1 00:00:11,439 --> 00:00:16,199 The first episode of season two of Clips and Dip. We start the new 2 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,640 seasons. The day of the draft is a rule that we made up and 3 00:00:19,679 --> 00:00:23,399 we're following it. I am Chuck Mockler, usually joined by Will Up to 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,600 like an Adam Oslin. Today it's just chucking Adam m Carl was supposed to 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,640 be here, Carl Tart. He had to go to Taco Johns because he's 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,520 out of town and the whole crew is getting dinner. I'm sorry, that's 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,960 his excuse for the draft. Yeah, I mean wait. Also, it's 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,719 his first time at Taco John's. Have you ever been to Taco Johns. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,759 I'd like to go. Taco Johns is great. You can get these things 10 00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:50,039 called potato lays. I'll get into it. We'll get into that later. 11 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:53,159 We'll get more in depth than that. We got time. We got time. 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,439 We are gonna be talking though, Adam. We have to talk about 13 00:00:56,479 --> 00:01:03,399 the fact that we did an entire hour law episode. For those of you 14 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,599 not watching on the YouTube stream, Adams got up and left because yesterday we 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:15,239 did a full episode on the Marcus Morris to the Clippers trade and it didn't 16 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,879 happen. Adam, why don't you break down to everyone what happened and talk 17 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:23,159 a little bit for maybe some of the new viewers. We trusted the wrong 18 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,560 people, is what happened. Yeah, we knew this was a possibility. 19 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:32,680 Okay, we said it yesterday. Until the team's finalize it and release a 20 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,079 press release, you never know what could happen, and the trade fell apart. 21 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,400 It fell through the cracks in the eleventh hour. Boston was able to 22 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:45,400 still get christapsport zingis now CB three has moved from Washington, but the Clippers 23 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:48,599 did not end up picking up Malcolm Brogden. I would like to say this, 24 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:55,120 I was quite annoyed at some of the comments afterwards in hindsight, from 25 00:01:55,159 --> 00:01:57,799 people saying, you dumbasses, you jumped the gun on that one a little 26 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,519 too early. On this one. One person say a damn thing when we 27 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,719 originally were doing a live stream, say oh, you guys shouldn't be doing 28 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:09,520 this right now. You don't know the trade might not go through. I 29 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,639 didn't see anyone in the comments section when we posted the podcast on YouTube say 30 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,400 it either until it ended up happening like five hours later. You're upset. 31 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,360 I'm a little bit Dirk Adams upset. I thought it was funny. I 32 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,400 think it showed how excited people were to not have Marcus Morris on the team 33 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:30,639 anymore. I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm saying it felt like 34 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:37,520 it was a release of some tension. But so what happened was also, 35 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,560 we're going to talk about the draft and you know whoever they end up picking 36 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,680 at number thirty if that's where they stay. But so for those of you 37 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:46,639 who like don't really know what happened or why the trade fell through, because 38 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,879 it is kind of crazy to see a trade just being like, oh, 39 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:53,280 they're parting ways now, Like I hadn't seen that in a while. The 40 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:00,199 Clippers asked the Celtics either for more information on Brogden's tendon situation or to do 41 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:06,080 another, um you know, a physical of their own, and the Celtics 42 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,680 basically said no, like deals off. Yeah, as Celtics says that are 43 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,080 upset with the Clippers, why don't you guys blame yourself that you had this 44 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:20,319 deadline last night with Chris Staffs four zingis and therefore the Clippers couldn't get the 45 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,800 full medical information in on Malcolm Brogdon. Okay, they're not negotiating in good 46 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,800 faith. I do have to say credit to the Clippers, credit to the 47 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,039 clips. We're just being like, we want to learn more about this, 48 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,599 We're not even gonna try and do it. And you know that, you 49 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,479 know that someone has to be so hurt for the Clippers to be like, 50 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,039 we don't want you. I don't get it, Truss, I don't. 51 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:47,400 I don't understand what the joke is here. But also some other so that 52 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:52,919 didn't happen. Marcus Morris is still on the team. No idea what the 53 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,759 locker room vibes are going to be if he's still on the team when the 54 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,879 season starts. Well, we're gonna wait, because there's obviously looking to just 55 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,719 shop Marcus Morris, and I think that's a possibility that they could start the 56 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,439 year with Marcus after trying to trade him like this. And I'm sure he 57 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,719 knew he would be a trade candidate going into this offseason anyways, And he 58 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,920 sent his goodbyes on Twitter to Clipper Nation last night when he thought the trade 59 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:24,800 was going through. A player involved in it was saying goodbye. Multiple players 60 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,639 were Yet you guys want to blame us, you all can kiss my mother, 61 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,480 all right? You got you gotta let it go, man, I 62 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:33,959 gotta range. This is what happens when Will's not here, Adam and they 63 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,279 I don't know if he'll be on If he is on the team opening night, 64 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:40,959 I don't think he's gonna be playing. I think he'll be there'll be 65 00:04:41,079 --> 00:04:44,399 in a we're trying to find a trade for him. Mode would be my 66 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:48,800 guest. I would suspect at this point, And there are two ways to 67 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,279 look at it. When you're a player of a draft capital to get him 68 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:57,680 for someone who they already knew was kind of hurt, Like I think they 69 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,040 want to they want to move him. We saw this with the Lakers when 70 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,240 they thought they had a deal done for CP three back in twenty eleven. 71 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:08,600 How the song Lamar owed him were both involved. Lamar couldn't get over the 72 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,839 fact that he was being shopped and eventually ended up getting traded to the Dallas 73 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:16,480 Mavericks. Pal came back played two more seasons with the Lakers. So it 74 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:23,519 can go one of two ways sometimes these things, right, Yeah, I 75 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,079 don't know it's gonna well, we'll see what happens, I guess, but 76 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:29,759 I would bet he's gone before the season. Another some other trade talk that 77 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,959 happened. Apparently the Knicks and the Clippers talked about the potential Paul George trade. 78 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,759 Obviously, by the time this episodes come out, the Clippers did not 79 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:44,120 do Paul George for number three Simons and Filler. That did not happen. 80 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,240 That were conversations, Yeah, there were conversations, but apparently the Blazes weren't 81 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,279 really interested in it from all the literature out there about it. But what 82 00:05:55,319 --> 00:05:58,000 about where you at, Mark Stein? Where you at? Now? I'm 83 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,240 coming after everybody, your fire it up, But let's talk about because the 84 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:04,439 Knicks and the Clippers thing was kind of that was a new piece of information 85 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:11,759 we all kind of got today. It cooled off because the Knicks were supposedly 86 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:15,959 not just the Knicks due to contract and injury concerns for Paul George specifically, 87 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:19,439 What did we think of this Knicks talk? What would the Knicks possibly have 88 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,759 that the Clippers would trade Paul George for. That's what I'm not really understanding 89 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,680 about that. Guess it would be centered around. Now, Isaiah Hartenstegn did 90 00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:34,920 opt out, so he is a free agent now, I believe, but 91 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,839 Obi Toppin would be somebody that the Clippers would be very interested in and I 92 00:06:40,879 --> 00:06:44,360 would think to fill that for position, we all need to act work. 93 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:46,560 Now we're making up for Paul George here, So like that's a lot of 94 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:53,160 salary because Obi's just on his we're near as good as PG like ever was 95 00:06:53,360 --> 00:07:00,160 or is, I guess, but so like something around that plus picks you 96 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,279 other players, you know, role player types I would guess have to be 97 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:09,199 involved just to make the salary conversation work. It would be difficult. I 98 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,199 don't I don't know. They're not getting I don't think they're bringing in Paul 99 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,040 George to get rid of Jalen Bronson, who they just signed. They're not 100 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,079 going to take Glett Julius Randall, like the Clippers wouldn't trade Julius Randall for 101 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:24,800 Paul George. RJ. Barrett, Like I don't know. I just don't 102 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:27,600 know what the conversations even were centered around trade wise, you know what I 103 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:32,399 mean, Mitchell Robinson for he and Big Zoo to form some new two towers. 104 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:36,279 I don't let's play balls at the same time. Let's those conversations. 105 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,120 But you know, I thought this was interesting mostly from the fact that when 106 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,040 you take a step back It's kind of crazy that all of this talk is 107 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:54,240 just out about supposedly trying to trade Paul George again. We're going into locker 108 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:59,839 room situations that just next year. It feels like we're just messy right now. 109 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,720 That's how it feels. I said this on the clippers pot account. 110 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,560 The Clippers are back to normal now, everything's just MESSI or somehow. Yeah, 111 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,519 And you also have to wonder with them pursuing Malcolm Brogden, with them 112 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:18,959 allegedly being interested in CP three, what does this mean for Russell Westbrook and 113 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:22,680 his Oh, I think he's back. I think Russ is back for sure. 114 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,120 I'm not it's super excited about that. I guess I'd rather have Russ 115 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,679 than CP three. But we're talking about guys feeling like they weren't being prioritized 116 00:08:31,799 --> 00:08:37,360 and they could get bitter and a little bit scorned over the fact that they 117 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:41,440 aren't the number one option that the Clippers were maybe looking at. Now all 118 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,759 alone, they could have been saying, Russ, we're interested in you and 119 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,879 bringing in another guy. It doesn't mean we don't want you back. But 120 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:52,639 the situation with paying him three point eight million dollars, which is looking like 121 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,600 the most they could offer him. You know, if he wasn't looking at 122 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,799 the same way from the stamp point of, Hey, these guys might not 123 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,200 care about me as much as I thought, or if they were trading Paul 124 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,519 George, would he come back his guy? So there's a lot in flux 125 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,679 there too. I would say it doesn't yeah that you know, CB three 126 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,039 to the Warriors, I do. I do think that means Russ is maybe 127 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,720 coming back, but it's got to be more likely, you would hope, 128 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:28,039 I would think, because right now, so ar Gordon's contract guarantees. I 129 00:09:28,039 --> 00:09:35,840 think in like five days he goes to his twenty what is it. I 130 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,759 think it's the twenty sixth or twenty eighth, somewhere in there ends of this 131 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:46,200 month. Yeah, so that kicks in in like five days. Um, 132 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:52,879 and I guess he's our starting point right now. I suppose under contract it's 133 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:58,159 not Terence Man. Well, if it's him, Terence pg kawai zu fantastic 134 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,559 U. I don't think Bubbs, I love Bones. I don't think he's 135 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,360 ready to start. But yeah, so how are we feeling now that as 136 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:09,120 we inch closer to the Clippers pick, which we're gonna talk about some prospects 137 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,919 who we like at thirty, which is just basically Robert Flam's articles because he 138 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:20,480 writes really good stuff about the Clippers drafts options. How are we feeling, 139 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,279 I'm feeling pretty good since we got somebody watching us from Sydney, Australia. 140 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:28,840 Ye, shout out Lane Mellish. If you're watching us on YouTube, thank 141 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:31,399 you so much. We're at Clippers Podcast. We've just been doing these live 142 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,679 things when stuff happens. If you're listening to us on Spotify or Ray listening 143 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,320 to us, thank you for that too. But if you want to see 144 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,840 what our faces look like for whatever reason, go to YouTube. For me. 145 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:46,480 There's like two extremes going on right now, two possibilities where they blow 146 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:52,039 it up or they run it back with two one three. I think the 147 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:56,639 blow up to reinforce the Scoot thing could still happen, just because it didn't 148 00:10:56,639 --> 00:11:00,200 happen right when the pick went down. We see this all the time on 149 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:03,360 draft night, where guys end up changing hats, where somebody ends up getting 150 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:07,039 moved. I can't see them. Okay, let's talk about this. If 151 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,679 not Scoot, what about Dame being an option? Now? If Portland is 152 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,279 saying a lot of people, we're going to run it back without Damian Lillard 153 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,840 and build around Scoot Henderson. Does Dame now finally become available because they're keeping 154 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:26,360 Scoot. I can't see them keeping both of them and legitimately being a contender 155 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,000 this season, like apparently Damian Lillard finally wants them to be. That is 156 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:33,879 a good point, because there worth some stuff about how like Dame had been 157 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,240 had talked to Scoot and all these other things where it kind of felt like, 158 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,480 oh, that's a nice little story to happen right now, right after 159 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:46,799 everyone's talking about oh they're maybe not, like he doesn't want that to happen. 160 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:50,840 Could but can the Blazers make a play for a veteran guy to bring 161 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:56,200 in without either of those guys? I guess they could. It just depends 162 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:58,480 on got it right, Like if they really believe in Scoot, the Blazers 163 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:07,279 could just their depth and try to sharp Simons. They still do have pieces. 164 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:13,440 Look Anfony Simons is a really talented young player that I think teams would 165 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,559 be interested in. It's just if you're not getting Scoot, what's the high 166 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:24,320 end type of player you're able to get back in return as opposed to including 167 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,320 Scoot, and therefore you might have a possibility with somebody like Pg. Thirteen, 168 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:33,000 which has been the rumor for weeks now, even before mark Stein started 169 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,879 talking about it. We all were because the Portland Trailblazers were allegedly interested in 170 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:41,639 trading the number three pick. Yeah, that could change. It comes down 171 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:46,240 to Damian Lillard. His prerogative. What does he want? How highly does 172 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:48,960 he think of Scoot? Is he getting caught up? Did he see my 173 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:56,360 Baron Davis comp Is that enough? We don't know that he didn't. Is 174 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:01,039 that enough to make him believe that they could actually compete right now with a 175 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:07,120 young guy? Because he does offer so much immediately with just his downhill pressure, 176 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,600 with his defense, there's two traits that translate to the NBA right away. 177 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:15,840 If you want to go after his shooting and knowing he has to develop 178 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:18,679 that more and more as his career goes along, Well, can he help 179 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,200 you in other ways immediately? Yeah? I think he can. And I 180 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,679 think that's why a lot of Clipper Nation would be interested still in trying to 181 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,039 make a runner in him. You see, so we got something in the 182 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,960 chat from David Hellman. Can we just swap PG for Dame. I don't 183 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,720 know if that, how would you feel about that, Adam? I love 184 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,879 Damian Lillard. He's my favorite non Clipper. I also don't think he's a 185 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:46,480 better player than Paul George because well, he makes you more of a liability 186 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,200 on the front end of your defense, at your point of attack, because 187 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,360 for years he just hasn't It's some of it's just due to his size, 188 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,519 but he's not a good enough defender. That's why they've struggled for so long. 189 00:13:56,759 --> 00:14:01,039 They've never been a great defense in Portland. It's not because they haven't 190 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,039 had talent behind him. At times. Robert Covington was there, they had 191 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Hassan Whiteside there for a while back when he was still considered a pretty darn 192 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,960 good defender. But if you're getting beat off the dribble that much, it 193 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,399 just collapses your defense and the whole start to open up from there. It's 194 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,960 really difficult. With he and CJ two undersized guys in the starting lineup, 195 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,480 they were never going to be able to be good enough on that end. 196 00:14:24,919 --> 00:14:26,759 So look, I love Damian Lillard. If there was a way to bring 197 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,360 him in and keep Kawhi and PG that's the will Updike dream. I think 198 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:37,440 you do it absolutely Otherwise, I just Portland. I would never see them 199 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,720 trading their legacy player for the guy that he hit a shot against to win 200 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:46,120 a playoff series in Paul George and be able to sell that to the fans. 201 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,240 It's one thing to bring in Paul George to play with him, and 202 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,519 that would be interesting considering there was some beef back in the bubble. There 203 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:56,440 was a lot of chatter between those two and Patrick Beverley even on Instagram. 204 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,159 But I can't see it with just trading Dames straight up for Paul George because 205 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:09,039 they're really in the same situation then contract wise, especially with him having an 206 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:13,360 extension coming up. That's a good call. I like this question from David 207 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:16,200 Hellman because it also brings up something I want to talk about that happened on 208 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,840 Clippers Twitter. David Hellman asked, can Winger hook us up with Tias Jones? 