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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
by fan Tracks, your source of information

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and analysis to help you win your
fantasy hockey league. Fuck off, I

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just stept on. Stay lost.
Here's your hosts, Jesse Soup here and

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Victor nun Yo Fantasy Hockey Live here
once again to talk about the fantasy hockey.

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It's the new season. It's twenty
twenty three, twenty four, as

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far as we're concerned. Jesse Severe
from Fan Tracks and joining me. The

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man who will prophesy everything that happens
in the coming season, it is Victor

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nun Yo. Victor, how you
doing. I'm doing awesome, Jesse,

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I prophesize. I guess that's a
that's that's a good, good way of

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doing it. Yeah, definitely.
Hopefully people have enjoying these, uh these

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team previews. We we enjoy them. There's a lot of the moving parts.

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Try to make them as as optimal
as possible. I know we're starting

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early, but that's the way it's
got to be, Jesse. You dang

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right. And just like a lot
of NHL teams do during the season,

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the East Coast teams go and make
the quote California trip where they play all

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three of the California teams at once. We're going to come close to that.

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We're our next couple of episodes are
both trips to Cali. Unfortunately,

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those dan Kings, we're good enough
that they are going to be a little

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bit later in the process this year. But San Jose is up today and

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we're gonna talk about the team that
is Victor's closest and the one that he

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has followed for a very long time, the San Jose Sharks. Where do

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you think, Victor, is this
episode going to depress you? Or are

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you going to be indifferent? Are
you stoic? Are you optimistic? Describe

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your emotions at this moment. Well, every team has opportunities that you can

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exploit as a fantasy GM and that's
how I look at it. So there's

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always there's always diamonds to be mined, and that's really what it's all about.

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I think in terms of the way
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it's it's just really frustrating, I
would say, because they should have

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traded Meyer and Hurdle and you know
whoever else years ago. You know when

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they had when they had that year
of Meyer where he was had a good

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salary and he had one or two
more years. That's when I was saying,

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you got to you gotta trade this
guy because you're gonna get a lot

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for him. And they ended up
getting, you know, a modest return

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because he's a UFA. So just
a little bit of frustration and how how

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the team has been run. But
I think the career is doing things differently,

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so we will see, we will
see. I was selfishly, of

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course wanting but Gard to fall in
San Jose because well, it is a

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team I rooted for for a long
time. But also I could watch him

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live. I'm really close to San
Jose, so I could drive thirty minutes

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and watch, and so sure I
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That's always a popular ticket because they're
a popular team. Original six teams

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are. But it didn't happen,
and that's fine. We'll see how it

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goes with whoever they pick. Yeah, as you can tell, we are

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always a little time shifted in these
team previews because we have to stack them

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up, but we have to get
them when we can get the guests.

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But we're finally living in the present
that you all are where Connorbadard, it's

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going to be a Chicago Blackhawk,
So take that for what it's worth.

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But Victor, you know, we're
all fantasy hockey nihilists because when we get

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far enough into this whole thing,
we have to kind of move aside from

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our loyalties to our favorite teams to
looking at the leagues as a whole.

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So I would ask you, Victor, people need to study the stuff,

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and you have lots of stuff in
what we call a Patreon, So why

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don't you tell people as we get
started today what they can find if they

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choose to go way deep into that. Yeah, definitely, we got a

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lot of great stuff over there that
that coincide with the team previews. There's

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there's going to be some bonus content
with some of the guests. We might

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have some extra audio, and with
certainly each team, I'm going through and

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kind of describing a top ten lists, going through like the top ten prospects.

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That was something that patrons wanted and
I'm happy to do that. So

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we did one for Chicago right before
they won Baguard. That was really good

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timing, but we'll continue to do
those. We also have, of course,

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the rank sheets where you can go
through and look at my top rank

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prospects, and they have blocks,
hit shot tiers and all kinds of other

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goodness in there. Forward, goalie, defensemen. And there's a little bit

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more too. There's we have our
tiers and ranks. We also, by

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request, have been tracking who has
good contracts for those salary cap leagues and

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who we think is top ranked players. Later on in the summer, we're

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hopefully going to come out with our
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There's a lot of great stuff,
including patron casts and other bonus content like

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roster doctors where we can go through
your team and give you some personalized advice.

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So a lot of great stuff.
Check it out over at patreon dot

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Sure enough, if you want to dive

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deep, you can go deep deep
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If you're wanted to get a little
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enjoy chattering with people and it's a
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a good group of people and not
all kinds of craziness, but that is

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gonna get us off to a start. Victor, I'm I'm warmed up,

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I've got a little bit of a
sweat on, I'm stretched, and I'm

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ready to talk to San Jose Sharks
with our guests right after this, join

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it us once again for at least
the second year in a row, in

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hopefully many more. Chanpang of San
Jose Hockey now to talk about the San

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Jose Sharks. Shang, how are
you doing today? Good? How are

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you guys dying? Excellent? Excellent? Ready to talk a little West Coast

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hockey. Uh yeah, it's it's
interesting team to be covering, though we

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got to get into him a little
bit. It's rough times in San Jose.

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Many they definitely sold this year.
They got a few things of value

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in return for Brent Burns, Aiden
Hill in the preseason, Timo Meyer,

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Jacob Nieto, Vladine Mestekoff, Nick
Benino, mikey Esimont, while they got

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Flademestecof for him on and then they
flipped him again toward the trade deadline,

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and they picked up some kind of
depth picks in the in the draft.

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Truth is, there weren't a lot
of assets that you know, to move

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from the team who didn't already have
a really big contract like good old ek

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sixty five will get to him.
The performance wasn't quite bad enough to get

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the top pick, but it also
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they got rid of Martin Jones,
and their team save percentage actually dropped

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from nine hundred to a league worst
eight eighty one. Uh shang, I

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hate to come in hot like this. I'm not trying to depress anybody or

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throw off the start. Doing a
good enough job of that, Okay,

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all right, I didn't take it
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what do you does Saint Jose you
think after this year, obviously we're we're

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looking to the future. It's a
it's it's a tank one, we're another.

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Do you think they did everything they
could to turbo charge this rebuild and

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how do you think this season went
from that perspective? Well, from the

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reboil perspective, I think it went
pretty well. Actually, um, especially

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after the or around the trade their
line after they traded Tiamo Meyer. Uh,

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Mike, we really tried his best
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say, a players and coaches don't
tank, but organizations do. Mike tried

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his best there. So I know
a lot of fans are upset about that

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little three game winning streak that they
had ended the season that took them out

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of the top lottery odds. I
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I think after the Timomyer trade it
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happened, you know, right back
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was the least in the league,
I believe. From from that point on,

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I don't remember who they're tied with, one of the you know,

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other bottom dwelling teams, but so
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uh try to try to try to
try to tank there and um they

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tried to win during the off season
in a kind of a bye way by

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you know, adding a certain type
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NHL player, guys like Sturm and
Benning and so on. And it worked

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insofar as the team. I think
most people would agree that even the eye

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tests and the analytics back it up
too. That up to the point the

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Mayer trade or a little bit before
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the team was actually playing. You
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they weren't in the playoffs, they
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just watching them, they looked like
a better team, a better team than

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their than their record. And they
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losses, which is second in the
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record to give the idea of for
that status eighteen, you know, since

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the shootout was introduced. So the
Sharks had a lot, they were in

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a lot of close games and they
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almost all of them. That at
the end there, um, so Anyway,

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the big picture of the of the
rebuild once Mike saw that his team

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wasn't really kind of spinning its wheels
a little bit. If you remember in

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November, um, you know,
we we you know Eric Carlson's that admits

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at the beginning of a renaissance season, it's still early in the season,

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even though that the team started zero
five and zero and Micros already talking,

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putting out there that yeah, everybody's
for a fur trade. Everybody's available,

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and you know, I'll listen on
anybody, and so he you know,

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so so so he tried, you
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Okay, this isn't quite gonna work, and so let's let's try to get

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what we can for these guys.
Um. The answer the final part about

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you know, the full like if
they want like a full tilt for for

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a rebuild wall, it's hard to
because, um, even if you manage

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to trade a lot of the big
contracts, right Carlson, Hurdle, lastic

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coutur Um, you just they're very
hard to trade. And if you really

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want to supercharge or rebuild, you
trade those contracts, but then you end

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up with lopsided deals like Red Burns
which you know, fans are killing my

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career four. But Mike really didn't
have much of a negotiating position there.

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You know, Burns had a three
team trade clause, so Burns had to

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agree to go to and Carolina wasn't
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Burns had to agree to go where
where where Careers sent him. Uh.

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You know, Burns was thirty seven, three years left on his contract.

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Um, it's a lot of concern
about that, like how he would hold

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up over the life of that contract. Obviously right now it looks like as

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still for Carolina. But you know, if your shark stands and you're willing

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to take you know, two quarters
three quarters on a dollar uh out our

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lastics case, even maybe less than
that, Like if you're okay with that,

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then you can super charge or red
build. But otherwise, um,

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you know you can. You got
to kind of hold onto some of these

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guys. I mean, they have
more value to you on the ice than

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than trading them for you know,
I'd reduced a discounts. Yeah, great,

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great insight there, shang it.
You know, I think for me,

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the only thing I would say is
that I don't think Mike had a

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whole lot of options. I wish
and I was advocating for some of these

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guys to be moved the year before, especially when Meyer had that extra year.

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You know, I think he could
have garnered a lot more when he

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had that extra year of his contract. But at this point, as you

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said, like his hands were really
pretty tired, and the fact that he

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got a player that we'll talk about
later, and you know, for the

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team of Meyer deal, and you
know some of the other things that he's

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been able to do. It's it's
a start, right, It's a it's

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a move in the right direction,
right right. Yeah, Philosophically, I

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think the organization is going the right
direction. Uh. Last you know,

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Doug Wilson might might have resigned Timo
Meyer, which might have tried to,

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which is uh, you know,
Timo is a great player, but not

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the right move for a rebuild and
the Doug Wilson regime, even though it

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was Joel who officially signed him,
resigned Thomas Hurtle to the eight your extension.

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Not sure obviously that was the right
move for for a rebuild. And

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so yeah, so I think at
least Mike is um. Mike is doing

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things the right way, even if
you have him, liked all the returns

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that he's gotten for Birds and you
know Admyer definitely. And speaking of one

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of those players that we just mentioned, Thomas Hurtle, we're gonna start with

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our forwards and he's the first guy
we're going to talk about. The one

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of the one of the best forward
is one of the best players left on

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the team. We'll mention some of
the ranks and stuff that we had so

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last preseason I had him at eighty
third and Jesse had fifty five. He

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was kind of in between their ranking
seventy one for fantasy. We both have

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him around that for a Tier two
type player next year. The fact that

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Hurtle's point pace held steady at sixty
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that was pretty impressive with far less
talent around him. He had similar

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time on ice and power play,
and an increase in power play time on

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ice, and the twenty two power
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a career high, though most of
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Carlsson helped out a great deal in
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is that his defensive expected goals against
per sixty went way down this season,

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normally a really good two way forward, and certainly the environment around him had

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a lot to do with that,
I am sure, but overall, still

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a very impactful forward. His PDO
and shooting percentage actually suggests that Hurtle might

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have deserved a few more points,
maybe a little bit closer to seventy or

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over that. So, Shan,
what should we expect from Toomas Hurtle next

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year? Yeah, I think about
what he's done to the last couple of

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years in terms of fantasy, maybe
a few more goals. Like you mentioned,

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he kind of took on more of
a shooting shooting role when Timomayer left,

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and the Sharks aren't I don't believe
they're gonna have anybody of a teamost

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Paliber this offseason, and so Tomas
Turtle will be looked to to score some

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goals here, and so I think
that he will. He will kind of

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a meet that past a head on. And you mentioned that even though this

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was considered a down year for Tomash
that he still was a pretty productive and

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so yeah, I expect this and
actually maybe a little bit more next year.

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Logan could sure is the next guy
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him kind of back into the top
one hundred and tier three guys. Last

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year, actually he was the sixty
sixth best Fantasy hockey forward and for the

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coming year. Victor says tier two, I say tier three. He had

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twenty seven goals, forty assists sixty
seven points in eighty two games as the

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centerman. There a really kind of
a sneakily decent year for the captain,

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his best scoring rate per minute since
twenty eighteen nineteen, A solid eighty two

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game season even in rough waters for
the Sharks. Of course, he'd better

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be good. He's eight million per
year for another four seasons after this one.

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But unsurprisingly, with his week surrounding
cast, things went way better with

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him on the ice than without him. The Sharks were much worse when he

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wasn't out there. The power play, for example, dropped like a rock

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when he wasn't on the ice.
If you look at the wowie the with

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or without you rates of cture,
the two guys he was best with last

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year, Esimon and Meyer, are
both gone, so that's a bad sign

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for his continued production. So I
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this team is going to bring back
or bring in next year. But are

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we gonna be able to see another
year of sixty five steady points with good

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black shots, hits, Bash or
will age and the attrition of talent around

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Coacher finally chip away at his expected
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you'd never know, because Logan is
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at his mid thirties. I think
he's gonna be thirty four, So it

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can happen anytime, but we really
have no idea when that will happen.

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Based on this year, we did
not see too much slippage or any really

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at all, and so yeah,
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Logan can repeat this. I think
he's as good a players as he was

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this year, a couple of years
ago, three years ago. I think

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the two big questions for Logan are
first, if he can stay healthy.

