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Hey, everybody, we'll fetch another
episode of Challenge podcast all about the Challenge.

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It's a fucking saman I swear to
god break the Internet. Geez,

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hey, everybody, it's Brian sitting
over in his bedroom once again. Is

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pig uncle sweet? See Kim Kardashian's
ass. That's what I was trying to

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think of, and I couldn't fucking
come up with their name quick enough.

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All right, the Kardashians ass.
Yeah, that was that's what originally broke

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the Internet. Right, We're already
passed that to him, all right,

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just just like the Internet, we've
moved on. I know, dude,

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I couldn't think I could think of
her name fast enough, so I sucked

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it all up. Uh and sitting
in her striped Waldo cosplays. Yeah,

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apparently, I like this sweater in
San Diego. No, I still like

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this sweater. You have no taste. Sitting at work hoping nothing happens that

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he has to be all secaredy about
it, zacky bananas. Carlin Daisy has

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a shirt that's similar but black and
white striped, and every time she wears

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it, I call her the Hamburglar
and it drives her nuts. She's like

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what's the hamburglar? Nice daisy doesn't
take to your Shenanigans? Tim, you

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heard that, yelled yelling at me
from the kitchen. Yep, Tim,

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is the heat working in your house? No, but it's like we're in

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a heat wave here in ten Illinois. So I'm not bothered by this stuff

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at all. Yeah. No,
it's totally comfortable, and it hasn't right

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now. That's good. I was
a little worried that I was going to

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be in your same situation the other
day. Oh. I came home and

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because my house is like one hundred
years old and my thermost is probably from

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the seventies, I this is all
I brought this upon myself. I should

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have just dealt with it like six
months ago, but I didn't. I

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came home two days ago and the
thermostat had died. And normally, when

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that happens, I can just replace
the batteries and it's totally fine, and

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this time it was not. And
it was like, thank god it wasn't

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the weekend before, because it wasn't
negative outside. It was you know,

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twenty five degrees or something like that, but it was like fifty two inside

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my house. A little nippy.
Yeah, but yeah, spent the whole

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evening running back and forth between my
house and home depot to get a new

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thermist at, and the first one
I got didn't work because I don't have

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the right wires and blah blah blah
blah blah. But finally got at and

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running again. Did you replace the
thermist at yourself? Yeah, it's not

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hard. I know it's not hard, but I'm very impressed that you like.

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I'm still I'm just impressed. Is
your do you have four girl?

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No? No, no, no, no, nothing like that. Do

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you have Do you have AC in
your house too? No? Okay,

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so yeah, I just have.
Yeah, I've just got radiant heat.

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No. I have thought about having, you know, central air and heat

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put in, but I don't have
twenty grant just lying around to have all

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of the ducting and everything put in. Do you need air in Minneapolis to

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get out there? Yep, but
I have. I have window units that

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I put in. I'm also a
little bit more tolerant to it than most

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people. Right, if I can
keep the windows open and there's a nice

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breeze, it's usually fine. I
Uh. Cindy's not a big fan of

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the fact that my usual top temperature
the time of year is sixty eight degrees.

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They do, She's like said,
a little bit warmer my house.

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She's here. We usually sit the
back the back room, which is an

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addition, and that room is usually
a little bit colder than the rest of

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the house. So yeah, my
house is typically set like I when I

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had the old one, I think
it was off by a few degrees,

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so I'm not entirely sure that it's
telling me the right the same thing.

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But I set this one at sixty
seven during the day, like when I'm

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up and moving around in here,
and like sixty five at night. And

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I have just roasted the last two
nights, so I put it down two

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degrees last night and still roasted,
so I have to drop it another degree.

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Yeah, me and Curly could be
roommates. Yeah, that my house,

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my house holds in It holds in
the heat pretty well, so is

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mine. So except for that back
edition room, Yeah, the rest of

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the house is double brick. So
but yeah, mine's set to turn down

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to sixty five at night. So
but then I also sleep with like two

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fans on. So all right.
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Carlin. All right, tell us
about this episode. Tell us about the

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beginning of cord Quess. Quess they
got real excited this episode. All right,

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Well, we start off with a
bunch of voiceovers like it's a it's

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a bunch of just not action shots, no people in them video. Yeah,

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with a bunch of voice over versions
of people upset that also went home

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and oh my god, the beginning
of this episode, I wanted to punch

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Jay in the face, so god, damn much no shit too. I

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do wonder if Jay solved a bit
of a mystery for us, because remember

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last time when when he went home, asof went home, all of us

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were like, why was everyone crying? Why did they care so much?

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Did he go on to like a
spiel about like how he felt bad about

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losing for his wife and his kid
or something and looking cares well, I

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wonder if that's why but he was
crying, if aesof gave him really tearful,

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like I just wish I could have
done well for my family, and

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because said something about that every he
does. He said that a few times.

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He said that he was talking about
the the wife and kids, that

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he prayed about him and this,
that and the other. But it's like,

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dude, everyone says that they that
they were upset because that they went

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home because of their family or this
or that, and who cares? Yeah,

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I don't care to me, it
was a reaction. Was so over

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the top. Yeah, oh yeah. Jay was so over the top,

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unbelievably weird during this scene. I
agree with you, Wilfi. I just

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wanted to punch him through my TV
screen. He was popping off immediately as

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soon as they got in the house. It was like, fuck off,

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Yeah, popping off of Kyland for
laughing, Like who gives a shit?

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Even if it's even if he is
laughing about awsome, Like, dude,

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you guys have been very obviously against
him for episodes now, Like if he

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wants to laugh, let him fucking
laugh. You'd be laughing if he went

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home. Yeah, Jay has no
self awareness this season, like less than

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Nune. He doesn't I ask that
mean mug and shit that he does all

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the time. It looks completely silly
on him. Yeah, he does,

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and sounds like it. He looks
he looks like a chihuahua trying to be

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a rottweiler. Yeah. Yeah,
even his expressions drive me nuts this season.

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I can't even look at the guy. Yeah he. I noted later

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on that he at one point I
can't remember where it is, it will

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come to it, but I noted
that at one point in time he said

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that he's not playing this game with
emotions. He's playing it very logically,

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and like, right, you are
only playing this game with emotions. Yeah,

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no self awareness this guy none none, which is really unfortunate because I

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did like him when he first showed
up on this show. I really liked

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him when we first got into this
house. I really liked him. Really

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he is. He's on FESSI and
Josh and Johnny Vanna's level. Now.

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I think this is what happens though
with this show. You like, you

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get a few successes under your belt
and you start just being intolerable. It

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happened to Carl Maria too. Yeah, but I will always love her.

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Some people have turned her like Wes
was intolerable. He turned it back around

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somehow. Yeah, so maybe he
can push through it. But it's right

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now by some how, By somehow, you mean by teaming up with Johnny,

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No, yeah, that's what That's
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Well, we get Corey's talking to
or No, Kylon talks to Michelle and

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tells her that Jay's popping off,
and she's She then goes and talks to

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Jay, and it's like, dude, you need it. Slow your fucking

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role, because I think she's really
you can see it, she's real tired

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of his his antics. But I
don't understand how she doesn't seem to get

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that you tied yourself to this person. Like it shows up a little bit

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later in this episode that she does
finally seem to understand it, but she

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tied herself to this person at the
very beginning, like yeah, everything that

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he does is gonna reflect on you, doesn't matter. M Yep, he's

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horrible. Yep. Then the countdown
climber timer turns on and it starts count

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down from twenty four hours and it's
dark outside and oh my gosh, people

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just losing their mind at a clock. Yeah, did you guys catch it?

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It showed it for like three seconds, Michelle counting down with the timer.

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She's like forty one, forty.
I was like, that thing's counting

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for twenty four hours, Michelle,
how long are you going to stand there

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like that yelling out numbers? Cut
to like twelve hours, She's yawning thirty

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five, thirty four. It was
very weird. It's like, why start

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counting down, Michelle, There's no
endgame here. M we do Okay.

