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Welcome to you softcore History. Hello, and welcome to softcore History. My

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name's Jake Goldman. I'm joined as
always by Dan Rojester and Rob Fox.

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How's it going today, boys?
Yeah, you couldn't even flip the switch

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to start the show. I'm sorry
the fuck just zero energy off the bat.

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I'm riding high. Rob's coming in
in a good mood. You have

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COVID. I think I've tested negget. Why are you still testing? Because,

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don't worry, guys, before the
show, he's spitting in both of

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our mouths. That's right, that's
the that's the real That's how I test

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for COVID. If they get horribly
sick, then I'll know. You do

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sound like shit. I know like
you sound like fucking dog shit. I

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know I'm talking to that microphone.
Later, it's not we'll switch. We'll

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switch the condoms on the mic.
Yeah, you might honestly want to do

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that. Yeah, we'll switch the
mic condoms. It'll only make me stronger.

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I've been tracted COVID like four times. We'll have how and I've only

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increased. It's my bench since I
don't know if there's a connection to that.

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Oh maybe I'll try. Maybe I'll
try bench pressing, and maybe it's

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better incline only. Oh I don't
too flat as a mold. Yeah that

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makes sense. At your funeral,
I'm gonna be like some say Dan's heart

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grew four sizes that day, and
it did. The COVID gave him myocarditis

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and he was not long for this
world. From there, he collapsed on

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that Lifetime Fitness basketball court. Trying
to prove to him, Actually, I

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know you'd be benching. I wright
irony. I wrong, it would be

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d benching and your heart just explodes. He drops it on his neck.

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Yeah, actually no, it's inclined, so he wouldn't dropping on his neck.

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Just the top of my the top
of it just crushed his big heart.

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Yeah. Who's the USC running back
back in the day that dropped it

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on his neck, like Johnson or
whatever? I forget. Yeah, that's

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pretty funny. Though. Almost died, Yeah he really, It almost decapitated

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him. Yeah, yeah, it's
really bad. But yeah, be stronger

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for those who happened to him in
the weight room, so it didn't happen

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to him on the field, that's
right. He never got rushed in the

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neck by another player. Yep.
That's for sure smart. Yeah. So

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to the Patreon, you should go to

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saton dot com slash softcore history two
additional episodes every week, one a normal

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episode just like this, and another
drops on Friday, either a voicemail like

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user kind of interactive episode yea,
or watch along. I found some great

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old video, old instructional videos for
us to watch along too. One of

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them is just like how to make
a sandwich and it's like a woman in

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a kitchen no way, yeah,
I mean it's just like it's so it's

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so on the nose. Is it
good? Though? Like I didn't want

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I don't want to ruin it.
I wouldn't react live. I just see

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it, saw the still in the
title, you know what I mean.

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Like, but it's that we watch
like that type of ship. We've done

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like Duck Duck and Cover Duck,
and we did do like an entire hour

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and a half of just nuclear war
psa s. Yeah, it's true we

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did. But today I'm back from
me. By the way, if you

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only listen to the main I'm back
from Maine. Brought with me some fun

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stuff and uh, I'm not gonna
talk about Mane at all. They were

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talking about stick fighting. Stick fighting. Stick fighting brought back Maine with you.

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I brought it back yep, in
a way. Yeah, it's just

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like it's just like a weathered old
lobster fisherman. Now. I'm a longshoreman

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now, yeah, yeah, you
should address I got a crab on my

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head. You do, you are
wearing a crab on It was always my

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backup plan. A longshoreman just kind
of work on the kind of like a

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waterman. I mean, you have
a boat face. Oh face body mc

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boat face, body mc boat face. Over here, you got a you

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got a boatman's face. You know
what I mean. I take that as

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a compliment as actually, you know, take it however you want. It's

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a fact. There's some poor girl
waiting by the coastline every night. Just

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I hope he gets home safe,
yeah, hoping that the lighthouse finally spots

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his ship. It's long gone,
it's gone, it's washed out. Yeah.

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The blood of my eyes is m
that too. Well, let's get

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right to it. Beginning of the
late thirteen hundreds and lasting until the early

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seventeen hundreds. So oh, I
thought this was gonna be like Appalachian stick

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fight. No, no, it's
way more cultured. Actually, Swiss stick

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fight close, very close. Mock
battles consisting of mobs of working men with

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shields and helmets would take place in
the streets of Venice Sweet So I'm sorry

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they're just LARPers. I don't think
you can lap in the fifteen hundreds.

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I think you just are that you
can larp on it. You can larp

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at any time, I guess.
Yeah, if it is a mock battle,

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it is a larp. There was
in college. There used to be

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as bar. It's an apartment complex
like everything else now, but it's like

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a cross like diagonal from this park
that these dudes used to larpen and we

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would just sit on the patio and
watch the medieval fight for lard. That's

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why, Yeah, I should put
on a phone. I wanted to,

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but I was afraid of being mocked, and so I sat there just like,

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yeah, well no, I silently
Chris hiked all of their moves and

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do they have magic moves? No, it was I think it was straight

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up. That's cool. You know, you could actually like go sword fight

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somewhere around town, like they have
a sword fighting league, like medieval style.

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You put on chainmail and like Knight's
armor, you can also beat the

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shit out of somebody with a keyboard
and silicon valley. What yeah, I

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have those like fight clubs with just
desk in office, just in an office

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supplies. All right, that's that's
on point. That sounds about right.

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But yeah, these men would beat
the shit out of each other, not

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with their fists, with wooden sticks, oftentimes for hours on end. Well,

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the battles may seem like silly past
time similar to English medieval football,

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they were anything, but men were
routinely injured, with broken bones and disfigurement

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being a common occurrence, well more
rare. Many participants were inevitably killed during

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these fights. Dude, all right, obviously the death would have to be

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curbed. But can you imagine if
this and not football or this and football

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had like caught on and you just
have like you know, obviously the tactics

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and weaponry become outdated as like gunpowder, it becomes more prevalous like that,

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but you just still had like a
league where you know, like a thousand

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guys on each side had a medieval
battle and it's like the Ordendo Nights.

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Perhaps you Combine football with stick fighting, and you get Adrian Peterson. True

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is the opponent the kids a child
Adrian Peterson versus one hundred misbehaving children.

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Pick your switch, go outside,
pick them switches anyway. The first official

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record of these Venetians stick battles dates
back to thirteen sixty nine. The authors

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stated that the fights are not lowly
things of little importance, but of the

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highest consideration in Venice. In fourteen
twenty one, the fights evaulved and they

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moved from streets and fields to take
place in a more specific venue. They

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solely took place on bridges in Venice. That's pretty sweet. It's tight.

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They would just have giant stick fights
on the bridges of Venice over the canals.

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Dude, that's fucking dope. So
it's essentially just like two like columns

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of men meeting on a bridge,
just beating the crap out of each other,

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throwing them out. You're eating other
guys off the bridge and ship.

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Yep, you would watch the fuck
out of that. It's the sport.

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I didn't know I needed to see. Oh my god. Yeah. So

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once on the bridges, these fights
became much more of a spectator sport.

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People from around Venice would gather at
bridges where fights would take place, and

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became such a point of pride that
the Venetian government arranged them for honored guests.

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But you know, like a lot
of people outside of Venice didn't really

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know what to make of them,
like what the fuck is going on?

