WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:07.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagan zalaz Son Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:14.599 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions katz R 3 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:19.640 two SAG and iHeartRadio Station. Good afternoon, everybody, welcome to Eye on 4 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:23.160 the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jagan 5 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:29.000 Zawas. Got our our guy Sammy in today. That our guy. Did 6 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:32.039 you see Sammon? Hey, good to be here. So many kids, 7 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:35.840 there's like four interns. Man, What the heck? You know, how 8 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:38.439 are we supposed to remember all their names? Come on, I've been here 9 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:42.399 for Sammy, you know what, I forget my I call my daughter by 10 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:45.479 my other daughter's name today, fair enough? So you know, you just 11 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:48.159 you're talking to a couple of guys who, yes, we get up and 12 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:51.200 leave the room and don't remember why we left the room. I know, 13 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:55.759 I'm with Steven j yeahs. You gotta just yeah, you gotta know as 14 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.119 long as you gonna call you out, at least Kevin or somebody else. 15 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:02.520 Okay, that's hey, hope to develop some momentum for the show to get 16 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:06.040 me to the end of the day. A lot of things going on. 17 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:08.159 A nice Tommy press conference. Yes, today, we're gonna have that, 18 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.239 right, We're gonna play the whole thing in its entirety. A couple of 19 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:15.560 pieces that we took out of it because there was some discussion of an event 20 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:19.359 going on with coaches versus cancer, and we'll we'll mention that, but we 21 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.200 took it because we wanted to hear have you hear Tommy's comments on what's going 22 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.599 on with his team and then the game's coming up this weekend. But we'll 23 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:32.400 play that. It'll be the second segment of the four o'clock hour, and 24 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:36.439 we'll play that thing start to finish, right, okay, And at the 25 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.480 beginning of the show here in about ten to fifteen minutes, we're gonna have 26 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:44.120 Troy Hutchinson from go Azy Cats. He went to the softball press conference right 27 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:49.640 the Tommy press conference, so I wasn't aware of softball today, but it 28 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:52.519 is what it is. We're so busy that we have can go to everything. 29 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.680 You know, did you ever do you ever have to help your boys 30 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.680 move in and out of apartments not here, dorms and things. No, 31 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:05.159 No, my oldest is in Baltimore. In my youngest here. No, 32 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.799 no, but it's it's the one of the worst things you can well im. 33 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:09.520 It's the thirty first, right, So I'm wrapping up getting my daughter 34 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:16.879 out of her house and and you know, she's got to find another mover. 35 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:20.639 That's all. That's all I can say. And I didn't even do 36 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:22.840 that much this time. Was most of it is over the weekend. But 37 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.159 that's what I was busy doing, you know today, So ours social media 38 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:30.240 got up so late and I was just, uh, you know, trying 39 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:31.520 to you know, get her out of the house, you know, painting 40 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:36.680 some walls and you know, make so she can get her deposit back and 41 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.439 you know all that stuff. And it's in a nutty time when your kids 42 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:44.280 move. Man, She's moved like four times that she left high school. 43 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.479 You moved into a dorm her first year, moved into an apartment after that, 44 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.919 moved into another apartment after that, moved into this house. And now 45 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:53.599 and she's actually moving back home. And I don't know that she's all that 46 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.599 happy about that picture. She gets to the house well enough to get her 47 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:01.719 to puzzit back at tri place. Yeah, yeah, she comes with a 48 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:06.080 cat. She's got a cat. There are now four cats in our house. 49 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.360 O. Man, that's not fun. Yeah, okay, let's let's 50 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:14.120 proceed with the show basketball game tomorrow obviously with Cal. Right, I think 51 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:17.400 it's the get right weekend for Arizona or get better, because I think you're 52 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:22.479 gonna kill Stanford on Satday. Sunday should be okay with Cal tomorrow, yep, 53 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:25.599 And that'll be some that'll be some some momentum, as you like to 54 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:28.840 use the word. Yeah, Well, you know, you have the expectation 55 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.560 that they're playing at home. You know that they'll have their uh you know, 56 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:37.000 they'll be motivated, right, They'll they'll they'll be uh, you know, 57 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.120 in front of the home crowd, knowing you know, you can't lose 58 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:42.840 at home. If you're gonna be splitting on the road, you can't be 59 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:46.319 losing games at home. And they've got a tough road trip coming up after 60 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:51.599 this weekend. So yeah, you know, they handled Cal pretty well, 61 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.039 but then they got handled pretty well by Stanford. You imagine that they'll be 62 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:59.240 a little a little fired up for that one on Sunday. Okay, yeah, 63 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:00.919 yeah, no question, So it should be fun. Uh, maybe 64 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.560 stay in at the top of the top of the conference race. You know, 65 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:08.639 you know what's a weird conference because everyone's bunched up. Yeah, there 66 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.800 are, and you know, and then and then again, as we're saying 67 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.639 nationally, you know, everybody's lising. You know we saw last night, 68 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:17.920 Uh, you know North Carolina get beat by Damon Stardharmer and Georgia Tech. 69 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:24.439 Uh shot at the at the end and North Carolina got hosed on that last 70 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:28.879 place. It should have been a foul. You know, you know what 71 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:30.800 happens, right, they're gonna make you free throws or not. But you 72 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.680 know the fact that you know, Georgia Tech was with them all the way. 73 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:38.439 You know in North Carolina hadn't hadn't lost the conference game. So so 74 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.480 what you're seeing, guys, And I'm sure you pay attention to Seving more 75 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:45.399 than probably us the road games. And and I know that Tommy was asked 76 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.639 this last week and this week, uh, Georgia was at the Georgia six 77 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.879 at home. North Carolina, who's supposed to be very good, goes on 78 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.040 the road gets beat by Georgia Tech and all applause, applause to up to 79 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.480 Damon. But you would se should handle them right, think though, And 80 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:03.000 that's not Arizona going to wherever and then getting beat. I mean, they're 81 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.160 not the only one happening to and that, you know, I'm Georgia, 82 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.800 Georgia. Tax's still under five hundred. Think they're ten and eleven. Yeah, 83 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.480 right, so they're still under five hundred. And you know, and 84 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:16.879 but it seems like not to not to rag on on Arizona fan, but 85 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:24.319 they feel like they're the only program who should never lose. Anytime they lose, 86 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:26.600 it's like, what the hell are you guys doing losing? Right? 