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Yes, Stephanie is still in New York and she's traveling with LB and
she's doing the press tour. So congratulations to our gal, Stephanie Wilder Tailor.
And if you haven't gotten her book, go downloaded on audible or go
to wherever you find get books. It's called drunkish, And of course I'm
sure everybody knows that. But I got a special guest in studio. He
is my old time old friend, first boyfriend, first love, Michael.
Mike Gee is in the house. Hey Mike, thank you for hanging out
with me today. And we're gonna get into some stories about uh back in
the day, about us. But first let's say hi to our peeps.
This is gonna be fun because I get to read the list this time,
not Stephanie. So let's say hi to share Bear and Dia Hershey, do
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Ferris, Aaron Landish, Nikki call your girl. Leslie is still accosting people
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we love your dancing, and Polly we love your beautiful fluffy pancakes.
And Valerie Bubba Fenwick hits it out of the park every time. Katrina check
that Moeller Uh, Gabby and Missy they were at the Critics Choice Awards.
Oh yeah, yes, seat fillers yep, yep uh. Let's see is
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cute. Kelly Brant is still your aunt, Alicia Escalante, Leslie's up with
the coughing, Take a cough drop, Sarah Stefano, Aaron Dirty Sanchez,
Jennifer get up, Sandra, It's not easy being green. Christy you make
me want a stroop. And Stephanie is a stinker rinker all right. So,
Mike Michael, thank you for thanks for sitting in with me today.
I know you're welcome. You've been wanting to be on my podcast. For
a long time. Mike and I are really close. We're good friends.
We've been friends for how long each other? And uh forty years now,
Yep, that sounds about right. For forty years. Yeah. I met
Mike when I was I think fifteen years old and sixteen. Yeah, and
you and our friends Glenn who I've talked about before, Don and all our
old school high school friends. We didn't go to high school, so Mike
and I didn't go to high school together, but we were in the same
neighborhood. Our high schools were next kind of close by each other. Yeah,
and Mike's a couple of years older than me, not much three years
older, no, two? Okay, how old are you? Okay,
I think it's more like three, but okay, I know who's counting whatever.
But so we Yeah, we would hang out, you know, my
group of girlfriends and his group of guy friends would get together and we'd after
school, we would hang out at Pam's house every day. We'd watch Weird
Science the movie every day. Do you remember that. I remember it like
it was yesterday. Really, Yeah. And uh so then Mike and I
and we'll we'll do a little Patreon and uh for this week, but you
go, you'll listen to it. But Mike and I we were you were
my first boyfriend, yeah, and you like, but we didn't become boyfriend
and girlfriend right away, right, we were like, hey, we were
friends first, and then we became boyfriend and girlfriend and it was mostly like
I remember, it was like towards my senior year of high school and a
couple of years after you were we were a boyfriend and girlfriend. Yes,
yeah, think were like four years, right for four years? And then
you broke up with me in your El Camino behind the Marie Calendars in Kenoga
Park parking lot. You uh took me for lunch and then you said,
I have to we have to break up because you know, well because I
wasn't twenty one yet, so I couldn't get into bars. You did.
You were twenty one, you even though I had a fake ID, and
you wanted to, of course, you know, go off and be single.
And I was heartbroken. I that was that was an excruciating experience.
I felt really bad. You remember that, I got I remember it totally.
Yeah, I remember. And then you told you you sent me a
song, remember, No, you told me to listen to patients from Guns
and Rotaries. Oh yeah. And and the funny thing is that the lyrics
MAT's exactly what was going on. Yeah, that's true. And that made
me seriously, you know that that seeing you and being so heartbroken and then
listening to that song. I think, I think I broke down to I
know, I remember you were you were sad, but I had understood,
of course, you know, you wanted to go off and be single and
do your thing, which you know. But uh and and so Mike and
I we have so many memories. I just there's I remember the first time
I heard nw A was when you were driving those cars and you found the
tape in a in a rental car or something and you played it. That
was the funny. When I heard that music for the first time, I
was like, oh my god, I was laughing so hard. I remember
that. I remember then We're like, okay, bring it over to the
house. Everybody can hear it. And it was just the funniest thing.
