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the Secret teaching show on Ground zero
Radio, Ryan Gable, how's it going,

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my friend? Anytime we talk about
UFOs, it's going good. Writer,

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And we just got a bombshell,
dude, a freaking bombshell. We're

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going to get into here in just
a few minutes. But I really want

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to get your thoughts on really quickly. Why is it that no one really

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cares about the past or like the
past events. Why is it always that

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they go back to Roswell, which
we know that Roswell wasn't made popular until

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Bill Moore's book in nineteen eighty which
was filled with missing disinformation from the government.

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And then he gets in front of
the mouf on UFO conference and tries

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to tell everybody in nineteen eighty nine
that all of its bullshit is all made

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up nonsense, and they boo them
off of the stage. But I've done

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two episodes so far of my new
show, Legends of Ufology, and I

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really feel like I'm getting to the
bottom of the entire subject, especially the

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one that I did on Wednesday surrounding
Paul Benowitz. And we've talked about is

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Paul Beinewitt several times, so we
don't really need to rehash that whole thing,

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but they're not popular, Like people
don't care about that stuff, like

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they want the thing that's going on
now. And my thoughts and my ideas

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around it is like, well,
if you want to know what's going on

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now, you kind of have to
go back to the beginning to try and

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figure out where do these thoughts and
ideas originally originate from. Were these people

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credible? Was this miss and disinformation
coming from the government? Who are these

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people? What were they claiming?
And you will figure out what's going on

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now based off of the things that's
happened in the past. So I just

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want to get your thoughts really quickly
on why do people not care so much

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about the things that happened in the
past, If it doesn't surround Roswell,

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if it doesn't really surround the Washington
Flap event, if it doesn't really surround

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keg Like they don't want to know
about these first contact these that I talked

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about in my Kenneth Donald Legends of
Ufology show about Samuel Eden Thompson in nineteen

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fifty this wholid UFO in Washington State. He's considered the very first contact he

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Ever, no one has ever heard
of him. No one knows anything about

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him because it wasn't published. His
story wasn't published until two decades after his

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initial sighting. But no one wants
to hear about that. No one wants

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to hear that. Kenneth Arnald never
said that the UFOs were sorcerer in shape.

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He said that the UFOs were They
were batshaped, wing shaped, boomerang

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shaped, and sometimes he referred to
them as a pie pan. And he

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was misquoted by saying that the way
that the sorcerers flew was like sorcerers skimming

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across water. Like you would think
that these would be really important revelations for

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people to really under stand in this
community, but it just gets looked over

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time and time again. Well,
if you're concerned with objective research, objective

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analysis, you don't get much of
that in euphology, and you certainly don't

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get much of that within the paradigm
as we talked about last time, which

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includes the way that all forms of
media handled the subject. There's a paradigm

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there euphology believers and media skeptics,
and outside of that paradigm includes what you're

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saying and what people like Carl Jung
said, people like Jock Falla said,

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and both of them never actually said
that they had the answers. They just

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said, these are different theories and
UFOs might be psychic projections, or the

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UFO abduction law is very similar to
the fairy legends and fairy law, not

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providing an absolute answer, which is
what we find a lot in eupology,

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people saying that their experiences are factual
things, and maybe that's true, but

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that doesn't confirm that the phenomenon is
real by some pop culture, Hollywood esque,

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et cetera definition, And that's part
of the problem with eupology. It's

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part of the problem with how the
media handles upology. It's part of the

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problem with these UFO hearings with David
Grush, which we'll probably talk about that

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during this show tonight, because we
have articles from the same source that broke

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the original A tip story The New
York Times and others telling us that behind

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closed doors, David Grush didn't really
give them. They can't say exactly what

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he gave them or didn't give them, but they didn't really He didn't really

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give them anything that they already didn't
know, despite all his big promises of

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telling the government what he knows,
and he basically they say, well,

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we can't say what he said,
but we already knew all this stuff.

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So it's not a revelation, but
it's a popular thing. It drives clicks,

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it drives clout, it drives cash. This three cs of euthology as

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I call them, and a lot
of other fault like ideologies, and that's

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what trends on social media, which
also drives a lot of our interest in

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these subjects. And although we might
not look back to Roswell, necessarily Roswell,

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which is important no matter if it
was how exactly it was originally explained,

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is what happened, or what the
government said after the fact when they

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change their story, or if it
was all a psychological thing, whatever the

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case is, it's still an important
story. But it's not the base of

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eufology. It goes back many many
years, even before this first experience or

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in the nineteen fifties, the UFO
phenomenon goes back thousands of years. And

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in the same way that most euthological
researchers don't address the things that you just

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brought up, writer, it's also
not common, or it's almost non existent,

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to address the fact that UFOs as
a phenomenon and as we see them

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as these disks relate to some of
the oldest archetypical symbol that are in any

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symbol book and a lot of mythology
books. It's the flying solar disc of

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raw or Ama Terasu. I think
I brought that up before too. It's

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the flying disc, the solar chariot
in the sky, chariots of the gods.

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Right, this is something that is
psychological, this is something that is

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paranormal. It's beyond the normal.
It's something that's now political, and with

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all of these different isms attached to
it, and all of the different biases

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and groups. People looking for power, people looking for clicks, people looking

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for money, people looking for all
those things, people sincerely looking for the

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truth and being taken advantage of people
looking for power and clicks and money.

