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X's Am Bros. Later on at
six thirty five. In case you missed

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it yesterday, it was a good
interview with Jim Copperni of Spartan mag Not

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because of me. It was because
of him. That's the reason it was

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a good interview. I think you'll
enjoy it. If you missed it,

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we will put it up and play
it at six thirty five. In the

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meantime, the Tigers with another impressive
win. They blow out Cleveland ten to

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one. I mean, absolutely schooled
them. This is the starting to score

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some runs offense, waking up a
little bit. Eighth time this year,

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eighth time that they have scored ten
runs or more in a game. That's

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the most this franchise has seen since
twenty sixteen. Riley Green with three hits

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and three RBIs Matt Vierling with two
more hits, Gie or Sheela collects a

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couple of hits and three runs driven
in. Jack Flaherty rock solid? Does

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he up his trade value to you
or does he make you want to keep

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him? That was one of the
things I was contemplating for a poll question,

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and then Trent came up with a
better one. So we're going to

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give it to Trent here this morning
on what our poll question is. We

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want to know who should start for
the National League? Which pitcher in the

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All Star Game? He got Paul
Skins, Chris Sale or other. Yeah,

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there's a reason we write that,
and I'll tell you what it is

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here in a moment. In the
meantime, the Tigers will play the Dodgers

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in the first of a weekend series
starting here tonight. Trek Scobel will be

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on the bump now immediately. I
think boy and I would think a lot

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of people would Dodgers lead the NL
West. Dodgers one of not the best,

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but one of the best teams you
could argue in baseball. I'll say

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the National League right now, only
because LA is scuffling mightily. The Dodgers

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were beaten by the Phillies again yesterday. Philly sweeped them. They showed them,

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didn't they. You want to know
who the best team in the National

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League is? How about sixty one
wins? How about a three game series

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sweep and outscoring LA nineteen to five
during that three game series. It's kind

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of a common theme yesterday in Major
League Baseball. Tell you what it is

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here in a minute. Because the
cub shout out the Orioles for a second

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straight game. This is where this
is what makes baseball beautiful and frustrating them

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at the same time. The Cubs, last in the NL East, against

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the Orioles, best in the aliest, best in the American League, shut

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them out for a second straight game. First time that's happened for Baltimore since

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June of twenty twenty one. Tells
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Who's the hottest team in baseball since
June first, Houston. They are twenty

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four and eleven. They've won nine
straight at home. I told you when

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the Tigers played Houston. If you
don't recall, I said, there's a

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lot of people saying Houston stinks.
I'm not buying it. I just don't

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believe it. This is a team
that has way too much talent for them

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to stink. This is a team
that has way too much talent and way

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too much experience for them to finish
last or second to last at the time

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because Oakland was worse in the American
League West and a proven track record too.

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That's the other key. We trust
the Astros, Yeah we do,

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don't we. I mean they've won
three straight now, they're above five hundred,

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and they're only two games back of
Seattle, who won yesterday as well.

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Cal Raley hit homeers from both sides
of the player. The point is,

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when you, like you said,
trust is it's such a good word,

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but it's such an overused word.
Not in this case, because you're

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right on. When you've been there, done that, and when you have

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the same consistent guys doing it,
then you don't worry that much, at

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least not in baseball. If it
were football and they were proven and they

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were you know, one in five, then absolutely you deserve to be concerned

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because you know at some point teams
slash players lose it over a period of

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time. But for Houston, when
you have when you have players like jose

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L Tuove who's hitting over three hundred, was an All Star and then was

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replaced yesterday. We'll get to that
a little bit later on why do you

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hear who replaced him? When you
have Alec Bregman who scuffled at the beginning,

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but suddenly he has caught fire and
now has eleven bombs. When you

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have Jeremy Pania, who was the
darling of the World Series a few years

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ago, is a rookie and was
MVP and has suddenly bumped the average up

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to two seventy seven. Who have
Jordan Alvarez who's got nineteen bombs in fifty

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one stakes, you don't worry about
that. They're going to have some guys

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come and go. I love Kyle
Tucker. I think he's a hell of

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a player. Chas McCormick is kind
of an EH but he's pretty steady.