I couldn't believe the lyrics. I know, the right, left, right,
you know, toothless and then they said god, damn you, God
damn you ruthless. We go they say, d damn n W a fucking
up the program that wreck. That song affected me a lot, or those
that music affected me a lot, you know, like call girls and women
bitches and they're they're saying all these other things that because we listened to it
so long, I started talking like that, Yeah, right, but I
know it was a different time. It was crazy. And I remember you
also discovered Guns N' Roses the first album, and you played it and you're
like, I listened to this album. I mean so many bands, the
Cult. Uh remember the Living Collar. Uh yeah, that was that was
like that. They were great Bullet Boys, the Bullet Boys. Yeah yeah,
so okay, so so so we had a lot of music we used
to listen to. So, Mike, I was also close with your family,
close with your mom, your brother, and and you're you know,
not really your dad. Your dad passed away at a certain point when we
were kids. And then yeah, and then you were the one that my
mom said was going to be a brick layer someday. Do you remember when
she Mike would come over and like, you know, like Jerry rigg the
cable so that we could have free cable. It's not called Jerry rigging.
It's called illegally hooking up your movie right. Yes, Back then everybody had
cable except for my cheap parents, so we didn't have cable, so you
had to come over and do the cable. But we were boyfriend and girlfriend
and at one time we were You were in my room at my house I
grew up in and my mom walked in. Do you remember that. We
were like, you know, on my bed, and she knew we were
like kind of fooling around, and she was like, Lynette, into the
end, He's going to win and you were gonna lose, and he's just
gonna be a brick layer. This is a cable guy's gonna be a brig
Yeah. So that's uh. Helen Paradise wasn't a fan, but my dad
was a big fan. My dad loved Michael. Uh thought yeah, I
thought he thought you looked like a young Victor mature. We look him up
and we look at each other were like, what the hell is the Victor
mature? I know, I know, And there was no phone so we
couldn't look it up. It couldn't google it right right, Like, who
the hell is that? Yeah? So so then, so we were a
boyfriend and girlfriend for four years. And then then we broke you know,
then you broke up, but then you met your ex now's your ex wife,
and then we I was in your wedding, do you remember that.
Yeah, you were in the wedding. In the wedding, I was a
bridesmaid. Yeah, and which Yeah, it was a beautiful wedding. Had
a great time. That was the best wedding I've ever been to. It
was my own. It was I mean, the orders were insane, Yeah,
it was. It was fun. It was in Sun Valley, Idaho.
Yes, yes, right next to Bruce and Demi. Oh really,
I didn't know that they lived next door. Wow, at your in laws
place. Yeah, that was so. Then and then we kind of lost
touch. You got married, you were you know, living your life,
and then and then we've gotten like, you know, I think we've gotten
I mean we've always stayed in touch, but kind of gotten like back into
each other's lives recently, like in the last couple of years, wouldn't you
say for sure? Yeah? So, Mike, what do you do for
a living? Should we talk about a little bit about you? Like,
well, let's talk let me, let me, let's talk about you know,
your your journey you're clean and sober? Now? How many How long
I got clean and sober on June fourth, twenty sixteen. Wow, what
I'm seven and a half years clean and sober. Nice, very nice.
And you're going you talk to kids now, you go and talk by the
places I go to rehabs and do H and I, which is hospitals and
institutions for an A and for AA. And I throw my little spin to
it, you know, because you know drug addiction and alcoholism, especially now
you know it's a it's a mental thing, completely mental. So I try
and you know, talk to them in a way that they understand, you
know, nineteen twenty one years old, right, and they need a firm
hand, you know what I mean. Yes, I know, I know,
Yeah you can. Mike is a It could be gruff and rough around
the edges it some sometimes well I won't say sometimes, I'd say all the
time. You you do scream at me a lot about things, Yes I
do. Yes, you're very tough on me. But yes I can take
it because I know it's coming from a good place. A love. But
yes you are. You can be gruff and blunt and to the point,
but that's what we love. About you. We used to call you lou
Bundy was your alternate name, because well we would, you know, I
mean, we grew up doing a lot of drinking when we were growing up,
a lot a lot all of our friends at a young age. Parents
weren't really around. We were just hanging out in a school parking lot.