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All of that stuff adds up to
create a very very confusing narrative for which

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we do shows like this to hopefully
provide an objective perspective and find a little

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bit more of whatever the so called
truth is that certainly exists. It's just

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a matter of sifting through all of
the nonsense. And there is a lot

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of nonsense, but we can never
forget writer. As we were talking about

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on the phone the other day,
at the core of this, there's still

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a bizarre, abnormal, supernatural type
thing that nobody can explain. I think

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what has happened is the Jeremy Corbell, George Knab, Dave Grash have been

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fooled as well. I think that's
the logical conclusion that you can really come

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to because a lot of times they
seem like genuine people and they're not really

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there to intentionally deceive the public,
but unintentionally like they're being fooled by somebody

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from behind the scenes as well.
And I don't think that they realize to

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how far of an extent that they're
being fooled. And my show that I

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did on Wednesday really just proves that
entire story. I mean, we get

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so many things from the Paul Benowitz
story that is just cemented within UFR and

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lore and mythology of the community.
Alien implants came from Paul Benowitz. Cattle

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mutilations came from Paul Benowitz. The
whole idea in the thought process behind the

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Delude space all came from Paul Benowitz. The idea that the government signed a

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contract with extraterrestrials. Came from Paul
Benowitz, and all of that was missing

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disinformation from the NSSAY and Air Force
special investigators and a lady that they brought

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in to literally fool him into all
this stuff. It basically the intelligence community

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basically put him in contact with this
lady that says that she had a sighting,

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and then Paul Benowitz contacted this gentleman
to come and do a regression on

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her, and then she just starts
making up all this nonsense and all this

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and then Paul Benowitz takes a writes
a senator in the government and saying that

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he knows about all this stuff.
And it's just snowballed from literally from Paul

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Benowitz into all of the cracks and
crevices of these other reporters like John Lear,

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like Bill Cooper, Linda moulten Howe, and them not knowing that it's

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missing disinformation, they're regurgitating it,
and it's gotten so far up to the

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food chain that we're still talking about
the exact same things to this very day

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that we were talking about in the
seventies and in the eighties. I think

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a lot of this problem is with
journalists especially, is that And I'm not

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talking about New York Times journalists necessarily, or ABC, NBC News or whatever.

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I'm just talking about people that do
journalistic type work. And we could

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put Linda Moulton How into that mix. Don't hate Linda moulten How, but

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I think she's a good example.
She's been duped with that alien photo from

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the video game. Remember that story. I played that video game. It's

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from the video game Area fifty one. She was duped by it. I

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don't think she did that intentionally.
I just don't think that she understood that

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she was being duped. I think
she got taken for a ride. She

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obviously refused, if you've seen the
videos people asking her about that, refuse

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to walk back the fact that she
was duped. That makes me question a

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lot of her other research. I've
talked to Linda Moulton How. She's a

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very nice lady. She's I think
she's a very good researcher. But you

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know, everybody who's a good researcher
falls victim to dis or miss info,

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or they misinterpret something or misreport something
that's just totally normal and totally natural.

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What separates a good reporter from a
bad reporter, as a reporter who says

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I got taken for a ride,
I got duped. Let's correct this story.

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So I think this is part of
that's part of the problem in eufology.

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Another thing is, and I've noticed
this over the years when I've attended

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UFO conferences or maybe I've interviewed people
on my show The Secret Teachings, is

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that what happens when people tell similar
stories, regardless of how they came up

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with them. They could have really
thought that they experienced something they might have.

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It could have been related to DMT, it could have been related to

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mushrooms. It could have been related
to something that they hallucinated because they wanted

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to believe it so much. Or
they could have misinterpreted something that happened like,

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well, there's lights in the sky
and you got drunk and you passed

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out, and what would the aliens
abducted you. Anything could be misconstrued or

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it could be interpreted as those kinds
of a narrative you got abducted by aliens

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or whatever the case is. Which
is an old, old thing that relates

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to the mar as in the nightmar
that would sit on your chests sleep paralysis,

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the demon of sleep paralysis, the
incubus, the succubus, the aliens

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having sex with us and taking the
sperm and taking the eggs and having babies,

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and that's all part of the fairy
lore too. So these things are

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within the human psyche. They're within
are collective unconscious. Even if a lot

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of these things that you're talking about, the abductions and the cattle mutilation and

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the implants, are part of the
Paul Benewitz story, they're still in the

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collective unconscious because this is how shamans
experience. They go to the other world,

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they had implants put in them,
they were crucified like Christ. All

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these stories, even theologically speaking,
they all have a relationship with one another.

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So when people start telling these stories
and they hear other people tell these

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stories, they tell their own stories
and you get a bunch of people together.

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Conference is a great example because it's
a very isolated thing. It's not

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the Internet, it's not you know, a documentary that streams everywhere. It's

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an isolated event, and people start
telling the same story. They might actually

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believe it. They're not in tending
to lie to somebody or manipulate somebody for

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money, just average people that pay
lots of money to go to a conference

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and they sit around and tell the
same stories, and it confirms their story

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because other people are like, well, yeah, yeah, I experienced that

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too, and you get into those
conversations. There's no intent to mislead or

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disinform somebody, and the belief system
grows and grows and grows, because when

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you're in those situations, or when
you're in online communities and talking to people,

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or you just listen to one form
of let's say radio or YouTube videos

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and it confirms your bias. You're
hearing people say what you already believe,

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and that's snowballs, and that confirms
what you are. And this is the

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same thing with a lot of the
UFO people that report. Journalists Jeremy Corbell,

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Linda Moltenhowe don't personally have an issue
with them. I'm saying that I

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think these people hear those stories,
they repeat them, and then the narrative

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just continues on. And it's not
necessary that people are trying to deceive one

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another. It's just that we all
have confirmation bias about the subject in the

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same way that skeptics have confirmation bias
they're so certain that there's no such thing

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as the phenomena itself. They'll deny
physical evidence when you have videos and pictures

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of things that maybe people say that's
a UFOs and alien ship obviously not the

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case necessarily, but when skeptics look
at that, they're like, there's nothing

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there. So it's the same kind
of it's within that paradigm, and it's

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the same kind of rejection of reality
where the people that believe won't accept facts

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to the contrary, and the people
that disbelieve won't accept facts to the contrary,

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talking about the same phenomena, and
we will not acknowledge that maybe both

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sides are right and wrong, and
maybe a lot of what we believe,

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whether we're believers or skeptics, because
skepticism is a belief in occult like ideology,

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we just believe it because we're within
our e within our own echo chambers

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of what we want to believe,
what we think is true based on what

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we want to believe, and we
just talk to only people that think the

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same thing. We don't want to
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That's my assessment based on what you're
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I don't even think that it matters
who came up with something first.