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And then you can replace a guy
here or there. Suddenly Martin Maldonado's gone

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and you get a guy like Yanierdiaz
in and he's doing a pretty good job

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of contributing for the most part.
I mean, bat in two eighty six,

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you take that out of here,
quote unquote everyday catcher, and he

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has played eighty two games. So
there. I mean, yeah, you're

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gonna feel with that team. You're
gonna feel like I don't think we're out

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of it yet, folks, You
know what I mean. Framber Valdez on

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the bump, Hunter Brown on the
bump, Ronel Blanco on the bump.

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Justin Verlander that even at his age. Yeah, I'm not saying they're gonna

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win the World Series. I think
they'll win the West. I think they're

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better than Seattle. Of course,
I also thought the Tigers would win their

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division. So anyway, in baseball
yesterday it was startling. It was the

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lowest scoring day in Major League Baseball
since nineteen seventy six. Losing teams averaged

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one point zero eight runs per game. There were six shutouts in Major League

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Baseball. Now the Tigers helped add
to that because the opposing team yesterday,

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Cleveland in this case, scored just
a run. So the losing's team in

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Major League Baseball on Thursday averaged one
point zero eight runs per game. That's

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something else, man, really is
We're gonna the reason we tell you or

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the reason we ask you our poll
question which NHL pitchers should start the All

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Star Game, Paul Skeens, Chris
Sale or other. It comes with a

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purpose, and the purpose is what
Paul Skeens did yesterday. You know we

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is I hope he's the outstanding first
overall pick out of LSU. When I

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watch him pitch, I think I
don't wish that could be Casey Mice because

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he was the first overall pick out
of Auburn. Anyway, what Paul Skeens

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did yesterday is pretty historical. We'll
get to his line and wonder if it

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makes me specifically change my mind about
the All Star Game that's coming up next.

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in life. Can I change that? Let me change that? In life.

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One of the hardest things to do
is what say I was wrong?

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Well, I'm going to say it
right now. Earlier this week, Trent

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and I had a topic of the
National League All Stars and who should start,

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and I was bullish on Chris Sale, and I said, I prefaced

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all of it saying I don't like
Chris Sale. Now, there are some

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things that he's accused players of that
he he ends up. It turns out

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he was He wasn't as far off
as people thought he would be. Let's

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put it this way, Chris Sale, though, this year has been incredible

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for Atlanta. He's twelve and three, He's got a whip of point ninety

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four. He has struck out one
hundred and thirty six batters, most in

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the majors. He's got a two
point nine or he's got a two point

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seven for er. I can give
you all the numbers you want that would

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support my argument. What I missed
with the argument is the passion, intrigue,

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and desire to see Paul Skens start. I don't believe in necessarily projecting

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all these different numbers. This is
what Paul Skein's going to have if he

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had as many starts by this time
as Chris. We don't know. Okay,

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you can project it all you want
and it would probably be true,

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but we don't know. Here's what
we do know. The All Star Game

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is more of a spectacle rather than
an event. People vote in who their

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favorites are, not always who deserves
to go. Is that fair to say?

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Absolutely? Yeah? Okay. That's
why when when I hear a guy

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is is an X time All Star, I would rather look at how many

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times he's made you know, you
know, the first team all MLB squad,

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right, And in football it's even
more of a thing because there's Pro

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Bowl alternates and all that stuff,
so you got to look at all pro

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and chef. Also in baseball,
the All Star Game doesn't hold any water

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anymore. It used to matter for
World Series home field advantage, right,

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and now it's more of a spectacle. To your point, it is,

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but it is I think that the
lone All Star game. The football doesn't

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have one, so screw that.
But it's the lone All Star game that

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really is the only true measure of
whether or not the team wins. In

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other words, in the NBA who
they're just running up and down the floor

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whoever can make dunks and jump shots
and stuff. There's no defense, right

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the final sack te one hundred and
forty two and thirty five. Yeah.

