1 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,480 What is Kraka Lackin Hardwoo Knocks listeners, I am damned Valley telling out you 2 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:24,440 without my fantagist coach Adam promo coming at you without anyone In fact, this 3 00:00:24,519 --> 00:00:28,399 time, we have another podcast dropping this week with Bach Reports Grant Hughes, 4 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:32,679 where we're digging into our biggest offseason questions for the four teams that we're eliminated 5 00:00:32,679 --> 00:00:37,520 in the semifinals. For now, I wanted to do our Draft lottery fallout 6 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,679 pod, but before we get into all the fallout from how the lottery played 7 00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:44,600 out on Tuesday night, my usual housekeeping notes. 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We're not fourteen 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,319 teams actually, but every team that was impacted by the lottery tail the Orlando 26 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:57,719 Magic going number one, they get the number one pick. They do need 27 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,480 sort of a transcendent tenpole talent there, so it's great for them if they 28 00:02:01,519 --> 00:02:05,760 have that, and they potentially have two of these players now in Jalen Suggs 29 00:02:05,799 --> 00:02:10,159 and whomever they take at number one. I did catch ship from Orlando Match 30 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:15,240 a subsection of Orlando Magic Twitter this past week because it's something I wrote. 31 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,120 I said that Jalen Suggs was the only person who should take a priority and 32 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:23,199 impact your future plans. I don't view Wendell Carter Junior in those terms on 33 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,360 a great contract, had a fantastic year, quality big man. I don't 34 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,000 view Jonathan Isaac there at all. We need to see him play again, 35 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:35,280 which hasn't happened since the Disney bubble. I do not view Franz Wagner as 36 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,759 that guy. He has spectacular rookie season, He's going to be a very 37 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,639 good player. I had some Orlando Magic fans try and tell me that he 38 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:43,560 is going to be a top twenty five to thirty player in the NBA. 39 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:46,800 I just I don't believe that that's when the ceiling's going to peak. AZ. 40 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,639 If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. He seems like he's going to just 41 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,199 be a fantastic guy who maybe can be the third, fourth, fifth best 42 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:54,199 player on a really good team, which is really hard to do. By 43 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,039 the way, I don't view that as a tempole talent. I certainly don't 44 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,840 view Mark up Folds as a tempole talent. I was told by Alando Magic 45 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:06,240 fans that the organization does that's fine. I disagree vehemently with them. They're 46 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,759 going to be limitations on your offense. I don't care how much his mid 47 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:12,759 range game is improved. It is not elite. He's good at finishing around 48 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:15,639 the rim, doesn't get there a ton. We've only seen him play in 49 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,439 a handful of games these past two years, so maybe that rim pressure will 50 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:20,919 be there. The finishing certainly is. I'll give him that. His vision's 51 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,520 pretty good, versatile on defense, but there's going to be limitations placed upon 52 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,520 your offense for someone who is not a good jump shooter, just just period, 53 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,199 and he's not. You know, his mid range looks like there's stuff 54 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:35,400 that he sometimes mosies into. It's not someone who's creating these explosive looks off 55 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,800 the dribble, not someone who's hitting three is right now getting to the line 56 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,439 of high clip. I think that that's just he's a good player. I 57 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:43,879 don't think he's bad by any stretch. I don't view him as a temphole 58 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:47,840 talent. This is all to say who the Orlando Magic take. I've seen 59 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:53,879 Jabari Smith mocked there a ton since the draft lottery. I've seen Chet home 60 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:55,560 Groom draft there a ton, and I've seen even a little bit of love 61 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,639 for Palo ben Caro there. I don't know which one they should go with. 62 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,879 You go with chet Holmegrin just sort of looking at the front court talent 63 00:04:02,919 --> 00:04:05,319 they already have there. This isn't a fit need, but it feels like 64 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:11,039 he is just the bigger swing of the three and also someone who might fit 65 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,039 more easily with the talent they have, So it's not exclusively a fit that's 66 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:16,040 there. If you really wanted to go with Fit, I think you could 67 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:19,399 probably make a case that Jabari Smith makes the most sense there. I just 68 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:23,480 don't think you're at a point with any of your frontline talent where you should 69 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:27,279 be drafting for fit exclusively, and so you use this pick, use it 70 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,800 on a big that's pretty straightforward there for them. I am curious to see 71 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,360 how this does impact what they do with the rest of their team. You 72 00:04:34,439 --> 00:04:39,240 have Mo Bamba and during restricted free agency, my guests is he's gone. 73 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,720 You can still hold on to Wendell Carter Jr. His salary is he's a 74 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,360 starting caliber center in the NBA, and I don't think that he's His salary 75 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,920 is like fourteen point two million. It's about starting caliber. It's not too 76 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,759 high, and you're also going to have this big coming in on a rookie 77 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:56,560 scale deal. Whoever they draft, you can so hold on to him if 78 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,240 you want. I'd probably look at moving Jonathan Isaac if there's any team that 79 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:01,959 is really interested in him, assuming that he's going to be healthy. After 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,639 all these setbacks that he has, we've reached a point where there are non 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,160 guarantees kicking into his deal based off him failing to meet these playing time thresholds 82 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,040 that were set. I think they have to be open to anything from there, 83 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:16,759 but you don't. You also don't have to move anyone because you're not 84 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,040 at that point. You're not trying to contend. It doesn't need to be 85 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:21,439 about fit, needs to be about exploration. I would like to see the 86 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:25,199 maximize the talent of the guys. They're a little bit more and so if 87 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:27,680 you're going to have any of these rookie biggs coming in, and even with 88 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:30,639 Jalen Suggs there, and for people who really want to believe that Mark kel 89 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Folds is the answer, or even just like any of their guards, you 90 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,639 want to have more space and better floor balance around them. And so that 91 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:44,319 might be why they could gravitate towards Jabari smith Is as well. But I 92 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:47,120 think that this is great for Orlando's rebuild and they have a ton of If 93 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,800 it sounds like I'm sort of shipping all over what they have, I'm not. 94 00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:55,480 They feel at once like they have a ton of everything, but they 95 00:05:55,519 --> 00:06:00,759 don't necessarily have the centerpiece of something. Except for Allen Suggs, who I 96 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,639 am infinitely high on. I did crucify the Raptors for not taking him and 97 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,560 going with Scotty Barnes. I was clearly wrong there. For Jalen Suggs is 98 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,000 going to be really good. I think he's an all star in the NBA. 99 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:13,839 I just see it with him. He's going to be someone who should 100 00:06:13,879 --> 00:06:16,279 be at least Lee Gathers defensively for his position when you get to a point 101 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:20,920 where he doesn't necessarily have to be your only lead initiator or score. And 102 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,519 I'm not even saying you need to be the number two, just someone else 103 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,759 who can help him shoulder that burden and be efficient in the way that they're 104 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,800 doing it. No offense to Colanthony who cooled off as the year went on. 105 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,040 There they have I think one of those guys in Jalen Suggs. Now 106 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,079 they're going to get just based off what people are saying of the top four 107 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:43,279 players in this draft, they're going to get another one. That's absolutely huge 108 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:46,759 for them, and I'm just very fascinated curious to see what they do with 109 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:54,079 the rest of this team moving forward, especially more immediately because of the impact 110 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,800 that this does have. Just looking at their their front corp. Maybe it's 111 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,519 a simple as you let Mobamba walk and you leave the rest where it is, 112 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:01,120 because we don't know what Jonathan Isaac is at this point. We saw 113 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,279 some dual big lineups with Wendel Carter Junior in there this season as well. 114 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,879 But you know, if you want to play Jonathan Isaac, one of these 115 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,879 rookie bigs and Wendel Carter Junior together, you're looking at maybe fron Z Wagner 116 00:07:10,879 --> 00:07:13,519 at the two minutes. Hey, maybe you go super big like that. 117 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,560 We've seen something similar work in Cleveland with vastly different talent. But yeah, 118 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:21,319 Orlando getting the number one pick absolutely huge, and they're just their team to 119 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:25,079 watch because of how many intriguing pieces they have, even if you don't view 120 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:28,040 all of them as long term keepers. There. Oklahoma City coming in at 121 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,240 number two. Not falling out of the top four of the draft is great 122 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:35,399 for them. I think you know this has been the other stuff here is 123 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:41,920 if you're Oklahoma City, you're probably hoping that Orlando goes with Apollo or Jabari 124 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Smith, that you can get at chet Homegren, which just seems like the 125 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:48,480 perfect fit in Oklahoma City right now. And look caveat being I am a 126 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:53,519 little higher than shin deep into my draft research at this point, so don't 127 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,240 take my word for this. Is just like everything that they need someone with 128 00:07:57,279 --> 00:08:00,560 defensive player of the year ceiling in the middle. They don't have a true 129 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,439 center there right now or as not a long term one though Mike Muscala is 130 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:07,680 a placeholder. Derek Favors, who just stopped in the final years contract, 131 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,199 he is a placeholder. Jeremiah Robinson. Earl was absolutely impressed with him what 132 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:15,839 he did for his rookie season. You don't necessarily want him soaking up as 133 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:18,040 many reps at the five as he did. And so they get sort of 134 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:22,240 a true center in their seven one only I think he's twenty years old who 135 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:26,600 might be able to space the floor. Give me all the poku and chet 136 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:28,879 Holmegren minutes. I do like that, Oklahomas, that he didn't fall to 137 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,759 like four feet or end up in fourth, because I know that there would 138 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:35,559 have been just a section of the Internet saying, oh, well, they're 139 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,000 gonna have to take Jay and Ivy and they have Giddy, and then the 140 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,600 whole trade shake gug get, shake, Gilgess Alexander bullshit again would would crop 141 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,200 up. That's also why I like Homegren there with Giddy and Jay, Gilgess, 142 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Alexander, they need they need a big a player that they can play 143 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,200 true pick