1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:10,160 Made a decision. Oh pay Sonny sumone on, I had vision. Nice 2 00:00:10,839 --> 00:00:22,160 night Tooch plus app. Everybody, welcome to a very special episode for crying 3 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:26,760 out loud. Oh I gotta fix my mic. Sorry about that. Uh. 4 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:31,920 Yes, Stephanie is still in New York and she's traveling with LB and 5 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,679 she's doing the press tour. So congratulations to our gal, Stephanie Wilder Tailor. 6 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:39,880 And if you haven't gotten her book, go downloaded on audible or go 7 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,640 to wherever you find get books. It's called drunkish, And of course I'm 8 00:00:44,679 --> 00:00:48,119 sure everybody knows that. But I got a special guest in studio. He 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:56,039 is my old time old friend, first boyfriend, first love, Michael. 10 00:00:56,359 --> 00:01:00,119 Mike Gee is in the house. Hey Mike, thank you for hanging out 11 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:04,560 with me today. And we're gonna get into some stories about uh back in 12 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:07,760 the day, about us. But first let's say hi to our peeps. 13 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,799 This is gonna be fun because I get to read the list this time, 14 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:18,359 not Stephanie. So let's say hi to share Bear and Dia Hershey, do 15 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,359 you want a Hershey? Bar? And Kelly ou La da out Ladida Amy 16 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:29,879 is a nice person and her last name is Hunt Katie Murphy, Anna Nottt 17 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:36,439 Ferris, Aaron Landish, Nikki call your girl. Leslie is still accosting people 18 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,439 all left and right, and Jacob is very growley, and Rita racks that 19 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:47,359 bas Sinette Bassiette and Elizabeth Williamson. We love all your kids, and Athena, 20 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,920 we love your dancing, and Polly we love your beautiful fluffy pancakes. 21 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,959 And Valerie Bubba Fenwick hits it out of the park every time. Katrina check 22 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:04,200 that Moeller Uh, Gabby and Missy they were at the Critics Choice Awards. 23 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:07,920 Oh yeah, yes, seat fillers yep, yep uh. Let's see is 24 00:02:07,039 --> 00:02:12,560 shon Vasbank m hm talk about a seat filler? But they little been so 25 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:16,680 cute. Kelly Brant is still your aunt, Alicia Escalante, Leslie's up with 26 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,919 the coughing, Take a cough drop, Sarah Stefano, Aaron Dirty Sanchez, 27 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:28,560 Jennifer get up, Sandra, It's not easy being green. Christy you make 28 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:32,919 me want a stroop. And Stephanie is a stinker rinker all right. So, 29 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,879 Mike Michael, thank you for thanks for sitting in with me today. 30 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,120 I know you're welcome. You've been wanting to be on my podcast. For 31 00:02:43,159 --> 00:02:46,080 a long time. Mike and I are really close. We're good friends. 32 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:53,120 We've been friends for how long each other? And uh forty years now, 33 00:02:53,479 --> 00:03:00,000 Yep, that sounds about right. For forty years. Yeah. I met 34 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:07,599 Mike when I was I think fifteen years old and sixteen. Yeah, and 35 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,759 you and our friends Glenn who I've talked about before, Don and all our 36 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:14,879 old school high school friends. We didn't go to high school, so Mike 37 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,919 and I didn't go to high school together, but we were in the same 38 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,680 neighborhood. Our high schools were next kind of close by each other. Yeah, 39 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,159 and Mike's a couple of years older than me, not much three years 40 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:36,000 older, no, two? Okay, how old are you? Okay, 41 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,479 I think it's more like three, but okay, I know who's counting whatever. 42 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:45,759 But so we Yeah, we would hang out, you know, my 43 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:49,800 group of girlfriends and his group of guy friends would get together and we'd after 44 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,639 school, we would hang out at Pam's house every day. We'd watch Weird 45 00:03:53,759 --> 00:04:00,599 Science the movie every day. Do you remember that. I remember it like 46 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:05,560 it was yesterday. Really, Yeah. And uh so then Mike and I 47 00:04:05,919 --> 00:04:11,439 and we'll we'll do a little Patreon and uh for this week, but you 48 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,919 go, you'll listen to it. But Mike and I we were you were 49 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,279 my first boyfriend, yeah, and you like, but we didn't become boyfriend 50 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:23,920 and girlfriend right away, right, we were like, hey, we were 51 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:29,079 friends first, and then we became boyfriend and girlfriend and it was mostly like 52 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,000 I remember, it was like towards my senior year of high school and a 53 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:38,040 couple of years after you were we were a boyfriend and girlfriend. Yes, 54 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,079 yeah, think were like four years, right for four years? And then 55 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:47,759 you broke up with me in your El Camino behind the Marie Calendars in Kenoga 56 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Park parking lot. You uh took me for lunch and then you said, 57 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,079 I have to we have to break up because you know, well because I 58 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,959 wasn't twenty one yet, so I couldn't get into bars. You did. 59 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,959 You were twenty one, you even though I had a fake ID, and 60 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,959 you wanted to, of course, you know, go off and be single. 61 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:15,680 And I was heartbroken. I that was that was an excruciating experience. 62 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:21,639 I felt really bad. You remember that, I got I remember it totally. 63 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,319 Yeah, I remember. And then you told you you sent me a 64 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,199 song, remember, No, you told me to listen to patients from Guns 65 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:40,759 and Rotaries. Oh yeah. And and the funny thing is that the lyrics 66 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,279 MAT's exactly what was going on. Yeah, that's true. And that made 67 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:50,319 me seriously, you know that that seeing you and being so heartbroken and then 68 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,319 listening to that song. I think, I think I broke down to I 69 00:05:56,399 --> 00:06:00,439 know, I remember you were you were sad, but I had understood, 70 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:02,120 of course, you know, you wanted to go off and be single and 71 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:08,040 do your thing, which you know. But uh and and so Mike and 72 00:06:08,079 --> 00:06:11,639 I we have so many memories. I just there's I remember the first time 73 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:16,120 I heard nw A was when you were driving those cars and you found the 74 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:23,120 tape in a in a rental car or something and you played it. That 75 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,720 was the funny. When I heard that music for the first time, I 76 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,959 was like, oh my god, I was laughing so hard. I remember 77 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,560 that. I remember then We're like, okay, bring it over to the 78 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,800 house. Everybody can hear it. And it was just the funniest thing. 