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The Paranormal Project Radio Show. Carry
your hosts, Scott Allen and Christina Bowen.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to
the Paranormal Project Radio Show. This

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is the very first show of February
and we have been on hiatus for a

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few weeks. I'm alone tonight.
Christina is not feeling too well, so

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she's taking the night off. I
hope she'll be back with us next week.

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But we spent some time away.
We were in San Antonio, Texas.

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Excuse me for the lone Star para
con, and boy, I have

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to tell you we had a great
time. From the river walk and the

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VIP experience, it was truly truly
a fantastic, fantastic experience. We got

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to stay in this mansion in San
Antonio. It was called the Beauregard Mansion

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and I got there before anyone else. Now, this room, this building

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is massive. It's three levels and
I think there's like seven bedrooms in the

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place. But I got in and
the first thing I thought was, man,

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it smells like an old haunted house. But funny thing was, as

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it turns out, I slept on
the first floor and it was very quiet

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for me. Christina came in,
got into her bedroom, which was in

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the front of the house. It's
where she decided she wanted to sleep and

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heard what she thought was a gunshot, and she called Barry Kling because she

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said, I just heard a gunshot. Are we are we okay here?

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He said, well, you know, it's San Antonio, so who knows.

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But it seemed to be coming from
inside the house. And then she

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heard a woman crying, sobbing.
She could hear that in the other room.

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For the most part, it was
pretty quiet until Sunday. We were

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sitting around and there was a stack
of Starbucks cups on the kitchen counter and

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they just flew off and landed all
over the floor, and I thought,

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well, that's different. And then
the voices started coming and we could hear

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people calling names, and it ended
up being an eventful, eventful final night

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in the mansion. So if you
are ever looking to stay in a haunted

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house, you can reach out to
the Kling brothers who put on the lone

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Star para con in San Antonio and
tell them you want to rent the mansion.

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Yeah, so Christina is actually here
watching. She just popped in the

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chat. She said, we saw
that from the couch in the parlor,

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and I do remember that I was
sitting I was sitting on the couch itself,

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trying to show this there we go. I was sitting on the couch

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myself and I saw the cops go
flying. That's when something grabbed my leg

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too. I felt something grabbed my
foot. So if you ever want to

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stay, you can reach out to
the Kling Brothers because I know that they

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have the contacts and they can arrange
to get you in there. But it

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really truly was and I am now
officially booked for twenty twenty five. I

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will be back there again, and
that's going to be March of twenty twenty

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five Lone Star Paracon in San Antonio. So if any of you are from

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Texas or want to take the trip, it is well worth the experience.

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We had a wonderful time. I
also want to talk about just a brief

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minute before we bring our guests out. I met our guests in San Antonio

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at the para con. They came
and Ryan, who's with us tonight,

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came and introduced himself and said they
had a TV show and they wanted to

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talk about it, and we just
happened to have an opening this week,

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which was miraculous. We had a
guest that had to move her appearance on

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the show, so I said,
come on down, we'd love to chat

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with all of you. While I
was there, I launched Sense of Fear.

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We launched our scented candles. We
have a line of right now,

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there's sixteen, and there's a bunch
of others in production. But if you

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like scented candles, these are paranormally
themed candles, but they're not spooky.

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So this one here is called let
Me Be Frank, and it's frightening citrus

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berry and monster musk. We did
not have when we were there. This

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is one of the ones we did
not bring with us, so that's one

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of the new ones. But I
also have a couple here to show you

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that were two of the ones that
sold out when we were there, which

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was amazing. This one is called
Phantom Fire, so it is like the

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Gettysburg battlefield and it smells like battlefield
grass and coast ghostly cannons, and it's

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kind of that nice fresh battlefield smell, I guess. And this one here,

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which honestly, the things that I
thought weren't going to sell, sold

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like crazy. This one is called
serial Killer. It's cereal, like your

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breakfast cereal. And you can see
it like there it is maybe I don't

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know if you can see it.
Oh no you can't because the green screens

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pick it up. Looks like fruit
loops, smells like fruit loops. It's

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like your breakfast. So there's a
whole bunch. If you go to Sense

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of Fear dot com and that's sce
Nts of Fear, and you'll see the

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whole bunch of them, and and
people seem to really be enjoying them.

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So I want to let people know. But that's not what our show is

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about. I've talked enough. I
really want to bring our guests out,

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Chanelle, can you bring everybody out
onto the screen so we can have a

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chat? Here we go, here
they come, Hi, guys, Hi.

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So who do we have here?
We have Gypsy, Ryan, Melissa,

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Josh, Katie and Colleen. Thanks
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thanks for having us. Yeah no, this is really great And I'm glad

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Ryan that you came and introduced yourself
at my booth in Texas. You're I

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mean the first thing I smelled your
candles in of course they're amazing. Thank

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you. Yeah, right, oh, I appreciate it. It was nice.

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And then you know, and then
Colleen came around. How did you

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come up with the idea for your
show? Well, I guess it's all

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starts with me and Gypsy. We
were she was doing a signing at a

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local haunted house and we started talking
and next thing I know, you know,

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she's like, if you put this
show together, Wolf, make a

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TV show. And that's basically what
has happened. So we've just it's just

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progressed over the last year and a
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all started. And we just slowly
just you know, kind of snowball effect

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and yeah, and now we have
an actual TV show. So that's awesome.