Just I was going to say that drinking McCarty one fifty one in the seven
to eleven big gold Cup and you have to drink it fast because the wax
is eaten away by the one fifty one. Oh god. We would be
in basically a parking lot and there'd be what I'm like eight or ten of
us, and that was like heaven for us. And then then my parents
used to go camping a lot. Oh yeah, Yeah, were these hallacious
parties at my parents' house. You know, It's just that was something out
of weird science too, you know, right, and Sunday morning we get
up and you're bottles, cigarette butts, everything, and we they're gonna be
here in two hours. Yes, yes, run around like like everybody would
run around clean. Oh, it was great. Every like anytime we heard
and your parents did go out of town a lot to go out, Yes,
And it was like Michael's parents are out of town party, Like we
were looking forward to it. Everybody would just be hanging out, you know,
listening to music, drinking, which a lot of teenagers do these days.
But I think we did it a little to an excess, Like I
think had we had camera phones, we would be as famous as Jackass.
I think because we did some crazy stuff. Yeah, we did. And
I don't know, like four or five years after that, we we got
that house. Remember that. We called it the buck Pad. Yeah,
and there was the only reason we got this house was to throw monthly parties
and it got crazy out of control, right. So it was Mike and
three other guys, so it was the four of you and we were boyfriend
and girlfriend at this time. And because yes, and I remember, because
a lot of chicks would come to the party and like yeah, and I'd
be in tears by the end of the night, like where's Mike. He
left with some chick, Like what the fuck? But it was this house
in Knoga Park, and it was four bedrooms with a pool, just a
party house, and it was you guys named it the buck Pad, and
you guys had flyers that went around the valley like you're having a pipe.
We gave out flyers, and then we also made these laminated passes, you
remember, Yes, so we would say, you know, VIP access and
you can get into the master bedroom where you know, all the party of
wolves are at. And so we would go to Jeremiah's, remember, to
the Red Onion on Tuesday night, even to the night, Yes, and
we pass up the flyers, and if you see an attractive girl, we'd
give them a backstage pass or a VIP pass whatever it was, right,
And they that was so that they could go to the bathroom in private and
like the girls at least if you get back there in the back of the
house, Yes, to go to the bout instead of wait in line for
the main bathroom that everybody had. That's right, that's right. I forgot
about that. Yeah, you're right, yes, because the guys just went
and pissed outside. It was really just chicks in line for the bathroom and
these parties climbing over the wall to get in, remember, yes, And
and these parties would happen like once a month, and you guys were became
like legends in the valley. People knew who the Buck what the buck pad
was. And uh, I just remember it would just be a mess every
Saturday or Friday Sunday morning and we would spend the day cleaning. And I
remember every night we'd watch Sunday Foot and then we'd watch the Simpsons. You
remember, like the Simpsons was a big deal on Sunday night. Yeah,
would we'd watch football and then the Simpsons. But what happened when you guys
went to court, because eventually the neighbors came a calling and got pissed.
And this house was on a cul de sac too, right, it was
you know it was it was they would in there fill the whole cold effect
up and we couldn't get out of that cold detack, right, And you
would leave that, we'd go to breakfast the next morning, go down the
street and there's just red solo cups just lining the whole like neighborhood, I
mean everywhere. We would have to. I remember Don and I getting a
trash bag and just driving around the neighborhood, like around the block two blocks
away more red solo cups like it just never it was a sea of red
solo cups. And that was like our our Sunday morning as well, but
what happened when you guys, when the neighbors finally decided. I don't know
if I went, because I don't I don't remember. I don't remember the
court thing, but I know that we just got disturbing the piece or Ryan,
Ryan and Kelly were named on that one. So I don't I don't,
I don't, right, Kelly, the two other guys, the two
others, I don't remember, but I do remember that Ryan. They so
they had to go to court at some point, and Ryan stood up and
said, uh uh, the shooting was not our fault. Yeah, that's
right. What was I mean, wasn't there there was some somebody fired a
gun or something after one of the parties. Yeah, down the street.
Yeah, somebody fired a gun something like that. Yeah. And then another
neighbor was pissed because there was mailboxes missing along the street. People took mailboxes,
Yes, they snatched mailboxes or ran over with their cars. And I
mean, we're not proud of this stuff. That wasn't good. That wasn't
good at all. No, but you know, it was fun. And
I remember when we were leaving, we were looking through the house and the
carpet, remember the carpet would crunch because there was so much beer or alcohol
dropped on it. And then if you walk in the kitchen with like thongs,
your your thong will stick to the floor. You couldn't walk on the
floor, right, I remember. And there would be like we'd be sitting
in the TV room and be like, what is that smell? What does
that smell? Yeah, and it's like somebody puked like under behind the couch
and nobody knew about it and they just sat there for I mean, yeah,
it was debauchery. Yeah, I I remember, you know, riding
bikes off the roof into the pool, riding skateboards off the roof into the
pool and just doing it was crazy. I mean, we're so lucky,
Mike that nobody got serious injured or killed, I know, and that we
never hurt anybody. I mean, you know, like imagine if somebody hurt
themselves at that house, Like, did we anybody ever think about that?