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So this was the Jay and Michelle
sit down with Nourice and because they want

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to try and kind of bring her
back into the fold and figure out what

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happened last episode. Jay does a
great job, very diplomatic, fucking gaslights

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the ship out of both of them. I was, I was very proud

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of Nourice and Maurice sat there and
she goes, you know, why are

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you blaming this whole stalemate thing on
me? We all had an equal chance

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to change it. You could have
changed your answer. If he wanted to

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be mad at anybody, he should
have been mad at that. Yeah,

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Ed is the one that could have
fixed it. Yes, yes he is,

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but it kind of feels like Ed
is a man and he's not gonna

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do that because Nouris is a woman, and he feels that he can fuck

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that around. Yeah, Nourise doesn't
have many good points in this world that

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I found, but this is a
good one for her, you know,

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Like it wasn't just me, Like, why am I taking the brunt of

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it? Yeah? Yeah, Like
I'm not the only person on this team.

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There are men, any other people
who could have changed their votes.

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They Why are you going after me
just because you're pissed that your boyfriend went

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home? Sorry, that was rude. It wasn't me. I know,

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You're fine. You're not always out
of me this season, that's what.

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That's what he's acting like. He's
acting yea his husband, he really is.

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He's acting worse than that, though, because we have seen that in

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past challenges. We have seen relationships
where one goes home. We've seen siblings

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where people go home and he is
so upset. Yeah, but it also

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feels very inauthentic. I just don't
buy jay this. I just don't buy

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it. I don't know, it
just doesn't seem real to me. We

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didn't believe him when he was bawling
his eyes out the night before. Tim

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No so much so he defended him
to Kylon in the house, because man,

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are you it flattened about somebody talking
about their wife and their kid.

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God, but he said that.
I was like, you really, it's

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posing shit right. Everybody else has
that same impression. And this is not

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this is the first time he's ever
acted like this. It is what him

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trying to act big and bad.
It's him trying to act like he's running

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the house, right, which in
a way he kind of is, but

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it just I think Michelle is running
the house. And so that's the other

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part of this conversation is that Nourice
is finally like, no, fuck this,

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I'm not doing I'm not having this
conversation. I'm not gonna let you

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blame me for all of this,
blind lad, Like that's not okay.

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So she gets up and walks away, and Michelle's kind of like, dude,

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you need to calm down, and
he immediately is like, uh,

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I'm the reason why you're still here. I'm the one who's been protecting you.

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I'm the only reason why you're still
around, and she just looked at

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him because, excuse me, shut
the fuck up. I'm the reason you

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are still here. Like, you're
right, She's the one who's playing the

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political and social game correctly, at
least in that pair playing it correctly,

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like she is the reason why he
has not had his ass beat by half

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the time. Yes, I liked
this debate because Michelle is right. She

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knows she's right, and I think
even j knows she's right because Jay didn't

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say much else, Like, I
mean, that seemed like the end of

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it. Michelle said what she needed
to and that was over. Joe wants

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to know of everybody playing this season, not not vets as Jay played the

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most seasons. Uh no, Big
T, Oh, really is that true?

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Yeah? With the most seasons?
And I think I think Melissa came

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in second. Interesting. I would
have thought Jay was up there though.

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Isn't this like his fifth season or
something? Fifth or sixth? Really?

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Because Big T was it like six
because they mentioned that in like episode one

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or two, and I made mention
of it then because I found it very

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strange that out of this whole cast, she was the one who'd played the

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most seasons. Yeah, yeah,
I thought Jay was more than that.

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I thought this was just fifth or
sixth interesting. But yeah, So we

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also get we get a quick clip
of Zara and Raven and this is yet

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again, this is like the second
or third time that this has happened.

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Zara and Raven are talking about how
they're the two strongest girls in the house,

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and I am really confused as to
how they think that Raven is one

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of the strongest people in this house. Yeah, every time Raven's on my

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screen, I think, oh,
yeah, I forgot Raven was here.

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Yeah, she has won a bunch
of challenges, but it's because she's been

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on the winning team. She hasn't
done anything to actually win. Like one

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of the one of the challenges was
the one where they were standing in the

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tower telling people where to park cars. She didn't even do it. She

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just stood there the whole time.
She couldn't like Michelle was the one with

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who's the mouth piece up there?
Like, she literally stood there the whole

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team the whole episode. Joker brings
up, hasn't she won eliminations? She

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has, but I still just I
don't understand how she's considered one of the

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strongest people in this house. But
that might just be my own bias.

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Who knows it gives her credit in
the house. Joker says, yeah,

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yeah, I guess probably does.
I also forgot that James and Mariah were

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even in this game. There's too
many people in this game. Well you're

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in luck to Tim. Yeah,
it's like we're gonna get at least two

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people going home every episode. Good, yeah, good, that's what we

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need. Um oh and James,
Like, we get this little clip of

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James and Mariah and James saying that
his connection with Mariah is real. So

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Zach, you have some homework by
the end of this episode with your social

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media bit. I would like to
know what's between them now, if that

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really was real, how will look
came to that? Thank you? I

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bet they I bet they haven't spoken
since they left the house. I wouldn't

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be surprised. We are onto the
challenge. Oh god, damn it.

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Sorry kind of sprung it on you. What On the subject of James,

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though, Carling, can I get
your impression on this. When we see

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James with his hair pulled back and
like a ponytail, he looks like skis

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ball trash to me. But when
he's in his confessionals and he's got like

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the long flowing hair and it's soft
and it's down, I think he's strikingly

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handsome. Am I right? Or
am I? Is this me being like

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a like an a soft guy?
Did you buy chance check out the Facebook

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page in the last like three or
four days. No, is I super

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wrong about the CTA. So yeah, yeah, like I've been universally wrong

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so far. That's why I want
to test my theory. Do I have

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a point to this or am I
study? I think that you are in

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love with James and awesome because of
because of the hair. Yeah, I

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think it's absolutely nothing to do with
the person themselves. I'm kind of just

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putting it. I'm just putting it
together myself. I think that might be

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true. CET's got good hair too, it's just not as not as long.

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I was going to bring it up
later, but since we're here,

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since since Tim did not go on
the Facebook group, Heather took her took

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it upon herself in thank you very
much for doing that, Heather, that

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was very nice of you. Thanks
Heather. Does she put does she pick

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a flattering picture? Though? For
asof there's no pictures. Literally is just

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a poll, all right? And
she asked who is the most objectively attractive

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competitor still in the house. A
lot of people took issue with rewarding on

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this, which the person leave their
personality out of your opinion and the house

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voted for Horashio in the lead.
I completely forgot about him. I listened

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back to the episode and realized that
I didn't even mention him when we did.

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When I did my ranking of all
the guys that were still in there,

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totally forgot about him and ct CT
came in second, very close second.

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So it was thirty nine percent said
Horatio, thirty seven percent said CT,

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sixteen percent said ed oh wow,
okay, five percent said awesome,

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and then one percent said Jay,
James and Corey Okay, you're very wrong.

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Well, I'm not last. I
would have been like fifth place.

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You were still very wrong. No, I know, I'm okay with that.

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I'm comfortable with that. But do
I have a point with the James

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thing? Is hair down James more
attractive than hair up James? Yes,

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hair down is definitely more attractive than
hair up. But I think you are

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in love with these people because of
their hair. I think that you're I

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think you're right. Yeah, I
can't fight that anymore. I No,

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that's true. Joker wants to know
is James a bad guy or is he

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unlikable because of Mariah. I didn't
like him in the first few episodes when

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he was a cocky dipshit agreed,
and now that he is just pussy whipped

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and doing everything that Mariah tells him
to do, I still don't like him.

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I don't think he's a bad guy
though. I think he's just a

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douchebag dude. Bro. That's tough
because I feel like I could really like

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him if he played his own game. I think he's stupid. I think

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he's real stupid. And that hair
is fake, by the way, really

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like Kyle fake. Yeah, he's
like the Yeah, he's like Kyle.

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He like posts pictures and shit all
over, so he like he's one of

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these guys. You know. You
know people go to Turkey now, men

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go to Turkey for hairplants. It's
like the hair and plant capital of the

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world. Yep, he went to
Turkey. Did I lose audio again?

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All right, well we're at the
challenge. We already played the sounder,

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so uh. TJ announces that they
are in uh conquest. I just forgot

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the thing, Jack, Yes,
you did lose audio. TJ says that

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they are now playing this game as
individuals. The prize pot is sitting at

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three hundred and sixty five thousand dollars
and He doesn't mention anything here about being

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able to raise that prize pot,
and I don't remember if he mentioned anything.

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He said, that is what you'll
be competing for in my final Okay,

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that's so they mentioned. I don't
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mentioned it during an episode to the
players or if this was just like in

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a preview or what, because I
thought that it was they could earn money

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first bit, second bit, they
could lose money, third bit, they

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had to keep it, but there
were also still chances to gain some more,

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not that I remember so, and
I may have just made that up.