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He managed to stay healthy this year, which is not always the norm for

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a guy that walks a lot of
shots and is always involved on the two

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way end. You know, it
gets himself hurt that way, and so

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don't don't know if he can repeat
that part of it. And the second

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part of it, this goes for
tomash hurdle too, right now, the

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Sharks are bringing back one, one
competent, one guy that we know can

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score points at NHL, and that's
Alexander Barrabona. They have not learned to

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to clone or to triplicate at bearer
bon Off, So they're gonna have to

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one of the one of these centers
is gonna get bar Bonds to play with

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one of them, won't um Glass
year Tomash Hurdle for most of the season

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played with Chimo Meyer until Chimo was
treated, So Hurdle had that, you

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know, to kind of uh to
kind of pick up his points and to

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help him out. But then again, next year they're looking like they might

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only have one such one such player, unless, of course, one of

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the younger players steps in and feels
that role. I know we'll talk about

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William Ecklin and in a little bit, but uh so that could That's I

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think those are the two kind of
challenges for well, you know, for

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birth, both Hurdle and Quatre both
just health and um just aren't enough NHL

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you know, uh, possible top
six wingers to play with. Well,

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you said it. The it's inevitable. The third forward we talk about coming

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back because it's Alexander b H.
Victor and I really didn't see this guy

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coming as far as ranking him last
year, but he was one hundred thirty

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first best forward, and Victor and
I are both going to consider him tier

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three type players coming in the next
year. In his second full season at

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twenty eight years old, the five
ten winger Brebanoff ended up the fourth leading

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scorer on the team at year's end, fifth if you count Timmer above him.

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He didn't come over from the KHL
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that's part of the reason he's such
a late bloomer so to speak. Fifteen

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goals thirty two assists for forty seven
points in sixty eight games, although didn't

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have much bash seventeen minutes on ice. He and Coachure were glued together virtually

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all year, and he was fourth
in power play time and I so he

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had the opportunities with the best player
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the team and a season wrap nine
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I know this because I looked on
rhodowire and all of the reports were

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there from this guy, Shang Peng. He had lots of good tips on

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the stat bear Bonoff, so you
should look into him. So not to

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be rude to bear Bonoff, but
is this a guy holding up a top

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six role by default because there're just
no other guys there, or is this

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kind of a sneaky talent of the
Sharks found who's gonna retain a role even

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when the Sharks stock back ups.
He's on a very good contract and presumably

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will be good from that element.
So what do you think shank bear Bonoff?

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Well, I think it's a little
bit of both. Obviously, bar

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Bonoff has received a higher role when
the Shark straight for him in the twenty

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twenty one season because the Sharks didn't
have a lot of a lot of great

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wingers back then. It still don't, and the Sharks aren't looking to I'm

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not sure when the Sharks will have
a slew of great wingers again, but

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probably won't be soon. And so
I think the Alex will come in and

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have a elevated role once again.
And um, he's been sneaky good though

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still, and so I think he's
gonna be productive once again. There's no

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no reason why why he shouldn't.
He gonna get plenty of time, and

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he's been productive in every you know, uh, in the parts of three

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seasons with the Sharks. Right,
he's been productive in all those, all

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those stretches of time, and so
there's no reason why he shouldn't. He

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shouldn't be right there. And the
forty, you know, was gonna hit

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fifty this year if he had stayed
healthy. Well, now we're now,

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we're moving. Now we're getting there. Shang uh, next guy, I'll

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up, I'll talk about it's Jacob
Peterson. We're in dark waters. Yeah,

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I don't know if it's shark infested
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I'm not sure which. Anyway,
not to insult mister Jacob Peterson because he

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came over from the Dallas Stars of
the trade deadline and what did he do

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to me? Nothing? Jacob Peterson
probably a nice guy. I don't know,

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he's been It's good. He'd been
buried in the HL all year was

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his problem. But after a couple
of weeks skating for Saint Jose's HL Barracuda,

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he got eleven games on the big
club, scored eight points in those

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eleven games, with two shots in
a hit per game, almost eighteen average

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timonized almost three minutes of power play
time per game. He only turns twenty

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four this season. Could he be
good this year? Maybe fifty points if

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if you look at the smooth ice
time for this team. By the way,

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he was at the top with Coucher
by the end of the year,

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Like he was getting the best average
ice time with Coucher and Hurdle at the

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very end of the year if you
look at it. So anyway, fifty

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points score. Come on, tell
me Jacob Peterson is going to be a

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guy next year? You know,
I think he's definitely a sleeper for sure.

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San Jose has a lot of opportunity. Like we said, the only

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established winger, that established oring winger
that they're bringing back is Baron Bonoff.

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He Jacob was good in that little
sample size, and actually he might have

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reminded a little bit of Barre Bonof
because one a shark for bart Bonoff.

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In the twenty twenty twenty one season, I think bart Bonoff came in had

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seven points in nine games next to
a Hurdle and Evander Kane, and he

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looked like the player next to them. And the next year I think he

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had a bare bonaf had with thirty
nine points or something. Like that,

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and he was hurt too, so
so you know, forty point paced guy,

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so I don't know, fifty points. You know, he's got to

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stay healthy. A lot of things
got to go right for that. But

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um Peterson's gonna get air opportunity,
I think um to uh. And he's

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RFA so they haven't even signed yet, but I assume that they're gonna bring

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him back, and they're gonna,
they're gonna they're gonna let let him,

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let him roll a little bit and
see if if he is if he is

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somebody, And once again, yeah, I think he's, you know,

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gonna be somebody that's gonna benefit from
a lot of opportunity that the Sharks can

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can offer. But then he's also
on on the other side that he's gonna

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get to show some of the some
of the skills that were buried a little

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bit in the Dallas organization. Martin
count is our next guy. He was

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part of a deal that sent Ryan
Merkley and Matt need Not Jacob Matt Miedo

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to Colorado along with Jacob McDonald.
So this is a guy that the Sharks

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went out and got this year in
January, and then the right winger Count

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mostly labored in the AHL after arriving. You did get a little run though,

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when Ginny Svechnikov missed a few games
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Had five points in nine games in
San Jose after only one after only three

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and twenty seven for Colorado, so
he's a little more productive there, but

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a very small sample end of the
season back in the h L. Is

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count a guy who could fall into
a gap and get some minutes this year

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if San Jose doesn't decide to sign
you know, a bunch of kind of

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stop gap type guys. Yeah,
yeah, I mean you put it right

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right. The San Jose Wingler situation
is a lot of guys that are honestly

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would be seen as stop gap guys, or they're the younger prospects that you

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hope established themselves, like Ecklen and
Bordelo and etc. So, you know,

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Count, I think it's definitely at
the moment, you know, behind

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the Peterson. But can can account
catch up and make up that ground quickly?

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Yeah? You know, I don't
think. I don't think Jacob's portfolio

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work last year, you know,
was so you know, so impressive that

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that that cow can't can't make up
that ground in training camp. So so

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I think, yeah, I think
Colt's a little bit of a sleeper too,

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though I would say they'll just based
on last year that Peterson was more

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on a night to night basis,
more impressive, which is part in part

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why Peterson just kept getting more playing
time and was not sent down once he

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got called up, whereas Colt.
You know, I think he was sent

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down and called back up twice,
a little bit of a you know,

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revolving door for him, um,
you know, and even just the eye

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test, I you know, Peterson
looked a little more. Peterson was consistently

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making plays more uh you know,
playing with high skilled players like Hurdle,

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Eric Carlson that's the ruth than Colt. So Peterson was more consistent dad regarded

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a night to night basis, even
though Cout has more size and dack kind

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of stuff. But but Cout definitely
is a caundidate though, you know,

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another a good kind of sleeper condidate. Yeah, Victor, I should say,

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uh, you know, Victor and
I kind of trade off these.

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I think Victor was just too depressed
to cover the next guy. He planted

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this question with me, and not
only did he plant the guy he planted

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the question, and it is is
Kevin Lebank done? Uh, let's describe

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Kevin Lebank's here, because it's it's
just rough. It just hasn't turned out.

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I think the way a lot of
us, including mister Lebank, I'm

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sure, had hoped fifteen goals,
eighteen assists for thirty three points and seventy

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two games for the twenty seven year
old right winger. He really had some

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struggles in March. I kind of
wonder. Apparently he had a child at

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that point, and I wonder he
really really both had to take some games

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off and just did not score.
You wonder about some of these things,

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And I'm not you know, I
should be careful with my narratives, but

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look, it's a real thing.
Sometimes you can't get very good sleep when

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you have a new kid, when
you're about to have the new kid,

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after you have the new kid.
Maybe it was, you know, a

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disruptive time off the ice for l
Bank or something like that. I don't

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know. I don't want to get
into his personal business, but in any

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event, it wasn't a great season
for mister Lebank. Do you think we

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could maybe see a little bit more
from him? Next year, Is this

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just what la Bank's going to be. Yeah. Well, first, yeah,

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he and his wife, Kelly had
a child. I believe it was

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in January. And also to Kevin, Lebank's father actually had a pretty unfortunate

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accident and around Thanksgiving had a went
into a medically induced coma. Thankfully,

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by the end of the season his
dad was out of it and you know,

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in much better shape. Um,
but that was something that was very

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hard for you, I'm sure for
for Kevin to deal with throughout the year.

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Um, in terms of just you
know, I know now we're you

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know, kind of a jarring transition. But in terms of just on the

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ice though, Um, Kevin has
a lot of offensive talent. I don't

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think there's any doubt about that.
Uh. You know, most of those

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points, those thirty three points that
you mentioned were when he was on a

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line with Thomas Hurdle and Tim o'meyer, and that was in mid season or

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you know, a little before mid
season. They were very productive. If

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you look at at least the analytics, uh, that suggests that that was

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one of the best lines in hockey
obviously. David Our David David Greer at

407
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:48,559
something David Allen gred as somebody else
obviously, Uh, David Quinn didn't didn't

408
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:52,640
didn't didn't didn't see enough or didn't
think enough of that line to keep it

409
00:28:52,680 --> 00:29:00,599
together. And so uh you know, after after that point of Lebank on

410
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200
the first line, then Lebank's ice
time started getting yo yo all around,

411
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:08,599
taking off the power play third fourth
line most a lot of fourth line.

412
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:14,720
And so we know that once again
that that lea Bank has a lot of

413
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,839
offensive talent. And this team,
as we as we mentioned is uh you

414
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,519
know, it has a lot opportunity
for for a scoring winger and so Kemn's

415
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,200
gonna get another chance at it.
Probably, Um there's a chance that le

416
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:34,359
bank is is traded this offseason.
Um, I would think that I would

417
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,799
think that that, you know,
maybe he might want a fresh start,

418
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:41,839
I don't know, And I would
think that the Sharks might might want to

419
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,440
move on from him too. But
uh, he has he has a contract

420
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,640
that makes him hard to move.
He's got one more year at four point

421
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,119
seventy two five million. Because it's
at one more year, it makes him

422
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,119
easier to move than it was say
this past season, when I think it

423
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,880
was pretty much impossible to move him, But so you could see a swap

424
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,079
of kind of you know, not
great contracts, right Connor Garland. Right,

425
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:11,680
just just just for example, um
or, I don't think they'll retain

426
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,240
on him because already using one of
their retainment spots on Brent Burns, and

427
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:19,000
they might need to sabers him in
spot for Eric Carlson. So I don't

428
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,839
think that they would. I don't
just don't see much reason for them to

429
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,599
do that, uh for for the
bank, but um so that is possible.

430
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,279
Another it may also would be a
wise and a lot of ways to

431
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,680
let Kevin play out this year and
hope that by the trade deadline he's built

432
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,400
his stock up that you know,
as expiring contract. The UFA to b

433
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:42,119
that team will be like, yeah, we'll give you a you know whatever

434
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,000
round pick just to have an extra, you know, that offensive forward just

435
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,599
in case you have an injury.
We can plug in a guy that's capable

436
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,279
of playing top six minutes you know, at least four stretches there. And

437
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:57,599
so so I could see that happening
too. Um Uh if things work out

438
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,799
that you know that that Kevin can
be productive and consistently consistently in the lineup

439
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:04,519
up to the deadline and then he
gets moved there. So I don't think

440
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,920
it's the na Chevin L. Bank. I mean, he's an offensively a

441
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,960
gifted player. Um. But I
think though that there's always going to be

442
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:17,400
that struggle with him. You know, he's twenty seven already. He's never

443
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,920
going to be it seems like that, you know, you hope that two

444
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,160
way winger just you know, his
his frame makes it harder. Maybe his

445
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,559
engagement you know on a two way
side, you know, kind of wack

446
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:33,079
his waxes and wayns too, and
so he may never be that kind of

447
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,759
guy, um, but he is, you know, he's going to have

448
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,680
his offensive gifts and uh and so
that's going to be of some value to

449
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,000
somebody, whether it's where the Sharks
or another team. Yeah. I didn't

450
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,160
even know about his father. Gosh, that's that's awful. And and I

451
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,319
don't want to overplay the narratives because
it's not like Lea Bank had been blown

452
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,079
it out of the water before this
year when all these persons. But I

453
00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,480
think we forget sometimes these people are
humans. Yeah, and you know,

454
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:05,240
things that happen in their lives are
impacting probably their ability to concentrate and do

455
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,920
their jobs just like they would everybody. The last couple of guys that I'm

456
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,519
just gonna throw at you, Victor
and I in a later thing, are

457
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,480
gonna talk about some of the prospects. But you got William Eklund, you

458
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:21,160
got Thomas Bordelow, a couple of
big prospects, and then Andreas Johnson.