and pop, pick and roll games with, and he gives both 144 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,360 elements of that, and combined with the room protection that he is going to 145 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,559 be the come out of the room protection he's going to bring on the defensive 146 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,639 side. That being said, if he's not there, and I just because 147 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,600 if I'm only best player available, I really do think that Pollo is going 148 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:15,360 to end up being the best player of these three long term. Maybe it's 149 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,440 more of a he feels like he has the lower floor of all of them 150 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:24,639 as things don't pan out, But he is just a matchup, a monster, 151 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:28,759 a mismatch monster, someone who's almost seven foot the way that he can 152 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,440 handle the ball create his own shot. I don't know how you're gonna guard 153 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:39,000 the fully finished product of this of this kid who's only nineteen and sort of 154 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,360 fits with the okac Ethos where they're gonna just get, you know, Skew 155 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,000 younger. So if Homebring goes to Orlando, I think Pallo should be the 156 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,200 answer for Oklahoma City there. I could see the case for Jabari Smith, 157 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,399 and I think there are probably maybe people that think that he could, you 158 00:09:54,440 --> 00:10:00,360 know, his offensive skill set through the roof as well. I think Pollo 159 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,159 is gonna wind up being the better finisher. I'm not I'm not really sure. 160 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,960 I feel like Pallo has the chance to be more of a disruptor on 161 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,679 the defensive end. Maybe that's wrong there, but uh, Gerard Smith might 162 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,120 be a little bit more versatile though I could see him guarding more positions. 163 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Uh it's I don't know that you could act absolutely go wrong there. But 164 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,639 they're gonna keep this pick. I'm also really interested to see with the thunder 165 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,240 what do they kind of do with that number twelve pick that's coming over by 166 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:28,519 way of the Clippers. So we're still going in order here, but we 167 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,919 might as well just tackle the the second lottery pick that they have, they 168 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,399 could you know, is that going to be a draft and stash spot for 169 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:41,320 them just because they you know, their roster of bodies, it gets high 170 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,720 pretty quickly. And so unless they're planning on making consolidation trades, waiving some 171 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:48,440 guys, dumping some guys, you're you know, you can only bring You're 172 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,919 only gonna have your your a certain your fifteen active players on the roster leading 173 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,360 into the regular season. Will they go that route? Do they try to 174 00:10:56,399 --> 00:11:01,480 look at use that as a mechanism to move up or something or acquire a 175 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,960 different pick. We've seen Sam Presty you got in the past where he's slipping 176 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,440 a draft pick. There's like in the current year for a future draft pick 177 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,679 for a team that really wants to get into the lottery. I don't know 178 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:11,120 that they can do anything consequential with it. And you're at two, so 179 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,399 you're not going to move up. If Orlando wants compensation, like say Oklahoma 180 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:22,159 City wants chat Home Grin or Palo and Orlando is or Joe Barry Smith that's 181 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,559 their guy, that's the highest guy in the draft boards twelve two. I 182 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,240 have a price to pay to jump up the one spot. I probably say 183 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:35,720 no, probably if he's your guy. I think a lot of people are 184 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,279 just going to view this as between these, even the four players we're gonna 185 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:41,320 include Jay and Ivy there, They're not going to view it as this huge 186 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,399 discrepancy, and so maybe it would be too hive a price to pay. 187 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,080 I don't see them using it in that way either. And you do look 188 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:54,440 at when you do get into the cat mechanics of Okse's sheet, they can 189 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,600 create extra rosters possible where they don't have to go. You know, it's 190 00:11:56,639 --> 00:12:00,360 not a problem that if you're going to take in both of these these first 191 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,480 round picks, it's just a concerned moving forward. And if they are, 192 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:09,960 you know, they're drafting guys to keep them and use them immediately. You're 193 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,559 it gets interesting looking at Okay, well, they're gonna try and get rid 194 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,559 of favors? Are they're going to try and get rid of what Mike Uscalo 195 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,879 who has a team option. He played well enough for them to pick it 196 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:24,320 up, and they seem like they do want at least his veteran presence there. 197 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:28,960 Do they sort of short circuit the developmental projects that they have? Are 198 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,399 they out on tail mail? Maldon at all after the Josh Giddy pick, 199 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,480 having Segula Alexander, the emergence of trade Man, do you maybe see what 200 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,320 the market is for Darius Basley who closed the year pretty strong. Probably getting 201 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,799 ahead of myself there, but that's a fascinating element for them this offseason because 202 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:46,440 they have so many guys. There are a lot of non guaranteed deals and 203 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,440 team options on the teams. Let me make that clear, but Kenrick Williams, 204 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,639 you're guaranteed that salaries. You're picking up Blue Dort's team option. Aaron 205 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,360 Wiggins, Yes, you absolutely should guarantee that salary based off how he played, 206 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,360 and so Darry Favors is already opted in, you start running out of 207 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,799 options there really quickly. I'm curious to see what the roster maneuvering here looks 208 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,519 like because of them having multiple picks in the first round, but they good 209 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,240 that's gonna be used for the reboilt getting number two, and either way, 210 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,480 they're gonna have a big, like a leading big prospect in there. And 211 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,720 I do think that's what they need, and I'm not thinking it needs to 212 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,279 be this traditional plotter. And that's because none of the three guys that we've 213 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,799 mentioned are those types of players. That's just a position they have a need. 214 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,480 I don't even know that you can look at and say, oh, 215 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,759 well, they have just long term keepers on the wings. I'm not even 216 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:33,600 ready to go that far on Josh Giddy. They have Shay Giler's Alexander like 217 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:37,919 that is their tent pole rebuilding prospect. If you view Josh Giddy in those 218 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,399 terms, that's fine too. They're both perimeter players guards in the back court. 219 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:43,639 I don't know that they compliment each other all that well. When we're 220 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,919 going all the way down the line. They could stand and get higher end 221 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:50,279 wing play. That's no offense to lu Door or Kennris Williams. But then 222 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,279 definitely just on the front line at that five spot. The Houston Rockets, 223 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,879 they should be a team that winds up with one of these three bigs as 224 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:01,720 well. The leftover one make you feel like it's a pretty easy decision. 225 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,440 Maybe there will be clamoring for them to draft Jade and Ivy. I don't 226 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,879 like the fit with Jalen Green, I just I don't love it. I 227 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:15,080 think he needs to play alongside someone who's going to be more in tune with 228 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,480 playing off the ball so that he isn't the one that needs to be displaced, 229 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,360 or maybe someone who's going to be more passed first than score first. 230 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,399 And because you want Jalen Green, don't I don't know where I plan with 231 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,039 Jalen Green is gonna lead initiator or what I saw from him over the second 232 00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:31,480 half of the season after the Austin break, whatever you want to say, 233 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:35,159 I can kind of envision it, but you at least probably want a co 234 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,919 initiator, someone who's on the same level. I don't even know if Jade 235 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:41,960 and Ivy is that guy. And if you are going to find that guy, 236 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,720 you need him to be the floor general first. And I view Jay 237 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:48,480 Nivy is just like this offensive monopoly onto himself, which is great if you're 238 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:52,759 gonna make him the central focus of everything you're doing. I don't know that 239 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:58,679 the Houston Rockets should be doing that. Are you tilting too far towards drafting 240 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,320 for fit when you should go with best player available. If you think Jane 241 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,120 and Ivy is much better than whichever of the three Biggs is one of the 242 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,519 three Biggs that's left in this spot, then yes, you can absolutely take 243 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,840 him. But I look at Houston and I don't really see them having a 244 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:16,639 solution upfront long term either. We don't know Uspan Grewbot in Profiles of five 245 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:20,720 anyway, Alpern Shangoon was fantastic. He's not someone he again is not someone 246 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,000 you plan around the bar for. This is super high. If you have 247 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,399 a chance to take Jabari Smith, Paalo Bancaro or chet Holmgren, you won't 248 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,559 have a chance to. If chet Holgren drops below past second, I will 249 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:35,159 be shocked. If you the opportunity to get one of those guys, you 250 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:37,960 take them and you can figure out the rest later. Because I don't think 251 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:41,840 Shane Goon is someone who needs to shape your future to that extent. We 252 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:46,039 just don't know. The defensive ceiling of all three of these biggs is going 253 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,679 to be higher than that of Shane Goon's right now. And he did move 254 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,600 a lot better, especially laterally in certain incest in the half court defensively than 255 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:56,799 I thought for the Rockets this year. He's also just he's not a traditional 256 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,519 shock creator in the sense the table setter for everybody. Hel Yeah, he's 257 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:03,240 going to be the best passer of these of any like, no matter which 258 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,399 big that Houston could end up drafting, but he's not this like face up 259 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,159 weapon can put the ball on the floor, attack on the deck like that, 260 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,679 and you could potentially get that Jabari, Smith and Palo. If Chet 261 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:18,039 falls as far, I think he probably gives you a little bit more floor 262 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,759 spacing, and all three of them are just going to give you more defense, 263 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:25,559 especially Homegrint of course. So I think this is another easy situation where 264 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:27,679 you just take one of the three bigs that's not left on the board for 265 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:33,360 Houston. Could they be a team that Could they be a team that wants 266 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,720 to move up at the three spot. No, I'd probably just take the 267 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,600 what's left over there. I would also say it's interesting if they do go 268 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:42,399 to the big man route. You have Christian Wood floating around there. Now, 269 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,720 he certainly becomes superfluous. What do you do with him? And I 270 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:48,440 think everyone peg him as a trade candy in the first place. Then landing 271 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,120 at number three sort of solidifies it for me that they're going to be looking 272 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,159 pretty aggressively to move him, and it's look, that's just good business. 