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From you yourself can participate in these
today where soccer hooligans, it's not the

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same because they just you know,
I want like an organized army, not

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like a green street hooligan. The
situation. I want to be a part

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of a failings. It's gonna be
hard to do. A failings on a

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bridge right now would be seemingly p
actually because you're in a column. Yeah,

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yeah, you got a whole rank, and then that really is all

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it is, like you it's and
that's how old battles with sword and shield

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were basically where it was like there
wasn't much killing until somebody broke rank.

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Yeah, and then the fucking floodgates
open. Well. In fifteen seventy four,

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a bridge battle conducted by six hundred
Venetian artisans was arranged for the French

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King Henry the Third. Isn't that
kind of like what slap fighting, is

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you and your boys just kind of
like until somebody lands that really good shot.

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Yeah, then it turns into a
real fight. Yeah. Then you're

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just throwing fists at that point,
right like it, Like, I guarantee

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you this start, this fight starts
out. They're trying to hit like these

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guys like knuckles and shins like shit. That hurts. But is it just

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hurts, right, It hurts like
a bitch, and then they can be

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like fuck, can you throw them
over the bridge. But eventually you get

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a shot that piss you off so
bad that you just start swinging for the

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eyes. We'll actually talk about that
in a moment. That does happen a

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lot. However, when Henry the
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this, he reportedly complained about the
event. He was like, it's too

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small to be a real battle,
and it's too cruel to be a game.

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I don't know what this is.
This man is wrong about the ladder.

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Yeah, no, I agree.
I guarantee you. There's less CTE

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than an NFL game today. Oh
for this, Yeah, in the initial

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form, probably it's funny you mentioned
boxing. We'll get to that later.

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An entire army of Parkinson's. It's
just zombies. Really, if you think

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about it, just slowly shaking and
sealed stick fighting district. You don't want

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to go down there. It's pretty
sad. I don't want to go down

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that road. Get off. During
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spectacles grew in significance. Several times
a year, Venetian workers and tradesmen would

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gather on particular Sundays or holiday afternoons
to fight for possession of a bridge.

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So this was all about bragging rights
on who owned what bridge amongst different factions.

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They take taxes on it. Nope, it was just like my bridge.

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Yep. Oh, so it's like
a war. It's like a gang

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where it's like, just is are
block and it's like, well, no,

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that's the city of Los Angeles's a
block and if they wanted to,

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they could clear it out. Well, it's not even that. It's just

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like we won that bridge. They
don't like own the tur if they don't

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charge a fair or anything. It's
just like we won that bridge. Okay,

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so the bridge is like a trophy. It's got belt. Ballers are

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attacking the bridge again, getting the
baller alert. It's what was it?

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The ballers and the yeah good good
game, sant Andreas Grove Street baby h

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Such pre range battles would take several
forms, from individual duels and small scale

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brawls for a few hundred or thousand
onlookers to enormous ones prepared days and events

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and held for hours in front of
tens of thousands of spectators. Basically,

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if there was a fight that was
planned a couple of days in advance,

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almost the entire city of Venice was
going to watch it. Fuck. Yeah,

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it's like a college town. It
all shuts down for the game exactly.

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No, I mean it's it's very
college football esque. Yeah. So

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they were waged by all types of
citizens, but for the most part the

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fights were largely civil. However,
these battles were not just limited to Venice.

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From as early as the tenth century, in many Italian communities, rival

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bands of youth were known to battle
in open fields using fists, stones,

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or wooden swords and shields. Venice
just did the bridge thing because because Venice

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has bridges, was Venice the most
organized? Yes, okay by far,

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Like everyone had mock fights. Everyone
had mock fights outside of the like shivel

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risk tournament kind of style stuff.
Like everyone still wanted to fight too,

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but Venice just was like our things
bridges. Now, yeah, they got

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the sponsorships right, the Venetian banks. It's true. God, damn dude,

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I just want to go to this. I want to be a commander

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in one of it. You know
what I mean, just send in the

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second platoon flank. Yeah, it's
fun, fake war. It's fun as

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hell. I mean I love paintball, yeah, I don't play it very

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often. And but when I mean
when I say paintball, I mean like

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in the woods. I don't like
that speedball shit. We just run around

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behind balloons or when little inflatable things. Oh yeah, it's lame. That's

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kind of lame. One professor of
Renaissance Italian history tells us that such pretend

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wars between just normal everyday fighters were
so common that many people generally owned sticks

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and rocks and protective shields and helmets
and armor. Like most people just had

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their like, oh that's my like
rec league stick in armor. It's like

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if Barrett golf clubs you have,
you don't even use it that much as

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you're just like, yeah, there's
my golf clubs. Yeah, exactly.

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Everyone had like a fighting stick,
yeah, and a helmet. The reason

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a lot of these took place in
Venice specifically was that in medieval Venice,

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shiverick tournaments were far less common because
of where they were and conducted mostly by

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professional soldiers rather than Venetians. So
the bridge battles a lot of the Venetians

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the opportunity to appraise the prowess of
their own troops and roar the skillful fighters

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as well. Also imagine you're you're
like, god, that's a hard city

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to conquer. If your main sports
fighting with sticks, it's yeah, it's

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fake war, Yeah, definitely.
And h fourteen fifty eight, the Venetian

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commander Bartolomeo Colioni had a tournament battle
between two squadrons of seventy men at arms

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spot with full weapons. The contest
was for possession of a small wooden castle

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erected outside the Doge's palace. Wait
full weapon what? Yeah they did this

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one guy, this one commander got
all the best people from all the stick

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fighting factions. Yeah, it was
like, whoever wins you get a castle.

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I mean like swords and ship,
yeah, like metal swords. Yeah.

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Basically they weren't. They weren't supposed
to kill each other, but it

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was who could take the bridge basically, and whoever took this bridge in particular

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got a wooden castle. Sweet.
I don't know. This kind of sounds

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like a bunch of bitches compared to
the Scots talked about it the Thirty on

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thirty like m M A battles that
they would have until the death. Yeah,

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on the Highlands civilized, right,
the Scots aren't. And I say,

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as an Irish person, that's basically
the same thing mud people at that

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point in history. Yeah. So
originally the Venetian bridge fights were waged with

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sharpened sticks or canes from local lagoons, so they'd go pull like I guess

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sugar cane or like root cane or
whatever. Yeah, so big thick sticks.

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I don't know, whatever cane grows
and it'll like sugar cane and no,

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no whatever, it's just some kind
of read yeah, some kind of

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thick reddick pretty much. They called
him India Sticks. Just Tommy Dreamer hitting

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you over the head. Ec dub
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video we saw the other day of
Aubrey Marcus probably what where he has sword

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fights. Yeah, retreats sword stick
fights, and they're like, there's no

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like they're not doing anything real like
form wise, They're just like swinging at

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each other. Like, well,
he's very graceful in his like practice,

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but when it comes to actual combat, it's just like swing for the fences.

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Yeah, all home us just like
yeah, yeah, in his yard,

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he's like yeah wow. And then
in the fight he's like, because

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that's how it works. One goes
out the window. Everybody's gonna plan until

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they get hit in the face with
a kindos tis. All that stuff just

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goes out the window when that first
bullet flies past your head. Uh.