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And you're just like at the point
of launching it right so you don't

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have any full seasons out or anything
yet, you're just at the beginning.

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Josh, do you want to kind
of explain that what we're doing right now?

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We are. I've actually done a
sneak peek of the paranorl investigations that

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was played at the Expo this past
weekend. I've also got a couple of

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trailers out that we hope to air
sometime soon before the first episode. But

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really right now, it's just a
process of again everything added down to an

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entire story. And we just got
done with the what they call the healium

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plant in Fort Worth, which is
also a hot house itself, but it

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was the very first helium plant,
uh in the in the United States and

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the world, and it was where
everyone, all these Zeppelins would come in

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and you know, air up there
their things and that's uh. It also

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became a hospital, became a military
base. There's so many stories behind it,

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and our objective right now is just
just get a story that not only

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connects with the paranormal but connects with
any findings that Gypsy has doing metal detect

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and so a lot of business not
just about the investigations, but it's also

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about the history and the findings and
hopefully relics that we can uh, you

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know, we can research while the
episode's going on. So it's it's an

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amazing concept from start to begin from
start to finish. And when I was

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brought in, I did not know
it was going to be a metal detecting

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show. It was actually ruttle right
after a couple a couple of weeks after

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I met Ryan uh personally that that
it became Metal Detected, and I thought

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that was even that was even better
than we could ever expect. And it's

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been a wonder wonderful experience for not
just me before the entire cast and crew.

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Wow. Yeah, it's I'm doing
gypsy you you you you do that?

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I mean that was your that's been
your thing, right, that isn't

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new? Yeah. So I've been
metal detecting now for twenty five years,

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but lifelong treasure hunter, but the
metal detecting part for twenty five years.

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And just a little bit about me
is I just launched my first book.

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In fact, I had them at
the Pair con there. Sorry, my

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first book. It's a Beginner's Guide
to Metal Detecting. And I'm sponsored by

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Garrett Metal Detectors. And I've done
some TV work on the Discovery Channel as

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well as the History Channel. And
you know what I do a lot always

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connects with history. And what's more
important about that and how it connects,

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you know, with the paranormal side, is everything holds energy, you know,

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everything, And the fascinating part about
that is is how the history and

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these objects that I dig up have
energy that connects. And that's what hopefully

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that what I will be able to
bring you know, that hasn't been seen

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before really on TV, not to
this what's pinnacle or you know, not

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to this type of what I'm trying
to think of the word, but you

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get my draft to a yeah extent. So when Ryan and I first initially

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met where Katie works, and I
met Katie that night too, where this

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whole idea was birthed. I was
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paranormal show to do the metal detecting. It was someone that saw my YouTube

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channel and was really into metal detecting
and wanted to connect that. So that

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kind of gave us the idea,
or gave me the idea hey, you

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know. And so when I met
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he was just like, wow,
you know this that that would be a

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great idea. You really think you
want to do something like that? And

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I was like yeah. And then
so he called me up a few weeks

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later and said, Hey, if
you're really serious about doing a show,

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well let's do it. And you
know, having that experience of already working

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on other TV shows and that sort
of thing and knowing what goes into the

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work, you know, it kind
of helps to know what to do for

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for what we're for our project.
And I'm really excited. It's really come

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a long way from the very beginning, you know, when I first met

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the team with you know, Josh
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and then now we've added Colleen,
which what I love about that is she's

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a psychic and she's going to be
able to you know, touch these objects

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and hopefully get readings from some of
these objects and being able to connect you

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know, these objects to the history
of the property. It's just going to

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you know, blow your mind when
once that starts happening. That sounds great.

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So so what how does the show
work? You know, you start

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out of you start out the episode
and where are you I mean, how

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do you go from ghost to So
basically it'll start out with a history brief,

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you know, about the history of
the property. Because all of these

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properties, you know, why are
they being haunted or why is there this

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paranormal activity. Well that's why we
bring in this whole team of investigators,

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and everybody has their own unique way
that they can add to and investigate with

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their own experiences and their own unique
ways to you know, get to the

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bottom of these paranormal you know,
incidences. And then so basically, you

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know, introduce you to the history
of the property, which is very important

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to know where you're at, what
you're doing. And then uh, that's

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where I come in and metal detect
and find these objects and then I will

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bring them to the team to hopefully
con to maybe even find an object that's

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connected to someone that lived at that
property or I've found objects in the past,

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you know that actually have names on
them that were personal items. So

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to be able to connect something like
that to a place you're investigating, is

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it's just so unique and so cool. And then they'll be able to,

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like Colleen and the whole team will
be able to take it in there,

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these objects and say, oh,
well we know that so and so lived

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in this room, this is where
their bedroom was. Well, let's bring

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this object in here and use it
maybe as a trigger object to you know,

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hopefully get some some readings or some
unique response. That's great. And

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then Katie, what what do you
what is your job? Well, as

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a part of this project, I'm
a paranormal investment gator. But as Dupu

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was and Ryan was saying, they
met me through Payman's House of Horrors,

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that is the haunted house located at
the Helium Plant, and working at that

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location and knowing nothing about paranormal investigating, I learned the very in person way

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that what happens when you're in a
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experiences. So yeah, so wait, it's like a Halloween haunted house,

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not a not a haunted location.
It's like it's a haunted location. It

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has a Halloween haunted house in it, but we didn't know it all that

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haunted. When we moved into that
property. We're like, this is an

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amazing, really cool property. Let's
put a haunted house there. And over

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time we're like, okay, all
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It's very active here. Oh cool, Yeah, you don't need all the

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Hollywood stuff. I mean, please, everybody sube for everyone? Yeah yeah,

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right, are you sorry? I
thought you're gonna say something wrong?