209 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:26,120 Tias Jones on this team would be very fun. I would like that. 210 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:28,519 Okay, that'd be a fun time. We're not talking about the other 211 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:31,840 thing right now. We're gonna talk about that in a second. As a 212 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:37,000 basketball player, Tias Jones no real idea what the Wizards are doing. They're 213 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:41,320 obviously blowing it up, and Tias Jones might be too good for that team. 214 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:46,000 I like what they did today when the full details of the trade with 215 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,240 Bradley Beal came out and they got six second round picks and then getting Jordan 216 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,639 Pool. Is that what we're gonna be talking about a little later up. 217 00:15:52,879 --> 00:15:54,840 Yeah, Well, they just kind of blow the whole thing up. Like 218 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,919 no, I was talking about the tweet that someone put out on Clippers Twitter 219 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,120 that they would trade Paul Jacob's dumbass. Sorry, Oh no, we're not. 220 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:10,639 We can't give him press. It would trade Paul George at some point, 221 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,799 My friend, you're a sacrificing credibility for attention. In a heartbeat, 222 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,840 he said, I don't know you should be doing. He would do that. 223 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,679 Here's a heart about Tias Jones. I was critical of Michael Winger yesterday 224 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:26,720 regarding that trade because as much as I like him, he's going to be 225 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,639 a free agent after this season. What I could see happening is he and 226 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:38,279 Jordan Pool are feasting and putting up I'm not saying shack Kobe Gift like numbers 227 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:45,360 like Thias Jones and Jordan Pool with the Washington Wizards are gonna look like this, 228 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,360 and you showed the little Shack and Kobe footage. It's gonna be like 229 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,639 that. They're gonna put up numbers. They're not gonna win a lot, 230 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,159 but Tias Jones at the trade deadline I think could become very interesting for trying 231 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,759 for a team that's that wants to take themselves over the top. Actively tried 232 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:03,519 it. Yeah, and then he gets his first round pick, maybe for 233 00:17:03,599 --> 00:17:08,119 Tias Jones, because you know they only got one first round pick at of 234 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,799 Bradley Beale and Chris Staff sporzingis. But getting Jordan Pool today for that price 235 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,559 was phenomenal. I thought Golden State Warriors selling that low. So Tyas Jones, 236 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,400 he's gonna probably average twenty and nine nine assists per game on the season, 237 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,640 I think, so yeah, true, it might not be pretty, 238 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,759 but I bet he gets up there. In his dozen starts this year with 239 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:32,920 the Memphis Grizzlies, he was at twenty one and eight, so I don't 240 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,680 think it's out of the Roman possibility. The fuel goal percentage will likely take 241 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,480 a day pill beforeced to take more tough shots, but that's one of the 242 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:42,640 more talented and I think he's twenty seven now, but young point guards were 243 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,920 the best assist to turnover ratio in the league, and I guess the Washington 244 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,519 Wizards have the top four guys when it comes to assist to turnover ratio. 245 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:59,880 That's a Will Updike team right there. That's like Will's favorite stat is assist 246 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,799 a turnover issue. Mine is a rebound percentage, which also doesn't really mean 247 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:08,839 anything, but it's fun. Vindication is asking on the stream any chance we 248 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:14,319 can sell ull loove Morris tonight. Sure, but they also have time. 249 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,400 I guess, you know, like there's he's probably the next Clipper to be 250 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,799 traded. I think that's a pretty safe thing to say. I don't know 251 00:18:19,839 --> 00:18:25,359 if it'll happen at night. No one's giving us draft picks in any world 252 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,720 for Marcus Morris, so yeah, I don't think it's gonna have to be 253 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:33,079 something where there's a sweetener involved, where there's a second round pick, where 254 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:38,079 another player like Robert Covington or a mere coffee who was included in the trade. 255 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,039 The initial deal before was nixt Yesterday, I did text with Brian Seamen. 256 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:48,839 He's doing okay. Okay on the ameer coffee front. Yeah, he 257 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,880 was freaked out first, understandably. I mean the coffee puns runneth over like. 258 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:56,640 I wasn't gonna use him very much because he never really plays. But 259 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:03,559 yeah, I had just posted the a mirror coffee game ceiling shot against the 260 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:07,319 Philadelphia seventy six ers in Philly when they came back on doc Down twenty where 261 00:19:07,319 --> 00:19:14,440 Brian said coffee is for closers and it's so cool. I posted a minute 262 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,000 before the trade deal fell through the cracks, and I was like, oh, 263 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:26,079 we gotta delete this. A mirror still at the clocks end. Yeah, 264 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,720 um, all right, So I think we're gonna we gotta take a 265 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:30,279 quick fake commercial break if you're listening to this on the audio, if you're 266 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,279 on the streamers going to do a quick pause. But we're gonna talk about 267 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:40,960 some people that the Clippers should maybe draft. Also, maybe the people watching 268 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:44,759 us live can keep us abreast of situations in case we're not paying attention to 269 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:48,519 the Twitter because I got a couple of them, but I'm still trying to 270 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:51,920 look at the camera. I got a Woads window open. I gotta shams 271 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,119 until open right now, Wade throwing shade at Shams are acting like the Charlotte 272 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,400 Hornets. We're actually gonna take Scoot. Earlier in the day, well so 273 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:04,559 wait, let's talk about that first set. Because Shams is sponsored by a 274 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:08,720 betting company, Jackings fan Duel. I think it's Fan Duel. It's one 275 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:12,720 of the it's one of the betting companies. So he's affecting lines like he's 276 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:18,039 affecting betting lines when he reports anything, anything out of the ordinary, that 277 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:23,759 Sham's reports will affect that situation's lot. Brandan Miller was like, little, 278 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,839 yeah, it is now the NBA is trying to embrace gambling and stuff. 279 00:20:27,839 --> 00:20:32,599 But earlier in the day, Brandon Miller was a minus eight hundred to go 280 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,519 at pick number two, and then after Sham's reported that they were interested in 281 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:41,640 Scoots still he went to being a minus two hundred. I think it was. 282 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:45,720 That's crazy. Yeah, so a huge swing. But we're just yeah, 283 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,519 and that's because partly because of that and probably because people bet on it. 284 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:52,720 When you bet on something like, it's crazy. Um, David Helmn 285 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:56,079 with a great bit. The front office is currently working hard to fill a 286 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,839 positional need for Ontario. So all right, We're gonn take a quick break 287 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,519 and then we're gonna talk about what this draft pick is going to do, 288 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,039 Like what just the ceiling of whoever we draft is going to be. It 289 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:11,920 doesn't matter who it is, but we are drafting someone apparently in the first 290 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,079 round is going to be a guaranteed contract. So we got ads coming up 291 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,559 for the real fans out there. If these have been too loud, if 292 00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:21,119 you go ahead and turn it down, we got ads coming up in three 293 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:29,279 two one. Welcome back into a live YouTube edition of season two, episode 294 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,240 one of the clips in dip podcasts in terms of a stream right now and 295 00:21:33,319 --> 00:21:36,920 bring it to you live on draft night. I'm Adam Awesoin. We got 296 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,200 Chuff Mochler. No, we'll up to Carl Tart was not able to make 297 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,559 it, but we are here for you guys. As the status of that 298 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:48,759 Clippers pick at number thirty is they still own it, still made asses of 299 00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:51,799 ourselves. Some say, yesterday, I think we brought up a lot of 300 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:56,599 good points in a hypothetical what if you know, you know what's funny when 301 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,119 the Clippers draft from Malcolm Brogdon. We can just release that episode. We 302 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,880 did it a year ago. We're way ahead of the light years right here 303 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,920 at the Golden State Warriors anymore after what they gave up. Yeah, but 304 00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:12,720 so we were talking about a little bit before the break, what is this, 305 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:21,319 whoever has picked at thirty for the Clippers is not going to see the 306 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:26,160 floor for the LA Clippers next year. And I don't mean that as a 307 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,960 slight to whoever's picked at thirty. You're just being selected at number thirty for 308 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:37,119 a team that's trying to win literally right now. So like, unless that 309 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:45,319 guy's the best point guard or a backup center NBA caliber, you know, 310 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,240 I kind of like what Chilmer was saying about maybe trading the pick, but 311 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,000 and I guess we were set to so I don't know. Yeah, I 312 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,960 agree with you wholeheartedly. I think the best case scenario would be the Clippers 313 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:03,599 do trade the pick to correspond with a larger, bigger move like we thought 314 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,079 was going to happen yesterday, because you need impactful players on a team with 315 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,480 championship aspirations. You need guys who can actually fill a role right now. 316 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:17,359 We thought, I remember when Jason Preston was drafted, what if what if 317 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,160 this guy turns into somebody that can build the Clippers. I never thought to 318 00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:26,200 be we were not doing the show. When Jason Preston was draft, We're 319 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,559 not doing this show. I was. I did not think. What can 320 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,799 Jason Preston do. I'll tell you what. The ATNT commercial hats off to 321 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:38,240 his management team. I will. I will live and die by that great 322 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,200 work. That voiceover is Morgan Freeman worthy. It is beautiful time, Jason. 323 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,359 I don't know about that, but yeah, I'm just saying. The 324 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:52,160 hype around draft picks on Draft night reaches absurd levels at times, where people 325 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,319 get far too excited over every pick, no matter where it is, and 326 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,920 the truth is, yes, that could turn out to be somebody. We 327 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,519 just saw nikoloat to a two time MVP now Finals MVP, be drafted in 328 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:10,920 the second round and lead his team to a championship. So anything is possible, 329 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,880 and he was drafted during a Taco Bell commercial. But the likelihood of 330 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,839 that stuff happening is so small, so slim, so low, that you 331 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,319 got to temper your expectations and be grounded in reality just a little bit. 332 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:34,400 Because even top ten picks routinely annually end up being bus It's unfortunate and it's 333 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,960 fun to celebrate the guys in their dream coming to fruition tonight. But I 334 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,240 don't think you should get too caught up. And this guy can help right 335 00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:47,839 away. This guy can do something right now. Even Musadiabate, who I 336 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,960 would say has a skill set that could lend itself to helping you sooner than 337 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:56,599 later. And we saw it in that comeback in Portland last season, still 338 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,319 had trouble getting on the court, and it looked like after his first two 339 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,359 appears, it out like that's the thing, Like Moose is not going to 340 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,319 beat out Mason Plumly to play NBA meaningful NBA minutes just because he doesn't know 341 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,240 how to play NBA basketball yet. Yeah, And even when he looked more 342 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:15,160 than just competent in one game or two games afterwards, it looked like the 343 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,519 wheels were turning in his head too much. He was overthinking things. He 344 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:25,000 wasn't he wasn't reating and reactor. Yeah, young players, they deal with 345 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,799 I don't know, paralysis by analysis, with overthinking things and not being as 346 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,839 reactive and instinctual as you would like them to be. That's just part of 347 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,119 the process until the game slows down for them. As good as Moosa is 348 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,240 getting twenty and fourteen in the G League all the time, and as much 349 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,839 as the Clippers had a need in that position area last season, it didn't 350 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,160 matter. So if he couldn't get on the court more so than he ended 351 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:56,720 up doing when the Clippers didn't have a traditional season backup center before bringing in 352 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:03,960 Mason Plumly, how many guys could be drafted at the thirtieth pick that the 353 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,119 Clippers would be able to get court time for this season in a championship or 354 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:14,279 bust year, and it's a guaranteed contract. Whoever we're picking at thirty is 355 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,480 getting an end meat like a full contract. So that is also what makes 356 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,200 it cramped, which is what kind of Tilmayer was talking about. Um, 357 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,920 that was a great point when he was on the show. It was a 358 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,880 really good guys missed it. We had Law Murray on recently. Man Law 359 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,799 Murray was fantastic. Um, he yeah, Law was that That was really 360 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:40,720 fun episode. I'm saying we got Bill Walton treatment. We asked him one 361 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:45,160 question and he just went the rest of the way. I didn't just hang 362 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,759 out, you know. All right, So let's talk maybe some guys that 363 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:55,319 the Clippers could draft I have. We're part of the two win three hoops 364 00:26:55,319 --> 00:27:00,160 empire. Here at clips and dip um. Hold on, Can I take 365 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,119 one sec to talk about something else, just a real quick thing, quick 366 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,720 pivot. Still basketball, lady, Like I haven't gone on enough tangents already. 367 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:15,720 I hate draft pick spoiling on Twitter. And I understand the argument, 368 00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:19,640 why aren't you just not on Twitter? If you do sports media stuff, 369 00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:26,759 you quite literally have to be on Twitter when the draft is happening. You 370 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:32,960 just have to uh in some way or another. I hate getting just just 371 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:37,880 let him announce the pick? Who cares? Are you saying? It's gotta 372 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,680 be incentive for like their quotas, it's got to be. It has to 373 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:48,359 They put a muscle on woes or put you know him and cuffs on the 374 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,720 evil four letter. And they tried to stop him from doing it. And 375 00:27:52,839 --> 00:28:00,480 now he works for a gambling company and is spoiling drafts shops shomps is care, 376 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,440 Yeah he doesn't yet, but he's just cloud chasing, just cloud chasing 377 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,799 typical. But it's just a little it's just not as I'm getting I'm becoming 378 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:12,519 a very old man in real time now. For those of you watching but 379 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,960 I just feel like it's not as false. Well, especially when you're streaming 380 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:22,079 something it's already delayed thirty seconds or a minute from live television. The live 381 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,759 television isn't actually live either. There's like a seven second or twelve second or 382 00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:30,279 twenty five second delay, depending on the network, and then you're getting the 383 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:34,119 tweet you're watching like three minutes or five minutes before it actually happens. So 384 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:41,440 it just renders their analysis useless. During a draft party, her draft analysts 385 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:47,720 like who is Jay billis? Right now, they're talking about a guy and 386 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:51,920 how he fits in, the French guy that came in at number seven, 387 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,240 who's not ending up going to Indiana because the Washington Wizards ended up trading pick 388 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,079 number eight with them and a couple of those second round wings or second round 389 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:04,960 picks from Michael Winger. Uh So, yeah, it kind of just makes 390 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,599 things a lot more murky. But I don't know, I don't it's Twitter, 391 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,839 like it's up to you to stay off of Twitter then like they don't 392 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,519 care, they don't care, Chuck, I don't know. I get yes, 393 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,240 Victim, blame that. No, that sounds good. Yeah, let's 394 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,759 do that all right? One more tangent, which is something we actually haven't 395 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:29,119 talked about on the show yet, which I like. Deuce Times on the 396 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,440 YouTube stream said, have y'all heard anything about the quay injury? Did he 397 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:37,480 have surgery? Not a question, just yelling it with two exclamation points. 398 00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:42,200 Is he playing anywhere? Uh no, I'm not sure. Probably not. 399 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,000 Is he playing anywhere? We know he wouldn't be playing five on five because 400 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:51,400 we know, yeah, we know he's not playing five on five in the 401 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,440 off season. That's nothing about the quay injury. They the last thing we 402 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,039 heard was that they were trying to just avoid surgery. We haven't We're not 403 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:03,960 going to hear anything till we see the official tweet about it. And that's 404 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,119 right, like it. Maybe he had surgery and we'll find out about it 405 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,240 a month after it happens. You know, who knows? Yeah, he 406 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:12,720 would. I think he would have got it. They'll probably it'll be a 407 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:17,119 thing where they announced like if he had it, which I don't know if 408 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,319 he had, I don't think he did. Um, it'll be like, 409 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,200 oh, he got it on this date X amount of weeks again, and 410 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:30,480 he should be ready for the for the which is something so l Frank did 411 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:36,599 stress in his season ending exit interview that regardless of if he has surgery or 412 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,880 not, he'll be ready to go by the start of next season, which 413 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:47,559 seems to be the diagnosis of that meniscus injury. The question is whether or 414 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,920 not you end up having the surgery. Some guys don't and it works fine. 415 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,880 Some guys do and it works fine as well, and we're hoping for 416 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,000 the best. I do have concerns like, how many times can that write 417 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:04,720 leg be injured in a different area starting with the quadra step than the acl 418 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:10,440 A now meniscus tear, and that he just keeps coming back looking like the 419 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,000 same player. How many times can you expect that to happen? It's it's, 420 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:21,119 of course, concerning another knee injury. Players who are often injured early 421 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,400 on in their career and in their prime don't magically start staying healthier later in 422 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,039 their career. That's not how you don't talk to me. Chris Paul is 423 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:36,039 more injury prone than pretty much ever. I know he had a couple of 424 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:40,000 good years when he switched to the vegan diet, but guys, for the 425 00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,440 most part, outside of maybe Grant Hill, when he finally did recover from 426 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,559 the ankle injury, but he wasn't nearly the same player and could play consistently 427 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:51,359 for the Phoenix Suns then not Orlando. Like, it's just not how it 428 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,799 works. Look at Blake Griffin and how that went. It kind of fell 429 00:31:53,839 --> 00:32:00,920 off a cliff pretty quickly. Yeah, I mean, kind of depressing to 430 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,960 think about what You're totally right. On the other end, Kawa has had 431 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,480 major injuries on the right leg, and every time he comes back looking as 432 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:15,400 strong as ever, he handles it well, his recovery when he's back on 433 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,359 you cannot deny that he looks every much has been of the player that he 434 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,599 very much is. Um. All right, we got to talk at least 435 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:29,240 at some point about some some Clippers prospects. This is from the Big twenty 436 00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:34,880 twenty three NBA Draft by the Numbers Big Man by Robert Flam. Very sad 437 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Clippers fan Robert Flam if you follow him on Twitter, and he would agree, 438 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,039 because it's difficult to be a fan of this team sometimes. But for 439 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,720 rob that sometimes is every day sad. When they were in the Western Conference 440 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:51,119 finals, like he's he was sad when they were able to respect. I 441 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,720 mean, you gotta respect it um, but he knows a lot. He 442 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,319 so Adam and I do not watch college basketball. I do have much better 443 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,079 things to do than watch college basketball, which might be a surprise of some 444 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,359 people, and I just don't have the time for it. I watch UCLA 445 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,119 here and there when I fill in for Tim Kates on Brula's Talk, so 446 00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,759 I keep up with them a little bit. But it's not much. It's 447 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:22,039 not much. So we're going off this trace. Jackson Davis. He played 448 00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:27,920 at Indiana six nine average almost three blocks. It was two point six blocks. 