79 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:41,240 I couldn't believe the lyrics. I know, the right, left, right, 80 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:44,199 you know, toothless and then they said god, damn you, God 81 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,480 damn you ruthless. We go they say, d damn n W a fucking 82 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:57,000 up the program that wreck. That song affected me a lot, or those 83 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,279 that music affected me a lot, you know, like call girls and women 84 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:05,199 bitches and they're they're saying all these other things that because we listened to it 85 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:12,639 so long, I started talking like that, Yeah, right, but I 86 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,800 know it was a different time. It was crazy. And I remember you 87 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:21,000 also discovered Guns N' Roses the first album, and you played it and you're 88 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 like, I listened to this album. I mean so many bands, the 89 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:30,000 Cult. Uh remember the Living Collar. Uh yeah, that was that was 90 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,399 like that. They were great Bullet Boys, the Bullet Boys. Yeah yeah, 91 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,759 so okay, so so so we had a lot of music we used 92 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:45,439 to listen to. So, Mike, I was also close with your family, 93 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,040 close with your mom, your brother, and and you're you know, 94 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:53,120 not really your dad. Your dad passed away at a certain point when we 95 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,560 were kids. And then yeah, and then you were the one that my 96 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,920 mom said was going to be a brick layer someday. Do you remember when 97 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:09,319 she Mike would come over and like, you know, like Jerry rigg the 98 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:13,399 cable so that we could have free cable. It's not called Jerry rigging. 99 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:18,040 It's called illegally hooking up your movie right. Yes, Back then everybody had 100 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:20,759 cable except for my cheap parents, so we didn't have cable, so you 101 00:08:20,759 --> 00:08:24,240 had to come over and do the cable. But we were boyfriend and girlfriend 102 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,959 and at one time we were You were in my room at my house I 103 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,960 grew up in and my mom walked in. Do you remember that. We 104 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,799 were like, you know, on my bed, and she knew we were 105 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,440 like kind of fooling around, and she was like, Lynette, into the 106 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,399 end, He's going to win and you were gonna lose, and he's just 107 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,879 gonna be a brick layer. This is a cable guy's gonna be a brig 108 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,679 Yeah. So that's uh. Helen Paradise wasn't a fan, but my dad 109 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:56,240 was a big fan. My dad loved Michael. Uh thought yeah, I 110 00:08:56,279 --> 00:09:00,919 thought he thought you looked like a young Victor mature. We look him up 111 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,639 and we look at each other were like, what the hell is the Victor 112 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,919 mature? I know, I know, And there was no phone so we 113 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,279 couldn't look it up. It couldn't google it right right, Like, who 114 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,679 the hell is that? Yeah? So so then, so we were a 115 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,279 boyfriend and girlfriend for four years. And then then we broke you know, 116 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:24,720 then you broke up, but then you met your ex now's your ex wife, 117 00:09:24,919 --> 00:09:26,519 and then we I was in your wedding, do you remember that. 118 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,759 Yeah, you were in the wedding. In the wedding, I was a 119 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,200 bridesmaid. Yeah, and which Yeah, it was a beautiful wedding. Had 120 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,000 a great time. That was the best wedding I've ever been to. It 121 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:45,639 was my own. It was I mean, the orders were insane, Yeah, 122 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,559 it was. It was fun. It was in Sun Valley, Idaho. 123 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:54,320 Yes, yes, right next to Bruce and Demi. Oh really, 124 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,600 I didn't know that they lived next door. Wow, at your in laws 125 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,039 place. Yeah, that was so. Then and then we kind of lost 126 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,840 touch. You got married, you were you know, living your life, 127 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:11,039 and then and then we've gotten like, you know, I think we've gotten 128 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,399 I mean we've always stayed in touch, but kind of gotten like back into 129 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,559 each other's lives recently, like in the last couple of years, wouldn't you 130 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,960 say for sure? Yeah? So, Mike, what do you do for 131 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,440 a living? Should we talk about a little bit about you? Like, 132 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,200 well, let's talk let me, let me, let's talk about you know, 133 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:33,879 your your journey you're clean and sober? Now? How many How long 134 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:41,600 I got clean and sober on June fourth, twenty sixteen. Wow, what 135 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:46,799 I'm seven and a half years clean and sober. Nice, very nice. 136 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,039 And you're going you talk to kids now, you go and talk by the 137 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:58,639 places I go to rehabs and do H and I, which is hospitals and 138 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:05,279 institutions for an A and for AA. And I throw my little spin to 139 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:13,120 it, you know, because you know drug addiction and alcoholism, especially now 140 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:18,320 you know it's a it's a mental thing, completely mental. So I try 141 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:22,600 and you know, talk to them in a way that they understand, you 142 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:28,120 know, nineteen twenty one years old, right, and they need a firm 143 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,919 hand, you know what I mean. Yes, I know, I know, 144 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,679 Yeah you can. Mike is a It could be gruff and rough around 145 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,440 the edges it some sometimes well I won't say sometimes, I'd say all the 146 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:43,480 time. You you do scream at me a lot about things, Yes I 147 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,759 do. Yes, you're very tough on me. But yes I can take 148 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:52,200 it because I know it's coming from a good place. A love. But 149 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,120 yes you are. You can be gruff and blunt and to the point, 150 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,759 but that's what we love. About you. We used to call you lou 151 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:07,600 Bundy was your alternate name, because well we would, you know, I 152 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,200 mean, we grew up doing a lot of drinking when we were growing up, 153 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,759 a lot a lot all of our friends at a young age. Parents 154 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:20,039 weren't really around. We were just hanging out in a school parking lot. 155 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:26,159 Just I was going to say that drinking McCarty one fifty one in the seven 156 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,120 to eleven big gold Cup and you have to drink it fast because the wax 157 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,840 is eaten away by the one fifty one. Oh god. We would be 158 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,919 in basically a parking lot and there'd be what I'm like eight or ten of 159 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:45,519 us, and that was like heaven for us. And then then my parents 160 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,279 used to go camping a lot. Oh yeah, Yeah, were these hallacious 161 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,519 parties at my parents' house. You know, It's just that was something out 162 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:58,639 of weird science too, you know, right, and Sunday morning we get 163 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,879 up and you're bottles, cigarette butts, everything, and we they're gonna be 164 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:07,480 here in two hours. Yes, yes, run around like like everybody would 165 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,000 run around clean. Oh, it was great. Every like anytime we heard 166 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,639 and your parents did go out of town a lot to go out, Yes, 167 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,759 And it was like Michael's parents are out of town party, Like we 168 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:22,480 were looking forward to it. Everybody would just be hanging out, you know, 169 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:26,159 listening to music, drinking, which a lot of teenagers do these days. 170 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,159 But I think we did it a little to an excess, Like I 171 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:37,480 think had we had camera phones, we would be as famous as Jackass. 