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well. Who all that out of the way now, though, Let's get
to the lottery fallout, and I feel like it's just best to go through
this team by team, all fourteen teams that were impacted. We're not fourteen
teams actually, but every team that was impacted by the lottery tail the Orlando
Magic going number one, they get the number one pick. They do need
sort of a transcendent tenpole talent there, so it's great for them if they
have that, and they potentially have two of these players now in Jalen Suggs
and whomever they take at number one. I did catch ship from Orlando Match
a subsection of Orlando Magic Twitter this past week because it's something I wrote.
I said that Jalen Suggs was the only person who should take a priority and
impact your future plans. I don't view Wendell Carter Junior in those terms on
a great contract, had a fantastic year, quality big man. I don't
view Jonathan Isaac there at all. We need to see him play again,
which hasn't happened since the Disney bubble. I do not view Franz Wagner as
that guy. He has spectacular rookie season, He's going to be a very
good player. I had some Orlando Magic fans try and tell me that he
is going to be a top twenty five to thirty player in the NBA.
I just I don't believe that that's when the ceiling's going to peak. AZ.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. He seems like he's going to just
be a fantastic guy who maybe can be the third, fourth, fifth best
player on a really good team, which is really hard to do. By
the way, I don't view that as a tempole talent. I certainly don't
view Mark up Folds as a tempole talent. I was told by Alando Magic
fans that the organization does that's fine. I disagree vehemently with them. They're
going to be limitations on your offense. I don't care how much his mid
range game is improved. It is not elite. He's good at finishing around
the rim, doesn't get there a ton. We've only seen him play in
a handful of games these past two years, so maybe that rim pressure will
be there. The finishing certainly is. I'll give him that. His vision's
pretty good, versatile on defense, but there's going to be limitations placed upon
your offense for someone who is not a good jump shooter, just just period,
and he's not. You know, his mid range looks like there's stuff
that he sometimes mosies into. It's not someone who's creating these explosive looks off
the dribble, not someone who's hitting three is right now getting to the line
of high clip. I think that that's just he's a good player. I
don't think he's bad by any stretch. I don't view him as a temphole
talent. This is all to say who the Orlando Magic take. I've seen
Jabari Smith mocked there a ton since the draft lottery. I've seen Chet home
Groom draft there a ton, and I've seen even a little bit of love
for Palo ben Caro there. I don't know which one they should go with.
You go with chet Holmegrin just sort of looking at the front court talent
they already have there. This isn't a fit need, but it feels like
he is just the bigger swing of the three and also someone who might fit
more easily with the talent they have, So it's not exclusively a fit that's
there. If you really wanted to go with Fit, I think you could
probably make a case that Jabari Smith makes the most sense there. I just
don't think you're at a point with any of your frontline talent where you should
be drafting for fit exclusively, and so you use this pick, use it
on a big that's pretty straightforward there for them. I am curious to see
how this does impact what they do with the rest of their team. You
have Mo Bamba and during restricted free agency, my guests is he's gone.
You can still hold on to Wendell Carter Jr. His salary is he's a
starting caliber center in the NBA, and I don't think that he's His salary
is like fourteen point two million. It's about starting caliber. It's not too
high, and you're also going to have this big coming in on a rookie
scale deal. Whoever they draft, you can so hold on to him if
you want. I'd probably look at moving Jonathan Isaac if there's any team that
is really interested in him, assuming that he's going to be healthy. After
all these setbacks that he has, we've reached a point where there are non
guarantees kicking into his deal based off him failing to meet these playing time thresholds
that were set. I think they have to be open to anything from there,
but you don't. You also don't have to move anyone because you're not
at that point. You're not trying to contend. It doesn't need to be
about fit, needs to be about exploration. I would like to see the
maximize the talent of the guys. They're a little bit more and so if
you're going to have any of these rookie biggs coming in, and even with
Jalen Suggs there, and for people who really want to believe that Mark kel
Folds is the answer, or even just like any of their guards, you
want to have more space and better floor balance around them. And so that
might be why they could gravitate towards Jabari smith Is as well. But I
think that this is great for Orlando's rebuild and they have a ton of If
it sounds like I'm sort of shipping all over what they have, I'm not.
They feel at once like they have a ton of everything, but they
don't necessarily have the centerpiece of something. Except for Allen Suggs, who I
am infinitely high on. I did crucify the Raptors for not taking him and
going with Scotty Barnes. I was clearly wrong there. For Jalen Suggs is
going to be really good. I think he's an all star in the NBA.
I just see it with him. He's going to be someone who should
be at least Lee Gathers defensively for his position when you get to a point
where he doesn't necessarily have to be your only lead initiator or score. And
I'm not even saying you need to be the number two, just someone else
who can help him shoulder that burden and be efficient in the way that they're
doing it. No offense to Colanthony who cooled off as the year went on.
There they have I think one of those guys in Jalen Suggs. Now
they're going to get just based off what people are saying of the top four
players in this draft, they're going to get another one. That's absolutely huge
for them, and I'm just very fascinated curious to see what they do with
the rest of this team moving forward, especially more immediately because of the impact
that this does have. Just looking at their their front corp. Maybe it's
a simple as you let Mobamba walk and you leave the rest where it is,
because we don't know what Jonathan Isaac is at this point. We saw
some dual big lineups with Wendel Carter Junior in there this season as well.
But you know, if you want to play Jonathan Isaac, one of these
rookie bigs and Wendel Carter Junior together, you're looking at maybe fron Z Wagner
at the two minutes. Hey, maybe you go super big like that.
We've seen something similar work in Cleveland with vastly different talent. But yeah,
Orlando getting the number one pick absolutely huge, and they're just their team to
watch because of how many intriguing pieces they have, even if you don't view
all of them as long term keepers. There. Oklahoma City coming in at
number two. Not falling out of the top four of the draft is great
for them. I think you know this has been the other stuff here is
if you're Oklahoma City, you're probably hoping that Orlando goes with Apollo or Jabari
Smith, that you can get at chet Homegren, which just seems like the
perfect fit in Oklahoma City right now. And look caveat being I am a
little higher than shin deep into my draft research at this point, so don't
take my word for this. Is just like everything that they need someone with
defensive player of the year ceiling in the middle. They don't have a true
center there right now or as not a long term one though Mike Muscala is
a placeholder. Derek Favors, who just stopped in the final years contract,
he is a placeholder. Jeremiah Robinson. Earl was absolutely impressed with him what
he did for his rookie season. You don't necessarily want him soaking up as
many reps at the five as he did. And so they get sort of
a true center in their seven one only I think he's twenty years old who
might be able to space the floor. Give me all the poku and chet
Holmegren minutes. I do like that, Oklahomas, that he didn't fall to
like four feet or end up in fourth, because I know that there would
have been just a section of the Internet saying, oh, well, they're
gonna have to take Jay and Ivy and they have Giddy, and then the
whole trade shake gug get, shake, Gilgess Alexander bullshit again would would crop
up. That's also why I like Homegren there with Giddy and Jay, Gilgess,
Alexander, they need they need a big a player that they can play
true pick and pop, pick and roll games with, and he gives both
elements of that, and combined with the room protection that he is going to
be the come out of the room protection he's going to bring on the defensive
side. That being said, if he's not there, and I just because
if I'm only best player available, I really do think that Pollo is going
to end up being the best player of these three long term. Maybe it's
more of a he feels like he has the lower floor of all of them
as things don't pan out, But he is just a matchup, a monster,
a mismatch monster, someone who's almost seven foot the way that he can
handle the ball create his own shot. I don't know how you're gonna guard
the fully finished product of this of this kid who's only nineteen and sort of
fits with the okac Ethos where they're gonna just get, you know, Skew
younger. So if Homebring goes to Orlando, I think Pallo should be the
answer for Oklahoma City there. I could see the case for Jabari Smith,
and I think there are probably maybe people that think that he could, you
know, his offensive skill set through the roof as well. I think Pollo
is gonna wind up being the better finisher. I'm not I'm not really sure.