273 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,559 He's not super old, but he's entering the final year of his contract, 274 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:03,320 and you're either unless he's gonna sign an extension now to where you can keep 275 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,640 in a reasonable rate, You're not going to be at the point where you 276 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,480 can justify paying Christian would a bunch of money in twenty twenty three, two 277 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,640 twenty four, and so I expect he and Eric Gordon to be pretty heavily 278 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,519 shocked. Although I wish I was pretty surprised that I thought Christian woul would 279 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,240 stay in Houston pastetrated inline. I really thought that Eric Gordon was going to 280 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:25,000 be dealt And so look, you have a nice space here now all of 281 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:29,839 a sudden with Jellen Green, whoever you're gonna draft at at this third spot. 282 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,359 You know, Shangon is good. I'm really Josh Christopher. The confidence 283 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,480 he has on offense is aspirational, and he really is just has like this 284 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,720 gamer motor or workaholic. And you still have these like unknown flyers and on 285 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:45,160 very high usmen group. But I think he could be a defensive monster. 286 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,640 If you get a chance to pair him with one of these other bigs upfront, 287 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,319 that's going to be something that could be super interesting, assuming he gets 288 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,160 real run. I'm not super high on Kevin Porter Jr. I don't think 289 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,839 he's league guard material, but maybe as a microwave guy who can give you 290 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,400 some tertiary playmaking off the bench, he's gonna be He's extension alms with this 291 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,200 summer restricted free agent. After next season, we could see what they do 292 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,920 with him. Jay Shawn Tate, is he part of the plans long term 293 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,240 when he's entering his own contract here? Who knows. But even the Garrison 294 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Matthews, that's not a very team friendly deal for them. They have a 295 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:22,599 lot of players who are just good that they can keep, don't It's I'm 296 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:25,960 not a big fan of timelines, but it's not they don't have you know, 297 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,599 Garrison Matthews and a Jay Shawn Tate even at kJ Martin. If you 298 00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:33,880 don't view them as these sort of long term keepers, they're not going to 299 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,640 screw you to the extent that they're adding unecessary wins to your tally. At 300 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,359 this point, and we know how important next season is for Houston is the 301 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,240 that's the funding year that they don't owe their their first round draft pick. 302 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:48,160 So so yes, there's that element of the rebuild. It feels like it's 303 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,200 becoming it's coming more into focus, where now you have this top three pick 304 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,200 plus John Green less than two years after training James Harden. That's a pretty 305 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,279 good spot to be. And they're going to be ultra flexible moving forward, 306 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,839 especially if they're you know, you just look at their books, and I 307 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,359 mean as of right now, if we just assume that Eric Gordon is on 308 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,480 this team in twenty two and twenty four, their highest paid player is going 309 00:19:10,519 --> 00:19:12,960 to be Jail Green at nine point nine million. They could obviously add money 310 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,240 off of that, so but that's just how flexible they're gonna wind up being. 311 00:19:18,839 --> 00:19:22,440 I fully expect them. What I'm getting out is to just take the 312 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,960 leftover big from the three top prospects, and then we should probably prepare ourselves 313 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,200 for a Christian Wood trade. And then maybe they segue Shane Good into a 314 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,799 different type of roles at off the bench or see someone that could become a 315 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:41,160 trade candidate as next season moves forward. The Sacramento Kings at number four their 316 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:44,920 an interesting proposition. I think the pick here, if you're going best player 317 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,079 available is Jade and Ivy. I can't it's the Kings, don't. I 318 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:52,240 If you want to talk to yourself into Shaden Sharp, I can't. The 319 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,960 mystery Box. I can't do it. I just like not for the Kings 320 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:59,599 of all teams. I just you can't talk me into it for them. 321 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,559 I don't love the fit with Jay and Ivy and Darren Fox, especially now 322 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:06,359 that you have Sabonis there and the offense is going to slow down to some 323 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,680 extent and that's just someone else and he's have the ball in their hands. 324 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,079 I also don't know that Jay and Ivy is good enough. I don't know 325 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,440 enough about him or to what you think his mb you know, his ninetieth 326 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,119 percentile MBA outcome is going to be to say, well, maybe this is 327 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,480 when you start looking at Darren Fox trades. I don't know if you have 328 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:26,759 Jay and Ivy, Davion Mitchell, Andrean Fox on your team, that's going 329 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:30,160 to constitute a log jam. I guess you can bring Davy On Mitchell off 330 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,319 the bench, But playing Fox and Ivy together in your back court, I 331 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:40,960 am that's a lot of speed. Jane and Ivy is super athletic. I 332 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:44,599 just don't know that I would love to see those two play together. Could 333 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,640 Sacramento, knowing what we know about Sacramento, it would be surprising if they 334 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,359 did shop Darren Fox just because they have this pick, it would mean sort 335 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,559 of pivoting into a rebuild, and they did pretty much the exact opposite by 336 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,519 going after Bill Massa Bonis, who represented them at the pottery talk about peak 337 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,960 cultural integration there. For them, that's the Lotteries, what the Kings are 338 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,480 all about, and they wanted Szibonus to know that. I respect it. 339 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:11,200 I think you just go with the best player available and figure it out later 340 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,400 if perhaps one of the bigs falls here, which case that makes your job 341 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,759 a little bit easier. All of them could theoretically play with Sabonus, even 342 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:22,680 though I don't love it. I would view this as though a pretty not 343 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,200 not likely. But this is where you look at the draft order the way 344 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,279 you chok out and say, oh, there might be a trade here because 345 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:34,119 the Kings have decided just based off the Sabonus trade. To me that there's 346 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:40,039 more urgency here, that they're interested in winning sooner rather than later, and 347 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:44,279 so what and who can you get for the number four pick? I s 348 00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:47,359 also people on Twitter floating around John Collins. I think there's probably too much 349 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,440 to give up for John Collins, especially with Sabonus in place. Would you 350 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,440 give up the number four pick for Rudy Gobert? I wouldn't, especially because 351 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:59,079 Sabonis is already there as well. I don't know what the trademarkt is gonna 352 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:02,039 look like. Are you gonna give it up for a zach Lavine sign and 353 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,559 trade Brady bo sign and trade. I'm probably not doing that either, to 354 00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:08,920 be honest with you. So I don't even know what that package would look 355 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,839 like. Maybe it's also just a matter of trading down. Just Detroit really 356 00:22:14,839 --> 00:22:17,039 want Jade and Ivy. That's only one spot, but can you get something? 357 00:22:17,079 --> 00:22:21,160 And then if you're the Kings, you're okay with drafting a Keegan Murray 358 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:23,640 or a you know, maybe you're taking the shade sharp there. I still 359 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,200 wouldn't recommend it for for Sacramento. I don't know, but that could be 360 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:33,160 an instance, or maybe there's another team that's outside of the lottery or just 361 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,799 you know, further away. I really want Jade and Ivy and you can 362 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:38,160 get more stuff out of them. You scroll through the lottery and I can't 363 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:41,799 see a team that's gonna be like, let's go really after what the King? 364 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,640 What the Knicks decide? That's someone who could be our point guard in 365 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,599 the future. It's not quickly. It's definitely not Rose, It's not Kamba, 366 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:52,799 like the Julius Randola as our primary playmaker. That's just gone to shit? 367 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,759 Is it them? And what can you extract out of them other picks 368 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,519 some of their young guys. Are you're getting an IQ in that? I 369 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,720 don't think you get an RJ. Barrett. I don't even know that the 370 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:06,559 Knicks would go that route. It seems very the Knicks going to such length 371 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,960 to get younger is not their MMO either. That would be the other option 372 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,640 for the Kings, though. I do think you they are going to be 373 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,559 a team that monitors sort of the trade market for this, whether it's an 374 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:21,559 issue of trading down or does dust Look every year, it feels like some 375 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:26,799 player we haven't talked about becomes available who can make a huge difference. I 376 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:30,559 fancy myself someone who's normally pretty good at spotting those players in advance. I 377 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:36,160 can tell you right now like I haven't found you know that God does not 378 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,519 exist for me at this moment, and like is it? And even the 379 00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:44,000 ones that you could tell you know, Pascal Siakam's not gonna become available in 380 00:23:44,039 --> 00:23:48,039 Toronto, is what I'm basically getting at. Even if even if af Fred 381 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:52,759 van Fleet came available in Toronto, you're not going that's that's just not that 382 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:55,279 it could be a fit with Aaron foxbre giving up the number four pick for 383 00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:59,000 that. But maybe I did think about, was O Gianna Nobi exactly what 384 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,119 Sacramento needs. I don't know. Toronto probably has to include something else in 385 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,680 that deal. Also don't know that Toronto is gonna want to go with the 386 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:11,799 Jay Nivy route. That's just another team where it's that Jay Nivey six four, 387 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:17,759 their whole six seven to six nine, six ten model that that goes 388 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,839 entirely against it. So while the Oganna Nobi sort of idea that's something if 389 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:26,640 I'm the Kings that certainly piques my interest, I don't think that it's something 390 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:32,119 that's really gonna wet the whistle of Toronto. I still look surprising things happen 391 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,279 all the time. It's also the Kings. They're a wild card here. 392 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,839 I love you Kings fans, but let's just call spade a spade there. 