172 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:41,519 I think because we did some crazy stuff. Yeah, we did. And 173 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,639 I don't know, like four or five years after that, we we got 174 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:50,639 that house. Remember that. We called it the buck Pad. Yeah, 175 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:58,320 and there was the only reason we got this house was to throw monthly parties 176 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,120 and it got crazy out of control, right. So it was Mike and 177 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:07,399 three other guys, so it was the four of you and we were boyfriend 178 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,200 and girlfriend at this time. And because yes, and I remember, because 179 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,360 a lot of chicks would come to the party and like yeah, and I'd 180 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:20,200 be in tears by the end of the night, like where's Mike. He 181 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:26,200 left with some chick, Like what the fuck? But it was this house 182 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:31,000 in Knoga Park, and it was four bedrooms with a pool, just a 183 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:35,000 party house, and it was you guys named it the buck Pad, and 184 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:39,559 you guys had flyers that went around the valley like you're having a pipe. 185 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,679 We gave out flyers, and then we also made these laminated passes, you 186 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:48,799 remember, Yes, so we would say, you know, VIP access and 187 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,639 you can get into the master bedroom where you know, all the party of 188 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:00,240 wolves are at. And so we would go to Jeremiah's, remember, to 189 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,000 the Red Onion on Tuesday night, even to the night, Yes, and 190 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:07,440 we pass up the flyers, and if you see an attractive girl, we'd 191 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,120 give them a backstage pass or a VIP pass whatever it was, right, 192 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,679 And they that was so that they could go to the bathroom in private and 193 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:18,320 like the girls at least if you get back there in the back of the 194 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,080 house, Yes, to go to the bout instead of wait in line for 195 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:24,600 the main bathroom that everybody had. That's right, that's right. I forgot 196 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,120 about that. Yeah, you're right, yes, because the guys just went 197 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,120 and pissed outside. It was really just chicks in line for the bathroom and 198 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:37,360 these parties climbing over the wall to get in, remember, yes, And 199 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,919 and these parties would happen like once a month, and you guys were became 200 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,799 like legends in the valley. People knew who the Buck what the buck pad 201 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:52,120 was. And uh, I just remember it would just be a mess every 202 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,799 Saturday or Friday Sunday morning and we would spend the day cleaning. And I 203 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,960 remember every night we'd watch Sunday Foot and then we'd watch the Simpsons. You 204 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,960 remember, like the Simpsons was a big deal on Sunday night. Yeah, 205 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,840 would we'd watch football and then the Simpsons. But what happened when you guys 206 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:15,799 went to court, because eventually the neighbors came a calling and got pissed. 207 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,879 And this house was on a cul de sac too, right, it was 208 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:25,080 you know it was it was they would in there fill the whole cold effect 209 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,159 up and we couldn't get out of that cold detack, right, And you 210 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,080 would leave that, we'd go to breakfast the next morning, go down the 211 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:36,960 street and there's just red solo cups just lining the whole like neighborhood, I 212 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,480 mean everywhere. We would have to. I remember Don and I getting a 213 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,879 trash bag and just driving around the neighborhood, like around the block two blocks 214 00:16:44,919 --> 00:16:48,519 away more red solo cups like it just never it was a sea of red 215 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,240 solo cups. And that was like our our Sunday morning as well, but 216 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,519 what happened when you guys, when the neighbors finally decided. I don't know 217 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:03,279 if I went, because I don't I don't remember. I don't remember the 218 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,240 court thing, but I know that we just got disturbing the piece or Ryan, 219 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,839 Ryan and Kelly were named on that one. So I don't I don't, 220 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,599 I don't, right, Kelly, the two other guys, the two 221 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:18,440 others, I don't remember, but I do remember that Ryan. They so 222 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:21,880 they had to go to court at some point, and Ryan stood up and 223 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,039 said, uh uh, the shooting was not our fault. Yeah, that's 224 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,799 right. What was I mean, wasn't there there was some somebody fired a 225 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:33,680 gun or something after one of the parties. Yeah, down the street. 226 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:37,039 Yeah, somebody fired a gun something like that. Yeah. And then another 227 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:44,079 neighbor was pissed because there was mailboxes missing along the street. People took mailboxes, 228 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:48,200 Yes, they snatched mailboxes or ran over with their cars. And I 229 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,400 mean, we're not proud of this stuff. That wasn't good. That wasn't 230 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,119 good at all. No, but you know, it was fun. And 231 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,640 I remember when we were leaving, we were looking through the house and the 232 00:18:00,839 --> 00:18:07,200 carpet, remember the carpet would crunch because there was so much beer or alcohol 233 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:11,799 dropped on it. And then if you walk in the kitchen with like thongs, 234 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:17,119 your your thong will stick to the floor. You couldn't walk on the 235 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,920 floor, right, I remember. And there would be like we'd be sitting 236 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,319 in the TV room and be like, what is that smell? What does 237 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,400 that smell? Yeah, and it's like somebody puked like under behind the couch 238 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,160 and nobody knew about it and they just sat there for I mean, yeah, 239 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:36,039 it was debauchery. Yeah, I I remember, you know, riding 240 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:40,200 bikes off the roof into the pool, riding skateboards off the roof into the 241 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,359 pool and just doing it was crazy. I mean, we're so lucky, 242 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,000 Mike that nobody got serious injured or killed, I know, and that we 243 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:52,240 never hurt anybody. I mean, you know, like imagine if somebody hurt 244 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:55,720 themselves at that house, Like, did we anybody ever think about that? 245 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,519 No, not even once, not a second thought, even when we were 246 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:07,440 handcuffed and people were standing at the doorway and were handcuffed and we're doing, 247 00:19:07,599 --> 00:19:11,119 Hey, have a good day, drive safely, come back see you next 248 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,119 time. Don't worry about this, we'll be okay. We're in the handcuffs, 249 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,160 no shirt, swimming shorts. Why did you guys? I don't remember. 