No, not even once, not a second thought, even when we were
handcuffed and people were standing at the doorway and were handcuffed and we're doing,
Hey, have a good day, drive safely, come back see you next
time. Don't worry about this, we'll be okay. We're in the handcuffs,
no shirt, swimming shorts. Why did you guys? I don't remember.
I don't remember when what happened. We got they arrested me and Kelly,
I think, and for whatever, I don't remember what the reason.
So they cuffed us and then they made us stand at the porch front door.
While they're kicking people out of my house. Kelly is like, goodbye,
hope you had a good time. He's got his hands behind his back,
you know, like it doesn't need to drive our thank you for coming.
And then the house was empty. And then I think they just wrote
us a ticket and let us go, but we were definitely handcuffed on the
porch. Thank god, Oh my god. Wow Wow. All right,
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We're back. So, Mike, uh okay, do you have any
stories that you can remember that you wanted to talk about or anything that comes
to mind, Like during that war? Well, I remember that I moved
out of my parents' house and I rented a room on De Soto. Yeah,
and then you got a job at a preschool daycare called Little or something
like that. You remember a Little graduates pre school. Yes, yes,
And I was working at that company, driving cars back and forth from Lax
and then you would I get home and then you get off at like six,
and you would walk. Yes, you would walk. I don't know,
because I didn't have a car, And and then you just come in
and we'd see each other and it's like, so it's like we were so
excited, puppy love, yes, love, Yes, Oh my god,
you're here. I know. We were so excited. And so you had
this room for rent, and we would just hang out in your room and
watch TV. What did we watch I don't remember, but I think the
three channels, I know. And then we would order from Uncle Ernie's.
Uncle Ernie sucks, remember that. Yes, So I remember my parents were
still like living in the house, and my mom, you know, she
didn't want me to have a boyfriend and blah blah blah. But my dad
knew. My dad knew I was on the pill. I mean, I
was still pretty young. This was right out of high school. I was.
We were doing this when I was with you all the time. I
mean, so I would spend the night, like every night at in that
room in Kunhoga Park, and so my dad knew where I was. My
mom thought I was at Pam's house, but my dad knew, like,
you know, where I was. And I remember him getting me on the
pill, telling me I should get on the pill, which yes, yes,
and he was totally fine with it and was supportive and okay, you
know. And and then that's during the time where I think that I was
getting my real estate license. Remember when I sold. Do you remember when
I got my real estate license? Maybe that was a few years after after
we broke up, but yeah, so we would. Yeah, that's what
we were. Yeah, young puppies in love. And I guess, you
know, it's it's it's interesting that we're still like but now we're like brother
and sister. Like Michael Gough like, I'm only yelling at you because I
love you, and I'm just you know, I'm only looking out for you,
you know, and not in a weird way either when and I'm like,
I know, I want to make that perfectly clear. I know about
certain things you need little guidance, so I may be a little too in
your face. And you know, I don't mean to yell at you.
I just kind of just it's frustrating social I know, I know, I
know, but you do give me good advice. Yeah, and in the
end you take everything. You listen to everything I say, and you listen
to a bunch of other people as well, so you make the right decisions.
That tuls me. What as long as you're making the right decisions,
and uh, you're happy, that's all I care about. Thank you,
thank you. Yes, Oh you've come a long way, because like,
okay, so we you know you like we said we were that was our
youth of a lot of drinking and partying. But now what tell us?
Like how can you tell me? Like how you got sober? And what
were you doing at the time, Like I don't think we have enough time
for that. How have you are? But we always drink right right,
always drink after or not get up in the morning and take off a drink
and go to work drunk. It was more like, you know, a
recreational partying, but at a professional level, you know, it was every
night drink, drink, drink, ding, drink. And then I got
surgery. I think I was thirty three or something like that. I had
surgery and I got oxy cotton and at the time I was or vicing in
I'm sorry norco At the time I cut the umbilical cord from my corporate job
and started my own business. And it was really, really stressful. I
had a lot of anxiety and a lot of fear, you know, cutting
that cord. Recently married, wife is pregnant, right, right, So
I took the viking in. I'm like, hmm, wow, this is
good. I could conquer the world. And that's how it started. So
in the beginning, the drugs were the answer, and in the end,
you know, the drugs were the problem. But there's this I thought viking
In oxycoton would help me, you know, calm my anxiety down. And
you know, I was like, wow, this is really cool. But
then you can't you know, you're taking in your tolerance. As your tolerance
goes up, you can't take. You have to find the pills you need
to take twenty in the morning or twenty five. Where do you get them?