459
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640
He's a UFA, but maybe they
bring him back. I mean, he's

460
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,480
part of the whole New Jersey situation. Can any of those guys you think

461
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,519
make this team and maybe put up
a fifty point pace shing is there is

462
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:36,960
there hope for another winger to pop
up who's already on this roster somewhere.

463
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,799
Uh you know, of those three, I would say the most likely is

464
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:44,519
Eklin. Even though Equlin did not
score a lot when he was up,

465
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,119
he was I think very h He
looked like an anhel player. He had

466
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,039
a lot of chances, he was
around a lot of stuff. Just you

467
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:58,359
know, Puck wasn't going in or
he wasn't getting that that assist there,

468
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,359
and so I think that can happen
next year. Um And you could see

469
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:06,440
and how the Sharks used him compared
to stay in border though they trusted Elyn.

470
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,279
David Quinn called the Equlyn an honest
player, which from David Quinn is

471
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:15,559
a real compliment when he calls a
player that, you know, he reserved

472
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:20,039
that compliment for guys like a tour
and Sturm and just guys like that and

473
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:25,160
just because And what he means by
that is just Equlin's commitment to two way

474
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,480
hockey, playing hard all the time, not taking shortcuts to cheat for offense,

475
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,720
that sort of thing. Um.
And that's the kind of thing that

476
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,279
keeps a guy in the lineup,
you know, like if he's not producing

477
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,119
h if he's still good defensively and
he's still you know, he's not you

478
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,039
know, turning the puck over all
over you know, all of these careful

479
00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:50,480
with the puck um that keeps a
guy in alive up so then he can

480
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:55,319
start producing UM. And so I
anticipate that Equelin should have a regular role

481
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:59,359
with the Sharks next year, and
a pretty safe role with the Sharks next

482
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,079
year, and that could lead to
UH, that could lead to a good

483
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:07,000
amount of offensive production once again,
a lot of opportunity on the Sharks.

484
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,280
So so I think, um,
I think Eklin is a very very good.

485
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,800
Uh, sort of a a roll
of a dice there if you're you

486
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,920
know, a drafting him late.
Um, Bordelo is definitely not a safe

487
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,519
Bortolo has a lot of offensive offensive
talent, but uh, you know,

488
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:30,719
in contrast to Ecclin, you know, a scout told me, um of

489
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:37,079
of of Bordelo, he is not
an honest player, and he is a

490
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:42,639
guy that cheats for offense and doesn't
is not always committed defensively. And um,

491
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,719
he's the kind of guy that if
he's not producing offensively for you,

492
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,039
you know a little bit like La
Bank, then uh, you know,

493
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:52,480
what is he doing there for you
there? And that's the kind of player

494
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:58,159
that can can struggle even with a
with a shallow Sharks lineup, you know,

495
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,079
can can struggle to gain a lineup
on a nightly basis. I think

496
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:06,400
there's a little bit more of a
standard that the Sharks are trying, like

497
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,000
any team is trying to uphold,
of having guys that you know, backcheck

498
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,400
backcheck hard, that give you one
hundred ten percent in all zones of the

499
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,159
ice. And so I'm not sure
Bortolo has a big summer ahead of him

500
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,000
to show the Sharks that his game
his body. That's sort of he's a

501
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:30,880
smaller guy too. All that stuff
has taken a leap next year to kind

502
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,079
of match with sort of his offensive
gifts. So Bortolo has a shot at

503
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,599
that just because he has offensive talent
to score a decent amount. But in

504
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,280
terms of just where they are in
the development or progress, I think eqlan

505
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,079
Is is pretty well ahead of Bordolo
at the moment based on this season.

506
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Johnson is Obviously Johnson has had good
years before, but and he's relatively young,

507
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:57,000
but those good years were a couple
of years ago, and otherwise he

508
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:59,639
has you know, been in a
you know, he's in the agel this

509
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,119
year. Last year, I think
for New Jersey, I think he was

510
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:07,000
maybe like a twenty thirty point scorer. So even though yeah, so I

511
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,880
don't know, I'm not even sure
they'll they'll bring him back, and I

512
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,199
don't think he was so good in
his sort of a cup of coffee with

513
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,000
the Sharks before he got hurt that
that tells like, oh, we got

514
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,079
to bring this guy back, just
unlike the Peterson you know, who I

515
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,639
think did well enough in that short
stint that you got to bring that guy

516
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,920
back on cheap and Peter soon will
be cheap. He's an RFA. Johnson

517
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,280
is a UFA, but he also
should be very inexpensive too, So so

518
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,320
there's a chance obviously because we've seen
in a past with Andreas. But I

519
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,360
wouldn't count on it though, And
so I guess if I were to go

520
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:45,280
in order of if you had to
pick of that trio Eklyn way above,

521
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,679
I would put Eklyn with You should
draft him because he's going to get a

522
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:54,880
lot of opportunity this year and he
is a good, pretty good defensive player,

523
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,639
which means that he's gonna stay in
the lineup. That's that's that's that's

524
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:00,239
what that means, and that should
allow him a chance to, you know,

525
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:06,960
let the offensive skills start to flourish. So Ecklin by far and then

526
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,760
Bordelo and Johnson. I'll put a
little ahead of Johnson, but yeah,

527
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,559
either way, I think both of
those guys have a lot of question marks.

528
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,800
You will see if those question marks
can be answered, great rundown on

529
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,000
those players. Shang, let's let's
make this a little bit of a happy

530
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,880
turn because we're going to talk about
defense, and of course we have to

531
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,320
talk about Eric Carlson and that was
pretty fun. So, you know,

532
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,960
I gotta remember coming into this season, he'd had a bit of a down

533
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,840
year, so I had him ranked
as a Tier one player, but thirty

534
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,159
first Jesse fifty five second tier.
Well, he finished as this second best

535
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:46,320
defenseman in fantasy, So yeah,
we were a little bit wrong on that

536
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,719
not but going in the next year, hard to imagine he'll do the same,

537
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,639
But we still have him ranked as
the top tier player, both of

538
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,639
us. What a season he had. I have to imagine he wins the

539
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:00,679
Norris. We will see. I
know, Shang, you made a really

540
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,400
good case in your March twenty eighth
article on San Jose Hockey Now about how

541
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,480
he should and there's some updates since
then, obviously, But Carlson end of

542
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:14,719
the season with the career high one
hundred and one points twenty seven power play

543
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,119
points, which was not a career
high, and he's only the sixth defenseman

544
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:21,840
to do it one hundred times.
Bobby Orr and Paul Coffee did it five

545
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,880
times each, and then Al mckinnis, Brian Leech, and Dennis Potvin did

546
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,159
it once each, which is still
crazy impressive. One of the most impressive

547
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:34,800
things to me about his season,
Shang is that he had sixty five even

548
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,400
strength points, which was twenty more
than Josh Morrissey and twenty three more than

549
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Vince Donne. And there are other
guys on that list like Dougie Hamilton that

550
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:47,119
he had way more than And you're
talking about doing this with a far inferior

551
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:52,599
supporting cast. I think we could
all agree. So that was super impressive.

552
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,480
His evolving hockey graphs are just hilarious, so because it looks like his

553
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:01,239
offense is trying to escape the page
on top and the defense is trying to

554
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,280
just fall out the bottom. It's
all offense all the time with Carlson.

555
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,119
And the other really impressive thing to
me is, you know, Don Lucision

556
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,679
does these player cards and he looks
at all the impact of the players based

557
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:20,679
on salary and everything. And Eric
Carlson making eleven point five million is a

558
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,239
lot, and some people have argued
myself included that it's a little too much,

559
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,360
and I didn't love the contract at
the time. But this year in

560
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,639
particular, he had a surplus value
at three point four million, which is

561
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:37,800
just crazy to think that he put
up in fourteen and a point nine million

562
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,880
dollar market value season just crazy.
We could go on and on about Carlson

563
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,320
Scheng, but we should probably talk
about next year, and specifically, we'll

564
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,639
feel free to mention anything you want
about this year. But how do how

565
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:54,360
do we see him going into next
season? Do he First of all,

566
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,039
do the Sharks move him? I
know there's been talk about that. Obviously

567
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,480
a little bit prohibitive with the contract, but based on the season he just

568
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:05,639
had makes it a little bit easier. So do you think he'll be with

569
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:08,519
the Sharks next year? And if
not, um or if he is,

570
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:12,519
what kind of role do you think
he'll have? Um? Yeah, I

571
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:17,920
think if Eric stays healthy um And
that's always a big question mark with him.

572
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,920
But if Eric stays healthy, he's
gonna be just fine. Uh.

573
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:28,119
We even even last year right where
the production wasn't as as much, but

574
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,840
I think a lot of that was
was was histemic block. Bogner, I

575
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,599
think, was a lot more defensive
than David Quinn, whereas David Quinn David

576
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:44,199
Quinn system is more offensive leaning,
more offense encouraging, which is perfect for

577
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:50,239
Carlson's sort of sort of skills.
But even under Bogner's system last year,

578
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,920
in the first half of the season
where Eric Carlson was healthy, he had

579
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,159
twenty six points in thirty three games, and the Sharks were in the playoffs.

580
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,480
They had the last wildcard spot in
the first half of a last year,

581
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,760
and then Eric got hurt and then
the Sharks all out of the standings

582
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,519
and and so yeah, so that
that just sort of, uh, you

583
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:14,679
know, Eric's play dipped after that. But as long as Carlson stays healthy,

584
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,400
I think he's gonna be he's gonna
be pretty pretty productive. Um.

585
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,800
The second point though, in terms
of whatnot he's with the Sharks anymore,

586
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,239
I would you know, again,
he's got three years left at eleven point

587
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,000
five million. Um, that's that's
tough to move, even if the Sharks

588
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:34,960
recame a lot there. But I
would think though, I would guess that

589
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:39,119
he gets moved this summer. So
so I I uh, and I think

590
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:42,599
whatever team obviously takes him on,
he's going to be a you know,

591
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,840
a number one defenseman and top power
play option, and so he should be

592
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:52,400
productive and he should play with much
better players, much better wingers and centers

593
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,760
and all that stuff. So so
he should be going to a good situation.

594
00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:00,719
And so um, I think,
uh yeah, in respect where he

595
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,559
is playing. As long as he
stays healthy, Um, then he's going

596
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:08,440
to be productive for you. Yeah, for sure. I have to think

597
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:14,760
that Greer was trying to get the
best value from the trade deadline and didn't

598
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,039
quite get it. So he's waiting
for the summer to make that move.

599
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:23,119
We will see, I wanna.
I guess The next question is if Carlson

600
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:27,039
moves, which it seems like he
might, who do you think steps into

601
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,639
that role and gets that that juicy
power play time with all those stars started

602
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:35,800
forwards? Well, uh, you
said that, you know, we're getting

603
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,960
out of the pressing territory talking about
Eric Carlson's twenty two twenty three season.

604
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:45,840
Well, now we're we're back.
We're a hello Darkness, my old friend

605
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:52,480
again. So um, here's an
illustration. Um so uh. Eric Carlson

606
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,800
had one hundred and one points.
Second on the Sharks among Sharks defenseman was

607
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:02,239
Matt Benning with twenty four points.
That's a seventy seven point difference between first

608
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,360
and second place. Give you an
illustration on how big that gap was.

609
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:14,719
In the overall defenseman scoring race,
Quinn Hughes and Josh Morrissey were second to

610
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,599
Carlson was seventy six points and so
there was a Quinn Hughes Josh Morricy gap

611
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:28,079
between Eric Carlson and and second place
Matt Benning on the Sharks. Um so

612
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,639
if Carlson leaves, honestly, it's
you know, it's a call nine one

613
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,320
one. I don't know. Um, Matt Benning did play power Play two

614
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,719
last year. He was the main
guy on power Play two. Um,

615
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,519
I mean he could he couldn't move
up. And in fairness to Matt,

616
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:51,719
actually if you look at his five
on five production, he actually was most

617
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,079
of his production maybe I think maybe
all of it was was what none of

618
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:57,519
it was on a power play,
So not great going on power Play,

619
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:01,559
but even strength five on five,
I think he actually was like fifteenth among

620
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:06,960
defensemen in terms of a point scoring
rate. Um. So, so he

621
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,960
actually did okay there. But my
guess if if Carlson leaves and they don't

622
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:19,599
really add anybody actually a sleeper,
there is a guy Jacob McDonald, and

623
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:24,039
McDonald has you know, he's a
multi mut multiple time HL all starting the

624
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,760
HL. Jacob McDonald is basically Eric
Carlson or Brett or Bret Burns. If

625
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,119
you look at his stats. I
mean, he's you know, he's he's

626
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,599
very productive in HL from the back
end and in the In the HL,

627
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:42,800
he shows some good offensive instincts,
you know, hasn't really converted into production

628
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:49,360
yet. But I would actually guess
in that situation, if Carlson is dealt

629
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,239
and they don't really add anybody,
and you know, they go in on

630
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,360
the tank for another year, which
is it makes sense for the Sharks,

631
00:44:54,639 --> 00:45:00,400
that I would think that Jacob McDonald
actually would get the first shot at uh

632
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,239
at a pp one. Uh.
Like I said, though, going from

633
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:10,159
Eric Carlson to Matt Benning or Jacob
McDonald is uh, yeah, that's a

634
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,840
that's top. So so you're saying
the Sharks are getting Macklins Cellabrini next year,

635
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,480
That's what That's what I That's what
I heard you say right there.