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Regardless if it was Paul Benowitz that
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it was regurgitated from something much older, it doesn't really matter because it matters

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who popularized it. It matters who
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Paul Benewitz wasn't even the person that
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people. That was John Mack.
That was Willie Streeber that came after his

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story, So he wasn't even the
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those thoughts and those ideas implanted into
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it came, you know, years
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it, so it wasn't a popular
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cults, like the UFO cls that
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You know, the first UFO cult
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I AM in the thirties the early
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previously already been done, but popularized
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They just ripped off Elena Bravlovski,
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researchers and occult teachers of that time
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and read their books, and then
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of those previous people that had written
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own ideology for their cult. So
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in retrospect now based on what you're
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trying to suggest is, with my
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is that these things are already part
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just with the sun disc, like
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world, even if you live in
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when things become popularized, you're totally
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But they become hyper hyper popularized because
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know, and it's something we can
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and myths. That's all that I'm
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No, I understand. I one
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with people because it's already been there
before. Precisely when people hear it,

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they're like, oh, oh,
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place it, so it must be
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too. Yeah, they got the
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hovering above my house. Me too. You see that light behind me on

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this picture. That's a ufhobe trying
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Sunday of raw and he's trying to
get you into the seventh dimension. Take

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take my sperm. So we have
an amazing article that was just written the

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other day, and I'm gonna share
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important and a lot of things that
this gentleman says Sean Kirkpatrick. I know

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I've said in the past, I
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I know a few other people within
the community have also said. So

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it's really interesting getting this high profile
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things that me, you and others
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a really long time. Now name
of the article. It came on January

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nineteenth, twenty twenty four. Here's
what I learned as a US government UFO

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hunter, which he's not really a
hunter, right. A forthcoming investigational report

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from the Office of the Pentagon has
found no evidence of aliens, only allegations

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circulated repeatedly by UFO cleaned advocates,
right, which is what I've been seeing

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for a really long time. So
this is Sean Kirkpatrick. He was the

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director of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution
Office at the Department of Defense. He

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gives a presentation at the public meeting
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Team on May thirty four three.
So I'm gonna skip over this, Karl

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Well, I might as well just
read the Segan Carl Sagan popularize theim maximum

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that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
This advice should not be optional for policy

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makers in today's world of misinformation,
conspiracy driven decision making in sensational domain governance,

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our capacity for rational evidence based on
critical thinking is eroding. Wow.

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What a statement with delirious consequences for
the ability to effectively deal with multiplying challenges

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of ever increasing complexity. As a
director of the Department of Defense All Domain

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Anomaly Resolution Office ERROW, charged by
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science based clarity and resolution to the
long standing mystery surrounding credible observation and of

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unidentified anomalist phenomenon UAP, also known
as UFOs. I experienced this erosion up

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close and personal, and it was
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from my position last December. After
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motivated personnel and working with them to
develop a rational, systematic, and science

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based strategy to investigate these phenomena,
our efforts were ultimately overwhelmed by sensational but

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unsupported claims that ignored contradictory evidence yet
captured the attention of policymakers and the public,

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driving legislative battles and dominating the public
narrative. This is scientific American correct

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this particular article, and I also
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the same publication, but it was
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be clear before you give any more
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I think you'd agree with me.
Writer. I think a lot of listeners

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would agree too, that I don't
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American, etc. But I don't
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promote contrary claims to what's being said
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at an article, whether it's from
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American or from whatever, I'm seeing
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And this article certainly confirms what you've
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have aliens, never said that they
have officially UFOs. They just acknowledge that

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there's some phenomenon and they're not exactly
sure what it is. And this article

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also, although it might itself be
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a very i think, a series
of very obvious statements from what I've read,

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that shows that what we think we
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nothing more than at least in my
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than pr and a waste of money. It's not disclosure, it's another d

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It's a diversionary tactic, probably away
from something that actually matters. What that

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is, I don't know, that's
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we can bolster that by this other
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don't know if you can even see
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up, but you make it,
make you beggar. Take this off for

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the moment. We'll come back to
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you can see it because it's white. It's kind but the way they have

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my background. But it says UFOs
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and it just it's all about the
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it says Thomas Monheim, the Inspector
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help members of the House Oversight Committee
understand if there was any credibility to the

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bombshell claims made by David Grush.
But what was actually is not very clear.

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They can't tell you really what was
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nothing then, nothing new. It's
nothing then we already had heard. So

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this article by Sean Kirkpatrick is kind
of confirming what you've been saying. This

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article from the New York Times about
the classified briefings behind the declassified information supposedly

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declassified that Grush is giving in classified
testimony behind closed doors is confirming what I've

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been saying. And it's not that
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Times. It's just this is logical. The government does not acknowledge that they

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have aliens or alien spaceships, and
what David Grush has said is nothing more

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than what we already knew. So
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further with that statement. Do you
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with you one hundred percent. And
this is just a confirmation because doctor Sean

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Kirkpatrick is a well respected scientist.
He was the head of Air. He

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was in charge of investigating these wild
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And we're gonna keep reading here because
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result of this whirlwind of fairy tales, this is coming from doctor Sean Kirpatrick.

