Elan, Welcome to Israel. You've been here before. Yes, this is
a visit unlike anyone, because you started it out in the communities, right
next to a gaza where the horrendous massacre took place. We went there together
and then I showed you a short film some of the cars, and I
wonder if you can give you some of your impressions of what you saw.
It was jarring to see the scene of the masker or one of the scenes
of the maskers, as well as to see the short film afterwards that's a
short more of is that people getting killed. I was troubling in that bybe
especially to see the joy experienced by people that were killing innocent civilians, including
kids and babies and fenceless people essentially. So you know, it's one thing
if ously if civilians die, but if it's another thing to revel in the
joy of killing civilians, that's not that's evil. It's really a manifestation of
a difficult That's what come up is it's a deaficult and the glorifying gore.
I mean, some of the things that we saw are children being murdered in
front of their parents, being murdered in front of their children, mothers who
hid their little boys in a laundromat and an oven, or in a hidden
attic, and these monsters found the attic. And you can imagine what these
people felt, these little boys felt like in a grim fairy tale. The
monster is coming at you. And they killed them and burned them. They
beheaded women, they beheaded men. They tied a woman next to a tree
and rapia repeatedly and then murdered her. They had people in a nature festival,
music festival. Yeah, killed hundreds. You saw the pictures that it's
just horrible. We just killed people women. Yes, I mean the rebuttal
is often made that well, you know, you know Israel has killed civilians,
you know, also in gossip. But there's an important difference here,
which is that Israel tried to avoid killing civilians during everything it cans to to
avoid killing civilians, and you know there's not sort of joy expressed. Well,
it's regret. First of all, every civilian casualty is is a tragedy,
and we try to minimize them. But what is happening here is that
Kamas is essentially committing a double war crime. The first war crime is to
deliberately target civilians and not only target them, but mutilate them, break them,
behead them, burn them. The second war crime is to deliberately hide
behind civilians, which is what they're doing in Gazma. So they're not an
army in bases or out in field maneuvers. They're implanting themselves in residential areas,
in schools and hospital The hospitals are their command centers. We found tunnels
there with the military equipment, with guns and camo. So what do you
do against an enemy of this kind, Well, the one thing you cannot
do is give immunity to the terrorists because they're hiding among civilians. Because if
you give them immunity, everybody says they shouldn't be doing this effectively. Nobody
is willing to take the action to make sure that this is not an effective
tactic, because if it is, it'll repeat itself again and again. By
the way, Hamas says, we're going to do it again and again.
But it's not only against Israel that they'll do it. This will spread very
quickly throughout the Middle East and peril the entire region. From there, they'll
go to Europe, and from there they'll also build elsewhere to America, whom
they call the great Sitty. We're just a little America. So America is
a great sat and this is any It's iranisbaalah Kamas. It's all part of
that same access goes against Israel, the United States, free civilization, and
the modern Arab States. We're all on one side. There on the other
side. So how do you fight it. Well, let's see, you
know, the people who are protesting that what Israel is doing to not take
into account the fact that Israel asked, we called on the Palestinian population to
leave the Zona fighting. Okay, they wanted to leave. Guess who stopped
them at gunpoint Comas. Okay, we broke that and created a cord,
a safe corridor that they could leave to the southern part of the Gaza strip
where no fighting was taking place. And gets who fired on the safe cordon?
That we a safe corridor, Comas. So it's not Israel that's preventing
the civilians from leaving the war zone. It's Commas. It's not Israel that
is shooting that civilians who want to escape, it's Commas. But we shouldn't
give them the ability to, you know, to escape responsibility, which is
what all these demonstrations are happening. You know the example I'll give Hitler does
this horble, you know, these horrible crimes. He perpetrates the Holocaust.
The Allies strike it back, they invade Normandy, the Germans hold themselves up
in the German cities. Nobody said, well, don't attack the Wehrmacht,
the German army, the Nazi army, because you have the civilians there.
