.880
plug in the oven. I still
have not decided that yet. It's an

501
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.599
elderly gas oven and stove that's disconnected
because I was smelling gas, and so

502
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.320
it's now like, shall we hook
it up, back it up again?

503
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.639
Just leave it bait. She can
come upstairs and use the oven. It'll

504
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:36.400
be fine, my son. I
don't know. He's been working at home

505
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:37.880
depot for quite a while and seems
to be doing pretty well, so I

506
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.519
guess he's picked up the skills necessary
to help people load things into cars and

507
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:50.719
tie Christmas trees onto roofs and such
like. Right. Oh, he's definitely

508
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:58.119
learned how to use a credit card
to buy things from event. That is

509
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.440
an awesome skill. He has acquired
to the degree that the front of his

510
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:06.960
credit card is peeling off, so
pretty soon he won't be able to do

511
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:13.000
that anymore because he can't can't slide
it in. Try to see how we

512
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.159
get a new one. It's just
like wear and tear, right, excessive

513
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:22.159
wear and tear from being slipped into
vending machines. But oh, my goodness,

514
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:27.079
has he been doing that a lot? So tire credit card is like

515
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:31.559
the same charge over and over and
over over again. Right, But you

516
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:37.360
know, good for him, Yeah
he can. He can buy himself patented

517
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:45.360
chips, right y goodness knows what
else? So let's see, So what

518
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:51.360
about our own skills, because we
also talked about that that was eight years

519
00:43:51.360 --> 00:44:00.599
ago. Skills. Golly, what
have I gained a skillion. Do you

520
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:06.360
have something that you picked up back
way back eight years ago? My skill

521
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:16.360
was making a making a competition ready
hair hairstyle. I don't have to do

522
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:24.239
that anymore. Yeah. I think
it's you know, it's studiously ignoring the

523
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:30.360
online grades. I'm good at that. You're a stronger mom than I am.

524
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.960
I was. Are they up yet? Are they up yet? Are

525
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:38.360
they up yet? Yeah? Recently
my sister asked me, like, well,

526
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.960
how is he doing in school?
I'm like, I don't know.

527
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:49.000
I cannot look for my own mental
mental health. I cannot. I cannot

528
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.599
look, and there's nothing you can
do about it anymore. So there's nothing

529
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:57.519
I can do. Yeah. And
and with the high school ones, you

530
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:02.360
know I was so anxious about because
you know, he was really at risk,

531
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:09.079
but it didn't mean anything until the
very very end. Yeah, So

532
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:16.679
there was no point in looking at
it because it could completely change, yeah,

533
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:22.280
better or worse. Yeah. So
like, if you looked at it

534
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.639
and it was good, so what, you can't relax because it could it

535
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.360
could all fall apart, right,
And if you looked at it and it

536
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.440
was bad, like, well that's
bad, But am I les stay bad?

537
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.519
Who knows. Oh Man, Welcome
to parenthood people. Yep, this

538
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:44.880
is the way it is, always, always I am. I am trying

539
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.719
to acquire the skill of not caring
and just letting my kids have their lives

540
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:53.039
and not feel like I'm responsible for
everything. That it's okay for them to

541
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:58.719
make mistakes and it's their life and
what they want to do is what they

542
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:04.800
should do. I'm I don't.
It's less that I'm not in charge anymore

543
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.840
than I don't need to be in
charge anymore. Right after years and years

544
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:13.320
of having to make decisions for them
and having to figure things out and maybe

545
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.360
this worked, maybe this didn't,
I can turn things over to them to

546
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:20.599
a large degree, not entirely,
not as much as maybe for some kids

547
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:25.639
their age, but still pretty much. I need to just care less,

548
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:34.239
no problem. I have not quite
developed that skill, as my daughter will

549
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:38.039
tell you, but I'm working on
it. I'm attempting to acquire it,

550
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:43.360
to care about the things that are
important, which is just that they're neat

551
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:49.480
kids, and they're you know,
they're working, and they can work things

552
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.840
out themselves, right, And if
my son tells me he wants to do

553
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.360
something, we can do it.
If he doesn't. We cannot do it.

554
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.800
And I can let my daughter go
move downstairs where we don't see what

555
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.800
she's doing every single minute, and
that will be a good thing. Right.

556
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:08.920
So it's hard when they're still living
in your house. It's hard,

557
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:16.159
and when they have some issues that
cause you to question their decision making skills.

558
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.360
But you know what, pretty sure
everybody who has a kid in their

559
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:25.159
thirties questions their decision making skills.
So it's really you know, look at

560
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:34.960
them, they're typical, say stand
down, mom. My mom couldn't stand

561
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.199
down. And I'm having a hard
time with it. But that's the skill

562
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:42.679
I am pursuing. That would be
a super parenting skill to have. Yeah,

563
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:46.400
live your life, honey, I'll
be over here, make a podcast.