636
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,320
I got to try too. I
think arcalism and I'd be fine too.

637
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:30,039
Um So, the yeah, like
you said, real big drop off.

638
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,360
I think one of the things that
might is a little bit interesting to me.

639
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:36,559
I don't really think that any of
the guy is currently on the roster

640
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,920
scream. I can be really good
at running a top power play, but

641
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,519
a couple of new guys and maybe
you can just comment on them briefly,

642
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:50,119
and that is their recent acquisition,
Henry Thrunt and Shakier mccamah doulan. Both

643
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,840
of these guys either ran the power
Play in college or at least had some

644
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:59,280
power play time in the KHL with
mccamadoland. So they, you know,

645
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,840
obviously have done it at this level. But maybe maybe they get a role,

646
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,599
and you know, maybe it's unlikely
because they're a little bit new,

647
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:09,440
but also they have that skill set
whereas most of these other guys except maybe

648
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:14,719
McDonald don't don't so much. So
what do you think about those two and

649
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000
just beyond what do you kind of
expect from them? Yeah, yeah,

650
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,480
though those are two a great possible
options that you bring up there. David

651
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,719
Quinn really likes Thrun's game. Throun
looks like he has a very age already

652
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,760
game, and so I can see
Thron on the Powerplay next year, especially

653
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,519
if Carlson isn't what the Sharks anymore. Throun is not a the one weakness

654
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:37,679
in his game and he's not a
great skater, so um, you don't

655
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:42,239
know if you're necessarily how much you
wanted to quarterback to powerplay and whatnot.

656
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,079
You'll need to support him a bit
with other forwards on the breakout, and

657
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,320
so that's going to be a little
bit of a weakness. But in zone

658
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,760
though, he's a pretty smart guy. Smart puck mover. Uh, you

659
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,320
know, I think, you know, should be able to get the puck

660
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,880
through. And so I could see
Throun with a powerplay role. Uh and

661
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,079
look am a duel And actually,
you know, when the Sharks frustrated for

662
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,800
him, you look at his profile, he's you know, six five sixty

663
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,639
six. Um, you think that, oh, this is gonna be a

664
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:12,519
more defensive guy or whatever. Right, Actually, with the baracuta, I

665
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:15,480
think he had like nine points in
twelve games, and he looked more comfortable

666
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:17,559
with the puck than without the puck. So he's a guy that I think

667
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:22,679
there's a very good chance in the
future that on a good team he could

668
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,559
be maybe not your top power play
guy, but a very good u PP

669
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,960
two guy PP two guy. And
so I could see that in Muka mcdoulan's

670
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,000
future. I don't know about this
year. That could be a little bit

671
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,760
of a tough a tough thing to
forson into his game is not as like

672
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,519
I said, not as mature as
a defensively and not as mature as as

673
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:47,920
the runs. And so I think
another a full year down with the Baracouta

674
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:51,960
or most of the year the Baracuta
could be could be good for him.

675
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,960
But again if Carlson is dealt,
and even with Carlson there, there's a

676
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,440
lot of opportunity in the blue.
I know that they have a lot of

677
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:06,719
guys signed there, the Sharks,
but really only Carlson you know, you

678
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,559
know is you know, it's a
guy that you're not going to take ice

679
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:13,840
time away from him, but everybody
else you can, you can in theory

680
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,199
a leap frog for more, for
more a playing time, um and so

681
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,000
uh so yeah, so I think
there's definitely gonna opportunity there for for Shakire

682
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,960
and both of them have bright features. Both of them look like uh,

683
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,639
there's a pretty good chance that that
that they will be top for ANHIL defenseman

684
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:36,559
for for a long time. And
not just because the Sharks are you know,

685
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:38,639
a bad team, but even on
a good team. Uh you see

686
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:44,760
those guys having having roles, uh
good roles in NHL. But you know

687
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,599
it's gonna be again a little tough
next year because uh, to Ron and

688
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:52,719
mccamoolan are young, um, and
so yeah, so I would still guess

689
00:48:53,079 --> 00:49:00,039
it would be uh McDonald first in
line uh for for PR play one,

690
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,159
if the Sharks still make any additions
and just subtract you know, Carlson from

691
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:09,280
the roster. Yeah. Frankly,
if if the Sharks want to get Celebrati

692
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,840
or Eiserman, they should leave Thrown
and mcama dulan in the HL all of

693
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,360
next year. Yeah, I think
they're their best options. And I mean,

694
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,800
honestly, you know, the tank
plans were really the rail by Carlson.

695
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,000
I mean, imagine, uh if
if Carlson had his typical like uh

696
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:30,000
you know, he had his you
know, I think he's been hurt in

697
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:35,639
uh for three of the first four
years the Sharks, uh Carlson like you

698
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:40,679
know, like heard for for significant
stretches of time. And I don't think

699
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,360
people were counting on I don't think
Mike persons be counting on Eric Carlson uh

700
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,440
playing eighty two games and scoring one
hundred one points for the tank, you

701
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,239
know. And so yeah, you
know, Eric Carlson enemy of the tank.

702
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:58,639
So yeah, seriously, all right, Well let's move on to an

703
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:02,440
even more depressing topic, and that's
the Sharks goaltending. And the Sharks actually

704
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,440
they had the twenty fourth best expected
goals against per sixty at five to five.

705
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,000
Nothing to write home about, and
that was probably better too a mid

706
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,599
season two you know, after the
trade deadline, a team really became a

707
00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:17,199
mess in sort of just you know, uh, just how they played,

708
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,159
you know, and the players that
they had to play, just they weren't

709
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,119
a you know, a good team
together. But before that, though,

710
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:28,360
that twenty fourth I'm fairly sharked in
was it was a bit higher, you

711
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,920
know, closer to average, you
know that what we're talking mid season,

712
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:37,159
Yeah, exactly, a good point. They were actually thirtieth though in goals

713
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:42,159
allowed per game, so that the
expected numbers were quite a bit better.

714
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,960
And if you look at the individual
goalies, Aaron Dell only played four games

715
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,440
but had the best goal save above
above expected Shan what year is it?

716
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:58,639
Aaron Dell had the best numbers on
the Sharks tide twenty Yeah, marn Jones

717
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:00,960
that year. It's very weird.
Anyways, James Rhymer of course, and

718
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:06,000
keble Kachinen did the line's share of
the work, and you know, we

719
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,079
can just talk about both of these
together. And kakin In, you know,

720
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,840
he's he's the only one under contract
for next year. Rhymer is a

721
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,960
UFA unclear whether they'll they'll bring him
back or not. Both of these guys,

722
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:21,559
as you as you might imagine,
struggled. They didn't get the best

723
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:25,760
protection and didn't outperform it by any
means. In facted much worse than expected.

724
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,000
So I think, you know,
for kapping In, obviously a little

725
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,960
bit younger, maybe there's a little
bit more you know, room for like,

726
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,800
okay, maybe he can still continue
to improve. He's got one more

727
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,199
year at two point seven five.
Certainly it's not over for Rhymer being an

728
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:45,559
older veteran. I don't know that
it makes sense to bring them back.

729
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:50,199
The Sharks have like twenty seven prospect
goalies that they seem to be acquiring,

730
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,679
so maybe they'll give someone an opportunity. But what do you think, who

731
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,800
who think's going to be in a
tandem next year? What goalies are going

732
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,039
to be there aside from kachin In, and what can we expect from them?

733
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:04,440
Is it just going to be a
massive shelling on the goalies again?

734
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:08,480
Yeah, I think there's a good
chance of that that whoever goalie they bring

735
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:17,039
in is uh going to be under
siege every night. Um Er has has

736
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:22,039
said that he doesn't put on bringing
back the same goalie tandem, and Kachinin

737
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:25,199
is the only one who signed,
So you can do the math there that

738
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,480
probably they let Rhymer walk, even
though it is conceivable that they can,

739
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:35,199
you know, resigned Rhymer and trade
kachin In. But you know Capatin had

740
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,960
such a bad season last year that
you know who who would want him anyway,

741
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,800
So I think it's likely that they
give Captin you know, he's younger,

742
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,760
a little upside there, give him, give him a shot. Uh

743
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,599
don't know though who they would bring
in as a second goal if they do

744
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:52,199
let Rhymer walk, and uh man, you know, like it's gonna be

745
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,840
it's gonna be a tough, tough
sledding for for whoever whoever comes in,

746
00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:00,800
um because there's also, like said, a good chance that you're not gonna

747
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,199
have you know, Carlson may not
have been spectacular on the defensive end,

748
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,639
but you have a Carlson tilting the
ice for the offense at least, you

749
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:12,400
know, more than more than half
the time that that helps a goalie too,

750
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,519
and you're gonna be missing that and
so um, yeah, so it's

751
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:19,599
gonna be it's gonna be a tough
situation. It's got to be a goalie

752
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:23,400
that comes in, has a great
attitude and doesn't mind basing thirty five shots

753
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:29,920
at night. So do you think
any of their prospect goalies are close enough

754
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,960
to actually earn a Kandem spot?
No? I mean I'm not based on

755
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,480
what I saw last year. The
closest with making the EMI but making Amy

756
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,800
for the second straight season his season
and prematurely with an injury, you know,

757
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,320
knocking AMI's last game was in February. And you know, I'm totally

758
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,599
expect the full recovery, but you
know, I think there's a definite question

759
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:52,440
mark there. Um. You know, you can, you can play Aarondell

760
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:58,400
more games, that's fine, he's
a NHL competent goalie, but that you

761
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,639
want to see Aarondell for thirty or
games? Z out there? No,

762
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:05,360
I don't. I don't think he
is. And all the other prospects are

763
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,920
well, you know they're they're they're
definitely behind the mocking the emy and you

764
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,000
know, strous Nan I don't know
if he's coming back anyway. And you

765
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:17,119
have a couple of guys in Crona
and Romanov that they signed, but those

766
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:22,679
guys I've never played professionally and so
um yeah, so no, I'm not

767
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:28,639
really seeing anybody in there unless one
of these guys surprises in the fall,

768
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:31,159
which could happen of course, but
based on this past season, no,

769
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:35,840
none of those guys are close.
All right, Shang, Well, that

770
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,199
is a tour to force around the
San Jose Sharks. Appreciate all of your

771
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,760
insight on this team. Why don't
you let people know where they can continue

772
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,559
to follow your work and track how
those San Jose Sharks get through this offseason

773
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:54,400
in the coming season. Sure follow
me at Twitter at shang Underscore Pang,

774
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,519
and you can find all my work
at San Jose Hockey Now and NBC Sharks.

775
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,639
Awesome. Thanks so much for coming
on today's Shane. Yeah, thanks,

776
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:14,280
guys, Wolfson. That's good.
Buyers, pass up, Oh my

777
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:22,320
goodness, walk go with a cat
quick grab Now it's your weekly goalie talk

778
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:29,079
with Cats Silverman, Cat's instincts.
All right, we're pleased to welcome back

779
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:34,719
Cat Silverman for her Cat's instincts she's
from in Gold, maag And of course

780
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,639
we're talking San Jose prospect goalies,
and just a little preview of this,

781
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:44,159
uh, this prospect pool. I
feel like they have a lot of options,

782
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:45,519
and sometimes when you have a lot
of options like this, it's like

783
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:49,599
you have no option, almost like
maybe there are too many guys that are

784
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:52,639
just kind of okay and no one
rising to the top. Maybe you're gonna

785
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:53,800
tell me if I'm wrong about that. But the first guy I want to

786
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:59,280
start with is Mason bo Pete.
He's their twenty twenty two fourth round pick,

787
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,320
fairly old for the draft. He's
also huge, six foot five.

788
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:07,119
His numbers in the WHL don't look
amazing, but according to instad he basically

789
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:12,320
has been over his expected goals allowed
per game in the WHL. So even

790
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,639
though you look at his ROS stats
that basically tell you for the Spokane Chiefs

791
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:20,400
and when a Pig Ice he's been
a sub nine hundred goalie for the past

792
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:23,440
couple of years, that there's actually
a little bit more to that story and

793
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,760
he's perhaps been a little bit better
than that would suggest. The Hockey prospecting

794
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,840
model, which definitely gives a couple
of percentage point boost to Talera goalies has

795
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:37,400
him at a thirty seven percent chance
of being a NHL goalie, and his

796
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:42,880
compserve guys like Ricky phro See Mason. Also, Matt Murray kind of looks

797
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,480
a little bit like him in that
model, who was also pretty tall six

798
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:47,880
four. Of course, Murray has
had an up and down career, but

799
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:52,000
he was an NHL starter and still
is kind of he's not injured, but

800
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,719
he hasn't signed yet bo Pete,
but I think he might be their best

801
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,239
long term option. I don't know, what can you tell us about him,

802
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:06,000
kat So. I think that when
it comes to who the best long

803
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:09,000
term option is for San Jose,
that's kind of a kind of a loaded

804
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:15,599
question because I was looking through that
list and it's truly like a laundry list

805
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:22,199
of goaltenders, and it just looks
like there's a wild lack of preparedness by

806
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:25,239
San Jose for the future because they
have no one who looks ready now,

807
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,320
like no one looks ready for the
NHL right now, and they, I

808
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,960
would argue, have no one really
at the NHL level who's They have James

809
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,760
Rhymer, and he's year by year
it's hard to tell when he's going to

810
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:47,639
be ready to retire. I think
every one of their goalies, when looking

811
00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:54,679
at them in the system, is
among their prospects extremely tall. I think

812
00:57:54,679 --> 00:58:00,599
that that being their primary reason forgetting
guys is a massive red flag. So

813
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:04,239
I don't know how much credit I'm
willing to give them for any of their

814
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:12,039
picks, but I think that the
WHL is it's It's always hard to tell

815
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:16,360
with the Canadian Hockey League goaltenders in
general, because you can have a sub

816
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,360
nine hundred safe percentage and be one
of the best goalies in the league just

817
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:23,719
based on the team in front of
you. If all of the NHL ready

818
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:29,719
guys graduate out of the system and
you're stuck with almost like an inner like

819
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,239
a gap year roster in front of
you, and then the team that essentially

820
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,320
you play most often throughout the season
has most of the first round prospects on

821
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:44,400
their team. That makes it really
hard. And I think that the Winnipeg

822
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:52,679
Ice were not a primary landing spot
for a lot of those premiere nhlors.