I feel like Pallo has the chance to be more of a disruptor on
the defensive end. Maybe that's wrong there, but uh, Gerard Smith might
be a little bit more versatile though I could see him guarding more positions.
Uh it's I don't know that you could act absolutely go wrong there. But
they're gonna keep this pick. I'm also really interested to see with the thunder
what do they kind of do with that number twelve pick that's coming over by
way of the Clippers. So we're still going in order here, but we
might as well just tackle the the second lottery pick that they have, they
could you know, is that going to be a draft and stash spot for
them just because they you know, their roster of bodies, it gets high
pretty quickly. And so unless they're planning on making consolidation trades, waiving some
guys, dumping some guys, you're you know, you can only bring You're
only gonna have your your a certain your fifteen active players on the roster leading
into the regular season. Will they go that route? Do they try to
look at use that as a mechanism to move up or something or acquire a
different pick. We've seen Sam Presty you got in the past where he's slipping
a draft pick. There's like in the current year for a future draft pick
for a team that really wants to get into the lottery. I don't know
that they can do anything consequential with it. And you're at two, so
you're not going to move up. If Orlando wants compensation, like say Oklahoma
City wants chat Home Grin or Palo and Orlando is or Joe Barry Smith that's
their guy, that's the highest guy in the draft boards twelve two. I
have a price to pay to jump up the one spot. I probably say
no, probably if he's your guy. I think a lot of people are
just going to view this as between these, even the four players we're gonna
include Jay and Ivy there, They're not going to view it as this huge
discrepancy, and so maybe it would be too hive a price to pay.
I don't see them using it in that way either. And you do look
at when you do get into the cat mechanics of Okse's sheet, they can
create extra rosters possible where they don't have to go. You know, it's
not a problem that if you're going to take in both of these these first
round picks, it's just a concerned moving forward. And if they are,
you know, they're drafting guys to keep them and use them immediately. You're
it gets interesting looking at Okay, well, they're gonna try and get rid
of favors? Are they're going to try and get rid of what Mike Uscalo
who has a team option. He played well enough for them to pick it
up, and they seem like they do want at least his veteran presence there.
Do they sort of short circuit the developmental projects that they have? Are
they out on tail mail? Maldon at all after the Josh Giddy pick,
having Segula Alexander, the emergence of trade Man, do you maybe see what
the market is for Darius Basley who closed the year pretty strong. Probably getting
ahead of myself there, but that's a fascinating element for them this offseason because
they have so many guys. There are a lot of non guaranteed deals and
team options on the teams. Let me make that clear, but Kenrick Williams,
you're guaranteed that salaries. You're picking up Blue Dort's team option. Aaron
Wiggins, Yes, you absolutely should guarantee that salary based off how he played,
and so Darry Favors is already opted in, you start running out of
options there really quickly. I'm curious to see what the roster maneuvering here looks
like because of them having multiple picks in the first round, but they good
that's gonna be used for the reboilt getting number two, and either way,
they're gonna have a big, like a leading big prospect in there. And
I do think that's what they need, and I'm not thinking it needs to
be this traditional plotter. And that's because none of the three guys that we've
mentioned are those types of players. That's just a position they have a need.
I don't even know that you can look at and say, oh,
well, they have just long term keepers on the wings. I'm not even
ready to go that far on Josh Giddy. They have Shay Giler's Alexander like
that is their tent pole rebuilding prospect. If you view Josh Giddy in those
terms, that's fine too. They're both perimeter players guards in the back court.
I don't know that they compliment each other all that well. When we're
going all the way down the line. They could stand and get higher end
wing play. That's no offense to lu Door or Kennris Williams. But then
definitely just on the front line at that five spot. The Houston Rockets,
they should be a team that winds up with one of these three bigs as
well. The leftover one make you feel like it's a pretty easy decision.
Maybe there will be clamoring for them to draft Jade and Ivy. I don't
like the fit with Jalen Green, I just I don't love it. I
think he needs to play alongside someone who's going to be more in tune with
playing off the ball so that he isn't the one that needs to be displaced,
or maybe someone who's going to be more passed first than score first.
And because you want Jalen Green, don't I don't know where I plan with
Jalen Green is gonna lead initiator or what I saw from him over the second
half of the season after the Austin break, whatever you want to say,
I can kind of envision it, but you at least probably want a co
initiator, someone who's on the same level. I don't even know if Jade
and Ivy is that guy. And if you are going to find that guy,
you need him to be the floor general first. And I view Jay
Nivy is just like this offensive monopoly onto himself, which is great if you're
gonna make him the central focus of everything you're doing. I don't know that
the Houston Rockets should be doing that. Are you tilting too far towards drafting
for fit when you should go with best player available. If you think Jane
and Ivy is much better than whichever of the three Biggs is one of the
three Biggs that's left in this spot, then yes, you can absolutely take
him. But I look at Houston and I don't really see them having a
solution upfront long term either. We don't know Uspan Grewbot in Profiles of five
anyway, Alpern Shangoon was fantastic. He's not someone he again is not someone
you plan around the bar for. This is super high. If you have
a chance to take Jabari Smith, Paalo Bancaro or chet Holmgren, you won't
have a chance to. If chet Holgren drops below past second, I will
be shocked. If you the opportunity to get one of those guys, you
take them and you can figure out the rest later. Because I don't think
Shane Goon is someone who needs to shape your future to that extent. We
just don't know. The defensive ceiling of all three of these biggs is going
to be higher than that of Shane Goon's right now. And he did move
a lot better, especially laterally in certain incest in the half court defensively than
I thought for the Rockets this year. He's also just he's not a traditional
shock creator in the sense the table setter for everybody. Hel Yeah, he's
going to be the best passer of these of any like, no matter which
big that Houston could end up drafting, but he's not this like face up
weapon can put the ball on the floor, attack on the deck like that,
and you could potentially get that Jabari, Smith and Palo. If Chet
falls as far, I think he probably gives you a little bit more floor
spacing, and all three of them are just going to give you more defense,
especially Homegrint of course. So I think this is another easy situation where
you just take one of the three bigs that's not left on the board for
Houston. Could they be a team that Could they be a team that wants
to move up at the three spot. No, I'd probably just take the
what's left over there. I would also say it's interesting if they do go
to the big man route. You have Christian Wood floating around there. Now,
he certainly becomes superfluous. What do you do with him? And I
think everyone peg him as a trade candy in the first place. Then landing
at number three sort of solidifies it for me that they're going to be looking
pretty aggressively to move him, and it's look, that's just good business.