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Are you? Are you like the
paranormal side, right, you're the paranormal

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paranormal Uh yeah, yeah, I'm
paranormal investigator and kind of came up with

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this whole Me and Gypsy came up
with this whole concept. I mean like

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all the locations we've done in the
or whatever. Probably I would definitely say

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Healing Plan is by far the most
active that we've done. I mean,

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I've never some of the stuff that's
happened is just insane. Do you,

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Melissa, want to kind of tell
them of your stories that happened when we

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were there and doing them filming.
While we were filming, and we were

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in the smith and they had men
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questions, and I have earphones on, having some guy standing over me,

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and I heard through the radio,
I sound like gun shots at first,

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and then I heard necklace. So
I repeated, well, I think we

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lost their audio. Yeah, Melissa, I think we I think we lost

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you. So I'm going to ask, are you the rest of you familiar

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with the story that she's telling or
I'm not. As she was hearing something

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about a necklace, I was about
two rooms away in the building, and

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I started to feel like I just
nauseous. She couldn't breathe, whatnot,

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I don't know, pass out,
throw up. I didn't know what was

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going to happen, and the area
around the necklace that I'm wearing it right

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now. I felt like I was
being strangled by like but like something,

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not by not by the chain,
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a hand. And I play with
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like nervous, and so I had
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went from there. And all I
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and I was panicking. And then
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experiencing, and so she was in
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panicked together, even though we weren't
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was really really overwhelming that that entity
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Wow. So and then Colleen comes
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around the location and the objects.
Have you ever not gotten an object?

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Have you ever gone and been like, well, there's nothing here connected to

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this building? Or very very rarely, because energy doesn't just disappear when somebody

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passes away, you know what I
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spent most of their time, where
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had a traumatic experience, or it
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people like to think it is.
It's very I wouldn't say very rare to

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come across a building location that doesn't
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it's it's insane. Do you find
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Absolutely? I know nothing about where
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the building name, and that's it. When she actually goes in before she

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just not because she doesn't know anything. It's because she tells us, Hey,

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I don't want to know anything what's
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pretty much want to be surprised and
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her any of the history. We
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a location. I want to go
an absolutely blind, knowing nothing. Now,

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no gypsy, I think when I
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I guess I could have asked you
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get anything connected with the building when
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really depends on the property and how
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because some of the places it's hard
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where they've got it all seemented in
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you know a lot of those objects
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be choosy on what places we investigate. That way, I've got an area

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to metal detect and sometimes that can
be a little difficult at times, and

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sometimes you might not find exactly what
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is is as you know, as
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as well. Even if I don't
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the history, I can also research
and bring some history, maybe shed some

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light on some of the history or
what's going on by some of the things

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that I dig up, you know, maybe through research as well. So

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it's kind of digging, digging history
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that's why I love this is the
history too and how it can connect with

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the paranormal. I bet I'll just
tell you you know that on that I've

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never done metal detecting in my life, but I had. I used to.

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I don't know if I told you. I tell people on the show

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all the time. I used to
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three funeral homes at one time.
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years. And we built a brand
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when they were doing site work,
found a foundation and the foundation was connected

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to this old mansion that had been
there like one hundred years earlier. It

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had burned down. Wow, that
was I mean, it was completely wooded

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and overgrown. But we found druggist
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all kinds of things connected to the
people that live in that house. Put

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them in a box, threw them
in the garage, and man, did

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the haunting start. I mean that
that's a perfect example exactly. You know,

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years and everything. It's very common
for a lot of metal detectorists that

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do what I do. That actually
since so I have a YouTube channel and

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a lot of times, you know, we're digging these historical objects where like

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I said earlier, there's energy attached. You know, who was the last

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person that held that, who was
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did that you know end up there? And like you said, some of

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these properties, it's amazing what you're
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metal object. Because I do a
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or you know, all of these
old homes like they back then, they

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didn't have trash service, So I
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if anyone knows what a privy is. Back in the day, it was

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a toilet. You know, they
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well. You know, they'd be
there reading their newspaper or whatever. You

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know, they didn't quite have toilet
paper like either, so you know they'd

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drop all kinds of things in you
know there. But it's cool, you

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know, because I find bottles while
I'm digging. I mean the metal detector

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may not may not pick it up, but you'll be surprised the non metal

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objects that I find, like marbles
and old bottles and things, and some

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of an old doll. You know, doll is one thing that's really creepy.