Start buying them off the street? You know it just right? Yeah,
I'm the only person you know that had basically had such successful businesses and
drove them spectacularly into the ground, right because of wife, because of the
addiction, Because of the addiction and my selfish behavior and my uh oh,
it was terrible. I was a terrible person. Right, well, I'm
still making amends and it's seven years. Well you're I'm very proudy, you're
doing great. But so you you were married and had a child at the
time when you started doing this deeper and deeper? Do you now you're not
married? You guys got divorced. Correct. Do you think that the addiction
had played a big part in the divorce. It's twelve. I don't know
a little bit, but you know it's complicated, you know, with our
son who was autistic. So when you have a parent that is in denial
and a parent that wants to help the child, you clash, right,
And you know, he was uh, you know, they were he was
two years old and they'd say, you know, hey, there's something wrong
with your son. You need to you know, we need to take him
out to a doctor to be evaluated. And we would both say, well,
he's only two. How can you say that. The next year,
well it's only three. How can you say that? Now my radar is
up and me being a you know, being being working with people in their
houses, I'm watching the kids and all that. And when he turned four,
I'm like, hey, we need to get him looked at it,
I think, you know, and that was the end of my marriage,
that conversation, right, because she was in denial. Yeah, And and
the more I tried more pushback I got so yeah. And I'm not going
to say the drugs weren't probably you know, they definitely made me. You
know, my body is there, my brain is somewhere else right right right?
Wow, I was I want to Yeah, yeah they did. Yeah,
yeah, But I mean, of course, like there's all kinds of
different factors, you know. I mean, it's not just one thing for
a divorce to happen. But oh yeah, sure, So then we roommates
for the roommates, right right, So then you you get divorced, you
move out, and then you get deeper into addiction. Is that what happened?
Because this is where we lost you and I lost touch around these years,
I think, yeah, well I wanted to go. My ex wife
took my son to Idaho, so I moved to Idaho to be near my
son. So I actually had that cold Turkey the if I get an addiction.
So I was pretty mellow out there about two years I was out there,
I think, so I didn't really have any drugs, drinking friends,
anything like that. Then moved started, you know, playing business with my
cousin, and that started the whole thing back up again, the addiction.
Oh he's terrible because then you know, we started this business and it started
flourishing, and you know it'spending every penny on that on drugs, right,
So to make myself thought, I thought I was a fully functioning addict,
you know, as I need these drugs so I can keep this business going,
and we're kicking ass, so I can't slow down now I need him,
even though I tried to stop multiple times. So deep down you knew
you had a problem. You wanted to stop, but you you didn't want
to slow down because you were, you know, kicking ask exactly. And
that's the other thing about addiction is like I am a good person. I'm
not a bad person. I'm like if people pleaser, right, And so
when you're in the throes of addiction, you do bad things like lie,
steal, you know, things you would not normally do, right, and
then you so you have the shame and remorse for the stuff that you did,
the shame and remorse for the the you know you're hiding so many stuff
from people, right, and it was soverwhelming. Right, and I feel
like you were by yourself, like you didn't have a support system. No,
nobody knew about it, nobody knew your family nobody and not friends.