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I don't actually know. But yeah, he does say that they are

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competing for three hundred and sixty five
thousand, which is a significant dip from

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the five hundred k that they were
going to go to. I was just

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gonna say, this is a lot
lower than what we've seen in the last

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I mean, since thirty thirty.
Yeah, it seems like it's been half

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a mil ish. We can hear
you, Zach. Yeah, Zach humbly

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request that if you drop again,
please just stay drop nothing, no offense.

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I'm just worried about the audio.
We used the audio again, you

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know, Okay, I drop again. I'll do that, all right.

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But also Carlin, real quick,
I found a statement from Mariah and uh

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Ryan James said they're still best friends. They talk every day, but they

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decided the distance is too much.
Who could have seen that coming? Who

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could have guessed that? You know, you never really know what that's like

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until you move fourteen hours apart.
And then it's like Carlin when he when

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he moved back to Australia. You
probably never put it together that, oh,

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this might be a challenge. Oh
well he didn't move. He just

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well you know what I mean.
But yes, yeah, never thought that

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would be a challenge. Wait,
you live in different continents. How could

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you predict that that would be an
issue? Easy? Yeah? Yeah,

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however, all right, so the
challenge is called Dark Tide. It is

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a night challenge played in the which
I kind of love. Usually it's a

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good it's a good name. Yeah, it is even even like forget the

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challenge. Just someone's like dark Tide
and they're like, ooh that sounds creepy.

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Well, and it was cool.
We don't see night challenges much,

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but this one was kind of cool, like with the lights and stuff to

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kind of I like this one because
they there were lights. There were some

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lights on the things, which I'm
sure was part safety, part game,

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but there weren't like big giant lights
up above them showing what they were working

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on and where they were at.
And I was really happy to see that.

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Like it the moment that they got
dumped off the well, I'll get

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here. I'll explain the game.
The game is played in three different rounds.

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Five people at a time are seated
on these two platforms hanging off the

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sides of a speedboat. As the
speed gid boat comes up to the course,

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it drops them off the sides of
these platforms. They then have to

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swim from where they get dropped to
a paddle board and then take the paddle

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board to three different station, three
different booi's, and pick up three different

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sized rings. Once they've got all
three rings, they have to get to

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shore and toss the rings onto a
pole. And as soon as they make

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their first ring on the pole,
their time is finished. Yeah, when

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they get dropped off the When the
first group got dropped off of the speedboat,

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it got real dark almost immediately.
Oh, this is great, This

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doesn't happen normally. Usually they're all
kinds of lights everywhere, so I really

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appreciated that. Yeah, it was
cool. And I see spans online talk

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about they don't like it when you
can't see all the action. When that's

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like, you know, things are
cut too quickly or shot weirdly and you

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can't see what's going on. I
think this one was this benefited from not

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seeing it exactly, like you just
sort of see colors in the background at

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different distances, and I don't know, I thought it was kind of a

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cool If this is in the daylight, I don't think this would looked as

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interesting to me. Well, I
think it would just look like any other

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challenge, And I think it just
added an l meant of like, oh,

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this is kind of fun a little
bit of mystery to it, which

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I liked. Uh TJ does give
everyone the warning that if they cannot do

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this, then they will not be
able to do the final So I think

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that there is going to be a
very long, very big leg that's going

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to be in the water. Will
say, it seems like there's almost always

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a water leg, so I wouldn't
they have not a water leg in a

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while, Like War of the Worlds
was entirely in the desert. They they've

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had quite a few where they have
not had water at all. Yeah,

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they've also had quite a few without
any eating. I hope you have eating

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well. He so when they did
the eating challenge earlier this season, he

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again said something similar to this,
which makes me think that those are going

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to be two parts of it.
Yeah, yeah, been big part of

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the finals for a long time.
Yep. He then drops the bomb of

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if you come in last place during
the challenges in Conquest, you are automatically

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purged from the game. Good,
finally, right, finally finally, And

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they they said that this is the
individual portion of the game. Though,

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does that mean that every challenge from
now it is going to be all individual

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no more? I believe, so
teams and stuff? Okay, good,

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that's the impression that I got.
Good, I hope so. Yeah,

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m oh, I just lost my
place in my notes. Sorry. Raven

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almost rounds. Yeah, so Jaye
doesn't know how to do the thing.

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We get to the game. Mariah's
really worried because she doesn't like water very

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much. Nourise is super worried.
Nourice, Raven, Mariah. Quite a

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few people did not do very well
with the paddle boarding thing. They could

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not seem to get the paddle boarding
down. Uh before Yeah, I noticed

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at one point in time Raven was
like Holy, her paddle upside down with

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one hand and like trying to I
don't know what she was. It was

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very odd. I'm like, that's
that doesn't that's not intuitive. I don't

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understand how you're doing that. But
I think there's just some people We've talked

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about on the show a lot.
There's some people that just get it,

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like they're athletic, they just sort
of understand the physics in sort of a

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natural way. And then there's some
people that just cannot get it and and

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will not and I think Raven's one
of those can't get it. Gotcha Well,

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So of the three rounds, the
first place winners were Horacio, Kylind

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and Ed and all three of them
seemed to just kill this challenge. And

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then the losers were Raven, Mariah, and Oh I lost the last way

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to go, uh Berna. Berna
just seems to have just like she just

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happened to be the slowest of that
of that heat. She didn't seem to

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have any real problems, but Mariah
and Raven really had a tough time trying

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to get the paddle board to move
the way that they wanted it to.

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Goose Fors said in the chat room. Apparently Kylon's heat meant first and production

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put the lights on the wrong side
of the paddle boards by mistake. That

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heat finished before anyone realized what had
happened, and then production fixed it for

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the next two heats. So Kylon
was top three rowing a backwards paddle board,

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just a minor mistake that, of
course had no effect on the game

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whatsoever. The wrong side of the
paddle boards, you know, I don't

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understand what he means. He was
on the paddle board backwards. Yeah,

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but why why does it matter where
the lights were at? Because I think

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they put the lights on a certain
side to like tell the players which sides

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in front, which side of the
back, Like, oh, okay,

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I was thinking left or right,
And he wrote his paddle board backwards,

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and goose Force is pointing out there
was such a dramatic, you know,

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gap between who ends up winning this
competition. Yeah, you know, letting

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them redo it wouldn't been part of
the plan, since you know, wouldn't

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have made a difference. Well,
yeah, it was. So we get

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down to the end, and as
always it's separated by seconds. The last

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place players were Mariah and Raven and
Mariah is they're both on the edge of

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tears. I shouldn't say this,
but I'm going to Mariah's nos job is

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distracting. It is it's like a
straight up like Isaucily's triangle in the middle

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of her face. She has a
nose. It's very well, no,

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it's it's very pointed and very like
the tip of it is very tiny,

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and it's just distracting to me.
I've never looked at her face, so

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I have, and I agree with
you. I feel weird about saying these

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things because I just it's thereby they
can do whatever they want. But Zara,

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I feel the same about her lips. It's these women, it's this

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and the men too probably have like
it's a weird like it's a it's a

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mental yeah. It's for a lot
of the guys. It's the teeth,

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yeah, and the hairlines as we
as we discussed, and they take steroid.

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The men are definitely taking steroids for
similar reasons. It's like a body

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dysmorphia thing or something. Oh,
I was listening to a side tangent real

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quick. I was listening to a
podcast on my way home today and they

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they were talking about a picture from
an article that came out that was in

407
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,680
like a I don't know, Cosmo
or something like that in ninety seven.

408
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:45,160
And it's a picture of Mariah Carey
and the the caption on it is like

409
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:52,039
fat thighs or something like that,
and she like it goes on to this

410
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,200
like, oh, her porky thighs. And I can't believe that she even

411
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,359
had the she was even willing to
get up there. And she's just like

412
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:04,119
a She's in a very short dress
and she is maybe like at max A

413
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,039
size four. She is tiny.
But you look at this picture and they

414
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,920
were they were complaining about her thighs
and like, I don't even think her

415
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,599
thighs would touch if she put her
legs next to each other. I think

416
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,000
it was the nineties. Everybody wanted
the Kate Loss heroine loss heroin. She

417
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:29,759
yea. But I mean we wonder
why this, why, especially in this

418
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:33,039
day and age, have such massive
boss and body dysmorphia. It's all gross,

419
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,759
it is. I think it's very
sad. I feel I feel horrible

420
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:41,359
for what these people have done to
their bodies. Yeah. Yeah, so

421
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,839
I know that I shouldn't have said
it, and you know, if she

422
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,440
can then she can have it.
But it just I found it very distracting.