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In hockey they play very little defense. Okay, they just leave the goalie

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out to dry. No one's hitting
and check it. It's not played like

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the real game Major League Baseball.
You're not hitting a ground ball to the

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second basement and he's letting it go
through his legs on purpose, whereas in

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basketball it's an ol a defense.
So it's it really is. The outcome

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is probably the most true. But
it's really important that for us to understand

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is that there's a lot of people
who don't get a chance to see Paul

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schemes. And I wouldn't say this
if it weren't deserving. First of all,

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earlier this week, I never said
he didn't deserve to be in the

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All Star Game. I just said
I think Chris Sale deserves to be the

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starter. I was wrong. Paul
Skins. Maybe yesterday completely changed my mind.

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Did you see what he did?
First and foremost? Yes, Okay,

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you did in case people didn't see
Paul Skins. And he's a he's

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a phenom. He and the Pirates
shut off the Brewers, who lead the

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division. This is no slouch.
This is a team that already has fifty

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four wins. Okay, Paul Skins
threw seven innings of no hit ball.

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He remember this. He's already made
plenty of history. First major league player

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to be selected to the All Star
Game this summer after being drafted. Okay,

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He's a guy who two times this
year now has thrown at least six

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no his innings to begin a game. He's tied with Max Freed and Ronel

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Blanco for most in the majors.
In that regard, he's the only player

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Baseball Reference Database anyway to have multiple
six plus inning no hits starts as a

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rookie, and in terms of major
League Baseball history, American and National League,

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he and Nolan Ryan are the only
pitchers to record multiple starts of at

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least six innings in which they allowed
no hits and racked up at least eleven

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strikeouts. Yeah, he was read
hot last night, and he's read hot

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this season, so shep. I've
got a question for you. He's six

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and zero after last night, eleven
strikeouts, seven to no hit. As

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you said, but ye at ninety
nine pitches in a one run game.

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Did the Pirates make the right call
by pulling him? I don't think they

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did, and it's this is not
an emotional decision. But here is the

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reason why. The reason is because
I don't care about pitch count. Sorry,

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I just don't. I think it's
I think we get quit. I

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don't know how many managers do.
I know people will complain that aj Hinch

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allows it when it's ridiculous, and
I would tell you that's he once allowed

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Edward Jackson on his no hit bid
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It's about when you are getting the
lineup and how many how you have

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done in against that lineup of that
particular, the ninety nine pitches doesn't bother

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me. He threw one hundred and
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He's already thrown one hundred or more
three times this year. To me,

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I think they should have left him
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seven and eight hitters for the third
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a really good question. But I
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have still been just fine. The
no hitter doesn't even matter to me.

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I know that sounds weird. Here's
what I ask you, who's better in

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your bullpen to get Jake Bowers?
Who was the first guy up in the

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inning, and who was at the
time all for one or for two?

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Rather, who was the best guy
to get him out? This was in

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the eighth inning, you're talking,
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they had already pulled him. Yeah, yeah, Bowers is leading off,

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He's the sixth hitter. He finished
the day one for two. So tell

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me, right, he was the
starting first baseman, right, so tell

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me who was better to get him
out and then get Mitchell out and then

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get mosta stereo out. Was there
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Of course? Obvious? Well yeah, and obviously they felt there was.

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They've obviously felt Colin Halderman was better. And he comes in and the

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no hitter's gone again. I don't
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one nothing game. Trying to presume
you want to win. Your goal as

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the manager, your goal is to
get the win more than anything else.