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Basically, the sticks were customarily hardened
at the point by repeatedly soaking them and

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boil and then boiling oil, and
then sharpened. Because of this, people

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typically wore an iron helmet, and
a lot of people started wearing like chain

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mail to make sure they didn't die
from getting poked too hard. Yeah it

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sounds like a spear basically. Yeah. They also started adopting leather and wooden

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shields as well. The battles themselves
were staged and fought without any formal or

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written regulations, though not details survive
of the actual combats, Like as far

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as rules go, we can imagine
the jumbled crowds of men with sharp sticks

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stabbing and striking, even without intent
to injure. It would be a quite

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dangerous activity because yeah, they're hitting
each other with sharp sticks. I mean

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yeah, so like essentially at the
very like you're still you're like getting cut,

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you know what I mean. And
then this paintball is not quite that

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bad, but like, I mean, you can you can get lit up

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pretty good in paintball, Like you
it'll draw bloods if you get shot near

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enough to the gun and oh totally
like a close enough range whatever, and

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typically you're only getting welts, which
a lot of these people did. Like

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typically uh, injuries typically range from
scratches and sprains mostly, but they're always

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the knocked out teeth. Another really
common thing though, was dislocated jaws of

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course. Yeah, and then gouged
out eyes can the worst one where people

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would be crippled because they'd have their
rib cages smashed and their legs trampled on.

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Yeah that sounds about right, yeah, I mean think I mean,

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they're they're on a bridge. There's
nowhere for you to go, exactly,

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you fall down if someone cuts your
fucking achilles or something, you know what

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I mean, Like just you falled
out, looked. The battle's got to

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go on. And you talked about
this earlier, but a slap fight turning

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into a real fight. So the
tension of the events ran high, and

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the sight of a single dagger drawn
in anger, as opposed to the approved

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weapons of the fight, could instantly
cause one hundred others to be pulled into

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the brawling from the crowd. Basically, if people saw you pulling some street

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ship and you get your ass jumped, Yeah, like a hundred people just

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like no, no, or I
wonder if they were ever like your side

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was losing and you're just like,
hey pulled the dagg out of head and

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then you and then you just everyone
runs in and yeah, kills him.

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Yeah the boy who grabbed dagger.
Well it doesn't matter that because you killed

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everybody. Yeah, you got what
you wanted. I mean, it was

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largely considered a bitch move to pull
it actual like weapon, right, that

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was not one of the I guess
sanctioned weapons of the fight. I get

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that. He you know, you
can't walk anymore, and he your jaws

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broken forever and you lost an eyeball, but you need to pulling a dagger.

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Come on, guys, buddy,
this is just make them up.

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You're just the skater. Kids would
the blind guy, now there's no reason

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to skitter. Kids in Philly would
always bring knives and brass knucks to fight.

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Brass knuckles. Man, that's a's
gonna use it, dude, it's

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a coward move one. I don't
think anyone that's ever I'll take this back

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immediately. I don't think any kid
that's ever pulled brass knuckles out knows what's

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gonna happen. Right we're fifteen,
man, Well you got brass knucks.

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It's like you're going to jail.
You can get those at a freaking gas

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station. You can literally get them
at the gas station up there at the

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Valero. But they sell brass knuckles
for some reason. There's only two kinds

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of people that own brass knuckles.
People no, well, for protection,

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I guess, But like I guess, there's only two kinds of dudes that

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own brass knuckles, the ones that
very much intend on killing the person with

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them. And William Regal another wrestling
reference that you guys don't get Nope,

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sure don't. Sure, don't power
the punch baby. Yeah. The other

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person I was going to say is
the ones that don't realize how fucked they

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are if they get caught with them
in a fight. All that stuff is

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like super illegal in Texas, including
ironically they're like, hey, hey,

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hey, hey, hey, just
buy a gun seriously, because you're not

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allowed to have a knife that's bigger
than the palm of your hand or whatever.

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Something weird like that. There's also
like women aren't even allowed to carry

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like sharp things. It's not brass
knuckles, but it's like a key something

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you put on your keychain and then
you can put it in between your fist

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and kind of like gouge. Yeah, punch guy. I mean it's enough

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that you know you don't want to
mess with it. It's like a it's

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like you don't want to get scratched
by a fucking cat type of situation.

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Yeah, but that's illegal, and
it's not big, and that's you would

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have to do a lot of work
to make it lethal, and and that

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that's wild to me that that's legal, but like you know that's illegal or

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no, that that's illegal, but
you know, just emptying aquip and someone

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that's coming out it's fine for real, dude, Like there's people that just

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like you're basically like incentivized, people
who either don't want to own a gun

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or maybe shouldn't own a gun to
just like, oh, well, I

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guess I have to get a gun. Yeah, pretty much. I mean,

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does it seem smart I don't let
him have the other weapon? Yeah,

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I don't know. Then you get
a whole Britain situation where everyone just

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gets stabbed, I know, and
that's worse, worse it does, like,

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I mean, I don't want to
ever be shot or stabbed, but

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if I had to choose, I'm
taking the bullet. There was a Reddit

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thread of it's like a famous one
and it was it was essentially like people

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who have been both shot and stabbed, which is worth and it was like

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ninety five percent stab Yeah. They
were like I didn't even realize I was

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shot, and then it hurt a
lot where its stabbed. There's like I

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thought I was dead the instant I
was stabbed. It was so horrible that

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I can't even explain it. The
breath left me. It was cold and

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painful, and yeah, it was
no bullet like a lot of people get

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shot, Like you said, don't
know they've been shot. It's like WHOA,

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what was that? And then like
they don't really even feel it until

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they see the bullet wound. Yeah, and then they're like put well one,

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I guess it's like some sort of
body shock that you get. It's

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like a hot bullet. Well,
it's so fast. Yeah. And also

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a lot of rounds that you're gonna
get shot with aren't like kind of splinter

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and stuff. It's just like in
you Yeah, you know, I don't

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know either we go. If we
talk much further, everyone who owns a

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gun listening to this podcast is gonna
be like, you're a moron, yes,

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because we don't know what we're talking
about. No, I've never been

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shot or stab nor do I volunteer
to do either, Nor are we nor

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are we any of its own fire
arms or no much about them. Well,

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I own a gun, do you? It's in Filly though you don't

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want a gun, so I don't
own a gun. You have a gun.

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I think it's like a twenty two, isn't it. No abanging a

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gun. It's a hunting rifle,
but it's a rifle. It is a

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gun. Anyway, historian tells us
that quote. Although individual aggression and vendetta

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often played a role in these violent
encounters, the real motive of force behind

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the battles was the pursuit of group
and personal honor, arising from an intense

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factional loyalty and rivalry that was strong
enough to challenge even the absolutist powers of

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the Republic's central government. So were
these teams you said, they're like artisans

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and basically it's the middle class,
right, it's it's tradesmen. Which at

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that point is is it like,
you know, team Baker versus team Blacksmith?

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Are they are the artisans sticking together? Or is it more like neighborhoods

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a little it will be okay.
Yeah. While some historians believe that the

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purpose of these fights stem from a
need to blow off steam and aggression,

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others believe the real reason the fights
began to happen in the thirteen hundreds was

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the pursuit of that group and personal
honor that we just mentioned. While there

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was a central government in Venice at
the time, there were many factions of

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association that still rivaled one another,
and this format of conflict prevented tensions from

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boiling over to civil class war,
so like, yeah, it prevented basically,

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like Venetian government was like, all
good do that. It's a light

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purge. Yeah, basically it's Greek
games, well guys whacking each other with

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giant inflatable. Yeah, but not
inflatable. I think there was one year

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that there was like dodgeball during Greek
Week and that was not renewed for the

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next year. We had a do
you not have the intery middle of dodgeball?