449 00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:31,599 He can't shoot, so big guy who can't shoot already feels like that 450 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:37,920 checks a pretty big box for Clippers draft picks. Okay, am I wrong? 451 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:43,680 No, you're wrong, am I. The line is, you're not 452 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:47,960 wrong, You're just an a hole. Walter from the big He's very good 453 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,039 at defense. He's obviously a crazy athlete. I think we can say that 454 00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:58,720 for every every draftee now. Is has incredible athleticism. He averaged four assists 455 00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:01,799 a game is senior year. Big guy kind of has this nice little skill 456 00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:08,639 set that is rare in his size. He's another thing that maybe checks the 457 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:14,199 box for the Clippers. He's twenty three, So he's not young parents man, 458 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,119 parents man, big guy who can't shoot, maybe a little older this 459 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,360 he feels like a Clipper a Fee could shoot. It just didn't translate to 460 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,719 the next level. The Fee thing. Okay, well, at any time 461 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,239 they brought dude Fee's career makes me so bummed out because he was like a 462 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,119 meme as soon as he came up to the actual Clippers team, Like, 463 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,039 we put Fee in and tol him to shoot whatever. He touches the ball, 464 00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:43,320 and it's like, how is that good for his development? That is 465 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,079 not good trying to enable him and give him confidence. What do you mean 466 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,239 he was going to be the next surge of Baca? I thought, yeah, 467 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,639 exactly. I did see Deuce Time's reply to our conversation there about Kawhi 468 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,400 Leonard saying, in my opinion, I think that's why Kawhi has always heard 469 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,679 he don't play five on five enough. You can't shock your body like that. 470 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,679 Kobe played in the off season, Jordan played, Lebron played. Kawhi 471 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,320 needs to play all right. First of all other guys, Jordan didn't play. 472 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,679 He golfed, he gambled. His trainer is on record saying like he 473 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,239 would take months off without picking up a basketball like Anthony Davis. It was 474 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,880 a different time. There have been copious amounts of research as why guys are 475 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:30,239 injured more than ever nowadays. It's because they play specialized sports. They only 476 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,440 play those sports, and they play at a very high level at a young 477 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,400 age and put more stress on their body at a younger age. That is 478 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,440 what it is. There's tons of research on it if you want to look 479 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,559 it up. It's not that they're not as tough as the former era. 480 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,639 It's those guys were firemen and had offseason jobs and these guys today are just 481 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:58,440 playing basketball too much year round and it's worn them down. That's fair. 482 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,280 I mean, I will say the five would be kind of cool to see 483 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,760 some offseason five on five footage. We're not going to see kawaiet the Drew 484 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,719 Okay, so I go to Venice chell I pump iron. That would be 485 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,960 so funny. That is where we'll see k We'll see Kawhi on muscle beach 486 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,800 doing the doing like the vertical like pull ups where guys are doing handstands and 487 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,360 like those guys, I would like to see Scoop become a clipper just so 488 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,559 he and Kawuhi can flex on each other. Those will be two of the 489 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:32,480 strongest players in the league. How do you feel about going for a big 490 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:37,280 guy for the Clippers in this draft? Like, what's a position? Say 491 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,599 just position group? Are you trying to draft in here, Chris h carl 492 00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:45,599 tart is not joining us. He had to go to a dinner with people 493 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:49,440 he was traveling with, and that dinner was at Taco Johns. I think 494 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,119 it was just Taco Bell and he just went through the drive through and use 495 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:55,320 that as now I can talk about it because it's been a while for those 496 00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,599 of you who have never been to Taco John's. It's a Westmac place that 497 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,239 started in Wyoming. Of all places, they have these things called potato alas. 498 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,519 They're these seasoned kind of tater tot things. You can get a six 499 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:13,679 pack in a pound, which is six tacos and a pound of potato alas 500 00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:20,000 for very cheap staple of the Western United States. Anyway, that's where Carlos. 501 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,760 I'm more of a Jim Boys taco guy, Jim versus John. I 502 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,159 don't know if that's like Mark Zucker versus Elon Musk or anything, but they 503 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,360 could be in Taco worsh no idea, no idea. I'm a Taco John's 504 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,719 guy. That's what I was raised on. Anyway, position groups that you 505 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,960 would look at if you're the Clippers, if you're like, let's rank it 506 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:44,039 like guards forwards, would I would say the same thing that I said yesterday 507 00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:51,000 regarding the Charlotte Hornets in a different way. The Clippers should just take best 508 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,079 player available over position, matter and fit, because they're not going to be 509 00:37:55,159 --> 00:38:00,000 playing four years at this level with this group, with this team. So 510 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:06,480 take the guy that maybe is the next Brandon Boston, that was somebody that 511 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,400 had a precipitous fall in the draft and that has a really high ceiling. 512 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,960 I would go with a guy like that over whatever the position. If you're 513 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,360 gonna go position, you want to say four. But by the time they're 514 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,920 up to speed to play the four position, are they going to be in 515 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,360 need of that guy in the starting lineup? Is that realistic at all? 516 00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,719 I don't think so. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's 517 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:37,760 just just BPA. So I ask if we can go through the positional needs 518 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,039 for Ontario. No, we're not going to do that. I don't know 519 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:45,639 how else to say it, I'm not running through the ge league roster that 520 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,639 I don't know very much about the draft roster. We're not going to know 521 00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:54,480 the GELA roster bunch either, right, Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. 522 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,079 And this is where that the trade yesterday falling through really screws the Clippers. 523 00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:07,199 Obviously, having Marcus on the team, he's going to be moved, that's 524 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,000 like, no big deal. Whatever. Are they going to be able to 525 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:15,800 trade this pick in the next let's call it thirty five minutes to not have 526 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,400 to select somebody they obviously prepared for the draft. I'm not making it seem 527 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,599 like that, but you know what I mean. This is another pretty rough 528 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:29,000 outcome of that of the Broadden injury scenario. I mean, the other side 529 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:35,280 of it could be you take best player available because you're more likely to trade 530 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,960 that pick anyways. Even if you do draft the guy, it could be 531 00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:45,079 someone that's you reroute to another team later in the tonight or in the next 532 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:50,079 week. Not very much later. Were the thirtieth pick. Everyone knows that 533 00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:53,800 the Clippers were in win now mode. Every team knows that they all saw 534 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,400 yesterday they were trying to trade that pick. They know it can be had 535 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,199 for the right price, the right player, for the right three team deal. 536 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,559 That doesn't fall through, it can be It can be done. So 537 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,840 if we're still talking about Malcolm brogden't need needs for this Clippers team aside from 538 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,159 the draft. I mean, it looks like maybe, regardless of if Russ 539 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:22,599 is coming back, they want to add another guard. Now, Brogden was 540 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,880 more of a combo guy that you could still bigger point. Yeah, for 541 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:34,000 defensive purposes, he's good at the point, interchangeable, could play more positions, 542 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,800 would have a better chance getting on the floor with coach Lou and the 543 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:44,400 Olive Garden crew. That would have been a really nice fit. But it 544 00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,079 sounds like through the physical if they can't get all that information. Yeah, 545 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:52,559 you got to air on the side, right, Yeah, and you know 546 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,679 there's still a possibility. I guess Boston now is electing to keep him because 547 00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,639 they lost Marcus, have to, but they could still bring in someone else 548 00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:06,840 too, Like, yeah, it's not like they couldn't. They couldn't. 549 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:14,679 I guess get back to that or rekindle those conversations with the Boston Celtics and 550 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,000 maybe another team at some point. If they could just get all his medical 551 00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:21,679 information. Yeah, I think I think the issue is they don't want anyone 552 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,719 to have it. I think I don't think. I think Brogden's stand put. 553 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,960 They're just gonna try and play him, um six Man of the Year. 554 00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:30,559 It's not a bad option. I mean, yeah, he's not a 555 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:36,800 bad option. He's just crazy hurt um oh more picks getting spoiled. Hell 556 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,840 yeah, let's go a good pick Utah. David Hellman says thirtieth pick is 557 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,760 a brutal trade asset. It is, and the way the Clippers got here 558 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,000 is a little frustrating when you think about it, because it was part of 559 00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:52,599 the Eric Gordon trade, and then bringing in Russ kind of made Eric Gordon 560 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,079 redundant a little bit. That was the other thing about the Brogden trade is 561 00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,199 that the Brogden trade kind of signaled to me they were going to maybe move 562 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:07,199 Gordon because he makes Gordon a little redundant. That's a fair point. It 563 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,239 could just be well, we still have Eric Gordon on the team. We 564 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,960 struck out with Malcolm Brogden, we still have Eric Gordon here. Maybe he 565 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,719 is part of their future, but I still wouldn't be surprised if he was 566 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,159 included in a trade scenario. I thought when they first brought him in part 567 00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,719 of the reason was he is salary cap filler aside from what he does on 568 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,719 the court, and he still is very serviceable. But in a trade he 569 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:37,400 could be a little bit of an interesting piece for a team that knows he's 570 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,239 only guaranteed this much coming into this season. That might entice a team to 571 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,679 want a trade for Eric Gordon because they can get out of that contract pretty 572 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:51,360 easily. And we still don't the CBA rules, so that makes things all 573 00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:55,840 much more trickier. What is that thing coming out? What Detox does from 574 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:02,280 Doctor Dre like what well he talks to come out but didn't. It was 575 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,920 like a song Compton came out, which is a great album. I don't 576 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,320 know why many people. Yeah, um y had a couple of tracks, 577 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,440 but I don't even Yeah, that's true. It was just a couple of 578 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,519 tracks. I go deep with death Row. You don't even know Chuck, 579 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,079 Yeah, I'm about to grab right now. Yeah, please do not. 580 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:29,760 There needs to be no medallion. Um drunken public Service asked, I think 581 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,480 that's trent Um obviously keeping two one three in tach. How does the front 582 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,440 office, get the team younger and more athletic. Trades. Trades, trades, 583 00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,719 trades, do what they tried to do yesterday. Not that Malcolm Brogden 584 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,400 is a spring chicken, but just you gotta make moves trade wise. You 585 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,239 gotta trade the old fours for one young four. I know it's not that 586 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,519 easy, but you brought up a great trade scenario that I do think is 587 00:43:54,639 --> 00:44:01,119 very realistic on the bleacher report, right Reese, which ball this was involving 588 00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:09,960 the Knicks. Oh yeah, Obie and Hartenstein for the thirtieth pick Morris or 589 00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:14,840 Rocco and then maybe a young guy. I think that makes sense. I 590 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,320 think Obie Toppin would be a great pickup and give an athletic punch to this 591 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,559 Clippers team immediately, a jolt in that area, and just change the dynamic 592 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,000 of their offense a little bit. To have a rim runner. You know, 593 00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:30,559 they haven't had an elite, elite rim runner like that. Just throw 594 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:36,119 it up, go get it type guy since Blake Griffin right, and he'd 595 00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:37,719 be on a prove it deal, you know, like he'd be he's not 596 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,039 making a bunch of money. Now you can sign him to a prove it 597 00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:45,719 deal, which is kind of nice and he's and we get Hartenstein back. 598 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,760 What a good time in his own right was a pretty good rim runner for 599 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,599 the Clippers and sure would throw down and they'd look for him often. But 600 00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:58,920 Obie Toppin was in the dunk contest, I think another guy, and he 601 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,119 wanted to trade for guys who are in the skills games at the All Star 602 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,920 Games. You're like, hey, if you can't jump over a key, 603 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,719 I'm not interested. All right, I need to see that. I think 604 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,559 it's somebody like and it might be hard to get him because they're going to 605 00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,159 rebuild and he could be a part of their future. But it sounds like 606 00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,639 he was a little bit disgruntled last year with playing time. However, they 607 00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:22,880 have a new head coach coming in with the Houston Rockets, Kenny Martins Jr. 608 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,480 He's still on his rookie deal and it's a little over two million dollars. 609 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:34,599 But somebody like that if you can't get John Collins and Atlanta is you 610 00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,639 know, like forever rumored to be a Clipper, luke warm on him. 611 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,840 However they feel about him, Maybe they're just waiting to blow the whole thing 612 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,639 up eventually. De Jante Murray gone, Trey hung gone, just restart. 613 00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:51,480 But if you can't get somebody like that, what about just a younger guy 614 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:57,760 who hasn't exactly fulfilled his promise yet. I don't think Obi Toppin has maxed 615 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,360 out his ability. I don't think Kenny Martins health either. No, they 616 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,199 don't really know what contract to give Obie because he's still He's been used sporadically 617 00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:08,039 and so I don't know if that'd be a fun time. A lot of 618 00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:12,000 people suspect in New York, and you talk to those guys over there. 619 00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:15,039 We both jumped on a podcast when the Clippers are taken on the Knicks. 620 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:17,559 Oh yeah, shout out Andrew Claudio. That was really fun, great Knicks 621 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:22,880 podcast. They believe part of the reason he hasn't played as much. It's 622 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,840 almost like a conspiracy with Obie topping to keep his value down so when they 623 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:31,239 lose Julius Randall they can can match whatever offer when he'll be a restrictive free 624 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,639 agent, which shouldn't be as high because nobody's seen him do much yet. 625 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,519 Sure, yeah, it's that's got to feel good to hear if you're him. 626 00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:43,239 That's just such a glaring issue, like on they don't want to play 627 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,480 me because I'm so good. That feels great. I'm the secret weapon. 628 00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:52,920 Guys. Yeah, this is great. Yeah. I don't know how about 629 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,119 expiring money, and this has been something people have talked about for a while. 630 00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,159 Drunken public Rosier would be fun. I'm fine with Rosie year. I 631 00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:04,280 don't know what we've really trained to get him now that we're I mean, 632 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,679 in this moment at sixty nine PM, I would assume you toss in the 633 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,760 thirtieth pick somehoward draft for the team, but Charlotte would be doing it to 634 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,960 get rid of a bloated contract if they did this, doesn't he have two 635 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,360 more years at least at a round twenty million? Let me so, maybe 636 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,599 Marcus is involved in that. You sweeten it with some second round picks or 637 00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:31,119 maybe the thirtieth pick he's got. So he's got twenty three this upcoming season, 638 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,440 basically twenty four point nine the season after that, and then a partially 639 00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:45,800 guaranteed twenty six and a half. It's only fully guaranteed twenty four million of 640 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:51,639 it's guaranteed if Charlotte plays in the second round of the playoffs and Rosier plays 641 00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:55,440 seventy games in any of the next so feels pretty gettable. But what's is 642 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,960 he twenty eight now, Tara Rosier. It feels like he's been the legal 643 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:07,960 lot longer than that twenty nine because he had that big playoff run and a 644 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,239 few years ago when they were calling him scary, it's Terry that. Yeah, 645 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,199 he reminds me a little bit of like a rich man's Reggie Jackson. 646 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:27,639 Athletic ability was his handle streaky, He can get to the basket, he 647 00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,639 can get hot, he can take over a ball game like we saw Reggie 648 00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:35,320 be so good when Kwhi Leonard was out during the twenty twenty one playoff run. 649 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,039 That's what Terry Rosier kind of looked for the Boston Celtics when they made 650 00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:44,639 that run. He's somebody that steps up and embraces the moment and apparently likes 651 00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:47,519 to play the villain or to play spoiler, because that Boston team wasn't expecting 652 00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:52,159 to do a lot and he was a big part of their success in that 653 00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:57,800 postseason. I like Terry Rosier, if you're talking about we're doubling down, 654 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,440 we're bringing two, one, three back. We have to find a way 655 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:07,639 to get incrementally better. This offseason. The future be damned. That's not 656 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,800 a bad option. I think, not bad. It's not bad, all 657 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,920 right, draft guy I want to talk about real quick. That's no slight 658 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,639 towards Reggie Jackson, but I do think Terry Rozier is a little bit more 659 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,719 of a talented player. And the Clippers got Reggie towards the end, very 660 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,840 end of his prime. You know, he already had the back issue coming 661 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:30,039 from Detroit. I don't think Terry Rozier has had any debilitating injuries and he's 662 00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:35,920 just about to turn twenty nine. I mean, look, because I'm fuck 663 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:44,159 he had. He's one of those guys that can have that almost irrational confidence 664 00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:46,079 where you believe you're the best guy on the court even though everybody knows you're 665 00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:52,119 not, which isn't a bad thing in the right situation. You still want 666 00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:54,599 him to be a team player, play within the offense, not get outside 667 00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:59,719 of himself too much. But guys who don't shy away from the moment, 668 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,280 embraced the spotlight when you're trying to win a championship. Never a bad thing 669 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,199 to add one more of them. So he's got a bunch of ankle sprains. 