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He's giving this interview right fabrication and
second hand or third hand retellings of

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the scene was a social media frenzy
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time and energy spent on investigating these
so called claims. As if we didn't

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have anything better to do. Now. This is something that I have called

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out from the very beginning whenever David
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Congress and started talking about all of
the these fantastical claims and all these fantastical

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stories that he Fuck, dude,
I'm I'm my throat is seriously just what

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happened to me that that Miami Mall
Alien show we did. I had that

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coffee fit. Yeah, I was
fine all morning until we got on the

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show. That's what I said about
David Gresh from the very beginning, whenever

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he came up and got in front
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it himself in the congressional testimony that
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All this stuff is stories that he's
been told. And Sean ker Patrick is

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telling you right now that this is
a whirlwind of fairy tales. It's fabrications.

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It's from a second hand source to
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hand source and call it thrift shopping. Yeah, And it's like that SpongeBob

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thing that you we played on your
show and a once new a guy,

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the new guy, the new guy, the new guy, the new guy,

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the new guy, a new guy, and cousin. Okay, So

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the conspiracy story goes something like this, and this comes from this is like

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a very well known story that has
been regurgitated for decades now. The US

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has been hiding and attempting to reverse
engineer as many as twelve UAPs slash UFOs

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from as early as in the nineteen
sixties and perhaps earlier. This great cover

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up and conspiracy failed to prove any
saling results, and consequently the effort was

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abandoned to private sector defense contractors to
continue the work. Sometime later, the

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story continues, those private sector contractors
wanted to bring the whole program back under

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the United States government. Apparently the
CIA stopped this supposed transfer back to the

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US. All this was without sustaining
substantiating evidence, but alas belief in the

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statement is directly proportional to the volume
in which it has transmitted, in the

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number of times it is repeated,
not the actual facts. So this is

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the story that Dave Grush gets up
there and tells Congress. He gets up

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there and he's like, listen,
the government has these craft that they can't

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they couldn't figure out how it worked. They couldn't do which is a complete

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and utter lie. They have figured
out how it's worked. Now if they

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can actually put somebody inside of that
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because we're going to get into a
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about that this stuff is just drones, it's not manned craft. Now,

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they might not have figured out how
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yet, but they've done when he
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they were working on these experimental technologies
back in nineteen seventy nine. When Paul

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Beininwitz was seeing the craft at the
Air Force space at Kirkland Air Force Space,

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he was seeing classified government advanced technology
programs. So we know that they

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have them, and this is an
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Now, I'm not saying that maybe
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contractors. It might have, and
then they developed it so that the government

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wouldn't have to take responsibility of it. But so, during a full scale,

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year long investigation of the story which
has been told and retold by a

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small group of people, interconnected believers
and others with possibly less than honest intention,

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none of whom have first hand accounts
of any of this aero discovered a

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few things and none were about aliens. That is a incredible statement that Sean

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ka Patrick just made there. Right, the story has been told and retold

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by a small group of interconnected believers
that is so accurate, go ahead,

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and then regurgitated and then told to
other people, and then other people believe

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it. And none of them know
any of this stuff firsthand. It goes

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back to stories. It's just stories, made up stories. How does the

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euthhological community deal with this is by
saying it's all a cover up. It's

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a lie. They're hiding it.
Yep, just like they've been saying for

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decades now. So first, no
records exist of any president or living DoD

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or intelligence community leader knowing about this
alleged program, nor any congressional committee having

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such knowledge. This should be fuck
dude, this is whack. This should

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speak volumes. If this case,
we're following a typical procedure, because it

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is inconceivable that a program of such
import would not ever have been briefed to

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the fifty or one hundred people at
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of its existence. That's a really
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only way that people weren't briefed again
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like Raytheon bigge Lower Aerospace subcontractors for
the government like that. That's the only

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way that if anything like this actually
exists space Sean ka Patrick is saying that

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he has seen no evidence for second. This narrative has been simmering for years

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and is largely an overgrowth of a
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called Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program a
TIP, which was heavily influenced by a

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group of individuals associated with businessmen a
long time ufologist Robert Bigelow, founder of

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Bigelow Aerospace. In two thousand and
nine, then Senator Harry Reid asked the

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Secretary of Defense to set up a
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UFO and UAP material at the ATIP. Proponents believe that the USG was hiding

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the uh SECT. DEAF declined to
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office by the Undersecretary of Defense for
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did no such material exist, but
tax payer money was being inappropriately spent on

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paranormal research. A skinwalker ranch in
Utah. This is well documented in open

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sources, particularly in the records available
the DIA's electronic FOIA reading room. After

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the negative response by SECTA, Senator
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Lieberman to request that the Department of
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the same purposes. The administrative SAP
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who were associated with a tip.
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for DHS SAP, complete with participants, which has been declassified and is being

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reviewed for public release. So it's
basically, these same people are just being

403
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tossed around all of these programs,
and they're just saying the same thing over

404
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and over again, in the same
way that the euphological community has been saying

405
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the same thing over and over again, Which doesn't in ness necessarily mean that

406
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it's not true. It's just the
same story, the same narrative, the

407
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.280
same motifs, over and over and
over and over again, to the point

408
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where if I were to say,
and I think this goes back to what

409
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I was referring to earlier when I
was trying to make a point, long

410
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:21.199
winded point is that if I come
forward, you know, if you didn't

411
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know who I was, right,
and I came forward and said, hey,

412
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I have this abduction story, and
you say, oh, this great.