Right, and you moved away like you didn't have a lot of for just
people you worked with. Right, No, that's complication. So I when
I moved moved out to Central California, that's when you know it was flourishing
out there, no problem to get right, right, get more and more
and more my tolerance more and more and more, you know. So then
I someone told me to get on methadone. I don't know if you remember
that. So No, I got a methadone and I'm like, oh,
this is cool, and methodone saved my life. It was really cool because
I don't have to look for pills anymore. It doesn't affect me as far
as I'm concerned. It was really cool. I loved it. And then,
oddly enough, my business partner got me into cocaine at forty four years
old, and then downhill from there. Oh my god, we don't want
to talk about that. Oh my god. Well, so what when you
decided to get sober? Like what where? What happened? Like what made
my partner just had enough? I mean I was trying to get hell,
but too afraid to ask. So I would leave little clues that you know,
I leave it, you know, leave a world up dollar here,
or leave the fold there, hoping he would, hey, what's going on
here? And nothing? Nothing? What happened? And then my attitude and
behavior towards him was really I was resentful, I was mean and whatever,
and that was it. He just said, you're out of here, You're
done, And believe it or not, I got on a plane with a
work, you know, and I didn't have no idea where I was going,
and I landed out, you know, in Arizona, and the rest
is history. Now you're in Arizona and you got so well, you know,
let's let's take a let's take a quick break, and then I want
to talk a little bit about some funny stories with your job. Can we
talk about that? Okay, plumbing job. Yeah's take a quick break,
so Mike, m yes, sorry, So you're you're now in Arizona,
which I talked about you recently because I went to see colleges in Arizona with
Natalia and you picked us up from the airport, and Natalia thought you were
really funny. You were blasting music in the car on Sunday morning driving us
to the airport. Yeah, we're Travis Scott right, yes, which Natalia
loved. Yes, yes, yeah, so she thought you were really cool.
So so now you're in Arizona and when we talk, you tell me
these stories about some of these clients that you have in your plumbing business.
Yeah, And I don't know if you want to, if you want to
talk a little bit about that, like some of these stories about you know,
one of the things that I wanted to tell people is you do this
thing. You do a good deed once a day. Yes, is it
once a day or once a No, it's once a day. You do
a good deed, like, yes, a good deed. So like it
would be it would be anything from you know, some customers don't have enough
money, and so I would do certain you know, help them out or
another you know, if they need something fixed on there, if it's simple,
right, I'll just walk up and I'll fix it, or you know
they have all their Amazon packages, I'll bring it over to them. But
or anything or say anything in that that's not why I'm there. And they,
you know, people, you know, I can't explain it. People
trust me, so I talk to them in a way that they tell me.
Uh, you know, man, I've been dealing with this. I've
been dealing with that, and so I help them right, at least one
today, sometimes more right. And where are you? Where's your How come?
I never have your kind of people come to my house. Every time
something breaks that needs to be fixed, it's like I got to order apart.
It's going to be back in another week. It's going to cost eat
under bucks. Bah blah blah blah blah. It's like never anybody gets any
breaks from people like you. And it's nice to hear that you do that.
Yeah, I don't play that game. You know. I could easily
do that, you know, but I don't, you know, And if
there is a situation that I can't fix, which is extremely rare, I
will point them in the right direction. So you know what this is where
you go, here's what you call. And I even say things like,
okay, so if you do that, make sure you call me. I
want to know how much they bid you so they're not ripping you off.
And yeah, and I'm I'm kind to people because people want to be treated
kindly, you know, yes, you know if you just walk in there
with your pants hanging down, your butt crack showing Andre Bob, you know
what, how are they How are you going to help somebody? You're you're
in people's house. That's a sacred, sacred place to be in, so
you need to treat that with respect as well as the owner. Mike you
Yes, I'm very proud of you. Come a long way. Well,
you've always been a sweetheart at at Yes, you've always been a sweet guy.
But now like seeing you as an adult and is it weird going into
people's houses and like, you know, having to deal with now you're used
to it. Well, yeah, I mean it's you know, some are
dirty somewhere between some are healthy, cat piss. I'm going to a couple
of a couple of hoarders. You know, we go into those houses and
woo, that's that's an experience. Yeah, hoarders people. Yeah, it's
insane. But you act like nothing's nothing's going on, nothing's wrong, Like
it's no what do you got going on? Yeah? That Hey, by
the way, your magazine's up to your ceiling. Oh I know, I
mean. And what's funny thing is that with hoarders across the board, they
start pulling things out of the house as if they're cleaning. So while I'm
there, they're pulling stuff out. This happened like three times. Really,
yeah, And then I'm like, I guess they're cleaning. I don't know.
And so the last one when I went there, I was in the
van doing paperwork, and then I saw her putting it all back into the
house. Interesting, So you think they're doing it to make it to show
maybe? Yeah, so they're not so embarrassed me. Look I'm cleaning now
look at this right. Oh that's interesting. Wow. Yeah, I know.