670 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,360 I mean, it's basketball. Hey, I don't like it. I 671 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,440 don't like Bill Way. What are you talking? I don't like it. 672 00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:17,559 I don't like ankle sprains, those things. Polog you got the medical on 673 00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:22,280 that. Why don't you get Brogden's wall, right? Don't do like that? 674 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:29,039 So prospect, I want to talk about guard prospect California, University of 675 00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:34,480 California, Los Angeles guard Amari Bailey, uh six to five again. He's 676 00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:38,280 nineteen years old, really good high school player. He was top ten US. 677 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,840 Kind of some crazy upside. But I don't know, what do you 678 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,440 think? Why not? I actually watched a little bit of Amri Bailey. 679 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,920 I like him. I figured he did a lot he had. I want 680 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,599 to say he played big when they lost both games in Vegas to I think 681 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,880 it was Maryland. I know they got the big against them. It was. 682 00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:05,559 Yeah, he had some big games against big opponents. He had a 683 00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:10,079 twenty four point game against Oregon State. He had sixteen against Cal. He 684 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:16,000 kind of faded towards the end of the regular season, but then he had 685 00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:22,119 some big games. In the Patch twelve tournament. He scored nineteen Wisconzaga. 686 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,840 Yeah, he had nineteen in their final game lost Againzaga, but he had 687 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:31,000 twenty six in the Patch twelve tournament against Colorado. He had nineteen against Arizona. 688 00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:37,719 He has a ton of untapped potential. And I love mccronin. I 689 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:43,000 love the foundation he gives players. I would be interested in somebody like him. 690 00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:46,039 For thirty nine three point shooter, I can shoot, yeah, And 691 00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:51,119 he has wiggle like he can get to the basket. He's crafty with his 692 00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:54,360 ability to get downhill. He's shifty. Oh, I don't like his free 693 00:51:54,360 --> 00:52:00,960 throw percentage, seventy percent from a line does not. He was just over 694 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,880 confident, you know, He's like, oh, it's too easy, guys, 695 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,159 sure, too easy. But yeah, I mean I had a low 696 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,599 pick. It's like, why not haven't learned from Xavier Moon even though he's 697 00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:15,000 much bigger than Xavier Moon. The other guy from a guy, Yeah, 698 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:19,360 the other guy that I don't know where he's going to end up going because 699 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:25,519 he had the season ending injury. Yeah, I'm thinking of Jalen Clark. 700 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,280 Oh, I believe I am who went out with. I believe he did 701 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:38,280 his achilles against Arizona. It was I'm trying to look up the injury here 702 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:45,679 in real time, but this is somebody who defended who would also get in 703 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:51,599 transition was death and transition, but he had then Achilles Tear one of their 704 00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:54,800 better players. I don't know if you have a second round pick or you 705 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,599 get in and buy another one that you don't take a flyer on somebody like 706 00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:04,519 Channels. I don't want us to buy a second round pick. It's free 707 00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:07,360 for us. Just not get out of here, I know, but like 708 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,960 let's just um, that'd be good. Yeah, And like the Clippers love 709 00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:17,360 how can I put this? The Clippers love a marketable player at lower ranges. 710 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,039 Scrub the Jay scrub pick was would be such a great story. I 711 00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:28,639 think that was partly what played into it. They picked up the Armenian sniper 712 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,159 for the Aguacaliente Clippers, so obviously a big kind of a pr play. 713 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:37,159 So like taken you see it, Like that would be great? Um yeah, 714 00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,639 I mean that's why they brought in Moses Brown, right, what what, 715 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,639 I'll tell you what I know he didn't play bad. It doesn't mean 716 00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:52,800 he should have been the backup center for the team. Jason Preston story. 717 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:58,079 Thank you Anthony C. In the chat. Someone's on my side. I'm 718 00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:01,239 not against you. I just wanted to bring up Moses Brown and get that 719 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:07,079 reaction. I mean, that's fair. Remember my legendary tweet with him next 720 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:10,320 to Kareem abdul Jabar. People said he wasn't tall. You proved them all 721 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,840 wrong. Man. All right, we had a we had a bunch more 722 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,760 picks until the Clippers go there seemed to be holding out of their pick, 723 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,400 which I'm saddened by. I would say, I'm a little bummed out. 724 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,320 We still have it. I don't think he bid they could trade it afterwards. 725 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,239 We've seen this stuff go down. When they got Cannard, it was 726 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:42,079 this weird Charlie Day like FBI board where you're just trying to piece things together. 727 00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:45,440 When they ended up trading Landry, shamm it. It didn't go down 728 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,480 I don't think right away as a trade. But then it came back around 729 00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:50,719 and they said, oh, we're gonna make this move now. So you 730 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,199 never know what could happen in the next couple of hours, regardless of if 731 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:58,159 they pick at thirty or trade before that. Yeah, that's a good call. 732 00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:02,639 U. Someone says, if this off season is the flap, do 733 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,519 we start the Michael Winger was the real brains behind the front office conversation. 734 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,679 I don't know if we start that conversation. I'm not going to start that 735 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,800 conversation. I'm not going to start Are you going to start that cover I'm 736 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,840 not going to start that conversation. We're not doing that. Just because he 737 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,800 was the protege of Sam Presty, you okay, see you with the thunder, 738 00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:25,119 So he has great pedigree coming from Sam Presty and then Lawrence Frank and 739 00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:29,440 the Washington Wizard. You're lucky to have him, But no, l Frank 740 00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,079 is the man. He won his Executive of the Year. I get offended 741 00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,320 when people give Maybe it's because I did the same thing and he lamb based 742 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,280 me a little bit forward. But when people give Jerry West too much credit 743 00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:45,719 and I did the same thing at his introductory press conference. Contrary to what 744 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,159 you'll see on Winning Time, Jerry West is a very humble man and doesn't 745 00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:55,480 like his way. Yeah. At his introductory press conference, I thought I 746 00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:59,480 had this brilliant question. I thought I was just going to be the star 747 00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:01,320 of the show. It was on NBA TV. I was like, I'll 748 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:07,159 give me the mic. I don't and I asked him mine too. He's 749 00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:13,639 coming over from Golden State. I said something to the effect of, is 750 00:56:13,679 --> 00:56:19,519 it almost like playing chess with yourself since you helped make the Golden State Warriors 751 00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:22,000 and now you're trying to find a way to beat them being with the Clippers 752 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:28,719 here and he just kind of playing yourself and you know you're giving me far 753 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,000 too much credit. Please don't do that. He wanted to give the credit 754 00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:37,480 to Bob Myers and the Golden State Warriors, even though he was allegedly the 755 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,280 guy that put his foot down like he did when it came when it came 756 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:45,000 to a drafting James Worthy with the Lakers to not trade Clay Thompson for Kevin 757 00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:50,280 Love when at the time Kevin Love was getting twenty and twelve with the Minnesota 758 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,800 Timberwolves and looked like he'd add a different element to their offense. And he 759 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,719 said, no, we have something special the Splash Brothers here. We're not 760 00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,679 going away from that. So, yeah, give credit where edited his due. 761 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,480 I think Lawrence Frank has been the right guy for the job, and 762 00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:07,119 he has proven it. It's just bad luck with injuries going on with the 763 00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:10,800 Clippers over and over again. Speaking of Jerry West, talked about that in 764 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,880 all his time in the game, he said this on the podcast Pee episode 765 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,840 two weeks ago, and all his time, he has never seen a team 766 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,920 more snake bit or cursed or whatever the jinx is that he has with the 767 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:29,440 Clippers, it's been it's been brutal. So you've seen a lot of basketball 768 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:36,519 Adam wildly defending Jerry West. We have a special guest drop in that we're 769 00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:38,679 going to get to after this quick commercial break. If you're watching on YouTube, 770 00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:42,599 it's not a real commercial break. I'm gonna introduce his guestle and go 771 00:57:42,639 --> 00:57:45,880 make a drink real quick. But if he adds have been too loud for 772 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,199 you, go ahead and turn him down, totally fine. But we have 773 00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:54,280 a special drop in guest coming in after his breaking three two? What is 774 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:59,119 going on? Clippers fans, welcome back and we are joined. Adam Oslin 775 00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:04,159 is here. I am Chuck Blockler. We are joyed by Joseph Fry Award 776 00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:08,639 retiree. Yeah. Do you believe I'm on the link he's getting He's on 777 00:58:08,679 --> 00:58:15,920 the links right now. Uh tie in between Canasta and running for the retirement 778 00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:20,440 community, being bored in my household. Did you hit it big with your 779 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,880 startup? Company. Well, why are you retiring? I don't get it. 780 00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:24,840 Um, that is a fair question. Actual, Well, I'm gonna 781 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:31,320 get to that reason. Rant. Yeah. The reason I'm here is because 782 00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:37,519 I heard to the grape Vine that Chuck is trying to take my spot on 783 00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:40,639 clip set, and so now I have to take his spot here on clips 784 00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:44,760 and Debb. I think that's a fair trade. Yeah, I'm out of 785 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:50,320 here, mix that Drake's over. Actually, am I gonna do that? 786 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,159 Are you gonna do your right? Or are you wait a second? I'm 787 00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:55,440 gonna wait a second. Adam can fill me in on Jilsep and Boys. 788 00:58:57,079 --> 00:59:02,480 Y'all don't know DM all the time now talking about those. We've been having 789 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:08,400 our own podcast in two hundred and forty character mode for some time now. 790 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,119 Joseph, it's good to have you here on Cliffs and Dip. I was 791 00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:14,840 wondering when this was going to happen. I think we had you early on 792 00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:17,719 in season back way back in season one. This is episode one of season 793 00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:21,920 two. Okay, okay, you are one of our first guests on the 794 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,519 podcast. But how are you doing? I'm doing Okay, you know you'll 795 00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:30,199 hear exactly how I'm doing in terms of the Clippers in a minute, Okay, 796 00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:31,559 and what have you guys been what have you guys been up to? 797 00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:35,480 What have you guys been talking about? Just talking about college players we don't 798 00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:38,320 know that much about because I think the draft is a complete crapshoot And I've 799 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,960 been saying this for years, and maybe it makes me lazier, lets me 800 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,000 affords me the right to not pay attention to college basketball as much because it 801 00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:52,360 is such a mine field. And people tend to think every draft night that 802 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,400 the top thirty players, all of them are going to be All Stars. 803 00:59:55,519 --> 00:59:59,719 And it's not true at all. The top ten are not all going to 804 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,039 be All Stars. Seventy percent of them are not going to be All Stars. 805 01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:06,559 Yet people get their hopes up, and I understand hopes race eternal. 806 01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:09,079 It's a good thing. Yeah, I saw I saw a clip earlier today 807 01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:16,679 on Twitter reminding me that someone described Mo Bamba as a hybrid of Anthony Davis 808 01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:22,480 and Joel Embiid. Is that not what he's become? I don't think. 809 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,440 I don't think it's crazy that the Lakers are shopping him. They had to, 810 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,199 right Davis? Is I know so crazy? Right? Um? But 811 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:35,400 yeah, no, my one of my least favorite episodes to do on clip 812 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,920 set all the time was the Draft because I was so woefully unprepared. Brian 813 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,920 and I one time we watched the Draft together and I think at some point 814 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,039 we looked at each other and we're like, I don't think we know who 815 01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:49,480 any of these people are, Like, there's no reason for us to be 816 01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:55,199 doing this episode right now, zero expertise. Yeah exactly, Um, but 817 01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:00,760 uh, yeah, man, I mean the draft is always a crazy because 818 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:07,440 the NBA off season is almost more exciting than the actual regular season. So 819 01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:15,559 for how casuals, Yeah, that's right for casuals like me, because they're 820 01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:22,679 going, well, Um, I have someone saying that Brogden, he's expecting 821 01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:27,719 Brogden to have an insane season. I also expect that I do. Yeah, 822 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,440 Yeah, it's gonna be rough. He's gonna play, He's gonna play 823 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:37,760 all eighty two. And oh, the Heat just took a UCLA favorite. 824 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,480 They took your guy, Joseph Dude, they took Highmaid eighteen. Yeah, 825 01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:49,880 so apparently my promo was was killing it in the off season workouts and all 826 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,840 the all the buzz has been about High Maid going to the to the Heat, 827 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:58,280 so happy that he's there, but also at the same time distraught that 828 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,719 he will not be a Clipper. I wanted him so bad at thirty. 829 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,320 I mean, you got to return the jersey though, That's right, I 830 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,920 pre ordered it. Maybe they trade form after Heat culture, you know, 831 01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:10,559 and then he becomes a superstar with the Clippers. You never know, he 832 01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:15,760 still laid back. He's from California's from Camaro, right, yeah, all 833 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,760 right, So you wanted to rant, this is your time, take as 834 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,239 long as you want, as long as it's not over like twenty minutes. 835 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,880 I just I just want to say it's gonna be twenty five. So I 836 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:34,559 just want to say that the Clippers have really truly disappointed me. And maybe 837 01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:39,800 this is just a matter of you know, pg's value is not high enough. 838 01:02:40,239 --> 01:02:45,079 I just want to say that. Obviously, Paul George won my heart 839 01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:51,199 in twenty twenty one. I was like the captain of the Paul George Army 840 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,400 all twenty I was a soldier like I wasn't just I was high ranking in 841 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,239 the Paul George Army. Okay for a while. Yeah, he won your 842 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,679 heart, but Reggie Jackson holds your heart. Yeah, exactly. Still if 843 01:03:04,719 --> 01:03:08,159 the Clippers don't do something drastic with this team, and I mean I mean 844 01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:15,760 like drastic with this team. They are complacent cowards that do not deserve any 845 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,559 of our respect. Okay, Adam, you can set this one out. 846 01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:25,719 I know you're you're you're a team employee. We're absolutely I just I cannot 847 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:32,480 believe that we are at this place where they are going to run it back. 848 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,400 I know they tried to do the Brogden deal. People thought it was 849 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,400 an overpay. Those people are out of their minds. Okay, I just 850 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:45,159 I don't understand how they can look at what happened last year and decide, 851 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:52,760 Okay, everything is fine, let's just do this again. Look, they 852 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,079 are trying to get rid of Marcus Morris. Yeah, okay, cool, 853 01:03:55,679 --> 01:04:00,639 let's attach a pick to Marcus Marks who said everything was fine. Lawrence Frank 854 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,559 came out and said, you got to respect the regular season. Yeah, 855 01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:06,920 guess what if they bring the same team back, that's not going to happen. 856 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:14,599 How do you have a season is disappointing as what happened last year and 857 01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:21,079 decide let's just run it back. Are they running it back? Because you 858 01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:28,639 assume they're keeping Kawhi and Paul George that alone and trains the deadline and had 859 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,280 you know, a few new players, so it's not exactly running it back. 860 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,039 Okay, all right, okay, law, I hear what you're saying, 861 01:04:33,239 --> 01:04:36,239 but I just want to say, great minds, think a like Joseph. 862 01:04:36,239 --> 01:04:40,679 I don't know where you're at. Look, here's the deal. Here's 863 01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:44,360 the deal. I understand that training thought. They change the team at the 864 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,039 deadline, whatever, blah blah blah blah blah. The core is the same, 865 01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:50,159 Okay. Tie is still the coach, Paul George and Choir are still 866 01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:56,159 the stars, okay, and the supporting cast is basically the same. Right, 867 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,920 that's very good. I like that, Adam Laglin, that's really good. 868 01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:05,159 Will you're here, does it? It doesn't make any sense to me 869 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:13,119 for them not to be aggressively shopping things like for this to be my thing. 870 01:05:13,519 --> 01:05:20,480 Do you know Paul George should be on the market. I didn't know. 871 01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:30,079 He's not like unless we were. Seems to be that either A his 872 01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:34,079 value is low, which is whatever. I don't care, but like to 873 01:05:34,119 --> 01:05:39,840 me, it's the discussions were just that would go against your argument. But 874 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,639 if the discussions were just Portland and the Knicks. You're not aggressively shopping Paul 875 01:05:44,719 --> 01:05:47,159 George like I'd be on the phone with the hot I'd be on the on 876 01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:51,519 the phone with literally every team in the league trying to find a way to 877 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:57,840 reshuffle the deck around Kauai. Look, I get it that they were rumbling 878 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,079 with a hard heart reset, so like, you're not talking like a full 879 01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:04,239 tear down. No, my favorite trade is obviously trading Paul George to Portland 880 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:10,679 for Scoot and whatever they have Scoot. Now, if they're willing to part 881 01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:15,840 with Scoot, I'm all I will literally push Lawrence Frank out of the way 882 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,920 on the phone call and I will say yes emphatically, this is shameful. 