423
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:56,480
Uh yeah, Ultimately Raven is the
one who loses. Good riddance.

424
00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:03,240
Bye. I was bummed because okay, yeah, all right, not with

425
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,400
you. I thought you were abummed
to see to see Raven. Okay,

426
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,440
I don't really care about Raven.
And I wondered Mariah to go home because

427
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,799
it would have blown up a lot
of stuff that happen in this episode.

428
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,000
Yes, it would have absolute.
That was why I wanted her to go

429
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,079
home too, because that that side
of the house would have lost a number

430
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,519
rather than the smaller side of the
house, and they would have lost a

431
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,640
number who seems to be like a
big player in the background. Yeah,

432
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,359
it's like Raven. It seems like
she had zero impact on the game,

433
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,640
right or is this just me not
even realizing who she is? Well,

434
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,640
she started she started switched sides,
which helps. Yeah, but I mean

435
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,759
she was kind of flipping flopping all
season. Yeah, it was it was

436
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,640
more like she was the one that
always said she was gonna but never actually

437
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:52,519
did it. Right. Yeah,
but yeah, so Raven goes home and

438
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,880
then first place when it's you know, these guys absolutely killed it. They

439
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,119
were the absolute top. I can't
remember if he said in this one it

440
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,960
was cut by a few seconds,
but I'm sure they cut that on the

441
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,880
on the cutting room floor. It
was between Ed and Harassio. And again

442
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,119
because I really didn't want the big
Alliance to win. I was really hoping

443
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:22,319
that Harassio had won. But Ed
wins and yeah, I mean, good

444
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,759
for Ed, but I hate that
that alliance won yet again, I do

445
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,000
too. And I thought Ed might
be a little bit of a wild card

446
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,279
because what he did, because by
you know, with tying it up and

447
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:32,799
stuff, I thought Ed would be
like, this is your shot, Ed,

448
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,319
like you can do you can?
Yeah, you can. You can

449
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,000
shake the house up a bit.
Yeah. Whoever, whatever alliance he picked

450
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:42,960
is his first pick. That's who
would have won the draw, you know,

451
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,359
And it's yeah, it's always that
way. Yeah. So TJ then

452
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:52,279
tells Ed the nominations are going to
be a little different. Ed is going

453
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,400
to have to save someone, and
then that person is going to have to

454
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,440
save someone, and so on and
so forth until they end up with three

455
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,920
people and those three people are going
to be taken away and compete in a

456
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:09,720
private elimination. Congrats, MTV,
you introduced a game mechanic. I actually

457
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:15,079
really really like Well maybe you can
remember what season was this played on,

458
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:22,920
because they did this in another in
another season the Due. Yes, yeah,

459
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,319
I don't like this at all,
you know, I don't know if

460
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,240
we want to talk about it now, Yeah, why don't you like it?

461
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:30,319
At the end of the show?
No, tell me why you don't

462
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:38,319
like it so specifically? Now,
no matter what, uh, unless Hiratio

463
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,759
or Kylon win, they're going to
get swept out of this game. So

464
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:46,119
it's going to be super boring and
for the entire rest of the season unless

465
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:49,680
they get a wild card winner who
can shake it up, you know.

466
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:53,839
Yeah, and was that wildcard winner
league? Yeah, him or Colleen,

467
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,880
And Colleen's not gonna win. Then
if Hirasio and Kylon go home, guess

468
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:06,559
but a guess who's gonna try to
eliminate as many women as possible because we've

469
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:10,400
seen that happen on multiple seasons of
the show. And since it's not gender

470
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,599
divided, anybody, can you know, pick whoever they want, They're gonna

471
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:20,519
start coming up with plans like,
well, let's pick it so it's all

472
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,199
so it's three women in the elimination, so none of us guys have to

473
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:29,480
go. So they're gonna fuck over
as many people as they possibly can,

474
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,480
which I know is the point.
But they're gonna make it as boring as

475
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:36,119
possible until the end of the episode
to end of the season, and once

476
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,760
all the enemies are gone, they're
gonna try to start kicking out all the

477
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,760
women. Yeah, because that's how
this show, unfortunately works. I don't

478
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,880
know. I see your point,
Wolfe, and I could see it going

479
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,559
down that way. I guess.
I hope. I hope that there's somebody

480
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,440
at some point during this line,
like a Colleen or somebody says yeah,

481
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,480
of course I'll vote the way you
tell me to. But then she doesn't.

482
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,360
She like mixes it up and does
something else. There's an opport unity

483
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,440
for somebody to kind of fuck something
up. Whether one we'll see that or

484
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,480
not. I guess we don't know, but I hope we don't. Yeah,

485
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:08,960
but then people people had and you
know we're jumping ahead, people had

486
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:13,920
viable options. Colleen could have been
like fuck this group. Yeah, she's

487
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,159
been saying for the past five episodes. Yeah, and still didn't do anything

488
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:20,239
Like there were times where Burnham was
saying, fuck this group, like,

489
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,159
yeah, there's I agree. I
think I think that this elimination method or

490
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:35,559
this uh nomination method would have been
beneficial, like maybe in Chaos or in

491
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,239
the first thing in this in the
season, whatever it was, I don't

492
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,800
remember anymore. Conquer. Yeah,
you think it's too late. The lines

493
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:52,039
are drawn line so heavy too.
Yeah, i'd I don't know if it

494
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,119
will go like for an all Man's
final though, because you're telling me a

495
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:59,599
figure of her Ato and Kylon the
Jade's gonna want to run against them Manuel

496
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:05,239
and add in the final against instead
of like you know, Nourics or Mariah.

497
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,840
Well, I mean, they may
end up start going, Okay,

498
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,719
who's at the bottom of our alliance? Guess what that's Colleen, Guess what

499
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,719
that's Burnot, Guess what that's.
Yeah, I think that they're gonna be

500
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:20,480
the women try and get them out
more than the men. But I mean

501
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,679
they could. But I feel like, I mean, as much as I

502
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,760
dislike Jay right now, I would
like to believe he's smart enough to be

503
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,760
like I would rather run a final
against Colleen than against ed. I think

504
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:36,920
someone that you would think that someone
like Johnny Banas would think that same shit,

505
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:40,199
but he still wants to get all
of He many years ago wanted to

506
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:43,800
get all the women out. They
all did. It's just how it is.

507
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,280
They they perceived the weaker players as
the women, and they want to

508
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,079
get the women out because of that, and no one thinks about how,

509
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:54,119
oh I should probably keep them so
that I can go only against weak players.

510
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:58,679
And they did it. They've already
done it this season. Yeah,

511
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,880
when there was no like it's a
guy's days a girl's day, They're all

512
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,239
like, well, let's make it
a girl's day. Everybody vote for a

513
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,639
girl. So I mean they've already
started. Yeah, But also think the

514
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:14,119
strategy of who you eliminate in targets
a lot different in the beginning of a

515
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,480
season versus like right before a final. I mean, but it's all these

516
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,519
people are stupid. Yeah, I
still don't think that they're going to try

517
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:23,519
and get out. I think they
tried to get out the top players in

518
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:28,199
this episode because all three of those
top players were on the other alliance.