823
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,800
But I didn't really see anything about
his game when I was watching film that

824
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:01,960
made me think, Wow, thank
goodness they drafted this guy, I think

825
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,199
it's it's going to be kind of
a wait and see. I appreciate that

826
00:59:06,239 --> 00:59:08,159
they have so many in their systems, so they have a ton to choose

827
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:14,880
from. I just was a little
underwhelmed by what they're giving us to choose

828
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:21,480
from, so to speak. Yep, that was a really great burn,

829
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:25,679
by the way, about how their
NHL goalies aren't ready either. I definitely

830
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:30,079
think that's accurate. The next guy
we're gonna talk about is actually not huge,

831
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:34,519
though, one of the few I
would say. You're right, though

832
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:37,320
in general it seems like they have
basically drafted or signed based on hype.

833
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:43,079
But strauss Man is not super tall. He's six feet. He was a

834
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:47,199
free agent signing. He was undrafted
of course because he's smaller, and in

835
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:52,000
they ended up signing him. He's
the twenty four to ten twenty five this

836
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:57,199
summer. He was really good at
Michigan. Then he went over to the

837
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,920
SHL last season with Celeftia and he
played in the Olympic Games in the World

838
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:07,119
Championships, so he has had some
international experience and then he had basically split

839
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:10,840
time between the HL and ECHL this
season that Barracouta team was pretty bad this

840
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,639
year, so I don't know that
that was necessarily all him, but his

841
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,360
number didn't look great. His hockey
prospecting has him graduating the model at a

842
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:27,519
thirty five percent chance of being a
NHLer, which isn't terrible guys like Eric

843
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:31,519
Comrie, Devin Dubnik, pop up
Curtis Joseph. So the question, I

844
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:35,760
guess I already asked you with bo
Pete, But is Strouss going to be

845
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:43,000
the man for the Sharks? Based
on so I like his game, I

846
01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:46,280
don't think he I think he still
needs some development. That's another team that

847
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:55,119
I think is probably going to see
some personnel shifting. But I don't know.

848
01:00:55,159 --> 01:00:59,199
I like his game, but based
on where they had him this year,

849
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:02,800
I don't know if they do.
He is six feet tall and he

850
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:08,800
split his time between the h and
the ECHL this year, which given what

851
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,519
they had to work with this year. I think that sometimes you see guys

852
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:17,000
where you know a team is just
so loaded. I think the Boston Bruins

853
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,320
were a good example of it four
or five years ago. They had so

854
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,320
many good goaltenders that they had some
of their prospects in the ECHL just because

855
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:29,719
they didn't have room for them.
I don't think that's the case with San

856
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,960
Jose though, so seeing them essentially
leave a guy in the ECHL for chunks

857
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:40,400
of the season isn't necessarily something that
I consider to be a promising sign.

858
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:47,039
In terms of what they like,
I don't know. I like the numbers

859
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:51,760
that he put up leading up to
the pros. Like you said, the

860
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,480
Barracuda were not a good team,
so it's kind of hard to tell.

861
01:01:57,559 --> 01:02:01,280
I'd like to see more for him, but I also know that they have

862
01:02:01,559 --> 01:02:07,360
loaded up their systems so much that
I almost wonder if he's I wonder what

863
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,199
they what they have in store for
him, just because I know that they

864
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:15,880
have some guys that they have signed
that I can see them pushing ahead of

865
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,519
him, even though I think from
a style perspective, I like his game

866
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,800
a little more than some of the
others. Yeah, that's fair. Shorter

867
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,840
goalis tend to have a little bit, you know, more in the technique

868
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,039
refinement because they have to um.
The next guy is Magnus Crona, and

869
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:38,360
Magnus was a really good choice by
his parents for him because he's huge six

870
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:44,599
six two fifteen twenty two year old
drafted by Tampa in twenty eighteen in the

871
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:49,440
fifth round. He was traded last
deadline deal. And he's been at University

872
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,880
of Denver for the last uh four. I mean he's been there all four

873
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,599
years and won a national title in
twenty twenty twenty one with that team,

874
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,079
and I know that was last season
twenty one in twenty two, he's basically

875
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:05,559
been their starter all four years,
although he played fewer games as a sophomore.

876
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,400
He as I mentioned, he's huge, and his equivalency has some kind

877
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,960
of in the thirties twenties. He
doesn't look like a lot of NHL rs,

878
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,800
frankly, but I'm really interested to
see what happens when he turns pro.

879
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,559
As you mentioned, there's kind of
a log jam. So where is

880
01:03:21,559 --> 01:03:23,760
he gonna play? Is he gonna
get HL time? That might be someone

881
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,840
might need to move here. But
what do you think about Magnus Crona and

882
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:37,119
his chances. He's an interesting one
because I liked when he was in San

883
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:43,320
Jose or in Tampa Bay system.
Rather, I watched a couple of development

884
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:51,599
camps where he was sort of tandeming
with a Hugo Alnifeldt and I had on

885
01:03:51,679 --> 01:03:55,920
there extremely tall, because they love
their tall goalies. I thought he looked

886
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,079
good in Denver. I think that's
a really hard team to evaluate just how

887
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:05,159
prepared he is for the pros though, because that's a really structured, regimented

888
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:14,519
team and it's really not easy to
look good there because there's still obviously plenty

889
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:20,400
of skill required. But that's a
team that gives him a lot of opportunity

890
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:26,840
to kind of like looking at a
looking at some of the guys that are

891
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,800
playing, like in Saint Petersburg for
Scott and you know, a goalie playing

892
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:36,960
for the London Nights, stuff like
that. It's it's a very good environment

893
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:44,280
for getting consistent numbers. I am
curious about where they're going to put him

894
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:49,079
because I do think that based on
just he's a bigger goalie who's a little

895
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:54,199
on the slower side at times,
I don't want to see him in the

896
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:59,039
NHL next year. I ideally don't
want to see him year after that either,

897
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:02,440
And I don't know where they're going
to put him. I really have

898
01:05:02,639 --> 01:05:06,320
no idea. They have a lot
of goaltenders who really need to be in

899
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,760
the AHL this year, and nobody
that should be in the NHL, and

900
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,679
I don't know where they're going to
put them all. I'm worried that he's

901
01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:15,960
one that since he played four years
of collegiate hockey, they're going to just

902
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:21,320
toss him into the NHL and see
what happens. But well, we'll see

903
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:26,840
how it goes. He seems very
unshakable watching him in games, like he'll

904
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:31,039
allow a bad goal and he kind
of goldfishes it away. He just also

905
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:35,559
sometimes doesn't seem like like he's got
that desperation element to his game. He

906
01:05:35,559 --> 01:05:42,119
doesn't have that extra gear that maybe
he hasn't been given as many opportunities to

907
01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:45,480
showcase it, just because Denver hasn't
really put him in a situation where he's

908
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,880
been hung out to drive very often. But I'm waiting to see what will

909
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:56,519
happen when he's playing behind some of
the rosters in the San Jose system,

910
01:05:56,559 --> 01:05:59,039
because I think regardless of where he
is in that system, we're going to

911
01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:03,239
see him hung out to drive once
or twice. Yeah, very fair.

912
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:08,679
Maybe they'll loan some of these goalies
to the Chicago Wolves of the HL since

913
01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:13,320
they don't have an affiliate. My
workout the next guy E two Mciniemie.

914
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,199
This is a guy that I've seen
most often in person, and I've gone

915
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,360
to the Barracouta games. He was
drafted by Carolina in the fourth round twenty

916
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:24,119
seventeen. He's sixty three one seventy
six, so maybe not quite as huge

917
01:06:24,119 --> 01:06:29,119
as Corona, but still big.
Came over in the Burns deal. He's

918
01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:30,960
now twenty three year old. Developed
in Finland, but he's been in North

919
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,719
America the last two seasons. He
played for the Wolves. Funny I mentioned

920
01:06:35,719 --> 01:06:40,320
that for in twenty one, twenty
two and this season for the not so

921
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,760
great Baracouta. But his expected goals
per goal conceded if you look at the

922
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,000
last several years one point two one, one point four eight, one point

923
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,280
through seven, one point six seven
the last two there went back to his

924
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:55,920
league days. He's been awesome basically
than the underlying numbers. I'm not really

925
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,719
sure why, but his hockey prospecting
has a really low percentage. Basically all

926
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,159
the comps are busts for him,
and so that doesn't that doesn't bode right.

927
01:07:04,199 --> 01:07:08,880
Well, I couldn't find any of
them that were actually legitimate that The

928
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:15,239
best one was probably some guy named
Anti Jokola who was a bust so anyways,

929
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,920
Mciniami is a is a very dark
course. I would say to maybe

930
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:24,719
be one bye or something like that
in the near future. But what can

931
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:30,960
you tell us about him? That's
really funny because so I got to watch

932
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:34,400
him a little bit when he was
playing for Elives over in Finland because he

933
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,880
was actually on the same team as
another prospect who has been playing in California

934
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,840
recently, Lucas Dostall, who's in
the Ducks system. I don't think that

935
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,239
he was the better goaltender of the
two, but he was the goaltender that

936
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:53,000
had been in that system for longer, and I thought that was a that

937
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:57,840
was a fun system to watch because
some of the Finnish goaltenders get a little

938
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,760
aggressive with their prior I marry positioning. You know, they like to essentially

939
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,559
stand skates right out of the blue
paint, can wait for the puck to

940
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:12,320
come towards them, then start retreating
into their post, sort of leaving themselves

941
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,359
a little bit hamstrung if there's a
lot of cross ice movement in front of

942
01:08:15,399 --> 01:08:20,960
them. And I didn't really see
that from him. A lot of the

943
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,600
guys that are in that system,
like Dostyle, did a good job of

944
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:29,079
it too, played just a little
bit more conservatively, just from the get

945
01:08:29,079 --> 01:08:31,720
go, they stay a little bit
closer to the actual goal line itself.

946
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,640
They start from the inside and hinge
out as they go, so essentially starting

947
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,800
from the central location, giving themselves
more room to move without having to recover

948
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:48,760
across the crease. I don't know
if, once again, I don't know

949
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,760
where he's going to be this year, because I don't know how they're going

950
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:59,720
to have room for him and Magnus
Corona and Shaussman. I don't know,

951
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:05,960
one of them has to go somewhere. Um. But I mean he he

952
01:09:06,079 --> 01:09:13,560
was the most statistically successful goaltender on
the Barracuda last year, which is a

953
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,880
really low bar because they had him, they had Aaron Dell, and they

954
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:23,079
had strauss Man, which oh my
god, Um, that's a that's a

955
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:30,920
roster right there. Um. But
I don't know. I I think he's

956
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,560
he's good. I don't think he's
anything spectacular. I don't necessarily see him

957
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:41,720
as this guy's the future of their
team. But maybe maybe they have him

958
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,439
there as you know, insurance for
for the HL. Seeing the way that

959
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,399
he's performed, um makes me all
the more worried that Magnus Crona is going

960
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:56,439
to start in the NHL um just
because I don't see anything about his game

961
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,840
that suggests that he's like NHL already
right now. But he's a good stop

962
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,600
gap to have at the HL level, they just don't need a stopgap.

963
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:10,000
So I don't know. I don't
know what he's doing there. Yeah,

964
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:13,760
and my opinion doesn't mean much.
But from the games that I watched,

965
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,920
because it's the team closest to me, mcnamy definitely looked like the best goalie

966
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,479
on a really bad team. The
goals that he let in were like two

967
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,479
on one, three on two,
three on ones, you know, and

968
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,199
he'd stop most of those and let
a couple in, and it's like,

969
01:10:29,239 --> 01:10:31,399
well, at some point he just
you know, what are you gonna do?

970
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,880
So I definitely think yeah, But
again, I don't know that he's

971
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,760
amazing either. That was fun.
I got to watch him and Dostall in

972
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,720
a game against each other that I'm
so jealousy. It was a good time.

973
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,600
It's a good time. Anyways,
Let's move on to the next guy.

