1 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:33,799 Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise Idahol. This is 2 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,920 your host, Adam Graham. If you have a comment, email it to 3 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,359 me Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net. Follow us on Twitter at Radio 4 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:47,479 Detectives, and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash 5 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,520 Great Detectives. If you're enjoying this podcast and you want to be sure that 6 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,880 you never miss an episode, I encourage you to follow us using your favorite 7 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,079 podcast software. Our listener support campaign continues. You can become one of our 8 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:04,959 ongoing Patreon supporters for as little as two dollars per month just by going over 9 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,959 to Patreon dot Great Detectives dot net. However, you can as always still 10 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,959 support us on a one time basis, and I want to thank Ruth Ellen 11 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:19,560 for supporting us at support dot Great Detectives dot net. Thank you so much 12 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,760 for your support. Now it is time for this week's episode of Follow Vance. 13 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:30,319 The original air date March the fourteenth, nineteen fifty and the title as 14 00:01:30,439 --> 00:02:02,040 the Mathematical Murder Case. You think you got the step now, Betty Low, 15 00:02:02,319 --> 00:02:06,400 Yeah, only in mature. Let's try it once more, Eddie, 16 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,719 Okay, I'll set the temple you're coming after ready? All right? At 17 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:20,960 that? At that? Alright, alright, alright, let's quit. You 18 00:02:21,039 --> 00:02:23,560 missed it again. I'm sorry. I guess my brains aren't in my feet. 19 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Let's try it once more. I won't miss it this time. Once 20 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,560 to us to trying it again. See, you'll get it this time. 21 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:31,759 You'll miss the next. I will never make it. Betty Lowe might as 22 00:02:31,759 --> 00:02:35,560 well quit right now, quick, you'll quit. Oh no, what do 23 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,159 you think this is fun? Rehearsing gonna joint with no mirror to watch yourselves, 24 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:42,199 no piano, no nothing, trying to teach you a sock routine when 25 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,879 you can't even do a simple routine? What is this fun? Well, 26 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:46,240 it isn't fun for me either. In well, right now, I'm selfish. 27 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,120 I'm worried about me. Right now, you stay here and practice that 28 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,639 routine. I'm going out for saying, Oh, bring me one, Eddie, 29 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,719 good yourself when you're finished. Aren't you coming back? I don't know, 30 00:02:55,759 --> 00:03:00,719 I ain't sure. Maybe i'd better make up your mind for you. 31 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:04,199 You're coming back, Eddie, and you ain't gonna be too long either. 32 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,240 What makes you think so? I'm telling you that's what makes me think, 33 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:12,199 So don't try to walk out on me, Eddie. It isn't smart and 34 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:16,360 it isn't healthy. Oh, the sweet little girl's getting tough. I used 35 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,479 to be a sweet little gal before I met you. If I'm tough, 36 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,479 you made me tough. So don't try walking out, Eddie. Just make 37 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,840 sure you come back, boy, or the next dance you do is gonna 38 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:52,960 be at the end of a rope. Hello, what ay hi? What 39 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,800 can I get to? Eddie? Throwing for me? Black Danny? You 40 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,680 are ready drowing for you? Black? Hush your business? Eddy? Why 41 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:01,759 ask me? Why ask you? Who else would I asked? See? 42 00:04:01,759 --> 00:04:04,560 You've been up there in front of people, hope and listening to them applaud. 43 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,560 That's living, Eddie, that's really living. What happened to the coffee 44 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:11,360 I ordered? Coming up? How's Betty Louse? She all right? She's 45 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,840 sure is a swell kid. She's real show business. She is. See 46 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,360 how I was coffee Dan? The coffee It draw one in the dark. 47 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,079 Sometimes at night I kind of imagine this restaurant is a stage, like and 48 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,839 I'm only acting. I've been a waiter. I guess that's just another kind 49 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,879 of dreaming, isn't it an Yeah, I guess Look, Dann, I 50 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:31,680 got a problem now, how by room at this table for one morning? 51 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:35,000 Hello, Joey, sure, I'll go get you your coffee. Eddie here, 52 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:38,759 aren't you gonna wait and see what I'll have? You'll decide what you 53 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:41,399 want, yelling out yourself. You're in a show business. I don't have 54 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:44,879 to wait on you. What a character that, Dannis? How Joey? 55 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:47,839 Hey? Yeah? Should that has a dance team going? Eddie, it's 56 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,199 going bad. That's going with you? Oh? I got a new little 57 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:56,879 gimmick that's paying off. Kind of cute guy named Euclid taught it to me. 58 00:04:57,439 --> 00:05:01,040 Mathematical trick, Yoklid. Didn't they do a mind reading act? And 59 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:04,040 Yulklid was a Greek? Well, I think this guy I'm talking about it 60 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:08,560 was a Greek two He worked with a black Yulkid's been dead a thousand years. 