883 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:26,199 Give me the phone, Give me the phone. Tred Redden currently has you 884 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,880 in a headlock. Though you may have gotten out of the way, but 885 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,679 Mark is coming to kick you in the ass. That's I'm fighting, bro. 886 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,239 I'm a black belt. I was an instructor. Okay, Jerry West 887 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,719 through shack up against the wall. You want that dad strength, you want 888 01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:42,760 that look, old man, Jerry West needs to get out of the way. 889 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:47,480 Okay, I'm in targe Mark all right, Yeah, Mark uses six 890 01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:51,440 six. That's a big man. That's a big man. But you know, 891 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:57,239 I gotta get inside next to him like you didn't know. Yeah, 892 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:02,719 I'm getting in. You're not gonna win by Jilson, respect, damn it, 893 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:10,519 You're winning by decision. But continue. All I'm saying is the Clippers 894 01:07:10,519 --> 01:07:15,719 need to be doing whatever they can to maximize this window around Kawai, regardless 895 01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:20,320 of the reports about the culture and Kawai as a star or whatever. We 896 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:26,559 saw in a game and a half or two games that Kawai can just lift 897 01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:30,360 a team that's not very good over a team that's better than there like we 898 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,639 saw it now. Yeah, absolutely, And all they need to do is 899 01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:42,880 is whatever they can to get rid of this old Rickety team that is placating 900 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:50,159 a star that gave up on the season because Drew Holiday picked him up full 901 01:07:50,199 --> 01:07:56,480 court. There's an all star god forbid. Next season, they run it 902 01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:01,559 back and og and and Obi picks him up in the half court and he 903 01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:06,920 asks to come off the bench like they have to do something drastic. I'm 904 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:12,639 just la sick. Did that happen in the twenty twenty one playoffs where Paul 905 01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:15,760 George was getting picked up full of court and just said no, Moss. 906 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,640 But that's exactly what I'm talking about, right, Like, so maybe he's 907 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,399 a regular season thing, I know, listen to me, bro, it's 908 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:25,359 it's a mindset thing. This has been what has been trailing Paul George for 909 01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:28,520 his entire career. I love PG. I think he's one of the most 910 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,960 talented players in the league. But the biggest issue has been and to me, 911 01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:35,319 the biggest failure is that we didn't win in twenty twenty one. So 912 01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:39,279 Paul George finally figured out that that's how you have to play to win. 913 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,479 The fact that they didn't win, that he wasn't able to get over the 914 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:48,319 hump by himself doing that convinced him that he needs someone like Russell Westbrook to 915 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:51,560 take him over the top. Like the fact that this team is going to 916 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:59,159 run back a squad that needed Russell Westbrook, he who totally tanked the offense 917 01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:01,399 when he was on the floor with Kawai and Paul George. They needed him 918 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:06,159 to quote unquote save the season. That is the most pathetic thing I've ever 919 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:12,960 heard ever. And the fact that it's like daid for those of you that 920 01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:21,079 they are going to decide that Russ is the answer is totally insane. But 921 01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:25,079 now we're got to bring us back. We don't need veteran players, by 922 01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:28,079 the way, Willie Bowen, we don't need veteran players. We have all 923 01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:35,840 We have two vets there. It is the AARP AARP. I agree that 924 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:42,319 we still don't know exactly how Russ would look next to a healthy Kawhi and 925 01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:46,399 Paul. We do. I don't want any of m we do tag games 926 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,439 were on five. No, get out of here, Bro, it's four 927 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,479 and five. He can't fucking shoot. Nobody respects him on the outside. 928 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:59,680 He's operating. Both stars operated in the for the entirety of the two on 929 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,439 three era. The offense has been incredible when those two stars are on the 930 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,199 floor. When Russ was on the floor with them, it was the worst 931 01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:10,640 offense in the league. What was it like, one hundred minutis? I 932 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:16,520 don't care, Bro, it's it's it's sample sized. Sample size matters until 933 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,840 it doesn't. Okay, it's unbelievable. I thought he played pretty darned well 934 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,960 against Phoenix. Yeah, and guess what one hundred what was the offensive ringing? 935 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,520 One hundred and five? Uh, let me look it up. And 936 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,000 we also lost them five. Yeah, they they should have You're right, 937 01:10:32,039 --> 01:10:34,640 they should have beat them without Kawhi Leonard. That's Russ's fault. That is 938 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,600 a great point that that's not what I say, That's not what you just 939 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:45,119 agreed with. The still lost Okay, still matter context wise how they lost 940 01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:49,479 dam Cam Whitmore is about to be gone. Oh wow, oh Man Cam 941 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:58,000 Reddish Cam Whitmore. Who is Brandon Podsmski? No idea. But Robert Fall 942 01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:03,039 was upset that he got drafted, of course. Yeah. I was like, 943 01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:06,039 so he's a Polish guy, went to Michigan. Uh, that's his 944 01:11:06,119 --> 01:11:11,720 kryptonite. He's always positive about Michigan. Yeah, that's actually a very good 945 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,039 call. But he could be down about everything but Michigan. Joseph, what 946 01:11:15,039 --> 01:11:17,479 what is the rant? All four? What are you trying to say? 947 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:25,199 What needs to be given some realistic train Here's what I wanted picking at thirty 948 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,359 during a what commercial is going to be the next commercial to be an MVP 949 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,000 drafted on. I'm gonna call it Chris Paul State Farm commercial. For some 950 01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:35,600 reason. Oh, I'm calling it. John Hammer said He's commercial. It's 951 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,159 gonna be that, And I think we're gonna we got this. So who's 952 01:11:39,159 --> 01:11:42,520 getting drafted. Hey, you're the mine reader with this office and how much 953 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,920 they're shopping guys, d I don't know my my my pick at thirty is 954 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,479 gone. Okay, when twelve spots too soon? Who want? You? 955 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:54,880 Were way off? Yeah? How to layoff? He was mocked so the 956 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,560 Clippers, and they did bring him in. Um, what do I want 957 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,600 you? Honestly, you did ten mock draft every single I did. Fourteen 958 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:06,920 actually makes Um, here's the deal. If I were the Clippers, GM 959 01:12:08,039 --> 01:12:11,840 and I got a lot of pushback in our group chat about this. Um. 960 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,560 If I were the Clippers GM, our group chat, um, everybody 961 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,079 but Adams in And I'm sorry, Adam, we'll get you in there eventually. 962 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,279 All Right, it's a waiting list, Jerry, what's really negative? 963 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,359 I'm sorry, Um, it's very negative. I try and bring the positivity. 964 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:33,119 It's like an eye an iPhone line hammering the phone of Landry Fields. 965 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:40,239 The Hawks, GM and I would be trying to tantalize them with trading in 966 01:12:40,319 --> 01:12:45,880 their depth GM trade Oh okay, yeah, yeah, their depth for Paul 967 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,119 George. So once they've already been on record saying that they want to well, 968 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:56,000 look, he's probably got Don Collins potentially. Okay, the larger trade 969 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000 that I thought, I've included a TPB. We obviously can't do that anymore. 970 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,439 But it's Paul J. Murray, It's yours, Johntay Murray, John 971 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:12,600 Collins and DeAndre Hunter. Okay. And then you call Portland and you offer 972 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:19,159 John Collins and whoever you draft thirtieth for them for Anthreny Simmons. You get 973 01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:25,079 younger, you get more athletic, and you still surround Kawhi with a competitive 974 01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:27,439 team. Do you have it open in your trade machine right now? I 975 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,319 think we could share it if people know I have it. Um, I 976 01:13:30,359 --> 01:13:34,159 have it. It's there, it's downloaded. But that's what I would do. 977 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:40,239 Raid machine has been warmed up, so I think I would keep Collins 978 01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:44,720 over Simmons, who I do like. Anthony Simmons is a dead eye shooter 979 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,399 with athleticism he is, and a dead defender. But that's why you bring 980 01:13:49,399 --> 01:13:54,640 in someone like DeAndre Hunter, UM and John Tay Murray. You start them 981 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,680 all together, and Kawhi has a bunch of young guys to run around and 982 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,399 do shit for him. You keep Darren's. I don't hate it. They're 983 01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:06,720 all don't think it's that realistic. They're all the executive assistant They're all executive 984 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:13,239 assistants. Kawai has four executive assistants. He makes all Just get Kawai to 985 01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:15,960 the finish line. All you gotta do, get into the finish line, 986 01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:20,800 the big meeting. Don't knock it out from there. Yeah, I agree, 987 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:27,239 there's definitely something to that. I just get Kawhi healthy in a playoff 988 01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:29,760 series, and you got a chance. You got a lot of youth, 989 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,560 you got a lot of athleticism. Hits the term, the term, Joseph, 990 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,600 you and I say all the time, innings eaters. Yes, we 991 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,840 need tell you good. I don't usually like cross sports metaphors, but innings 992 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,319 eaters is exactly what the Clippers need. You know, who's an innings eater 993 01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:48,920 that we haven't talked about has been available for trade? Colin Sexton. I'm 994 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,399 I'm in okay. It would need to be a little bit biggall and on 995 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:58,800 Colin Sexton. The problem is, I don't know as much as I love 996 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:03,239 Colin Sexton because he's crazy, and I think the Clippers need more guys who 997 01:15:03,279 --> 01:15:11,600 are crazy. Absolutely yeah, exactly crazy person in a good way. But 998 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,039 you didn't want in a bad way. Okay, Well that's that's different. 999 01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:19,880 That's different. I'm talking on the court. I'm we're talking within the rectangle. 1000 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:30,479 We're talking, yeah, exactly inbounds. Crazy crazy. I just I 1001 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:36,439 don't know if I am willing to sink the future asset costs that it would 1002 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:41,800 take to get Collin sextent because I have a feeling that Danny Ainge would ask 1003 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,800 for twenty eight and thirty, and I just don't know if I'm doing both 1004 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:51,880 those picks for Collin Sexton. Yeah, twenty twenty eight. I was like, 1005 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:58,560 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's big. Now that that's 1006 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,359 a fair concern. I wouldn't be trade two first rounds especially, Yeah, 1007 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:11,039 go ahead. No, But if we're gonna give quiet pg these, yes, 1008 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,520 isn't it four for two twenty? I think so, yeah, it's 1009 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,880 four for two twenty four pegs what he's at his next contract If we're giving 1010 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:27,760 him four for two twenty and things continue to track the same way the way, 1011 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,479 Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Just historically, if things continue to 1012 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,319 do what they're doing, the direction, my hand is going, yeah, 1013 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:42,960 chart really bad. That's the rough college two majors. So those picks become 1014 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,239 Yeah, I think I think I'm with you, Adam. You have a 1015 01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:53,880 look of disgust on your face. No, I like Collin Sexton. Adam 1016 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:59,000 just took two ear plugs out. He's got a relationship with Kauai. I 1017 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,880 mean true, I don't hate the move. I just find it unrealistic when 1018 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,720 people complain about why aren't the Clippers doing this, and it's like, well, 1019 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,880 first of all, it would have to be completed for you to know 1020 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:12,239 that they were doing that. I just want more solution driven stuff that is 1021 01:17:12,279 --> 01:17:15,319 realistic. And I'm not saying it's totally crazy what you're saying, but it's 1022 01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:19,199 a little bit fantasy. It's it's a little par session. I hear you, 1023 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,439 because totally you haven't heard. But the Hawks have been on record about 1024 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:30,319 trying to clear the clutter for guys like aj Griffin Um and Siddique Bay who 1025 01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:33,399 they acquired who they really like. Right, so can you absorb gay hive 1026 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:39,119 is so strong on Twitter, by the way, right and traded group. 1027 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,399 But what I'm saying is is could you that's that to me is a realistic 1028 01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:44,720 trade partner Because you're saying, Okay, look I'm going to give you a 1029 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,760 start to pair with Trey that works a little bit better than de John Tay 1030 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,840 Murray. Okay, just a little bit, right, and you're going to 1031 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,680 have more minutes for guys that you have coming up that you're going to have 1032 01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,439 to pay. They've got a lot of future money. Johndre Hunter already signed 1033 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,319 an extension, John Collins signed an extension, and John to Murray's up for 1034 01:18:04,359 --> 01:18:08,520 an extension. Right, this is also part of a money play. Right, 1035 01:18:09,119 --> 01:18:12,439 you give them PG for two years. Yeah, exactly. You give 1036 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,439 them PG for two years. They can decide whether or not they want to 1037 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,600 extend him after this year. They have an easy decision, right, yes 1038 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,640 or no. If it's no, they play it out, They let them 1039 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,119 go. They keep their young guys, they keep kind of the machine turning 1040 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,000 another another trade I want to ask you about, would you do okay, 1041 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:36,039 because you want solutions the Knicks were mentioned, would you do Emmanuel quickly Josh 1042 01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:43,319 Hart and Julius Randall for Paul George? Yeah, I don't want. I 1043 01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:45,560 don't know. I don't know if I want to dal this team got it. 1044 01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:50,439 I'd rather him than than r J. Barrett. Well, sure, 1045 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:57,600 r J. Barrett not a great basketball player, bad even worth. Okay, 1046 01:18:54,960 --> 01:19:00,199 if the option is a kick in the nuts or a kick and the 1047 01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:01,880 ship, I'll take the kick in the shin Like That's what I feel like. 1048 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,399 That argue, What if they add their future they're sorry, they're extra 1049 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:12,119 picks next year? What are their extra picks next year? They have like 1050 01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:19,000 a protected Washington pick, a Detroit pick, and a Dallas pick all for 1051 01:19:19,119 --> 01:19:24,640 next year. So they trade none of their own picks. You get three 1052 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,960 picks. One might not convey, that's the Washington pick. I think, 1053 01:19:28,319 --> 01:19:31,439 sure, um, but you get two first round picks next year. So 1054 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:39,279 the two first round picks plus some maybe third Julius Randall quickly. Josh Hart 1055 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,439 Josh Hart for Paul George, we'd have to add something else, which would 1056 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,399 be one of our older wings. That money works, That money works, 1057 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:54,600 That money works dependent you still have all your stuff. I would maybe consider 1058 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,720 that trade. You still have all your other stuff, Adam, you can 1059 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,520 work another deal, thoughts. I consider it. Josh Hard has had injury 1060 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:09,560 issues, but yeah, I consider it. We love we love Terrence ban 1061 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,880 right, what if two what if we had two Terrence Mans then they both 1062 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:18,960 couldn't play it exactly and they both play fifteen minutes a game exactly. So 1063 01:20:19,079 --> 01:20:23,439 that's the thing I kind of want to talk about, is like, does 1064 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,800 your frustration with this team become a lot less of terispan just ends up playing 1065 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,359 like thirty minutes a game next year? No, not a Frus starts, 1066 01:20:30,399 --> 01:20:32,560 Not a Frus comes back and starts. No, what if it's the gore 1067 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:38,640 to hot start. No, even if you don't like if Russ is back 1068 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:46,760 on this team, they've failed this season because they have capitulated to a losing 1069 01:20:47,039 --> 01:20:53,399 attitude. The sort the saurus over here, Yes, that's true. I 1070 01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,439 am getting my masters. I just finished my last class of my master the 1071 01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,119 masters of the Saurus. That's right, not for us. What you finish 1072 01:21:00,199 --> 01:21:03,920 your wit. You finish your last class, your class. Yeah, I 1073 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,960 have to do my thesis, so I don't have my masters yet. I 1074 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,279 mean still a big congrabs. Way to go. I am hammered right now 1075 01:21:11,319 --> 01:21:15,359 to celebrate. So absolutely, Wait did you finish it today? Uh? 1076 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,119 Yeah, I turned in my last thing yesterday and then like I finished my 1077 01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:21,439 last assignment today. Damn, I want to wear that tassel to the side. 1078 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:26,960 Let's get come on the calf in the air. Man elaborate on this 1079 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:32,199 inflammatory comment about Russell Westbrook, and they have committed to the whole reason we 1080 01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:36,039 got Paul we got Russell Westbrook is because Paul George didn't like to be picked 1081 01:21:36,119 --> 01:21:41,479 up full court by Drew Holiday. You've brought that up. Yeah, he 1082 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:45,439 said it. He actually did. I didn't make it. He said it 1083 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,199 on the podcast podcast with Paul George. Okay, quick, tangent people. 1084 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:53,399 Many people have asked me why I hate the Paul George podcast, And it's 1085 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,359 not that I hate the content of the Paul George cod past, although sometimes 1086 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,159 I do hate the content of the Paul George podcast. Correct. The reason 1087 01:22:00,199 --> 01:22:06,479 that I hate it as a thing is he puts his foot in his mouth. 1088 01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:12,399 Some people just do that. Zero, I got news for you. 1089 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:17,000 You talk long enough, you start to contradict yourself. He doesn't talk podcast 1090 01:22:17,039 --> 01:22:23,960 for four years. They never contradicted myself once till right now. Adam. 1091 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,119 That's the issue. He doesn't talk very much, and he contradicts him. 1092 01:22:27,159 --> 01:22:30,640 Yes he does. Before that, we're the driver's seats, Spinyard. He 1093 01:22:31,319 --> 01:22:34,880 talks. He can't spin Yard. The man doesn't know a thing about Yard. 1094 01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:39,520 I never appreciated Day his life. It doesn't know where it comes from. 1095 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,520 My issue is he he's a put your foot in the mouth. It 1096 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,520 happens to some people, yes, and it happens to Paul George, and 1097 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:51,039 I just he's been through it enough. He's such a good player, he's 1098 01:22:51,119 --> 01:22:59,279 so underrated, he's so fantastic as he's so good, but he just I 1099 01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:02,439 don't think can present the image that the public wants to see you. Paul 1100 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,439 George, correct, I just could give a shit about that compared to what 1101 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:11,479 he actually did during the here's the deal, Adoph went down. But here's 1102 01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,479 the deal, Adam. Since then, what he has said has matched up 1103 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,520 with what he has done. Okay, the man, so he's no longer 1104 01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:29,399 himself. Listen, the man told us that his his little ego, Okay, 1105 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,079 was bruised because Drew Holiday picked him up full court, which meant he 1106 01:23:33,199 --> 01:23:38,520 was no longer willing to do what the team needed him to do to succeed. 