413
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.559
You can come to my show and
talk about it, or go on

414
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whatever show and talk about it,
and I tell you I was abducted.

415
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I had missing time. They put
an implant in me. They showed me

416
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a star map, a beautiful Nordic
woman who wanted to have sex with me.

417
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If I just went down, I
could I know the narrative so I

418
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could go down the list. And
simply because I'm checking off all the boxes

419
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the implant, the abduction, the
sex, the whatever with the aliens,

420
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star map, missing time, most
people would believe it because it confirms the

421
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stories that they've already heard a thousand
times. So it looks like within the

422
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government circles where they're taking this kind
of seriously, it's the same group of

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people that are telling the same narratives
in the same way. Within eufology,

424
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it's the same group of people that
are telling the same narratives, and we're

425
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not getting anywhere exactly. And this
next section confirms that. So finally,

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the key proprietors of this narrative have
known one another for decades. In the

427
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early two thousand and several members of
this small group also participated in this study

428
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erroneously characterized by the same participants as
having been sponsored by the White House on

429
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the possible societal impact of disclosing the
existence of extraterrestrials to the public, which

430
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sounds a lot like the Brookings Institute
document that came out some years ago.

431
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I think there was in the sixties
or something like that, or seventies or

432
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I don't have to look it up, but talked about the societal impact of

433
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revealing the existence of extraterrestrials and how
everything would collapse and that religion would collapse

434
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:16.840
and there would be anarchy in the
streets and everyone would be pissed off.

435
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But if extraterrestrials exist and the government
were to disclose it, I really don't

436
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think anyone would care because it's been
circulated within the community for such a long

437
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time and people already believe it.
So what would that actually do. It

438
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wouldn't do anything in the way that
the news cycles work. There's just going

439
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.599
to be something else the next day
that it's not even going to matter,

440
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:52.760
Like we could literally do a press
conference right now at the White House mumbling

441
00:38:54.599 --> 00:39:02.119
Joe Biden can get up there and
tell the the United States that extraterrestrials are

442
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real and no one would care.
Dude, Well this is I've not thought

443
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.440
much about that, but that's kind
of I think that's a good point.

444
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.599
It's kind of a good starting point
for a whole other show. It's kind

445
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of like these. I mean,
I have so many fileboxes. Writer.

446
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.079
I've done this for fourteen years and
I've done it professionally for about eight and

447
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.360
I collect files and shows I do
so if I talk about something, I

448
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:34.559
usually have a file on it.
I mean government documents, news articles,

449
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.199
whatever, scientific studies, medical studies, et cetera. And I go back,

450
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Like when I moved recently, I
go back and I was looking through

451
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.519
all these papers, may to me
hours out which make a whole day to

452
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.360
look through all these papers and throwing
out some things I'd think I didn't want,

453
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and I found some duplicates. I'm
sharing this with you because when I

454
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was going through that, I found
crazy stories about things that were just and

455
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:01.400
still are profound, like things that
should still be on the front page of

456
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:05.280
newspapers right now, and they were
from like six, seven, eight,

457
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.960
nine, ten, eleven, twelve
years ago. I'll give you an example.

458
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There was a story that just came
out from the University of Cambridge.

459
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It's gotten virtually no media attention.
A couple of science websites published it and

460
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:27.519
is an official acknowledgment and confirmation University
of Cambridge and the max Plaq Institute pretty

461
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:34.199
prestigious, and they're saying that the
interaction of water and air is something that

462
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they're still learning about. And they
said that they found a new state of

463
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water, which is interesting because there
are actually books written about other stages of

464
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water. I think it's called the
Fourth Stage of Waters, a popular book

465
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on that subject. Well, now
scientists are admitting that, and in the

466
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article and in the study, they're
saying this literally changes not only the environmental

467
00:40:54.679 --> 00:41:00.559
chemical models that we have, which
are all computer simulations, this changes every

468
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:06.039
textbook because now we know water comes
in other forms, and they're talking about

469
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ions and they're talking about sea water. You go and read this thing for

470
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:12.639
yourself. Some of you were probably
more scientifically inclined in minded than I am,

471
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but it shows you that's a profound
discovery. It changes how we look

472
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at elements like water. It's the
same thing with with any other big story

473
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.480
where we discover something. There was
a girl I I can't remember how many

474
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:31.679
years ago. This was a girl
that was on a hiking trip or something

475
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in Canada. She's a scientist and
she bent down, took a soil sample,

476
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:40.639
found a whole new They classified it
as a whole new kingdom of species.

477
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.360
It wasn't plant, animal back to
It was something totally new. And

478
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:51.239
that article just into the into the
Winston trash heap of history. Nobody knows

479
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.719
that. No one's going to remember
this water story. But my point is

480
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:01.599
on point with what you're saying,
is you're tomorrow aliens are real. A

481
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:06.199
couple of weeks, a couple movies, a couple documentaries, and then everybody

482
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.760
knows that and it goes away.
In this case, because we already think

483
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.639
we know that, it probably wouldn't
get much news attention. I mean you

484
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:19.480
could, you could publish that in
the biggest newspapers and magazines. Might last

485
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:22.199
a couple of weeks, it'll be
gone. You know. It's the same

486
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:28.000
with the faking of the moon landing. If the government was to come out

487
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.440
and say, oh, yeah,
we did we did fake that moon landing.