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No, we didn't. That's a
big thing that you see that.

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But you guys were in school when
like dodgeball was huge like that. I

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feel like when you guys were in
schools when I saw like all my friends

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on Instagram and Facebook like being in
a dodgeball league, like postgrad like dodgeball

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league. It is, but it's
not as big as it used to be.

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So older what I think, it's
just older and all of your friends

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are washed. Yeah, now kidding
me. THETA had a big philanthropy called

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Theata Dodgeball at UF and it got
banned after a couple of years because it

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got violent. Yeah, everyone would
just fight in the parking lot because you're

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up against a group of guys that
you probably fucking hate. Yeah, definitely

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want to beat and like it's not
like you're just like, you know,

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you're in some fucking Austin dodgeball league
and you show up. It's just a

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group of strangers and you're like,
all right, I'll try to win.

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It's like dudes you know or vaguely
no and don't like and here you want

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to hurt them. Every fraternity has
the same twelve dudes to play every sport.

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Yeah, oh no, it's it's
the I AM kids. Yeah.

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Yeah, no, so we don't
even know their name. He just ano

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their face and you hate them.
Yeah, you're like, oh, that's

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fucking Ka's quarterback. Fuck that motherfucker. We started a strategy for the last

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year of dodgeball where if it got
down to one dude, he just sat

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on the ground and just held a
ball in front of him, so you

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could never like really take him out. Yeah, but like if he thought

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he could catch it small, toss
it and grab it like bring other people

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in, it cost fights because they
were like, that's pussy ship, you

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can't do that. And they're like, well he can't, he can't not

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do it, Like there's no rule
strategy baby, pretty bitch. But yeah,

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it's it's annoying, but it's get
to the semis is what it is.

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Yeah, and then so I think
someone got in the guy's head.

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He's like, you know what,
fuck you and you got ticket. Yeah.

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There's a similar strategy in like,
uh gaming for like strategy games and

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shit like that that people get pissed
off about where if you are especially at

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a disadvantage or even or if you're
just a bitch from the outset, it's

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called turtling, and you set up
in like the corner of the map so

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you can't be flanked. People do
that in call of duty, I think

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I'm sure they do that too,
But in like bigger where you're in commandment,

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army or whatever like that. People, if you do that, you

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I think the worst kids. You
fight back. I remember, I think

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with Sigma new would always try to
get teams to jump offsides and just move

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up five yards at a time in
flag football. They're having hard counts in

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flag football. In in our in
our softball championship my senior year, the

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team we're playing, I think it
was Sigma kay uh, they must have

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taken twenty walks the strike zone is
hilariously small. You have to land it

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on like a thin matt. You
have to throw a certain high yeah,

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and it's like all hittable ball.
It's just like, be a man,

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what are you doing here? Wing? Never take well, you could take

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a picture to Never take a walk
in slow No, never take a walk

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unless I mean it has to be
like the dude is missing by eight feet

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for you to not swing at it
like you can. But you can take

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a pitch for sure, you get
the three balls. It's like I'm swinging

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no matter what. Yes, yeah, Have I told the story about how

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we hollowed our bats for softball?
No, we shaved our bats. Yeah,

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that's funny. We want it'd be
funny if you killed someone. We're

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striped wine driving it. Yeah,
you just took a picture's head off.

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We had kids. No business hitting
dingers out there. It's just amazing.

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Anyway. Renaissance historyans trace the Venetian
factional rivalries back to immigrants of the Realiteen

403
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Islands Realteen Islands. I don't know. Reports survive of pretend battles from as

404
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:03,079
early as eight ten between factions armed
with sharp sticks. So this is kind

405
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:06,440
of where it all started was back
like even further back from thirteen hundred,

406
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,720
so five hundred years before the bridge
thing. They were still fighting with sticks.

407
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,000
They just got a little classy about
it, okay, h While fighting

408
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,319
squads at the battles were typically composed
of forty or fifty men from the same

409
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,720
neighborhood or same occupation. So there
you go, rob. Either it was

410
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:25,759
bands of tradesmen or bands of people
from the same neighborhood. Do you think

411
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:29,559
it was like palmwood derby where everybody
will get a block and you could like

412
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,000
shave your sword or your stick,
and then somebody would just come with a

413
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:36,039
giant fucking two by four, Like, yeah, everyone got the same block

414
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:37,720
of wood to make their stick out
of, but like there's one asshole that

415
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:41,319
just put a handle on the board. Yeah, it's like I just got

416
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,920
a bat probably, I mean,
what's gonna plank? Like I said,

417
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,440
though, everyone had their own stick, Like it wasn't like they just went

418
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,480
and found them that day, Like
everyone had like that's my fighting stick.

419
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,640
Yeah, they got their special stick. Yeah, it's so probably to an

420
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,640
extent, I don't think they had
like standardized sticks, but to carve from

421
00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,480
it's like that dude in Gangs in
New York, Brendan Gleason's character and Gangs

422
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,319
New York because he's got his bashing
club. Yeah, pretty much. That's

423
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,119
I would assume it's very much like
Pine with Derby though in that regard where

424
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,519
everyone's kind of got their own pinach, their own pizzas on their stick.

425
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,200
It's all actually both of them just
have flames on the sides. Pretty much.

426
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,279
Yeah, it's block on wheels.
I'm not looking forward to doing that.

427
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,839
Yeah, do you really make my
plaint with Derby car with me?

428
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,000
Just take it over to from Ken
Sailors seuse, let make a sick look

429
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:30,799
like we're good. Just have the
list oviously. Just show your kids that

430
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,359
Boy Scouts documentary on Netflix. Yeah, I know, I almost brought that

431
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,279
up yesterday because Courtney was like,
I know, you don't want to go

432
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,519
camping because I know you hate camping
even though you were a boy Scout and

433
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:47,319
camped all the time as a kid. But Rory's gonna be in Boy Scouts,

434
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,559
is gonna be in Boy Scouts and
you are going to go on those

435
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:53,359
trips. And I was just like, so, I mean, I was

436
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,160
like, I have the remote and
I was riding, Courtney took a seat.

437
00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,480
Don't you pull up a chair.
We want to learn about sexual abuse

438
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:06,799
and largest boys organization. Yeah,
yeah, it's bad. Well people really

439
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:12,799
put the not in not tying.
Yikes. The two main factions formalized in

440
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:18,519
fifteen forty eight were the Castellani and
the Nickelode. There's also another faction,

441
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:25,519
the Palawani. They were known for
arriving at bridges in military order with their

442
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,920
squads dressed in matching uniforms. So
some people they were full kit warnkers,

443
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,440
they were tryrds, they were Oh
what was it that Dakota used to make

444
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,359
fun? I was like, the
dudes who are never in the military,

445
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,279
but we're fully would be fully fully
dressed. Yeah, these dudes like kit

446
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:45,279
full out for what just military?
Just that life. Like the people that

447
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,000
never served once do that. Yeah
a lot. There is a whole subset

448
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,480
of people. It's kind of like
they're the ones who they're the ones who

449
00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:53,039
the loudest, like ready for the
civil war, man, I know,

450
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,799
but I'm kind of scared of fat
dudes with guns. Yeah. These never

451
00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:02,880
see those videos, they're always most
accurate. I think it's just the they

452
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,200
have their own center of gravity because
I don't their planet. I saw that

453
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,319
one video where that fat guy shot
well, I do not think that there

454
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:15,480
is a whole series of fat guys
fucking targets. I read a great fucking

455
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,920
article about the start of the Ukraine
War. I think it was in the

456
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,200
Atlantic, and it was like,
dude like this guy, like this Ukrainian

457
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,559
dude was like the first round of
like foreign volunteers. It showed up so

458
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:33,920
mostly Americans and it was all these
like fucking fat bikers and ex cops.