In fact, that's exactly what the Allies did through the cities of France and
the cities of Germany, and many civilians were killed. I don't know what
history would be like if you had you know, the kind of mass communications
that we have today in protests would have been launched against the Allies on behalf
of the Nazis, because, as the German Chancellor will visited Israel and solve
these horrors. He said, Kamas are the new Nazis, Commas are the
new Nazis. And people are demonstrating either out of ignorance, A lot of
the protesting or the wrong side I mean it is. It was troubling to
see massive protests in almost every major city in favor of almost well, they're
generally characterized it as sort of a free Palestine movement, and I think you
know, one generally agree that we want to, you know, a good
future for Palestinians, and we want to you know, I mean, the
challenge is really how do you get rid of the ones who are help adds
on murdering Jewish people while you know, minimizing explaining casualties, and then awkwardly
stopping the sort of propaganda that is convincing people to engage in murder, so
that at the end of the day that's really essential is to figure out,
Okay, what how are they being trained to have these to believe that murdering
and having joy at the death of civilians is a good thing, and to
stop that training, Well, I think you hit the nail on the head
because you have we have a first omission to destroy Kamas. Nothing's going to
stop because if you want peace, destroy Kamas, If you want security,
destroy Lamas, If you want a better life for Palestinians in Ghazl will been
hijacked by Ramas, destroy Kamas. All that is a precursor to the question
that you asked. First, have to get rid of the poisonous regime as
you did in Germany as you did in Japan in World War Two. These
were two There's no choice, there's no choice. So there's a prerequis yes,
But then look at what happened. What you had in Germany was de
nasification, and what you had in Japan und your Douglas MacArthur was a cultural
reformation. And Japan that you visit today is so different from Japan of the
nineteen thirties. Germany that you visit today is so different from Germany of the
nineteen thirties. Well, is that possible in the Arab world? And I
categorically say, of course, because we've seen it already in two places.
We've seen it in the Gulf States, and we see that when you visit
Dubai, or when you visit Abu Dhabi, or when you visit Bahrain,
you see something entirely different. There was in fact a cultural change there.
And let me say that same thing is in my opinion, happening to a
considerable extent in Saudi Arabia. The de radicalization of these Muslim countries, these
Arab countries, some of it already took place, some of it is taken
Yeah, but there's another country where a substantial Arab minority where that is already
taking place, and that's called Israel. Twenty percent of our citizens are Arabs,
most of them Muslim. They serve on you know, in high places,
in the Academy and the Supreme Court, in the Knesse and and so
on. And I'm not saying that there aren't there isn't some radicalism there,
but mostly there isn't. In fact, they're integrated into the society. So
we have to do the same thing. We have to militarize Gaza after the
destruction of Kamas, and we have to do radicalize Gaza, and that will
take some time, especially work on the mosques and on the schools that's where
children are, you know, imbide their values. And then we have to
also rebuild Gaza. And I hope to have our Arab friends help in that
context, and you know, I'd like to help as well. So I
think it's important to pair of firmness in taking out the terrorists, those who
wish or intent on murder, and then at the same time to then help
those who remain, which is also what happened in Germany and Japanese. Actually,
you know, it's interesting because this is quite a rare thing in history.
Usually the victor pillages the you know, the loser. And if you
look after World War One, you know, the Treaty us I was a
big mistake and it created emense betterness in Germany and it's part of what led
to World War two and then World War two that people realized, listen,
we actually need to rebuild the economies and instead of punish it. And so
you know, you had the rebuilding of Japan, rebuilding of Germany as much
bureau and then we've we've had peace and prosperity for a long time. I
think that this is possible, but it has that small prerequisite. I'm saying
small, I don't really mean small, big job getting rid of Tamas,
which we will remember that what is is will suffered on this toominious day of
October seventh was proportionately like twenty nine eleven. So you know, when people
make us cease far sure Ramas as well. You know, if we're still
around, we're going to do it again. And again that's a direct quote.
Yes, okay, so would you make it? You don't need to
read between the lights, if you just read the lights. They're quite explicit
about it. Yes, So obviously we can't do that anymore than America would
make a ceasfire without CATA after nine eleven. Yeah, and this is twenty
nine. So they have to go and they will go. I'm talking about
combatants, I'm talking about terrorists, talking about terrorists, chieftains. But then
I think we can build a different future with the Palestinians. And the thing
that I have to also really respond to is these demonstrations against c Israel,
which is the only force that is taking measures to prevent civilian casualties. We're
trying to do everything that we can, including entering into Gaza humanitarian help.