And I called nine one one for the elderly for I don't know,
plus six times times? Really, what do you mean? Why? Like
what happened? So you know the guys that's the woman's one time. The
woman's son lives out of town and and he said, hey, something's going
on. I talked him over the phone. I said, yeah, I'll
go over there, and do you want me to describe what I saw?
Yeah, go ahead, Okay, So the house was a total disaster,
something as something out of a movie. The smell was unbelievable. And then
the toilet had been broken. Now imagine I broke toilet and then you just
crap on top of crap on top of the crap. But now there's a
pyramid above the rim of the toilet. Okay, And she's something's wrong with
her. She's she's not there, you know. And I told the son,
what's going on. It's filthy conditions. And I don't think she bathes.
She's an elderly woman. Yeah, don't do woman. And I said,
you, dude, you got to come down here and see get your
mom into some home or something. I've been meaning to do that. I'm
like meaning to do that. You need to get here now, bro.
So I don't know. I called. I called an ambulance and they picked
her up and they said she was like severely dehydrated and she hadn't had food
for like a week. God. They actually called me and said because of
that, I saved the Really. Wow, that's gonna be that's going to
be heartbreaking. Yeah, especially with the elderly that get left alone, you
know. Yea. And when you're dealing with older people, it's difficult,
you know, because to walk on next shelves. You don't get to rip
people off, and you don't want to give the impression that you do rip
people off, right right? No, I mean do you do you see
by I know, do you see it a lot like where people are like
living on their you know, like there's no loved ones around and they're elderly
and they're just kind of you know, like just alone. Like that's so
sad. Yeah, and hey, you know they got major problems and it's
a major bill. So we get a call from the from the from the
daughter, you know, the daughter or or the son immediately thereafter. Why
do you charge so much? Right right, That's what I'm saying. We
have to treat that with kid gloves. Yeah, give the impression that I'm
here to screw people over, you know. Yeah, Well that's awesome.
I'm happy for you. And what's your dating life like, Mike, Uh,
there is, there's no dating life, Lynnette. Why you need a
nice woman? Any nice ladies in the Arizona area? Yeah, that wouldn't
be awesome. Definitely contact the show, Yes, dm uh, I told
you about the bougie Jim I joined. Yes, that's cool. What have
you been doing? I went in the cold Plunge last night. That was
insane. Did you know thedorphins? Like they say? It was weird?
It was. I've never done it before, so it was cool. But
there's no dating life, Lynette. I just work. You need a nice
you need a nice gal your age to settle down my age. And so
you're dating though right here and there? Okay? And yeah, huh here
and there, here and there, and you haven't met anybody yet. No,
No, it's difficult to beat someone that doesn't smoke pot or because it's
legal out here now, or or that doesn't drink to a point where you're
like carrying them into the car. Right, what's happened to me a few
times? Right? Okay, But it's hard to find cool sober people.
Yeah, well I think you could. Do you mind do you want a
sober person to date? Or do you mind if they have like a drink
here and there? Yeah, I don't care if they actually don't even care
if they drink, oh you know what I mean, or smoke pot,
but in moderation, girl, please exactly. Yeah, a lot of stoners
out there, I'm telling you. Yeah, back when when I was back
in La, there were they had to pour them out of the car.
You know, right right when I was the first Uh so sober dating if
you will, right, Well, you just went, didn't you go to
some sober single event? Is that you? Who did I talk to?
No? I think I went. I went to a speed dating thing?
Speed dating? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, how was that that was?
I thought it was okay. I thought a couple of them we connected,
but I guess not. Wow, another one. No, I didn't go
to another one. But yeah, no, there's no no dating. And
Netflix is my new drug of choice. So I just need to get my
ass to the gym, get on the dirt bike more. Stop working,
Yes, I love. That's my passion is writing. Yeah, and uh
and going to the gym and taking care of yourself like working on that.
Yeah. Working yeah, well, I mean you know you do work a
lot, so it is I think hard. But but you know, get
out there, Mike, You got to get out there. I need to
get out there. Yes, you know, I love to isolate. That's
the issue I'm dealing with because you know, you have this vision in your
head of you know, work basically is I don't think I don't see work
as work. It's not a job. To me, it's more of a
I can't explain. It doesn't feel like a job to me. Every day
is different and you're running around your head cut off, and no day is
the same. So it's kind of cool. I kind of like it.
I really like it. Yeah, after now you've just done twelve hours of
complete chaos. Now what do you do? So taking a shower, climb
into my bench and just put what watch TV to shut my brain off.