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Like yesterday, I just found a
doll arm from an old you know,

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ceramic doll just to surface. Fine, but that's what's really cool,

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and that could be an object that
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So I love my first thought when
you told me that about that funeral

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home and then digging that up.
I love to detect and sift those old

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piles when they're doing this construction and
building parking lots and stuff like that,

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because then it's probably going to be
buried for another hundred years if you don't

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get that opportunity to do that,
grab it, right. So you're based

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out of Fort Worth? Is that
is that we're based out of the Fort

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Worth area? Yeah? Yeah,
we're based out of dft W Fort Worth.

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Yeah, okay, And and your
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that you're going to are pretty much
located in and around that area or how

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like all the places, all the
locations we've done is most in Texas,

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East Texas, North Texas, in
South Texas. So I mean that's basically

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we're we're trying to explore the state
of Texas right now, and there's so

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much history here as people don't even
realize it, you know, how we

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can apply this metal detecting with haunted
locations and all that suff This is the

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first time a show's ever been done
like this. Yeah. And I think

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as we grow and you know,
once the season's you know after, I

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think it'll grow from Texas as well, because just like at the par Con,

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I don't know if you heard it, Scott. But remember the lady

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from the UK that was one of
the guest speakers. I can't remember her

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name, but she was giving her
talk and she's talking about these castles where

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you know, there's this this king, you know that once dwelt in these

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castles, you know, king and
queen and they were having apple Tarisians and

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all that. Can you imagine digging
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I was just like sitting there drooling, you know, things totally would Uh

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So, who knows. You know, we're starting in Texas, but we're

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already you know, I've been getting
a lot of offers lately of hey,

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you know, we've got a place
over in Oklahoma, or we've got a

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place here, you know. So
hopefully it'll span out, but we're starting

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with the area right now where we
can all you know, easily access Texas,

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a big state. It really is. Have you done anything in San

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Antonio? Because San Antonio is pretty
haunted, very haunted. Yeah. So

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that's another thing. When you mentioned
your your your candles earlier and you were

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talking about the battlefield thing, what
was that candle? Called them fire?

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Phantom fire? So like the the
Kleing Brothers. When I first met them,

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I was actually metal detecting on a
we were actually looking for a cold

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case on a missing person and I
met the Clean brother brothers working with that

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working my part along with another psychic
as well. And anyway, long story

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short, there, I'm going to
be working with the Clean Brothers as well

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on a spot where an old Civil
War battlefield was. So I'm hoping to

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possibly get our whole team later and
then maybe we can join with the Klean

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Brothers when when I go do that
metal detecting battlefield in Virginia. So that

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would be an awesome thing. Hopefully, hopefully we'll get that, you know,

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worked out with the production company and
stuff to where we can do that.

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I think it would make an amazing
episode. That sounds great. Yeah,

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Josh, you do you have a
filmmaker background, is it? You're

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yeah, I've been I've been doing
I've been a filmmaker since I was seventeen.

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So just like every other filmmaker,
you know, you have that those

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issues where you think, oh I'm
gonna I'm finally gonna make it, and

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you're like, uh something, you
know something. But this has been the

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like the first real opportunity to actually
show showcase not only the work that I've

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done since I was seventeen, but
also help other filmmakers, Like I have

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a a teacher that I had since
high school who has got out to me

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about sound people, cameramen, anyone
that's involved in eddin that's been willing to

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help with our show as well when
we if we ever, you know,

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when we do need a novice filmmakers. So I've been edding since I was

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like fifteen, Oh wow, so
and directing since I was twenty something.

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So and now I'm I'm forty one, so it's it's time. It's time

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to get something going. Yeah.
So luckily I met Ryan through Facebook advertisement

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that he did, and it's been
magic ever since. Well that's what I

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was going to ask you. I
mean, did you you didn't all just

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know each other and decide to do
this. It was all kind of you

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all kind of came at it.
Well, I guess, I mean I

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can, I guess I can kind
of explain the whole stare stepping process of

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all this. I met Gypsy and
I met Josh, but I had already

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known Katie and Sean of our paranormal
group at whatever, and I'm just we

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just all kind of built, you
know, it's just been a kind of

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a snowball effect of us, and
everybody's just been so intrigued with this project

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and just willing to, you know, work at what we're trying to accomplish,

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and everybody sees my vision of what
I'm trying to create, and I

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think it's it's just it's just been
awesome. Everybody loves what we're trying to

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do, and we're also willing to
sacrifice our bodies and minds for everything that's

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going on, trust me, right, and you know what a lot of

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people, and I'm sure from other
paranormal shows you see even the behind the

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scenes stuff like the stuff that Josh
does and our camera people do the things

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that happen to them as well the
pal experiences. So I think one cool

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thing that hopefully we'll be able to
fit into the show as well as have

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a few you know, behind state, behind the stage or behind the scenes

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moments, because I mean Josh has
had some amazing experiences, you know,

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and I know we we got to
Katie. I mean, Melissa started explaining

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her story earlier, and I don't
know most of you probably don't know,

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but Melissa is a nurse, so
she's really handy to have on there as

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well because of her nurse background.
You know, Katie's over here getting choked.