393 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,640 They're fucking roller coaster, turbulent, violent, painful, vomit inducing. That 394 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:47,759 points too Let's just they do feel like the point where the draft night actually 395 00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:52,759 starts, or where the draft rumors are going to begin. Number five the 396 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,440 Pistons probably disappointment for them to wind up here, to miss out on all 397 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,279 four of those prospects. I don't know who they go with the number five, 398 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:00,880 Like we're getting out out of my depth here. I would probably go 399 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,400 with Keegan Murray. I don't know if they're going to have the impetus to 400 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,680 do that. Did they look at trading down? Did they look at swinging 401 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,960 for the fences on shade and sharp? You're not at a point where you 402 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,319 can get everyone wants them to get a different type of big. They could 403 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,160 resign Marvin Badley, they have Islaya Stewart, but this isn't the spot where 404 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,480 you're gonna go and get that big. I think the next like highest rated 405 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:25,079 big on the board, it's just I don't even know who it is. 406 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,039 It's probably Jalen Durn that's probably you're not taking him this high? Is it 407 00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:33,759 a trade pick? If you were going to trade up like you like you 408 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:34,839 said, if they really want Jay not Y, what do they want to 409 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:41,000 give up for him? If Houston was really married to just the big that 410 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:44,880 it has in Shanguna, maybe in christian Wood, and you know, let's 411 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,240 let's say that they're not as high on the remaining big like that was the 412 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,720 one who was at the bottom of their board. They don't want Jay Navvy 413 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:55,359 for Jalen Green either. Could they look at moving down the two spots and 414 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,519 take whoever they wish? They're sure, but I just don't see the real 415 00:25:57,519 --> 00:26:00,559 opportunity to move up unless you're gonna do business with Sacramento, who I think 416 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,240 it's probably gonna want more of a you know, is Jeremy Grant? Like, 417 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,160 are you giving up Jeremy Grant to jump the one spot and get Jay 418 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,680 and Ivy? There are other moving parts involved there as well. I don't. 419 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:15,079 I don't know. I honestly, I just I don't know. But 420 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:18,319 I think what I do think this the impact that this has on Detroit is 421 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:21,880 it opens up. I'm not trying to be that guy, but about one 422 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,559 point six million in an additional cap space, maybe one point five however you 423 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:27,759 want around there, that's going to get them to like twenty eight point three 424 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:33,039 twenty eight point four million in cap space, assuming that they you know, 425 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,480 guarantee certain deals, pick up certain team options, some player options get exercised. 426 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,839 They could very easily get to is what I'm getting at a max for 427 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:48,119 DeAndre Ayton in restricted free agency his first year max, and this goes the 428 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,920 same for Miles Bridges. If you wanted to vote to vote, there is 429 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,039 thirty point five million, so they can get there fairly easily. Maybe you 430 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:59,119 would be assigned in trade anywhere anyway, Basher compensation gets really weird with that 431 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,559 though, I won't go into detail with it, just because I don't want 432 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,920 to bore you with that, but just it's effectively hard and sign in trades, 433 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,240 especially the ones guys coming off their rookie deals, to make the salaries 434 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,519 work. Because the salary, says the quick synopsis, it counts as a 435 00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:18,839 lesser number to the team that is signing the players as their outgoing salary, 436 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,640 but the incoming salary for the Pistons would still count as thirty point five million. 437 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,680 That's what makes it tough to work, not impossible. But again, 438 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:32,160 if Phoenix doesn't want to match a max offer sheet for eight and the Pistons 439 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,960 feel like the team that looms largest now because Orlando has cap space, they're 440 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,200 going to get one of those bigs. They're just gonna get that their choice 441 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:44,319 from there. There was talk about Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City from LOAJ going 442 00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:48,160 after DeAndre Eton. They technically could still do that, but they don't have 443 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,519 cap space to begin with. That's why they were sort of fascinating. They 444 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,960 have that dead money from Kemba Walker on the books, it's about twenty seven 445 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000 point four, and so to build around that with shake Gil, just Shake 446 00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:00,400 Gil, just Alexander. I don't know why I can't say his name this 447 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:06,839 podcast. His thirty point five million dollars salaries is kicking in. I don't 448 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,400 like you could clear money, but to get to another thirty point five is 449 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,279 just almost impossible. To have to be the assign and trade, and that 450 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,880 gets really difficult. You're willing to you have shake Gil just Alexander and assign 451 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,680 and trade for DeAndre and absolutely not. Maybe you're willing empty or pick Cachet, 452 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:23,680 But Phoenix isn't necessarily going to be interested in that. I wouldn't think. 453 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,559 Maybe Sarver is for the immediate financial savings, but they're not going to 454 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,200 be in love with that deal when they're trying to optimize what's left of the 455 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:37,720 Chris Paul window, which we can only assume is not that not that long 456 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,680 or going to be open. So and then yeah, Houston was never going 457 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:44,559 to be in that whatever. So you have one team off the board that 458 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,640 could go after him or the Spurs gonna want eight and maybe they're a team 459 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,960 that could get to the cap space if they wanted to. Memphis is another 460 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,680 team, but they can only get to about a little under twenty million, 461 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,640 and that's if they just get rid of key players. It's not going to 462 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,319 be them. The Pacers dropping down, we haven't gotten to them yet, 463 00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:03,480 so trying to spoil that too much there, that's really it though. Now, 464 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:06,440 so you've almost you've lost a DeAndre eight and soon or maybe you've gained 465 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,680 one in Portland and Indiana. And I just I don't use San Antonio is 466 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,240 an eight and suitor. Perhaps I'm perhaps I'm wrong. They are Spurs Stranger 467 00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:15,519 free to correct me. I think that this the way that the draft lottery 468 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,680 played out, really makes it more likely that we see the Pistons linked to 469 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,240 DeAndre eight. And I know a lot of people like Miles Bridges there, 470 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,680 I just the athleticism around Kade. I get it and then someone obviously like 471 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,400 a local kid. Effectively, I totally understand the interest, and he's someone 472 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,440 who's diversified his offensive portfolio. I just don't necessarily love the fit, especially 473 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,039 if you have to max him to get him out of Charlotte, who has 474 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:41,759 every intendive to just pay him whatever after not dealing him. And I don't 475 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:44,400 know which route they go with the actual pick this is. I think they're 476 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,799 the team that gets the biggest blow here when you're looking at that, because 477 00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:51,839 they are such they could have used any of the four guys that are going 478 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,799 to be ahead of that number five spot. I would go Keegan Murray Personally, 479 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,440 I don't think they're gonna want to. I don't think they're just they're 480 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,319 not gonna want to that route. Knowing the bigger swings that the Pistons take, 481 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,319 they feel like maybe they're a shade and sharp destination the Pacers at number 482 00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:08,960 six. They're a team that's hurt by this as well. You were certain 483 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,039 they were certainly hoping to be in the top four two. I don't know 484 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,359 who they take here at all there? Do they Are they a team? 485 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,960 You know? Are they a team that could think about trading this pick. 486 00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:23,799 If you're you have Tyrs Aliberton, who's already really good. Now you have 487 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,559 Miles Turner, because you bring back to j Warren, you have Rogged and 488 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,920 Krista wart Day was already a big part of the rotation as a rookie. 489 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,400 I don't think they moved this pick. That would be such a big move, 490 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,720 would be wildly out of character for them. And I know they did 491 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:40,599 just tank and move the bonus in the first place. That just felt more 492 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,000 like a placeholder move. That being said, mark Stein did report that they're 493 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,440 probably gonna trade Malcolm Brogden, and so perhaps they're open to anything. The 494 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,480 flip side of that would be, if I'm going to trade Brogden, it's 495 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:56,519 probably just to continue getting younger, and so why would you move the number 496 00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,519 six pick. But if you're interested in returning to the playoffs immediately and you're 497 00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,519 the Pacers, that number six pick is a pretty big trade asset to this 498 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,640 point, I would I would think it's more like there's a chance they don't 499 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,680 do any of these things. But if you told me they're either going to 500 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,160 move Myles Turner or their number six pick, number six pick, I'm going 501 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,839 to say that they're moving the number six pick. I would keep it for 502 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,000 them as well, just to add another youngster potential building block alongside Tyrese Haliburton 503 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,559 and Christo. Weren't they at minimum and you don't even need to move Myles 504 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,960 Turner. But the fact that this didn't end up in the top four in 505 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:33,240 sort of a primary centerpiece spot I do think opens them to some more possibilities. 