250 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:25,480 I don't remember when what happened. We got they arrested me and Kelly, 251 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:27,680 I think, and for whatever, I don't remember what the reason. 252 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:33,920 So they cuffed us and then they made us stand at the porch front door. 253 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,920 While they're kicking people out of my house. Kelly is like, goodbye, 254 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:41,240 hope you had a good time. He's got his hands behind his back, 255 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:45,799 you know, like it doesn't need to drive our thank you for coming. 256 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,960 And then the house was empty. And then I think they just wrote 257 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,119 us a ticket and let us go, but we were definitely handcuffed on the 258 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,680 porch. Thank god, Oh my god. Wow Wow. All right, 259 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,200 Well let's we'll talk some more stories. We'll talk about other say, but 260 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:03,279 let's take a quick break. Hey, let's talk about neutrafil. Listen, 261 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,279 everybody knows I've been on neutrafoil for a long time. I went through a 262 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,400 period of time where hormones were fluctuating, my hair was thinning and shedding. 263 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,960 And the thing that I love about neutrafoil is it has a proactive approach and 264 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,240 it targets the root causes because there's not one, you know, issue fits 265 00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:29,680 all. Everybody has different issues as far as when it comes to thinning hair. 266 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,119 And not only am I've been on it for a long time and I've 267 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,240 noticed an improvement. 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Neutrofold dot com is 286 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:03,240 spelled nut r a f o l dot com. Promo code f COL. 287 00:22:03,559 --> 00:22:10,119 That's neutrofold dot com promo code f COL And we're back, and we're back. 288 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,759 We're back. So, Mike, uh okay, do you have any 289 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:19,960 stories that you can remember that you wanted to talk about or anything that comes 290 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,640 to mind, Like during that war? Well, I remember that I moved 291 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:29,799 out of my parents' house and I rented a room on De Soto. Yeah, 292 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:37,200 and then you got a job at a preschool daycare called Little or something 293 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,759 like that. You remember a Little graduates pre school. Yes, yes, 294 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:48,319 And I was working at that company, driving cars back and forth from Lax 295 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,720 and then you would I get home and then you get off at like six, 296 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:56,960 and you would walk. Yes, you would walk. I don't know, 297 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,119 because I didn't have a car, And and then you just come in 298 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,680 and we'd see each other and it's like, so it's like we were so 299 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:08,039 excited, puppy love, yes, love, Yes, Oh my god, 300 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,480 you're here. I know. We were so excited. And so you had 301 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:15,039 this room for rent, and we would just hang out in your room and 302 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:22,640 watch TV. What did we watch I don't remember, but I think the 303 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:29,839 three channels, I know. And then we would order from Uncle Ernie's. 304 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,319 Uncle Ernie sucks, remember that. Yes, So I remember my parents were 305 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,400 still like living in the house, and my mom, you know, she 306 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,240 didn't want me to have a boyfriend and blah blah blah. But my dad 307 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,880 knew. My dad knew I was on the pill. I mean, I 308 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,839 was still pretty young. This was right out of high school. I was. 309 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,599 We were doing this when I was with you all the time. I 310 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:55,119 mean, so I would spend the night, like every night at in that 311 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,480 room in Kunhoga Park, and so my dad knew where I was. My 312 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,559 mom thought I was at Pam's house, but my dad knew, like, 313 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:06,119 you know, where I was. And I remember him getting me on the 314 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,400 pill, telling me I should get on the pill, which yes, yes, 315 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,079 and he was totally fine with it and was supportive and okay, you 316 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,759 know. And and then that's during the time where I think that I was 317 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:23,039 getting my real estate license. Remember when I sold. Do you remember when 318 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:27,799 I got my real estate license? Maybe that was a few years after after 319 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,559 we broke up, but yeah, so we would. Yeah, that's what 320 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000 we were. Yeah, young puppies in love. And I guess, you 321 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:41,160 know, it's it's it's interesting that we're still like but now we're like brother 322 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,000 and sister. Like Michael Gough like, I'm only yelling at you because I 323 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:47,640 love you, and I'm just you know, I'm only looking out for you, 324 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,480 you know, and not in a weird way either when and I'm like, 325 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:57,680 I know, I want to make that perfectly clear. I know about 326 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:04,960 certain things you need little guidance, so I may be a little too in 327 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,920 your face. And you know, I don't mean to yell at you. 328 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,720 I just kind of just it's frustrating social I know, I know, I 329 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:15,559 know, but you do give me good advice. Yeah, and in the 330 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,000 end you take everything. You listen to everything I say, and you listen 331 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,759 to a bunch of other people as well, so you make the right decisions. 332 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,000 That tuls me. What as long as you're making the right decisions, 333 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,240 and uh, you're happy, that's all I care about. Thank you, 334 00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:36,119 thank you. Yes, Oh you've come a long way, because like, 335 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,559 okay, so we you know you like we said we were that was our 336 00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:44,119 youth of a lot of drinking and partying. But now what tell us? 337 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,119 Like how can you tell me? Like how you got sober? And what 338 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,680 were you doing at the time, Like I don't think we have enough time 339 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,839 for that. How have you are? But we always drink right right, 340 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,440 always drink after or not get up in the morning and take off a drink 341 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,480 and go to work drunk. It was more like, you know, a 342 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:10,079 recreational partying, but at a professional level, you know, it was every 343 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,680 night drink, drink, drink, ding, drink. And then I got 344 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:15,799 surgery. I think I was thirty three or something like that. I had 345 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:22,279 surgery and I got oxy cotton and at the time I was or vicing in 346 