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As much as you'd love to see
Paul Skeens get a no hitter, that

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would be a really fun thing to
do. And the Pirates seven thrown a

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no hitter since Francisco Cordova and Ricardo
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So I get all that they even
had an end visual the individual throw

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a note hitter since John Candelaria in
nineteen seventy six. All that historical significance

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is fine, but that's not what
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He's thinking about what winning the game. Who gives you a better chance against

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the six, seven and eight hitters
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His one blemish was a walk.
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We can marvel at what the kid's
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in the All Star Game because people
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Welcome back on a Thursday. Glad
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Across the great state of Michigan.
Trent Bally is our producer. I'm Matt

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Shepard, and we're proud and honored
to welcome in Jim Comparoni of Spartan mag

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He's the publisher of that fine publication
since nineteen ninety seven. He's covered MSU

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football and basketball and recruiting since nineteen
eighty eight. He's a lead analyst and

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a sports editor for Spartan Magazine,
and he's covered NCAA tournaments. He's covered

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final fours, he's covered bowl games. He's got great stuff. You can

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follo him on Twitter or on x
at Jim Camparoni and check out a lot

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of the different things that he does, like on three dot com where he's

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really good in breaking down a lot
of the things that Michigan State football has

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done and their depth chart and things
of that. Everything that has go green,

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go white you can find with Jim
Camperoni, and we welcome him in

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on this Thursday morning. Jim,
appreciate the time very much. Jonathan Smith

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has hit the ground running. What's
impressed you most in his first few months

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at the Helm there in East Lansing. Hey, great, it's great to

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be on man. I really appreciate
it. Things for that introduction, helloed

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everybody, Detroit. This is a
lot of fun for me. I appreciate

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it. You know Smith, You
know a lot of things are impressive.

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His temperament. The things you hear
about him from other people that have played

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for him is as a player or
coached with him, solid human being,

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which we need more of in college
football. You hear a lot of those

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things from a lot of people.
You know. Demetrius Martin is his cornerbacks

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coach. He's coming from the University
of Oregon. Demetri is also coached at

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UCLA Arizona State. They're both you
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They've known each other a long time. They're finally coaching together now.

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Demetris Martin played at Michigan State in
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and then for Staban. So Demetris
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of times. Jonathan Smith could be
from arizo State and Martin coached out of

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the PAC twelfth and Martin says he's
a defensive coach getting prepared for those Oregon

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State teams, especially his last two
teams at Oregon State. He said it

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was a headache. Oregon State made
you defend every blade of grass vertically,

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horizontally, and physically, and then
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An interesting style of offense. They'll
go under center more than any at

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Oregon State. They were under center
for the quarterback position more than any team

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in the Power five, but they
would also go deep off of that and

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just keep you guessing. That established
the physicality and then go to the air,

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you know. Offensive style wise,
Oregon State last year reminded me a

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lot of the way Jim Harbaugh's offenses
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So Jonathan Smith, former college quarterback, has I would say like a Jim

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Harbaugh outlook on how to attack defenses. And I think that style of play

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can play well in the Big Ten
and they will recruit to it, primarily

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with the Midwest and branching out from
there. So the things I hear about

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him from people that have played for
him and coached against him coach with him,

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good person and competitive, which doesn't
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him that always talk about how competitive
he is. So all those things,

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step by step give Michigan State a
chance to rebuild a program from foundational standpoint.

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It's going to take a while,
but I think they've got a pretty

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good person to try to get those
things done. Yeah, I agree,

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And I think it says an awful
lot about Michigan State when you can take

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a guy from his alma mater to
come to East Lansing in this type of

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quote unquote rebuild whether we like it
or not, Jim, we're all compared

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to somebody, Okay, And with
Jonathan Smith, he's going to be compared

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in every football coach at MSU.
Probably should be compared to Mark D'Antonio.

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And you mentioned a good person,
so I think that's similar to D'Antonio because

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D'Antonio was a good man. Right. There are other aspects of him as

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a coach that he will have to
adjust to and that he will have to

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be in order to try and create
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What will be his biggest challenge in
his first year? In his first year,

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you know, taking over a program
that's had a lot of players leaving

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and a lot of players coming in. I think forty or more new new

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faces and new scholarship players when he
count the incoming freshmen. So getting a

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team atmosphere, finding leaders, gaining
the trust of the players, which I

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think he has. You know,
that's that's that's one thing. You know,

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the Big ten is strong. Everybody
knows that Michigan State schedule is difficult.