519
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,119
Yeah, which I guess we can
continue. I don't know. I just

520
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:36,360
think like and I know Kylin Prossen
said that, I think once they're gone,

521
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,039
everyone in that majority alliance is turning
on Ed first and foremost. I

522
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:46,199
think Ed's first one gone. I
guess we'll see. I think the sending

523
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,639
home the last player too for the
next several rounds is that could potentially change

524
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:53,519
the big game in a big way. I think I think if Jay went

525
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:58,079
home this time instead of Raven,
you know, yeah, I mean Mariah

526
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,000
was in the second to last place. Yeah, there was a legitimate chance

527
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,920
that she could have gone home.
Yep. That would have really shaken up

528
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,000
their alliance. Yeah, so that
can really change if one of the big

529
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:12,280
alliances get sent home and then one
of the small alliance wins. Like the

530
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,960
numbers are really like that shifts Thumber, that could shift you know, so

531
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:20,400
what see. Yeah, and Raven
tweeted out during the episode that during her

532
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,559
heat one of her rings got caught
in a wave and drifted away and so

533
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:29,280
she had to spend like thirty to
forty seconds chasing after it. So had

534
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:37,559
that not happened, Mariah possibly goes
home. Interesting, Well, we get

535
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,159
back to the house, but wait, we're not at the house. We're

536
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:45,840
on a day out on a boat, so instead of club night, we

537
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,000
get boat day, which is not
really anything. We're on it for a

538
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:53,679
few minutes and then they get back
at the house. Thanks for a great

539
00:38:53,719 --> 00:39:00,400
audio when people are trying to talk
to each other and you just hear like

540
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,760
like in the background the whole time. Yeah, I gotta tell you,

541
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,559
guys, sound of the wind.
I watched this episode twice. I do

542
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:13,159
not remember them being on a boat
really. No, was it Nourise and

543
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,760
Olivia. Yeah, they're they're talking. They're having a big conversation about what

544
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,679
they're gonna do. And then nurisas
like, even though my brother, even

545
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,199
though my brother said that she's talking
about me, I'm gonna choose to trust

546
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,000
her. And that's when they're like, oh, I got your back on

547
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,320
the really solidify their alliance. How
did you miss that whole time idea two

548
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,039
or three minutes in the middle of
the episode, no recollection. Yeah,

549
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:40,159
and I watched it twice. I
don't know. Michelle also during this episode,

550
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,719
during this section of the episode,
says that her like, there's a

551
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,880
scene of her hugging Jay that is
way too long. I'm saying that,

552
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,079
you know, I've always got your
back, and then she does. In

553
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:57,840
her little talking head, she says
that her and Jay's issue are purely communication

554
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:05,519
based. I'm like, aren't most
issues communication based? Yeah? I think,

555
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,360
yeah, I think. I don't
think that's a flex in the way

556
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,440
that you think it is. Yeah, they're not hitting each other. Yeah

557
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:19,039
right, it's just Yeah, things
have come out of these people's mouths.

558
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,440
I think everybody's hating on Jay,
and I think Michelle's trying not to.

559
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,159
But I bet he's acting like a
douche, I know. But I bet

560
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:30,000
Michelle's hating on Jay too. She's
just trying to say nice things or something.

561
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,119
So yeah. Then we're back at
the house. We get James and

562
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:40,960
Mariah fucking in a pool, getting
all cuddly, and Mariah talking about how

563
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,239
he's sweet and cuddly. I don't
I don't care. Yeah, I don't

564
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,559
care either. Yeah that's James Murray. I think, not invested in this

565
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:53,079
relationship, do not care. It
annoys me so much because I feel like

566
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:57,199
James is someone that, like,
I could really really like and root for

567
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,239
if he wasn't like just following Mariah's
lead blindly. Why what is it about

568
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,159
him that you like? He just
seems like such a nice guy, and

569
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,599
I feel like he's a decent athlete, and if he just you know,

570
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,039
like had a mind of his own
and was like, as, when is

571
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:16,119
he shown that he is both nice
and a decent athlete, Like he gassed

572
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:21,000
the fuck out in his elimination,
and almost every talking head that we've gotten

573
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:24,280
from him that isn't saying something along
the lines of how Mariah is my only

574
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:30,119
ally now and I'm going to do
everything she says. He's talking shit about

575
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:35,960
everybody else because when he's talking about
Maria, he just seems like he's just

576
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,639
such a nice, lovely man.
Yes, and we talked about it last

577
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,760
week. Did he Yes, he
got down his elimination, But then we

578
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,119
said he killed it in that mini
final, like he did not guess out.

579
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,480
Yeah, he didn't guess out in
the mini final. But I still

580
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,119
think that that's probably because his team
was going at the pace that works for

581
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:58,199
him. But yeah, athletically,
I don't know. I'm just not invested

582
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:00,159
in him. The only thing I
know about him is that he hooked with

583
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:05,599
Mariah. I couldn't tell you,
yeah, a single thing about him other

584
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:10,719
than that. Yep, Yeah,
I'm so I'm just gonna say, maybe

585
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,679
it's just I'm deceived by his uh
his beautiful good looks, but like kind

586
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:16,880
of just like most of the guys
they're like, no them, like that's

587
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,679
a good competitor, but like someone
like a Cory or j I feel like

588
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,639
if I see him versus them,
verse j or James in a like elimination,

589
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,800
I'm just gonna assume that James is
no window because he looks like you

590
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920
should. Yeah, but there are
plenty of guys who have over the years

591
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,199
have looked like they should fail miserably. That's true. James is not that

592
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,119
much bigger than Corey. He's a
little more cut looking, but I think

593
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:47,920
they're about similar size. Remember Roganrogan, Yeah, yeah, he died on

594
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,079
that mountain. Yep. His back
tends seizing up before he even got to

595
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,559
the top. Yep. And yes, says they all lose to Jordan,

596
00:42:55,639 --> 00:43:00,480
All these beefcakes lose to Jordan,
who doesn't look particularly beefy. Yeah no,

597
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:05,679
he does not, Rogan. I'm
into his credit and his gameplay.

598
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:12,280
He does hold the he holds the
record for being the first Brit out and

599
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,480
also the first brit to ever win. Yeah, so good for him.

600
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:23,719
We need a Rogan really. Yeah, there was someone put a clip of

601
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:31,039
the Rogan versus Jay elimination from a
few years ago when Rogan just absolutely smashed

602
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:34,840
him into the ground, like picked
him up and threw him on the ground.

603
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:38,079
Yeah, that was back when I
liked Jay and when I felt really

604
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:46,559
bad about about the Rogan elimination.
But the show needs villains, and Jay

605
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:52,039
is a bad villain. Like he
just makes me mad. Rogan was a

606
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,480
great villain because he, like,
I don't know, he just loved it.

607
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:57,880
You could tell he just owned it
and he was into it and it

608
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,280
didn't give a shit because he was
funny with it and he was funny and

609
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,719
self aware. Wess has made such
a good villain over the years. That's

610
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,559
why Johnny Bananas has made such a
good villain over the years. Yeah,

611
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:13,000
because they're funny with it and they
don't take it too seriously. Yeah,

612
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:16,599
Jay take notes. Jane needs notes. I think Jay Price seriously thought he

613
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,079
was the hero of the story at
the time this was filming. Oh one

614
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,119
hundred percent. Yeah, somebody else
says it. I forget who says it

615
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,039
in this episode, but somebody says, like, oh, the power is

616
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:29,079
going to Jay's head. It's even
the house sees it. I think.

617
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:35,800
Yeah. So there's a lot of
talk about the how the nominations are going

618
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,880
to go in this next little bit, and the big Alliance kind of plans

619
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,679
it all out, and they and
I think Jay came up with the idea

620
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,760
of we want Harasio, Kylin,
and Zara to be the last three in

621
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:54,480
there, and I want to make
Nourice be the person who chooses between her

622
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:00,760
best friend Olivia and her boyfriend Horassio, which is a real dick move.

623
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,480
Smart though, I mean it's smart. It is smart. But for someone

624
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,320
who at the beginning of this game
was in such a tight alliance with this

625
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:15,159
woman and who was supposed to be
such a good friend of hers to then

626
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,920
pull this shit, it's like,
God, you just look like an asshole.

627
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,119
Yeah, dick move, Yeah,
super dick move. But it is

628
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:30,960
smart. I'm not gonna lie.
It's very smart. It doesn't give him

629
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:34,320
I don't think it gives quite the
payoff that he was looking for, because

630
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,519
I think he was thinking that Hirasio
was gonna be really upset if he didn't

631
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:42,159
get picked. But yeah, and
I guess this is the bad part too.

632
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:44,960
About this when there's just kind of
two big alliances and you do this

633
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:49,760
pick pick pick thing. Yeah,
they were able to perfectly orchestrate three people

634
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,039
going into elimination, which is sort
of a bullshit thing. And I hope

635
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:57,480
somebody throws a wrench into that,
into that plan at some point. Yep.

636
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:07,800
So we're on denominations. Oh shit, m h uh. TJ pops

637
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:14,280
up at the house while everybody's just
chilling at the pool. Always bad news

638
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,960
when TJ comes around. Yeah,
but this was this was like, okay,

639
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,400
bad news and this is this is
like old school too. Yeah.