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We have a medic on SIT and
paranormal all combined exactly, so it's

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gonna be it's gonna be epic.
Do you have a medic and a medican

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a nurse. I'm just a nurse. Medic sounds cooler and I'm well.

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And if you're not very good,
you can still talk to him because Colleen's

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on cast, so she can help
you out. You know, things don't

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work out, don't lose anybody,
right Yeah, uh, that's great.

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And so what next? You're still
filming or you're just trying to get one

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episode off the ground. Yet we're
trying right now. We're in the process

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of doing all the editing and trying
to get to get get We're trying to

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get the mermaide you know, the
budget for production right now. That's what

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I'm trying to work on right now. I'm I have I have several people

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interested in our show, so I'm
trying to get all that worked out right

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now. So I'm in the process
of doing that and uh, I mean

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we just and then Josh is doing
editing and getting everything working and all that

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stuff. So it's it's it's it's
starting to pay off. I mean,

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I will say that, so I
will I will say this right now.

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That makes us, even through ed
and all this footage, is that what

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makes us our show different than most
other shows is that it's real. Some

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people they'll just go shoot something and
then it's like, oh, we're gonna

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add a little bit of after effects
to this. We're gonna change something up,

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you know, you know, like
like most realities TV series are,

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but ours is one real everything that
everything that comes out of our mouths when

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we're doing interviews, when we're doing
just an impromptu sit down and just talk

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about things one nothing is scripted.
Nothing is say you should probably say this.

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No, we let everyone say what
they want to say and what their

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opinions are and what their experiences are. And that, to me, that's

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as different as what other shows are. Right. Matt Kondraki just said hello.

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He's with Dark Echos Paranormal on Amazon
Prime. I don't know if you

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know Matthew at all. OK,
he just heard you, he said hi.

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They just lined up with the Paraflex, and I actually just told an

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episode for them. I don't know, a couple of weeks ago to three

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weeks ago, which will be coming
out of season two. But you know,

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just being behind the camera or in
front of the camera, depending on

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where your job is, there's other
stuff that happens that you could not have

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anticipated. There could be bloopers,
there could be And I'm gonna say this

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if Matthew's listening. I mean,
you know, look, I'm not going

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to give anything about the episode away
because it's all under lock and seal until

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it comes out. But I will
say that one of the premises of the

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show is they really do want to
keep it really real, and they blindfold

408
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,000
the medium. We don't even know. I didn't know where I was going

409
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,440
other than other than the town I
was in. That's all I could tell

410
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,599
you. I didn't know where.
They blindfolded me, drove me to the

411
00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:01,239
location, took me out, brought
me in the building, and just as

412
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,320
they were going to take the blindfold
off, whoever was filming said, oh,

413
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,599
we got to go back and do
that again because something wasn't right or

414
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:13,400
something was off, and so back
to be out of the building, did

415
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,280
the whole thing over again. But
you know it's all real, you know,

416
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,440
But those are the things you can't
you can't, you can't count on.

417
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:30,840
You know, things happen that's Scary'll
don't get any ideas, please please,

418
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,559
Well you know something interesting too.
Colleen, you know, is a

419
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:45,000
psidchic. But Katie what a lot
of people don't realize. And just from

420
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:50,800
working with Katie, oh my gosh, she is so intuitive and she can

421
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,039
hear and see things as well.
And there was one place we were investigating

422
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:59,280
and filming and she was telling me
some stuff and I was like, oh

423
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,840
my god. From like and you
know, that's what's interesting too. There's

424
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,360
stuff that happens behind you know,
behind the scenes too that we pick up

425
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,880
on through the investigating, Like that
one place we're investigating where the lady was

426
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,559
crying by the bathroom for the gypsy
because the nurse comes out in me and

427
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:25,239
I'm like, we think this is
right and it's neat to work with,

428
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:31,519
you know, these two ladies that
are very very psychic, very intuitive,

429
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:37,880
because this is stuff that I I
mean, I think we all have psychic

430
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,800
abilities, honestly, that's my thing. It's just we don't always know how

431
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:49,039
to tune in to those things.
But those two people there are it's it's

432
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,760
pretty mind blowing. I love being
able to work with them. It's going

433
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,760
to be it's a blast. And
I think the more you do what we

434
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480
do, you know, the paranormal
part of this and going into these places,

435
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:04,960
I feel like if you're even remotely
sensitive, it starts to become a

436
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:10,760
little more absolutely right. You know, everybody raised their hand, you know

437
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:17,280
that's it, yes, exactly.
And you know I was raised to where

438
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:22,119
you know, all of that paranormal
stuff. You know, I was raising

439
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:29,320
a very uh strong Christian environment and
you know, don't believe in that kind

440
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,280
of thing. And I remember when
I had my very first paranormal experience.