459
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:37,759
They were doing coke constantly. A
gun would discharge in their tents like every

460
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,720
two hours. He was like,
he was like most of them left the

461
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,480
first time they were shelled. Oh
of course, like a mortar. Yeah,

462
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,079
because it's like it's not just pupus
man, Yeah, it's whistlebanks.

463
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,079
Like that's what we got out here. Most of them, mean, most

464
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:56,279
people in that in Ukraine, just
like most of people in World War One

465
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:59,880
and shit like that. They're not
they're not getting killed by bullets. No,

466
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,319
we're getting taken off the face of
the earth by fucking air. They're

467
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,480
getting killed with kindness. That's it. That's kindness is Russian for artillery.

468
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:15,559
Artillery shows anyway. Loyal to one's
faction was highly prized. Faction members caught

469
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:21,759
turning coat or changing sides to help
throw a fight could expect violent reprisal or

470
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,720
at worst, assassination. Say it
so they shoeless, joked it, they

471
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:29,799
threw the game. Yeah, so
if they if they're like, because believe

472
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:34,559
it or not. Gambling, baby, there is money involved in and largely

473
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:40,079
but it is our purse and it's
never mentioned if there's a purse or not.

474
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,519
But there's definitely side bets. There's
some dude taking action. And this

475
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:48,519
is prior to you know, there's
no Pete Rose situation where you didn't get

476
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,440
banned from the fucking stick Fighting League. Yeah, you're not getting You're not

477
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,240
getting banned from the bridge. The
bridge welcomes, all right, Yeah.

478
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,319
Weeks before the event, detailed arrangements
would be made to prepare the teams for

479
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:07,160
the contest. The passion for this
Marshall Festival on these common bridges swept up

480
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,359
the entire city. Did you imagine
that? The generates though back then,

481
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,559
but I know they're down three men, but I love the Jews on it.

482
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,240
Yeah, oh yeah, they're like
plus four hund but do you can't.

483
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,319
I knew there is live betting,
right, I mean, like you

484
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,039
see it all the time in old
movies where it's like something he gets like

485
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,680
a there's like a boxing match and
someone gets some guy gets punched in the

486
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,559
face five times in a row and
they're like, I want my money on

487
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,799
him now, and they're like,
all right, five to one on Yeah,

488
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,160
I mean they's bookieacher. I think
they're just making it up, but

489
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,640
yeah, you can get guarantee you
can lie. In fact, it was

490
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,400
probably mostly live bets. Yeah,
I mean it's probably like right before it

491
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,480
happened. You see them come out
and get to the bridge and then you're

492
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,960
like them, they're down to one
that Oh he's going into berserker mode.

493
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:52,039
Oh he's turtling. He's tartling that
he sat on the bridge, which I

494
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,680
gotta imagine it would be a terrible
move. Just get stabbed by thirty dudes,

495
00:32:55,279 --> 00:33:00,240
starts the hulk up. Yeah.
On the point a day, vendors

496
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,119
and food hawkers would also swarm to
the bridge sites. The fans of the

497
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,640
events were as obsessive as any modern
sportsman. For one afternoon, the bridge

498
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,200
became an arena. I mean,
shit, don't change, man. So

499
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:14,359
it's very much like college football if
you think about it, like, not

500
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:20,039
everything's college football, Jake, shut
up, you take that back, everything's

501
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,000
college football or fraternity life. No, if you take it back, pretty

502
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:30,160
much is so you're not excited about
like a couple like a week or two

503
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,160
from now, you know, not
really, No, looked at our schedule,

504
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,079
so no, we did, just
look at you cf schedule. We

505
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,200
can still pass this, it doesn't
matter. Just a lot of who a

506
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,200
lot of spooky towns, rob spooky
towns. Just bad. I don't road

507
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,160
trips. I don't want to take
Yeah, I know. Do you have

508
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:51,119
a heart schedule? Yeah, boo, who look at our schedule? Oh

509
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,759
yeah, we're not doing this.
We're not doing this, yeah, be

510
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:59,240
the people don't care. But your
schedule is every year. Once the battle

511
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,920
began, the water below the bridge
would be jam packed with barges and boats

512
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,359
and gondolas. It's called the goundless
where you get serenaded, yes the guy

513
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:14,840
with a stick. Yeah, they
all people would peoplege of fire. I

514
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,880
mean you're not wrong, Like the
people would pay the gondolas to get right

515
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,480
under the action. Yeah. So
basically the only water that was available was

516
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,840
underneath the bridge. Like, so
if you fell off, you're falling in

517
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,280
a boat. Yeah yeah, I
actually don't think those seats would be as

518
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,119
good as you think. You'd get
to see gnarly shit if people fell off

519
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,519
and you can see the edge.
So like one time I went to a

520
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,199
Royals game and I was in the
dugout suite and that sounds dope, right,

521
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,679
Like we are in the in a
dugout right next to the Royals dug

522
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,519
right. Now, I was netting, but no netting in here. It's

523
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,440
if somebody gets thrown off, the
bridges falls on you. Yeah, that's

524
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,480
that was actually now the bridges aren't
that big. Yeah, but you just

525
00:34:57,199 --> 00:34:58,800
you think it come right on your
head, all right, I think about

526
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,559
it. They've got a sharp stick, they're wearing like iron helmets, and

527
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,559
you need that perfect landing. Don't
kill you. They'll fuck you up,

528
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,679
you know, they'll fuck it,
probably hurt you. The point is,

529
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,079
though it was harder to see the
game from the dugout I felt than from

530
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,280
an elevated spot. Yeah, so
I mean think about this way, like

531
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:20,239
people though, would like get shit
that fell off and like take it.

532
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:23,280
That's dope, Yeah, floor seats
for like a UFC fight suck, do

533
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,920
they Yeah, because the fucking cage
is up. Oh yeah, no you

534
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,280
And that's the thing too, Like
and if you watch, if you see,

535
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,960
if you watch any baseball game,
when the players are watching the game,

536
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,039
they're up over the railing. But
we couldn't do that. We we

537
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:43,440
had we were eye level was like
the ground. Yeah, probably the liability,

538
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:47,360
right, you can't get up.
Yeah. The crowd two would often

539
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,639
become riotous, pumped up by the
wine that they were being hawked by shady

540
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:54,360
street vendors. Sometimes they might begin
throwing roof tiles off. Actually this was

541
00:35:54,440 --> 00:36:00,119
really common. It would begin throwing
roof tiles off of nearby balconies, strip

542
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:04,440
them almost entirely bear in the process. So more often than not, during

543
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,039
bridge fights, people watching from the
balconies around the bridge would just start stripping

544
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,599
tiles off and hurling them at teams
they wanted to lose. Fuck yeah,

545
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,239
dude, that sounds like the best
job. If it's pretty cool. I

546
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,000
don't want to be like, I'm
not really great. Let's stick, but

547
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:21,840
I got a fucking cannon, dude, and I will I will whip tiles.