61 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,439 Oh, couldn't be the same guy, the nice figuring. I'll look 62 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:16,480 at him. I get a sucker to put any three numbers down on a 63 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:21,040 hunk up paper, and underneath them he reverses a number in some tracts. 64 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:25,519 So then he gives me the last number of his answer and I bet him, 65 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:30,839 I can tell him the first two whoa everybody bets natch. I know 66 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,720 I didn't look at their numbers, and I collect were your kidding? That's 67 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,199 a cinch or you gotta dope, shut up, shut up, or break 68 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,279 your neck. What's with you, Joey? All I was doing was telling 69 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,079 you how that thing works. Yeah, the guy used to doing Infordville showed 70 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,360 it to me. Any three numbers, you reverse them out? Shut up 71 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:49,759 at him, Stop wising up the suckers. I'm good for a couple of 72 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:54,680 hundred bucks a week betting guys on this gimmick. You don't spoil my racket, 73 00:05:54,759 --> 00:06:06,199 or I'll spoil your kisser. I'm sorry, I can't talk to him 74 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,120 right now. Final answers in my office. Tell him I'll call him back. 75 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:14,279 Bye, Sorry Vans, where were we? No reason to apologize, 76 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,199 markam Well. Anytime a private investigator drops in to see the district attorney, 77 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:23,480 he expects into rustions. We were discussing some complaints you said you've been getting. 78 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:27,240 Yes, of course, it seems that some people have called and mentioned 79 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,920 a fellow named Joey Sanders who has a mathematical gimmick of some sort. You 80 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,079 take any three numbers, reverse them, subtract, tell him the last number 81 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,639 of the answer, and he tells you the first two. How's that done, 82 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,199 Vans. It's very simple, Markham. In fact, there's a much 83 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:45,920 cute trick with four figures. You see, all mathematics is based on the 84 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,040 figure nine. Now remember, I'll be right with your fans. I want 85 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,519 to hear that. Hello, Markham speaking all dear he Thomas. Yes, 86 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:59,639 he got a murder da murder stone dancer. What are the details? I've 87 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,560 been found him in a deserted section of town. No fingerprints, but we've 88 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,199 got one clue, and I'm picking up a girl who was his dancing partner. 89 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:10,279 Name's Betty Lew Taylor. You want to come down a question her. 90 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,040 I'll meet George your office at an hour. I don't answer, and I 91 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,680 were just discussing a mathematical formula. I'm sure he'd much rather figure who killed 92 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Eddie's stone? No, no, no, I don't know, so Die 93 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,759 and he I tell you I don't know who killed it? And I tell 94 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:38,759 you you do. Look, miss, this is my job, this is 95 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:41,920 my office. I'll keep you here with me all week if I have to. 96 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:45,160 You know something about the murder of Eddie Stone, and I'm gonna find 97 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,160 out what it is. I don't know anything about it. I danced with 98 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,759 him and that's all. I didn't kill him, and I don't know who 99 00:07:49,839 --> 00:07:53,720 did. I know. Differently, you were at the scene of the murder. 100 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:56,839 We know definitely you were there. It wasn't I wasn't near the place. 101 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,079 I didn't know Eddie was dead until you came from me. Please leave 102 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,720 me alone. I can't tell you anything I don't know. Oh, hello, 103 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:09,800 mister Markham advance. This is the young lady who told me about him 104 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,439 a telephone here. Yeah, she says she didn't even know the guy was 105 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,800 killed. But what she really doesn't know is that we can put her right 106 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:20,040 at the scene of the murder. Oh, he We found a girl's footprint 107 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,720 right near the body. That's how a footprint is the same size as this 108 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:28,680 girl's shoe. No, she says, yeah, that's hardly conclusive evidence. 