441
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,559
Of course, I wasn't doing any
investigating, and I still don't necessarily consider

442
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:44,280
myself as an investigator as in the
paranormal. But I tell you, when

443
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,400
you get into these places and you
start experiencing, Like when I was at

444
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:52,760
Hunted Hill House, everybody was out
investigating, you know, a room and

445
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,760
there all of a sudden, I
get I'm in. I'm in the kitchen

446
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,360
all by myself, and I get
a tap tap tap on the shoulder and

447
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,119
I'm like, what just happened?
You know, I get a whisper in

448
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:10,559
the ear right. So it's amazing. It is amazing, and I feel

449
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:14,719
like the more you do it,
the stronger it will get because you understand

450
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,920
what it looks like. That's the
thing that was tough for me was thinking

451
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,519
it was like, I mean,
I saw WHOOPI Goldberg and ghosts. Right,

452
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,320
It's not like that. No,
it makes sense, But when you

453
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,880
realize what it really is that you're
supposed to be tuning into, it's like,

454
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,559
Okay, now you got it,
and it just keeps getting stronger and

455
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:38,320
stronger in places. It's a muscle
that you have to grow, honestly true.

456
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,440
Although interestingly Colleen and I don't know
if you and I talked about this

457
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:47,800
in Texas, but I'm pretty much
clamped down unless I'm supposed to be looking

458
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,760
for it. So I don't just
walk out and go. You know,

459
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,000
I've been on investigations and I'm like, I got nothing. You know,

460
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,760
it is nothing. I'm just shut
down. But if I'm supposed to,

461
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,719
it all comes out. Like when
we filmed the TV show, I was

462
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,840
getting like bombarded with stuff and it
is it's just I think they know.

463
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,320
Spirit knows when you're working. Okay, you need us to show up,

464
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,039
all right, we'll be there.
I agree. Like I don't walk through

465
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,880
you know, a store or somebody
else's house, just you know, feeling

466
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,840
stuff. I feel like it's like
you said, spirit and our intent,

467
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,199
like we know we're going there.
We're no, we're going to do this,

468
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:29,719
and we're already open to it.
We're not just going to go through

469
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:35,920
our daily lives just open to whatever
is around and gonna bombard us, right,

470
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,840
because that's no fun and it's no
fun, but investigating is fun.

471
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:49,239
So do you have new places lined
up? Uh? Yes'm I have locations

472
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:55,199
reserved, and I'm I'm waiting for
production company and then we're gonna well,

473
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,599
once that takes place, then we'll
start filming in those locations. I'm trying

474
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,239
right now. I'm in the process
of doing all that. So but yeah,

475
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,840
I'm basically the one who gets finds
the locations, and Ryan is finding

476
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,159
some really good ones that I can
meddle the checked, and so I'm getting

477
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:19,159
really excited. So when we come
back, are you going to be at

478
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:22,760
the Lone Star next year? Do
you think? Yes? So? When

479
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,280
fingers crossed right, Yeah, we
go, we get back there in twenty

480
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,880
twenty five, let's investigate some place
together. We'll add a day or two

481
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,440
onto the front of the pack.
That would be let's do it. Absolutely.

482
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:39,280
You can do a live stream if
you want to from there. We

483
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,519
can hook it up there. That
would be fun. G R. And

484
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:45,880
just you know, it doesn't have
to be a whole show, but it

485
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,000
could be kind of like this and
just this is us, is what we're

486
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,960
doing. That'd be kind of fun. I know. I told I told

487
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,639
Colleen when we were at the expo
in San Antonio. I said, you

488
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:58,639
have got to meet Scott. I
was like, he is like the coolest

489
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:00,559
guy ever. I was like,
he has the coolest viobs. We got

490
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:10,840
in likes funny. It was kind
of funny. It was just it was

491
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,719
just fun. You popped up and
and and there you were, you know.

492
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,920
And that's why I have the candles
because I used to read all the

493
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,719
time. But people aren't into that. They just walk right by. But

494
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,000
the candles bring them up to the
table, so at least I have somebody

495
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,639
to talk to. And I didn't
need to read. I didn't read.

496
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,880
I didn't even because I was alone
and people were talking about the candles and

497
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,400
I couldn't break myself away. Well, I mean, there are awesome candles.

498
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,159
What do you expect. I don't
know. I mean that was the

499
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:40,440
first time anybody had ever seen them
in person. It was there's such a

500
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,960
like a creative idea, like the
way they did y'all market them. You

501
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,480
know, it's just it's just creative. I appreciate that. I just didn't

502
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,159
want them to be dark or but
but you know, kind of fun,

503
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:54,519
you know what I mean. Yeah, the whimsy, whimsical, kind of

504
00:41:54,519 --> 00:42:00,480
a quirky, comical, you know, scary candle good good way in a

505
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:02,800
good way. Yeah, that's what
I was kind of going for. Yes,

506
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,239
the names are I love the names. So it's exciting. Maybe,

507
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,599
Frank one of the things we're doing
too. And I don't want to make

508
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,199
this about me, but I A'm
going to tell you this because I think

509
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:20,760
it's kind of cool. People in
the paranormal field are all about raising money

510
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,800
to help preserve some of these buildings
that would have long been gone. And

511
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,599
it's the paranormal people that come out
and they investigate and they pay for investigations

512
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:35,320
and these buildings stay. We have
a place here, well not really here.