87 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:31.000 You know we're no good? Yeah, you know, exact right, and 88 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:34.000 you know what, well, you're so much better than them, but on 89 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:39.519 that day you weren't. Yeah right, you look at you you're passing by 90 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:45.319 tests. But Steve, you know, but you know, I take in 91 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.480 terms of basketball, I'm more level headed than that you make me out to 92 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:54.319 be. But but I need some more. But you know, well, 93 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.920 I get frustrated with Arizona fan who feels like Arizona should never lose a game 94 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:01.839 and never lose a game to a team that they're better than. Well, 95 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.360 that happens all the time, especially in basketball, happens all the time. 96 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:10.079 I mean, you know, in baseball, you're a good team if you 97 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:14.360 only win sixty percent of your game the game, right, No, it's 98 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:16.759 just the way it is. They've been spoiled. Your your blue blood followers 99 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.399 have been spoiled. They have been But you know, so you know when 100 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:23.800 you go lose at Stanford, do you go lose at Washington State or you 101 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:28.560 even go lose at Oregon State? You know these kids are they're all college 102 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.319 basketball players, which means they're all pretty damn good and on a given day, 103 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:35.839 if it all comes together for somebody, they can beat somebody. Georgia 104 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:40.439 Chake had no business beating North Carolina's last night. Well that's the nature of 105 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.120 it. Feels like just basketball in general right now, it's like a team. 106 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.839 You take Stanford beating us for example, they hit their they they hit 107 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:53.680 their record in threes on one right, and you mentioned it. The guys 108 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:57.439 playing at a high level in college basketball NBA, they're there for a reason. 109 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:02.480 Yeah, they wouldn't be playing college basketball if they weren't very Even if 110 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:09.560 you're a you know, a player at you know, New Mexico State, 111 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:13.240 not to you mean you're you're you're Alma my Steve, that's still a really 112 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.240 good basketball player. Go play him on the playground, and let's see how 113 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.959 you do against that guy. Right, you know what happens happens all the 114 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:24.879 time. So and my whole thing is when the Arizona gets to the tournament, 115 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:29.519 it's the it's the first round or two that they struggled the most, 116 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.319 because those are the teams. Oh, they're no problem, no biggest problem. 117 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:38.279 Peters Saint Peter's. Come on, when they played the Georgia, They'll 118 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.360 play the North Carolinas and all the other teams. Oh, I don't feel 119 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.519 any problems with those guys because Arizona shows up. They show up, they're 120 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:46.839 ready to play. Most of the time, it's these teams, like even 121 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.920 last night Georgia Tech and going on the road we've talked about is hard to 122 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:55.040 win. But those those subpar teams, they play with house money, and 123 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.439 that's the team you don't want to play against. Like you mentioned we lost 124 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.959 to Princeton last year. You've aided. They weren't expected to win that game. 125 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.040 That's not a team that you want to play in the first weekend that 126 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.600 if they lose, Okay, they're happy to be there, but they're happy 127 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.639 to be there. They're going to play their tail off, right. Yeah, 128 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.680 Steve mentioned it's kind of how you have a has been even the last 129 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:18.759 three years of they play to their opponent, and we'll see they played better 130 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.160 at home. They should handle Collen Stanford, but I wouldn't be surprised if 131 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.360 it's close. Sure, Yeah, I mean, I tell you what I 132 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:28.480 know right now that Arizona fan does not want to see Stanford in the first 133 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.840 round of the Pac Cluff Tournament, right or Washington State now they like to 134 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.960 see, well, they'd like to see Oregon State because they feel like there's 135 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:39.879 no way organ station would do that to them again. But I can you 136 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:46.840 know, if Arizona winds up against Washington State or Stanford in their first game 137 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.840 in the PAC twelve, there's gonna be some nervous Arizona fans. Yeah. 138 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.360 Well, and PAC twelve still, if we're one or two, you get 139 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.799 to buy right, Yes? Okay, So I was gonna say, you 140 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:58.639 know who the last team in the PAC twelve actually one through four gets one 141 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.799 through five, get one through four gets by. I was gonna said, 142 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.360 you know who the last place team in PAC twelve is right now? Fate 143 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:11.559 anymore, it's USC Wow and seven Yeah, they're even talking about getting rid 144 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:16.159 of their coach after ten years I think Field. Yeah, so in the 145 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:22.120 Anfield was that you know, nice looking car in the window guy. When 146 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.600 they hired him, he had come off that uh run at Florida Gulf Coast, 147 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.720 had no connection to USC and uh you know he was the shiny he 148 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.919 was the shiny new new car. Well, he's the he was. He's 149 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.440 been a good, very good recruiter. Yeah, he hasn't been able to 150 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.840 coach him. The funny thing about it is that's how people are judged. 151 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.440 Now, you guts, who was the shiny new car three weeks ago? 152 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.840 Jet Fish? Yeah, Jetfish. We'll see if that's a used car a 153 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.080 month, a couple of years, or if the bumper falls off when he 154 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.200 pulls out of the lot. What have you done for me lately? Through 155 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.320 a nature of it. It's a nature of it, and you see him 156 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:01.600 more and more like the iso was they I mean, those guys are on 157 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.759 their last leg or in the back nine of their career, per se. 158 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.240 And now you would never fire a tom Is out or when Roy Williams and 159 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.759 were there, You weren't firing those guys because of what they've done for the 160 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:16.960 program. But now it seems like this next wave of maybe it's an NCAA 161 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.720 culture thing, but it's like, okay, if you're not getting us what 162 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.279 we need in three to four years, see you, Bill Belichick? Yeah, 163 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:28.519 Bill Belichick, Right, I mean, I know that's nine but you 164 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:33.320 know, probably possibly the greatest coach in the history of the NFL. And 165 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.919 he did not leave on his term, right, No, and that's one 166 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.039 of the most difficult things. You know, Lout didn't either. Yeah, 167 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.240 they've been given the situation, right. The end game is a tough game 168 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.840 to play. It is a game to play when you don't have the team 169 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.879 or the players, you know. And maybe, and maybe that's why Nick 170 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.039 Saban got out of I get I know he got to the playoff, but 171 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:54.879 all season long, Yeah, people were saying it's not Alabama in the SEC 172 00:10:54.919 --> 00:11:00.639 anymore, it's Georgia. And and you know, maybe he was noticing a 173 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.399 little bit of a slide and said, I'm even before this thing gets gets 174 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.799 rolling, I'm out. Yeah. Well, coach k did the same thing, 175 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:11.039 and he went out on his own term. Yeah. It's it's tough, 176 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.879 you know, stuff. Not all of us can, you know, 177 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.799 So it's u No, it's weird, weird stuff. But you know, 178 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:22.039 but again it's uh, you know, I I think, what, well, 179 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:26.600 well they even after this weekend, that won't even tell us have they 180 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:28.399 you know, have they turned? Because they should win these two games. 