506 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,400 They do need to shore up the wing rotation, and that's something that 507 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,599 they could do. I mean, whether it's Shane Sharp, whether it's Keegan 508 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,559 Murray, whether it's you know, ben Nick Mathin like they have, they 509 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,920 have guys that they can go with here who can maybe be a part of 510 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:55,559 their their big picture haul and help solidify just a ring rotation that is absent 511 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,200 truer wings. I would say that would be fair to say. Maybe you 512 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,960 just think that they're going to sign TJ. Warren. He'll be absolutely fine, 513 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:07,160 But that's there are players that they could absolutely use here. So I 514 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:09,839 don't find them, not that I don't find them very interesting. I just 515 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:13,839 they don't feel like a wildcard to me. It feels like they're gonna take 516 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,160 maybe the best perimeter player available in this spot, I would I guess the 517 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,920 thing that would surprise me a little bit. They don't seem like a team 518 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,480 that would swing on Shane and Sharp. That's the one thing I would say, 519 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,000 maybe I'll be proven wrong there. So another team that's probably you know, 520 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,480 they fell. They were in the position to get the number six pick. 521 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,200 They ended up at number seven. They mean the little look pissed or 522 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,519 sad when it happened. The Portland Trailblazers, I don't know what they do 523 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,119 here. I'm not even gonna spend time going like, yeah, they can 524 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:45,160 draft some wings and guys who help with their defense. Maybe if they're looking 525 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,839 for a center replacement John Duran here is wouldn't be an egregious reach. I 526 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:52,400 don't think I think they look at moving this pick. I would look at 527 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,480 them as a team that maybe his linked to Rudy Gobert should he hit the 528 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,640 trade market. I know it does seem more likely that the Jazz Do you 529 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,519 want to run it back? People are already saying the choice is gonna get 530 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:07,480 the seven pick for Jeremy Grant. That is an abject disaster. If the 531 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:12,400 Blazers do that, Jeremy Grant headed in to a contract a year you're don't 532 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,680 need to extend. You have to extend him at the four years in one 533 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,000 hundred twelve million that he could command. Why else would you give up such 534 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,079 a premo pick? And then what are you? Efrey Simons, Jeremy Grant, 535 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,359 Yusef Nurkics, Josh Hart and Damian Lillard. It's it's an okay team 536 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,160 with depth that's like, some of it's intriguing, some of it's not. 537 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,400 I mean, Justice Winslow had some nice moments for them. Keim Johnson looked 538 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,880 super interesting. Nots little when he's healthy has made some place for them. 539 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,720 Greg Brown the third. I think as we're recording, this is probably you 540 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,440 know, jumping through the roof of some building. I just don't know. 541 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,119 It would feel like it would still feel like a regressive team compared to what 542 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,079 they had last year, or should have had if they never gotten injured, 543 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,119 or what they thought they had and you jumped through a lot of hoops to 544 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,799 get there, and just to not get that much better. Maybe the roster 545 00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:00,599 is a little bit more balanced in that sense. They probably need to hope 546 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,680 that a different type of star becomes available. And again, like I said, 547 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,320 it's really hard to pinpoint who that could be, just you know, 548 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,199 going through all these different teams. You do have a number seven pick, 549 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,119 though they just feel like an inevitable Rudy Gobert team. The other thing they 550 00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:20,199 could look at is is this a pick if the Pacers are really looking to 551 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,440 do things over there are probably mechanisms that you could use, especially because Portland 552 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,079 has a huge trade exception that people build as the Jeremy Grant trade exception. 553 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,760 Miles Turner Malcolm Brogden like a sort of a mega deal here. Those are 554 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,719 two players that would help Portland. Malcolm Brogden's sort of that third league guard. 555 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,320 Or is it you know, is it just a matter of making a 556 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,679 three team trade. We are giving up number seven, but you're getting Jeremy 557 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,159 Grant and Miles Turner back. I don't know, but you would if you're 558 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:51,599 not going to go the consolidate super consolidation ro out of getting an actual star, 559 00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:54,719 but maybe attaching stuff to the number seven pick. I'd be curious if 560 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,400 you offered the number seven pick for Rudy Gobert as the framework. I know 561 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,079 other schallege we need to be involved. Would they do it just because of 562 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:06,079 what we've seen the playoffs. John Hollinger of The Athletic wrote about this about 563 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,239 how we're sort of veering towards spaseball, where it's biggs who have the ability 564 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,000 to just to stretch the floor and almost defend like wings, and so that 565 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,760 neutralizes Rudy Gobert in a sense. It's not playing small, it's play actually 566 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,280 small. It's biggs that are able to play what we've deemed a smaller players 567 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,880 game. I'd be curious would I give up the number seven pick if I'm 568 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,519 Portland's Rudy Gobert. No. I think that they should be rebuilding based off 569 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,119 how they acted this past season, and to not wind up with the first 570 00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:35,519 round pick in this year's draft after moving to Norman Powell, Robert Covington, 571 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,239 larn NaNs Year and CJ. McCollum, that's a that's a failure to me 572 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,719 as well. I'm very interesting what Cronin does now that he's the permanent GM 573 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,079 there, how he maneuvers about this roster. You know, we're only talking 574 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:50,159 about a one slot drop, but I think this pick was always going to 575 00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,079 be in play. I don't think that changes now. If anything, I 576 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,199 just think it's more in play. I don't know if they're going to wind 577 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,679 up settling though on what they're getting back, And I just want to be 578 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,039 clear, I don't think Jeremy Ant is the player that should be your primary 579 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:07,480 target, your only return, the crown jewel of your return if you are 580 00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,599 giving up this pick. The New Orleans Pelicans another trade candidate here. I 581 00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:15,920 think I do kind of like the idea of them landing with Keegan Murray and 582 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,400 you have you have him. I don't know if he's gonna fall this farm 583 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,840 my guests would be no, but having him and Herb Jones and Jose Evarado 584 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,559 on the same team and Traymer the third, I favor it. If not 585 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:30,440 him, maybe Benejus Mathurin feels like that's a player who could really help them. 586 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,239 He would elevate their their three point shooting and maybe gives you like a 587 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,400 three and D archetype, someone who's has more. You know, he's not 588 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,039 gonna put as much D in it, but he's gonna actually have the three 589 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:45,480 ball a little bit more than a Herb Jones did. So they are a 590 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,559 team though, that could absolutely trade this trade this pick. They are looking 591 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,079 at a team that just gave the Phoenix suns hell in the first round of 592 00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:55,280 the playoffs. I know Phoenix was banged up. Hey, the Pelicans didn't 593 00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,360 have Zion Williamson. They're getting him back next season. Like that's that's huge. 594 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,840 Like you have CJ. McCollum, Brandon Ingram, Jonas Valanciunist, Larry 595 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,079 Nance Junior, Jackson Hayes came live. You're gonna get Kyra Lewis back. 596 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,960 There was the Trey Murphy, the third emergence towards the end of the year, 597 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,519 Herb Jones, Josy Alvarado. There's a lot of now talent on this 598 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:22,159 team, and so can you use this pick plus other salary to improve I 599 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:24,039 think you can, and you should absolutely consider it. You're in position to 600 00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:30,320 do some pretty funky things because you have these primary ball handlers in place, 601 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,480 effectively, all of whom can play off the Zion, which is probably the 602 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,480 hardest player to play off the ball of Brandon McCollum up, Brandon Ingram and 603 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,000 CJ. McCollum. At the same time, you can use him as a 604 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,480 ball screener if you want. And so all three of those guys can play 605 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,320 off the ball. All three of them can sort of be the primary engine 606 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,239 of your offense. That opens you up to use a lot of different things 607 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,239 everywhere else with the rest of your rotation. I've received pushback by saying I 608 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,960 think Miles Turner is a better fit for this team than Jonas Valanciunist in a 609 00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:01,559 vacuum Jansounci, this might be the better player. I think Miles Turner gives 610 00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:06,519 you more of what you need. I think he's underrated as a defend like 611 00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:09,719 a mobile defender. He's an elite rim protector. He's gonna his three point 612 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,960 volume is gonna supersede that of Unos Foundctunist and definitely at Jackson Hayes. I 613 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,599 get the concerns as rebounding. It's not I understand that it's not a no 614 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,960 brainer. I'm also not using this pick to give up my like I'm number 615 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,960 eight for Miles Turner in a contract year. I'm not doing it in a 616 00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,199 vacuum. But the framework there is that something to consider. I also understand 617 00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:34,400 me because you have you owns found Tunis and even Jackson Hayes and and even 618 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,559 Ziah Williamson at the five units in your back pockets, you really want to 619 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:40,880 expend such a big asset on a big man then, and so you would 620 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,519 rather go that is there another sort of point of attack guy, probably more 621 00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:49,440 perfectly a bigger wing that'll space the floor and unlock some of these different lineups 622 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,639 and help improve our shooting. Again, it's a situation where I don't know 623 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,280 who the target should actually be. That's something we can get into detail later. 624 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,360 But is there a team that's thinking about a pivot? I mean you 625 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,920 immediately think of Utah, and there's just you know, I don't know that 626 00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:07,599 New Orleans shouldn't have any interest in Donovan Mitchell. It shouldn't have any interest 627 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,960 in Regal Bear. That would be a that would be a free and wild 628 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:15,760 fit. So you go through what could potentially be available to them, and 629 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,280 maybe it's just not worth. Maybe you hang on in this pick and again, 630 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,159 like I said, try and just bolster and augment your your current perimeter 631 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:28,800 rotation, just because I feel like the trade market is going to be busier 632 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,679 than normal. But there could sort of be this like shortage of stardom and 633 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,639 I don't know that is this a pick that you want to trade and parlay 634 00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,719 it into like two or three rotation players depending on who you're giving up. 635 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:42,920 Is it so valuable Where it's the Devonte gramdial, it doesn't look all that 636 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,800 hot now, So you're attaching him to something and with you know, a 637 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,280 Kira Lewis maybe, and you're you're getting someone the super intriguing back. I 638 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,360 would just expect them to explore all sorts of avenues here. I know that 639 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,719 even DeAndre and his name is a cropped up in circles. And if you 640 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,800 were using number eight as the set piece and any sign and trade, no, 641 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,880 and I'm not doing it, And you have to go through too many 642 00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:08,079 hoops to create the cap space necessary, I wouldn't even think it's It's really 643 00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:13,760 not that possible. You have Zion Williamson for thirteen point five, then you 644 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,000 know CJ. McCollum and Brandon Ingram combined are making about sixty five million dollars, 645 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,480 so you're into seventies right there. You're gutting a big portion of your 646 00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,440 roster to get to his thirty point five million max. And that would just 647 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,639 given the number of players you would have to move, that's just so many 648 00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:35,599 hoops to jump through. And again I I'm trying to rack my brain for 649 00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,719 maybe players that can trade for I don't hate Jeremy Grant of New Orleans. 