974
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,359
Benjamin Goodrow Sharks twenty twenty one,
third round, pick six, two

975
01:10:49,359 --> 01:10:54,159
one seventy four. Also again not
huge, but definitely you know, decent

976
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:58,239
size. He was once considered the
top goalie prospect for the Sharks, and

977
01:10:58,399 --> 01:11:00,399
I don't know if he still is. I mean, he's a the bottom

978
01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:02,800
of my list here. Maybe you'll
tell me that's wrong, but he is

979
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,600
doing quite well for the Sarnia Sting
right now in the OHL playoffs. And

980
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:11,800
even though when you look at Ben
Goodrow's numbers they look pretty awful for Sarnia,

981
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,840
I mean eight ninety ones day percentage
last season, eight eighty nine.

982
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,439
This season, he went to the
World Juniors. Everyone thought it was going

983
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,399
to be his team to lead Canada
gold and he just kind of flopped and

984
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,880
well, he still got a gold
medal, but he didn't really do much

985
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:29,399
to earn it himself, unfortunately.
But I will say that his expected goals

986
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:31,439
for goal conceded numbers and Sarnia are
good. So maybe it's one of these

987
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,760
things you were talking about how it
was just hard to evaluate on the team

988
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:41,600
he plays for, which is not
so good. His hockey prospecting percent chance

989
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,199
of being an NHLer is another one
of these that's just awful, Like there's

990
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:48,279
really no there's no one statistically that
looks like him who was a strong NHLer.

991
01:11:49,239 --> 01:11:53,800
So maybe he just needs better team
and structure in front of him.

992
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,399
I mean, this is again one
of those things where his birthday kind of

993
01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:02,720
worked against him because he was just
a couple of weeks too too young to

994
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,760
be able to be in the h
L. I don't know that was the

995
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:09,479
right place for him. But he
will finally get to play some HL or

996
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:14,560
perhaps EHL games this season. But
what have you thought of his progression and

997
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,279
is he still like a viable top
prospect? That was that was such a

998
01:12:19,279 --> 01:12:25,880
weird one, um I remember,
so he was considered one of the top

999
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,800
prospects his draft year just across the
board. That so he ended up a

1000
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:36,479
third round pick. Um that had
twenty twenty one draft was absolutely awful for

1001
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:43,479
goaltenders because any goaltenders playing for the
IVS had no season. Any goaltenders playing

1002
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,720
for the OHL had no season,
and that was him. Any goaltenders playing

1003
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:51,399
in the QMJHL had a half season, in the WAHL had a half season,

1004
01:12:53,079 --> 01:12:57,279
and then you had a bunch of
guys playing in the USAHL who essentially

1005
01:12:57,319 --> 01:13:00,359
guys who played for the IPS or
we're going to be moving on to other

1006
01:13:00,399 --> 01:13:04,880
teams, bumped back to the USHL
because they had nowhere to play that year.

1007
01:13:05,239 --> 01:13:12,079
Um, so Benjamin Goodreau had an
entirely lost season that was essentially his

1008
01:13:12,199 --> 01:13:17,000
draft year. I think he's looked
fine. I don't think he's looked like

1009
01:13:17,039 --> 01:13:26,520
anything really exciting. I I know
it sounds a little a little shocking,

1010
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,840
but I think that not having him
as the main starter at the World Juniors

1011
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,520
was the right move, um for
a team Canada. Thomas Militch, who

1012
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:41,000
was the goaltender that ended up sort
of usurping him on the way to that

1013
01:13:41,079 --> 01:13:45,520
gold medal. That's who That's who
I had wanted to see, and that's

1014
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:51,039
an undrafted goaltender he managed to get
overlooked entirely last year, which was he's

1015
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:55,720
a shorter goaltender. I believe he's
listening. Yeah, he's listed at six

1016
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,439
feet one seventy four. I think
he's probably a little shorter than that.

1017
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:03,520
Um, I don't know. Benjamin
Goodreau in theory, meets a couple years

1018
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:09,079
of HL time. To me,
he kind of reminds me of like a

1019
01:14:09,079 --> 01:14:15,000
almost like an Aiden Hill, a
guy who needs plenty of time at the

1020
01:14:15,079 --> 01:14:18,520
minor league level before making it to
the NHL. But like we said,

1021
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,039
every guy that we've talked about so
far, we've talked about how they're they're

1022
01:14:23,079 --> 01:14:26,359
headed for the San Jose Barracouta next
year, and either they're going to have

1023
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,840
each goaltender played once a week,
which is an awful way to develop your

1024
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,079
goaltenders, or they're gonna loan people
out, or they're going to trade someone.

1025
01:14:36,199 --> 01:14:39,960
I don't know, he could,
he could maybe get something done in

1026
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:45,920
the ECHL. I don't think that's
necessarily confidence inspiring for the guy that you

1027
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,319
claim to be. Is your task
for a guy that essentially is supposed to

1028
01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:55,800
be the top prospect, But nothing
I've seen from him so far has made

1029
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,880
me think that he needs to sort
of jump ahead of Magnus Our, Straussmann,

1030
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,520
per se. But none of them
I necessarily see is the air apparent.

1031
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:10,840
That's that's a team that desperately needs. They've needed an air apparent since

1032
01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:17,560
since Martin Jones's fall and have not
provided themselves with one. So maybe maybe

1033
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:24,239
that will be incentive for Goodrow to
sort of establish some consistency at the pro

1034
01:15:24,359 --> 01:15:31,279
level. But nothing I've seen so
far indicates that he's really anything to write

1035
01:15:31,279 --> 01:15:39,079
home about. Yet he's still got
some work. Yeah, this whole system

1036
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:42,960
needs some work. But thanks for
the insights on the Sharks goalies. That

1037
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:46,960
definitely nothing super inspiring coming there,
but a lot of wait and see And

1038
01:15:47,119 --> 01:15:50,439
apparently the job playing goalie for the
KUDA is going to be one of the

1039
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:57,079
most sought after, so to see
how that works out. We'll be back

1040
01:15:57,279 --> 01:16:15,880
right after this. Do you the
Dynasty day dick in eight into the San

1041
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,279
Jose Sharks. Here's the deal.
The San Jose Sharks, as you heard

1042
01:16:19,359 --> 01:16:23,479
earlier on this show, made a
few deals this year. They came up

1043
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,439
with an extra first round pick from
the New Jersey Devils. They also have

1044
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,079
an additional three to four additional picks
kind of depends on some choices other teams

1045
01:16:31,119 --> 01:16:35,760
have to make between rounds four to
seven. And the Fantasy Hockey Life ranking

1046
01:16:36,039 --> 01:16:43,199
that Victor puts based on their top
ten prospects is twelfth in the National Hockey

1047
01:16:43,239 --> 01:16:46,199
League. So Victor, the state
of this system and the state of it's

1048
01:16:46,279 --> 01:16:50,039
no brainer. Who even my brain
doesn't need to be a brain to know

1049
01:16:50,079 --> 01:16:55,600
who the no brainer is. Who's
it going to be? Yeah, no

1050
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,239
brainer is William klnd and yeah.
The system. Yeah, okay, it's

1051
01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:02,239
got a a lot of pretty decent
depth, I would say, but some

1052
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:06,720
of the elite talent at the top
isn't maybe quite as elite, and so

1053
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:12,119
that's part of the issue. But
there's some really good there's some really decent

1054
01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:15,840
mid the deep gems in here,
I would say. The first guy though,

1055
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,760
of course, eck Lend. You
know, he's someone we've been pretty

1056
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:24,119
excited about for a while. Some
of us me thought that he would be

1057
01:17:24,119 --> 01:17:27,560
on the Sharks most of the season
and that didn't happen. But I think

1058
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,399
it was kind of smart of the
Sharks to let him, you know,

1059
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,399
really dominate and get his confidence back
in the HL. Remember he had he

1060
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:39,800
had a couple of seasons after his
draft season just not super amazing production in

1061
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,960
the SHL, then coming over here
and kind of being back and forth between

1062
01:17:44,199 --> 01:17:46,000
leagues. So it was good to
leave him down there most of the time.

1063
01:17:46,039 --> 01:17:49,359
Forty one points in fifty four games
for a Barracouta team, which was

1064
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:54,920
really not very good. I watched
a few Baracouta games and they were just

1065
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,600
bad most of the time. And
when Ecklen and Bordelau were not on the

1066
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:05,079
ice. They were just getting throttled
and you'd see multiple I can't one of

1067
01:18:05,079 --> 01:18:09,319
the games I went to, I
think they had six odd man rushes against

1068
01:18:09,319 --> 01:18:14,520
that almost all ended up in goals. And it's pretty hard to try to

1069
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,920
generate offense when you're just getting caved
in like that. Eklin also had three

1070
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,920
points in the eight HL games,
and Shank kind of mentioned that he looked

1071
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,960
really good when he was there.
I totally agree. He looked confident,

1072
01:18:25,039 --> 01:18:28,840
he looked, you know, dangerous
offensively, two way, responsible, just

1073
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,279
to really good all around forward.
And of course a lot of us are

1074
01:18:31,279 --> 01:18:35,359
wondering where he'll be next year.
I imagine he'll be in the NHL,

1075
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:40,159
but we'll see. And for a
little bit more on what to expect from

1076
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:45,560
Eklen, let's hear from our FHL
Scott Brandon skating smooth, efficient with a

1077
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,159
deceptively high motor puck handling. Besides
his own entries, he doesn't keep the

1078
01:18:49,159 --> 01:18:53,920
puck on his stick very long.
He's letting the puck do the work through

1079
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:58,880
passes. Very capable with some high
skilled deeks playmaking, and utilizes backhand passes

1080
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:03,600
when at least expecting. Brandon says
Ecklin's shot is a lethal one timer,

1081
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:08,359
crisp release without a lot of wind
up. I would add that I really

1082
01:19:08,399 --> 01:19:12,720
wish he's shot more often. He's
usually clocking it a couple of shots per

1083
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,319
game. Part of that might have
been the bad team, but he has

1084
01:19:15,319 --> 01:19:21,039
a great shot and should use it
more. Eklen's IQ is the avant garde

1085
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:26,119
went on defense, very creative,
very innovative, constantly looking for and sensing

1086
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:30,920
options the shift to the shift and
the play makes passes and the seams that

1087
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:35,279
he knows are developing. He finds
the seams, he creates them, Calm

1088
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:40,279
under pressure and able to find a
creative outfit outlet. Defensively, he uses

1089
01:19:40,319 --> 01:19:44,479
his efficient skating and timing of his
active stip to be pesky threat to the

1090
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,560
opposing team and trying to set up
a breakout. Best asset is his shark

1091
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,479
like motor that is tied to the
cerebral side of his game. It's what

1092
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:58,039
opens up chances for him and thwarts
opponents. Biggest concern is pro durability for

1093
01:19:58,159 --> 01:20:00,720
Brandon. He's still only five ten
eklyn and one hundred and eighty pounds,

1094
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,600
was still on the smallish side and
might might get a little beat up.

1095
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:11,479
Top tier potential definitely has the potential
to be a four to forty forty guy.

1096
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,359
So forty goals, forty assis,
eighty points, nearly point per game,

1097
01:20:15,399 --> 01:20:20,680
all situations player, powerplay guy,
sharpshooter heavily would heavily benefit from playing

1098
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:26,560
with a gravitational centerment, someone who
will bring attention to him and away from

1099
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,119
Ekland. Most likely tier might be
more of like a fifty point guy fifteen

1100
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:33,199
goals, thirty five points, something
like that, special teams deployment, second

1101
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:38,920
line complementary player with the fair amount
of shots, but not much in the

1102
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:44,039
way it hits or blocks. Stylist
a comparable Brandon says a cross between Nikolai

1103
01:20:44,079 --> 01:20:46,239
Eelers and Jordan Everley. Well,
that sounds pretty fun, doesn't it.

1104
01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:53,680
Looking at some of his data from
Don Lucision, he had some really good

1105
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:59,000
offensive metrics, but he just really
didn't have enough of opportunity to fill out

1106
01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:02,560
much else. But he still looks
like a solid player. We're gonna move

1107
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:08,920
into our comp section, so thanks
to NHL rank King Mason Black for pumping

1108
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:14,119
these out. So we have William
Eckland versus Marco Rossi. This is gonna

1109
01:21:14,119 --> 01:21:18,399
be a fun one, both highly
touted prospects. Rossi drafted ninth overall in

1110
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:23,640
twenty twenty by the Wild Ecklin twenty
twenty one seventh overall. So this year

1111
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:29,800
in the Barracuda, Ecklin's equivalency was
a fifty seven p NHL and for Marco

1112
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,920
Rossi, the pH elee was fifty
eight, So fifty seven fifty eight pretty

1113
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:39,239
similar. Rossi had fifty points in
fifty one HL games. I think the

1114
01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:43,840
equivalency is just slightly lower because he's
one year older than Eklin, but pretty

1115
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:50,800
similar. And the polls actually went
William Eclin's way. We had a couple

1116
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:57,920
hundred votes and we went It went
fifty four percent to William Eclin and forty

1117
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,319
six percent to Marco ross See,
Jesse, what do you think about this?

1118
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:06,279
I think I'd side with that.
I'll take William Eklund in this deal.

1119
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,359
I did a fun thing, Victor, just just for fun, and

1120
01:22:10,359 --> 01:22:13,479
I won't do the read the whole
thing. But I typed into Google bar

1121
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,279
this morning Who's going to be better
William Eklund or Marco Rossi? And it

1122
01:22:16,319 --> 01:22:20,079
came out with a whole scouting report
for you. So I'm sure it.