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Everybody's schedule that is difficult, but
it's also somewhat manageable in some ways.

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But in terms of what you said
about the biggest challenges, you know,

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in the middle of the schedule,
dealing with Ohio State, Michigan,

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Oregon in Iowa. Those four games
come right in the middle of the schedule.

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But I think the thing that's going
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will be two early season games at
Maryland at Boston College. So those you

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know challenges is getting off to a
good start winning those two manageable road games

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difficult Maryland, you know, that's
an established program, you know that's been

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in Bowl games last couple of years. Going on the road, that'll be

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that's going to be a test to
see if to see where Michigan State is

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there early in the year, doing
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Chiles has all kinds of talent.
He needs to show that he can

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make reads and lead the team.
Offensive line has had a lot of change

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over was somewhat disappointing the last couple
of years. Now there's new people,

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a lot of unproven parts of that
offensive line, So a lot of question

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marks in terms of unproven players offensive
line and quarterback. And going on the

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road for those two early games in
September. I think those are the immediate

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challenges. Yeah, that's a really
good point, especially with Maryland. I

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would argue that, you know,
what Mike Loxley has done there has been

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pretty impressive. You get a road
win there at Maryland early on in the

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schedule, I think that's something on
which you can build. You bring up

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the quarterback Giles and you said learning
to read defenses as a former quarterback himself,

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Jonathan Smith, how much will it
help building a quarterback room in East

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Lansing And what's the depth chart look
like. You know, Chiles has all

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kinds of talent. He was a
four star guy out for California. He's

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a big time recruit that went to
Oregon State last year backed Dja huy Ungalley

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at Oregon State. When Jonathan Smith
and the staff came to Michigan State,

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Child came with him. And he's
a dynamic talent, dynamic personality. He

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does have some natural leadership skills,
all kinds of arm, six foot four,

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really good quickness, really good speed. They used him as a backup

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last year. You know they'd usually
give him one series per game in the

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second quarter. I mean he's out
there Utah when Utah was four and oh,

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and he's got a series early in
the second quarter, so he had

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some real experience. It was not
just mop up duty. He needs to

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show he can make reads. That's
something I ate Matt. I went over

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every pass completion that he made last
year on TATE and I watched the entire

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Utah game, the entire Stanford game, and you don't really see him make

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reads and go to his second and
third option. He didn't do that yet

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and he didn't do it in the
spring game. So in terms of reading

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a defense and those progressions, that's
something that needs to come around as he

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gets gets set for his sophomore year, and then it'll run some you know,

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No, they began that Utah game
empty, you know, with the

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receiver a tight end out five wide
and the defense is scrambling a point decide

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what they're gonna do because they've prepared
for a team that would go, you

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know, tight end one back and
ram it down your throat. So they'll

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do all those things, and he
can run a lot of those things.

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And they've got the tight end Jack
Velling coming with him from Oregon State.

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You know, one publication ranked Velling
the Pac twelve tight End of the Year

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last year, so the tight end
position is in good hands. The center

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position is also coming from Oregon State
Tanne Miller, second team of All Pac

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twelve. So those things helped Smith
as he gets his offense established and it's

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going to be a physical style of
off but that doesn't guarantee immediate success,

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of course. You know at Oregon
State he began too and ten in his

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first year, then five and seven, then the COVID year, then they

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started getting a lot of momentum seven
and six and twenty twenty one, and

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then had a big year in twenty
twenty two, going ten and three,

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beating Florida in a Bowl game,
finishing number seventeen in the country and last

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year eight and four and also the
top twenty five. So it's going to

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take a while, but I'm impressed
with the offensive line coach and the style

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of play, Brian Linkred coming with
him from Morgan State to be offensive coordinator.

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A lot of interesting things to watch
and a lot of new names at

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Michigan State for Michigan State fans to
try to memorize and become familiar with.