181 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:33.000 They'll find out next week. Talk to me in mid mid March turn well 182 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.720 this, after this, I'll give you jay perfect example. Okay, twenty 183 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:43.600 seventeen, right there, DeAndre Alkins Trier, blah blah blah. You wonder 184 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.320 what the hell they storm? They storm through the PAC twelve right, what 185 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.799 are you thinking? What do you think they're going to the Phoenix Because they're 186 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:54.120 playing, because they're playing out of their mind, right right out of their 187 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.519 mind. You're thinking, Okay, Sean's finally got him going. They're playing 188 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:01.120 like you expect them to. Five days later, they're getting the ass kicked 189 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.480 the boise and it's over. No, that was that. That's how quick 190 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:09.360 it is. That was actually Ins the Xavior Arizona game. No, no, 191 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.679 no, no, it was the Treer Buffalo Buffalo. It was the 192 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:15.639 Buffalo. Oh Trier, Oh that game? Okay, you meant the Trier, 193 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.519 the Trier. Don't give the ball to lor Marketing market that was the 194 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.840 year before. So every year, you know, you think they get momentum, 195 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:28.320 they don't, and they get their butt kicked because every day's an adventure. 196 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.639 Man, it just is, especially with the twenty year olds. Yeah. 197 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.919 Yeah, that's been the bigger thing. It's like you everyone preaches in 198 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:39.600 college basketball you need you need experienced guards to win in March, which has 199 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.559 kind of been its case. But even an experienced guard is twenty one, 200 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:48.519 twenty two years old at the max, Like it's kind of boswell an experienced 201 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.720 guard. Like people say, yes, but this is his second year. 202 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.759 He's nineteen years old. No, no, don't go that we've canceled his 203 00:12:54.799 --> 00:13:01.759 culture. But he's he's he's forty games into his season, forty nineteen. 204 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.879 Guess what, there's some NBA players who are nineteen who are fantastic. And 205 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:11.240 give me this. He played really well his first year and at the beginning 206 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.120 of this year, because I didn't think his first year is different than this 207 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.960 year. The expectations different, of course, of course, but he still 208 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.360 played. I don't disagree with you, but he played very well. So 209 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.120 you get the sense that this guy can play and he's very consistent, shocked 210 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.000 the ball, very well, whatever he's going through, because it's obviously there's 211 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.600 something there. You don't go through five six games like that. Yeah, 212 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.639 consistently, But in the nineteen the eighty thing, you're he's forty games into 213 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:43.320 this, forty games into games. I mean, but he's not a lot 214 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.279 He was never going to be like a lottery picker. Nope, but a 215 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.360 lot of people, I should say, a couple of the sites said he 216 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.840 was gonna be an NBA player, be sure, Sure, but he's gonna 217 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.440 have to stay a little longer than people follow. Yeah, he's not going 218 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:01.720 anywhere after this. No, no, well unless unless unless it's boom somewhere 219 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.200 else. All right, let's hit the road. We're gonna come back. 220 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.600 Troy Hutchison, we'll talk We talked a little Arizona softball with him. 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Troy, how were you good? How about you guys? 301 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.079 Been doing this nice beautiful day? Yes, yes, well you spent 302 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:10.519 some of it in a press conference or two. Yeah, and then and 303 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:14.279 we're in a window list studio, so we have no idea what it's like. 304 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.960 Your office looks better than our. So how was Let's start with softball 305 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.359 first, because that's what you went to first. How was today? And 306 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:30.319 how was coach? You know, today was very different from previous media day 307 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.240 press conferences in the past. When it comes to theres on a softball there's 308 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.440 usually high expectations. The programs usually ranked in the top ten, if not 309 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.519 in the top five. This year being the first year in a long time 310 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:47.359 that they're not even in the top twenty five. It's a sense of read 311 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:52.480 putting the program where it belongs, putting the program back in national spotlight, 312 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.960 and not having what happened last year missing the tournament in thirty six years happen 313 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:03.680 again. You know, maybe this is a horrible question to ask, but 314 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:06.440 you know, you know, we all saw that. You know it was 315 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.279 a little bit of a struggle in Kaitlin Lowe's first year as the coach, 316 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.920 replacing Ca Andrea, and then they end up in the in the College World 317 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:17.240 Series that year. You know, how did it go backwards? I guess 318 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:18.960 is what I want to ask for any ideas on why it went backwards. 319 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:26.559 I think that you lost a little veteran leadership in the circle when Hannah Bowen 320 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.279 graduated. And again, the pitching wasn't solid that first year, but they 321 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:36.279 kind of piece stick together as the tournament rolled around and they had enough marquee 322 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:41.400 wins to get in where this past year they didn't that The pitching just really 323 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.559 never materialized last year, and a lot of it was young in experience, 324 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:49.519 in experience pitching with Isisa Silva uh Summer and Dyke was in there as well. 325 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:55.079 I had a few transfers and Devin Nuts really needed to carry the load, 326 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:59.200 and you know, it's it's a difficult task. But when you look 327 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:03.359 at Arizon the last season, the offense was top five in the country, 328 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:06.599 the defense was top five in the country. But at the end of the 329 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.319 day, the way you win in softball is in the circle, and Arizona 330 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:14.880 just didn't have the arms that needed to win games, important games down the 331 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.680 stretch and throughout that season that would have gone on them in the tournament. 