109 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,559 A footprint of a woman's shoe isn't completely incriminating. This one is da. 110 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:37,080 This girl's a dancer. The footprint we found at a mark on the toe 111 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,240 and the heel. You know what made that mark? Toe plates and heel 112 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:43,159 plates, whole plates and heel Yeah, and who wears toe plates and heel 113 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,840 plates? Only a dancer? Now, miss Taylor, will you still deny 114 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:50,759 that you were at the scene of the murder? Isn't it rather unusual for 115 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,759 a dancer to wear her dancing shoes out in the street heat, Well, 116 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:58,279 you're getting no, mister, dance, not if it's the only pair of 117 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:03,639 shoes she had. I was there. Oh, I saw Eddie's body after 118 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,399 he was killed. We quarreled, and I went out looking for him, 119 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:13,320 and I found him. I lied about it because I wanted to keep out 120 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,480 of all this. That's your story. You found him and you killed Yeah, 121 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:20,360 there's no need of you were wasting your time here, Da, I'll 122 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,000 have a confession out of this girl in an hour. Friends, Apparently Heath 123 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,879 doesn't care how I waste my time. I think I'll take a look into 124 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:31,960 this case. What for fans, I tell you this girl did it? 125 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:37,159 Perhaps maybe I don't care how I waste my time either, Sergeant he Maybe 126 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,960 if I spend a few hours, I can save the state a lot of 127 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:52,879 trouble. You mean all I have to do, joeyus think of a card 128 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:56,480 and you'll tell me what the card is. That's right. You can't do 129 00:09:56,519 --> 00:09:58,879 it? How much? Says I can't do it? Saying a buck? 130 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:01,840 A buck? You no, I wouldn't try to read a mouse's mind for 131 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:05,399 a buck. You make it five and I'll show you something that you never 132 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,840 saw before in your life. I never have to tell you the card. 133 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:09,840 All I do is think of it and you'll tell it to me. Five 134 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,080 bucks, says I can do it. Okay, you got it. I'm 135 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,159 thinking of a card. What isn't a Wait a minute, Wait a minute, 136 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:18,080 you're going too fast. First, the card has a number on it, 137 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,600 right, sure, take that number, double it, add one, 138 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:31,679 got it, we'll apply it by five. Okay, I did it? 139 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:35,799 What's my card? Wait a minute, carle, relax. You got that 140 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:39,720 number right now. If your card's a club, add six. If it's 141 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,639 a diamond, ad seven. If the mart at eight and Spade at night 142 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:50,039 got them? All right? What's the total? Ninety two? The card 143 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,360 was the eight of diamonds. That's right, Joey, how'd you do it? 144 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:56,759 Come on? Tell me how did you do that? I'll give you 145 00:10:56,799 --> 00:11:01,039 ten bucks if you show me how it's donned? Are you kid? Get 146 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:03,399 lost? You don't defended me. What do you want to do? Live 147 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,279 here the rest of your life? Come on, Stucker, move out before 148 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:11,159 I stood? Do you tell anybody you were coming here? Right? Didn't? 149 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:18,080 Okay? Stick tight? Who is missus Leeds? Your landlady? What 150 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:22,480 do you want? My rents paid? Open the door? Joey? Please? 151 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,039 Hello, Joey. Why don't you be nice to me anymore? Why 152 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,960 don't you my rents paid? You want me to move up? When my 153 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,440 week's up? I move out? What do you want up here? Joey? 154 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,559 Don't be mean to me. I don't want you to move. I 155 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,240 want you to stay here as long as you want to. Let me come 156 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:46,039 in. Joey here? Oh so finally you see that I got company? 157 00:11:46,759 --> 00:11:52,600 Congratulations? What's keeping you here? Now? Please come out in the hall. 158 00:11:52,080 --> 00:12:01,600 This is important? Okay, wait here, Sammy, Well, what 159 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:03,919 is it that's so important? Joey? Eddie Stowe has been murdered. I 160 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,639 just heard about it on the radio. What makes you think that concerns me? 161 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,000 You don't have to talk like that to meet Joey. I wouldn't say 162 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:13,039 anything never. That's better. Wild horses couldn't drag it out of me that 163 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:18,360 you and Eddie had a fight today. Edie, you know about sure, 164 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:22,519 but I wouldn't say anything about it, Joey, I wouldn't say a word. 165 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,639 Okay, I'll get rid of the sap inside. Come back to see 166 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:41,279 me in an hour. Mike, Coffee shop, Danny speaking Hello. This 167 00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:45,279 is just your attorney, Markham. Danny, yes, attorney. Look is 168 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,039 there a man in your shop named Final Vance? There isn't anybody in my 169 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:50,639 place right now, mister Markham, not a soul. Well. Vance is 170 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,679 on his way there with the young lady named Eddy Lou Taylor. Eddy Lou, 171 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:56,759 Yes, you know for sure. I know she's in show business, 172 00:12:56,759 --> 00:12:58,879 ain't she? If anybody's in show business, I know it. Don't believe 173 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:01,720 me very well? I believe now. Look Christmas Taylor has been released in 174 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:03,759 