513
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,199
It's quite a bit north from where
I am in Vermont, and it's

514
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:44,920
called the Wilson Castle. Huh.
We have they They are just the nicest

515
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,920
people and the castle has been in
the family for you know, decades,

516
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,599
and it takes a lot of money
to I mean, they finally were able

517
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:57,960
to fix their roof because they were
getting water in and and people go up

518
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,719
there investigate. The place is amazing. And so we have a candle that

519
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:07,280
we're launching in March just for them, and it raises money. So it's

520
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,239
not you know, they get they
get to buy it at wholesale and sell

521
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,880
it, but they if you buy
it off our website then they get a

522
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,440
portion of that as well, and
so everything goes right there. Well,

523
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,559
maybe we'll maybe, maybe we'll have
to do a ghost detector's candle lighter,

524
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:29,400
talk to me about that. Yeah, I've got a really even better idea.

525
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:34,880
We can do a ghost detector's candle
and we'll get a little thing that

526
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,960
they can metal detect and find in
the bottom of the candle. That's what

527
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,920
I like. That. Stick with
me for all your marketing needs. I'm

528
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:52,079
on it. We got there,
you go. You know, somebody's asking

529
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:58,440
a question here. Let's see,
Uh, Stephanie is asking any suggestions on

530
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,880
paranormal equipment that is affordable and effective. How do you guys feel about that?

531
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,360
That's a good question. I mean, honestly, like the roofs,

532
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:14,039
the best thing that's affordable would be
an EMF meter and of course an EVP

533
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,360
recorder. I think those are the
basis of all paranormal first, you know,

534
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,760
for doing stuff that's inexpensive and you
want to get started. Flashlights also,

535
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,280
flashlight, definitely flashlight. But you
know, most of us walk around

536
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,000
with an iPhone or a gal you
know, a phone and and there's a

537
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:36,440
recorder in there. And I've got
some amazing things on my phone when i

538
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,320
haven't had an actual recorder. Well, I was going to say our sound

539
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:45,880
guy, alb which he's amazing.
He he's when he's you know, hook

540
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,480
up sound. He's had stuff come
into his microphone that we couldn't even have

541
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:53,320
heard, and he's learned how to
filter it to where he can actually hear

542
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,199
it when he goes back and does
the editing. So I mean, yeah,

543
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,719
I mean I've had that happen.
I've heard some interesting stuff listening to

544
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:14,159
this stuff. Yeah, John,
Yeah, three D glasses. So recently

545
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:22,360
I heard about people capturing stuff on
their iPhones by using the lens the red

546
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:27,719
I think it was the red lens. So this is something that's pretty inexpensive.

547
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,400
I think I got all these off
of Amazons. So our next,

548
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:39,039
uh experiment and and with photos and
video of what they can capture with along

549
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:45,320
with So what you do is you
cut out the lens and you put it

550
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:51,000
over your iPhone camera. Now I've
heard iPhone. Now, I don't know

551
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:55,960
about other phones or phone cameras,
but I can't wait to try this experiment

552
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:01,840
because yeah, I've heard some amazing
stuff. So I'm going to be experimenting

553
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:07,920
this week and I will give you
some feedback. I've heard the red one.

554
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:13,599
But here's something if you want to
go down a conspiracy theory rabbit hole.

555
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,000
I don't know how many of you
are on TikTok, but uh,

556
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:24,920
there is a certain thing to do
with the old I can't remember the mineral.

557
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:30,199
I think it's a mineral with a
blue lens. Glasses that were invented

558
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:39,360
and they actually used them in a
lot of secret military things. I can't

559
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:45,679
remember the name of the material,
but look it up and they were using

560
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:52,800
a blue lens and is uranium.
It wasn't uranium, Okay, it's something

561
00:46:52,840 --> 00:47:01,159
else. So this is something I
guess we can all do our homework on.

562
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,320
I can't recall it right now,
but it was a blue lenses and

563
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,920
they this guy invented this out of
a certain mineral and he made these lenses

564
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:16,760
and people were seeing all kinds of
things in a different dimension. Oh,

565
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,760
I saw that on TikTok. Did
you Okay? You gotta tell me about

566
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,800
this gypsy? We should all right, I'll sing you some and we're gonna

567
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,960
do it on on camera. So
I'm gonna be playing with this and let's

568
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:37,679
let's let's capture some of this awesome. I'm all about experiments. And speaking

569
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:45,000
of experiments, a milio that works
with our team, he is absolutely amazing

570
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:50,639
with like out way out their theories
this and that's what I love about him

571
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:53,599
as our group. Like he's not
on right now, but he's just amazing

572
00:47:53,679 --> 00:48:00,079
with crazy experiments. That's a good
way to explain it with me and all

573
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:06,159
types of stuff he's always trying to
come up with. Well, someone that

574
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,280
uses a compass have you ever seen
a compass get used? Oh with the

575
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:16,960
with polarity changes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll spin around whenever magnetic

576
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:24,360
filled charged this atmosphere. It will
also do that. That's amazing. Gipsy,

577
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,360
I need to ask you. Is
that the wrapping around those glasses that

578
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,599
we're hearing? Yeah? Sorry,
I was about to pull what out?