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Yeah, so much good stuff at
Spartan mag We're talking with Jim Camperoni,

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who is the editor and the main
guy right there right the publisher of Spartan

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Magan. He's been doing it since
nineteen ninety seven. It's amazing how much

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content you provide. You had brought
up a couple of names and folks.

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If it's not just Michigan State players
now even the radar. So there's a

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really good recruiting piece on Spartan meg
on the Radar for twenty six a four

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star quarterback Nathan Bernhard providing an eye
full at Michigan State camp. It's worth

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a read. If you follow the
Green and the White. Now you mentioned

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the offensive line, which is it's
the backbone. Man, It's the reason

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you win. I believe in football. Dan Campbell has proved with the Lions

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last year. Jim Harbaugh was a
big believer in it. I would assume

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Jonathan Smith has a similar philosophy.
And you brought up the center Tanner Miller,

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but also you wrote about Luke Newman, who's poised to make an impact

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at right guard. Give me the
overall philosophy you think that jon Jonathan Smith

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brings to Michigan State and how quickly
he can implement that in this program.

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Yes, in a moment ago he
asked me on the death start at quarterback.

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I wanted to mention also that the
second stringer is Tommy Schuster from Chippewa

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Valley High School, Macombe Township,
Missigan. Yeah, turing in from North

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Dakota and he went out to North
Dakota through for nine thousand yards, you

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know, school record holder in yards
and touchdowns and you know, sixty seven

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completions. He's only six feet tall. You know, I've not spoken with

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him yet. I'm pretty sure that
the Max schools did not recruit him coming

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out of Chippewaba. I think I
think you're right about that. I think

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he played in the state championship and
I called his game, so I think

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you're right about that. I was
surprised that No Max school jumped on him.

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Good point. Yeah. And by
the way, the great job of

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those high school games. Just last
night, I was I was watching Trey

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McKenny from Older Lake Saint Mary's McCormick, and the other guy called that one,

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but I went over. I was
clearing my DVR, and you know,

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I didn't really get a chance to
watch. I was covering the NCAA

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tournament and I watched some of your
calls just last night. It's a great

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job either state championship clf Ok.
Yeah, you call it game with Tommy

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Schuster, and you know Shuster.
You may remember they won the state title

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at Chippewah Valley and he was something
like fourteen of fourteen in the state title

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game. The only person that's ever
done that really good. You talk about

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making Reeds. I went back and
watch some of the North Dakota games.

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Makes Reids very accurate. He's only
six feet tall and he's not that fast,

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so that's why he ended up at
North Dakota. He went there,

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started for four and a half years, set school records, you know,

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graduated there, went into the portal, and you know, always wanted to

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play in the Big Ten. I
always wanted to see if he could make

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it at the school like Mischigan State. And Michigan State did a good job

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going into the portal and getting him
presumably his backup. But I tell you

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what, the coaches when you ask
him about Shuster, they smile and they

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just kind of nod and say,
man, that guy can play quarterback.

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So when Smith took over, Mischigan
State's quarterbacks went into the portal, you

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know, Noah Kim and kateon Hauser, and you know when they showed up,

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they had no scholarship quarterbacks on campus. That's the first time that's been

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the case of Michigan State's in the
World War two. So they had to

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completely stock the quarterback childs was coming
in, they went and got Schuster and

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a couple of high school guys.
So that's that's what the depth chart looks

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there. You know you mentioned Luke
Newman. You know, what we're doing

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is a series right now in Michigan
State. We are going over every single

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position on the depth chart I'm doing
this. I'm doing a series of stories

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in which I project what I think
the depth chart is because Michigan State has

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not released an official depth chart since
Mark D'Antonio was at Michigan State. So

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I'm just going by what I saw
at the spring game, what I've heard

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from coaches here and there, what
I've seen with my own eyes. A

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lot of these players coming in as
as transfers, so you have to imagine

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some of these things now, Luke
Newman. I did ask Michigan State's off

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at the Wine coach, Jim Mahaltrick, when I saw him at one of

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the camps out at Wayne State a
few weeks ago. I asked him about

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Newman because Newman didn't play for Mischigan
State during spring practice. He's transferring in