Vance's custody. You know they've gone to your shop. I want you to 175 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:07,639 have Vans call the minute he comes in. Sure thing, mister Markham, 176 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,279 Short thing? Bye, Danny. Hey, Joey, you scared me. 177 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:15,679 What's the idea of sneaking up on a guy when he's on a telephone to 178 00:13:15,799 --> 00:13:16,919 you? Scared me? Danny, listen to me. I'm listening to you. 179 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:20,080 Joey and I I'm listening. Okay, keep your ears open and your 180 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,720 trap shut. Danny, quit it. You bend on my apron. I 181 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,120 only just put it on, Danny. Anybody comes in here, And as 182 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,919 if Eddie Stille and I had a fight this morning, you say we didn't 183 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:33,200 you hear you get me? We didn't have any argument? Sure you didn't. 184 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,879 I didn't hear any argument. Of course I saw your slug him twice, 185 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:37,360 but didn't see me clip them. You didn't see nothing. You better 186 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,960 cut it out, Joey. Somebody's coming in. So this is the place 187 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,960 where Eddie Stone used to hang out with this Taylor. That's Dan the waiter 188 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:46,840 right there. Hello Danny, Hello miss Taylor. Gee. I was sorry 189 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,240 to hear about them arresting you. Do you ever need anything? You ever 190 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,679 need a friend to stand by it? Just count on me for so long, 191 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:54,480 Danny. I'll be seeing you just a moment. My friend. My 192 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,720 name is Filo Vans. Did you buy any chance happen to know Eddie's Stone? 193 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,320 Edie Stone? Let me see? Yeah, yeah, I think I 194 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:05,879 didn't. A dancer? Wasn't he a dancer? Wasn't he? He was 195 00:14:05,919 --> 00:14:09,879 the best dancer in show business? Present Company accepted, of course, Miss 196 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:13,039 Taylor. Of thanks. This is Joey Sanders. Mister Vans, he knew 197 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,559 Eddie, he knows everybody. Joey Sanders, I know that name. Well, 198 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,000 you're the young man who's been the cause of a lot of complaints at 199 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,360 the District Attorney's office and then flatted something about swindling people with a mathematical trick, 200 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:26,039 the very old three number routine. Hey, that's no swindle. I 201 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,639 bet I can't name the first two numbers and their answer right, but I 202 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,120 can. Sometimes they win, sometimes I win. Yes, of course, 203 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,600 I know that trick is awfully old and completely fool proof. If you take 204 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,840 any three numbers, reverse them, and subtract them, the answer will always 205 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,639 have a nine in the center, and the first and third numbers will add 206 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,320 up to nine. So that's how it's done, you know, kitten gee 207 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,519 smart like you. Dan. Now suppose Miss Taylor and I escort you over 208 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:54,200 to that table there, mister Sanders, where we can talk about what Eddie 209 00:14:54,279 --> 00:15:00,279 Stone's murder. You see, I think I know who killed Stone. Danny. 210 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,559 He's making a break for the tour. Never mind, I'm near to 211 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:07,639 him. I'll get him. I got him vance think I knocked him up 212 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:11,720 when I tackled. Yes, I imagine you did. I guess you owe 213 00:15:11,799 --> 00:15:16,399 me one now, Vans, He said, you knew who killed Stone? 214 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Well, this Dan character made a break and I grabbed him for you. 215 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,639 You most certainly did. But I don't think I owe you anything. I 216 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:41,159 don't remember ever saying that Dan here was the man I thought murdered Eddie Stone. 217 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:48,440 This is just your to Tony markham Our current murder case opened with the 218 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:54,120 knifing of Eddie Stone. Dancer his partner Betty Lou Taylor, has been picked 219 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,440 up and released Advance. In an attempt to track down the killer, has 220 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:04,320 made the equips of Joey Sanders a small time swinder. Something about a restaurant 221 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:10,799 called Mike's Coffee Shop and Dan the waiter there seemed to intrigue Vans, And 222 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:18,080 he and I are approaching the place right now. What is there about this 223 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,080 Dan that intrigues you? Vans? A lot of things. First of all, 224 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,159 I want to know why he'd tried to get out of that coffee shop 225 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:26,000 when I said I knew the murderer of Eddy Stone? Oh do you know 226 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:30,240 who killed Stone? No? Believe me? It wouldn't surprise me if you 227 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,080 did. Nothing you do surprises me anymore. Sorry to hear that, Markham. 228 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,879 However, I promise you you won't be able to say that with any 229 00:16:36,919 --> 00:16:40,320 honesty very soon, won't. I you know why I said I knew who 230 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:45,960 killed Stone to see the reaction of Joey Sanders and Dan exactly. Well, 231 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,960 this is the shop and in one moment we'll be talking what what vants? 