640
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,000
TJ used to show up and then
they would do the who's going into elimination?

641
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,960
Ye. I always liked that.
It's fun seeing TJ at the house,

642
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:31,639
just because it kind of sets everybody
on edge. Yeah, it's kind

643
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:35,719
of weird that this time we took
him like into a forest. Yeah,

644
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,000
it was a weird fucking place to
do that. I think it's the same

645
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:43,519
place they've been doing their nominations.
Has been sitting down that home time,

646
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:45,400
and this time they were standing.
It made it seem so much weirder.

647
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:52,079
I don't know why. Yeah,
so he takes him over there and ed

648
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:57,920
starts it and he says, you
know, I got saved last week,

649
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,880
and the other guy that was down
there with me the could have potentially gone

650
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,599
in was Emmanuel, so I'm gonna
save him. And I found this kind

651
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:09,960
of Strangeca's normally they do normally it's
forced guy girl, like you have to

652
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:16,039
go male female. But I did
notice that they didn't pick more than two

653
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,800
in a row. So it wasn't
like two or three guy. It wasn't

654
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,800
three guys in a row. They
did two guys in a row one point

655
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,159
in time, and then switch to
a woman. So I wonder if that

656
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,239
was the like you can do two
guys, you cannot do three. You

657
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,360
have to pick. It has to
somewhat be switched back and forth. Yeah.

658
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,199
Interesting, okay, but yeah,
it goes off without a hitch,

659
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:42,639
exactly like Jay One wanted it to. And ultimately it ends up being Nourise

660
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,199
having to pick between Harasia or pick
between everyone who's down there, and it's

661
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:54,519
Kylon, Harasio, Olivia, and
Zara, and well before this, Nurie

662
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:58,679
is down there and James is the
one who picks Nourie, and Zara is

663
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,760
completely convinced that j is going to
pick her because they've been in an alliance

664
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:07,599
since the beginning of the game is
they're the Brits. And then James picks

665
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:16,199
Nourice and Zara is completely blindsided and
Maurice is really pissed because she now has

666
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:22,599
to pick. And this is where
we've talked about this before. Hirasio kind

667
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:28,679
of you know, trying to when
he said thank you for throwing him into

668
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,239
elimination, all that sort of thing. This is one of the times that

669
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:35,239
I didn't feel like it was insincere
when he told Maurice, pick one of

670
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,239
the girls. Don't pick me,
pick one of the girls. You're given

671
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,480
too much credit. I think this
is the same amount of sincerity as the

672
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:45,119
rest of it. He says the
shit like he says the like the boy

673
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:49,800
scout stuff. That's who Harassio is. Yeah, and it's just I don't

674
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,159
know, now, I just kind
of roll my eyes. I think I

675
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:58,559
just appreciated him even saying it.
I've never had a problem with Hirasio's boy

676
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:01,000
scout stuff, No, until this
season, where it just seems like that's

677
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:05,599
all he is, that's the that's
all that exists. He's been on two

678
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,480
seasons. Yeah, that's enough.
That's enough from him. I guess technically

679
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:10,599
one and a half. Yeah,
but see this is what I like.

680
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:14,480
I've said this before. He works
as a side character. I like him

681
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,880
in that role, as the side
character of like, oh look at bananas.

682
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,159
He's a big fucking garbage man.
And then Harassio is the boy scout.

683
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,239
I like that. I don't like
him as a main character. I'm

684
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,440
bored. I'm bored of him.
Yeah. I think it's because we also

685
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,800
see a love interest there, but
it's so PG that it doesn't feel like

686
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,159
it. Yep. So ultimately,
in a reasons of picking Olivia and we

687
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:45,039
have Zara, Harassio, and Kyland
going into the elimination exactly what they wanted.

688
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:47,119
Son of a bitch, they got
what they wanted. Smug face.

689
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:54,880
O god, he's sitting on the
couch. Yeah. Oh, this is

690
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:00,119
when he says that he isn't playing
this game with emotion and immediately goes into

691
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:07,079
explaining why he decided that Maurice and
Olivia needed to go down there, and

692
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:10,079
it was because they didn't care about
him and the Lea alliance. Like that's

693
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:15,760
you're telling me that you're not playing
with emotions, but then you're upset because

694
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,320
the girls don't care about you enough. This guy has no self awareness,

695
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:25,400
absolutely none. Yeah, you can't
have both, can have both? Then

696
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,400
it was earlier. I think he
was like talking about how Reice and Olivia

697
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:35,239
were working with Kylon and whatever.
They're so stupid they don't even realize they're

698
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,639
just using them. I'm like,
yeah, everybody uses everybody in this show.

699
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,880
Jay, that's how the show works. Moron. Yeah, that guy's

700
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,760
high on his own supply. Man. I hope he watched this season and

701
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,079
just yeah, it's full of regret. Yeah, and he's so sincere about

702
00:50:52,119 --> 00:51:00,760
everything, right, he needs serious
crow he just eat his own that too.

703
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:07,519
To shove a crow up his ass? Need it gross? Ask crows

704
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:14,519
too far separately? It's okay,
combine him it's gross. Yeah. Uh.

705
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,480
Nurie and Olivia are commiserating about how
they even got into this position where

706
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,199
they had to pick between the two
between each other, not between each other,

707
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,719
where Nuris had to pick Olivia over
Hirasio, and how they even ended

708
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,880
up at the very bottom of this
list. And Zara is sitting there talking

709
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,800
with him and she's like, I
never want to talk to James again.

710
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,000
He backstabbed me. I don't want
to talk to him again. He's lost

711
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,960
all myriage, BacT, he's lost
my friendship. I don't want it.

712
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,840
Which like he would think that if
they were such good friends that he would

713
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,880
have at least come up to her
after this and been like, hey,

714
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,679
sorry, But we don't get a
scene of that, so I don't know

715
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,639
if that actually happened. Is this
where they're actually at the elimination? Are

716
00:51:55,639 --> 00:52:00,079
we not there yet? No,
we're going there now. This is afterwards,

717
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:09,639
when they're sitting on the stair,
Sorry came up. Yeah, all

718
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:15,239
right. There's no name for this
elimination. It is just a conquest elimination.

719
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:21,840
TJ has taken the three players and
they have gone off site. He

720
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,360
explains the game as a race.
There are three different obstacle courses set up

721
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:34,440
with puzzles at the end, and
you have to once the timer starts,

722
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,880
you have to do all three obstacle
courses and finish all three puzzles. You

723
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,280
can do them in any order you
want. You can do them if other

724
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,119
people are at that puzzle, you
can still go to that puzzle and do

725
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:52,280
it, and the first person to
finish all three is the winner. Or

726
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:58,599
first two to finish all three stay
in the house. Zara says that she's

727
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:01,920
not the brightest cookie in the joke, which made me laugh. Yeah.

728
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,960
Once she said she's not good with
the number. It's not good with a

729
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,320
puzzle. It's like, all right, say Azara, Yeah, I know

730
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,840
you're fast, but this is three
puzzles in a row, and that's the

731
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,000
thing. Like she said that she's
fast, but then immediately off the starting

732
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:19,960
line, the guys beat her by
a solid, like a good twenty thirty

733
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,119
feet Yeah, which doesn't sound like
a lot, but yeah, she was

734
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:27,480
already behind from the very beginning.
Yeah, not to jump to the end,

735
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:30,159
but I'm good anyway. It ultimately
wasn't close. I don't think The

736
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:36,400
two guys finished and Zara had just
barely started her sudoku. She needed another

737
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,079
like ten minutes, you know.
Yeah, I think her. I think

738
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:43,719
her One of her big mistakes was
doing the easier puzzles first, Yeah,

739
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,480
and not doing the harder puzzle first, because you're exhausted by the time you

740
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:54,199
get to the harder puzzle. You
have also you also have the added bit

741
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,400
of the guys are going through the
easier puddle. The puzzles and finishing than

742
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:05,320
the faster and together and together so
really quickly. The puzzles are. One

743
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,360
of them is a number puzzle that
kind of it's set up kind of like

744
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:14,039
Sudoku, but all of the rows
and columns have to equal forty five.