548
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,320
By the way, I gotta kill
your property though. Yeah. No,

549
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,880
it's just like you got a great
view of the bridge fight, so

550
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,880
that's Fun's like, but don't people
get on your roof and no, no,

551
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,599
no, don't worry about it.
It's definitely not like the houses.

552
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:38,239
No, they had a vendor.
The guy's just going around ta yeah,

553
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,480
get your talles, like the classic
DC bricks salesman, you know, just

554
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,480
get your bricks brick right bricks.
Anyway, more than one event was halted

555
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,159
because of the trouble that the roof
tile throwing was causing. Look, you

556
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:58,760
need to to studo it the turtle
for the actual you need to actually turtle

557
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,800
it. You need she fields over
your head. I mean seriously, like

558
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,880
if you it was a huge risk
to not wear a helm out at once

559
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,360
the tiling started. I'm fucking sure. Yeah, if you're if you're going

560
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,800
out there, if you're raw dogging
it on that bridge, you're a fucking

561
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:19,159
lunatic. But but not wearing a
helm was also very well respected. He

562
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,079
was just a badass. People like
that guy doesn't wear a helmet. It's

563
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:25,039
kind of like the kicker with the
one bar helmet that still rocks. Everyone's

564
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:29,039
like that guy's a fucking real kicker
right there. Yeah, although I will

565
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:30,800
say, if I see like a
motorcyclist without a helmet, my only thought

566
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:37,840
ever is no, how cool was
Luke Garrit not wearing a helmet? Pretty

567
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:43,360
cool? I was corrected by the
way on that getting beamed did not cause

568
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,880
his als, But I can't imagine
it helped it did It didn't, so

569
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,840
it can exacerbate it and bring it
on. I'm bringing it early on set

570
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,400
or bring it on earlier, but
it will not. It's not the cause,

571
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:57,360
right, it's there already. I
thought it was just a wild coincidence

572
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:02,639
that he got that what it was
called. Yea, there was an exact

573
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:07,760
board scene I wrote, but never
we never produced it. Where Like they

574
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,880
were raising money to fight Luke Arrig's
disease and they didn't understand what they were

575
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,000
doing, so they just burned Luke
Arrig in effigy, thinking it was his

576
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:20,840
disease that he created the progressive research
that Luke Garrig did in his off time.

577
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:27,039
Yeah, well as well gain a
function, Yeah right, you know

578
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:31,440
that damn Luke Jame with this beakers
and lab coat well as well. Gentlemen

579
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:37,159
viewing from opposing box seats and box
seats is very loose, mainly other people's

580
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:38,960
balconies. I mean it just sounds
like, yeah, like a New Orleans

581
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,280
Marty Grass situation, or like those
apartments across the street from Wrigley. Yeah,

582
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,199
pretty much those. Yeah, they
might lively exchange words and insults,

583
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:51,960
which could lead to swords being drawn
then and there. Hell yeah, or

584
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,960
an arranged duel would occur afterwards.
And actually the amount of pissed off people

585
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,519
during the bridge fights led to a
second act, which was just everyone that

586
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,280
wanted to duel after because everyone was
horned up for violence. God, can

587
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,559
you, I mean, can you
imagine how many duels you would get in,

588
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:15,840
Like at the if the Georgia and
Florida tailgates were next to each other

589
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,800
at the cocktail party. I mean
they that sometimes happens, and it's bad

590
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:23,719
that you guys are in two separate
No, once you get at the stadium,

591
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,360
it's all jacks. Yeah, because
in the day before, day before,

592
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,440
so Saint Simon's is uh, Georgia, and then I think Saint ogg

593
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:36,039
Beach is Florida. Ok. Yeah, so if the pregame won, yeah,

594
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:37,880
we were all on the same beach. The day before, it'd be

595
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:43,119
blood bath every day. It would
just be a fucking Omaha beach. Yeah.

596
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,400
Actually, funny story from Florida,
Georgia. Last year. My friends

597
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:51,119
bought a bunch of bird seed because
they're seagulls out by all Tell or whatever.

598
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:54,519
The stadium is ever banked, and
they'd go by the Georgia tailgates and

599
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,039
just throw a bunch of bird seed
down. It's great. So like,

600
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,159
Yeah, they had a couple of
videos where just see were swarming these different

601
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:06,039
Georgia tailgates. It's just a high
level of petty that I appreciated that every

602
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:07,639
time. I think they're gonna start
doing it a lot, but they're gonna

603
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,320
get their asses kicked if they ever
get caught. Oh my god, that's

604
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,119
so funny. I'll give you one
guess who it is. Yeah, I

605
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know who it is. Yeah,
it's a guy who took out whippets five

606
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seconds into your bachelor party. Yeah, yeah, pretty much, yep him.

607
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As early as fifteen oh five,
the Venetian Council and the name of

608
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Public Order began to punish those who
assembled the fight after the Bridge Wars.

609
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Supplies if sticks had to be secured
and hidden between events, but like laws

610
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:39,719
against dueling, their efforts largely when
ignored, and we're often repeated. Gangs

611
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:45,119
of armed youths would get caught up
and find the sticks, and any excitement

612
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,000
would frequently rumble with their rivals or
the police. There's also the story of

613
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,519
this one dude. I love this
guy Tonin. He was a He was

614
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a tailor from San Luca who in
the sixteen thirties gathered about him at his

615
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,199
expense and quotes gathered about him at
his expense a large gang of youths with

616
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,960
whom he decided to assault and kill
many. My favorite recurring theme throughout history

617
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,280
is unchecked youths. You gotta watch
out for the youths. Yeah, they

618
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,280
call so much distruction. Well,
the youths. One, they're small,

619
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,920
so they can find the hidden sticks. Then they get the sticks. Then

620
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,800
they have the power. They go
to the little crevices they pop out of

621
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like tiny corridors. Every era has
their skater kids. Yeah. In the

622
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,519
seventeenth century Venice, it was youths
with sticks. Yeah. But yeah,

623
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:39,760
so this one tailor, I guess
had enough money. He's like, I'm

624
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gonna hire all of these youths and
then everyone will listen to me. He

625
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,559
was eventually killed, so he dude, that's like a city of God right

626
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,840
where it's just like all those kids
are in there, like Favella or whatever.

627
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,760
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
I mean it's kind of like I

628
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,400
think of it like a game of
Thrones with the little what is it,

629
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,199
the little birds, the sparrows,
Yeah, the high scepter or whatever.

630
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,599
Yeah, you know what I'm talking
about. He just recreated all the little

631
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:12,760
street urchins pretty much. That excuse
me. Due to the state's opposition to

632
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,519
the disorder caused by these popular pastimes, and sixteen hundred, sticks were banned.

633
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:22,480
Instead, they became full on fist
fights on the bridge. That's gotta

634
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:27,239
be worse. Well maybe not.
Well, there's a reason why they banned

635
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,440
sticks. Sticks are very much worse. No, sticks are not worse.