232 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,759 Somebody through this coffee cup through the window? Somebody inside the shop? Come 233 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:55,440 on, Markam, I'm with your vans. That's Dan, the waiter over 234 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,519 there with his head on the counter. What happened in here? What happened 235 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:06,480 to remember me, mister Vance here, This is District Attorney Mackham. We 236 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,119 were outside when that coffee cup went through the window. I threw it. 237 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,079 A man wearing a handkerchief over his face was in here. He held me 238 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,720 up, took the money out of the register. I threw the cup through 239 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,000 the wind and grabbed him. Yes, he hit me on the head with 240 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,720 the gun and we're out the back way. You recognize him? Well, 241 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,880 I don't know. I'm not sure. I wanted to think it over. 242 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,680 Well, I port this to headquarters one thing is certain. Vance this hold 243 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,920 up has nothing to do with the murder case we're working on. Asn't did 244 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,759 in Mockham. I don't think so, you said, I couldn't surprise you 245 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:33,799 anymore. Try this for a surprise. The hold up has a great deal 246 00:17:33,839 --> 00:17:37,599 to do with the murder, and we'll have a great deal more to do 247 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:48,640 with solving it. You don't like me, do you, Betty? You 248 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,240 really can read minds, can't you? Do? You know? Wait a 249 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:55,400 minute, take you, daisy. I didn't come over to hear you insult 250 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,359 me. Anyway. For you to stop that is to leave. I get 251 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,039 a business proposition for you, Betty. Now, thanks, but this is 252 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,640 honest. Look what that he did? What are you gonna do? You 253 00:18:03,759 --> 00:18:07,839 gotta do something? Yeah, that's true enough. Now this is what I 254 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:11,400 got in mind. Shoot, I'll teach your card code. You stay here 255 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,039 in your place, and I'll be out with a sucker. Yeah. I 256 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,599 bet him. I can dial a phone number, then have him show me 257 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,480 a card, and the voice on the other end of the phone will say 258 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,519 what that card is. This is how it works. The phone rings, 259 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:30,039 you answer it. I Instead of saying hello, you say clubs, diamonds, 260 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,799 hearts, well till I stop you by saying hello, Okay, now 261 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,400 right away? If I stopped you when you were saying hearts. You know 262 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,359 the card the suckers showed me. He was a heart. Yeah, but 263 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,119 how do I tell the number? Well, as soon as you know the 264 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,119 suit, you start to count one, two, three, four, you 265 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,079 know, like that all the way up to the king. And when you 266 00:18:49,079 --> 00:18:52,640 get to the right number, I'll say, wait a minute, and the 267 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,960 phone to the sucker and you tell him his card. It's a sense. 268 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,400 It's a sense. We'll clean up. It isn't bad out of that. 269 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:03,240 Ye see what I told you? And I aren't you glad? I come 270 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:07,880 over? Sure, but you're not going to be so happy. I don't 271 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,720 need you to work that gimmick with. All I need is some stews to 272 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:14,880 stand by a telephone. You wouldn't kid around with me, Betty Loose, 273 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,240 No, you wouldn't do anything about it, Joey, you wouldn't. Dare 274 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:22,680 The cops have it in for you right now? And I have an idea 275 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:26,400 file of vance thinks you killed Eddie. Maybe what you say yourself. But 276 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,759 all I gotta tell you, kid, is this what you try and use 277 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:34,000 that code. I touch you and you'll get what your ex partner got. 278 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,400 Joey, Please now leave me alone with Joey. Han't you got anything to 279 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,200 do but follow me up these steps. Please? It doesn't run in this 280 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:55,920 room and house. Keep you busy enough, all right, Joey, all 281 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,759 right. All I wanted to tell you was that there was a fellow in 282 00:19:57,799 --> 00:20:03,519 your room. You did what, I'll let him in. He asked for 283 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:04,440 you, so I opened the door and let him. Wait. What do 284 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,039 you look like? Come on talk? Tell me? Was he a tough 285 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,480 fellow, good looking final fants fans? No? No, it was the 286 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,480 same fellow you had him here yesterday, the fellaw Sammy, Oh that's different. 