He's not super old, but he's entering the final year of his contract,
and you're either unless he's gonna sign an extension now to where you can keep
in a reasonable rate, You're not going to be at the point where you
can justify paying Christian would a bunch of money in twenty twenty three, two
twenty four, and so I expect he and Eric Gordon to be pretty heavily
shocked. Although I wish I was pretty surprised that I thought Christian woul would
stay in Houston pastetrated inline. I really thought that Eric Gordon was going to
be dealt And so look, you have a nice space here now all of
a sudden with Jellen Green, whoever you're gonna draft at at this third spot.
You know, Shangon is good. I'm really Josh Christopher. The confidence
he has on offense is aspirational, and he really is just has like this
gamer motor or workaholic. And you still have these like unknown flyers and on
very high usmen group. But I think he could be a defensive monster.
If you get a chance to pair him with one of these other bigs upfront,
that's going to be something that could be super interesting, assuming he gets
real run. I'm not super high on Kevin Porter Jr. I don't think
he's league guard material, but maybe as a microwave guy who can give you
some tertiary playmaking off the bench, he's gonna be He's extension alms with this
summer restricted free agent. After next season, we could see what they do
with him. Jay Shawn Tate, is he part of the plans long term
when he's entering his own contract here? Who knows. But even the Garrison
Matthews, that's not a very team friendly deal for them. They have a
lot of players who are just good that they can keep, don't It's I'm
not a big fan of timelines, but it's not they don't have you know,
Garrison Matthews and a Jay Shawn Tate even at kJ Martin. If you
don't view them as these sort of long term keepers, they're not going to
screw you to the extent that they're adding unecessary wins to your tally. At
this point, and we know how important next season is for Houston is the
that's the funding year that they don't owe their their first round draft pick.
So so yes, there's that element of the rebuild. It feels like it's
becoming it's coming more into focus, where now you have this top three pick
plus John Green less than two years after training James Harden. That's a pretty
good spot to be. And they're going to be ultra flexible moving forward,
especially if they're you know, you just look at their books, and I
mean as of right now, if we just assume that Eric Gordon is on
this team in twenty two and twenty four, their highest paid player is going
to be Jail Green at nine point nine million. They could obviously add money
off of that, so but that's just how flexible they're gonna wind up being.
I fully expect them. What I'm getting out is to just take the
leftover big from the three top prospects, and then we should probably prepare ourselves
for a Christian Wood trade. And then maybe they segue Shane Good into a
different type of roles at off the bench or see someone that could become a
trade candidate as next season moves forward. The Sacramento Kings at number four their
an interesting proposition. I think the pick here, if you're going best player
available is Jade and Ivy. I can't it's the Kings, don't. I
If you want to talk to yourself into Shaden Sharp, I can't. The
mystery Box. I can't do it. I just like not for the Kings
of all teams. I just you can't talk me into it for them.
I don't love the fit with Jay and Ivy and Darren Fox, especially now
that you have Sabonis there and the offense is going to slow down to some
extent and that's just someone else and he's have the ball in their hands.
I also don't know that Jay and Ivy is good enough. I don't know
enough about him or to what you think his mb you know, his ninetieth
percentile MBA outcome is going to be to say, well, maybe this is
when you start looking at Darren Fox trades. I don't know if you have
Jay and Ivy, Davion Mitchell, Andrean Fox on your team, that's going
to constitute a log jam. I guess you can bring Davy On Mitchell off
the bench, But playing Fox and Ivy together in your back court, I
am that's a lot of speed. Jane and Ivy is super athletic. I
just don't know that I would love to see those two play together. Could
Sacramento, knowing what we know about Sacramento, it would be surprising if they
did shop Darren Fox just because they have this pick, it would mean sort
of pivoting into a rebuild, and they did pretty much the exact opposite by
going after Bill Massa Bonis, who represented them at the pottery talk about peak
cultural integration there. For them, that's the Lotteries, what the Kings are
all about, and they wanted Szibonus to know that. I respect it.
I think you just go with the best player available and figure it out later
if perhaps one of the bigs falls here, which case that makes your job
a little bit easier. All of them could theoretically play with Sabonus, even
though I don't love it. I would view this as though a pretty not
not likely. But this is where you look at the draft order the way
you chok out and say, oh, there might be a trade here because
the Kings have decided just based off the Sabonus trade. To me that there's
more urgency here, that they're interested in winning sooner rather than later, and
so what and who can you get for the number four pick? I s
also people on Twitter floating around John Collins. I think there's probably too much
to give up for John Collins, especially with Sabonus in place. Would you
give up the number four pick for Rudy Gobert? I wouldn't, especially because
Sabonis is already there as well. I don't know what the trademarkt is gonna
look like. Are you gonna give it up for a zach Lavine sign and
trade Brady bo sign and trade. I'm probably not doing that either, to
be honest with you. So I don't even know what that package would look
like. Maybe it's also just a matter of trading down. Just Detroit really
want Jade and Ivy. That's only one spot, but can you get something?
And then if you're the Kings, you're okay with drafting a Keegan Murray
or a you know, maybe you're taking the shade sharp there. I still
wouldn't recommend it for for Sacramento. I don't know, but that could be
an instance, or maybe there's another team that's outside of the lottery or just
you know, further away. I really want Jade and Ivy and you can
get more stuff out of them. You scroll through the lottery and I can't
see a team that's gonna be like, let's go really after what the King?
What the Knicks decide? That's someone who could be our point guard in
the future. It's not quickly. It's definitely not Rose, It's not Kamba,
like the Julius Randola as our primary playmaker. That's just gone to shit?
Is it them? And what can you extract out of them other picks
some of their young guys. Are you're getting an IQ in that? I
don't think you get an RJ. Barrett. I don't even know that the
Knicks would go that route. It seems very the Knicks going to such length
to get younger is not their MMO either. That would be the other option
for the Kings, though. I do think you they are going to be
a team that monitors sort of the trade market for this, whether it's an
issue of trading down or does dust Look every year, it feels like some
player we haven't talked about becomes available who can make a huge difference. I
fancy myself someone who's normally pretty good at spotting those players in advance. I
can tell you right now like I haven't found you know that God does not
exist for me at this moment, and like is it? And even the
ones that you could tell you know, Pascal Siakam's not gonna become available in
Toronto, is what I'm basically getting at. Even if even if af Fred
van Fleet came available in Toronto, you're not going that's that's just not that
it could be a fit with Aaron foxbre giving up the number four pick for
that. But maybe I did think about, was O Gianna Nobi exactly what
Sacramento needs. I don't know. Toronto probably has to include something else in
that deal. Also don't know that Toronto is gonna want to go with the
Jay Nivy route. That's just another team where it's that Jay Nivey six four,
their whole six seven to six nine, six ten model that that goes
entirely against it. So while the Oganna Nobi sort of idea that's something if
I'm the Kings that certainly piques my interest, I don't think that it's something
that's really gonna wet the whistle of Toronto. I still look surprising things happen
all the time. It's also the Kings. They're a wild card here.
I love you Kings fans, but let's just call spade a spade there.