332 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.400 So they were able to make some changes this offseason, seeing Tarren Moett lead 333 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:27.640 the program, bringing in Christian Conrad, adding to the staff with the new 334 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:33.359 edition of an extra coach and Josh Bloomer, and they're kind of reidentifying themselves 335 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:38.519 as the coaching staffs and just as a program retooling right now. So they 336 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:42.720 have some pictures in that are I guess injured or what. They're not ready 337 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:48.039 to go right away. Yeah, So the season starts on February eighth, 338 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:52.599 and Devin Nets will not be ready to go. The injury was unknown. 339 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:55.839 She really didn't say what the injury was. And same with Sydney Summer and 340 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:59.920 Dyke and those were two of the pitchers that really carry the load last Sea 341 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.160 than for Arizona and for Devin you know, she's really good at the play 342 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:07.640 for Arizona as well. And Caitlin at the end of the press conference said 343 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:11.200 that she will not be even hitting during this time as she tries to recover 344 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.440 and get back to full strength. Well, so they're already already backed up 345 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:18.960 against the wall and the season hasn't even started. How's her? How's how's 346 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.160 Caitlin's demeanor? What you know, can you tell? Is she feeling pressure? 347 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.599 Is she not feeling pressure? Is she you know? Okay with all 348 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.599 of that, What does it look like from where you sit? Yeah, 349 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.319 you know, I think she's made it clear from the moment she took the 350 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.240 job. There's always pressure when you're taking over for a legendary coach like Mike 351 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:42.160 Andrea and taking over a program like Arizona. So I think there's constant pressure 352 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.960 in that job. But I think she's learned how to handle it a little 353 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.279 bit better. I don't know to mean. She seemed I don't want to 354 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:52.799 say, calmer, bit a little bit more confident in the last couple of 355 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:57.559 press conferences than in years past. And you know that's just from my perspective. 356 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:03.759 But they also have of Christian Conrad again. They're retooling this coaching staff, 357 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.720 and I've gotten to interview him a couple of times, and he talked 358 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.920 about changing the way they look at pitching, changing the way they prepare for 359 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:15.200 a game and how they go about a game, talking about spin rate, 360 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.759 talking about you know, timing on a fastball, ground ball rate, all 361 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:23.359 these things that you see at the major league level and incorporating it into softball. 362 00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:27.000 So it's going to be very different. And I don't know if it's 363 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:32.480 going to be your traditional here's your one or two starters that go six seven 364 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.039 innings. I think it's going to be more of a starter that goes four 365 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:37.880 to five and then you're going to have a bullpen to close it out. 366 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.920 I think you're going to start to see kind of MLB style play at the 367 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.440 softball level at Arizona, more of a major league approach, situational pitcher. 368 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:51.839 Yeah, yeah, exactly Is she maybe to both of you guys, is 369 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:55.519 she under pressure this year to get stuff right in terms of lisening her job? 370 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:00.440 Just maybe more criticism and maybe possibly seemed what she's girl? What do 371 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.319 you think? Just a random question. I think if you don't make the 372 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:08.000 tournament, there is going to start to have pressure Mountain, probably from alumni 373 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:12.279 boosters, because it is one of those programs that you know, Arizona's known 374 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:17.000 for as a university of softball and they take great pride in it. Obviously 375 00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:22.640 with coach Canrea being so successful having eight national championships always been in the conversation. 376 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:26.359 I think if you make the tournament and make a push for a super 377 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.319 regional, you kind of back off that, but you do need to show 378 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:34.200 progress from last season three years. But still right, well again, you 379 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:41.839 know, when you're at Arizona from a from a leadership standpoint, who who 380 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.480 you know? Who who runs this team? You know, in the in 381 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:48.039 the roster, I know Karlie Scooping has been there like forever. There's gotta 382 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.119 be some others. I mean, you know, our very first intern at 383 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.079 the show at a crush on on Carli's Scoop and so you know that's how 384 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:02.200 long that's been. Yeah, you know, it amazed me today that that 385 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.759 class as seniors. I remember interviewing them as their incoming freshmen and getting them, 386 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.039 you know, in that you know, college mindset of what are you 387 00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:11.920 going to do on campus and all that, and all of a sudden there's 388 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.519 seniors. So I would say Carly Scooping is one of those players on the 389 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.640 roster. Ali Skaggs to me is kind of not only the leader, but 390 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:25.279 really the figure of Arizona softball right now, the face of Arizona softball right 391 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:29.559 now, Devin Nats, even though she's going to be starting off injured this 392 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.240 season. It's kind of like the emotional leader of this team. You see 393 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.960 a lot of the times when they play in there going well and Devin is 394 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.880 having that change up working you saw in the tournament a couple of years ago. 395 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:44.599 She gets fired up and the rest of the team gets fired up. 396 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.359 So I think those are a couple year leaders. But you're going to also 397 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:52.440 see new leaders emerge from the sophomore class because you look after the senior class, 398 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.079 there isn't a lot of juniors on the rosters. So who's going to 399 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.799 be that leader among the sophomore group. Maybe Olivia Din she was of the 400 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.279 press conference today, had a great season her first year. Dakota Kennedy as 401 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:07.480 well. But you're going to need to see some of those software and step 402 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.000 up as leaders because they're going to be in that role soon enough. Yeah, 403 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.960 youah, no question, We'll see what happens with this team. I 404 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.799 look forward to him. I hope to get out there at a time or 405 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.640 two. But there's no question that if pitching's not there, this team is 406 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.559 going to be in trouble. It's the case every year. Yeah, and 407 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:30.240 you know, they actually set up the schedule very nicely for I think a 408 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:33.960 situation like this, you do have your Alabama in Arkansas that you're playing, 409 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.799 but you have a lot of teams that are high in RPI highend strengthen schedule 410 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:42.119 that aren't necessarily top fifteen teams that you could have competitive games, maybe win 411 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.480 a couple of those games, and put yourself in a good spot going in 412 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.599 the back role play. All right, all