488
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:31.880
It was Stanley Kubrick that did it, no one would care. I'm

489
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.159
not saying that that's the case.
I'm not saying that we that we didn't

490
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:37.239
go to the Moon or anything like
that. I'm just saying that if it

491
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.480
were to come out that we didn't
really go, because people already have that

492
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.679
in their heads that that's true,
it would not matter and no one would

493
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.719
care. Better. So with the
uh, this gets really good here this

494
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:54.480
next paragraph, it's unbelievable and it's
like verbeating what I've been seeing, what

495
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:59.119
you've been seeing and others have been
seeing. So with the authenticity of the

496
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:04.760
above mentioned sealed government program taken at
its baseline assumption, the think Tanking question

497
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.599
was a futures enterprise that often worked
on fringe studies, and many of the

498
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:13.639
individuals involved with the study also worked
for BIGE Low Aerospace and support of the

499
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:22.719
aid TIP program. ARROW thoroughly investigated
these claims as a part of its congressionally

500
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:31.000
mandated mission to not only technically evaluate
contemporary UAP observations, but also review historical

501
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:37.239
accounts going back to the forties.
This is Sean ka Patrick, saying this.

502
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:45.239
One of my last acts before retiring
was to sign Arrow's Historical Record Report,

503
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Volume one, which is currently being
prepared for delivery to Congress and the

504
00:43:51.039 --> 00:44:00.920
public. The report demonstrates that many
of the circulating allegations described above derive from

505
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:09.199
inadvertent or unauthorized disclosures of legitimate US
programs or related R and D that have

506
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:19.960
nothing to do with extraterrestrial issues or
technology. Freaking drop the mic on that

507
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:27.239
one, bro boom. It's interesting
that this is precisely what many UFO researchers

508
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:31.760
or commentators have been saying, that
this is what it is. And yet

509
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.079
at the same time, I know
I can speak for you in this case

510
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:38.159
because you told me this. That
doesn't mean that there isn't a UFO phenomenon

511
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:45.079
that goes back before these programs and
has no relationship to these programs at all.

512
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.480
But there's still something there, and
it's a combination of so many different

513
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:53.360
things. I think people hear this
like I'm putting myself into the place of

514
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.239
a skeptic or a believer, and
I hear what you're saying, and I

515
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.920
read the article. I have a
copy of it here, and I think,

516
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.039
oh, well, they're just being
They're just being coy, they're just

517
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:06.440
being sly, they're just denying the
truth. They just don't want disclosure.

518
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.519
They're the reason we don't have disclosure, all that same standard nonsense. But

519
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:13.760
then, how do we come to
the same conclusion before this overcame out?

520
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.800
How did I come to this conclusion? How did others within the community also

521
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:25.760
come to the same conclusion that it's
not aliens, That it's our advanced programs

522
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:34.079
with advanced aerial technology. Right,
if it's If it's not that, then

523
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:38.440
how did we all come to the
same conclusion that it is. And furthermore,

524
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:44.639
that doesn't mean that there again,
isn't That doesn't mean that you didn't

525
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.639
see a UFO when you were out, you know, in some field in

526
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.920
the middle of the night, somewhere
by yourself, five years ago. It

527
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:53.679
doesn't Matt, It doesn't mean that
that's aliens. But I think a lot

528
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.000
of people hear this like, well, you're saying UFOs aren't realders. I

529
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.199
didn't see anything in the sky.
Of course you did. That's not the

530
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.920
issue. This is all based on
fallacy. I think, writer, just

531
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:08.440
because you saw something doesn't mean that
it's a government craft, an alien craft

532
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:15.199
or superman. It just means you
saw something that's it, and that's completely

533
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:20.760
unrelated to all this UFO stuff in
Congress, completely unrelated as far as I'm

534
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:25.960
concerned anyway. So it goes on
and says some are misrepresentations, some derive

535
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:31.000
from pure unsupported beliefs, of Whichine
is a big factor in the community.

536
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:38.440
In many respects. The narrative is
a textbook example of circular reporting, with

537
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:45.559
each person relaying what they heard,
but the information often ultimately being sourced to

538
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:53.519
the same small group of individuals.
That is exactly what well we've said,

539
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.559
but we've been dealing with for a
very very long time. It's a small

540
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:04.800
group of people within and without eufology
that pushed these narratives. And the government

541
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.800
has a history, officially a history
of sending small groups of people into the

542
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:15.400
UFO community to gather data, collect
intel, and spread this info. And

543
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:22.119
they throw you off track anytime anyone
questions the well do you think that this

544
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:28.239
is a advanced military craft, like
Sean ka Patrick, what was the head

545
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:32.920
of arrow saying? You know,
like they they're like, oh, well,

546
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.800
the government didn't, no way that
they have any of this kind of

547
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.880
technology. But it's it's decades and
light years ahead of of anything that is

548
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:50.920
known to the to the military.
Bullshit, bullshit, That is the biggest

549
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:59.440
misdirection and counter argument fairytale of all
time. Sean ka Patrick is saying,

550
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:05.320
that's literally what all of it was
and all of it is since the forties.

551
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.880
So the Operational Mission Congress had a
science arrow is important. Accumulating observations

552
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:17.239
by highly trained US military and other
credible personnel of unidentified and omallest phenomenon at

553
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.639
or near sensitive national security areas of
activities call for a serious effort to understand

554
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:29.039
what's going on. Simply put,
unidentified is unacceptable, particularly in the turn

555
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:32.880
times of heightened geopolitical tension. Part
of the problem we face the day,

556
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:39.519
however, is a modern cycle.
Media cycle drives stories faster than sound research.

557
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:46.039
Wow, what an important statement that
he just mean science and pure review

558
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:52.639
timelines can validate them. More worrisome
is that the willingness of some to make

559
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:59.920
the judgments and take actions on these
stories without having seen or even requested supporting

560
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:06.719
evidence and a mission That is all
more problematic when the claims are so extraordinary.