They're fucking roller coaster, turbulent, violent, painful, vomit inducing. That
points too Let's just they do feel like the point where the draft night actually
starts, or where the draft rumors are going to begin. Number five the
Pistons probably disappointment for them to wind up here, to miss out on all
four of those prospects. I don't know who they go with the number five,
Like we're getting out out of my depth here. I would probably go
with Keegan Murray. I don't know if they're going to have the impetus to
do that. Did they look at trading down? Did they look at swinging
for the fences on shade and sharp? You're not at a point where you
can get everyone wants them to get a different type of big. They could
resign Marvin Badley, they have Islaya Stewart, but this isn't the spot where
you're gonna go and get that big. I think the next like highest rated
big on the board, it's just I don't even know who it is.
It's probably Jalen Durn that's probably you're not taking him this high? Is it
a trade pick? If you were going to trade up like you like you
said, if they really want Jay not Y, what do they want to
give up for him? If Houston was really married to just the big that
it has in Shanguna, maybe in christian Wood, and you know, let's
let's say that they're not as high on the remaining big like that was the
one who was at the bottom of their board. They don't want Jay Navvy
for Jalen Green either. Could they look at moving down the two spots and
take whoever they wish? They're sure, but I just don't see the real
opportunity to move up unless you're gonna do business with Sacramento, who I think
it's probably gonna want more of a you know, is Jeremy Grant? Like,
are you giving up Jeremy Grant to jump the one spot and get Jay
and Ivy? There are other moving parts involved there as well. I don't.
I don't know. I honestly, I just I don't know. But
I think what I do think this the impact that this has on Detroit is
it opens up. I'm not trying to be that guy, but about one
point six million in an additional cap space, maybe one point five however you
want around there, that's going to get them to like twenty eight point three
twenty eight point four million in cap space, assuming that they you know,
guarantee certain deals, pick up certain team options, some player options get exercised.
They could very easily get to is what I'm getting at a max for
DeAndre Ayton in restricted free agency his first year max, and this goes the
same for Miles Bridges. If you wanted to vote to vote, there is
thirty point five million, so they can get there fairly easily. Maybe you
would be assigned in trade anywhere anyway, Basher compensation gets really weird with that
though, I won't go into detail with it, just because I don't want
to bore you with that, but just it's effectively hard and sign in trades,
especially the ones guys coming off their rookie deals, to make the salaries
work. Because the salary, says the quick synopsis, it counts as a
lesser number to the team that is signing the players as their outgoing salary,
but the incoming salary for the Pistons would still count as thirty point five million.
That's what makes it tough to work, not impossible. But again,
if Phoenix doesn't want to match a max offer sheet for eight and the Pistons
feel like the team that looms largest now because Orlando has cap space, they're
going to get one of those bigs. They're just gonna get that their choice
from there. There was talk about Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City from LOAJ going
after DeAndre Eton. They technically could still do that, but they don't have
cap space to begin with. That's why they were sort of fascinating. They
have that dead money from Kemba Walker on the books, it's about twenty seven
point four, and so to build around that with shake Gil, just Shake
Gil, just Alexander. I don't know why I can't say his name this
podcast. His thirty point five million dollars salaries is kicking in. I don't
like you could clear money, but to get to another thirty point five is
just almost impossible. To have to be the assign and trade, and that
gets really difficult. You're willing to you have shake Gil just Alexander and assign
and trade for DeAndre and absolutely not. Maybe you're willing empty or pick Cachet,
But Phoenix isn't necessarily going to be interested in that. I wouldn't think.
Maybe Sarver is for the immediate financial savings, but they're not going to
be in love with that deal when they're trying to optimize what's left of the
Chris Paul window, which we can only assume is not that not that long
or going to be open. So and then yeah, Houston was never going
to be in that whatever. So you have one team off the board that
could go after him or the Spurs gonna want eight and maybe they're a team
that could get to the cap space if they wanted to. Memphis is another
team, but they can only get to about a little under twenty million,
and that's if they just get rid of key players. It's not going to
be them. The Pacers dropping down, we haven't gotten to them yet,
so trying to spoil that too much there, that's really it though. Now,
so you've almost you've lost a DeAndre eight and soon or maybe you've gained
one in Portland and Indiana. And I just I don't use San Antonio is
an eight and suitor. Perhaps I'm perhaps I'm wrong. They are Spurs Stranger
free to correct me. I think that this the way that the draft lottery
played out, really makes it more likely that we see the Pistons linked to
DeAndre eight. And I know a lot of people like Miles Bridges there,
I just the athleticism around Kade. I get it and then someone obviously like
a local kid. Effectively, I totally understand the interest, and he's someone
who's diversified his offensive portfolio. I just don't necessarily love the fit, especially
if you have to max him to get him out of Charlotte, who has
every intendive to just pay him whatever after not dealing him. And I don't
know which route they go with the actual pick this is. I think they're
the team that gets the biggest blow here when you're looking at that, because
they are such they could have used any of the four guys that are going
to be ahead of that number five spot. I would go Keegan Murray Personally,
I don't think they're gonna want to. I don't think they're just they're
not gonna want to that route. Knowing the bigger swings that the Pistons take,
they feel like maybe they're a shade and sharp destination the Pacers at number
six. They're a team that's hurt by this as well. You were certain
they were certainly hoping to be in the top four two. I don't know
who they take here at all there? Do they Are they a team?
You know? Are they a team that could think about trading this pick.
If you're you have Tyrs Aliberton, who's already really good. Now you have
Miles Turner, because you bring back to j Warren, you have Rogged and
Krista wart Day was already a big part of the rotation as a rookie.
I don't think they moved this pick. That would be such a big move,
would be wildly out of character for them. And I know they did
just tank and move the bonus in the first place. That just felt more
like a placeholder move. That being said, mark Stein did report that they're
probably gonna trade Malcolm Brogden, and so perhaps they're open to anything. The
flip side of that would be, if I'm going to trade Brogden, it's
probably just to continue getting younger, and so why would you move the number
six pick. But if you're interested in returning to the playoffs immediately and you're
the Pacers, that number six pick is a pretty big trade asset to this
point, I would I would think it's more like there's a chance they don't
do any of these things. But if you told me they're either going to
move Myles Turner or their number six pick, number six pick, I'm going
to say that they're moving the number six pick. I would keep it for
them as well, just to add another youngster potential building block alongside Tyrese Haliburton
and Christo. Weren't they at minimum and you don't even need to move Myles
Turner. But the fact that this didn't end up in the top four in
sort of a primary centerpiece spot I do think opens them to some more possibilities.
They do need to shore up the wing rotation, and that's something that
they could do. I mean, whether it's Shane Sharp, whether it's Keegan
Murray, whether it's you know, ben Nick Mathin like they have, they
have guys that they can go with here who can maybe be a part of
their their big picture haul and help solidify just a ring rotation that is absent
truer wings. I would say that would be fair to say. Maybe you
just think that they're going to sign TJ. Warren. He'll be absolutely fine,
But that's there are players that they could absolutely use here. So I
don't find them, not that I don't find them very interesting. I just
they don't feel like a wildcard to me. It feels like they're gonna take
maybe the best perimeter player available in this spot, I would I guess the
thing that would surprise me a little bit. They don't seem like a team
that would swing on Shane and Sharp. That's the one thing I would say,
maybe I'll be proven wrong there. So another team that's probably you know,
they fell. They were in the position to get the number six pick.