right, all right, So 413 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.039 you were also at the at the time of Lloyd press conference today. I 414 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.960 thought he had a lot of interesting stuff to say. As we told jof 415 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:57.400 Air, we're going to play that whole press conference. But you know, 416 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:03.559 what's your main takeaway from from today's press conference. I think one is kind 417 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:06.319 of I'm going to use we're talking about softball, so kind of a and 418 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.359 Andrea saying here is stay in the moment, say where your feet are, 419 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.839 because you've seen this team, you know they have a high quality win and 420 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.440 then they go on the road and take their lumps. And Tommy's just really 421 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.599 been talking about consistency. How do you stay the course of what you've been 422 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.200 doing at home and on the road and not letting the moment maybe get to 423 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:29.759 you and not overthinking things. So you talked about playing twenty five twenty five 424 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.200 seconds of solid defense and then all of a sudden they have a foul, 425 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.720 or all of a sudden a three point ball goes in, and how do 426 00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:41.359 you finish those possessions, not only defensively but offensively as well. So to 427 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.200 me, this press conference really was about finishing, finishing offense and finishing defense. 428 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:51.839 Yeah, we'll see what happens. You've seen enough, James Troy and 429 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:56.160 we all have Which team is this team? Yeah? Who are they? 430 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:02.279 I think they are the team that do beat Alabama and took care of business 431 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:06.680 against those teams like Wisconsin. I think that is more of the team you'll 432 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:11.559 see come n C doublea tournament time. Yes, they've had their lumps, 433 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.519 but you look across college basketball right now, there's a lot of teams losing 434 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.519 on the road. And Tommy brought that up in terms of there's a lot 435 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.359 of seniors with an extra COVID year, a lot of grad transfers that came 436 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.799 in, and there's a lot of leadership out there and teams are just deeper. 437 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:27.599 I think this team, at the end of the day, when you 438 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:32.839 have a guy like Caleb Love and Kashaw Johnson, even Umar and Pella that 439 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.559 have been through those battles, you're going to have veteran leadership that's ready for 440 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.559 the n Cuba Tournament pac called tournament. And they might hit their stride at 441 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:48.759 the right time. That might you know that they might not very true, 442 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.519 but I think it's a good sign when you have guys that have been to 443 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.480 a national title game, that have been to the final four and know what 444 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.960 it takes to get to that moment. Because even with Pella and Uma, 445 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.640 they haven't been in those moments where Cayler Love and have Yeah, well and 446 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.920 and and you know certainly that had to be you know, one of the 447 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.799 reasons that Time went after those guys to get some of those guys in there, 448 00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.960 because by all accounts, it looked like they had teams that could go 449 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:15.720 far. His last two teams that could do well in the tournament. They 450 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.480 were high seeds in the whole bit. And yet you know, they certainly 451 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.000 flamed last year and the year before that, you know, lost the game 452 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.880 that everybody thought they should have won. So it's, uh, you can 453 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.359 you can see why he would he would go after guys like that who have 454 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.200 had that kind of experience. Let me ask you, guys, did you 455 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.240 ever with those two teams? But last year seem in particular, I think 456 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.720 that they were tough, that they had to tough at of course, never 457 00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.079 just what toy I continue to say in my thirty five years, they've had 458 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.680 two teams that have been tough in thirty five years to me, To me, 459 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.160 this seems a little bit more tougher than that. How much tougher? 460 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.960 That's that's the question. So I won't go here. I won't go there. 461 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.119 Oh come on, let's if you're tough from one to ten, and 462 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.640 you're tough of a one or two and you've improved to a three, good 463 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.160 for you. Yeah, but okay, is that what you're talking about, 464 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.839 or you're talking about from a two to a seven? Well, well, 465 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.839 the scene is to me, yes, seeding is important, but it's also 466 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.960 about can you play different styles? Can you play different matchups? To me, 467 00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.559 this team potentially, can you can play a slowdown game, you can 468 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:26.599 play a speed up game. You don't have to worry about playing to your 469 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.920 style. You can play different styles because in the tournament, it all comes 470 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.079 down to matchups. So can they match up with more teams across the country 471 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.599 than last year's team? I think so so doesn't. And I'm just being 472 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.519 Devil's advocate because I think this is a team, don't they? The Oregon 473 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:48.640 States, the Washington States, and the Stafford games scare you. With Stanford 474 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.880 for sure in the Oregon State, Yes, Washington State that is again, 475 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.640 that's that's been a buggy boo for many Arizona teams in the past, many 476 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.160 teams across college basketball. That's a really crappy play right over to gore Valas, 477 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.079 I mean, Pullman and uh even though the record doesn't show that they 478 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.440 are tough. But the Oregon State and Stanford I do agree with so. 479 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.359 So, at the end of the day, what seed do you give washed 480 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.640 Let's assume just if they were in the tournament? Who kind of seed would 481 00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:20.359 you give? Questions state? If they make it somewhere between seven and ten. 482 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.119 If they make it seven and ten, so so, wouldn't you think 483 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:27.279 that Arizona would be a seed that's seven and ten nine out of ten times? 