636
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,840
The fifths are worse. The fists
are worse. No. Yes, So

637
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,320
one reason for the transition from six
to fifths supposedly occurred in fifteen eighty five

638
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,719
when one faction ran out of sticks
during the stick fights. They throwing them,

639
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,480
but can you say break? They
break, but continue to fight unarmed,

640
00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:50,639
and the other faction matched them.
Ironically, this was not out of

641
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,119
honor, but because they could no
longer fence with their opponents and were instead

642
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,719
being punched in the face and chest
so hard. Yeah, they were like

643
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,360
still trying to hit him with their
sticks, but they were just like slapping

644
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,599
them away. And then turns out
a hand against a stick. If you

645
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:07,039
don't make contact with a stick that
sticks, fucked, you get to pull

646
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:08,119
it away and they're like, well, shit, yeah, it turns it

647
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:13,639
out though most people break their hands
punching, Yeah, because they don't know

648
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:15,679
how to get one punch. A
lot of people will just be like,

649
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:22,079
oh yeah. Because the injuries from
fist blows were readily seen to be more

650
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:25,440
significant, the other side cast away
its weapons. This eventually led to a

651
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,480
different style of fighting completely and a
shift in interest to one on one boxing.

652
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:37,519
So get this stick fighting kind of
led to the proto precursor to what

653
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:40,280
we now call stand up boxing.
Shit, I'm gonna call it bullshit.

654
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:45,360
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure boxing
has been around much longer, but in

655
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,719
an organized manner, like it's been
around for a long time, but in

656
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,159
Italy it led to it no like
as a spectator sport. In Venice at

657
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,719
least, maybe perhaps that yes,
okay, but I mean if we have

658
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,000
wrestling that dates back to ancient Greece, yeah, Jo's been around much longer.

659
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:07,480
Yeah, at least as long as
wrestling. I'll look it up later,

660
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:09,519
Okay, Yeah, I just don't
want us to get caught out again.

661
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,920
No, No, that's okay.
With like your income tax bullshit.

662
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:17,280
As I read that it sounded wrong, I was gonna stick with it.

663
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,719
We're here to have takes. Yeah, and that's my take. His take

664
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is my take is wrong. That's
fine, You're you're a fool. Because

665
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,920
of this, Venetians became well known
for their boxing skills. By the late

666
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:36,559
sixteen hundreds, Slavic, Dalmatia and
Skiovanni soldiers were regularly thrashed and thrown into

667
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:43,039
water by the jabbing skills of Venetian
boxers in actual combat, in like fights,

668
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:47,039
yeah, basically, no, like
skirmishes, like not not not in

669
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:52,079
political warfare. No, Like when
they were in Venice and they'd get in

670
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:54,000
fights okay, okay, Yeah,
they'd be drunk and they'd be like,

671
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all right, that might a fight
to you, and then they just get

672
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their ship kicked in. Yeah,
basically, so what would happen is like

673
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the Venetian boxer would be talking shit
to like a Slavic soldier, and the

674
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:12,519
Slavic soldier, I guess would get
this armed pretty quickly by the Venetian boxer.

675
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And then when it came to fisticuffs, they didn't really they couldn't fight

676
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They would like kind of just flail their

677
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yeah, because like the Venetians were so

678
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trained I guess generally and fighting each
other on bridges with their fists. They

679
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became really good fighters, but only
on bridges. Yeah, if it was

680
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:34,559
open land, they were fucked.
You put them in a field and they

681
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don't know what to do. Yeah, it's like where's the water? Yeah,

682
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last drinking bros. Eventually, one
on one boxing began to take place before

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the general bridge assaults. These duels
became more and more popular. They began

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to go bare chested, wrapping their
shirts around their waists to protect their kidneys

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from punches. So very much imagine
like below the belt. Yeah, and

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now what a boxer looks like.
They have a kind of the waist wrap.

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button or whatever. Yeah, and it's

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in other places before this, but this

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is kind of how it developed in
Venice from stick fighting. Listen, everyone

805
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,039
knows the only Italian that box was
Rocky Marciano. He wasn't Venetian though,

806
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,639
what he's Italian? It was Italian, that's true, that's true. The

807
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,000
fighters would typically where one pad of
glove of softer hearted leather on their right

808
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,480
hand. So boxing first appeared as
a formal Olympic sport in uh six eighty

809
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,880
eight BC. Okay, so yeah, so the Venetians were just way behind,

810
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,519
I guess on this ship because they
would do their own version of boxing.

811
00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:45,800
Sorry, I just had to fucking
correct you on that. No,

812
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:51,320
that's okay, it was so so
fucking wrong. I will be completely fair

813
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:53,199
to be fair to all of you. I wasn't gonna FactCheck anything. I

814
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,079
was just like, oh, because
it's a shake and it's not me in

815
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:02,239
the chair. Yeah, it's gospel
until the comments come out for me.

816
00:54:04,039 --> 00:54:07,800
Uh No, I will to be
completely fair. I wrote, I drink

817
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,639
a bunch of iquill last night,
so yeah, you like it, you

818
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:15,280
know, but this, this is
from this is from actual documents. I

819
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,840
don't know why they were doing boxing
like this then, but yeah, in

820
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,519
two days that stick fighting never existed. Jake just read like a fan fiction

821
00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:29,280
forum. I'm familiar with this because
of Assassin's Creed two. It's the opening

822
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,880
scene with Edzio. Oh they do
they really do a stick fights essentially like

823
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:37,800
a it's what you're describing. I
like that honestly, and I like me

824
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:44,400
and you have a like huge chunk
of our historical knowledge coming videos we've played.

825
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,519
Yeah, yeah, mine's just fever
dreams. Yeah apparently no, but

826
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,280
uh yeah, so sometimes their gloves
are even secretly sewn with lute strings.

827
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:58,920
So as to rapidly bloody and opponent's
face. The object of the fight was

828
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,039
not to score a knockout or to
deliver powerful punches, but to bloody the

829
00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:05,280
opponent by it hits the nose,
lip, or face. So I'm starting

830
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920
to think this is just like a
completely different boxing sport there. So is

831
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,000
it like first blood winds or just
like most blood it's pride rules. Yeah,

832
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,639
it whoever does the most damage.
It kind of is that because they're

833
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:20,079
doing one handed fist fighting. Basically, I don't know, like and get

834
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:23,159
this, oh it's Dana White slap
League power slap, but it kind of

835
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:29,159
yeah, that's what because in these
boxing matches, the crowds evidently were most

836
00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:32,639
pleased by contestants who stood their ground
and took blows to their face unflinchingly.

837
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,840
Striking out cleanly with too much dancing
or fencing around was kind of the goal

838
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:43,159
here, Like, yeah, basically
two for flinching. It's like if you

839
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:45,960
flinched or just didn't take the punch
to the face, you were a bitch.

840
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:51,800
Defensive skills were fought, Okay,
I will agree with you, Rob,

841
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,079
The sticks probably were better. Sticks
were better. If you defend yourself

842
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,119
you're letting the man punch you in
the face. Yeah. Uh defense a

843
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:06,280
defensive skills were looked down on as
not admirable because they were not displaced of

844
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,079
courage. So this is Floyd Mayweather
would be awful and he'd be booted off

845
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:14,679
the fucking the man that's never been
hit. Yeah, actually having to take

846
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:17,840
a punch. Yeah, yeah,
pretty much. So, yeah, this

847
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,880
isn't I'm sorry, this isn't the
proto precursor to boxing, obviously because this

848
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,199
power slap. Yeah, this is
the proto precursor to power slab. I

849
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:31,039
stand corrected, but still I kind
of want to watch this too, Like

850
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:36,159
just two dudes with one glove each
just punching each other back and forth in

851
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,360
the face. Dude, I gotta
introduce you to this thing called fight circus.