They ended up at number seven. They mean the little look pissed or
sad when it happened. The Portland Trailblazers, I don't know what they do
here. I'm not even gonna spend time going like, yeah, they can
draft some wings and guys who help with their defense. Maybe if they're looking
for a center replacement John Duran here is wouldn't be an egregious reach. I
don't think I think they look at moving this pick. I would look at
them as a team that maybe his linked to Rudy Gobert should he hit the
trade market. I know it does seem more likely that the Jazz Do you
want to run it back? People are already saying the choice is gonna get
the seven pick for Jeremy Grant. That is an abject disaster. If the
Blazers do that, Jeremy Grant headed in to a contract a year you're don't
need to extend. You have to extend him at the four years in one
hundred twelve million that he could command. Why else would you give up such
a premo pick? And then what are you? Efrey Simons, Jeremy Grant,
Yusef Nurkics, Josh Hart and Damian Lillard. It's it's an okay team
with depth that's like, some of it's intriguing, some of it's not.
I mean, Justice Winslow had some nice moments for them. Keim Johnson looked
super interesting. Nots little when he's healthy has made some place for them.
Greg Brown the third. I think as we're recording, this is probably you
know, jumping through the roof of some building. I just don't know.
It would feel like it would still feel like a regressive team compared to what
they had last year, or should have had if they never gotten injured,
or what they thought they had and you jumped through a lot of hoops to
get there, and just to not get that much better. Maybe the roster
is a little bit more balanced in that sense. They probably need to hope
that a different type of star becomes available. And again, like I said,
it's really hard to pinpoint who that could be, just you know,
going through all these different teams. You do have a number seven pick,
though they just feel like an inevitable Rudy Gobert team. The other thing they
could look at is is this a pick if the Pacers are really looking to
do things over there are probably mechanisms that you could use, especially because Portland
has a huge trade exception that people build as the Jeremy Grant trade exception.
Miles Turner Malcolm Brogden like a sort of a mega deal here. Those are
two players that would help Portland. Malcolm Brogden's sort of that third league guard.
Or is it you know, is it just a matter of making a
three team trade. We are giving up number seven, but you're getting Jeremy
Grant and Miles Turner back. I don't know, but you would if you're
not going to go the consolidate super consolidation ro out of getting an actual star,
but maybe attaching stuff to the number seven pick. I'd be curious if
you offered the number seven pick for Rudy Gobert as the framework. I know
other schallege we need to be involved. Would they do it just because of
what we've seen the playoffs. John Hollinger of The Athletic wrote about this about
how we're sort of veering towards spaseball, where it's biggs who have the ability
to just to stretch the floor and almost defend like wings, and so that
neutralizes Rudy Gobert in a sense. It's not playing small, it's play actually
small. It's biggs that are able to play what we've deemed a smaller players
game. I'd be curious would I give up the number seven pick if I'm
Portland's Rudy Gobert. No. I think that they should be rebuilding based off
how they acted this past season, and to not wind up with the first
round pick in this year's draft after moving to Norman Powell, Robert Covington,
larn NaNs Year and CJ. McCollum, that's a that's a failure to me
as well. I'm very interesting what Cronin does now that he's the permanent GM
there, how he maneuvers about this roster. You know, we're only talking
about a one slot drop, but I think this pick was always going to
be in play. I don't think that changes now. If anything, I
just think it's more in play. I don't know if they're going to wind
up settling though on what they're getting back, And I just want to be
clear, I don't think Jeremy Ant is the player that should be your primary
target, your only return, the crown jewel of your return if you are
giving up this pick. The New Orleans Pelicans another trade candidate here. I
think I do kind of like the idea of them landing with Keegan Murray and
you have you have him. I don't know if he's gonna fall this farm
my guests would be no, but having him and Herb Jones and Jose Evarado
on the same team and Traymer the third, I favor it. If not
him, maybe Benejus Mathurin feels like that's a player who could really help them.
He would elevate their their three point shooting and maybe gives you like a
three and D archetype, someone who's has more. You know, he's not
gonna put as much D in it, but he's gonna actually have the three
ball a little bit more than a Herb Jones did. So they are a
team though, that could absolutely trade this trade this pick. They are looking
at a team that just gave the Phoenix suns hell in the first round of
the playoffs. I know Phoenix was banged up. Hey, the Pelicans didn't
have Zion Williamson. They're getting him back next season. Like that's that's huge.
Like you have CJ. McCollum, Brandon Ingram, Jonas Valanciunist, Larry
Nance Junior, Jackson Hayes came live. You're gonna get Kyra Lewis back.
There was the Trey Murphy, the third emergence towards the end of the year,
Herb Jones, Josy Alvarado. There's a lot of now talent on this
team, and so can you use this pick plus other salary to improve I
think you can, and you should absolutely consider it. You're in position to
do some pretty funky things because you have these primary ball handlers in place,
effectively, all of whom can play off the Zion, which is probably the
hardest player to play off the ball of Brandon McCollum up, Brandon Ingram and
CJ. McCollum. At the same time, you can use him as a
ball screener if you want. And so all three of those guys can play
off the ball. All three of them can sort of be the primary engine
of your offense. That opens you up to use a lot of different things
everywhere else with the rest of your rotation. I've received pushback by saying I
think Miles Turner is a better fit for this team than Jonas Valanciunist in a
vacuum Jansounci, this might be the better player. I think Miles Turner gives
you more of what you need. I think he's underrated as a defend like
a mobile defender. He's an elite rim protector. He's gonna his three point
volume is gonna supersede that of Unos Foundctunist and definitely at Jackson Hayes. I
get the concerns as rebounding. It's not I understand that it's not a no
brainer. I'm also not using this pick to give up my like I'm number
eight for Miles Turner in a contract year. I'm not doing it in a
vacuum. But the framework there is that something to consider. I also understand
me because you have you owns found Tunis and even Jackson Hayes and and even
Ziah Williamson at the five units in your back pockets, you really want to
expend such a big asset on a big man then, and so you would
rather go that is there another sort of point of attack guy, probably more
perfectly a bigger wing that'll space the floor and unlock some of these different lineups
and help improve our shooting. Again, it's a situation where I don't know
who the target should actually be. That's something we can get into detail later.
But is there a team that's thinking about a pivot? I mean you
immediately think of Utah, and there's just you know, I don't know that
New Orleans shouldn't have any interest in Donovan Mitchell. It shouldn't have any interest
in Regal Bear. That would be a that would be a free and wild
fit. So you go through what could potentially be available to them, and
maybe it's just not worth. Maybe you hang on in this pick and again,
like I said, try and just bolster and augment your your current perimeter
rotation, just because I feel like the trade market is going to be busier
than normal. But there could sort of be this like shortage of stardom and
I don't know that is this a pick that you want to trade and parlay
it into like two or three rotation players depending on who you're giving up.
Is it so valuable Where it's the Devonte gramdial, it doesn't look all that
hot now, So you're attaching him to something and with you know, a
Kira Lewis maybe, and you're you're getting someone the super intriguing back. I
would just expect them to explore all sorts of avenues here. I know that
even DeAndre and his name is a cropped up in circles. And if you
were using number eight as the set piece and any sign and trade, no,
and I'm not doing it, And you have to go through too many
hoops to create the cap space necessary, I wouldn't even think it's It's really
not that possible. You have Zion Williamson for thirteen point five, then you
know CJ. McCollum and Brandon Ingram combined are making about sixty five million dollars,
so you're into seventies right there. You're gutting a big portion of your
roster to get to his thirty point five million max. And that would just
given the number of players you would have to move, that's just so many
hoops to jump through. And again I I'm trying to rack my brain for
maybe players that can trade for I don't hate Jeremy Grant of New Orleans.