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:27,240 I'm sorry norco At the time I cut the umbilical cord from my corporate job 347 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:33,200 and started my own business. And it was really, really stressful. I 348 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,640 had a lot of anxiety and a lot of fear, you know, cutting 349 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,559 that cord. Recently married, wife is pregnant, right, right, So 350 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,440 I took the viking in. I'm like, hmm, wow, this is 351 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,160 good. I could conquer the world. And that's how it started. So 352 00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:52,799 in the beginning, the drugs were the answer, and in the end, 353 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:59,799 you know, the drugs were the problem. But there's this I thought viking 354 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,279 In oxycoton would help me, you know, calm my anxiety down. And 355 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,000 you know, I was like, wow, this is really cool. But 356 00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:07,720 then you can't you know, you're taking in your tolerance. As your tolerance 357 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,359 goes up, you can't take. You have to find the pills you need 358 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:18,319 to take twenty in the morning or twenty five. Where do you get them? 359 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,519 Start buying them off the street? You know it just right? Yeah, 360 00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:26,319 I'm the only person you know that had basically had such successful businesses and 361 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:33,319 drove them spectacularly into the ground, right because of wife, because of the 362 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:40,480 addiction, Because of the addiction and my selfish behavior and my uh oh, 363 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,680 it was terrible. I was a terrible person. Right, well, I'm 364 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,960 still making amends and it's seven years. Well you're I'm very proudy, you're 365 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:55,400 doing great. But so you you were married and had a child at the 366 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,480 time when you started doing this deeper and deeper? Do you now you're not 367 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,599 married? You guys got divorced. Correct. Do you think that the addiction 368 00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:15,519 had played a big part in the divorce. It's twelve. I don't know 369 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,000 a little bit, but you know it's complicated, you know, with our 370 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:27,680 son who was autistic. So when you have a parent that is in denial 371 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,519 and a parent that wants to help the child, you clash, right, 372 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,359 And you know, he was uh, you know, they were he was 373 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,240 two years old and they'd say, you know, hey, there's something wrong 374 00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:41,519 with your son. You need to you know, we need to take him 375 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,480 out to a doctor to be evaluated. And we would both say, well, 376 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,640 he's only two. How can you say that. The next year, 377 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,279 well it's only three. How can you say that? Now my radar is 378 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,839 up and me being a you know, being being working with people in their 379 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,680 houses, I'm watching the kids and all that. And when he turned four, 380 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,200 I'm like, hey, we need to get him looked at it, 381 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:07,440 I think, you know, and that was the end of my marriage, 382 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,839 that conversation, right, because she was in denial. Yeah, And and 383 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,440 the more I tried more pushback I got so yeah. And I'm not going 384 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:22,839 to say the drugs weren't probably you know, they definitely made me. You 385 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,039 know, my body is there, my brain is somewhere else right right right? 386 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Wow, I was I want to Yeah, yeah they did. Yeah, 387 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,079 yeah, But I mean, of course, like there's all kinds of 388 00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:38,440 different factors, you know. I mean, it's not just one thing for 389 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:45,839 a divorce to happen. But oh yeah, sure, So then we roommates 390 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:51,880 for the roommates, right right, So then you you get divorced, you 391 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,640 move out, and then you get deeper into addiction. Is that what happened? 392 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,440 Because this is where we lost you and I lost touch around these years, 393 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,559 I think, yeah, well I wanted to go. My ex wife 394 00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:08,839 took my son to Idaho, so I moved to Idaho to be near my 395 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:17,039 son. So I actually had that cold Turkey the if I get an addiction. 396 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:21,160 So I was pretty mellow out there about two years I was out there, 397 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,400 I think, so I didn't really have any drugs, drinking friends, 398 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:30,880 anything like that. Then moved started, you know, playing business with my 399 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,599 cousin, and that started the whole thing back up again, the addiction. 400 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,640 Oh he's terrible because then you know, we started this business and it started 401 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:47,519 flourishing, and you know it'spending every penny on that on drugs, right, 402 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:52,559 So to make myself thought, I thought I was a fully functioning addict, 403 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,480 you know, as I need these drugs so I can keep this business going, 404 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,920 and we're kicking ass, so I can't slow down now I need him, 405 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,920 even though I tried to stop multiple times. So deep down you knew 406 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,559 you had a problem. You wanted to stop, but you you didn't want 407 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:10,519 to slow down because you were, you know, kicking ask exactly. And 408 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:15,119 that's the other thing about addiction is like I am a good person. I'm 409 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,839 not a bad person. I'm like if people pleaser, right, And so 410 00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:23,480 when you're in the throes of addiction, you do bad things like lie, 411 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,720 steal, you know, things you would not normally do, right, and 412 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:32,279 then you so you have the shame and remorse for the stuff that you did, 413 00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:37,160 the shame and remorse for the the you know you're hiding so many stuff 414 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,720 from people, right, and it was soverwhelming. Right, and I feel 415 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,480 like you were by yourself, like you didn't have a support system. No, 416 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:52,240 nobody knew about it, nobody knew your family nobody and not friends. 