745
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,039
You can't have a repeating number in
a rower column. The second puzzle is

746
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:24,639
three concentric circles that have letters on
them and you have to twist the wheels

747
00:54:25,039 --> 00:54:30,400
twist the circles to complete to make
six three letter words that have to do

748
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:36,159
with the body. And then the
third one is you have to rearrange colored

749
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:40,079
dots so that only one color is
in each column on this board, and

750
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,800
the board is a slider board,
so you can't pull the dots out,

751
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,119
you have to slide them all around. What do you guys think of this?

752
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,679
I liked it. This is very
Survivor esque. Survivor did this for

753
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:58,320
a long time where it's like everybody
just kind of goes to these little stations

754
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,159
and whoever beats all the stations first. So I like that. I like

755
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:05,079
puzzles. I like races. This
is sort of like a mini Final esque.

756
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:08,559
There's some endurance, there's some speed, there's some puzzles logic, no

757
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,440
big complaints. It seems pretty fair
gender wise, Like I think men and

758
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,079
women can compete against us pretty fairly. I don't like that the two men

759
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:20,920
teamed up like that seems a little
uh not super fair, but I wasn't

760
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,679
super thrilled with that either. I
Also, I think the only thing that

761
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,679
I the only real complaint that I
have about the game is that the letters

762
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,199
one, the one where you had
to sell spell out three in the letter

763
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,840
words about the body, seemed really
easy. Yeah, Like I feel like

764
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,599
they needed to have something that was
a little bit more that it took a

765
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:42,039
little bit more brain power. Yeah. Do you guys like that they isolated

766
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:46,559
everybody away from the house? I
do. Yeah, Well I can take

767
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:51,920
it or leave it. Yeah.
I always like when they do the isolated

768
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:59,239
eliminations because you can you get the
chance of people like really freaking out the

769
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,639
rest of the house. Yeah,
And I always find that entertaining. One

770
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:07,679
of the things I appreciated in this
episode, and they better keep doing it,

771
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,199
is not doing that ship where it's
like, oh, it's so close,

772
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,440
and then they just cut back to
the house and we don't see the

773
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,079
free until somebody comes walking up and
they're like, who is it? And

774
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:21,800
then they show like a flashback.
Yeah, that's what they done in Fresh

775
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,800
Meat. Yeah, yeah, I
don't mind that. I don't mind that

776
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,079
any fuck off. I don't mind
that either. I know you hate the

777
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,440
flashbacks. Well, fee you got
a thing that you get, yeah,

778
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,159
a thing against flashbacks. It's just
like, if you're gonna tell a story,

779
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:37,519
tell a story, yeah, don't
don't come up with like bomb shell,

780
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,880
here's what actually happened five minutes ago. I wish I don't. I

781
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,239
don't mind it if they show you
the person arriving at the house in the

782
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,800
same episode, but if they do
a cliffhanger and don't show you until the

783
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,599
beginning of the next episode. Oh
something just happened. Yeah, you flashed

784
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:58,159
for a second, but you're back. Yeah, okay, it's all right,

785
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:04,159
patrons. Yeah, I don't mind
if it all happens in the same

786
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:09,000
episode, But if they do that
cliffhanger where you don't find out until the

787
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:15,000
next episode, that's when it annoys
the fuck enemy. Yeah. I just

788
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:21,239
hope at some point it's going to
be the two losers go home, you

789
00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:23,679
know what I mean, only one
winner only one person comes back in Conquest

790
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:28,119
to go think that's going to happen? Do you want that plus a purge?

791
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,880
Yeah? Yeah, we gotta do
it. What I'm doing, Tim

792
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,159
just wants the final, like the
next episode to be Is there thirteen people

793
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:43,639
still in this season thirteen and there's
there's five episodes left, so you figures

794
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:46,159
like six go to the final?
We got seven people to get out in

795
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:51,280
five episodes. I think usually we
have usually we have people in that last

796
00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:57,079
okay, eight people right before the
final, and then they purge to right

797
00:57:57,159 --> 00:58:00,239
at the very like the tail end. Yeah, I'm trying to do some

798
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,119
math, so it seems like two
per episode is probably what we're gonna get.

799
00:58:02,679 --> 00:58:06,440
A purge in the Conquest, Well
said earlier. Yeah, I'm doing

800
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:07,920
some math myself, Carlin. Is
that all right? Exactly? What?

801
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,880
Hey? Can I can? I
just do it myself? Thanks? I

802
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:17,920
guess well. Ultimately the only thing
that the only like real hang up on

803
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,760
this whole thing is Zara. In
one of the obstacles, there's a mud

804
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,840
pit, and Zara makes the mistake
of doing the mud pit before she has

805
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,440
to climb a wooden wall, and
the mud keeps her from being able to

806
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,119
climb the wall in a tinily fashion
and it also happens to be the number

807
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,039
Sidoku puzzle thing, and so she's, like we've already said she was only

808
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:46,199
like maybe halfway through when both of
the guys got to the end. It

809
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:50,440
didn't look close. Yeah, I
mean I think she needed ten minutes,

810
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:53,599
like at least probably the wall didn't
kill it, the mud didn't kill it.

811
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,960
It was you know, it was. She definitely needed more time on

812
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,800
that one. I did appreciate though, like literally the moment that Kylon went

813
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,400
and put his flag in, he
and Horassio immediately went over to start like

814
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:10,960
started walking towards Zara to uh comfort
her for losing. So I appreciated that,

815
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:16,360
Yeah, Joker said, I personally
can't wait to see Jay's reaction to

816
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,480
the fact that his plan to make
Nourice choose didn't go as planned and his

817
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:24,639
plan to eliminate at least one of
the two guys he wanted out failed as

818
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:30,559
well. Yeah, although Jay versus
Hoirasio and Kylon is getting boring, like

819
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:35,960
one of them like somebody's gotta go
one. We need to see some movement

820
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:43,760
in this whatever it is. Yeah, Jane's the guy preferably Yeah, yeah,

821
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,320
t J. Real quick. When
when TJ's saying goodbye, like toelln

822
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,840
Zara, goodbye, it was nice
having you here. Hepsy again. He

823
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,880
does mention that he thinks Kylon and
Horassio were the two best complay competitors in

824
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:00,880
the house right now, which is
pretty high prise. Island's actually done some

825
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:07,000
stuff like Jay's not done anything.
You know, he runs the ship politically,

826
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:10,719
but I'm not impressed, Like I'm
impressed by Ed's performance. Yeah,

827
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:16,079
Emanuel Kyland, I don't know.
Jay's nothing. We should also point out

828
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:22,239
at the beginning of the elimination,
TJ a Zara how she felt. She's

829
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,639
like, I'm never talking to James
again. Even wrote it my journal and

830
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:31,280
TJ's like, in your journal,
it's for real. Then then she says

831
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,000
she unfollowed him on Instagram or something, she's going to follow him on Instagram.

832
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:37,199
I think she was fucking around.
She was having a good time.

833
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,800
I think trying fucking around too,
because I have checked she is still following

834
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,920
him on Instagram. Yeah, she
seemed like she was having made up Since

835
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:52,840
then, I was just more excited
about TJ's reaction about that. I think

836
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,639
he likes Zara. You can always
tell the Challengers he likes I think he

837
01:00:55,679 --> 01:01:00,639
really likes her. Yeah, so
that's the end of the episode. We

838
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:07,760
have two people that been Hama's episode. Wooo good. Yeah, hey,

839
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,199
everybody head over to you Challenge dot
dot com. Joined the Facebook group.

840
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:12,639
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841
01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:14,960
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842
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843
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,280
So thank you to Elena, Alvin, Anna, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy,

844
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:27,320
Emily, Greg, Jamie, Julie. Sorry my computer is scrolling.

845
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,559
Weird Joker, Caitlin, Laura,
Martez, Maverick, Patty, Roldan,

846
01:01:31,679 --> 01:01:38,559
Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Scott
uh Seth second stand. Thank you guys,

847
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:44,440
Thanks everybody. So how fast do
we think the guys can sail of

848
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:52,719
their words? Woo? The guys
can sale of their words next week?

849
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,639
Yeah you too. I finished my
stuff and then both of you just as

850
01:01:55,639 --> 01:02:00,360
fast as you possibly could. Oh
yeah, I've learned too. If I

851
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:06,000
combine those last names of our patriots, still, I keep expecting Shankhar to

852
01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:07,599
be in there, and when you
don't say it, throws me off.