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from holy Cross. He's from Birmingham
Brother Rice. Really good offensive lineman,

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but we was recruited at kind of
that you know, FCS level. I

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went to holy Cross three times all
Patriot League. I went and watched his

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film against Boston College. They're one
game against you know, a Power five

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team, and he was left tackle
for holy Cross, and I think he

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looked better at left tackle against Boston
College the Michigan State's left tackles half the

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last two years. I think Luke
Newman from Brother Rice comes in as a

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graduate as a senior. Now,
Mahaltick told me he's going to be beginning

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at right guard, So that's where
I'm writing about him in this depth chart

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preview. But I like he's got
quickness, he's a mature, mature athlete,

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and he's sitting nicely in there at
right guard. I don't discount the

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possibility that he could end up at
tackle. And I think he's a good,

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solid, bona fide Big Ten player
transferring in a Brother Rice product coming

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in from Holy Cross. Yeah,
and you wrote about Christian Phillips at left

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guard. How does this team you
mentioned first year there's going to be some

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growing pains. We get it.
We understand that he's changing the culture to

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a certain extent by bringing some isay, how does this team lack of a

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better phrase, tread water in year
one? Do you think what do they

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rely on? Got to get that
run game going and from their counter boot

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play action, rollout passing quarterbacks,
got to make reads. Offensive lines got

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to keep them clean to an extent. You know, they got a couple

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good running backs show Nathan Carter's coming
back, had a pretty good year last

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year. Kay Roon Adams is the
guy transferring in from U mass Those two

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running backs solid players. You know, Jalen Berger transferred out. He was

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repping behind those guys. And you
know, the wide receivers need to come

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around. You know, Montory Foster
is a senior more than forty catches last

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year. But I'm not sure they've
they've got, like, you know,

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real game breaking, proven type wide
receivers. And as you know, over

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the years of State, when they
whether they've had good teams or bad teams,

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they've always had really good wide receivers, proven wide revers. This year,

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going into the year, this might
be the most unproven batch of wide

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receivers I've seen in Michigan State in
decades. That doesn't mean that they won't

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get it done. But you know, Nick marsh coming in as a true

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freshman from River Rouge, the most
talented guy in the room. I would

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say, I think he's going to
have an impact. So there's a lot

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of question marks, but you know, there's a smattering of talent and a

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lot of these guys want to be
coached up. They want some discipline.

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I think that discipline and attentiveness was
lacking the last two years with mel Tucker

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defense, a lot of transfers coming
in. The defense ranked outside the top

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one hundred the last two years.
Scotty Hazelton never really got his defense,

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you know, untracked and you know, tightened up it. It didn't work

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out. Joe Rossi coming in as
the new defensive coordinator was good at Minnesota.

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You know last year they were young
at Minnesota on defense. Prior to

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that, I thought Minnesota was one
of the more underrated defenses in the Big

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Ten. And I wrote and told
my writers when they played Minnesota two years

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ago, everybody, this is after
Michigan State won the Peach Bowl. Misigsters

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State was in the top twenty and
they just lost out at Washington. Coming

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back home, I said, I
predicted Minnesota is going to beat Michigan wister

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State. It's gonna be a tough
game. And a lot of my readers

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gave me a lot of flak for
that. Matt They didn't believe it at

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all. But that defense that Joe
Rossi had at Minnesota, I was impressed

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with, reminded me of Iowa defenses
a little bit. I think Jonathan Smith

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did a really great job going to
get a Big ten defensive coordinator with Midwestern

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ties to come in and take over
a defense that had been the leaguer for

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two years. Yeah, that's good
stuff. Man. There's a reason you're

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the king of East Lansing and Michigan
State. Jim Comperoni, thanks for all

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the insight. We could talk to
you all day because your knowledge is vast

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and it's incredible. Folks. You
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Have a great weekend, my friend. All the best to you and your

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family. Thanks for the time today. We'll talk again, I hope.

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Yeah. I really appreciate it.
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I appreciate it. Matt