1107 01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:43,720 So he said, come and get my security blanket, which is Russell 1108 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:48,880 Westbrook while he was still on another team. Adam, First of all, 1109 01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:53,600 I think a lot of people in Clipper Nation would say, we don't want 1110 01:23:53,640 --> 01:24:00,199 the ball in his hands. All that situations. Looking at the twenty twenty 1111 01:24:00,239 --> 01:24:04,439 one playoffs proved that the offense works best when the ball is in his hands 1112 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,359 and he wants it in his hands. When he had his Reggie at that 1113 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,600 level, it worked. You're right, okay, And so maybe instead of 1114 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,359 Bad, instead of Adam, instead of bringing back in the worst volume three 1115 01:24:17,399 --> 01:24:21,199 point shooter in the history of the NBA, maybe we should bring someone who 1116 01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:25,359 can fucking shoot for him to have off of him. I don't know. 1117 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,920 I just saw him shoot thirty six percent as a Clipper. It seemed like 1118 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,880 he was I'm gonna hang I'm gonna hang up. I'm gonna hang out because 1119 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:38,079 this is insane. Lee Gaverage. That's so that he didn't shoot thirty six 1120 01:24:38,079 --> 01:24:41,039 percent? Are you going to claim small sample size on that? But you 1121 01:24:41,039 --> 01:24:43,720 wouldn't do it with how many minutes he played next to PG and Kauai. 1122 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,119 Let me look it up at him. See, this is the thing you 1123 01:24:48,199 --> 01:24:53,239 look up. I'm here to moderate between these two. You look up the 1124 01:24:53,279 --> 01:24:55,199 stats. That's the issue you bring us out. You look it up. 1125 01:24:55,239 --> 01:24:59,600 That's totally fair. I'm on board. I'm positive I've been peaking. A 1126 01:25:00,039 --> 01:25:05,479 search department is clutch hold on April twenty five, three for eighteen, the 1127 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:10,800 second time he shot at least three for eighteen in the playoff thirty one for 1128 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,640 six, one for six from three. He's one negative. He was a 1129 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:21,760 negative in the majority of those playoff games. Hold I'm sorry, yeah, 1130 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:30,920 because the negative every minute says here that the offense was bad when he was 1131 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,880 on the four. Okay, so you know he shot thirty five percent thirty 1132 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,000 five no, no, no, point three five six. You know you'd 1133 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:46,520 be rounding up for anyone else out less attempts, less attempts than he had 1134 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:53,520 in LA on the Lakers, and shoot, he shot twenty nine point six 1135 01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,560 percent. And let's see the year before that, twenty nine point eight percent 1136 01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,960 and thirty one point five percent, twenty five point eight percent, twenty nine 1137 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:10,439 percent, thirty four point twenty. That won't change with the Clippers. I 1138 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,159 was told that many times, Joseph, you said it too, and then 1139 01:26:13,159 --> 01:26:15,600 he shot thirty six percent from three. Do you believe that he'll do it 1140 01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:21,199 next year? No? No, I'm asking Adam. We know that thirty 1141 01:26:21,239 --> 01:26:26,479 three percent or above at low volume, it's fine. No, what is 1142 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,800 not? It's not because him, Adam ideal, It's bad it's bad for 1143 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:38,720 the tions that are realistic and Golan can be in the series on the season, 1144 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,520 we're talking about three small samples, right, We're going to talk about 1145 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,680 how the offense was bad and small samples. Over his entire season, he 1146 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,359 shot thirty one point one percent. What does it matter how he looked with 1147 01:26:48,399 --> 01:26:53,520 the Lakers when you look like a completely different player. But the problem that 1148 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,479 I have with with this point, Adam is when he moved to the bench 1149 01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:01,520 for the Lakers, he was productive. Oh, I will say I would 1150 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,520 love to have Russ run the second unit. I said, that's the best 1151 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:09,520 spot for him. I agree with you. So because Russell Westbrook had the 1152 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:14,880 heat, like the heater of all like shooting aberrations that has ever happened in 1153 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,600 this whole, entire universe. It's just weird because you're gonna say that happened 1154 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:21,800 too, and but Toomb had it happened. Reggie could actually had fourhand, 1155 01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:27,479 right, Reggie could actually shoot shooter hand but he could shoot. Wasn't shooting 1156 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,479 forty three percent from three? Yeah, but he wasn't shooting twenty eight percent 1157 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:36,079 from three for his career? Yes, it won high voluntary six. I 1158 01:27:36,119 --> 01:27:40,760 mean he went up like eight percent from its all time high. Reggie Jackson 1159 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:46,119 from three okay, but Reggie can actually shoot russk Reggie is higher. The 1160 01:27:46,199 --> 01:27:48,880 floor is higher for Reggie. Yes, Mike Conley would have been a better 1161 01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:54,079 pairing. I would have given my left lung for Mike Conley. Reggie is 1162 01:27:54,079 --> 01:27:57,760 a thirty five percent three blog shooter. I don't want to say the other 1163 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,279 thing, which is the phrase. I didn't want to say that how I 1164 01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:08,039 used lung lungs too much, but lung transplant too much, way too much. 1165 01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:14,319 Russ is Russ even coming back, I think for the whole season we 1166 01:28:14,359 --> 01:28:15,920 will maybe see more of what Joss have talking about. I don't know if 1167 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:20,680 it's the extreme of what Joseph's talking about, but history is not necessarily on 1168 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:28,600 our side with back. No of his three point performance is what I'm saying. 1169 01:28:29,239 --> 01:28:30,640 It's like the Roco thing. I would love it if Roco would shoot 1170 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:38,920 what did you shoot on corner threes? Like? That would be fantastic. 1171 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,800 Even half of that would be great. But well then I'll get you the 1172 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,520 corner three point numbers right now. No Roco's were in SAE. Roco was 1173 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,239 like unconscious from three point in the corner. You know, Russ has has 1174 01:28:49,279 --> 01:28:54,680 some good years on corner trees. He's had like one an I've looked a 1175 01:28:55,520 --> 01:29:00,479 couple. He's at two, which is technically a whether or not Russ works, 1176 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,479 to me, isn't fully dependent on whether or not he can hit threes, 1177 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:10,520 but it's dependent more about coach lou and how it uses them and the 1178 01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:15,560 fair point, no matter what, Tyler's lawris a lot and Roses Brown vote 1179 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,800 no matter what, take bad ideas. If Russ is on the team, 1180 01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:25,319 their ceiling is lowered, no matter what, no matter what, because having 1181 01:29:25,359 --> 01:29:30,359 a guy that is that turnover prone and that negative as a shooter is going 1182 01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,600 to put the stars in a phone both It's it's clear as day. If 1183 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:39,520 you watched them operate with him on the floor, it was bad. I 1184 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,439 saw him score one hundred and seventy five points one game with Russell on the 1185 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,439 floor. I don't know, Okay, to be fair, we also lost 1186 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,199 that well we are talking about defense right now, which they were actually much 1187 01:29:49,239 --> 01:29:54,680 better that group with Russell on the floord defensively the one can you really take 1188 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,720 a lot from that sample when defensive yes, it were ridiculously good. That 1189 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,359 the two and three connects with Adam you know who Russ is as a player? 1190 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,359 I do. You know who he is, but he's not in the 1191 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:09,199 league of seventy five years. You know what defenses are gonna do. Yes, 1192 01:30:09,239 --> 01:30:13,760 you can take that aware. And I'm also aware that he played differently 1193 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,960 as a Clipper than he did as a Like he set five screens, Bro, 1194 01:30:17,119 --> 01:30:20,399 that doesn't mean he's a good shooter. He set more screens in his 1195 01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:24,720 first game and he did with said Lakers old season long. Like, I 1196 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,199 get it. I understand the optimism, but at the same time, dude, 1197 01:30:28,399 --> 01:30:30,039 you know who he is as a player. Real coach got forty point 1198 01:30:30,119 --> 01:30:34,159 nine percent from the corners this season, No the season when he went crazy, 1199 01:30:35,279 --> 01:30:39,680 forty point nine this season, so still pretty crazy. Like Joseph, 1200 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,680 what's your solution? Because I think don't have a bring up player. That 1201 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,159 makes it harder for your stars back. But so we were just talking about 1202 01:30:46,199 --> 01:30:49,479 this, who's the starting point next year? Realistically we all want it to 1203 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,600 maybe be Terence Man, But who do you think? You know what I'm 1204 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:56,279 saying. If it's not Russ, who's Kylie roll Man? I don't know. 1205 01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:03,279 I mean Terry Rosier probably Okay, we talked about him. Yeah, 1206 01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:08,039 that rich Man's Reggie Jackson. You mustle love him. I love I've loved 1207 01:31:08,119 --> 01:31:11,119 Terry Rosier for a long time. I loved what he did off the Two 1208 01:31:11,159 --> 01:31:13,960 Stars in Boston. He's a guy who's proved that he can shoot off the 1209 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,399 ball. He's got a little bit of length, he's got a little bit 1210 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:20,680 of downhill stuff. Um, any any defense like that's that's all that matter 1211 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:25,960 drives. That's a fair call. So that's a realistic move that could actually 1212 01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:33,800 happen. Yeah, I think I think trading Eric Gordon and Um Brandon Boston 1213 01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:42,560 or whatever for I know the future star of this future bro Um. But 1214 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,520 if you could, if you could turn that into Terry Rozier, I think 1215 01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,920 that's that's a pretty pretty much of a no brainer. That's a nice little 1216 01:31:49,039 --> 01:31:53,159 trade situation. Hey, people can say I was wrong about John Wall, 1217 01:31:53,279 --> 01:31:56,439 but I was right about Can we talk about how much you were wrong about 1218 01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,960 John Wall for a second, talk about how much you were wrong about John 1219 01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,920 and Joseph. If you play both, you can't be wrong. No, 1220 01:32:03,119 --> 01:32:08,439 Listen, I came on your show. No, I was nice to you, 1221 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,560 But the whole time I knew how much that wasn't gonna work? Okay, 1222 01:32:14,079 --> 01:32:16,920 terrible, terrible fit. Can we stop? Can we stop bringing point 1223 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,159 guards that can't fucking shoot on this team? Never what happened, buddy, 1224 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:25,640 literally never gonna happen. If there was that perfect guy that was attainable and 1225 01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,880 that easy to get, I think they would have got him. Oh. 1226 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,720 Someone asked question, why couldn't Boston give us Marcus Smart because we don't have 1227 01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,720 any Well, I mean it would have cost a future pick, for sure, 1228 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,880 would you have I would have dealt a future pick for Marcus Smart. 1229 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,159 I probably would have dealt a future pick. He's awfer for Marcus Smart writing 1230 01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:45,600 DPO, He's perfect, would be great on this clips team. I was 1231 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:50,880 surprised you win for that. It was a crazy price. What would you 1232 01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:57,720 have offered, Adam, Adam? Would you go first? Would you go 1233 01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,880 first round pick next year or whatever, twenty two first for Marcus Smart and 1234 01:33:02,119 --> 01:33:04,840 whatever you need to make the salary work. I probably would have done it. 1235 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,520 He still, I think would you have done it if it was Terrence? 1236 01:33:11,119 --> 01:33:14,279 Yeah? Because I would because Terrence isn't gonna play, which I don't. 1237 01:33:14,399 --> 01:33:16,800 I'm not saying he shouldn't play. It's the Roco thing. I just 1238 01:33:17,279 --> 01:33:21,279 seeing what they got. I don't think it would have taken Terrence. I'm 1239 01:33:21,319 --> 01:33:25,319 saying, if that was the price, would you have done Terrence Man? 1240 01:33:25,399 --> 01:33:30,920 Number thirty and then a twenty twenty eight first round pick's probably not. I 1241 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:36,000 think I would have done it. Marcus Smart, He's I don't know. 1242 01:33:36,199 --> 01:33:42,039 Yeah, that's a guy who I feel like fits really well next to perfect 1243 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:47,279 And as we've said, innings either yep, good defender. I'd be nice, 1244 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:54,840 a little bit some spark. So are you totally opposed to what Russell 1245 01:33:54,840 --> 01:34:00,720 Westbrook brings in the regular season? Dude? Yes, he said, yes, 1246 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:08,640 yes, because here's here's here's any fundamental problem with that, Right, 1247 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:15,760 here's the fundamental problem. If Russell Westbrook is what your team needs, you 1248 01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:21,680 need a new team. If they cannot, if they cannot get up on 1249 01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:26,439 their own, then there needs to be drastic changes. And that's exactly why 1250 01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:30,119 I feel the way that I feel, because if Russell Westbrook actually saved the 1251 01:34:30,159 --> 01:34:33,359 season, and guess what, I believe time when he says that, right, 1252 01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:38,960 I believe him because the answer wasn't on the basketball court, it was 1253 01:34:39,239 --> 01:34:44,319 off of it. Russ saved the season off the court, and the fact 1254 01:34:44,359 --> 01:34:50,960 that that's true means that this team needs to be blown up, because that's 1255 01:34:51,039 --> 01:34:57,000 pathetic. I mean that's good just feting they're missing something. I don't know 1256 01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,880 if they have to blow it all up. It's where the PG trade, 1257 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,119 right, because like trading PG isn't blowing it up. That's but it's it's 1258 01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:09,319 it's shape. It's shaking things up enough to where people are like, Okay, 1259 01:35:09,359 --> 01:35:16,439 it's time, um to do something different. What changed for you after 1260 01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:21,399 twenty twenty one, with the second half and through the playoffs, it felt 1261 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:29,960 like the vibes were right, So it honestly was it was really early. 1262 01:35:30,079 --> 01:35:31,920 If I'm gonna be real with you, Um, you know, as as 1263 01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,119 you guys know, like I was there every game. I came to every 1264 01:35:35,119 --> 01:35:38,359 game this season, you know, when it was a home game, and 1265 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,520 I tried to get the vibes and like all that s other stuff, right, 1266 01:35:42,199 --> 01:35:49,239 um, and early this year they just didn't care. And to me, 1267 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:54,960 as said the same thing to me, I think that's some information on 1268 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:59,600 that, um, But like there is there is. There is a a 1269 01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,960 pro problem that I had from the beginning of the season, which was all 1270 01:36:02,279 --> 01:36:11,800 off season long they sold us this bill of goods, right that they're determined, 1271 01:36:12,399 --> 01:36:15,920 they're working, they had their year off, this is it. They're 1272 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:21,640 locked in all this bullshit, right, and then they come out and they 1273 01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:25,119 just don't care. Kawai. Oh, I'm gonna come off the bench now, 1274 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,840 right, Oh, I can't do this. And then he hurts himself 1275 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,439 because he was too big coming in from camp um and and that's a fact, 1276 01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,399 you know, that's where the injury came from. And they just I'm 1277 01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:41,800 just I'm speculating, like the dude was at least thirty five pounds too heavy, 1278 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,239 and once he slimmed down, he looked like he lost thirty five pounds. 1279 01:36:45,279 --> 01:36:50,199 I don't think. Well, I wasn't on. I wasn't was it. 1280 01:36:50,399 --> 01:36:55,239 You saw the videos of him coming, he looked like he was built 1281 01:36:55,279 --> 01:36:58,479 like a fucking freight train. Yeah, and all of a sudden he looked 1282 01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,800 like Kawai again. And always it's putting up thirty points a night, crazy, 1283 01:37:01,159 --> 01:37:04,079 he always comes. He came in just like that. In twenty twenty 1284 01:37:04,079 --> 01:37:06,880 one, I remember people said the same thing. Look at Kawa's bulked up, 1285 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:12,800 he's hooked up. He does that all the time. This was a 1286 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,359 different degree because of his injury. Anyway, they came in with a bad 1287 01:37:15,359 --> 01:37:19,960 attitude, they came in not caring, and then they continued to not give 1288 01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:30,000 a shit the entire season. So I honestly I thought that maybe for a 1289 01:37:30,039 --> 01:37:35,039 minute when they finally jettisoned John Wall, that the security blanket BS was over 1290 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:42,039 and that the Stars were going to be the Stars. And then they lose 1291 01:37:42,119 --> 01:37:47,960 to the Bucks because Paul George was uncomfortable handling the ball. And then he 1292 01:37:48,039 --> 01:37:55,800 says publicly, not says, demands publicly that Russell Westbrook consider coming to the 1293 01:37:55,800 --> 01:38:01,239 Clippers so that he can he can feel comfortable being off the ball. This 1294 01:38:01,359 --> 01:38:05,479 is the same player that said that the reason why the Doc Rivers iteration of 1295 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,600 the Clippers didn't work is because he didn't have the ball in his hands enough. 1296 01:38:10,279 --> 01:38:14,359 And now he says his game because his game was not coming off pindowns 1297 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,000 and coming off a screens. Now he's going to say that his game is 1298 01:38:17,039 --> 01:38:20,960 also not handling the ball. So what is your game, Paul? What 1299 01:38:21,159 --> 01:38:25,640 is it? Is it on the bench? Is it not playing basketball? 1300 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:33,520 Do you just not play basketball? Thanks Duce times, I am I told 1301 01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:40,560 you it was going to give spicy. Oh my god, that is hilarious. 1302 01:38:41,159 --> 01:38:44,880 Hey, you've been getting love too for those of you not watching Odd 1303 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:50,520 at Clippers podcast on YouTube. Times it's just very funny. I don't yeh, 1304 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:54,239 that's great. Actually, I love that. I love that duce times, 1305 01:38:54,359 --> 01:38:58,640 I am a moron. This is just me like unhinged because I retired. 1306 01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:00,199 Um, but like dude, I mean, how are you going to 1307 01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:02,760 flip flop like that? You demand the ball in your hands, You get 1308 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,560 the ball in your hands, one good defender picks you up full court, 1309 01:39:06,399 --> 01:39:10,479 and now you need your security blanket. I mean he gave an example. 1310 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:14,279 Are we not blowing it out of proportion? Just a little true holiday comments? 1311 01:39:14,399 --> 01:39:15,960 Are you not taking that and running with it a little too much? 1312 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:24,279 Maybe? Like he probably did the same thing within the next change the season 1313 01:39:25,039 --> 01:39:30,399 to change the season? Ye nation of things it was to start the season, 1314 01:39:30,399 --> 01:39:34,720 wouldn't did they finally look good when Terrence Man got into the starting lineup. 1315 01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:41,439 I don't care about the competition. I've heard that that that lazy thing 1316 01:39:43,039 --> 01:39:45,000 brought up. Law brought up a good point about that, which I don't 1317 01:39:45,039 --> 01:39:48,720 think that makes necessarily what you're saying not true, Joseph. But Law brought 1318 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:54,840 up the point that that was when PG and Choir were playing playoff minutes like 1319 01:39:55,039 --> 01:39:58,319 they were playing a hire minutes though, which helps everyone look better. And 1320 01:39:58,359 --> 01:40:04,119 then what happened when they played playoff minutes with Russ didn't go as well. 1321 01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:09,960 Their defense was amazing. That's about the advanced stats saying. Okay, I'm 1322 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,920 just you can't say it was all bad or the defense looked that good. 1323 01:40:13,119 --> 01:40:18,800 They were still a five net rating. Huh so the worst? Okay, 1324 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:25,920 so every okay, listen, you don't even know the paron Jordan's broven eleven 1325 01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:32,760 eleven players played with Kwai and Paul George this season. Okay, I feel 1326 01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:42,960 only four am I wrong had offensive ratings that were lower than what would be 1327 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:48,560 in like the top five. Absolutely what uh let's see so like one sixteen 1328 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:53,159 point nine is the lowest among what I'm looking at, and that was Eric 1329 01:40:53,199 --> 01:40:58,880 Gordon, Okay, Paul George with Marcus Moore two one three with Marcus Morris 1330 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,000 one eighteen point eight, two on three with Reggie Jackson one nineteen two and 1331 01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:06,399 three with Nico PA Team Nico PA Twum one nineteen point five two one three 1332 01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:12,359 was Zoo one nineteen point six two on three with Luke one twenty two point 1333 01:41:12,359 --> 01:41:19,239 two two on three with Terrence Man one hundred and twenty six point one. 1334 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:24,560 Now your defense. Okay, well that doesn't fit the narrative. We can 1335 01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,199 do that too. No, we can do that, tape can we can 1336 01:41:27,279 --> 01:41:30,359 We can do net rating two. But here's the deal. It's a plus 1337 01:41:30,399 --> 01:41:36,560 five net right one one ten point six with Mason defense one ten point No, 1338 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:43,600 this is offense one ten point five with Russ the norm minutes, we're 1339 01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,640 terrible two one or nine point two, John raw one oh seven point one. 1340 01:41:47,239 --> 01:41:56,119 No, like Trio had ever been that bad until this season in halven 1341 01:41:56,159 --> 01:42:01,159 minutes. Come on, dude, how do you feel about those? How 1342 01:42:01,199 --> 01:42:04,119 do doesn't matter about how do you feel about those Luke minutes? How did 1343 01:42:04,119 --> 01:42:11,720 you feel about those Luke minutes? Canard? M hm when this season? 