853
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:12,679
Well, it sounds like a country, right, Seth Shakanstan. It's like

854
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:19,719
Kazakhstan. Seth Shakingstan. Between you
three, Between you three, we got

855
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:28,280
a country, all right. Hey, nobody's watching this season. Nobody's listening

856
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,199
to us. But reviews help,
so leave us some please, yeah,

857
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:35,119
leave us some reviews. Five stars. Only you can tell us we're actually

858
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:37,079
awful as long as you give us
five stars and Carlin hasn't got enough shit

859
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:42,519
in the comments. Leave negative ones
about Carlin. I'm I'm waiting for the

860
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,960
day she's got to pay her dues
man dues. I'm riding way too high

861
01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:49,360
right now, so when it actually
comes through, it's just gonna I'm gonna

862
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,599
be on the floor for the next
awful Mary at Home just wait, just

863
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,039
wait, curled up in dead,
not be able to go to work.

864
01:02:57,519 --> 01:03:00,480
Put me in an oppressive episode.
Make Carlin cry. Guys, you know

865
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:06,039
what to do. She's asking for
it. Apple podcasts, horrible reviews,

866
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:10,480
don't make me cry. You can
go over to Spotify and comment on individual

867
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:17,960
episodes, which Simone did for our
last episode. Chimed in and said Emanuel

868
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,880
is not attractive. He looks like
Wallauigi in real life. I think he's

869
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,159
attracted to like, you know,
if that's your type of dude, Like,

870
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:31,199
he's got to be upper echelon,
you know what I mean, if

871
01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:36,679
you like those types of guys,
dirty, tattooed guys. I think he

872
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:44,880
kind of falls into the porn pirate, the Kyle and Kara and tatted and

873
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,599
dark and mysterious. But people are
into that, right, That's the thing.

874
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:52,199
If Carla and Paully ever break up
cars to gain with the Manuel.

875
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,800
Yeah, she seems that they seem
they both seem like they smell bad.

876
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:05,000
You know that hair cors has to
stan you've met her. She does smell

877
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:13,480
nice. Yeah, Yeah, he's
Zach. We have any social media stuff.

878
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:16,400
We have a couple things. Last
week we talked about the new spin

879
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:21,159
off show coming, The Challenge Home
Turf. They have dropped the trailer and

880
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:27,320
then announced the premier date is January
twenty ninth. So are you guys interested

881
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,119
in this? Do you care?
No? Nope? No, I mean

882
01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:32,639
I do. I know you guys
said last week you didn't. I think

883
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:35,760
it looks good. I see a
lot of people commenting on the trailer saying

884
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,159
like I had no interest in the
show until I saw the trailer and now

885
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:43,760
I'm like so excited to watch this. Yeah, but I have a feeling

886
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,519
that it's going to fall into that
category if they show us all the good

887
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:49,519
things on the trailer and then the
show itself is shit because there are plenty

888
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:54,760
of movies that are like that.
Yeah, the biggest shocker. I think

889
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,000
people were surprised to see And maybe
you guys knew this because I think we

890
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:00,760
all know that Amanda is a nurse, but you see the apparently she is

891
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:08,800
a nurse inside of a prison.
She did not used to be a nurse

892
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,320
inside. Yeah, she used to
work at a dispensary. So the prison

893
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,719
is new. So she's making work
man good for her. Wait where is

894
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,840
she living? Right? Is she
still in Colorado? As far as I

895
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:25,840
know what what prison? You'll have
to watch the show. And watching the

896
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:33,440
show, our favorite meatball, Josh
has a new trainer, your your favorite

897
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:41,000
meetball, Well, he is getting
He's been trained for the upcoming season by

898
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:45,400
Jordan himself. Jordan's getting him ready
to compete and win a final. I

899
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,400
did see a video of them working
out together or something. Yeah. Cool,

900
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,519
All I can see all I can
see is the elimination between the two

901
01:05:56,559 --> 01:06:00,199
of them where Jordan just fakes him
out three times in a row to play

902
01:06:00,199 --> 01:06:06,199
tugle war. Jordan has one hand
and still wins a tug of war against

903
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,280
Josh, one of the biggest guys
in the house. You canna say Josh

904
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,119
probably was thirty forty pounds heavier than
him too easily and has like three or

905
01:06:14,119 --> 01:06:17,400
four inches on him. Yep,
and Jordan has and an extra hand.

906
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:24,480
Yeah, Jordan has one hand and
one that do you think Jordan pats him

907
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,719
on top of their head and then
yes, Josh, soon you'll win your

908
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,159
second elimination. No, he's won
two eliminations. They were both. They

909
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:35,960
were back to back. Yeah,
they were back to back only because of

910
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:44,199
the woman that he was paired with. He with Amanda. No, this

911
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,440
a differen season I'm thinking of.
Yeah, the season that he was with

912
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:50,039
a Manda. They didn't do ship. Yeah, he won against who he

913
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:55,320
beat Michi or somebody super shitty like
throwing the balls and something like that.

914
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:02,480
Josh and Peanut, Butter and Nicole
are going at it on Instagram again.

915
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,119
I'm going at it in a good
way or a bad way. In a

916
01:07:06,199 --> 01:07:10,079
bad way, fighting with each other. You said, you said elimination or

917
01:07:10,199 --> 01:07:15,519
challenge, so he said, he
said going out elimination. No, what

918
01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:18,159
did you just sorry? I just
had a for Josh. You said elimination

919
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:23,320
or challenge. Elimination. Okay,
so then you're right, he's only got

920
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,400
one. I was thinking challenge.
He's got two challenges. Sorry, he's

921
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,280
only Yeah, Okay, Yes,
I think we've all heard the rumors that

922
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,719
Nicole cheated on Laurel, but apparently
it's come out that, uh, the

923
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:41,760
person she cheated with was the sister
of Jack's Laurel's partner from last season.

924
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:51,079
Ohio, Yes, what a soap
opera it is. But she and Jack's

925
01:07:51,119 --> 01:08:00,800
have only been friends fairly recently.
So were they friends when this happened or

926
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:06,400
Jack not Jack's. It seems like
they, I mean, they didn't specify,

927
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,360
but seems like they were friends at
the time. It seems like that's

928
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:19,520
how Nicole met Jack's Jack, is
it Jack? Yeah? Okay, I

929
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:24,439
think Nicol and I like Nicole.
I think she's a shitty person though.

930
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:28,239
Yeah, and apparently, you know, we don't really care about Jack's sister

931
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:31,000
because we don't know her. But
apparently the sister was also married at the

932
01:08:31,079 --> 01:08:34,800
time of the affair. Nicole is
this type, right, I mean,

933
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:41,479
this is who Nicole is. Firefighters, She's chaos. She needs she needs

934
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,640
chaos on her own. Yeah,
and she hooks up with the people that

935
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,079
she shouldn't be like. Yeah,
she pursues people that are sort of off

936
01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:54,239
limits. There's a she's a firefighter. There's a stereotype around firefighters. Firefighters

937
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:59,279
and pilots apparently cannot keep it in
their pants. Yeah. For her especially,

938
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:02,479
it seems like she targets chaos,
like she tries to break couples up.

939
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,880
She focuses on people that she shouldn't
be, Like, I think that's

940
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:13,520
who she is. Yeah. And
then this whole season, we've been debating,

941
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,039
you know, how good is aesof
actually playing double agents? A Zara

942
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:20,920
was on the Official Challenge podcast this
past week and according to her that she

943
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:25,479
and no one on her side of
the house had any idea that awes Off

944
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,000
was like playing double agent and reporting
back to Jay. He kept a very

945
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:32,239
secret in the house. Apparently it
wasn't that obvious in the house. He

946
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:39,479
kept a very secret that they were
like even like chummy like that. God,

947
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:44,560
these people almost be blind. They're
not very smart. I mean,

948
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:49,239
we've seen that for thirty nine seasons. Those are all idiots. Yeah,

949
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,399
yeah, you do have to be
missing a few screws to be able to

950
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:58,359
compete on these shows. That's true. And that's pretty much all the social

951
01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:03,720
media news for the week. Yeah, all right, well, thanks everybody.

952
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:10,199
I guess that's it for this week. I wish I had a quote

953
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:15,800
set up, but I don't.
All right, well, for this episode

954
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:21,600
of Challenge that has been Brighten Carl
in San Diego, Zachie Bananas, I'm

955
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:27,720
so using to you not being you
almost forgot me, how rude? Uh

956
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:34,319
and Azaras said, I wrote it
down on my journal Chi