579
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,360
Oh okay, I'm sorry. It's
loud. It's like the Little Old Lady

580
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:44,239
and the you know, and she's
singing in the symphony right right right,

581
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,039
Sorry about that, No, no, no, no, but listen,

582
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:51,039
we have about five minutes left,
so I want to make sure we have

583
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:53,880
time to let people know where they
can find the show, learn about it,

584
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,559
see future episodes that are coming up, tell us how we can find

585
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:06,400
ghost Detectors. You can find this
on Facebook right now, and then we

586
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,960
have other platforms we're going to start
basing things on. But right now we're

587
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,320
just kind of build up and trying
to create something, you know, we're

588
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:24,119
trying to get everything going. But
yeah, Instagram, ill look really where?

589
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:43,760
Wow? Sorry, you're on YouTube, so you can find me on

590
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:51,519
YouTube on zero discrimination as well as
my website gypsydigs dot com. And I'm

591
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:59,920
sure, we'll be having a Ghost
Detector's website soon and all kinds of goodies

592
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:04,159
coming. So everything still in the
works, but we've been working hard.

593
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,960
Josh has been working his tail end
off getting a lot of this edited and

594
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,000
he's doing an amazing job. And
then we just got our poster done and

595
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,639
it looks amazing. I don't know
if you've got to see it at the

596
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:22,119
para con Scott, but is that
the one you sent me to use for

597
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:30,960
the show because I thought the low
fantastic. Yeah, yes, we had

598
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:40,360
that done and then we had we're
working on awesome there yep. Yeah,

599
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:46,559
but yeah, you can find us
on Ghost Detectors on Facebook and Shadow Encounters

600
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:52,480
Paranormal. Also that's actual our own
you know, actual paranormal group that's working

601
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:58,960
with Ghost Detectors yep, Shadow Encounters
Paranormal. So I'm sure you'll be posting

602
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,519
stuff there too about what's going on. Yes, with everything that's great and

603
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:07,800
hopefully and hopefully very soon we'll post
our trailers we got to right now.

604
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:13,039
Hopefully here in the next couple of
weeks, we'll post this trailers up for

605
00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:17,039
everyone to see on Facebook and then
on uh. You can also check out

606
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:22,480
my website, my own production company
at lg FK Pictures dot com. You

607
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:27,000
can see all the other work that
I've done on there, and I'm hoping

608
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:32,039
as the show goes on that those
Ghost Detectors episodes would also be on there

609
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:37,559
as well. They'll be added more
for marketing it. Well, was it

610
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:42,559
again? L g I F No, lg F K Pictures dot com,

611
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,920
lg F Pictures dot com perfect,
excellent, excellent, Yeah, that'd be

612
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,119
great. I mean you all come
from such a diverse background. That's what

613
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:54,199
I just love about this. You
know, you get the paranormal and the

614
00:51:54,239 --> 00:52:01,159
ghost of the medium, and the
video person and the metal detector. That's

615
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:07,119
great. You know you have like
a full spectrum team, do you do.

616
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:12,480
I think it really is something that
I've not seen before. Really,

617
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:15,440
I've not seen this concept at all, you know, just bits and pieces

618
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,039
of it in different places, you
know, but never never in the same

619
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:22,039
never in the same place, which
I love. It's going to be awesome

620
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:25,760
to see us solid action. Whenever
anyone's going to be able to see it,

621
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,760
they're gonna love it. I have
no doubt in my mind. Well

622
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,400
I have no doubt, and I'll
be looking out for it. I'll be

623
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,079
checking it out and we'll stay in
touch because you know, if you haven't

624
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:39,039
fronted me on Facebook, please do? I know Ryan did, and Colleen

625
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:42,800
you did too, right, No, Colleen you did? You did?

626
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,400
You did? Yeah, I know
it's connecting you with email. Usually I

627
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,840
just kind of sent the Facebook message, but yeah, so so that'd be

628
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,519
right great, stay in touch so
that we can find out how you're going.

629
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:58,440
No, I'm I'm so glad that
you you reached out and said something

630
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:04,239
because we are booked literally into almost
May now with shows and we just happened

631
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,679
to have this opening. So I'm
glad we were able to do it while

632
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,280
it was fresh in our minds.
And if you want to do a candle,

633
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,400
let me know, because I think
that would be awesome. I'm so

634
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,800
young and I want the idea of
having something put somewhere in the candle.

635
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:23,239
I love that you know, several
metal detectorists that I know do the bath

636
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,880
bombs where you know it's got the
big ball and then it's got a relic

637
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,039
or something. But I love the
idea with the candles. So that's that's

638
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:34,679
definitely we're gonna have to do that. Oh yes, right, folks,

639
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,400
I got to say, we've got
thirty seconds left. I just want to

640
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,239
thank you all for being here.
Next week, I'm hoping Christina will be

641
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,159
back. We have Dana Stricker,
psychic medium, is going to be joining

642
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,719
us on the show. She was
also at the Lone Star paricn right across

643
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,920
from my table. Thank you all
for being here. It has been an

644
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:54,400
absolute pleasure chatting with each and every
one of you, and thanks for welcoming

645
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:59,480
us back. We will see you
next week right here on The Paranormal Project.

646
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,000
Have a great night, everybody.
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647
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:15,320
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648
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,960
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649
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650
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