1344 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,079 How did you feel about the two on three Luke minutes? This season? 1345 01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:17,359 They were sporadic? Sean Holmes was going to Dallas? Oh shit, no 1346 01:42:17,399 --> 01:42:21,159 way, Um, I want the Clippers to make a move. I'm sorry. 1347 01:42:21,159 --> 01:42:25,039 I feel like Luke was putting some really bad positions this season. Hey, 1348 01:42:25,239 --> 01:42:28,079 hey, Adam, Adam, Adam, how many minutes. How many 1349 01:42:28,079 --> 01:42:31,840 minutes do you think Russ, Paul, George, and Kauai played. I 1350 01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:36,560 said one hundred earlier, so okay, two hundred and thirty. Okay, 1351 01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,880 okay, let's let's sort by. I don't think either y'all is gonna win 1352 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:47,840 the other games. So it was the same those eleven, one, two, 1353 01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:54,680 three Lakers are going to train right in the middle about as many minutes 1354 01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:59,840 as they played with Nico Beatum. So it's a significant enough sample size for 1355 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:04,439 you. So then the defense is also significant with Russ those two what was 1356 01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:08,399 the defensive rating? It was like one oh five. It was really good. 1357 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:14,840 That's tight. So there's two sides of the story. Which one do 1358 01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:19,039 we believe the offense because I know who Russell doesn't off only the offensive part. 1359 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:24,279 I agree with you, I said from the beginning. We still don't 1360 01:43:24,319 --> 01:43:29,399 really know if that could ever work, but I do think they forced it. 1361 01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,479 There are good things with Russell Westbrook, especially in the regular season, 1362 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,159 and if he comes back for three point eight million, it is tough to 1363 01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:41,359 find better value than that. The problem is Adam, if he's coming back, 1364 01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:48,119 it's because Paul needs him right with his psychoanalysis, and sorry, and 1365 01:43:48,399 --> 01:43:51,119 get big. It's in the playoffs. He is, dude. I think 1366 01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:55,680 it's a lot of Look how smart I am as a Clipper fan. I'm 1367 01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,399 not saying you, Joseph, but I think a lot of people like to 1368 01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,159 do this and be like, how and you have that mentality, how can 1369 01:44:01,159 --> 01:44:06,199 you be this type of player? Look at him contradict himself. It's like, 1370 01:44:06,399 --> 01:44:10,760 Yeah, you pick apart pretty much any player that talks for a bit 1371 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,239 and has a podcast, it's going to happen a lot. You pick apart 1372 01:44:13,279 --> 01:44:15,560 any of us, it's going to happen a lot. No, I think 1373 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:21,920 I'd be good. Okay, maybe Chuck not at all. Two times I 1374 01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:27,800 really appreciate it. I have been a Clipper fan my whole life. Um, 1375 01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:32,359 and he's got a Danning Maning Bro, Dude, Danning Manning, Um, 1376 01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:39,760 Clipper start. Every team is making moves. Sorry all I'm saying Clippers 1377 01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,079 aren't doing anything. I'm on record, I'm muchure to have Westbrook coming off 1378 01:44:43,079 --> 01:44:47,000 the bench for record, Bro, And I don't think the Terrence man stuff 1379 01:44:47,079 --> 01:44:53,319 was that credible. I think three of those gamesis flaming me. That day 1380 01:44:53,319 --> 01:44:57,039 when Adam One on record saying rush to come off the bench. I was 1381 01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:00,640 only had three keys. I do it with the media. That was a 1382 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:06,600 big day for all of us. Look Terrence Man four record over time against 1383 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:11,319 New York and they almost blew two games against Atlanta and Chicago. I'm not 1384 01:45:11,399 --> 01:45:14,640 saying I don't want Terrence Man as the starter. I do think when people 1385 01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:16,600 just throw out look ten and four, everything was fine. It was not 1386 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:21,199 fine. Still go into the granular level with those games. It wasn't. 1387 01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:26,760 All I'm saying is to go to the granular level. The offense had been 1388 01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:30,840 in the toilet the entire season. The entire season, no matter who was 1389 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:35,399 in the floor, the offense was in the toilet. Terrence Man gets in, 1390 01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:43,880 started into the starting lineup, offense takes off more Mans for PG and 1391 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,920 kwai. Oh wait, let's talk to Terence. Let's talk to Terrence Man. 1392 01:45:46,039 --> 01:45:51,399 Thing because we're keeping thirty. I don't know if we're gonna be able 1393 01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:58,880 to trade Marcus Morris for whatever. Um Terence Man. There's no world in 1394 01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,479 which he starts right. I don't mean that from a should he. I 1395 01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:05,399 don't mean that from maybe. I think it depends on what they do there 1396 01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:10,640 for position. I think if they if they go to Kauai and they say, 1397 01:46:11,359 --> 01:46:15,000 you're going to be our starting four, right, you don't have to 1398 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,199 bulk up whatever. We understand that we don't actually have put on forty five 1399 01:46:19,279 --> 01:46:27,920 more pounds. No, I'll say I think there's there's there's a possibility that 1400 01:46:28,319 --> 01:46:31,520 Terrence starts pretty much no matter what, you slide two and three down a 1401 01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:35,079 position and whoever it is that starts at the point. You know, whether 1402 01:46:35,119 --> 01:46:41,199 it's Russ who's probably most likely at this point or whatever, that Terrence could 1403 01:46:41,199 --> 01:46:45,520 start at the two. Adam, how do you feel with Terrence at the 1404 01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,640 two? Because do it? Can't we even convince go why to slide down 1405 01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,319 on the fourt I don't know if they have. I don't mean that in 1406 01:46:49,319 --> 01:46:54,119 a weird way, but if that's the most likely spot that Terrence starts, 1407 01:46:54,159 --> 01:46:58,000 as long as he starts, that's a good thing. Yeah, four minutes 1408 01:46:58,039 --> 01:47:00,319 overall starting about the five, haven't take the jump and it shows a belief 1409 01:47:00,399 --> 01:47:04,560 in him once again, which I'm still perplexed about the fact that they closed 1410 01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:09,199 with him in the twenty one playoffs in big moments and this season they went 1411 01:47:09,199 --> 01:47:12,800 away from him. That is hard to write. Even crack thirty minutes in 1412 01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,399 the playoffs and it was twenty three a game, right, Chuck, let 1413 01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:20,600 me look, but I'm pretty sure it was the same amount as when I 1414 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:28,399 think out his numbers didn't change there are I said last year, even with 1415 01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,159 all of the bs that went on, that the Clippers did have a formula 1416 01:47:32,399 --> 01:47:36,960 to win, like to really win. Obviously, the injuries, as they 1417 01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,359 always do, kind of read their ugly heads and chow away that formula. 1418 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:45,720 But I also felt like it was minutes per game last year. Yeah, 1419 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,079 wow, I knew. I just don't. I don't think that they ever 1420 01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:51,920 built habits. You ask, like when I was out on Paul George or 1421 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:58,720 whatever. It's the whole thing, right, they never built good habits. 1422 01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:03,800 And it felt like the difference between twenty and twenty one was ties ability to 1423 01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:08,960 get everybody pulling in the same direction. Right. It finally felt like everybody 1424 01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,680 was together. It took a long time. That twenty one season was also 1425 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,640 up and down, but by the end of the season they kind of raw 1426 01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,279 pulling in the same direction and they kind of had all figured it out. 1427 01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:20,479 Well. They had the Atlanta game where something was born out that night and 1428 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:26,640 theirff that's right, Yeah, exactly. I think every I think we've done. 1429 01:48:27,319 --> 01:48:30,319 You've done so many episodes of the show, and I think Adams worked 1430 01:48:30,319 --> 01:48:36,000 that into every single good Adam, I love that, Joseph. If you 1431 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,359 didn't come on, I wouldn't been able to do it. Man Clutch on 1432 01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:45,479 your part. Thanks. I just think I think that this season. The 1433 01:48:45,079 --> 01:48:47,680 reason why I have such a sour taste in my mouth and the reason why 1434 01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:54,079 I went such obviously you know, hot to eat huge changes to be made 1435 01:48:54,439 --> 01:49:04,199 sure is that this group specifically kind of proved to us that they didn't have 1436 01:49:04,399 --> 01:49:11,439 it together anymore. Ty didn't have it, Stars didn't have it. The 1437 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:15,439 role players were fed up. Everybody's a little older, like to me. 1438 01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:19,239 The reason why running it back is such a big deal, even even if 1439 01:49:19,239 --> 01:49:23,880 it comes with Rus or whatever. And let's say Russ has another great run 1440 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:28,119 as a Clipper and like the regular season is great, is like they're not 1441 01:49:28,319 --> 01:49:34,199 building the right habits as a team no matter what. Having said that, 1442 01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,159 you can keep going. But I just want to know, did you think 1443 01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:41,119 they were going to beat Phoenix after Game one in the series? Oh? 1444 01:49:41,239 --> 01:49:45,960 Absolutely, because I'm a fan. But even if you take the emotions, 1445 01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:49,319 if you take the emotions out of it. Did it not look like, 1446 01:49:49,399 --> 01:49:54,000 Okay, Kauwhai's back. They got the best player in the series, and 1447 01:49:54,039 --> 01:49:58,239 they can win this even without Paul George. Obvious magic is there. They 1448 01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:00,720 can pull it off. Obviously. To me, it was more about I 1449 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:04,840 think Phoenix are frauds, right, that's number one. Hey, I'm the 1450 01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:09,319 pretty eminent choir. Hey they think they are too. They had to get 1451 01:50:09,359 --> 01:50:14,680 Beal, Yeah, the pre eminent Chris Ball hat like whatever. Right. 1452 01:50:15,399 --> 01:50:21,359 I thought I was fueled by my hate more than I was by my hope. 1453 01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:25,119 Right. I didn't look at this Clipper team and was like, oh, 1454 01:50:25,199 --> 01:50:28,159 yeah, I dude, we're winning the title. The whole year I 1455 01:50:28,199 --> 01:50:30,680 thought if they won the title, they were going to back their way into 1456 01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:35,560 it, Like it wasn't gonna be Oh, the Clippers are like this dominant 1457 01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:40,279 team. It was gonna be like they kind of fell into a round where 1458 01:50:40,279 --> 01:50:45,319 they had an advantageous matchup and then they won a title. So which has 1459 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:49,159 Watching watching Game one, I was like, oh my god, this Phoenix 1460 01:50:49,159 --> 01:50:55,399 team really isn't who everybody thought they were. I was right, That's how 1461 01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:58,840 I felt. The best failing of the world when you look at that eye 1462 01:50:59,039 --> 01:51:02,119 and say I was run. Yeah, no credit to Clippers look like they 1463 01:51:02,159 --> 01:51:05,359 flipped a switch at all, because it sure seemed like the intensity was there. 1464 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:10,439 I know which exists the Kawai. I know who Kawhi is. I 1465 01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:15,560 will say the only player mooning Kawhi, though I was the only coach to 1466 01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,239 actually flip a switches quiet because we've seen him do it. I mean, 1467 01:51:17,279 --> 01:51:21,640 Norm had forty in game three. Russ looked, he had the amazing play 1468 01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:26,640 that out of bounds play on Booker the block in game one, like everybody 1469 01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:30,079 the offense the entire first half. Like we can talk about his defense, 1470 01:51:30,119 --> 01:51:32,119 that's fine, but like he was terrible in that first half. Terrible. 1471 01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,760 I agree he had bad halves. I don't know if he put together a 1472 01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:40,439 complete game, but no, outside of Kawhi, I can't say, really, 1473 01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:44,239 any Clipper didn't that scene at least well Norm the one the one game 1474 01:51:45,239 --> 01:51:48,359 didn't some showtime handles or something, I'd give a complete game. Norm tried 1475 01:51:48,399 --> 01:51:53,920 to win this game five, okay, Not Norm plumbly plum dog Millionaire tried 1476 01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,159 to win his game five okay, but was like, well I might be 1477 01:51:56,159 --> 01:51:59,960 going home. We love not going home there. Yeah, big switch flip. 1478 01:52:00,199 --> 01:52:03,399 Yeah, Big Plumb finally woke up. Game five. Yeah, we 1479 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:09,800 got to un leash big blog. Go on though about your thoughts about a 1480 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,960 couple more picks. Clippers were going to see this game changing thirtieth pick. 1481 01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:17,800 We're gonna win brow. I hope we're gonna talk about that pick for five 1482 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:21,039 minutes and then we're gonna end the stream. By the way, I should 1483 01:52:21,079 --> 01:52:27,960 have gotten off. I'm sorry everybody to get in too much. No, 1484 01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,840 I just think I think I think this group has proven them it's stale, 1485 01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:40,560 and that's why I want something big, right is they have basically shown that 1486 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,479 they are willing to be complacent, and I think that's kind of top down 1487 01:52:45,359 --> 01:52:48,560 um marketing wise. Yeah, they re used the damn playoffs stuff, that's 1488 01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,800 what well. Yeah, the playoff shirts were from last year's slogan, which 1489 01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:56,880 I thought was very funny. I am bro all hands Wait is it all 1490 01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:00,640 hands or no quarters? Given? All or nothing? What do we Yeah? 1491 01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,600 I know it was all it was all convoluted. I just they topped 1492 01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:10,079 down. If they just run it back, which again no guarantee, this 1493 01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:13,479 could all look really stupid, like whatever, Maybe they listen to this and 1494 01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:19,199 they're motivated if they run it back, they're just complacent because they're worried about 1495 01:53:19,239 --> 01:53:26,600 opening the arena instead of worried about when I was worried about that. But 1496 01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:31,840 that that permeates, right, And I think this feels really simplistic, but 1497 01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:36,000 like, if you're going to look at the slogans and everything they did in 1498 01:53:36,039 --> 01:53:43,279 that first year of two one three, that not working I think really did 1499 01:53:43,359 --> 01:53:49,560 them into service and has made them kind of gun shy about looking stupid again. 1500 01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:56,159 Because if if they had won in twenty nine twenty twenty, which I 1501 01:53:56,159 --> 01:54:00,439 am convinced they would have had COVID not happened, they would have looked like 1502 01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:05,640 the coolest, like the greatest marketing team. All of it would have looked 1503 01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:12,720 awesome. But because they lost in the way that they lost, there's this 1504 01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:20,560 stain about taking risks now in the organization, and I think that that has 1505 01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:30,439 stuck, and that's kind of been like my biggest gripe. Yeah, you 1506 01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:36,319 think they're taking a risk if they keep this group together. So yeah, 1507 01:54:36,399 --> 01:54:44,359 Adam wins, So yeah, the biggest risk of all is almost keeping this 1508 01:54:44,399 --> 01:54:50,199 group together. I honestly, this season was frustrating on many levels, so 1509 01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:56,399 I get where Joseph is coming from. I just I'm also still looking at 1510 01:54:56,439 --> 01:55:00,279 it. You say things have gotten stale. I'm still looking at at it 1511 01:55:00,319 --> 01:55:03,960 as I see that to a point. But maybe we're making too much of 1512 01:55:04,039 --> 01:55:09,560 one season and it could have easily been covered up had they gotten past the 1513 01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:13,880 first round and played a competitive series against the Denver Nuggets, and then we're 1514 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:17,640 saying, Okay, this team, they're still not far away. I just 1515 01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:21,079 I don't think that that's true. And the reason why I don't think that's 1516 01:55:21,079 --> 01:55:25,880 true is like, winning first round series can't be good enough, right, 1517 01:55:26,119 --> 01:55:30,920 And I think that my core principle as a fan don't understand in that position. 1518 01:55:30,119 --> 01:55:32,439 This is a straw man. What I'm saying, you know, what 1519 01:55:32,479 --> 01:55:38,119 I'm saying is he's like, what you're talking about, right, is the 1520 01:55:38,159 --> 01:55:42,399 fact that if they had beat Phoenix, right, which everybody predicted they wouldn't 1521 01:55:42,399 --> 01:55:45,159 win. Let's say they do that and then they played seven games against Denver, 1522 01:55:45,359 --> 01:55:48,119 which nobody probably would have predicted. Anyway, A couple of people in 1523 01:55:48,239 --> 01:55:50,880 ESPN probably would have picked the Clippers of Wayne and paulsouthing whatever. Like. 1524 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:55,760 We can talk about all that, but to me, you have to have 1525 01:55:55,800 --> 01:56:00,920 a championship mindset from day one through the end of the Sea season. What 1526 01:56:00,159 --> 01:56:04,720 is that when when you put together a team like this and when you take 1527 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:08,920 the risk that they did to get Paul George and Kauai that they did, 1528 01:56:10,079 --> 01:56:15,560 anything short of a championship is a failure and you have to move that way. 1529 01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:19,000 And what does a championship mindset? Me and Joseph when you say that, 1530 01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:25,560 when you look at everything that happened CrossFit and streetwear, that's what PG 1531 01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:32,279 needs to talk He only talks about the grinds. All he talks about as 1532 01:56:32,279 --> 01:56:39,039 a grind. You know what I mean by that, Adam is this team 1533 01:56:39,479 --> 01:56:46,640 had every ability to come into the last season with a chip on their shoulder, 1534 01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:50,520 right they lost the season of Kauai. PG got hurt. They didn't 1535 01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:57,600 really get um, you know, a run in last year's playoffs all that 1536 01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:02,239 stuff, and they came out and they just didn't care. And it looked 1537 01:57:02,239 --> 01:57:06,560 like that to night one. It looked like that against the Lakers. Yes, 1538 01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,000 I don't think it looked like that against the Lakers is the first game 1539 01:57:12,039 --> 01:57:14,119 I came out in the media. They went to a spot and hit a 1540 01:57:14,199 --> 01:57:15,840 jumper. We can talk, we can talk about a game one whatever. 1541 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:18,520 They always get up to the Lakers no matter what. Even in this season 1542 01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,119 where they didn't play well, they got up every game for the Lakers. 1543 01:57:21,199 --> 01:57:25,800 Right, you get up for the Lakers, they do get it for the 1544 01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:30,600 Lakers for sure. Would you categorize the first week of the season as a 1545 01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:34,319 team that was Look, Tyler literally came out and told us they weren't ready 1546 01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:41,840 for the beginning of the season. Well, I came out and said in 1547 01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:45,760 a postgame press conference. What like We asked him, what is your biggest 1548 01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:53,159 concern? He said, We're not ready. You think that's a championship mindset. 1549 01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:59,560 I think what he was talking about more so is I don't remember if 1550 01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:04,039 that I went out. I mean, it kind of rails that championship mindset. 1551 01:58:04,359 --> 01:58:09,960 You lose the guy that you thought was coming back and everything was going 1552 01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,119 to be all good, and then a weekend they lose Kawhi. It just 1553 01:58:13,199 --> 01:58:16,319 seems like it's natural that, Yeah, you might lose some of that championship 1554 01:58:16,359 --> 01:58:20,560 mindset, of that focus. Look, and there's nothing they could do about 1555 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:25,319 that. What could they do about that Kawai injury? Well, there's a 1556 01:58:25,319 --> 01:58:30,600 lot that could have done on the quay injury. I get them on the 1557 01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,600 staff. What are we waiting for? I just well, no, not 1558 01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,399 even like making it matter. I think that they handled it. They handled 1559 01:58:35,399 --> 01:58:41,079 it partly, okay, regardless of not playing it's a problem. All I'm 1560 01:58:41,079 --> 01:58:45,840 saying is that the Clippers did not attack the season the way that they should 1561 01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:50,319 have. And looking at a group that didn't do that and saying yeah, 1562 01:58:50,359 --> 01:58:55,600 that's good enough is what I'm trying to avoid. And that's what I'm talking 1563 01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,720 about in terms of championship mindset and all that other stuff. Well, I 1564 01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:02,039 am nowhere near saying that's good enough or saying that a first round went over 1565 01:59:02,079 --> 01:59:06,760 the Phoenix Suns would have made it okay. I just think when when, 1566 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:12,640 when we are now this far into this build, right, is it a 1567 01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,239 build at this point? Because it feels bill it is. We built it. 1568 01:59:15,239 --> 01:59:18,479 It's built. It is a structure. Now like that is far into 1569 01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:24,079 it, we're doing some some refabs. Yeah, like you can't. You 1570 01:59:24,119 --> 01:59:31,680 can't look back and say that this is okay, like what happened last year 1571 01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:38,479 in any other like like any other system is not okay. You're saying if 1572 01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:44,920 they bring back Kawai and Paul George they're complicitness, say it's just those two 1573 01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,239 because I don't think it's like bringing back Kawai and Paul George that that's not 1574 01:59:47,279 --> 01:59:50,039 necessarily something you could make it. You could make the argument that that's okay 1575 01:59:50,039 --> 01:59:53,439 as long as you shuffle everything around them. Yeah, yeah, because we 1576 01:59:53,479 --> 01:59:58,439 obviously we all I think we all agree here they need some different power forwards 1577 01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:03,000 other than the combination right now Morris, which they've already tried to trade. 