650 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,920 Again, the number eight pick is so much to give up for him, 651 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,199 and that's where you get into this, all right. I could definitely see 652 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:49,360 players being available, even John Collins maybe worth the number eight pick, but 653 00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:52,559 like, is that someone you want playing alongside Zion and then you have Joan 654 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:57,400 his found tunas already that doesn't Collins is probably close. He's a one point 655 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,719 five position player. I don't think he's as one position as some of the 656 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,760 other players we've seen come through the NBA at points at the same time, 657 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,760 that would be a hard fit, and he's one of the better players that 658 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,599 I think you can envision teams trading over the off season. So unless the 659 00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:15,039 Bucks are also going to pivot and be like, hey, we're getting rid 660 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:19,639 of Chris Middleton, which would just be just absurd on their part, and 661 00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,719 that's an opportunity like that arises. I don't know what there's gonna be for 662 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,480 New Orleans, but they at a point where I think they can start taking 663 00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:30,760 some win now swings. And look if Toronto was sitting there and they're willing 664 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,679 to give up Ogian and Obe with number eight, and they think there's like 665 00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:37,119 a wing in this area that that fits their need, and you can attach 666 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:40,400 some other stuff here to get Og that is the player man him, Herb 667 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,039 and Jose Alvarado within the same rotation. That defense could be absurd. I 668 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:50,440 get you'd still probably worry about the floor spacing, but and look, I'm 669 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,679 not saying the Raptors should get rid of Og. There was some stagnancy, 670 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,559 it felt like when he was healthy on offense this year, and I think 671 00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:00,199 just having Scotty Barnes, Pascal Siakam, Fred van Fleet, even gart Trent 672 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,000 Junior or to a lesser extent, has sort of complicated his role there long 673 00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:09,480 term. So I'm just gonna continually throw his name in there just because I'm 674 00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:13,239 his future seems so muddy. I don't think, and I don't think New 675 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,960 Orleans now they have CJ. McCollum should or needs to be a Bravey Beal 676 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,079 or zach Lavine destination if it gets to that point, and they definitely don't 677 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,360 need to be. Forget Miles Turner and free simes. Like if you're looking 678 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,519 through any restricts free agents, including eight, and that's not on the table. 679 00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:28,159 It'd probably be a smaller move. Or maybe it's they're moving back while 680 00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:32,000 picking up a player in the rotation of this draft and shout out to the 681 00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:36,880 Lakers for giving the Pelicans this pick. Again, the Lakers won a championship. 682 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,800 Pat Bev will point out the Bubble championship, but you all know on 683 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,920 this podcast, I think Pat Bev is insufferable at this point. But San 684 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,840 Antonio Spurs, I'd be shocked if they traded this pick at number nine. 685 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,320 I don't know who they're going to draft, or they an AJ Griffin team? 686 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,519 Do they take if he's still on the board. Did they go with 687 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:57,960 the Benedict Mathin? They have like this log jam of swingman and wings? 688 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,960 Though? Do they go joll Durin if they don't know that jacolm Peartle is 689 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,039 long for them? He is entering the final year of his contract or is 690 00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:08,440 he have two lefts? He has the final year of his contract at nine 691 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,920 point four million. Man, that dude making less than mid level of money 692 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,079 is wild. I think they just go, you go best player available here. 693 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,119 They're in a weird spot though, unless you view jan Day Murray as 694 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,280 best player on a contender material and maybe you do. Is this the spot 695 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,519 where they can even get that second best guy? Do you think that Devin 696 00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:30,559 Vassell or Josh Primo or Keldon Johnson's going to be that guy? I don't 697 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:35,559 know. I would probably been against a number two on a contender. They're 698 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,880 in this weird spot. I'm not telling them to blow it up, but 699 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,599 they do kind of feel like they're right for do we go the consolidation route 700 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,199 or is they're more tearing down to do? Here you get into the teardown 701 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,239 discussion, it's like, well, you're starting to say some pretty reckless things 702 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,239 here. Are you talking about Murray because McDermott Richardson even peartle that doesn't count 703 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,039 as tearing it down? And are you really selling this early on a Keldon 704 00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:00,960 Johnson or Devin Vassell. I expect this first to probably just chug along here. 705 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,280 Do they maybe take a bigger swing at the nine spot just because they 706 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,480 have the flexibility to be okay? And they're really in the market for a 707 00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:15,519 blue chip building block And I don't like nine is not the spot they were 708 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:19,880 typically going to get that at what conversations trade conversation would they try and wedge 709 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,679 themselves into though they do have I think it's they have three first round picks 710 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,840 in this draft. Just absolutely something up, so they have at least two. 711 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,159 I couldn't remember it was three or not. I'll check my notes as 712 00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:32,599 I'm going through this. Yeah, they have three, so they could do 713 00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:36,599 some consolidation. Like they a team that could move up, you like, 714 00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,920 offer all three of those twenty five, twenty and nine. I don't. 715 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,199 I don't know how far are you're gonna move up, which teams are gonna 716 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,719 entertain that offer, But it's something that they could consider. I would. 717 00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:52,039 I just don't. I think they're going to be rather uninteresting on draft night. 718 00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,119 They could be built for consolidation trade. They do have sort of the 719 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:58,159 young talent plus the pick equity to get involved if a star becomes available. 720 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,119 I would absolutely love Zachafine or Rady Bill there. If either one of them 721 00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:05,719 shows an inclination will leave their current team, Do the Spurs get involved? 722 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:09,440 Maybe? Other than that, they'll probably I have to go with the best 723 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,320 player available or the highest ceiling player available. Ten. The Wizards another interesting 724 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,800 team just because they're just they're at ten. What does this mean? Can 725 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,159 they draft someone who's an instant fit alongside alongside Bradley Bill. And yes, 726 00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:27,360 this is a team that has to consider fit because they've decided they want to 727 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,119 rebuild around Bradley Bial that they're going to maxim out and if they're not, 728 00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:34,400 does that start trickling out around the draft and how does that change their approach? 729 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,920 So I think you probably need to go they need another guard in there. 730 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,360 I don't think this is the spot to get it to get him, 731 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,480 excuse me, so you probably I would just default to they have wings available 732 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,440 and heavier supply. But I would just default to the wings again, whether 733 00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:52,119 that's going to be a j Griffin, is it going to be again at 734 00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:57,320 Benedick mathin a Jeremy Socket Like, it's just I would go with one of 735 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,119 those players, or even a Dyson Daniels. And you do have Kuzma entering 736 00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:06,360 a contract year continus called a pope non gear or teeth salary. I would 737 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,719 expect him to pick it up. He's entering a contract year. We have 738 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,639 Denny Avdia, you have Ruy Hatchamore. We don't really know what he is, 739 00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,639 but he's entering a contract year. He's extension knowledgeable, right now, 740 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,599 there could be guys that are on the way out, or if you wish 741 00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:21,079 to make sort of a consolidation trade, we so him like a big swing 742 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,519 with christops Porzingis. I think that's the rout you go. If you're watching 743 00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:27,480 it, just draft the wing, figure out the rest later. They tend 744 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,519 to be plug in play anyway. Do you need another creator on this team 745 00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:35,239 outside of bradleybal I do not think that creator is on in the rotation right 746 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,760 now. If you think it's Kyle Kuzman's continious called loow pope, I mean, 747 00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:42,760 bless you, and look, it's not Chris stops porzing Is, Like 748 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,000 we don't need to see Chris osporzing Is create a ton for himself. Is 749 00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:49,280 the third or fourth like level creator. If you need to throw the ball 750 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,760 to him there, fine. I trust his face up game probably more than 751 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,480 I do his post up game. But the Wizards, if you are committed 752 00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:02,119 to continuing with the beal, I think that the move here is to just 753 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,280 draft someone who can play right away and it's going to be a fit. 754 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,880 And I think you just do that on the Wings because that seems like the 755 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,039 smartest bet given the current functional landscape. In the NBA, the Nicks at 756 00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,119 number eleven, they're probably going they're gonna they're gonna trade this pick. I 757 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:20,280 don't even know who they draft. Is it a wing, it's gonna be 758 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,639 a wing or a big here they're they're big men, rotation. It's just 759 00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:28,519 all sorts of weird. Mitchell Robinson entering free agency Newryland's noell not a long, 760 00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,320 long term answer. He's entering what's technically the final year of his deal 761 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,719 because there's a team option on season number three? Do you view Jericho Sims? 762 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,400 Is this this answer? At