484 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.599 If not more sure, sure nine out of time. But it takes 485 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.000 that one right. That word might scares me. That word night scares me. 486 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.079 Troy, I like you a lot. You're one of my roommates on 487 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:44.200 the road. Save your money, man, Thanks Troy for joining us. 488 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:46.279 Have a good one. Guys, all right, thank you. I appreciate 489 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:52.359 you. Uh yeah, that doesn't that If you see golf, you've seen 490 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.240 good golfers and see mediocre golf, well this guy might get out of the 491 00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:01.880 greado might Professional golf in NCAA basketball is wildly different. If if a professional 492 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.319 golfer isn't a bunker greenside bunker, he's getting it out one hundred percent of 493 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.519 But is he getting close to the pin? It depends how great you actually 494 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:15.960 are. That's my point. And I don't know you of a basketball right 495 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.400 now. Joelan already has this as a two seed. You think that's my 496 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.000 default or reputation. I think it's. I think it is because of the 497 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:30.599 quality wins that they do have. It's reputation overall. And then the first 498 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.839 the wins that they had, they tied everybody's attention. Because Joe Lenardi isn't 499 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.640 paying attention to the Pack twelve. No, he knows that. He knows 500 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.440 that all good teams are gonna have games like you and C last night or 501 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.559 Tennessee last night. You of a losing to Oregon State, Washington State, 502 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:51.319 even Stanford isn't an anomaly across college basketball this year, even in the last 503 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:52.160 couple. I get it. I hear you, I hear you. But 504 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:58.920 I agree with Jay. It's it's they. They they compiled some street credit 505 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.119 in member and they haven't wasted it wasted at all. They still haven't. 506 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.640 They still have some of it. Isn't that the last three years of Arizona 507 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:10.519 basket, I mean lasts But today? Do you think that the sixth best 508 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:14.719 team in the country? Yes, you do? Okay, I don't know, 509 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.239 JayR. They could be though, right there's the there's the mighty they 510 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.719 could be. But you can say that about Kansas, you can say that 511 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:22.880 about North Carolina. You can say that a whole bunch of teams. You 512 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.360 can say could they are? They? They could be? Okay, So 513 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.119 Jay, you guys, so you have one hundred dollars in your pocket. 514 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.679 I think they're the fifth or sixth best betting team in the country right now. 515 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.800 Fourteen to one, you're gonna spend one hundred bucks to win fourteen. 516 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.039 I'm putting the hundred on Purdue. I'm not. Oh no, I wouldn't 517 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.960 either, but good let's let's let's talk about after Okay, that's right, 518 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:49.199 all right, okay, you're like our director. Now, all right, 519 00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.519 we'll be right back. We'll take your calls five two zero, four, 520 00:34:52.559 --> 00:35:05.320 one, six, seventy four, forty We'll be right back. And eve. 521 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.280 If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for 522 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.840 nearly forty years. 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If you guys want to 557 00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:44.480 give a quick call five to two zero four one six, seventy four to 558 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.280 forty. So let's see what are the chances of Arizona getting to the final 559 00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:51.400 four, because that's kind of how you're gauged kind of right now, right, 560 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.599 I mean, if Pamila had got to a Final Four. People would 561 00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:57.320 be extremely happy even if they didn't win it. They just okay, what 562 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.239 we got, We got another Final four. We're back, right, wear 563 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:07.119 a blue light again. Love that. So there's five teams and from you 564 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:12.679 a so Purdue plus one eighty, Yukon, Houston, North Carolina, and 565 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.840 Kentucky and then Arizona is plus three sixty to make it to the final four. 566 00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.639 Well, of those teams, who would you put your hundred bucks? 567 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.920 Not on Purdue. Well we'll go to that again because well, Sammy produce. 568 00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:29.519 I'm firing a dart at Sammy right away. Uh, you know, 569 00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:34.440 I see Yukon. I don't know because it's so damn hard to repeat, 570 00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:36.920 right, and you don't want to believe. Yeah, and it's like, 571 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.000 okay, you know, and I'm not gonna say last year was a fluke 572 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:43.440 because they were really good and they were the best team at the end of 573 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.840 the year, but they did not have a great season leading up to that. 574 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:52.679 Yukon seems to me like that ninety eight Arizona team. Are they right? 575 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:57.320 You know? They okay? They you know there? Yeah, but 576 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.159 still it's like they're gonna get into the tournament, They're gonna work what are 577 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.920 the defending champs? We're coming and then somebody jumps up a massive target. 578 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.320 Yeah, so I don't even know who I like. Maybe Houston, you 579 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.079 know, I was gonna say Houston or Kentucky. You know, I think 580 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.119 Kansas said, plus six hundred is a good is a good number to get. 581 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:16.599 You said that, Steve, and I agree with you that that. 582 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.760 You know, uh, Eddy, Kansas at plus six hundred is not a 583 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.760 bad place to get, just to get to the final four. I feel 584 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:28.480 more if I had one hundred dollars dues between Kansas and Kentucky, I would 585 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.639 go with Kansas because I feel more confident in Bill self than I do with 586 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.239 Calipari. Yeah, just historically, But my one hundred bucks would go on 587 00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.039 Kelvin to get back to the funnel four, I'm putting it on here. 588 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:44.519 Houston's playing Arizona, Arizona. That's fine. Three sixty. I think that 589 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:46.360 for a hundred bucks, that gives you three and a half thousand. Yeah, 590 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:50.639 didn't that sound good? That sounds good to me. Sounds pretty good. 591 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.840 I like pulling our money. Yeah, it's it's you know, it's 592 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.480 three hundred sixty dollars a hundred bucks on it a hundred bucks, one hundred 593 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.880 dollars. Yeah, no, yeah, it's a hundred, it's one hundred 594 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.920 thirty six hundred gets you. You get four to sixty back, you get 595 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:09.960 what one of the odds plus thirty three sixty three. Yeah, you put 596 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.880 one hundred bucks, you'll get thirty six hundred. Bad. No, like 597 00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:15.840 three and a half to one. Oh you're you're saying three and a half. 598 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.519 They're three and a half to one, three fifty Oh okay, okay, 599 00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:21.119 I thought it was thirty singing. Okay, I don't know what I 600 00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.119 was thinking. Undred. No, those odds are not well those ads. 601 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.440 So if you want to make a grand or like above, their better, 602 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:30.440 they win. I don't know what I was thinking, God, I do 603 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.320 this for there you do. It's really sixty. I was I was thinking, 604 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.239 what are you talking about? The fourteen hundred? Okay, so that's 605 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.719 what I was thinking. To win it bigger number, so good, but 606 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.559 it's gonna happen. Yeah, So I again perdue at eight fifty. I'm 607 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:51.360 not I'm not putting money on Purdue just because you know why. I gotta 608 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.719 because I would kill myself if not, myself would be very upset with myself 609 00:40:55.360 --> 00:41:00.480 knowing produced history and then putting money. Yeah, you're on the air and 610 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:01.840 I on the ball. Yeah you guys, Richard, how you doing, 611 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.599 Richard? What's the word? Hey? I think my dark horse right now 612 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:13.239 for a final four would be TCU out the Big twelve looking really really good. 613 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.199 Big twelve is stacked up with lots and lots of great teams with I 614 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:21.920 