Of course, it's what I'm doing for years, And thank you COVID nineteen.
That's what got it started. I know, I know, but you
know, everybody says like, don't isolate, don't isolate, don't isolate.
You know, I get the same thing. But like, as you get
older, what the fuck does everybody want you to do? Go to a
disco every other night? Like what the fuck? Like there's not like people
like you know what this is not. We're not living you know, Beverly
Hills Housewives, where there's like a dinner party to go to every Like that's
not real life. So you're isolating. It's like, yes, you work
all day, you're tired, you're with the kids, you're doing shit all
day. Then the only thing you want to do is just relax and watch
TV and shut your brain off. So if that's isolating, then so be
it. Bring it on. I like that, that's the way. Like
it's enough already. Like people, I don't know. I know you get
it and I get it, and we argue with each other, like you
gotta stop isolating. No, you gotta stop isolating. It's like, like,
what else is there to fucking do? Yeah, what's the spot of
taking a hot shower, you know, crawling into your bed with your soft
comforterb comforter, pumforter and ordering a nice door dash meal. That's enticing to
me? Of course? I agree. Going to the gym at seven?
No, fuck that, that's too late? Yeah? Or are you want
to come go over to your house? Who's going to be there, Jim
John? Well, everyone's gonna be here. And I'm like, no,
right, because I just don't want to talk to you or your friends,
right right, I've been talking to people all day. I want to shut
up. Yes, you know that there's a Squid Games by the way in
our city of Los Angeles at CBS Studios. Did you know this? Kaylin?
No, you can buy tickets and you can play squid games. Yes,
and I got invited Friday night to go play squid games. It sounds
like fun, which sounds like so much fun. So on Thursday when I
heard about it, I was like, I'm all in, how do I
do? They sent me the link to buy the ticket. It's only a
limited engagement. You can go with your friends play squid games. And then
that was on Thursday. Then Friday came and I was like fuck that.
Fuck the fuck was I thinking? I ain't going to play fucking squid games
on a Friday night at seven. I'm gonna sit there lick a cookie and
shit, fuck that. Anybody will watch squid games and it'll probably be a
cattle call with like thousands of people around you. Yes, they were a
line or talked me out of it. Actually on Friday you're like, yeah,
no, I talk you out of it. I gave you the reality
of the situation. Yes, you know, being who you are, do
you have poll get in the line? And I don't think so, okay,
great, you're gonna wait in a line up a thousand people who think
they're gonna become famous by eating a cookie. What'd you say? Licking a
cookie, licking a cookie that sounds like fun playing marbles, Like I know,
I was like, what am I thinking? I ain't playing, I'm
giving a fucking So I stayed home and I watched uh oh, I watched
Fool Me once on Netflix's that the louder Milk is the best? You like
louder Milk. Louder Milk is the best. Yeah, he his the way
that he talks to his attitude and the way that he racks to people and
talks shit on everybody. That was me, Like he was me when I
first got cleaned. Yeah, so totally relate. And it's about sobriety and
stuff like that. So yeah, there's another show that's like it that Stephanie
and I would talk about with the guy from SmartLess. Uh no, yeah
names, yes, yes, well it's it's he's SmartLess. It's not the
it's not Bateman, and it's not uh the other guy from Will and Grace.
It's the other guy. But anyway, he did a show. I'll
send it to you. It was on Netflix. It's a couple of seasons.
It's like louder Milk. I thought he did a great Yeah, he
did a good job. But all right, well this, Mike, this
has been a lot of fun. It's been a pleasure. You guys can
check out for me as well. Yes, and uh, do you want
to promote anything, Mike? No, but if there's some if there's people
out there who are and I'm being totally serious, if there's people out there
that want to get clean or want to get sober, you can reach me
through the show. Right, yeah, why don't you just you'll be happy
to talk to anybody who wants to get out of that roller coaster ride that
you're on and I'm here to help. Just reminder, our email is f
col Podcast at gmail dot com. So yeah, you can write or what
about aren't you on Instagram? People can DM you on Instagram? No,
now, no, I don't know what it is. Well then, or
you can email us at our email or you can DM me on Instagram and
I'll pass along your info to Mike. Yes, and I'll be happy to
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thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. Oh my god.
Uh and I love you and you can scream at me later tonight. So
all right, so thanks everybody. Thanks Kaylin, and you're a parent now,
so it's letting go