564
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.199
It's a tough one. It's very
tough. But I'm proud of you,

565
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:57.519
Terry, thank you. Well,
leave me wait till I just get

566
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.400
my daughter a lecture yesterday. So
it's not going so weak, but maybe

567
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:07.639
it's maybe it can all happen at
once. Yes, Yeah, these are

568
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.559
these are long held habits. And
just the fact that I was I had

569
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:15.320
to be so involved when they were
in school, then I mean, this

570
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:21.119
is me, This is me less
just giving her lectures. Yeah, I'm

571
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:23.440
not going to our workplace and talking
to our boss, which I have a

572
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:30.000
strong urge to do, such a
strong urge to do. But I'm being

573
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:35.280
good. I'm working on it.
Yeah, I'm betting there, Yes,

574
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.920
and the others. The other thing
that we were going to look back on

575
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:46.679
was an episode called The good Enough
Christmas back in twenty nineteen. And you

576
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:53.039
know you you already mentioned fashioning a
tree out of a brochure. That's what

577
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:57.760
we do. Yes, we go
to this resort for Christmas, a timeshare,

578
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:04.760
and I make the little tree from
whatever multi page paper product I can

579
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.840
find, and we buy each other
presence cheap presence from the gift store and

580
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:14.079
put them under the tree. And
that is our extent of our Christmas decorating.

581
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.760
It's great, it's fun, and
yeah, I mean it's fine the

582
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.280
house at all because we're not going
to be here for much of the time.

583
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:27.039
So just you know, we've we've
nobody cared about it but me,

584
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:32.039
and so all I had to do
was stop caring about it and then good

585
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:37.079
enough. You're all there. Yeah, well but you and you've made you've

586
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.840
made a new tradition and it's working
for you. Yes, so it is.

587
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:45.320
That's great. So yeah, so
are you now that what do you

588
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.800
what are you guys going to do
for Christmas? Is everybody coming home?

589
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:54.800
Or are you going to look for
another charming Airbnb? No, well,

590
00:49:55.519 --> 00:50:00.320
the kids are coming home. My
daughter's coming home specific because she has jury

591
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:07.559
duty. Oh well, shes right? She? I mean, she would

592
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:14.800
have come home anyway, but she
kept going required to, don't. Yeah,

593
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.199
she kept getting called and she put
it off a couple of times,

594
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.480
and then they were like, you
have to do this, you know.

595
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.840
And also the odds are that she
will actually have to do it are small,

596
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.000
right, but she still has to
be like on call. Yes,

597
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.719
so she'll be coming home, you
know, the week prior, because that's

598
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.039
the week that she has jury duty. And you know, we can all

599
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:43.960
we can all be pretty sure that
no one's gonna have a jury trial that

600
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.199
kicks off on December twentieth. But
whatever, she still has to come home,

601
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:52.920
right or she still had to,
you know, make her plans according

602
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.119
to Doesn't that sound like a Hallmark
movie? Yes, I had to come

603
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:59.800
home for jury duty. And then
in the jury pool, she saw that

604
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:07.159
she knew in high school, right, and so they different opinions on the

605
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:12.199
case, and they fought about it
the whole time. But then exactly,

606
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:16.119
love, I see it. I
see it for sure. So that's happening.

607
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:22.800
And then right after Christmas, she's
going back to Michigan because her boyfriend's

608
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:30.480
sister is getting married, so she's
going to that, and then the rest

609
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:36.079
of us are going to go visit
my family, my parents, siblings.

610
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:43.960
So where California. WHOA, that's
not just like go over the river and

611
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.760
through the woods. That's no,
we're doing it so plame flight. As

612
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:53.159
we discussed last week. Yes,
so that's exciting, say hello to my

613
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:57.639
home state for me, although it's
not that part of that part is not

614
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.360
my home state, but still right, Yeah, so that's exciting. I

615
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:06.599
mean, it won't it'll just be
three out of four of us because my

616
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.920
daughter won't be coming on that trip, but you know, we'll get time

617
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:15.719
with her before and but yeah,
we t I'm with your son. I

618
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:22.480
sure I'll enjoy that. Well,
but yeah, we we were sort of

619
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.679
like last weekend, you know,
the weekend after Thanksgiving when my son was

620
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:29.920
we were all home. My son
was home, my daughter was not here,

621
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:31.400
but my son wasn't. My husband
was kind of like, dude,

622
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:35.880
should we get a tree? Like, is now the time we get a

623
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:37.159
tree? And I'm like, well, it's kind of early to get a