But we have mass demonstrations. Where were these demonstrations when over a million Arabs
and Muslims were killed in Syria, in Yemen, many of them starving to
death, those who didn't die in explosions in battle, Where were the demonstrations
in London, in Paris, in San Francisco, in Washington? Where are
they? And the answer is they don't care about the Palestine. They hate
Israel, and they hate Israel because they hate America. And they say,
they say, from the river, free Palestine, from the river to the
sea. Right, you know what the river to the sea means yes,
the river river, it's called the Jordan River. The sea is the Mediterranean
in between US Israel, right all of fifty miles wide. When they say
free Palestine from the river to the sea, they say destroy Israel. Yeah,
so they're demonstrating for the destruction of Israel on behalf of people who committed
the worst savagery perpetrated on the Jewish people since the Holocaust. That is a
moral collapse. And it's understandable that people will have concern for civilian casualties because
we do as well. That I understand. It's inconceivable and incomprehensible that people
will actually both this on behalf of these murderers, these deliberate killers of babies
and not you know, they're not accidentally killing these people. We went into
these cottages today, we saw where these killers came in and shot cribs,
Yes, shot families, murdered, bullet casings in the cryb bullet cases at
the crib. Exactly. It's just shocked. And so one has to understand
in every legitimate war, there what you said before, the accidental civilian casualties
that accompany any legitimate military action. That's often happened, happened to the island
avoidable, It's unavoidable. Unfortunately, you try to minimize them. But what
these terrorists camas Terras did is deliberately crossed the line. They were out there
to massacre, murdered civilians on mass And let me tell you Schultz, the
Chancellor of Germany called him when he visited Israel, he called him the new
Nazis called Tamas and new Nazis. Tell you what the difference between the original
Nazis and the new Naziss If they had the capabi, if they weren't thrown
back by grave soldiers flooded the lines and brave civilians who fought with their finger,
Nay, they would have killed every life. Yeah, So you know
what do you do to correct these lies and these distortions. Well, one
the truth, have the conversation we're having today. But I think there's also
there's a weakness in Western higher education. Not new. In nineteen thirty three,
shortly a few days after the rise of inter the Oxford student Union had
a debate, and the debate was should that generation fight for king and country?
And they resolved two to one, under no circumstances to fight for king
and country. Well, they soon learned differently, they couldn't if they tolerated
this kind of aggression that Germany was perpetrating, the Barbars. It soon spread
to Britain, it soon spread to the entire world. If we tolerate this
kind of barbarism that Hamas perpetrated on Israel, by the way, on Jews
and Arabs alike. In Israel, Arab citizens Bedwinds. They spoke to me,
these Bedouin fighters in the Israeli Defense Force. One of them said,
you know, I woke up on that day, rushed to the line,
and the first thing I saw, he said, the first thing I saw
was a corpse of a woman, a headless corpse of a woman. And
he said to me, then I knew exactly what we were fighting. We
is Arabs and Jews in fighting these monsters. So I think that once we
recognize that we have to unite all the forces of civilization against this new Barbers
and this savage medievalism that try to stop a better future for all of us,
we can achieve this future. I think if we beat Ramas, we
can go back to peace in Saudi Arabia. I think we can expand the
circle of peace beyond anything imagine. We can build that, rebuild and build
development projects that will defy the imagination of the world. But first we have
to win. It's like against the Nazis, it's like against al Qaeda,
it' slight against Isis. First you have to win. Yeah, I think
that makes perfect sense. Those who are intended murder must be neutralized. Then
the propagandas stop. That is training people to be murtterers in the future,
and they're making gods of prosperous and if that happens, I think will be
good future. Well, I hope you'll be involved in help. And the
fact that you came here I think speak volumes, speaks volumes of your commitment
to try to secure a better future. You know, I wish we had
more time the last time we spoke about AI. Yeah, And I think
even here, on this short visit, you add a glimpse of the great
talents. Yeah available, here's metaund measure, but it's talent that served the
world. It's in all these things. You look at your iPhone, you
know a good part of it was made here. It will use ways made
here. Sure we get a cherry tomato it's made here. That's the positive
part of the future that we have begun to build. And we'll resume building
after this, after we defeat Kamas. Because and then the last thing I've
never seen the elon so united. We have an opportunity to quire among ourselves.
Our politics are famous for it, and yet here everyone united, Everyone
united formed the Unity Government and emergency Unity Government and the people and the it's
not really the soldiers as families, even families of soldiers are on the front
line and they say, finish the job so we can have a better Yeah.
Well, I hope for a better future for Hearin, for the world.
Thank you and thank you for coming here. Yeah, thank you. Van