561
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:08.960
Dude, he is knocking this out
of the park. Dude. This

562
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:12.760
sounds like you wrote it or I
wrote it. It does, dude.

563
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:16.400
This is something that I would like
if I were the professionally write something down

564
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.440
and take my time with it.
This is something that I would probably write.

565
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:30.920
Some members of Congress prefer dang,
dude, my throat, bro is

566
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:36.440
just like you're dying all freaking scratchy. Dude. They're hitting us with some

567
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.320
deep directed energy weapons when we do
these shows. Because that happened to my

568
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:43.599
throat last one of the last shows
we did. So Congress prefer to op

569
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:47.079
in about aliens to the press rather
than to get evidence based briefing on the

570
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:52.920
matter. Members have a responsibility to
exhibit critical thinking skills instead of seeking the

571
00:49:52.960 --> 00:50:00.360
spotlight. Another incredible statement there.
As of the time of my depart archer,

572
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.519
none, let me repeat, none
of the conspiracy minded whistleblowers in the

573
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:10.119
public eye had elected to come to
Arrow to provide their evidence and statement for

574
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:17.679
the record, despite numerous invitations.
Why did David Grush, this supposed government

575
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.119
whistle blower that has all this information
not go to Arrow, not go to

576
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:28.440
doctor Sharon kerk Patrick to give him
his statement that just is mind blowing to

577
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:32.800
me. And then none of them, none of them did. And then

578
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.440
on top of that, as he
said during the hearing multiple times, he's

579
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.480
going to tell you this in private. He's like the Jensaki of UFO whistleblowers,

580
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.119
because he's saying, I'll circle back
to you, I'll circle back to

581
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:46.199
you, I'll circle back to He'll
circle back to you. And then when

582
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:51.719
he finally circles back around, we
hear from Thomas Monheim, the Inspector General

583
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.960
of the Intelligence Community, nothing new
is said. The same thing was said.

584
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.000
And then people are gonna they're gonna
look at these stories and say,

585
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:05.800
well, it's not exactly clear what
was said because it's confidential, so maybe

586
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:09.760
he did actually say something really important. They're just pulling at threads and the

587
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:15.719
whole thing is unraveling. The UFO
community is its own worst enemy. Anyone

588
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:22.840
that would rather be sensationalists in the
public eye than bring their evidence to one

589
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:30.159
organization established in law, with all
of the legal process and security framework established

590
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:38.039
to protect them their privacy and the
information and to investigate and report out findings,

591
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:47.320
is suspect. They've made a spectacle
of this. This is an insult

592
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.559
to legitimate as far as I'm concerned, euphological research. And while they hold

593
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:59.559
David Grush and these people up to
be these upstanding whistleblowers and citizens, and

594
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:01.400
he might be a great guy you
could have a drink with, who knows.

595
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:06.000
It doesn't mean that what is being
said is true. It doesn't mean

596
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.519
that what he's saying is a lie. He might actually believe it. He

597
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:12.840
might have been showing things, or
showing documents or something and really convinced of

598
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.119
the of the narrative. We don't
know any of that. What we do

599
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:20.960
know is this, And I think
I said this on my show The Secret

600
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:25.440
Teachings when David Grush first came out, and I remember I think Clyde and

601
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:30.199
I had talked about this on ground
zero as on top of that, that

602
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.239
this is going to destroy ufology.
This is going to destroy the little bit

603
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:38.800
of credibility that it's taking seventy plus
years to acquire. Because when it come,

604
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:43.599
when this comes out, which it
is, here's the papers, as

605
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you read it, it starts coming
out that this is all that it is,

606
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:50.239
no one's going to ever trust a
eufologist again, if that's even the

607
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.519
proper term No one's ever going to
trust someone talking about UFOs again, because

608
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.239
it's all going to be it's just
totally made up. It's all news cycle,

609
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.960
it's all just what Yeah, shan
Ka Patrick's right, it's nonsense.

610
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.880
This is going to destroy ufology.
The Corey Good David Wilcock nonsense. Those

611
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.440
guys should be giving all the money
back and giving their houses up to the

612
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:12.119
people that were ripped off, and
all the other scumbags that worked with them,

613
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:14.920
all of them, every one of
them. Nobody gets a pass.

614
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.639
All those scumbags that sold those bullshit
fake stories, all of them. Give

615
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.920
the money back. All those people, Some of them need to be in

616
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.920
jail as far as I'm concerned.
That's for courts to decide though. But

617
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:29.599
those people, and this David Grush
guy and all the people that circle around

618
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:34.119
him like flies on you know what, all these people are responsible for the

619
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.800
downfall of the legitimacy of what has
been obtained in the UFO community. Well,

620
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:45.199
the only reason Ryan that you wouldn't
go to Errow and give your testimony

621
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:52.440
to doctor Sean Kirkpatrick is if you're
making shut up or if you don't have

622
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:57.599
of it supporting evidence exactly. That's
the only reason that you wouldn't do it,

623
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:01.559
So you go make a spectacle before
Congress. Exactly, That's exactly what

624
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:07.440
happened. And I'm going to finish
yourself. We only got one paragraph left.