852
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:44,000
Yes, they'll have two men in
one shirt and they each have one

853
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:49,280
arm fight another group of two men
in one shirt. Wait, so it's

854
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,639
like a like a potato sack on
the upper body. Basically, we just

855
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:55,519
get one arm with your partner and
you both you fight two other men one

856
00:56:55,639 --> 00:57:00,199
arm, So each one guy gets
to punch and the other guy's just there.

857
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:02,920
No, you each get one arm. Oh, so one guy gets

858
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,760
left, one guy gets right.
Yeah, what and they have It's not

859
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:13,360
just that too, it's crazy shit
like that. Yeah, every fight's different.

860
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:16,000
It's the best. One of the
best named pieces of content I've ever

861
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:20,679
heard of my life. Fight Circus. Yeah, no, that's please link

862
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,320
us. Can we just watch that? We should? We should do that

863
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,679
for Patreon, Just do like a
fight Circus pay per view. Well,

864
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:30,320
despite all the ferosity and display,
the fights were fairly benign affairs and ended

865
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,800
with an embrace and, in the
most Italian fashion, a fraternal kiss.

866
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,239
Oh I hate that though. I
hate it when I see fighters that are

867
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:43,000
just like bros right afterwards, I
want to I want hate in the ring,

868
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,280
in the octagon, gonna flip them
off after like eating Gary last night?

869
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,800
Oh did you do that? Let's
we're past that, we're pasting that,

870
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,800
and we don't talk about fighting.
Let's learn. By the late sixteen

871
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,559
hundreds, there's only room for one
form of fighting, and once the sick

872
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:59,960
fighting fell out of popular favor,
it could not exist alongside the very different

873
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:04,239
fist fighting that they were accustomed to. Now, the bridge stick fights represent

874
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,920
an interesting part of Marshall Sports and
European history and shed insight on a rarely

875
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:14,719
considered aspect of Western martial culture.
Although limited almost exclusively to bridge venues,

876
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:19,599
I really wish they still did it
so I could see it. I want

877
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:22,719
it so bad, that's all I
want. Would you guys learned today,

878
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:28,360
learned that we could have had such
a cooler sport? Yeah, can you

879
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,800
imagine like UF First Georgia or UCFUS. And I don't want the ships to

880
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,280
go back to the LARPing stuff.
Like I'm sure you guys have seen videos

881
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,119
of like they will do like medieval
combat where like if you get hit in

882
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:44,599
the leg, you're leg listening out. You ain't gotta stand on one leg.

883
00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:49,199
And no, dude, they have
straight up medieval battles like in a

884
00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:52,159
boxing ring. I've seen them where
that it's like a livestock pavilion, like

885
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:55,559
basically in a bull ring. Yeah, that shit looks it's crazy. Yeah,

886
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,159
I want real shit. It's crazy. It doesn't catch on. It

887
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:05,119
is real shit. It is real
sorts. No, people get like knocked

888
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:07,519
the fuck out because they get their
bell rung so hard in the helmet.

889
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,519
Yeah, I've seen those. It's
it is nuts. Like I would never

890
00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:13,400
do it, and that is.
I honestly, I'm pretty sure that's how

891
00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:15,440
if you did die in combat,
especially if you were in like full armor,

892
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:20,639
it's more likely like you really just
got you got a blow that like

893
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:22,480
disoriented the fuck out of you,
and then you just can't defend yourself anymore.

894
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:27,199
Like you're not getting like your head
chopped off or run through typically,

895
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:29,920
I mean, you're getting killed in
the retreat. I was about to say,

896
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,559
you're probably getting your head crushed more
than anything, right, Yeah,

897
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:35,840
right, what'd you guys learn?
I told you I learned to whish.

898
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:42,480
There's the sports still fucking existed.
We have always enjoyed others just beating the

899
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,239
hell out of each other. Yeah, well, I mean, I mean

900
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,480
there is something so viscerable about I
don't really like mma, but like a

901
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:52,039
good hit in football. Oh yeah, man, no, but there's no

902
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:59,760
I have to imagine there's no greater
feeling than knocking somebody out cold in front

903
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,639
of a crowd of like twenty thousand
people. I'm sure. Yeah. Can

904
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:05,800
you imagine like a tossingham onto a
gondal I was about to say, getting

905
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,159
like a belt strapped around you.
Yeah, yeah, and you just get

906
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:13,360
to throw them over a bridge freaks
out. That'd be fun of shit.

907
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,840
Who's Hitler? No one. I'm
gonna say the guy that converted stick fighting

908
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,760
into power slap League, the Venetian
Council essentially, Yeah, that guy sucks.

909
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:28,159
I guess the guy who randomly raised
an army of children ton In Yeah,

910
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:32,239
the tailor. Yeah, I can
see him because people got him killed.

911
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:39,119
I guess always in these stories the
US, do you tweens and teens?

912
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:43,719
Teens are hitlerkater kids, skater kids
are hitler today. Yeah, I'll

913
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:47,559
agree with that. Well, that's
it for my stick fighting story. I

914
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:51,400
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918
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919
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920
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,280
was really funny that I was saving
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924
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Uh, it's a This is from
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925
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926
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927
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928
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929
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930
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killed me. Well. I definitely
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931
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,480
always, you always do. Uh. Let's who else wrote some here?

932
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:04,880
Go to the top. There's like
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933
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,000
like the one that the guy left
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934
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:12,039
Frank, Tank the Frank. Give
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935
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Please don't do four, please do
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936
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,360
boys, but sometimes there's too much
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937
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,880
response to a couple of one stars. We got about too much banter.

938
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:28,480
Imagine these people that probably earnestly came
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939
01:02:28,519 --> 01:02:30,199
history podcast about something that they were
like, I mean one of them,

940
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:34,639
one of the one stars or the
low ones. They're like, we really

941
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,960
enjoyed the topics, but there's like
fifteen minutes of history, and yeah,

942
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,320
the info is good, but if
you cut out the banter, you'd get

943
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,800
maybe fifteen minutes of content. It's
very BROI into tracks from the good info

944
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,639
they're trying to present. It's hilarious
that he's like their own worst. They're

945
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:52,360
so smart and will informed. Will
they just keep getting trying to present good

946
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:58,320
info, but they can't do it, can't get out of their own way.

947
01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:00,320
The other one is like very similar
to that, Yeah, for sure.

948
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:05,760
They oh they're like exactly the same
if it's the same person, Yeah,

949
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,079
I think then Stoner Einstein great show. I think there's some history,

950
01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:12,880
but who cares? Is enough witty
banter to keep you entertained? Perfect if

951
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,960
you want to learn a little without
sitting in a lecture. That's the goal

952
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,119
here, guys. We're here for
it's a little knowledge. Well maybe a

953
01:03:20,199 --> 01:03:23,840
laugh, maybe a chuckle, maybe
a learn. Who knows you laugh,

954
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,320
you learn? And I was so
sorry if you came here solely to learn

955
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,119
about Venetians stick fighting today, if
you had a paper on it, truly

956
01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:38,639
apologhed. You've made it this far, Yeah, kudos to you, but

957
01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:44,079
hey, thanks for stopping by,
Thanks for listening for Ron Fox and Don

958
01:03:44,199 --> 01:03:45,760
Rojester. I'm Jeff Goldman. You
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