1123
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:25,000
Sometimes these things are completely made up, but it's kind of fun. You

1124
01:22:25,039 --> 01:22:28,000
can you can look at there,
and it didn't come out to a definitive

1125
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,039
decision on it. But liked both
of the players, but Eklund. I

1126
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:39,199
like the I like the winger possibility
there that I think we'll get some out

1127
01:22:39,239 --> 01:22:45,760
of Eklund. I like the fact
that he's a year younger. He's been

1128
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,960
in the NHL a little bit less
than Rossi, but he's kind of,

1129
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:54,560
uh, you know, he's kind
of Rossi's had a rough time. He's

1130
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,720
had a much rougher time in terms
of scoring in the NHL than even Eklund

1131
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,399
has. So I think he's to
a little bit of a hotter start,

1132
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:05,199
even though Rossi has outproduced him in
the HL. So I don't know.

1133
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:11,079
Sometimes when you have seen less of
them than the NHL and they've produced more,

1134
01:23:11,279 --> 01:23:13,760
I mean, I guess you sort
of have to take that as evidence

1135
01:23:14,319 --> 01:23:18,640
that they are off to a quicker
start. So it's not a huge difference.

1136
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:23,079
I think Rossi is by low right
now, to be honest, but

1137
01:23:23,279 --> 01:23:26,479
Eklund is still a guy I would
like more than him. How about your

1138
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,439
victor. I think both these guys
are probably a little low. I think

1139
01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:33,760
gms are fantasy. Gms are a
little frustrated with how long it has taken

1140
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,479
them to get to prominence, and
I think you can capitalize on that.

1141
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,479
This is really hard for me because
I still really believe in the upside of

1142
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,199
Marco Rossi and he has been incredible
in the HL over the last couple of

1143
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:51,399
years. It's a little frustrating that
he hasn't broken in as much, and

1144
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,119
I think to some extent, there's
a really good reason for that, and

1145
01:23:55,159 --> 01:23:58,960
that's because the Wild are a much
better team and so they are pushing,

1146
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:03,399
you know, for to win every
night for playoffs, and the Sharks don't

1147
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,520
really have that. It's a little
bit frustrating that they kept him in the

1148
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,800
HL rather than let him, you
know, kind of learn more with the

1149
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,479
with the big club. And Rossi
has been pretty close to a point per

1150
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,560
game in both of his seasons in
the HL, so I think there's a

1151
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,439
little bit more peer upside there,
though I do think, as you mentioned,

1152
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,840
it might be a little safer with
Eklen being a winger. I think

1153
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,800
his positionality is a little bit more
flexible. I'm sure Rossi could play wing,

1154
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,520
but he really is more of a
true Centerman in my opinion. So

1155
01:24:35,399 --> 01:24:39,159
this is hard Jesse, but I
think I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Marco

1156
01:24:39,279 --> 01:24:43,640
ROSSI. I just believe in his
peer upside more. And what the heck

1157
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,319
is Google Bard I don't know what
that is. That's it's like chat GPT.

1158
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,880
It's another one of those AI things. You just go into Google and

1159
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,720
you type bard and you go in
there and it's AI. It reads the

1160
01:24:53,920 --> 01:25:00,000
entire Internet and generates this for you. Victor, I'm living in the future,

1161
01:25:00,279 --> 01:25:04,319
man. You can now get simple, simple summaries of things, sometimes

1162
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:09,439
wildly inaccurate by doing that, but
it's a lot of fun, Victor.

1163
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,520
The next guy is He's been mentioned
so many times on the show. You've

1164
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,159
generated so many wonderful nicknames for your
need to know prospect. Maybe his new

1165
01:25:17,279 --> 01:25:21,119
nickname should be by him Low.
Who is the need to know prospect?

1166
01:25:21,239 --> 01:25:29,119
Victor Thomas Bortolow. Like Eckland,
we thought he might get some NHL time,

1167
01:25:29,119 --> 01:25:30,319
but he was a little bit more
in need, I would say,

1168
01:25:30,399 --> 01:25:35,520
not having played against professional competition.
He was with the NCAA until last season.

1169
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,199
He did a good a couple of
Kuda and Sharks games last year,

1170
01:25:39,239 --> 01:25:42,880
but he really needed that full year
of development. He was asked to do

1171
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,560
a lot on this poor Baracuta team, but he was able to keep his

1172
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:50,399
head just barely above water. Fifty
percent of corsi as a rookie in the

1173
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:57,239
HL really not bad. Forty one
points in sixty five games again while having

1174
01:25:57,279 --> 01:26:01,119
to do a lot of defensive work
and getting getting a lot of strong competition

1175
01:26:01,159 --> 01:26:05,079
against two points in eight games.
And the NHL was nice too. And

1176
01:26:05,279 --> 01:26:09,399
for a little bit more on Bordeloau, let's hear from our FHL scout Nate

1177
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,680
and so skating for Bordelo, Nate
says, very smooth skater, uses his

1178
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:18,279
edges well to gain body position down
low and in the corners. He also

1179
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:23,640
was very impressed by the fact that
he was able to match up against other

1180
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:29,439
teams top lines. His game against
Connor McDavid was very impressive. It's it's

1181
01:26:30,399 --> 01:26:34,479
a little interesting to hear what Shank
said about the poor defensive effort because that's

1182
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:39,199
a little bit contradicted by what I've
seen and what Nate says. Here we'll

1183
01:26:39,239 --> 01:26:45,359
get to that puck handling for Bordelo
elite, elite level hands and playmaking.

1184
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:47,119
Surprise that he didn't put up more
assists in the HL, but that was

1185
01:26:47,359 --> 01:26:51,520
probably because of the linemates, and
I definitely agree with that those numbers should

1186
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:57,439
improve with better, better linemates.
And there were sometimes in the HL where

1187
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,359
he would attack defenders and they would
have no answer for his puck control.

1188
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,520
So we'll interesting to see what happens
next. The shot for Bordelo above average

1189
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:08,760
close to putting a lead tag on
him, but he needs to use it

1190
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,520
a little bit more, and when
he gets the opportunity that he can really

1191
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,680
rip it, but sometimes he defers
to his teammates and passes. He's definitely

1192
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,439
more of a playmaker than a shooter, and if he starts using a shot

1193
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,720
a bit more to adapting to scoring
on HL goalies, he can turn this

1194
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,840
into a real weapon. Some of
the viewings in the HL, the shot

1195
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:30,920
would really explode off his stick.
So for IQ, for Bordelo above average,

1196
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,439
defensive, IQ jumped out immediately to
him. He's always below the puck,

1197
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:38,000
always in the right position to make
a good play. Panic meter at

1198
01:27:38,039 --> 01:27:41,560
the NHL was a little bit concerning
him maybe rushing the play a little bit,

1199
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,840
but that's probably not a long time
concern, considering he figured that out

1200
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,359
pretty quickly at the HL level.
He thinks the Sharks could put a bit

1201
01:27:49,399 --> 01:27:55,199
of a better positional strategy on him
to succeed in terms of stepping up in

1202
01:27:55,199 --> 01:28:00,600
these situations. Defense above average always
seems like a stick is in the proper

1203
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,760
position and the defensive zone, stays
below the puck and doesn't cheat, not

1204
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,279
afraid to get in the shot lane
and block shots. So see, this

1205
01:28:05,359 --> 01:28:10,079
is different from what Shang said,
and this is what I've observed as an

1206
01:28:10,079 --> 01:28:13,239
asside on borderlow two. I do
think he's a strong two way center.

1207
01:28:13,279 --> 01:28:16,399
I don't think that he necessarily cheats
for offense. Maybe some of the maybe

1208
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:20,760
some of the games that we had
our viewing Ze and Eate and I maybe

1209
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:26,479
he was being more responsible because of
something the coach said, But I've always

1210
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,640
seen that in him. He is
a more offensive leaning player, but generally

1211
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:34,920
defensive responsible. Anyways, back to
the report, best asset for Bordolo and

1212
01:28:35,079 --> 01:28:40,359
lead hands and playmaking. Biggest concern
in a small sample sized this season,

1213
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,479
Nate saw him being too defensively responsible
at the NHL level, which muted his

1214
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,039
offensive potential, and he really needs
to be more willing to take risks like

1215
01:28:47,119 --> 01:28:51,319
he does in the AHL. Not
a huge concern, but should continue to

1216
01:28:51,359 --> 01:28:56,560
improve. Top tier potential first line
center if he can open up his offensive

1217
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,000
talent and most likely tier and middle
sixth forward who will be a good complement

1218
01:29:00,079 --> 01:29:03,520
nary player, but not maybe the
guy generating sixty five seventy five points a

1219
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:09,960
year, being defensively responsible middle sixth
forward who can earn power play time and

1220
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:14,840
increase his fantasy value realistic comparable.
He agrees that in the past people have

1221
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,840
talked about him versus Ryan ju J
Hopkins, and he sees that as a

1222
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:23,600
as a pretty good comp especially considering
he could anchor first line, but he's

1223
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:28,000
much better suited to being a really
good second line center, though he wouldn't

1224
01:29:28,079 --> 01:29:30,760
rule out being an offensive star someday. Like Ryan nu Jen, Hopkins has

1225
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:36,359
sort of exploded this year. So
thanks Ryan, Thanks Nate for that report.

1226
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:41,800
Let's move on to the comps with
NHL rank king. We have Thomas

1227
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:47,640
Bortolow versus Brennan Othman and so we
have Bordelow with his forty one phl E

1228
01:29:48,079 --> 01:29:53,760
at the HL level this year so
not super high, and Othman with the

1229
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:58,199
Peterborough repeats he had a thirty five
p and actually in the Firewood Flints before

1230
01:29:58,239 --> 01:30:01,479
that fifty p h Lly. And
if you look at hockey prospecting, it

1231
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:08,079
is definitely in favor of Bordelow.
It's he still has about a seven percent

1232
01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:11,520
chance of being a star, sixty
eight percent chance of being a Nacheller Authman,

1233
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,479
down to just one percent chance of
being a star, and thirty two

1234
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,920
percent it's a chance of being an
Eachellar. So very you know, Bordolo

1235
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,319
has almost doubled the odds of even
being an nhlor and I would say he's

1236
01:30:21,359 --> 01:30:27,319
for sure an NHL quality player Authman, I think the jury is still very

1237
01:30:27,359 --> 01:30:30,960
much out on that. Looking at
Bordolo two, he in terms of the

1238
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,520
comps that he just generally looks like
in hockey prospecting, he looks very much

1239
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:38,640
like Alex new Hook. I would
say new Hook maybe not the most exciting

1240
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,159
player, definitely an Nheller, but
sort of a you know, middling or

1241
01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:45,119
math fantasy asset. He also looks
a little bit like Anthony Manta at least

1242
01:30:45,159 --> 01:30:48,520
points wise, which would at least
be more exciting from a fantasy perspective.

1243
01:30:49,319 --> 01:30:55,520
Looking at the poll though, the
people very handily gave this, or maybe

1244
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,439
not very handily, but fairly handily
gave this to Brennan Authman fifty six percent

1245
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:03,279
for Athman and only for Bordelo.
So who you got on this one,

1246
01:31:03,359 --> 01:31:09,439
Jesse, You're going with the people
and take an Othman. I've been back

1247
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:13,239
and forth on the fence with this. I know one thing that you have

1248
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,720
turned up is that Bordelo is or
Athman's a little bit better for bash which

1249
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:25,039
is something I certainly like to see
in my prospects. Othman's a little bit

1250
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,560
earlier in the funnel, a full
year younger, and he's still up in

1251
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:33,840
the OHL rather than NCA and the
HL. Kind of a tougher crucible for

1252
01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:39,840
Bordelo to have gone through. And
frankly, the NHL Bordelo has already gone

1253
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:44,760
too. I think right now I
probably am going to go Bordelo, because

1254
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,960
even though Athman really has I guess
he's got my attention. He really blew

1255
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:53,399
away the OHL this year, and
I think that he will be a guy

1256
01:31:53,399 --> 01:31:59,399
who makes the NHL. Bordelo's probably
got a stronger case for staying there.

1257
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,159
And yeah, I think I'll take
Bordelou at this point, Victor, and

1258
01:32:02,239 --> 01:32:08,159
not just for the puns. He
is more than just a good pun generator.

1259
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:13,079
Yeah, and absolutely I don't really
see this one as being that close.

1260
01:32:13,159 --> 01:32:17,520
Frankly, I would take Borlow in
a heartbeat, mainly because he's like

1261
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:23,079
pretty guaranteed to play NHL games very
soon. Authman, Yeah, the jury

1262
01:32:23,119 --> 01:32:25,880
is still very out. I would
say, like, I think he might

1263
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,359
end up just being a fourth line
banger, like a tweeter kind of guy.

1264
01:32:29,399 --> 01:32:32,880
I'm just I'm not convinced that he's
a for sure, for sure NHLA

1265
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,079
and that's someone that's a little bit
risky in my opinion to invest in.