Again, the number eight pick is so much to give up for him,
and that's where you get into this, all right. I could definitely see
players being available, even John Collins maybe worth the number eight pick, but
like, is that someone you want playing alongside Zion and then you have Joan
his found tunas already that doesn't Collins is probably close. He's a one point
five position player. I don't think he's as one position as some of the
other players we've seen come through the NBA at points at the same time,
that would be a hard fit, and he's one of the better players that
I think you can envision teams trading over the off season. So unless the
Bucks are also going to pivot and be like, hey, we're getting rid
of Chris Middleton, which would just be just absurd on their part, and
that's an opportunity like that arises. I don't know what there's gonna be for
New Orleans, but they at a point where I think they can start taking
some win now swings. And look if Toronto was sitting there and they're willing
to give up Ogian and Obe with number eight, and they think there's like
a wing in this area that that fits their need, and you can attach
some other stuff here to get Og that is the player man him, Herb
and Jose Alvarado within the same rotation. That defense could be absurd. I
get you'd still probably worry about the floor spacing, but and look, I'm
not saying the Raptors should get rid of Og. There was some stagnancy,
it felt like when he was healthy on offense this year, and I think
just having Scotty Barnes, Pascal Siakam, Fred van Fleet, even gart Trent
Junior or to a lesser extent, has sort of complicated his role there long
term. So I'm just gonna continually throw his name in there just because I'm
his future seems so muddy. I don't think, and I don't think New
Orleans now they have CJ. McCollum should or needs to be a Bravey Beal
or zach Lavine destination if it gets to that point, and they definitely don't
need to be. Forget Miles Turner and free simes. Like if you're looking
through any restricts free agents, including eight, and that's not on the table.
It'd probably be a smaller move. Or maybe it's they're moving back while
picking up a player in the rotation of this draft and shout out to the
Lakers for giving the Pelicans this pick. Again, the Lakers won a championship.
Pat Bev will point out the Bubble championship, but you all know on
this podcast, I think Pat Bev is insufferable at this point. But San
Antonio Spurs, I'd be shocked if they traded this pick at number nine.
I don't know who they're going to draft, or they an AJ Griffin team?
Do they take if he's still on the board. Did they go with
the Benedict Mathin? They have like this log jam of swingman and wings?
Though? Do they go joll Durin if they don't know that jacolm Peartle is
long for them? He is entering the final year of his contract or is
he have two lefts? He has the final year of his contract at nine
point four million. Man, that dude making less than mid level of money
is wild. I think they just go, you go best player available here.
They're in a weird spot though, unless you view jan Day Murray as
best player on a contender material and maybe you do. Is this the spot
where they can even get that second best guy? Do you think that Devin
Vassell or Josh Primo or Keldon Johnson's going to be that guy? I don't
know. I would probably been against a number two on a contender. They're
in this weird spot. I'm not telling them to blow it up, but
they do kind of feel like they're right for do we go the consolidation route
or is they're more tearing down to do? Here you get into the teardown
discussion, it's like, well, you're starting to say some pretty reckless things
here. Are you talking about Murray because McDermott Richardson even peartle that doesn't count
as tearing it down? And are you really selling this early on a Keldon
Johnson or Devin Vassell. I expect this first to probably just chug along here.
Do they maybe take a bigger swing at the nine spot just because they
have the flexibility to be okay? And they're really in the market for a
blue chip building block And I don't like nine is not the spot they were
typically going to get that at what conversations trade conversation would they try and wedge
themselves into though they do have I think it's they have three first round picks
in this draft. Just absolutely something up, so they have at least two.
I couldn't remember it was three or not. I'll check my notes as
I'm going through this. Yeah, they have three, so they could do
some consolidation. Like they a team that could move up, you like,
offer all three of those twenty five, twenty and nine. I don't.
I don't know how far are you're gonna move up, which teams are gonna
entertain that offer, But it's something that they could consider. I would.
I just don't. I think they're going to be rather uninteresting on draft night.
They could be built for consolidation trade. They do have sort of the
young talent plus the pick equity to get involved if a star becomes available.
I would absolutely love Zachafine or Rady Bill there. If either one of them
shows an inclination will leave their current team, Do the Spurs get involved?
Maybe? Other than that, they'll probably I have to go with the best
player available or the highest ceiling player available. Ten. The Wizards another interesting
team just because they're just they're at ten. What does this mean? Can
they draft someone who's an instant fit alongside alongside Bradley Bill. And yes,
this is a team that has to consider fit because they've decided they want to
rebuild around Bradley Bial that they're going to maxim out and if they're not,
does that start trickling out around the draft and how does that change their approach?
So I think you probably need to go they need another guard in there.
I don't think this is the spot to get it to get him,
excuse me, so you probably I would just default to they have wings available
and heavier supply. But I would just default to the wings again, whether
that's going to be a j Griffin, is it going to be again at
Benedick mathin a Jeremy Socket Like, it's just I would go with one of
those players, or even a Dyson Daniels. And you do have Kuzma entering
a contract year continus called a pope non gear or teeth salary. I would
expect him to pick it up. He's entering a contract year. We have
Denny Avdia, you have Ruy Hatchamore. We don't really know what he is,
but he's entering a contract year. He's extension knowledgeable, right now,
there could be guys that are on the way out, or if you wish
to make sort of a consolidation trade, we so him like a big swing
with christops Porzingis. I think that's the rout you go. If you're watching
it, just draft the wing, figure out the rest later. They tend
to be plug in play anyway. Do you need another creator on this team
outside of bradleybal I do not think that creator is on in the rotation right
now. If you think it's Kyle Kuzman's continious called loow pope, I mean,
bless you, and look, it's not Chris stops porzing Is, Like
we don't need to see Chris osporzing Is create a ton for himself. Is
the third or fourth like level creator. If you need to throw the ball
to him there, fine. I trust his face up game probably more than
I do his post up game. But the Wizards, if you are committed
to continuing with the beal, I think that the move here is to just
draft someone who can play right away and it's going to be a fit.
And I think you just do that on the Wings because that seems like the
smartest bet given the current functional landscape. In the NBA, the Nicks at
number eleven, they're probably going they're gonna they're gonna trade this pick. I
don't even know who they draft. Is it a wing, it's gonna be
a wing or a big here they're they're big men, rotation. It's just
all sorts of weird. Mitchell Robinson entering free agency Newryland's noell not a long,
long term answer. He's entering what's technically the final year of his deal
because there's a team option on season number three? Do you view Jericho Sims?
Is this this answer? At the five? Obie topp And is not
a five? Julius Reynolds not a five. They don't like to play either
of them at the five. I wouldn't use this pick on a Jalen durn
And maybe Charlotte hopes that as well. This just feels like inevitable. They're
gonna move this pick for fucking I don't even know. Like Terrence Ross,
I think it was more from the NBA podcast told me on Twitter with it.