625
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:12.159
Hopefully I can make it through it. I can assure you, as

626
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:20.599
its former director, that ARROW is
unwaiverlely committed to harnessing science and technology to

627
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:24.719
bring an unprecedented clarity to these fascinating, important and stubborn mysteries, and to

628
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:31.360
do so with maximum transparency. Its
talented staff and team of supported scientists are

629
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at this very moment striving in collaboration
with armed forces, intelligence community, government

630
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.840
agency, national laboratory, scientific community, academic community, and soon the general

631
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:49.639
republic, to collect analysis, hard, measurable data, extraordinary evidence in this

632
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:58.480
here four eyewitness rich by data poor
field. The ARROW team will go wherever

633
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:01.360
the data takes it without fail and
will not be swayed by the attempts to

634
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:06.599
influence his findings. Otherwise, science
cannot be left on the side of the

635
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:13.559
road in a mad dash to uncover
some great conspiracy. Carl Sagan would expect

636
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:17.039
no laws, and neither should the
American people. Let me add to that

637
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.920
as a as an appendix. New
York Times. This was over a week

638
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.840
and a half ago. This is
what I was talking about with Thomas Monheim,

639
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:31.559
these behind the doors classified things that
Grush told lawmakers. It says some

640
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:38.639
lawmakers saw tantalizing hints in mister Monheim's
presentation that there might have been something to

641
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:44.639
mister Grush's claims end quote. While
the rules of a classified briefing barred them

642
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:50.559
from actually repeating what they had heard, they suggested suggested the Inspector General had

643
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:52.960
found some of the claims credible,
which ones no one would say. So

644
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:57.400
let's get that straight. When you
read articles and you read stories like this,

645
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:07.880
might have been something and suggested and
found some claims credible just because those

646
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.840
claims are credible, and we don't
know which claims they were. It could

647
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:15.079
have been the claim that he said, there's a sophisticated this info campaign.

648
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.079
That could have been the claim because
he did say that, because that's very

649
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:22.679
very true. That's accurate. But
some claims credible. That's what people latch

650
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.159
onto right there. I guarantee you
that's that's the line right there. They

651
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:30.239
did find some claims credible. Okay, But does that mean that they're true.

652
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.199
You can find all kinds of things
credible people thought David Wilcock was credible.

653
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:42.639
That doesn't mean that they're true.
So anyway, that's that's my addition

654
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:46.599
to what you're saying. Absolutely,
and anybody that wants to read that article,

655
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:51.000
I'll leave the link to the article
in the description. It is.

656
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:59.480
Uh. It's kind of like that
that humdinger that I have personally been looking

657
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:05.440
for and I know others have also
been looking for as well, and coming

658
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:13.719
from a very reputable scientist that was
head of the government's aero program to investigate

659
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:21.599
UFOs and UAPs, And really quickly
before we wrap up, I have a

660
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:30.639
clip from a doctor Sean Kapatrick talking
about what some of these UFOs are unidentified

661
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:37.519
f line objects UAPs actually are number
of people pilots who you know, have

662
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.880
said, Hey, I saw this
giant sphere. It had a cube in

663
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.320
it. I don't understand it.
It must be an alien. Well,

664
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:52.599
actually know the next generation of drones
that are being built are spherical drones,

665
00:57:52.679 --> 00:58:00.320
and one of them is they've taken
about a two meter size inflatable and put

666
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:06.480
a cube inside of it and everywhere
the corner of the cube touches the sphere.

667
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:10.159
They fused it, cut it out, and put little thrusters in.

668
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:17.400
With eight thrusters in a cube configuration, I can maneuver this drone around very

669
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:23.119
accurately. And they've tried these all
over the place. There you go,

670
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:30.719
s drones. Many of the modern
day sightings probably are drones. And the

671
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:32.559
more and more drones we use in
the more and more market, like the

672
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:36.880
ones that are on the market for
the average person to buy, the more

673
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:42.039
and more pieces of evidence that people
are going to have of UFOs. Again,

674
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.280
that's different than all the old sightings. That's different than things way before

675
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:47.920
there were planes, and that's different
than you know, whatever those things were.

676
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.840
Those those things are different than aliens. It's all just a matter of

677
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:58.800
definition. It's a big old circle
circular logic with how we argue and debate

678
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.280
these things. The bottom line is
that that was a really good article that

679
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:05.199
you read, and I think the
bottom line is to keep an open mind

680
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.800
and if you want there to be
any credibility left within the UFO field or

681
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:15.320
whatever you want to call it,
stop believing everything you hear and everything you

682
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:21.400
see. Yeah, and watch my
videos on going back to all these freaking

683
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:24.599
old people and all their made up
bullshit nonsense, I might get us further

684
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:29.440
than listening to these wack tards.
All right, Ryan, thanks so much

685
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:31.360
for coming on speaking with you.
Well, I really appreciate your time.

686
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:35.320
Can you let people know where to
find you? Yeah, you're welcome,

687
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:39.440
and I'm on The Secret Teachings Monday
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688
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689
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690
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691
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692
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:59.480
website. For those of you who
don't know what my books are, got

693
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.000
a bunch of One of them has
a section on UFOs and raj men.

694
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:06.559
It's called The Technological Elixir. But
you can check all those books out on

695
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:07.880
the website. Last, but not
least, if you want to contact me,

696
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:12.719
you neither get to hold a rider, leave a comment or email me

697
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:16.760
at urd Gable at yahoo dot com. Thank you, Rid Yeah, and

698
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:22.639
I'm sorry guys for my uh my
cough. The twelfth dimensional reptilians. HOI

699
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:27.400
you buy the throat? Those are
a bitch. They were choking me out,

700
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:30.119
so I could those are them all
reptilians right, because that's those are

701
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:32.360
the ones that got me last time. Yeah, I'm gonna remote view it

702
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:37.159
later to figure out exactly who it
was. And uh, I'll let you

703
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:42.400
guys know on the on the next
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704
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.599
We should, we should, we
should do a remote view show because

705
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:52.000
that is a crazy, crazy story
about a whacked out woman remote viewing,

706
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:55.000
dude, can't remove you something that
you already know the target for? Well?

707
01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:00.800
Uh uh. All the links to
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