417 00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:55,640 Right, and you moved away like you didn't have a lot of for just 418 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:04,079 people you worked with. Right, No, that's complication. So I when 419 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:08,720 I moved moved out to Central California, that's when you know it was flourishing 420 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:13,160 out there, no problem to get right, right, get more and more 421 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,960 and more my tolerance more and more and more, you know. So then 422 00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:21,599 I someone told me to get on methadone. I don't know if you remember 423 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,599 that. So No, I got a methadone and I'm like, oh, 424 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,599 this is cool, and methodone saved my life. It was really cool because 425 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,160 I don't have to look for pills anymore. It doesn't affect me as far 426 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,920 as I'm concerned. It was really cool. I loved it. And then, 427 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,079 oddly enough, my business partner got me into cocaine at forty four years 428 00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:45,160 old, and then downhill from there. Oh my god, we don't want 429 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,960 to talk about that. Oh my god. Well, so what when you 430 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:54,640 decided to get sober? Like what where? What happened? Like what made 431 00:32:54,319 --> 00:33:00,240 my partner just had enough? I mean I was trying to get hell, 432 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,680 but too afraid to ask. So I would leave little clues that you know, 433 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880 I leave it, you know, leave a world up dollar here, 434 00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:14,079 or leave the fold there, hoping he would, hey, what's going on 435 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,519 here? And nothing? Nothing? What happened? And then my attitude and 436 00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:22,200 behavior towards him was really I was resentful, I was mean and whatever, 437 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:24,799 and that was it. He just said, you're out of here, You're 438 00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:30,599 done, And believe it or not, I got on a plane with a 439 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,519 work, you know, and I didn't have no idea where I was going, 440 00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,559 and I landed out, you know, in Arizona, and the rest 441 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,839 is history. Now you're in Arizona and you got so well, you know, 442 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,480 let's let's take a let's take a quick break, and then I want 443 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,680 to talk a little bit about some funny stories with your job. Can we 444 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,799 talk about that? Okay, plumbing job. Yeah's take a quick break, 445 00:33:53,160 --> 00:34:01,200 so Mike, m yes, sorry, So you're you're now in Arizona, 446 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:06,200 which I talked about you recently because I went to see colleges in Arizona with 447 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,880 Natalia and you picked us up from the airport, and Natalia thought you were 448 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,159 really funny. You were blasting music in the car on Sunday morning driving us 449 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:21,559 to the airport. Yeah, we're Travis Scott right, yes, which Natalia 450 00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,400 loved. Yes, yes, yeah, so she thought you were really cool. 451 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,159 So so now you're in Arizona and when we talk, you tell me 452 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:35,719 these stories about some of these clients that you have in your plumbing business. 453 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,559 Yeah, And I don't know if you want to, if you want to 454 00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:43,039 talk a little bit about that, like some of these stories about you know, 455 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,599 one of the things that I wanted to tell people is you do this 456 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,639 thing. You do a good deed once a day. Yes, is it 457 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,599 once a day or once a No, it's once a day. You do 458 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:57,360 a good deed, like, yes, a good deed. So like it 459 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,159 would be it would be anything from you know, some customers don't have enough 460 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:07,800 money, and so I would do certain you know, help them out or 461 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,639 another you know, if they need something fixed on there, if it's simple, 462 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,639 right, I'll just walk up and I'll fix it, or you know 463 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,639 they have all their Amazon packages, I'll bring it over to them. But 464 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,320 or anything or say anything in that that's not why I'm there. And they, 465 00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:27,960 you know, people, you know, I can't explain it. People 466 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,320 trust me, so I talk to them in a way that they tell me. 467 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:32,280 Uh, you know, man, I've been dealing with this. I've 468 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,639 been dealing with that, and so I help them right, at least one 469 00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:40,760 today, sometimes more right. And where are you? Where's your How come? 470 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,639 I never have your kind of people come to my house. Every time 471 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,239 something breaks that needs to be fixed, it's like I got to order apart. 472 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,559 It's going to be back in another week. It's going to cost eat 473 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:53,400 under bucks. Bah blah blah blah blah. It's like never anybody gets any 474 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,519 breaks from people like you. And it's nice to hear that you do that. 475 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,639 Yeah, I don't play that game. You know. I could easily 476 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,320 do that, you know, but I don't, you know, And if 477 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,480 there is a situation that I can't fix, which is extremely rare, I 478 00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,239 will point them in the right direction. So you know what this is where 479 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,559 you go, here's what you call. And I even say things like, 480 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,000 okay, so if you do that, make sure you call me. I 481 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,360 want to know how much they bid you so they're not ripping you off. 482 00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:24,119 And yeah, and I'm I'm kind to people because people want to be treated 483 00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:27,920 kindly, you know, yes, you know if you just walk in there 484 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,199 with your pants hanging down, your butt crack showing Andre Bob, you know 485 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,559 what, how are they How are you going to help somebody? You're you're 486 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,079 in people's house. That's a sacred, sacred place to be in, so 487 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:43,519 you need to treat that with respect as well as the owner. Mike you 488 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,159 Yes, I'm very proud of you. Come a long way. Well, 489 00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:52,400 you've always been a sweetheart at at Yes, you've always been a sweet guy. 490 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,639 But now like seeing you as an adult and is it weird going into 491 00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:02,559 people's houses and like, you know, having to deal with now you're used 492 00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:06,239 to it. Well, yeah, I mean it's you know, some are 493 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:14,360 dirty somewhere between some are healthy, cat piss. I'm going to a couple 494 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,880 of a couple of hoarders. You know, we go into those houses and 495 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,840 woo, that's that's an experience. Yeah, hoarders people. Yeah, it's 496 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,920 insane. But you act like nothing's nothing's going on, nothing's wrong, Like 497 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,639 it's no what do you got going on? Yeah? That Hey, by 498 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:34,239 the way, your magazine's up to your ceiling. Oh I know, I 499 00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:40,440 mean. And what's funny thing is that with hoarders across the board, they 500 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,239 start pulling things out of the house as if they're cleaning. So while I'm 501 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,599 there, they're pulling stuff out. This happened like three times. Really, 502 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,679 yeah, And then I'm like, I guess they're cleaning. I don't know. 503 00:37:54,119 --> 00:38:00,239 And so the last one when I went there, I was in the 504 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,360 van doing paperwork, and then I saw her putting it all back into the 505 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,000 house. Interesting, So you think they're doing it to make it to show 506 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:12,840 maybe? Yeah, so they're not so embarrassed me. Look I'm cleaning now 507 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,719 look at this right. Oh that's interesting. Wow. Yeah, I know. 508 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,159 