I don't know who they would actually move to stick forward, it feels
like that will very much be in play. I don't know if they're gonna
be a team that can go star hunting if you find out that Zach Lemide
or Bradley Belle wants to come to your team. I've been pretty pro that.
I think the Knicks should really take a step back, reset offload a
ton of these veterans, beginning first and foremost was Julius Randol, Evan Fournier,
and go from there, just because those are the two guys that have
guaranteed money extending beyond next season on their deals. The Knicks don't think like
that, and maybe some player becomes availablehere it makes sense to throw all your
eggs in the basket. I don't view Donovan Mitchell's that player. I want
to make that clear. Damian Millard is that player. I think he's probably
too old to treat him like that player, and that makes the Knicks Knicks
fascinating. Or you're willing to move number eleven independently or with only a few
other pieces as part of a trade for a nonstar ton of it probably depends
on who's available number eleven for Jeremy Grant. If that's the framework you're you're
looking at, that's something that's at least I think you can talk yourself to
considering, I don't think you're gonna love it with the idea of having to
pay Jeremy Grant and it feels like sort of an aimless move. He at
least does fit some of the stuff that they need, which is they need
more defense on this team, and maybe look Quentin Grimes, Deuce McBride,
they give you hustle there. RJ. Barrett got a lot better in the
year two. I would say it's mostly later on in year three he was
overtaxed there. Maybe cam Reddish is something, But I feel like the Knicks
are gonna prioritize more proven performers because that's what they've always done, and whatever
big name ambles onto the market, they're invariably going to be linked to.
I expect this pick just to be tossed around a bunch. If I had
to pick a position or area of me that I think they're gonna focus on,
they're probably steering clear of a guard I would I'm gonna bet on a
wing. I'm gonna bet on a wing. I could see them going with
a big in jail and durn But I aside from that, like your Mark
Williams, maybe who knows. I'm gonna guess that they go with a two
or three, someone that they can sort of pair with RJ. Barrett on
the perimeter and will be more of a defensive specialist than not. After number
eleven we have Okay, see at twelve already did them Charlotte, they should
probably draft a big or this is a pick that I would expect to be
involved in trade talks as well. They remain a Miles Turner team destination.
If he is going to be traded. You have number thirteen. You have
number fifteen as well, so they can move both of those after the draft.
Technically the Steppian rule is it matters. I want to make that clear.
But like when you have picks coming this year that you can't technically trade
right now, you can still just move them after the fact is actual salaries.
So are they going to be a Mark Williams team? Are they gonna
go be a jail and during team? I don't know. They have Kai
Jones sitting here. Maybe they believe in him, and so you don't want
a draft a big. I'm not saying you plan around having Mason Plumbly resigning
Montrez Harold, but it does start to get if you draft another big.
So I guess you don't believe that Ky Jones is the answer, which is
fine if you're gonna make that admittance, I could get a little walky if
you're just drafting here, I would think you need to be sure that that
center can play for you right away. Otherwise I'd like to see them go
wing here because their wing rotation is just kellyer Bridge Jr. He's a wing.
I guess you would call me Miles Bridges is ann wing. PG Washington
is not a wing. But I don't know what James bok Knight is.
He feels like more of a swing man than when you watching the games.
So Cody Martin and kellyer Bridge JI like those are your wings. There's Gordon
Hayward two. He doesn't seem like he's long for this team. It'd be
classic Knicks to give up the number eleven pick in a Gordon Hayward trade.
By the way, but anyway, I digress. Can you use this to
get a big though? So Rudy Gobert is available, maybe click Appela will
be available in Atlanta. If on Ka Congo is available in Atlanta, that's
someone I'd be looking out. If shit, if John Collins is available,
I'm probably not looking at that if I'm keeping Miles Bridges, but click appela
On, Yaka Congou, Rudy Gobert, and Miles Turner, Like those are
the bigger name bigs that I think we can all envision hitting the market.
I don't the voods becomes available in Chicago, that's just a you steer year
of that. If you're Charlotte. Does Charlotte get involved and then DeAndre and
Sez they don't have cap space but would have to be assigned and trade That
gets really finicky. I don't know that, Like why is Phoenix gonna want
in Cord Like, let's just use the you have to figure out the math
and this later. But Gordon Hayward and the number eight, excuse me,
the number thirteen pick like just for that. This feels like more of a
Miles Turner situation, Like number thirteen and fifteen, She's like great framework to
like between thirteen fifteen, James Book, Knight, Kai Jones, it's just
and salary filler. It just feels and even PJ. Washington like it just
feels like that would be the move that Charlotte should be the most likely Miles
Turner destination if he is available. Otherwise, will they draft a big?
I think they should draft a wing, And there seems like there's going to
be plenty of wings still available in this spot anyway, So to me,
if if I'm them, you might as well go that route. This wouldn't
be something I'm curious about, and I wouldn't give up the pick for this.
And maybe he's not a good enough rebounder. Maybe you don't want him
playing in a on a team that's looking to run. But he's playing on
a team that likes to run. Now a Brook Lopez like justin Milwaukee,
sort of looking at their books, they have to resign pat Connet him.
They've just seen what sort of happened, and they'd rather beef up the four
spot, knowing that the Jannis is sort of the biggest player on the court,
or the Yannis as the day fact, the five day fact, they'll
bike, whatever you want to call it is the future for them. Is
that a name you look at if it's not, if it's not costing you
this pick. I was just a sort of another stop gap. Maybe you're
drear drafting a big here, and then you're just gonna go get Rolo was
sort of a more fitting stop gap, someone you could throw the ball too
in the post. He's gotten away from his three point volume, but he
could still shoot it, knows how to hang around the dunker spot, and
he looks he's still a pretty good defender. I don't think he's gonna anchor
anything, but he'd be He'd be an upgrade over Mason Plumley. Just random
food for thought. I'm not saying Horns fans, please just want to make
this clear. I'm not saying that he should be like this team's primary target,
like as a as a trade target heading into the offseason. If you
want to sign someone, there's Mitchell Robinson, Nick Claxton are sort of staring
you right in the face there. Wendell Carter Junior would be interesting if or
Lando decides that they want to move on from him, or maybe you look
at signing Mo Bamba. If Jonathan Isaac was healthy, I know he doesn't
play a ton of five, but that dude. Pair him with Miles Bridges.
You have a lot of athleticism there, and I think Isaac could do
a fine job defending the five. Might really have something. The other day,
of course he would look at it. Rashawn Holmes, he's okay on
defense. I think he's probably underrated for his mobility in his room protection.
When I give up number thirteen, no number fifteen, maybe maybe can we
get Justin Holidays part of that deal or something or just something else from Sacramento
or maybe even not Rachada Holmes is still in one of the most underrated He's
still one of the most underrated players in the league. He's on a really
good contract. If you're a team, I would do number fifteen for him,
And yeah, I think as like the primary framework there, I would
absolutely consider if you need to extract something else, someone else you could try
and like Justin Holliday's fine, what are you giving up as part of this?
I mean, look, the Kings could use a Gordon Hayward, But
is Gordon Hayward in fifteen for Rashawn and you can't, Look, you can't
Maybe a math work here is impossible for Sacramento. They're like a team that
doesn't have cap space, but it like it doesn't have a meaningful cap space.
We could techinically have cap space depending on how they use their books.