287 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:21,000 Look out, come downstairs when I through with him. Wait for me, 288 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,519 all right, Joey, Hello, Sammy, Hello, Joey. You 289 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:29,559 don't mind me coming here, do you? Well? Depends on why you're 290 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:30,960 here. Oh, Joey, listen. I've been a fall guy for you 291 00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:34,039 for a month now, betting on things and always losing. Give me a 292 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,599 chance to get my dope back. What do you mean? Well, show 293 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,960 me how you do that thing where I think of a card, then you 294 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:41,799 tell me to add muliply and everything, and then you say, what the 295 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:45,799 card it is? Let me get my dope back from some other sucker. 296 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,279 Oh is that what you want? Yeah, I'll go away, Sammy get 297 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,960 lost. Not a chance. I just I hope I'm interrupting something. Aunt, 298 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,240 what do you want here? I want to talk to you. Who's 299 00:20:56,279 --> 00:20:59,200 your friend? You're a cop. I'm no friend of his. I just 300 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,079 came here to get him to tell me how a trick was done so I 301 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:04,519 could get some of my Doughba what trick? He tells me to think of 302 00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:08,279 a card, double it, add one, muliply it by five, and 303 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,039 if it's a club, add six a diamond, add seven, a heart 304 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:15,480 eight and a spade nine. That's right. And he gets me to tell 305 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:17,920 him the total. He tells me the card. I'll teach you that. 306 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,880 In fact, I think i'll give it to the newspapers so that nobody will 307 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,880 ever bet. It can't be done at things. Guys who got nothing to 308 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:26,720 do? Thank God, don't like that, do you? Well? How's 309 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,319 it done? It's a mathematical formula. Whatever the total is gives you the 310 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,599 card. If the total ends in a one, the card is a club. 311 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:36,240 If it ends in a two, it's a diamond, it's a heart, 312 00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:40,079 and four it's a spade. How do you find the figure? Whatever 313 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:44,119 the first number is, you subtract one, understand. Oh. In other 314 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,880 words, if the total is sixty four, the card is the five of 315 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:52,160 spade. Right, nice wise and up a sucker, fans, you could 316 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,680 be thrown out of the union for that. I know, Joey. I 317 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,839 came here because I just learned about a fight you had with Eddie Stone the 318 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,920 day he was killed. Dan told you, huh okay, so I clipped 319 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,359 him a couple of times. Would you come up here for to pay me 320 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,480 back? I better get out of you stay okay, No, Joey, 321 00:22:10,519 --> 00:22:12,480 I didn't come here to slap you around, although I'd enjoy that very much, 322 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:15,559 fake Todd. I just want to warn you not to leave town, 323 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,240 at least for the next few hours. After that, after I prove what 324 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:26,839 I'm going to in that time, District Attorney Markham may have especially prepared itinerary 325 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:37,119 for you. What time is it? He almost time? Do you a 326 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:41,880 pretty nearly another thirty seconds. We've got to do this exactly on schedule of 327 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,880 Van slept explicit instructions. And after we do then what then we'll know who 328 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960 killed Eddy Stone and what's small, we'll have proof twenty seconds. All right, 329 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:52,799 you're ready, miss Henderson. Yes, that's secretary of yours is always 330 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,319 ready. Da, she's solid. I hope that means something good. Yes, 331 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,480 Okayda. Now they go up the phone to make the call as Henderson. 332 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:07,839 Yes, I sure hope this works. I hope Vance doesn't get into 333 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:15,279 trouble. We're miles away and can't help him. Mike's Coffee Shop Dance speaking. 334 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,839 Hello Dan, This is Betty Lou Taylor, Miss Taylors. Hello, 335 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,519 Miss Taylor. I have a cold and my voice may sound different, but 336 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:26,720 Dan, I want you to meet me right away. What you what for 337 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,319 a lot of reasons. I think the police are going to figure out you 338 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,480 stage the phony hold up in the store. You can't get away money for 339 00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:37,559 yourself. I think I'm pretty sure they're going to know you killed Eddie. 340 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:42,759 What are you talking about, Betty Lou? Yeah, that was somebody pretended 341 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:48,079 to be you. That's right, somebody said they were you. How could 342 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,400 they know I faked the hold up and that I killed Eddie? How was 343 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,960 the cops? The cops are final? Vance, Vance, My friends, 344 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,279 I've been here all the times the fans. How'd you get here? I've 345 00:23:56,279 --> 00:24:00,039 been in here for quite some time hiding? Of course? What are you 346 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:04,160 doing with that telephone? Who are you calling? Nobody? If you object 347 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,759 to my being near the phone, I'll move away, then that better? 