And I called nine one one for the elderly for I don't know, 509 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:25,920 plus six times times? Really, what do you mean? Why? Like 510 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,039 what happened? So you know the guys that's the woman's one time. The 511 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:35,480 woman's son lives out of town and and he said, hey, something's going 512 00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:37,400 on. I talked him over the phone. I said, yeah, I'll 513 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,199 go over there, and do you want me to describe what I saw? 514 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:50,239 Yeah, go ahead, Okay, So the house was a total disaster, 515 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,280 something as something out of a movie. The smell was unbelievable. And then 516 00:38:54,320 --> 00:39:00,039 the toilet had been broken. Now imagine I broke toilet and then you just 517 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:06,199 crap on top of crap on top of the crap. But now there's a 518 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,480 pyramid above the rim of the toilet. Okay, And she's something's wrong with 519 00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:15,440 her. She's she's not there, you know. And I told the son, 520 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:19,920 what's going on. It's filthy conditions. And I don't think she bathes. 521 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,760 She's an elderly woman. Yeah, don't do woman. And I said, 522 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,840 you, dude, you got to come down here and see get your 523 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,000 mom into some home or something. I've been meaning to do that. I'm 524 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,360 like meaning to do that. You need to get here now, bro. 525 00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,079 So I don't know. I called. I called an ambulance and they picked 526 00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,960 her up and they said she was like severely dehydrated and she hadn't had food 527 00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:46,280 for like a week. God. They actually called me and said because of 528 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:52,159 that, I saved the Really. Wow, that's gonna be that's going to 529 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:58,719 be heartbreaking. Yeah, especially with the elderly that get left alone, you 530 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,760 know. Yea. And when you're dealing with older people, it's difficult, 531 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,800 you know, because to walk on next shelves. You don't get to rip 532 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,519 people off, and you don't want to give the impression that you do rip 533 00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:13,800 people off, right right? No, I mean do you do you see 534 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,679 by I know, do you see it a lot like where people are like 535 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:22,119 living on their you know, like there's no loved ones around and they're elderly 536 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,119 and they're just kind of you know, like just alone. Like that's so 537 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,679 sad. Yeah, and hey, you know they got major problems and it's 538 00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:36,320 a major bill. So we get a call from the from the from the 539 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,719 daughter, you know, the daughter or or the son immediately thereafter. Why 540 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,519 do you charge so much? Right right, That's what I'm saying. We 541 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,760 have to treat that with kid gloves. Yeah, give the impression that I'm 542 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,320 here to screw people over, you know. Yeah, Well that's awesome. 543 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:59,440 I'm happy for you. And what's your dating life like, Mike, Uh, 544 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,400 there is, there's no dating life, Lynnette. Why you need a 545 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:09,440 nice woman? Any nice ladies in the Arizona area? Yeah, that wouldn't 546 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:16,920 be awesome. Definitely contact the show, Yes, dm uh, I told 547 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,920 you about the bougie Jim I joined. Yes, that's cool. What have 548 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,320 you been doing? I went in the cold Plunge last night. That was 549 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:30,320 insane. Did you know thedorphins? Like they say? It was weird? 550 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,360 It was. I've never done it before, so it was cool. But 551 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,400 there's no dating life, Lynette. I just work. You need a nice 552 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:46,719 you need a nice gal your age to settle down my age. And so 553 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:54,119 you're dating though right here and there? Okay? And yeah, huh here 554 00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:58,480 and there, here and there, and you haven't met anybody yet. No, 555 00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,719 No, it's difficult to beat someone that doesn't smoke pot or because it's 556 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,559 legal out here now, or or that doesn't drink to a point where you're 557 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:12,039 like carrying them into the car. Right, what's happened to me a few 558 00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:16,320 times? Right? Okay, But it's hard to find cool sober people. 559 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,079 Yeah, well I think you could. Do you mind do you want a 560 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,719 sober person to date? Or do you mind if they have like a drink 561 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,119 here and there? Yeah, I don't care if they actually don't even care 562 00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:30,840 if they drink, oh you know what I mean, or smoke pot, 563 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:37,239 but in moderation, girl, please exactly. Yeah, a lot of stoners 564 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,119 out there, I'm telling you. Yeah, back when when I was back 565 00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:44,000 in La, there were they had to pour them out of the car. 566 00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:49,679 You know, right right when I was the first Uh so sober dating if 567 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,159 you will, right, Well, you just went, didn't you go to 568 00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:58,599 some sober single event? Is that you? Who did I talk to? 569 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,039 No? I think I went. I went to a speed dating thing? 570 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:05,760 Speed dating? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, how was that that was? 571 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,920 I thought it was okay. I thought a couple of them we connected, 572 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:15,800 but I guess not. Wow, another one. No, I didn't go 573 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,800 to another one. But yeah, no, there's no no dating. And 574 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,239 Netflix is my new drug of choice. So I just need to get my 575 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:30,000 ass to the gym, get on the dirt bike more. Stop working, 576 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:35,559 Yes, I love. That's my passion is writing. Yeah, and uh 577 00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,119 and going to the gym and taking care of yourself like working on that. 578 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,280 Yeah. Working yeah, well, I mean you know you do work a 579 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,880 lot, so it is I think hard. But but you know, get 580 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,239 out there, Mike, You got to get out there. I need to 581 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,679 get out there. Yes, you know, I love to isolate. That's 582 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,039 the issue I'm dealing with because you know, you have this vision in your 583 00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:01,440 head of you know, work basically is I don't think I don't see work 584 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,480 as work. It's not a job. To me, it's more of a 585 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,079 I can't explain. It doesn't feel like a job to me. Every day 586 00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:12,920 is different and you're running around your head cut off, and no day is 587 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,119 the same. So it's kind of cool. I kind of like it. 588 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,039 I really like it. Yeah, after now you've just done twelve hours of 589 00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:22,679 complete chaos. Now what do you do? So taking a shower, climb 590 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,760 into my bench and just put what watch TV to shut my brain off. 591 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,199 Of course, it's what I'm doing for years, And thank you COVID nineteen. 