624
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:42.519
tree, like cause we get a
live tree. Oh, it's a little

625
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:50.039
early in my opinion to get it
now. But then the two of them

626
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:54.920
won't be home until basically a week
before, so I guess we kind of

627
00:52:54.920 --> 00:53:01.679
need to get it before they get
here. But it's depressing to me to

628
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:07.239
decorate a Christmas street by myself.
That's true. Even if you have like

629
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:12.039
proper musical accompaniment you can play.
I mean that that's maybe it's you and

630
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:16.000
vibe on that. I don't but
I will. Yeah, the music helps

631
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:22.480
for sure. Yes. So do
you decorate the front of your house a

632
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:28.559
little bit? Do your neighbors?
Yes? So on my street, it's

633
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.679
definitely like lights because you have the
big street by the park that everybody goes

634
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:37.079
down, right, So yeah,
we do do some lights, and we

635
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:42.039
have most of that up already,
which is very early for us. I

636
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.360
mean typically we would always be gone
for Thanksgiving and we'd come home and the

637
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.719
whole block would be done and we'd
be like, oh God, we're so

638
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:52.920
behind, so we have most of
it. We have. There's like this

639
00:53:53.119 --> 00:54:01.760
organization kind of a youth group Scouting
similar to Scouting organization that sells wreaths,

640
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:09.360
and we always buy from them,
and those got delivered before before Thanksgiving.

641
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:15.199
Wow, And so we always get
these they call them porch pots, you

642
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:20.920
know, like a little potted arrangement
for the porch. Because one year a

643
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:22.880
kid came to our door selling these
wreaths and we were like, oh,

644
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.400
yeah, we'll take it. We
always get like a big giant wreath and

645
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:29.920
hang it on the screen porch and
put lights in it and stuff. And

646
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.159
we said and she said, you
know what would look really good is a

647
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:38.000
couple of porch pots. And we
were like so impressed by her sellowship that

648
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:44.000
we just bought the porch pots.
Now by the porch. Ah, So

649
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:49.400
yeah, we have two porch pots
and then we have no no inflatables.

650
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:54.119
They're huge here, huge physically and
also huge popularly. Yeah. I mean

651
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:58.559
it's like a movie on the front
of your house. Yes, yes,

652
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:04.639
yes, I saw one of those. There's one pretty close to me,

653
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:08.760
and it is the it's a countdown
to Christmas. It's like how many more

654
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:15.639
days until Christmas? And it's been
up there since there were like fifty days.

655
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:20.840
I was like, slow down,
like you're stressing me out. Some

656
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:24.599
people are very into it. Yes, we have a few streets here by

657
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:29.400
us where there's like house after house
after house has the inflatables and the lights

658
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:31.480
and the movie and all this stuff
right after the other. And they're not

659
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:37.719
like your street, you know,
in plain View. There's sort of side

660
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.480
streets, and I'm thinking they're just
doing this for each other. These people

661
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:44.000
just dig it and they want to
see who can have the coolest display.

662
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.119
Yeah, it's it's sort of fun
walking taking our walks now because it's dark

663
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:52.159
by the time we get out,
and all these lights and things and stuff,

664
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.760
and it makes us feel, you
know, a little overwhelmed by it

665
00:55:55.840 --> 00:56:00.159
all and also extremely glad that we
don't do that nonsense. Right. Still,

666
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:05.960
Wow, some people are super into
this. Yes, you know,

667
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:12.000
good for them, whatever gives you
joy. I have a friend who came

668
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:19.239
into a whole ton of inflatables,
like for every holiday. It was like

669
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:24.000
a dentist's office that was going out
of business or some some business that had

670
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:29.039
all these and was like basically giving
them away. And somehow she ended up

671
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:37.360
with them. So she y has
this ridiculous collection of inflatable things. Oh

672
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:44.639
my responsibility, she put them all
out. Oh, speaking of inflatables,

673
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:49.000
I want to mention last week we
talked about Walker Hayes getting his kids Christmas

674
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.320
inflatables when he made it big with
Fancy Like. I just want to mention

675
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:58.360
that he has made a Christmas version
of Fancy Like called Fancy Like Christmas,

676
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:04.199
a video for it, featuring all
his adorable kids and his wife and a

677
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.559
bunch of inflatables and a whole lot
of other silliness, right and in general

678
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:12.280
like sort of object to really,
man, you're gonna make a Christmas version

679
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:16.840
of your big hit, Okay,
but the video is very fun and his

680
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:21.960
family is very cute, so I
will allow it, okay. I mean

681
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.119
you can search for it on YouTube, get a little Christmas spirit without actually

682
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:28.360
having to do anything yourself, right, and we'll go link it up.

683
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.519
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684
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685
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686
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687
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690
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691
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