348 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,359 What do you want? Vans? You realize I heard enough of the conversation 349 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,079 between you and Betty Low while I was in hiding to know that you killed 350 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,759 Eddie Stone? Dan? Oh what if I did? Sure? I killed 351 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:21,279 Eddie Stone and I faked the hole up? Dan? What's the difference if 352 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:23,079 I tell him that he knows it already, isn't got to doom any good? 353 00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:26,880 What he knows and what he can prove it two different things. What 354 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,599 was the idea of that phone call? Vans? It was a trap. 355 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,119 I knew what would make you talk, and it did. So you listen 356 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,519 only it's our word against yours. See, if you can prove I killed 357 00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:38,400 Eddie, go ahead. I don't have to prove it, Dan, you've 358 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,119 done it already. Oh yeah, The district attorney has your confession in your 359 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,279 own words. What do you mean. Let's get down to see him and 360 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:49,640 you can hear yourself confess to murder. It couldn't hear me just now? 361 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,920 I hung up the phone myself. Yeah, that connection was broken when Dan 362 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:57,480 hung up, was it? In that case? Suppose you come down to 363 00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:22,519 Markham's office, find out how he heard Dan confess. Throw the switch on 364 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:25,920 that playback machine. Mark M. I want to hear this before I bring 365 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,079 Dan and Betty lew in here. Certainly, here's the part you want. 366 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,960 Well, what if I did? Sure, I kill Thattty Stone and I 367 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,640 faked the hold up Dan? What's the difference if I tell him that he 368 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,640 knows it already, there's going to do him any good. What he knows 369 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,799 and what he can prove a two different things. Well, there's his confession 370 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,359 in his own voice. Man's just as you promise. Yes, there it 371 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,519 is. Now why did he kill Stone? Well, he idolized Betty Lou. 372 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,880 She probably goaded him into killing Stone, was threatening to walk out on 373 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,480 her. She even went along to see that the job was done. That's 374 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,599 why her footprint was at the scene of the murder. Never forgot that, 375 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,319 did you, vance No? I knew it was important all the time, 376 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:06,160 but I had to resort to a trick to get the proof we needed. 377 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,240 I still don't understand how you got Dan to confess in front of a telephone 378 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:14,079 connected with this office so we could record his words. He didn't know I 379 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,880 had taken the phone off the hook mark of him, And even if he 380 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,960 did know it, he wouldn't have realized that the connection between this office and 381 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,960 the coffee shop wasn't broken just because he had hung up. I wouldn't have 382 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,319 realized it either. In order for a connection to be broken, both parties 383 00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,880 have to disconnect. Try it some time and see. The connection must be 384 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,920 discontinued at both ends. If you say so, it's so bad. And 385 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,799 the only end I'm interested in right now is that this is the end of 386 00:26:42,839 --> 00:28:08,720 The Mathematical Murder Case. The Piper welcome back, Okay. Even though PI 387 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:15,799 Day wasn't a thing back in nineteen fifty, I guess it is appropriate for 388 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:23,480 a story called The Mathematical Murder Case to be released on March fourteenth. I 389 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:29,519 enjoyed all of the little math tricks in this episode, and it did provide 390 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:34,480 some insight into how some card tricks might work and some of the tricks that 391 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:42,720 various mentalist entertainers do. The one thing the episode made me wonder is what 392 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:53,440 the exact relationship is historically between illusionist and mentalist and con men like, were 393 00:28:53,480 --> 00:29:02,119 there some con games that were then adapted for magic show or mentalist shows the 394 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:10,680 full purpose of entertaining or were there some magic tricks which were repurposed into con 395 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,839 games. Now, obviously there is some relationship. In one of the short 396 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,880 series we played Easy Money a few years back, it was explained how a 397 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:26,799 sleight of hand gadget that a magician might use could also be used in a 398 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:33,720 theft, So there's definitely a relationship. I'm dubious that this guy could be 399 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:38,920 as successful as he was in these sort of mental tricks, certainly not to 400 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:45,599 the degree that comes a matter of discussion for the district attorney. Essentially, 401 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:51,319 these feel like pretty well thought out bar tricks. It's the type of thing 402 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,759 you'll win a buck or two from your buddies at a bar, and the 403 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:02,279 scheme has an obvious problem at some point folk In I think a normal and 404 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:07,759 sane world, people would stop betting with the guy on the sort of thing. 