think Arizona needs to get real here right now, and you know, be 615 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.199 thinking about not worrying about Washington State so much in these punky teams because next 616 00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.960 year, you guys are really gonna you're gonna face a baptism of fire out 617 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.159 in the heartland of America, no doubt, Yeah, no doubt. You 618 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.559 know, it's funny. I mean, you know it's gonna be you're gonna 619 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.079 be outsiders trying to break into a league, you know, and you're gonna 620 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:45.519 probably be treated as outsiders. So yeah, well yeah, well watch out, 621 00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:51.800 okay, because Arizona is coming, okay, Arizona, And it's seventy 622 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.159 five hundred to get to win it, but the sixteen hundred to get to 623 00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.199 the final four. Y you know, I mean, if you want a 624 00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.920 good price on somebody, why TCU. Tell us a little about tc and 625 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.119 why you like them. Gosh, I just Jay, I can't just watching 626 00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.719 them. They're really They're deep, tall, strong, fast. They got 627 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:09.239 a really good coach and what is his name, Jamie Dixon. Yeah, 628 00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.559 very very good for basketball team. But you know, you never know, 629 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:17.320 there's a lot of great teams in the Big Twelve. Even Oklahoma can rise 630 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.280 up and play really good right now. So well, that's the lots of 631 00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.800 teams. That's the thing about playing in the league, like, you know, 632 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:27.480 the Big Twelve, right you know, weekend and week out, you 633 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.320 got you got teams and you don't know who's gonna step up and bite you 634 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.719 in the butt and beat you. You know. So yeah, I know 635 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:36.239 I agree with you. I mean, Arizona, you know, the four 636 00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.559 schools coming in are well Colorado maybe a little less because they have some history, 637 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.119 but you're right there are gonna be outside is coming in and fans are 638 00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.159 going to be you know, all over them, and especially with Arizona being 639 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.920 you know, arguably the class of the Pac twelve, you know, coming 640 00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.400 into their league and say, hey, guys, we got Kansas, we 641 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.239 got Baylor, we got Texas Tech, we got Houston, getting Arizona, 642 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.519 get the hell out of here is what they're gonna do. Jack, But 643 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.480 you know what, how about them? How about a mission statement from the 644 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:04.960 U the U of A as they head to the Big twelve, because it's 645 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.679 a similar moment, it's a historic moment. What's our mission? What are 646 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.679 we going to be great? Do we want to be I think we need 647 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:13.920 I think to you, they need to be coming out and saying we're we're 648 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.559 planning to dominate this league. We plan to be the number one team and 649 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:24.239 the champions period asumed. No, it is not you're going to say that. 650 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.800 Hey, rich when I walk into a room, I think I'm the 651 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:32.000 best looking guy in the room most of the time. It's not the k 652 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.159 that would be delusional. But listen, you know no anyway, I'm just 653 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.239 saying this, it's a historical moment. Where's the mission statement? I want 654 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.400 to hear it. It will be No, you're a tough customer, Thank 655 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.280 you, Richard, Thanks Richard, Thank you guys. So you are you 656 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:52.119 going to stay with Purdue? Well, so in the in the betting market, 657 00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.760 like I wouldn't bet Purdue at plus one eighty for the Final four because 658 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.719 it's like the value there is there no like if i'm if I'm, if 659 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.920 I have a hundred dollars, then I would do I'd have separate into twenty 660 00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.559 five and I would take four teams. I would take Baylor, Creighton, 661 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:13.519 I would take in Zaga at plus fifteen hundred, and then last plus fifteen 662 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.960 hundred Mark Few, and I know they're there. They've been very quiet this 663 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.400 year, yes, and that's because they're not a typical mark Few. Great 664 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.480 great team, but come tournament time, I don't think anybody would want to 665 00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.519 play in Zaga and at plus fifteen hundred, put twenty five there. And 666 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.880 then lastly, I mean I would put twenty five on you of a at 667 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:37.079 between plus three fifty and four in the in the game of gambling, that's 668 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.760 called dead buddy, Baby Bundy. All that is dead money. All that 669 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.639 is dead money. With sixty eight teams now going to the tournament, like 670 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:50.159 some of these teams on that have odds might not even make the tournament, 671 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.559 which is nuts and crazy. It's great marketing. I'd like Houston. I 672 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:58.480 like Houston. Whatever you said three sixty the collar higher on the ar and 673 00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:02.400 I on the ball. Hey, good afternoon, Good afternoon, Rick, 674 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.000 Hey, you know, I'm really surprised you had a hard time with maths 675 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.800 after you've got my pocket last night. Well, I guess it's paying one 676 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:16.960 hundred dollars, Bet dakins Man. I got hurt. I got hurt. 677 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:23.119 I'll tell you what was your previous caller about TCU. One thing about the 678 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.239 Big twelve. I've had a chance to watch a lot more of it at 679 00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:32.320 night, late at night, and you got Houston, Texas, A and 680 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:38.119 M. These teams are quick, and they hustle Alabama and there's some other 681 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:43.840 teams in the SEC. They play a lot faster, and they moved the 682 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.519 ball a lot chrisper than I see in the Pac twelve, Junie Arizona, 683 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:52.000 did you see did you see Texas? Did you see Texas Houston the other 684 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:57.719 night? Yes? I did, Houston, very very good. Yes, 685 00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.000 both teams. Yeah, and they're quick. I mean they they move the 686 00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:05.840 ball, they don't hesitate. They get from point A to point B as 687 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.159 fast as anybody in fact. And then that in regard I think they're better 688 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.559 than Kansas is simply because they move a lot faster than Kansas. Yeah, 689 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:22.000 Kansas has better shooters and a better all around team. But those other teams, 690 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:23.920 I'll tell you what, there's no lightweights in the Big Twelve. I 691 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:30.360 don't care. I watched Iowa State the other night against Kansas. I mean, 692 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.960 we're in for some fun next year. And I think that it's gonna 693 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.960 be great for It's going to elevate Arizona basketball because I believe we can compete. 