the five? Obie topp And is not 763 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,119 a five? Julius Reynolds not a five. They don't like to play either 764 00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,079 of them at the five. I wouldn't use this pick on a Jalen durn 765 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,480 And maybe Charlotte hopes that as well. This just feels like inevitable. They're 766 00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:54,840 gonna move this pick for fucking I don't even know. Like Terrence Ross, 767 00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:00,239 I think it was more from the NBA podcast told me on Twitter with it. 768 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,480 I don't know who they would actually move to stick forward, it feels 769 00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:06,199 like that will very much be in play. I don't know if they're gonna 770 00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:07,880 be a team that can go star hunting if you find out that Zach Lemide 771 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,000 or Bradley Belle wants to come to your team. I've been pretty pro that. 772 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,320 I think the Knicks should really take a step back, reset offload a 773 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,800 ton of these veterans, beginning first and foremost was Julius Randol, Evan Fournier, 774 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,400 and go from there, just because those are the two guys that have 775 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:27,840 guaranteed money extending beyond next season on their deals. The Knicks don't think like 776 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,119 that, and maybe some player becomes availablehere it makes sense to throw all your 777 00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:34,800 eggs in the basket. I don't view Donovan Mitchell's that player. I want 778 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,800 to make that clear. Damian Millard is that player. I think he's probably 779 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:43,320 too old to treat him like that player, and that makes the Knicks Knicks 780 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,719 fascinating. Or you're willing to move number eleven independently or with only a few 781 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,960 other pieces as part of a trade for a nonstar ton of it probably depends 782 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,159 on who's available number eleven for Jeremy Grant. If that's the framework you're you're 783 00:48:55,159 --> 00:49:00,159 looking at, that's something that's at least I think you can talk yourself to 784 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,599 considering, I don't think you're gonna love it with the idea of having to 785 00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:07,400 pay Jeremy Grant and it feels like sort of an aimless move. He at 786 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,239 least does fit some of the stuff that they need, which is they need 787 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,760 more defense on this team, and maybe look Quentin Grimes, Deuce McBride, 788 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,400 they give you hustle there. RJ. Barrett got a lot better in the 789 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,920 year two. I would say it's mostly later on in year three he was 790 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,199 overtaxed there. Maybe cam Reddish is something, But I feel like the Knicks 791 00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:30,400 are gonna prioritize more proven performers because that's what they've always done, and whatever 792 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,159 big name ambles onto the market, they're invariably going to be linked to. 793 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,519 I expect this pick just to be tossed around a bunch. If I had 794 00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:39,920 to pick a position or area of me that I think they're gonna focus on, 795 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,679 they're probably steering clear of a guard I would I'm gonna bet on a 796 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,679 wing. I'm gonna bet on a wing. I could see them going with 797 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:55,280 a big in jail and durn But I aside from that, like your Mark 798 00:49:55,320 --> 00:50:00,320 Williams, maybe who knows. I'm gonna guess that they go with a two 799 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,679 or three, someone that they can sort of pair with RJ. Barrett on 800 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,440 the perimeter and will be more of a defensive specialist than not. After number 801 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,840 eleven we have Okay, see at twelve already did them Charlotte, they should 802 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,360 probably draft a big or this is a pick that I would expect to be 803 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:21,280 involved in trade talks as well. They remain a Miles Turner team destination. 804 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,079 If he is going to be traded. You have number thirteen. You have 805 00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:27,079 number fifteen as well, so they can move both of those after the draft. 806 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:30,599 Technically the Steppian rule is it matters. I want to make that clear. 807 00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:34,159 But like when you have picks coming this year that you can't technically trade 808 00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:37,840 right now, you can still just move them after the fact is actual salaries. 809 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,239 So are they going to be a Mark Williams team? Are they gonna 810 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,039 go be a jail and during team? I don't know. They have Kai 811 00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:45,199 Jones sitting here. Maybe they believe in him, and so you don't want 812 00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:50,000 a draft a big. I'm not saying you plan around having Mason Plumbly resigning 813 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,119 Montrez Harold, but it does start to get if you draft another big. 814 00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:55,719 So I guess you don't believe that Ky Jones is the answer, which is 815 00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,360 fine if you're gonna make that admittance, I could get a little walky if 816 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,559 you're just drafting here, I would think you need to be sure that that 817 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:05,920 center can play for you right away. Otherwise I'd like to see them go 818 00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:10,000 wing here because their wing rotation is just kellyer Bridge Jr. He's a wing. 819 00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:13,480 I guess you would call me Miles Bridges is ann wing. PG Washington 820 00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:15,599 is not a wing. But I don't know what James bok Knight is. 821 00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:16,360 He feels like more of a swing man than when you watching the games. 822 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,480 So Cody Martin and kellyer Bridge JI like those are your wings. There's Gordon 823 00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:22,320 Hayward two. He doesn't seem like he's long for this team. It'd be 824 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,800 classic Knicks to give up the number eleven pick in a Gordon Hayward trade. 825 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,159 By the way, but anyway, I digress. Can you use this to 826 00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:34,280 get a big though? So Rudy Gobert is available, maybe click Appela will 827 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,880 be available in Atlanta. If on Ka Congo is available in Atlanta, that's 828 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,920 someone I'd be looking out. If shit, if John Collins is available, 829 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,719 I'm probably not looking at that if I'm keeping Miles Bridges, but click appela 830 00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:52,079 On, Yaka Congou, Rudy Gobert, and Miles Turner, Like those are 831 00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:54,920 the bigger name bigs that I think we can all envision hitting the market. 832 00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,239 I don't the voods becomes available in Chicago, that's just a you steer year 833 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,840 of that. If you're Charlotte. Does Charlotte get involved and then DeAndre and 834 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,960 Sez they don't have cap space but would have to be assigned and trade That 835 00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:10,039 gets really finicky. I don't know that, Like why is Phoenix gonna want 836 00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:13,880 in Cord Like, let's just use the you have to figure out the math 837 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,800 and this later. But Gordon Hayward and the number eight, excuse me, 838 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:23,400 the number thirteen pick like just for that. This feels like more of a 839 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,840 Miles Turner situation, Like number thirteen and fifteen, She's like great framework to 840 00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:31,079 like between thirteen fifteen, James Book, Knight, Kai Jones, it's just 841 00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:35,320 and salary filler. It just feels and even PJ. Washington like it just 842 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,400 feels like that would be the move that Charlotte should be the most likely Miles 843 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:45,679 Turner destination if he is available. Otherwise, will they draft a big? 844 00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:46,960 I think they should draft a wing, And there seems like there's going to 845 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,400 be plenty of wings still available in this spot anyway, So to me, 846 00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:55,119 if if I'm them, you might as well go that route. This wouldn't 847 00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:59,880 be something I'm curious about, and I wouldn't give up the pick for this. 848 00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:01,920 And maybe he's not a good enough rebounder. Maybe you don't want him 849 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,440 playing in a on a team that's looking to run. But he's playing on 850 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,760 a team that likes to run. Now a Brook Lopez like justin Milwaukee, 851 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,519 sort of looking at their books, they have to resign pat Connet him. 852 00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:14,519 They've just seen what sort of happened, and they'd rather beef up the four 853 00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:19,400 spot, knowing that the Jannis is sort of the biggest player on the court, 854 00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:21,920 or the Yannis as the day fact, the five day fact, they'll 855 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,840 bike, whatever you want to call it is the future for them. Is 856 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,920 that a name you look at if it's not, if it's not costing you 857 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,519 this pick. I was just a sort of another stop gap. Maybe you're 858 00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,760 drear drafting a big here, and then you're just gonna go get Rolo was 859 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,280 sort of a more fitting stop gap, someone you could throw the ball too 860 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,760 in the post. He's gotten away from his three point volume, but he 861 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,000 could still shoot it, knows how to hang around the dunker spot, and 862 00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:43,599 he looks he's still a pretty good defender. I don't think he's gonna anchor 863 00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:45,920 anything, but he'd be He'd be an upgrade over Mason Plumley. Just random 864 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,199 food for thought. I'm not saying Horns fans, please just want to make 865 00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:54,199 this clear. I'm not saying that he should be like this team's primary target, 866 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,880 like as a as a trade target heading into the offseason. If you 867 00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:02,480 want to sign someone, there's Mitchell Robinson, Nick Claxton are sort of staring 868 00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:07,119 you right in the face there. Wendell Carter Junior would be interesting if or 869 00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:08,440 Lando decides that they want to move on from him, or maybe you look 870 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,760 at signing Mo Bamba. If Jonathan Isaac was healthy, I know he doesn't 871 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,159 play a ton of five, but that dude. Pair him with Miles Bridges. 872 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,760 You have a lot of athleticism there, and I think Isaac could do 873 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,920 a fine job defending the five. Might really have something. The other day, 874 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,119 of course he would look at it. Rashawn Holmes, he's okay on 875 00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:30,880 defense. I think he's probably underrated for his mobility in his room protection. 876 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:37,360 When I give up number thirteen, no number fifteen, maybe maybe can we 877 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,599 get Justin Holidays part of that deal or something or just something else from Sacramento 878 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,400 or maybe even not Rachada Holmes is still in one of the most underrated He's 879 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,559 still one of the most underrated players in the league. He's on a really 880 00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:52,840 good contract. If you're a team, I would do number fifteen for him, 881 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,280 And yeah, I think as like the primary framework there, I would 882 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,440 absolutely consider if you need to extract something else, someone else you could try 883 00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:05,639 and like Justin Holliday's fine, what are you giving up as part of this? 884 00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:07,320 I mean, look, the Kings could use a Gordon Hayward, But 885 00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:13,119 is Gordon Hayward in fifteen for Rashawn and you can't, Look, you can't 886 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,199 Maybe a math work here is impossible for Sacramento. They're like a team that 887 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:20,079 doesn't have cap space, but it like it doesn't have a meaningful cap space. 