So are giving up Terror's year in that deal, I wouldn't give up Kelly
Uberdy junior in fifteen. It feels like a lot for Rashaun Holmes. I'm
not gonna lie because if Ubery might be especially with Cody Martin Martin Hitney restricted
free agency, he could be your best wing defender. But Shawn Holmes would
just be a name to keep an eye on there. Of course, if
the Spurs we're thinking about giving up Yaka Purtle and they're like really trying to
hit reset there, that's absolutely something that you could look at. And I
already mentioned Riego Bart. The final team, the Cleveland Cavaliers, who we're
pretty good this year relative expectations and definitely relative to all the injuries that they
suffered. They just need they need a wing, probably one who can shoot,
and if it gives you secondary shot creation, that's great, But they
need like an actual wing who's an offensive upgrade I think over Isaaco Coro.
They won't be a defensive upgrade over Isaaco Coro. They could almost I know
a lot of people I think have built at least at what I've seen from
the twitters to build them is maybe a good Johnny Davis team so that's something
to maybe maybe consider there. I don't know if, like, I don't
know how much Creedans you can give to that. They could also look at
moving this pick because of the timeline that they've sort of slingshot themselves into.
Since Darius Garland and Jared down are so good, Since Evan Mobile's already transcended
on defense, you have Caro Silvert. What are you doing with context and
entering restricted free agency? You have a Coro on this team. There was
the Kevin Love resurgence. Does that make Larry market inexpendable already? You could
do some really interesting things. Again, I don't know what wings are available
here. This is a team though, that could maybe talk themselves into going
after Jeremy Grant really lean into the defense of it all salary plus number fourteen
in a German Grant style trade. I don't think Detroit is gonna have interest
in the Colin Sexton sign and trade. I'd be a little bit floored.
There would you do? Oh, Coro and fourteen for Jeremy Grant. It's
a great question. I'm just gonna throw I'm going to throw it here to
the room at large. It feels sort of like a tad Rich maybe because
of the mystery box appeal of the number fourteen pick, but Jeremy Grant,
I think it's important. Note is a pretty massive upgrade offensively over Isaac oh
Coral. The you do just you have to get into and there needs to
be other money here. I want to make that clear involved, But you
have to think about paying him. I don't know. That's just a name
that brings to mind here for me. If you're going to keep the pick
though draft draft and wing hope that he can sort of upgrade your half court
offense specifically, you are entering weird times where Caro Silvert's extension knowledgeable, Colin
Sexton restricted free agent. What if you lose one or both of them over
the next two years, and even if you keep one, even you keep
both, there's no guarantee that like just because I don't think those three players
fit on the floor. You could certainly try it against certain teams. I'm
probably not trying it in high doses, especially because you know they've skewed big
Like that's the model that worked really well with Evan Mobley and Jared Allen.
I just wouldn't expect to see a lot of those three guard type units and
carousel vert isn't wing enough for me to classify him as one. I would
go with a wing that you hope and kind of even if you're taking sort
of just a swing here that can help your shooting. Does he need to
put the ball on the floor. I mean, he doesn't even need to
be a creator, just someone who's gonna upgrade your shooting, and functional shooting
is always better. Maybe he can. I'll be out with your rebounding because
they had some really weird rebounding just stretches with this team for a team that
did have Jared Allen and Evan Mobley. So that might also be why there
are those that love Johnny Davis for the Calves, because I do know based
on the scouting reports that he's that I've read, he's supposed to be a
really good rebounder. I don't know with the Calves like could do beyond that,
though You're you're you're with the number fourteen pick and you have the incentive
to maybe do some weird things there, but you need the right players to
become available. And this is the issue we've continuously run into, is like
you the players that are available the ones that you want, they either don't
exist, they're not coming on the market, or you're not giving up number
fourteen to get like Marcus Morris Senior. That's just not something that you're you're
going to do. So like how out has it led on DeAndre Hunter?
Is there something there? And can teams get involved? Here? Doesn't Land
even care about getting a pick? Because now if DeAndre hunters on the table,
there's like every team should just be like looking like in the you know,
the Spurs at number not like is that maybe that's too much to give
up, But like the Pelicans looking at DeAndre Hunter, maybe not. He
really flailed this year, So I don't know. I would expect the Calves,
though, to do their due diligence in shopping this pick just because they
are on It doesn't need to be a window timeline. But you've paid Jared
Allen, you're good enough to hang around the playoff rockets in the East all
ready. I think you continue down that path and if you don't repeating myself
here, take a wing and see if you can integrate him into the rotation
given minutes off the bench next year. And that's also the luxury of having
so many bona fide NBA players in place right now, is that whoever you
draft can come along more slowly. They don't need to be baptized by fire.
Maybe it's sort of a tramer for the third situation, New or Leans,
where he didn't see the court consistently for so long, came on and
boom, it just clicked for him, getting that those practice reps under his
belt. So that's the luxury of what Cleveland has right now. Even if
they're not a playoff team, you can make progress and have a worse record
next year. Progress is not linear. The Eastern Conference could be more terrifying
next season if you look at who's healthy, who's going for it, or
the Knick's better, or the Wizard's better, or the Pacers a lot better.
There are a lot of different things that the Cavs could do. I
don't think there's a wrong answer here unless they go just settle for a lower
quality player in a trade. That'll do it for me. I hope you
enjoyed this. We'll be getting into more playoff talk as these the conference finals
go down. We did throw up our previews, so if this is Wednesday
morning, you're listening to this. You haven't seen Game one of MAM's Warriors
yet, go check that out with Watch Reports Grant Hughes. We'll get into
those games a little bit more. I will say my Game one takeaways for
the Boston Celtics. They should play fucking better in the third quarter. Everything
just from turnovers, not boxing out throwing these lazy ass passes really came back
to bite them. Jimmy Butler outscored them seventeen to fourteen the third quarter by
himself. They let Miami get in transition way too frequently, and I'm talking
even after makes of the few makes that they had to lose that quarter thirty
nine to fourteen to win the other three. Okay, great out of boys,
but you need to tighten things up there because the Heat They're not a
team that you can just willy nilly dribble around or throw these I don't even
know that they are telegraphed passes, but they felt like pointless passes. And
when you have the you know, the Heat perimeter defenders playing so far up,
you have to be just more meticulous with the ball and shout out to
just the Heat's depth or old people giving them some good defensive minutes. Max
Strusse was fantastic. Gabe Vincent has a really big place for them. This
is a team I thought was too shallow. Talked about this in the preseason
look Ahead mentioned a little bit at the beginning of the season, and then
after that it was never mentioned again because they are clearly deep enough. They
have admirable depth Boston. Things should get easier if you get Al Horford and
Marcus Smart back by game three. They'll certainly be able to help you on
the defensive side. I don't know the Marcus Smart will help you limie your
turnovers there more at all. Al Horford certainly will. We're just going from
the Aaron E. Smith minutes to Marcus Smart minutes and then from the Daniel
teismanus to Al Horford minutes. Those will be a natural organic bump. I
thought Robert Williams the third dough before he he got hurt later in the game.
I don't think it was anything serious, it was a cramp or something.
Actually haven't seen an update on that. I thought he played pretty well.
So the Southis are not out of this, but they need to play
smarter. You can't afford to have these just meltdowns against teams as good as
good as the heat. That'll do it for me. Though again, if
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