592 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,559 That's what got it started. I know, I know, but you 593 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:38,039 know, everybody says like, don't isolate, don't isolate, don't isolate. 594 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,360 You know, I get the same thing. But like, as you get 595 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,840 older, what the fuck does everybody want you to do? Go to a 596 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,639 disco every other night? Like what the fuck? Like there's not like people 597 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,719 like you know what this is not. We're not living you know, Beverly 598 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,880 Hills Housewives, where there's like a dinner party to go to every Like that's 599 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,719 not real life. So you're isolating. It's like, yes, you work 600 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,519 all day, you're tired, you're with the kids, you're doing shit all 601 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,239 day. Then the only thing you want to do is just relax and watch 602 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,559 TV and shut your brain off. So if that's isolating, then so be 603 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,360 it. Bring it on. I like that, that's the way. Like 604 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,679 it's enough already. Like people, I don't know. I know you get 605 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,760 it and I get it, and we argue with each other, like you 606 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,280 gotta stop isolating. No, you gotta stop isolating. It's like, like, 607 00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:30,960 what else is there to fucking do? Yeah, what's the spot of 608 00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:36,440 taking a hot shower, you know, crawling into your bed with your soft 609 00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:43,039 comforterb comforter, pumforter and ordering a nice door dash meal. That's enticing to 610 00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:46,960 me? Of course? I agree. Going to the gym at seven? 611 00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:52,519 No, fuck that, that's too late? Yeah? Or are you want 612 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:55,519 to come go over to your house? Who's going to be there, Jim 613 00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:59,559 John? Well, everyone's gonna be here. And I'm like, no, 614 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,239 right, because I just don't want to talk to you or your friends, 615 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,239 right right, I've been talking to people all day. I want to shut 616 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,519 up. Yes, you know that there's a Squid Games by the way in 617 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,239 our city of Los Angeles at CBS Studios. Did you know this? Kaylin? 618 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,440 No, you can buy tickets and you can play squid games. Yes, 619 00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:23,760 and I got invited Friday night to go play squid games. It sounds 620 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,599 like fun, which sounds like so much fun. So on Thursday when I 621 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,639 heard about it, I was like, I'm all in, how do I 622 00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:31,159 do? They sent me the link to buy the ticket. It's only a 623 00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:35,960 limited engagement. You can go with your friends play squid games. And then 624 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,639 that was on Thursday. Then Friday came and I was like fuck that. 625 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,679 Fuck the fuck was I thinking? I ain't going to play fucking squid games 626 00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:46,119 on a Friday night at seven. I'm gonna sit there lick a cookie and 627 00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:51,320 shit, fuck that. Anybody will watch squid games and it'll probably be a 628 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,800 cattle call with like thousands of people around you. Yes, they were a 629 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,480 line or talked me out of it. Actually on Friday you're like, yeah, 630 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,920 no, I talk you out of it. I gave you the reality 631 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,239 of the situation. Yes, you know, being who you are, do 632 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,119 you have poll get in the line? And I don't think so, okay, 633 00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:10,239 great, you're gonna wait in a line up a thousand people who think 634 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,639 they're gonna become famous by eating a cookie. What'd you say? Licking a 635 00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:21,079 cookie, licking a cookie that sounds like fun playing marbles, Like I know, 636 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,440 I was like, what am I thinking? I ain't playing, I'm 637 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,159 giving a fucking So I stayed home and I watched uh oh, I watched 638 00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:34,679 Fool Me once on Netflix's that the louder Milk is the best? You like 639 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,679 louder Milk. Louder Milk is the best. Yeah, he his the way 640 00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:42,519 that he talks to his attitude and the way that he racks to people and 641 00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:47,320 talks shit on everybody. That was me, Like he was me when I 642 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,559 first got cleaned. Yeah, so totally relate. And it's about sobriety and 643 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:58,159 stuff like that. So yeah, there's another show that's like it that Stephanie 644 00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:02,679 and I would talk about with the guy from SmartLess. Uh no, yeah 645 00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:09,880 names, yes, yes, well it's it's he's SmartLess. It's not the 646 00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:15,400 it's not Bateman, and it's not uh the other guy from Will and Grace. 647 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:22,000 It's the other guy. But anyway, he did a show. I'll 648 00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,400 send it to you. It was on Netflix. It's a couple of seasons. 649 00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:28,800 It's like louder Milk. I thought he did a great Yeah, he 650 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,079 did a good job. But all right, well this, Mike, this 651 00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:35,760 has been a lot of fun. It's been a pleasure. You guys can 652 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,280 check out for me as well. Yes, and uh, do you want 653 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:46,159 to promote anything, Mike? No, but if there's some if there's people 654 00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:52,639 out there who are and I'm being totally serious, if there's people out there 655 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,519 that want to get clean or want to get sober, you can reach me 656 00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:02,400 through the show. Right, yeah, why don't you just you'll be happy 657 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,800 to talk to anybody who wants to get out of that roller coaster ride that 658 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,280 you're on and I'm here to help. Just reminder, our email is f 659 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,360 col Podcast at gmail dot com. So yeah, you can write or what 660 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,679 about aren't you on Instagram? People can DM you on Instagram? No, 661 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,119 now, no, I don't know what it is. Well then, or 662 00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:27,440 you can email us at our email or you can DM me on Instagram and 663 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,599 I'll pass along your info to Mike. Yes, and I'll be happy to 664 00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:34,480 speak with anybody about that. Okay, and we're going to do our shout 665 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,360 outs. Let's do our shout outs for our peeps. This is exciting again 666 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,519 for me because I get to do the show. Let's talk about the family 667 00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:46,960 skeptical It says, it is a podcast about raising children without religion, and 668 00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:52,480 if you're any kind of non believer, everybody's welcome. They are your people. 669 00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:57,480 So one episode every couple of weeks, and it shouldn't really cut into 670 00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:00,679 people's f c OL time. 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