1266
01:32:36,159 --> 01:32:40,600
As you mentioned, Authman on my
sheet rates out as a lead for bash,

1267
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,840
so you know, if you if
you like that, but that's really

1268
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,159
only super helpful if the offense translates. As you've pointed out many times,

1269
01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:51,239
you can always go go get a
fourth line banger and and fill in those

1270
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:57,000
stats if he hasn't also providing points, and so that's really the question mark

1271
01:32:57,039 --> 01:33:01,000
there. And also just a reminder
that Bordelow is going to be borderline elite

1272
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:06,399
for faceoff wins, So if you
track faceoff wins. You definitely want Borderlow

1273
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:10,560
in your league. And I shall
also mention that I have on my prospect

1274
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,640
ranking sheet. I actually had to
update this yesterday because he was a little

1275
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,960
bit lower, but I moved Bordlow
up to thirty three and Offman at fifty

1276
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,359
one, So it was a bit
of a discrepancy there, I would say,

1277
01:33:19,359 --> 01:33:25,680
And in my mind, third up
Victor, you have your keep your

1278
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,640
eye on prospect. Who is it? Yeah, we talked about this guy

1279
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:34,000
a little bit with Shang and that's
Henry Throun. Thron had a pretty stellar

1280
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:38,920
season at Harvard, nearly a point
per game, similar to last season.

1281
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,279
And in case people are wondering,
he's six foot two, left handed.

1282
01:33:43,319 --> 01:33:46,479
D's twenty two years old. When
it was announced that he wouldn't sign with

1283
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,800
the Ducks, the Sharks swooped in
and traded a third ride pick for his

1284
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,520
rights. I was fairly convinced that
they were going to sign him where they

1285
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,960
wouldn't have made that investment, and
sure enough they did. He suited up

1286
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,279
for eight NHL games, had a
couple assists. I imagine he's in the

1287
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,840
NHL next season, but he could
easily win a spot in camps as Shang

1288
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:13,039
kind of alluded to, his tracking
data through Mitch Brown's system had him at

1289
01:34:13,079 --> 01:34:18,000
an eady overall, really good at
creating dangerous passes in the slot, pretty

1290
01:34:18,119 --> 01:34:28,119
good at transition zone entries, creating
entries, cross lane entries, pretty good

1291
01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:31,520
defensively to preventing entries, and good
in the defensive zone, and some other

1292
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:38,439
miscellaneous stats. So pretty much everything
was positive except some of his Some of

1293
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,640
his slot passes had a little bit
lower success rate, but he was trying

1294
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,800
really dangerous passes. In terms of
the scouting report, we have Jamison submitting

1295
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:50,960
this report average skating for Thron.
His skating mechanics are awkward at times,

1296
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:55,039
but his skating is sufficient to keep
up the play. We did mention Shang

1297
01:34:55,079 --> 01:34:57,680
mentioned that that was a bit of
an issue for him. Puck handling for

1298
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,319
Thron is as effective as a handler
in a puck mover. This is an

1299
01:35:00,319 --> 01:35:03,279
area where he shines. When the
puck is on his stick. He's good

1300
01:35:03,279 --> 01:35:08,000
at protecting the puck and quickly moving
up ice. Thron can get pucks on

1301
01:35:08,079 --> 01:35:12,479
net pretty well from the point and
from Jamison's viewings. He doesn't have a

1302
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,239
big bomb shot, but it is
accurate and He's good at getting pucks on

1303
01:35:15,319 --> 01:35:17,880
net and creating scoring chances that way. He didn't have any significant scoring chances

1304
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,000
in any of these games, but
he isn't effective. He's more effective as

1305
01:35:21,039 --> 01:35:26,560
a distributor than a shooter. Iq
Thrown is a smart player with good vision,

1306
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,319
which shines mostly on the offensive side
of things. On defenses, anticipation

1307
01:35:30,399 --> 01:35:34,600
can be a bit slow and reactive. Defensively, he asserts himself physically and

1308
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:39,399
he's engaged. His tendency is to
be reactive rather than proactive sometimes, but

1309
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:43,359
that puts him a little bit back. He makes questionable decisions at times,

1310
01:35:43,359 --> 01:35:45,920
and coverage and his d zone maybe
gets a bit burned. This might have

1311
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,279
been a little bit because he's playing
at a higher level than in the NCAA.

1312
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:54,920
The biggest asset. Throun is a
strong puck mover and great at holding

1313
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:58,520
the blue line in the offensive zone. The biggest concern is the decision making

1314
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:02,119
at times, prone to make prone
to being more reactive defender than proactive,

1315
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:06,119
and consistency can be an issue.
Top tier potential can't see him scraping the

1316
01:36:06,119 --> 01:36:10,520
top tier threshold, but he likely
tops out as a top four guy.

1317
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:14,319
Shang Als will mention that assists and
blocks could be significant if he grabs a

1318
01:36:14,319 --> 01:36:17,520
big role and progresses in some of
the weaker areas. Not a huge shooter

1319
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:20,600
or a major hitter, though,
so that might hold him back a little

1320
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:26,319
bit. Other more likely tier tier
two. If he doesn't progress much pass

1321
01:36:26,359 --> 01:36:30,439
his current state, he'll be a
modest producer with average to slightly about of

1322
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:34,720
average. Bash stylist a comparable he
lists as olimata, so decent, someone

1323
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:40,520
interesting, but not super super exciting. Let's move on to our comps.

1324
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:46,239
So we have Henry Thron versus Dominic
Fensori. So Thron fifty five PHL based

1325
01:36:46,279 --> 01:36:53,399
on his NC double a time.
Fensori has sixty bass is ncuble a time

1326
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,119
this year. Last year his PLI
was seventy three, so pretty high but

1327
01:36:57,279 --> 01:37:02,279
similar looking at hockey prospecting, the
actually almost identical if you look at most

1328
01:37:02,319 --> 01:37:05,840
of their numbers. They've both kind
of gone up and down in terms of

1329
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:11,279
star potential, both ending at about
twenty six to twenty seven percent star potential.

1330
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:15,479
Thron has a slightly higher NHL or
probability, and I think that's mostly

1331
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:19,399
driven by the fact that he's six
foot two and Dominic Fensorius five foot seven,

1332
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:23,680
and I know that that factors into
the model. The guy I think

1333
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:28,239
he looks most like in the hockey
prospecting model is Kendrew Miller Candre Miller,

1334
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,560
an awesome defenseman, a little bit
pushed down the lineup in New York because

1335
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,359
of all the other great defenseman around
him, but still good in his own

1336
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:40,600
right. And in this case it
was a landslide. Henry Thron won sixty

1337
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:45,640
eight percent to thirty two percent.
Jesse, are you in concurment? Yeah?

1338
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,960
It is for the reason. I
mean, he basically had the same

1339
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:54,159
production line is Fentzer in there within
six months of age of each other.

1340
01:37:54,279 --> 01:37:57,800
And then you throw in an addition
to that that he's a much bigger boy,

1341
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,359
So why not. I think that's
you probably need to see. Plus

1342
01:38:01,399 --> 01:38:05,279
he is going to have, I
think, a smoother path with the rebuilding

1343
01:38:05,319 --> 01:38:12,640
Sharks then Fensoria was going to have
with the contending Carolina Hurricane. So thrown

1344
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,439
it is, Victor. Yeah,
let's thrown it up. This one's easy.

1345
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:20,239
I think I really like some of
Fenn Suri's game. He has pretty

1346
01:38:20,239 --> 01:38:25,279
good offensive acumen and some good instincts, and I think he's a really good

1347
01:38:25,359 --> 01:38:28,279
junior player. I'm not sure that
he's going to be a good pro player.

1348
01:38:28,359 --> 01:38:32,880
We will have to see if his
game can translate to the professional levels,

1349
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:38,159
because to this point he's been he's
been pretty awesome at Boston University.

1350
01:38:38,199 --> 01:38:41,600
He's been there for four years,
he's been the captain. Last year they

1351
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,760
went on a nice run, and
he has been okay at that level in

1352
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,920
terms of, you know, all
around. But in the HL it's going

1353
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:53,039
to be a different story. And
he's still hasn't grown. He's still he's

1354
01:38:53,039 --> 01:38:57,039
still one hundred and fifty pounds and
five foot seven, so pretty small.

1355
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,760
Um So, I think this is
easy, easily thrown just just an actual

1356
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:05,800
NHL frame NHL player, So this
might be an opportunity if you have been

1357
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:11,000
sorry to go ahead and trade him
and Victor. Um. I just have

1358
01:39:11,079 --> 01:39:14,039
to ask. I thought Thrunt was
going to be the new Star Wars villain,

1359
01:39:14,119 --> 01:39:16,239
So I'm a little bit confused that
you did a comp with him today.

1360
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,399
The new Star Wars villain. Yeah, there's there's gonna be an Admiral

1361
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,760
Thrunt who's going to be the new
Star Wars villain. Anyway, Sorry,

1362
01:39:25,159 --> 01:39:28,840
two people out there left, go
on. Well, there you go.

1363
01:39:29,119 --> 01:39:32,239
I guess I guess we'll have to
bring in some Star Wars jokes there too,

1364
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:35,439
So Jesse. There are a lot
more guys that we could talk about

1365
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:39,760
for this team, but there's no
there's no time. If you're a patron,

1366
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,359
you can listen to my top ten
per team recap on Patreon and if

1367
01:39:43,359 --> 01:39:45,920
you're interesting doing some skiding with us, shoot me a DM on Twitter,

1368
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,359
Discord, or email us and thanks
for listening. We'll come back right after

1369
01:39:49,399 --> 01:40:06,640
this closes out. Great talk,
great talk, and great deep dive into

1370
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:11,319
the Dynasty dig Victor. Before we
get out of here today, a couple

1371
01:40:11,319 --> 01:40:13,560
of things I want to go over
for the people. One of them is

1372
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,199
fan Tracks. Fan Tracks is the
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1373
01:40:16,199 --> 01:40:20,520
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can move leagues over to fan Tracks if

1374
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:24,720
you ask them, they'll help you
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1375
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have the deepest player pools, they
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1377
01:40:32,319 --> 01:40:35,920
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1378
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:40,680
the options that are there, and
you can set up your next year's leagues

1379
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,000
right now. You're listening to this, You're like, Man, I don't

1380
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:47,840
want to wait till the other name
brand fantasy platforms come out with their half

1381
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,720
dynasty ready stuff in four months.
I want to set this up now.

1382
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,239
You can set it up now.
You can just get a rolling and they

1383
01:40:56,239 --> 01:41:00,800
even have a good chat feature,
while other platforms are pulling back chat features

1384
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,840
that they're making things better all the
time. They're You've been taking recommendations from

1385
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:11,199
some of our listeners frankly to add
new features. It's really cool. Fantrak's

1386
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HQ has lots of fantasy content,
articles on fantasy hockey, all the other

1387
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Pod, Full Count, Fantasy Baseball,

1388
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The Fly, Fantasy Football, and
Fantasy Hoops. They're in the off season,

1389
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:28,000
but they'll be back. We're also
brought to you by by Dabber Prospects,

1390
01:41:28,039 --> 01:41:30,840
where Victor does his writing. Victor, what are you doing over at

1391
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:35,279
dabb Prospects. We're part of the
Dabber Hockey Network, Dog on It and

1392
01:41:35,319 --> 01:41:39,880
you're doing some writing there right now. What do you have going well?

1393
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,199
One of the things that I've been
talking about for a while as we all

1394
01:41:42,199 --> 01:41:45,520
got together and did our organizational ranks
and so we have a consensus and those

1395
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:50,680
articles have been going out. They
detail all the different We didn't do like

1396
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:55,239
a team by team per day.
We sort of did a range of teams,

1397
01:41:55,279 --> 01:41:58,720
and so each one of us kind
of wrote up the range of teams

1398
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,399
that are covered, and so you
can check that out at dabber Prospects dot

1399
01:42:01,399 --> 01:42:04,039
com and it kind of highlights some
of the main guys from each team and

1400
01:42:04,119 --> 01:42:10,159
some of the editors who are high
and low on each team, maybe a

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little bit higher on some than others. I definitely was an outlier in either

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direction. It was kind of interesting
to see how much some people like certain

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guys that I, you know,
maybe don't think are that exciting. But

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that's all, well, that's all
the art of scouting. But not only

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that. There's more Victor what are
you doing in terms of a little bit

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of audio content you have going in
that direction? Well, yeah, my

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other podcast. Thank you for reminding
me and reminding the listeners. So yeah,

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I've been with Peter Harling, our
good buddy, doing the Dabber Prospects

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Report, and so there's there's definitely
been some episodes relating to the CHL playoffs.

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We have an HL Rookie episode coming
out, and then we're actually going

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to do with several episodes detailing these
organizational ranks and kind of talking about why

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Peter or I were high on each
one and kind of discussing what goes into

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each player, whether they're interesting or
not. And then we'll certainly have some

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some draft content that'll be different from
ours, So it's nice to have some

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different content. We're not duplicating things
here, but yeah, check it out

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at as the old Daber Prospects Radio
now it's called the Diab Prospects Report.

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Yeah, it's a it's a good
APIs. I've been listening to every episode

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you've been on there. Victor Nuno
is now the co host of the best

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01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:32,560
too Fantasy Dynasty related podcasts on the
internet. How about that? And that

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one is really focused on just prospects, just prospects, and we cover prospects

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here. We want to cover the
overall Dynasty game and get you into some

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of the prospects, so all of
it is out there for you and Victor

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will provide. I do a second
podcast called Dynasty Sports Life. It's really

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focused on the Dynasty game across all
the Dynasty sports football, basketball, baseball,

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hockey, all the different stuff,
and we've got a lot of things

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going on. I've got a very
interesting question joke up this week, so

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you'll have to check that out Twitter. Follow us on Twitter at fan Hockey

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Life and Victor Nuno twelve is the
other place to follow us, Rate and

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review us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your pods.

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Thank you for listening it. Until
next time, keep living that fantasy

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hockey light.