694 00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:45.000 But it's gonna really test their metal. Yeah, I agree, it's 695 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.800 gonna be fun. Rick, all right, I want my money back. 696 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.320 You won't get it. See another day another day. Thanks, Rick. 697 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:58.360 You know, Rick was just trying to touch on something that I you know 698 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.719 that I wanted to touch on. Is that you know, when Arizona gets 699 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:06.159 into the Big twelve and game in and game out, they're playing teams like 700 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.519 that, you know, every you know, every time, that's just gonna 701 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.199 make their game better. You know they're gonna know, wait a minute, 702 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.880 Wait a minute. I didn't. We didn't have to play like this to 703 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:20.199 win the Pac twelve. We have to play like this every day. It's 704 00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.159 gonna take a while. It's gonna take its toll, and it's gonna take 705 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.400 a while for them to realize, for them to realize, wait a minute, 706 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.639 this is a different kind of basketball. But we've been playing no question. 707 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.159 In fact, we had Bruce on yesterday Bruce Pasco. I asked him 708 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:38.079 the question about what about the rotation and Philippe and and the Moroscus. So 709 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:44.920 he asked the question on to Tommy and I will wait for that answer because 710 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:46.199 I think that you're gonna have to go deeper. You gotta go deeper. 711 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:50.480 You gotta go deeper, whether they give you great minutes or whatever, you've 712 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:52.920 got to go because you're gonna get beat up. I mean, I just 713 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.480 think about that. The the n C doua a game two years ago against 714 00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.920 TCU, and just what a brawl that was. Right Arizona came out of 715 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:01.840 that. I mean, it was dicey, they came out, but they 716 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.480 won that game, but that was a brawl. And then they got into 717 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.199 another brawl similar to that two days later and it was just too much, 718 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.480 you know. And but that's how it's gonna be. Be game in, 719 00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:16.599 game out. When you get to the Big twelve, you're gonna have they're 720 00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:22.400 gonna have to play a much more physical, much more demanding, faster game 721 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.519 than they've had to play to beat you know, Oregon State and Washington and 722 00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.199 these teams that they've had to face here and you're out, you know where 723 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.239 the Pac twelve has been more of a of a of a finesse kind of 724 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:38.599 kind of league. You know, I think back to the uh my first 725 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:44.440 year covering covering basket Arizona basketball and the first you know, they're out of 726 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.639 conference games, you know, when they had refs from another league. You 727 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.800 know, they went and played Georgetown and that came at Georgetown's like, Arizona 728 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.599 doesn't know how to play this kind of basketball and they got their asses. 729 00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.719 Kid. Yeah, the same thing happened to him at Illinois, you know, 730 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:01.960 a Big Ten, you know, on the road in the Big Ten, 731 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:08.119 and I'm like, this is not the basketball that Arizona knows. And 732 00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:12.360 then the next year they go off and they open up in the Great Alaska 733 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.679 Shootout and they you know, they beat Michigan and Syracuse. I'm like, 734 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.719 wait a minute, you know, how did that happen so fast? That 735 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.360 they played that that kind of a game. And that's what that that team 736 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.280 showed right away. And well the thing is too, they had some dogs 737 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:29.639 on they had some they had some dogs that love to compete, you know, 738 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:35.000 Sean and Steve and those guys right who who loved playing together. But 739 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.960 except for Steve Kerr, the team the year before was the same team and 740 00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:43.960 they they looked like children out there against George. That tells you how important 741 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.679 he was in terms of even just bonding them together. Well, we had 742 00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:52.000 we had Harvey Mason and in part of the book and I asked him, 743 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:54.639 what's the one thing you didn't want to do. Well, you didn't want 744 00:49:54.639 --> 00:50:00.199 to disappoint Lout and you didn't want to disappoint Steve, you know. And 745 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.880 then you know, stretching that out a little bit, thinking the Oklahoma game 746 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:07.199 in the in the final four, that was a game like you saw the 747 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:13.639 year before, where they were just they were overmatched physically at all the positions. 748 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.000 So let me ask you. Let me ask you this because everyone says 749 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:20.519 this, This is before I came on board to cover the team. Give 750 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:24.880 them. Did they play Oklahoma ten times that year that year? I think 751 00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.079 it goes five and five. That's okay, that's fair. I think it's 752 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:30.880 I think that's fair because everyone said everyone who was the best team in the 753 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:37.760 country then they were? But but but that but that's the way Oklahoma played 754 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.280 and the guys that they had, especially those two guys, Harvey Harvey, 755 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.400 Uh, Harvey Grant was that Harvey Grant was on that team, and Stacy 756 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:52.199 King, Stacey King and then and then uh the movie Blaylock out there Arizona 757 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.280 hadn't seen guys like that all year long, you know. Uh, And 758 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:58.159 they got and they got the hell beat out of them. They didn't get 759 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.360 the hell beat on them, but they were never gonna win that, right 760 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.840 and then and then Steve has his worst game, but they weren't gonna win 761 00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:06.480 that game. And and you know, look, and I think the reason 762 00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.719 Steve got shot the way he was because those are the quickest cards he faced 763 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:13.920 against all season and he was not comfortable shooting the ball out. So, 764 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:20.320 you know, but that's that's what that type of game that they have to 765 00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:22.719 play game in and game now, you're gonna have to get used to playing 766 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.440 that way every game, as opposed to every once in a while like they 767 00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:29.800 do now. I think we're giving the Big twelve a little too much credit. 768 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.320 They're good. Well, it's funny because we'll go back to this on 769 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.519 the other side of the our Brian Peterson, somebody, guys, someone tweeted 770 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.840 about how tough the Big Twelve is, and then Brian Peterson, mister Inside 771 00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:45.599 Baseball, said that like five teams from Arizona have played tougher schedules than any 772 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.760 of them, any of the Big Twelve. I'm not talking about I'm talking 773 00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:53.639 about the physicalness and toughness of a given game, and it's a different kind 774 00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:58.440 of game them. Then they have to play against Washington for not all of 775 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:00.719 them, but yes, most of the that's what I'm saying. Okay, 776 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:07.199 that's fair, but all right, we'll agree to disagree. That's what we 777 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:09.559 have you here. Ye, all right, we'll disagree some more. Okay, 778 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:13.039 we'll come back with breaking at the top of the hour, and then 779 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.920 at in the second segment, we're gonna play the whole Tommy Lloyd press conference 780 00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:20.360 from today, and you'll get to hear where his brain is right now on 781 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:21.559 his team, stick around