1578 02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:08,479 Right, But who are you using of saying that's okay? Then every say 1579 02:00:09,399 --> 02:00:14,840 everybody the proverbium there's an off season happens, Lawrence Ranks, the front office 1580 02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:17,279 would be made, the coach. I understand that, But here's what are 1581 02:00:17,279 --> 02:00:23,079 they saying it's okay? Adam? Do you think that any other franchise would 1582 02:00:23,079 --> 02:00:28,880 make zero drastic changes after a season like last year? You're you're like October, 1583 02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:31,560 Joseph, it's not the off season started, Adam. Second, Would 1584 02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:34,319 they keep their coach, would they keep their front office, would they keep 1585 02:00:34,319 --> 02:00:40,199 their stars, would they keep their supporting cast? Do you think that that's 1586 02:00:40,239 --> 02:00:43,960 what would happen in any other situation after the season that the Clippers just had 1587 02:00:45,039 --> 02:00:46,880 no And I don't know if the Clippers are doing that either is the point, 1588 02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:51,680 Joseph, you're saying, you're all condemning them for an off season that 1589 02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:57,000 hasn't happened yet. That's ridiculous. You're saying, they're saying it's okay by 1590 02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,720 the moves that they've made this offseason when the off season hasn't start. The 1591 02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,399 Clippers don't move in silence like everybody says, and there hasn't been enough noise 1592 02:01:03,439 --> 02:01:06,720 about shaking it up. How much is enough for you? How how much 1593 02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:12,880 do you need? And the fact that if there's two teams that did talk 1594 02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:18,319 to them about Paul George, to your point earlier, you want more talk 1595 02:01:18,359 --> 02:01:24,119 about Paul George on the clips. If there's two teams that have already talked 1596 02:01:24,119 --> 02:01:28,000 about him, then other teams know he's available and would be calling like they 1597 02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:31,279 don't have to raise the flag. That's saying we're okay with trading Paul George, 1598 02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:34,319 like we're not going to know. How much is scuttle butt as you 1599 02:01:34,319 --> 02:01:39,279 would say, Chuck is going on? Everyone should about Adam. You're right, 1600 02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:42,880 and I have absolutely made a nemesis out of duce times. I mean, 1601 02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:45,520 this guy has just given me the business in these comments. You are 1602 02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:51,159 so right, and Chill I told I told Chuck when I texted him that 1603 02:01:51,239 --> 02:01:54,600 I was just going to come on here and rant. Okay, so you 1604 02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:58,439 have to be fair, Adam. I just like this smart guy, and 1605 02:01:58,439 --> 02:02:01,279 you already offered solutions. I'm just I'm just playing the other side of it. 1606 02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:04,600 Let me do my bit. It's my turn. Okay, I'm doing 1607 02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:11,239 my skip right now. Let me do my bit. That is one of 1608 02:02:11,239 --> 02:02:15,399 the greatest things ever he said. It was my turd. God, God, 1609 02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:19,800 he sucked. God he sucked. But he's fantastic. Like, let 1610 02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:26,000 me do my skip. I know a characters ratings when I have rational conversations 1611 02:02:26,039 --> 02:02:28,960 all the time. There's about to be four more minutes in the Clippers Pick. 1612 02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:35,079 By the way, we got another nine hours of this. Did it 1613 02:02:35,159 --> 02:02:39,399 go down with the last three hours without another case? As dime mountain dew? 1614 02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:47,439 Sorry? Getting intel, guys, hold on, you're getting some intel? 1615 02:02:48,199 --> 02:02:51,760 Well, I got sources, b am. I being drafted. Yeah, 1616 02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:58,600 that's right, Wow, classic Clippers pickin Indiana. Then I'm going to 1617 02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:04,359 Denver. Let's yeah. Oh all right, Clippers are on the clock. 1618 02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:12,760 Man, man, we're about to change the damn franchise, y'all, this 1619 02:03:13,039 --> 02:03:15,079 is You're gonna have to tell me who it is because I don't have it 1620 02:03:15,199 --> 02:03:21,800 on Joe's rap. If they are in win now mode, regardless, if 1621 02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:27,920 they move Paul George, they should probably just trade the pick, right, 1622 02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:35,359 Yeah, you don't need this guy. I don't mean that it's a disrespect, 1623 02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:40,079 but he's just not going to play for a team that's trying to win 1624 02:03:40,119 --> 02:03:43,479 a championship. Yeah, there are too many There are too many players ahead 1625 02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:46,159 of them, right, Like there was there was a lot of um a 1626 02:03:46,319 --> 02:03:50,399 kind of push back on like including a mirror, and it's like a mirror 1627 02:03:50,399 --> 02:03:54,239 didn't play. And when he did play, he wasn't great. Like he's 1628 02:03:54,239 --> 02:03:57,600 a twenty six year old guy, Like it's not have you ever heard of 1629 02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:02,119 January twenty twenty one, you freaking idiot. I was in love with him 1630 02:04:02,199 --> 02:04:09,039 and I clamored for him to play, but he didn't, Right, I 1631 02:04:09,199 --> 02:04:14,800 was surprised. Tilimara was that upset too. We love but mad Untilmara. 1632 02:04:15,119 --> 02:04:18,199 I got mad Untilmara in the chat. You also the most I know. 1633 02:04:19,039 --> 02:04:24,039 I just think at this point, if if you're going to kind of keep 1634 02:04:24,079 --> 02:04:27,399 it the way it is, you gotta do what you can to sort of 1635 02:04:27,479 --> 02:04:31,720 reshuffle what's around two and three? Um, And your best kind of asset 1636 02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:38,880 is thirty um. And I don't think that if you're if you're contemplating not 1637 02:04:39,159 --> 02:04:44,199 giving two one three a full extension, right, what zach Loto has to 1638 02:04:44,319 --> 02:04:47,520 be right, Someone's going to give them a full extension. Cliver's going to 1639 02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:55,600 get a deal on it. You can't do like you can't keep kicking the 1640 02:04:55,680 --> 02:04:58,920 candom, like you can't keep trading a Wayne all your feature picks on a 1641 02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:02,680 group that hasn't proven to have the right kind of identity. So, um, 1642 02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:05,880 i'd trade thirty. I wouldn't really trade anything in the future unless it's 1643 02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:13,239 something crazy. But I just don't see that happening either. We all like 1644 02:05:13,359 --> 02:05:17,399 Brogden, but I don't like tendon or lack of tendon whatever that his elbow 1645 02:05:17,399 --> 02:05:21,000 apparently has made out of paper machee services. Team can't even get Tommy John 1646 02:05:21,039 --> 02:05:29,640 surgery. He doesn't have the lik Sorry, I was wondering if he had 1647 02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:33,760 the same thing that Paul George had his injury he had like Tommy John for 1648 02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:39,600 a basketball player apparently doesn't matter right, which to me, like if if 1649 02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:43,359 that if that was the this guy of Douce Times, I didn't know who 1650 02:05:43,399 --> 02:05:45,399 this is. I didn't even meet this guy because he has given me the 1651 02:05:45,439 --> 02:05:54,319 business. But that's a pretty good law actions yea. For those of you 1652 02:05:54,479 --> 02:05:58,439 not watching, Deuce Times said he wouldn't believe Joseph Is if his tongue was 1653 02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:00,960 notarized. I don't. That's a good one, dude. He's flaming me 1654 02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,760 in these comments. That's also how you know, and I mean disrespectfully, 1655 02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:10,319 that he's old as hell. That's an old as hell person saying, and 1656 02:06:10,399 --> 02:06:12,479 I mean this in a nice way. That's right. Well, I can't 1657 02:06:12,479 --> 02:06:16,079 wait. He did like Danny Mannings. Danny Mannings was his favorite players. 1658 02:06:16,159 --> 02:06:18,800 That's like saying I once had an old guy tell me when I was working 1659 02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:24,479 on the ranch that he had a hernia's worth of paperwork to do. That's 1660 02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:28,359 fantastic. That's a that's an old as hell term, which I love. 1661 02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:35,840 Um, come on, clips make the pick. Wait, Leonard Miller is 1662 02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:40,199 it in? I don't know. I saw one tweet that said Leonard Miller. 1663 02:06:40,239 --> 02:06:44,319 What I's from an account, but I don't necessarily trust who's Leonard Miller? 1664 02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:48,439 Please tell me? Oh, I don't know. Are you an anti 1665 02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:54,479 college basketball fan as well? Joseph Um, I really, I really was 1666 02:06:54,520 --> 02:07:00,600 like a huge um college basketball fan for a long time, and then thanks 1667 02:07:00,279 --> 02:07:06,399 started to get worse. Law tweeted out a Reggie Miller gif. Miller Miller, 1668 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:11,760 am I going crazy here? Six ten, Oh god, he's six 1669 02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:23,680 ten Oh no, six ten nineteen. He's from Canada League Night Saadian lets 1670 02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:30,159 go. They've had a lot of luck with Canadians guys here Moon good versatility 1671 02:07:30,239 --> 02:07:33,079 on the defensive end. It has to add some weight, obviously, classic 1672 02:07:33,159 --> 02:07:38,479 Clippers draft pick needs to add some weight. Oh he's not an under sized 1673 02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:42,439 five. But in my heart I said he's not an undersized five. But 1674 02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:45,479 in my heart, no, he's just a four. He's just a normal 1675 02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:54,000 four. He's a six. Dude. Oh, he's a Terrence hairents. 1676 02:07:54,039 --> 02:07:58,239 He'll do whatever we want and you know, get disrespected kind of maybe a 1677 02:07:58,239 --> 02:08:01,359 little bit along the way. Come on, clips make an official someone saying 1678 02:08:01,399 --> 02:08:09,479 Gregory Jackson, what's going on? What's going on? Who is it? 1679 02:08:11,399 --> 02:08:15,920 Oh man, what's in the box? A lot of people want Leonard Millers. 1680 02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:20,520 Oh man, I'm gonna tell we should timestamp at the moment that we 1681 02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:24,000 all find out the draft? How? How is how is it that it's 1682 02:08:24,039 --> 02:08:31,039 all eight eleven and the Clippers are just finally picking. It's the thirtieth pick. 1683 02:08:31,159 --> 02:08:35,640 It's way too long, bro, It's way too long. Hours three 1684 02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:39,880 hours? What else is going on? It's just been BA and baseball. 1685 02:08:39,039 --> 02:08:43,159 They're gonna own the moment. Baseball, Baseball going on? I was baseball 1686 02:08:43,239 --> 02:08:46,520 is going on, dude, I've been watching the shit out of the College 1687 02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:50,560 World Series. Yeah, doing a round. Someone just said, when are 1688 02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:54,800 they going to announce the SCOOT for PG trade? Are they about to trade 1689 02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:58,119 down? What if the Clippers trade down? It's the Clippers trade own first 1690 02:08:58,199 --> 02:09:01,479 round. You're gonna get a really cool first person view of me smashing the 1691 02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:05,640 shit out of my if they trade back to the last pick. Are we 1692 02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:09,359 staying on until this is the last? But yeah, we're gonna stay until 1693 02:09:09,399 --> 02:09:15,439 the sectill pick six. I'm gonna do all this the ninth hour of the 1694 02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:18,359 clips and dip drafted Trapagan. We haven't eaten anything. Joseph's still here. 1695 02:09:18,439 --> 02:09:24,760 We've all lost our jobs. At some point, will we'll be able to 1696 02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:28,359 show up? I think enough if you stay on long enough, Hey, 1697 02:09:28,439 --> 02:09:33,920 Carl how long is this taco John's bs come on? So so yeah, 1698 02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:39,479 I don't know, Um, it's gonna be in there. Apparently there was 1699 02:09:39,479 --> 02:09:43,479 a bunch of scouts at Pepperdine games for the Clippers. This has turned into 1700 02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:48,720 Chuck. One of those moments to circle back to the very beginning of this 1701 02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:54,680 podcast where you wish you could get the news on Twitter early. This is 1702 02:09:54,760 --> 02:10:00,800 actually I would love that. Um, Chuck wants the spoiler finally, now 1703 02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:03,520 I want Well, when you pick thirty, I think you get you should 1704 02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:07,840 be given the pick before everyone else picks thirty, should actually pick first? 1705 02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:13,239 Did we get the money Bates um in money? That would kind of suck 1706 02:10:18,279 --> 02:10:22,880 perfect Clippers pick money Bates money bits the dude who was like supposed to be 1707 02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:26,439 good and then like had one good game and they could he beat the Kobe 1708 02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:33,239 Brown Kobe Brown. According to Jake Fisher, Kobe Brown said it too. 1709 02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:41,920 Kobe Brown, Kobe Brown, we gotta go sixty eight from Mizzoo twenty three. 1710 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:46,840 I knew it. I talked about this earlier in the stream, that 1711 02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:54,520 the Clippers would take an older guy. I nailed that part. Welcome to 1712 02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:58,920 the team with your old ass. We can talk about. What are we 1713 02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:03,880 talking about? How many trade coming? Yeah? Yeah, how many doors 1714 02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:07,239 our triple eight cards can open us? What's up? Kobe Brown? I 1715 02:11:07,319 --> 02:11:11,479 hope you put Kobe on the back of New Jersey. Actually be crazy, 1716 02:11:11,439 --> 02:11:16,600 still young enough to be named after the late grade Kobe Bryant. Take that 1717 02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:22,439 they need a ready behind player. Okay, oh yeah, Kobe, yeah, 1718 02:11:24,119 --> 02:11:26,439 all right? Minutes? All right? What do we think in minutes 1719 02:11:26,479 --> 02:11:31,319 per game? Kobe Brown? First season under over from three I'll take it 1720 02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:35,800 for real, on three attempts a game that's efficient. He and Russ at 1721 02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:39,760 the three point shootout, It's gonna be crazy, dude, this fucking guy 1722 02:11:41,239 --> 02:11:46,640 they're both going to shoot point and god damn it at him. I'm old 1723 02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:50,479 enough to remember when Marcus Morris said he was going to lead the league in 1724 02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:54,359 three point shooting and the canard we're fighting for it. This guy's offensive rating 1725 02:11:54,439 --> 02:12:00,600 is senior year of Buck twenty eight. Wow, war Joseph, that's a 1726 02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:03,159 board, buddy, that's Terrence Man levels. Terrence Man. Never you know 1727 02:12:03,159 --> 02:12:07,800 what his defensive rioting was, but go four Wow. Welcome to hell Over 1728 02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:11,920 Teams. Sorry I don't have to say it. I'm back in I'm all 1729 02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:16,199 the way back in what are we? What are we thinking for Kobe Brown? 1730 02:12:16,439 --> 02:12:18,600 Year one? What's he gonna put up in the G League? And 1731 02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:20,399 I mean that in a nice way, because thirty eight minutes a game, 1732 02:12:22,239 --> 02:12:31,600 forty seven points, six rebounds for assists six eight two fifty big boys sec 1733 02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:37,520 team average sixteen a game. I'm you know, let's go weaknesses. Despite 1734 02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:41,199 being quick and nimble for his size, he doesn't boast a vertical leap that 1735 02:12:41,279 --> 02:12:46,239 jumps off the page, no pun intended. Maybe a disadvantagement going up against 1736 02:12:46,239 --> 02:12:50,920 bigger players in the front court. Let's go fouls too quickly, older prospect, 1737 02:12:50,359 --> 02:12:56,479 perception of limiting but wrecked. This is a Clippers, correct, this 1738 02:12:56,680 --> 02:12:58,000 is a Clipper. He has a brickhouse. TSL. Flake said, he's 1739 02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:03,560 a brickhouse. Looks like a Brickhouse's gonna be a good time. Um he's 1740 02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:07,319 got that and swit in. Colin was scoot sure, oh yeah, very 1741 02:13:07,399 --> 02:13:11,439 similar. Might be the similar player, similar projections. You know the Robe 1742 02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:16,640 Brown is a bench player? How dare you? How dare you? Animals? 1743 02:13:16,239 --> 02:13:20,279 The nerve? So starting with we get Marcus out of here, put 1744 02:13:20,399 --> 02:13:26,800 Kobe Brown in before U. Unique combination as a wing player after averaging a 1745 02:13:26,920 --> 02:13:31,399 career high three point three attempts per game from three. Wow, let's go, 1746 02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:39,920 um you know proven h glass crasher, Oh need that, need that? 1747 02:13:39,039 --> 02:13:43,439 Marcus Morris, archetype. Let's go him, AMusA, Bro, you 1748 02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:46,039 go if you go small with him? AMusA for the Calliane Clippers. Good 1749 02:13:46,199 --> 02:13:50,800 luck, good luck, d Ontario Clippers. Now excuse me, we're always 1750 02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:56,239 I don't know what you're talking about. Um, someone saying Kobe Brown over 1751 02:13:56,359 --> 02:14:00,479 Marcus Morris, how we feel about the pick? Let's grade the pick instant 1752 02:14:00,600 --> 02:14:07,359 grade A plus A plus plus A plus bro a plus. What if they 1753 02:14:07,399 --> 02:14:11,640 just didn't know research and they were like, shit, uh, Kobe, 1754 02:14:11,159 --> 02:14:15,359 I know that name? You mean you mean like they did with Oturu, 1755 02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:18,359 they knew how tall he was kind of for the most part, they did 1756 02:14:18,439 --> 02:14:22,600 not. They knew he was over six feet tall, at least at least 1757 02:14:24,159 --> 02:14:26,880 they thought he was a little bigger though they look bigger than he was. 1758 02:14:26,039 --> 02:14:31,880 Adam, he had a shrunk spurt. You can't account for that. Who 1759 02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:35,640 drank a lot of coffee before? It's Boes just went that's what happens. 1760 02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:41,560 You're both shrink out, saying seems everyone on Twitter hates it. Everyone on 1761 02:14:41,560 --> 02:14:46,119 Twitter hates everything. Who would you love? What would you love at pick 1762 02:14:46,199 --> 02:14:50,199 thirty? And I again, I mean, this is no disrespect to whoever's 1763 02:14:50,239 --> 02:14:52,159 drafted at thirty. Who are you loving at thirty? School? What are 1764 02:14:52,199 --> 02:14:58,720 we getting thirty? Sure? I love it. If Victor fell, maybe 1765 02:14:58,760 --> 02:15:01,760 he likes white wine and run in France is like that's how they get his 1766 02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:05,760 draft stock to fall. Oh, I don't know, Like what do we 1767 02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:09,239 want at thirty? How can you hate this pick? We have so many 1768 02:15:09,319 --> 02:15:11,159 bigger issues. One of the things I love that Law talked about, and 1769 02:15:11,159 --> 02:15:18,319 then we're gonna wrap it about because you've been going for a strong strong One 1770 02:15:18,359 --> 02:15:20,439 of the things that Law brought up was it's win now. We need to 1771 02:15:20,479 --> 02:15:24,640 think about now. And he's not wrong at all. It's kind of what 1772 02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:26,800 Joseph was talking about. It's a little of what Adam was talking about with 1773 02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:31,720 how much he wants to see Moses Brown, Like this is for now. 1774 02:15:33,039 --> 02:15:37,640 So what I'm saying is, don't be upset at the thirtieth pick right now. 1775 02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:41,680 I know you can send whatever stats you want at me about draft capital 1776 02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:48,199 and YadA YadA, YadA. I reject them. I just it's the thirtieth 1777 02:15:48,279 --> 02:15:52,359 pick for a team that needs to win. Now, I don't There's so 1778 02:15:52,439 --> 02:15:54,239 many other things to be mad about. Just don't be mad about this. 1779 02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:58,399 Be mad about everything that Joseph and Adam and I have talked about. Don't 1780 02:15:58,439 --> 02:16:01,279 be mad about the thirtieth. Be mad at me. Don't be out at 1781 02:16:01,319 --> 02:16:03,760 either of them. Just be out at me. Be mad at Joseph. 1782 02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:07,319 But I don't know, Joseph. I would tell you to plug something. 1783 02:16:07,359 --> 02:16:11,479 But you're retired, I am, and you know what you do when you're 1784 02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:13,039 retired. You come on a podcast because you have an hour of free time. 1785 02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:18,239 That's fine. I just want to say I love you. I love 1786 02:16:18,319 --> 02:16:26,600 you, and I know that I'm I'm doing a show, um, but 1787 02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:31,159 I that I love your names, your new nicknames, money talk now, 1788 02:16:31,200 --> 02:16:35,079 but many tires, right. I love the Clippers. I want them to 1789 02:16:35,159 --> 02:16:37,840 win. I want them to make me look like a big dumb idiot. 1790 02:16:37,079 --> 02:16:41,600 So whatever that takes, I'm in. I'm all in, so it's always 1791 02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:46,200 I'll be there. It's gonna take them on Russell Westbrook, So I'm sorry. 1792 02:16:46,159 --> 02:16:48,280 That's fine. If that's what it takes, that's what it takes, 1793 02:16:48,479 --> 02:16:54,200 Okay. I hope can I propose a bet if, at the end of 1794 02:16:54,319 --> 02:16:58,360 next season, no matter what happens with the Clippers, if Tyler says a 1795 02:16:58,440 --> 02:17:01,280 kid that Russell Westbrook saved us season, will you get a Russell Westbrok jersey. 1796 02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:05,079 Yeah? Sure, that's so awesome, great because we used to have 1797 02:17:05,159 --> 02:17:09,239 a bet that Will is going to eat a crow if John Wall shot over 1798 02:17:11,079 --> 02:17:16,559 from three. Yeah, that didn't happen. Guys, he's got her. 1799 02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:22,440 Yes, I know you casuals didn't watch the season and astily as I did. 1800 02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:28,079 I love Petty Adam so much. What can you? Where can these 1801 02:17:28,120 --> 02:17:31,559 wonderful people find this podcast? All right? Also, the next podcast is 1802 02:17:31,559 --> 02:17:33,479 coming out in the week. You should be done with this one by them. 1803 02:17:33,639 --> 02:17:37,920 If not, don't worries Adam. Where can these wonderful people find our 1804 02:17:39,040 --> 02:17:43,120 content? At Clippers podcast Fucking marathons is where you can find us. No 1805 02:17:43,319 --> 02:17:48,600 at Clippers podcast on YouTube, At Clippers pod on Twitter. Joseph, you 1806 02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:52,520 still have a Twitter account? I do, but you don't have to follow 1807 02:17:52,559 --> 02:17:54,520 me because I'm probably not gonna be tweety much, So that's okay. Just 1808 02:17:54,639 --> 02:17:58,079 follow Adam all right? Tell him how smart he is and how handsome he 1809 02:17:58,280 --> 02:18:03,920 is? Um they do that already, plug yours. Okay, don't take 1810 02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:07,879 don't take anything I say seriously, um, because I'm just a fan with 1811 02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:11,360 a lot of opinions. Okay, life is a nightmare. Yeah, life, 1812 02:18:11,520 --> 02:18:16,200 I'm just a fan and clips are a nightmare. Yeah. There you 1813 02:18:16,239 --> 02:18:20,600 go. Now wait before we go we Okay, you can find it. 1814 02:18:20,760 --> 02:18:24,159 Find me at Chuck Mocker on Twitter. Find Will at will up, Tike 1815 02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:28,840 Adam is at follow Adam A. We're gonna be back next week, but 1816 02:18:30,120 --> 02:18:35,520 can we get a clippers Bro send off for the ogs. We've been listening 1817 02:18:35,559 --> 02:18:39,319 to myself and Will who's usually here and do this all right? Clippers Bro 1818 02:18:39,479 --> 02:18:41,639 used to come on every now and then, clippers Bro. How are you 1819 02:18:41,719 --> 02:18:46,719 feeling about Kobe Brown at the at number thirty? The sim Bro, it's 1820 02:18:46,879 --> 02:18:54,760 me. Nobody in this draft has been talking about the killer that is Kobe 1821 02:18:56,399 --> 02:19:01,360 Brown. Okay, the dude is built like a Hank Zion might be, 1822 02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:07,559 you know, chasing women around, but Kobe Brown has the right mindset and 1823 02:19:07,719 --> 02:19:13,120 the same physical build. Okay, the dude can jump out of the gym 1824 02:19:13,559 --> 02:19:18,399 and shoot from deep. He's gonna be starting and playing forty minutes a night. 1825 02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:24,600 Bro, You don't need PG, you don't need Kauai because it's clips 1826 02:19:24,639 --> 02:19:30,600 in three till we d I E with Kobe. Okay, I'll hang up 1827 02:19:30,639 --> 02:19:33,959 and listen Kobe Clippers Brown, thank you so much. Well me Matt next 1828 02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:35,760 week and as always, let's go Clippers