405 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:12,359 Word would get around. Only in the file of vance universe would this 406 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:19,119 type of thing grow to the level of a concern that the DA needs to 407 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:26,440 address, because essentially the guy walks up to people that he has taken a 408 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,880 dozen times in a month, ask them a question, and the people say, 409 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,039 in effect, you know that sounds interesting. Will you take my money 410 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,839 and trick me? As for how they got the confession, I think that 411 00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:47,160 that was mostly sound, though if anyone is expert in the way that landlines 412 00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:55,559 worked, I'd be open to hearing a correction or clarification of Vance's explanation of 413 00:30:55,839 --> 00:31:00,000 how ending a call work, the idea that both sides have to hang up 414 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:06,680 for connection to actually be severed, because certainly I had the experience where I 415 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,079 would in the call and I would come back and connection wasn't closed like the 416 00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:15,559 other person had left, but they'd left the line off the hook. But 417 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,200 I was generally able to end the call even if they didn't come back, 418 00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:26,240 although that may be to some advancement beyond where the telephone was at in nineteen 419 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,759 fifty. 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And also if you have something to say, 428 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,160 feel free to leave it down in the comments. All those great things 429 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,319 help our channel grow. We will be back next Thursday with another episode to 430 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:22,160 follow Vans. But coming up tomorrow it's the conclusion of the Valentine where you'll 431 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:27,400 here doesn't it ever cool off in your Orleans sometimes? But I'm not here 432 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,279 to talk about the whether, missus Valentine. You know that? Yes? 433 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:32,880 No, Well, don't just stand there and give me the tears. Then, 434 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,599 if you've got anything to say, say it. If you know anything 435 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,039 that'll help let me know about it. You're perfectly right in being angry with 436 00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:45,240 me, mister Doller. I honestly don't know where Dan is. Well, 437 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:46,920 do you know why he'd get up out of a hospital bed and in danger 438 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,799 his life? I have an idea he might have wanted to see somebody who 439 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,400 I don't know. The two men a shot at him, Seraps, I 440 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,559 just don't know. We aren't getting anywhere, missus Valentine. Look, I'm 441 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,960 going to talk to you, frankly. Why did he come here to live 442 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,599 in New Orleans? Well, you live in New England with your daughter, 443 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,599 Teresa. Obviously, Dan thinks a great deal of you in her. He's 444 00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:15,440 given you everything, provided for you with all of his troubles, spent thirteen 445 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,279 years in prison. I can imagine its thoughts about you and her while he 446 00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,440 was in there, and yet he comes out and lives two thousand miles away 447 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,720 from you. He didn't want to interfere with Teresa in any way, sure, 448 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,279 but it seems to me he'd want to look at you and her, 449 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,960 certainly, even if it was a matter of living in Boston and taking a 450 00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:34,880 bus to New Salem and standing on a street corner one day to watch the 451 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,559 two of you cross the street. That sound reasonable to you if you put 452 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,839 it that way. Well, look, there's some reason he picked New Orleans, 453 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,240 some reason he didn't give himself the little gratification of just looking at you 454 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:51,000 and Teresa. Why why here hand sure, I don't know, and why 455 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:52,920 is he running around now? I can't answer that either, but it must 456 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,359 have something to do with you and your daughter. Obviously you're the only ones 457 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:05,480 they ever cared about. Well, I honestly don't know well, and I 458 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,960 can't help you, and I can't help myself or him. You mentioned his 459 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,880 having a reason to be in New Orleans. I hope you'll be with us 460 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,719 then. In the meantime, do send your comments to Box thirteen at Great 461 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,559 Detectives dot net, follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 462 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:29,280 out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash Great Detectives From Boise, 463 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,159 Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham's son and Off