888 00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:22,639 We could techinically have cap space depending on how they use their books. 889 00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:27,679 So are giving up Terror's year in that deal, I wouldn't give up Kelly 890 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,400 Uberdy junior in fifteen. It feels like a lot for Rashaun Holmes. I'm 891 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,880 not gonna lie because if Ubery might be especially with Cody Martin Martin Hitney restricted 892 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,639 free agency, he could be your best wing defender. But Shawn Holmes would 893 00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,199 just be a name to keep an eye on there. Of course, if 894 00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:44,320 the Spurs we're thinking about giving up Yaka Purtle and they're like really trying to 895 00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:46,440 hit reset there, that's absolutely something that you could look at. And I 896 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:52,719 already mentioned Riego Bart. The final team, the Cleveland Cavaliers, who we're 897 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,679 pretty good this year relative expectations and definitely relative to all the injuries that they 898 00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:01,239 suffered. They just need they need a wing, probably one who can shoot, 899 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,519 and if it gives you secondary shot creation, that's great, But they 900 00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:07,320 need like an actual wing who's an offensive upgrade I think over Isaaco Coro. 901 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,960 They won't be a defensive upgrade over Isaaco Coro. They could almost I know 902 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,239 a lot of people I think have built at least at what I've seen from 903 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,159 the twitters to build them is maybe a good Johnny Davis team so that's something 904 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:22,000 to maybe maybe consider there. I don't know if, like, I don't 905 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,079 know how much Creedans you can give to that. They could also look at 906 00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:29,800 moving this pick because of the timeline that they've sort of slingshot themselves into. 907 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,719 Since Darius Garland and Jared down are so good, Since Evan Mobile's already transcended 908 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,280 on defense, you have Caro Silvert. What are you doing with context and 909 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,079 entering restricted free agency? You have a Coro on this team. There was 910 00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:45,199 the Kevin Love resurgence. Does that make Larry market inexpendable already? You could 911 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,840 do some really interesting things. Again, I don't know what wings are available 912 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,320 here. This is a team though, that could maybe talk themselves into going 913 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:59,079 after Jeremy Grant really lean into the defense of it all salary plus number fourteen 914 00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:01,800 in a German Grant style trade. I don't think Detroit is gonna have interest 915 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,039 in the Colin Sexton sign and trade. I'd be a little bit floored. 916 00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:09,119 There would you do? Oh, Coro and fourteen for Jeremy Grant. It's 917 00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:14,199 a great question. I'm just gonna throw I'm going to throw it here to 918 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,840 the room at large. It feels sort of like a tad Rich maybe because 919 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,599 of the mystery box appeal of the number fourteen pick, but Jeremy Grant, 920 00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:28,039 I think it's important. Note is a pretty massive upgrade offensively over Isaac oh 921 00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:30,360 Coral. The you do just you have to get into and there needs to 922 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,239 be other money here. I want to make that clear involved, But you 923 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,800 have to think about paying him. I don't know. That's just a name 924 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,159 that brings to mind here for me. If you're going to keep the pick 925 00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:44,119 though draft draft and wing hope that he can sort of upgrade your half court 926 00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:50,079 offense specifically, you are entering weird times where Caro Silvert's extension knowledgeable, Colin 927 00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:53,760 Sexton restricted free agent. What if you lose one or both of them over 928 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,000 the next two years, and even if you keep one, even you keep 929 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,719 both, there's no guarantee that like just because I don't think those three players 930 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,079 fit on the floor. You could certainly try it against certain teams. I'm 931 00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:09,119 probably not trying it in high doses, especially because you know they've skewed big 932 00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:14,199 Like that's the model that worked really well with Evan Mobley and Jared Allen. 933 00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:19,559 I just wouldn't expect to see a lot of those three guard type units and 934 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,239 carousel vert isn't wing enough for me to classify him as one. I would 935 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,360 go with a wing that you hope and kind of even if you're taking sort 936 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:30,519 of just a swing here that can help your shooting. Does he need to 937 00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:32,519 put the ball on the floor. I mean, he doesn't even need to 938 00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,800 be a creator, just someone who's gonna upgrade your shooting, and functional shooting 939 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,880 is always better. Maybe he can. I'll be out with your rebounding because 940 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:45,239 they had some really weird rebounding just stretches with this team for a team that 941 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,159 did have Jared Allen and Evan Mobley. So that might also be why there 942 00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:52,679 are those that love Johnny Davis for the Calves, because I do know based 943 00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:55,440 on the scouting reports that he's that I've read, he's supposed to be a 944 00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:00,000 really good rebounder. I don't know with the Calves like could do beyond that, 945 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,039 though You're you're you're with the number fourteen pick and you have the incentive 946 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:07,519 to maybe do some weird things there, but you need the right players to 947 00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:09,239 become available. And this is the issue we've continuously run into, is like 948 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,519 you the players that are available the ones that you want, they either don't 949 00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:15,960 exist, they're not coming on the market, or you're not giving up number 950 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:22,360 fourteen to get like Marcus Morris Senior. That's just not something that you're you're 951 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,679 going to do. So like how out has it led on DeAndre Hunter? 952 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,639 Is there something there? And can teams get involved? Here? Doesn't Land 953 00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,679 even care about getting a pick? Because now if DeAndre hunters on the table, 954 00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:37,320 there's like every team should just be like looking like in the you know, 955 00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:39,519 the Spurs at number not like is that maybe that's too much to give 956 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,400 up, But like the Pelicans looking at DeAndre Hunter, maybe not. He 957 00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:47,880 really flailed this year, So I don't know. I would expect the Calves, 958 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,280 though, to do their due diligence in shopping this pick just because they 959 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,440 are on It doesn't need to be a window timeline. But you've paid Jared 960 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,880 Allen, you're good enough to hang around the playoff rockets in the East all 961 01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:04,199 ready. I think you continue down that path and if you don't repeating myself 962 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,280 here, take a wing and see if you can integrate him into the rotation 963 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,840 given minutes off the bench next year. And that's also the luxury of having 964 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,119 so many bona fide NBA players in place right now, is that whoever you 965 01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:20,159 draft can come along more slowly. They don't need to be baptized by fire. 966 01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:22,519 Maybe it's sort of a tramer for the third situation, New or Leans, 967 01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:24,280 where he didn't see the court consistently for so long, came on and 968 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:29,760 boom, it just clicked for him, getting that those practice reps under his 969 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,519 belt. So that's the luxury of what Cleveland has right now. Even if 970 01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:37,000 they're not a playoff team, you can make progress and have a worse record 971 01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:40,320 next year. Progress is not linear. The Eastern Conference could be more terrifying 972 01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:44,159 next season if you look at who's healthy, who's going for it, or 973 01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:45,840 the Knick's better, or the Wizard's better, or the Pacers a lot better. 974 01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:49,440 There are a lot of different things that the Cavs could do. I 975 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,880 don't think there's a wrong answer here unless they go just settle for a lower 976 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,719 quality player in a trade. That'll do it for me. I hope you 977 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,519 enjoyed this. We'll be getting into more playoff talk as these the conference finals 978 01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:05,440 go down. We did throw up our previews, so if this is Wednesday 979 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,800 morning, you're listening to this. You haven't seen Game one of MAM's Warriors 980 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,480 yet, go check that out with Watch Reports Grant Hughes. We'll get into 981 01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:14,920 those games a little bit more. I will say my Game one takeaways for 982 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,639 the Boston Celtics. They should play fucking better in the third quarter. Everything 983 01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:23,800 just from turnovers, not boxing out throwing these lazy ass passes really came back 984 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,400 to bite them. Jimmy Butler outscored them seventeen to fourteen the third quarter by 985 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,559 himself. They let Miami get in transition way too frequently, and I'm talking 986 01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:36,280 even after makes of the few makes that they had to lose that quarter thirty 987 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,079 nine to fourteen to win the other three. Okay, great out of boys, 988 01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:42,840 but you need to tighten things up there because the Heat They're not a 989 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,920 team that you can just willy nilly dribble around or throw these I don't even 990 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,119 know that they are telegraphed passes, but they felt like pointless passes. And 991 01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:52,880 when you have the you know, the Heat perimeter defenders playing so far up, 992 01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:57,599 you have to be just more meticulous with the ball and shout out to 993 01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:00,960 just the Heat's depth or old people giving them some good defensive minutes. Max 994 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,519 Strusse was fantastic. Gabe Vincent has a really big place for them. This 995 01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,480 is a team I thought was too shallow. Talked about this in the preseason 996 01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:10,199 look Ahead mentioned a little bit at the beginning of the season, and then 997 01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:14,960 after that it was never mentioned again because they are clearly deep enough. They 998 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,000 have admirable depth Boston. Things should get easier if you get Al Horford and 999 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,480 Marcus Smart back by game three. They'll certainly be able to help you on 1000 01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:28,079 the defensive side. I don't know the Marcus Smart will help you limie your 1001 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,599 turnovers there more at all. Al Horford certainly will. We're just going from 1002 01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:34,880 the Aaron E. Smith minutes to Marcus Smart minutes and then from the Daniel 1003 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,760 teismanus to Al Horford minutes. Those will be a natural organic bump. I 1004 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:42,760 thought Robert Williams the third dough before he he got hurt later in the game. 1005 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,639 I don't think it was anything serious, it was a cramp or something. 1006 01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:47,000 Actually haven't seen an update on that. I thought he played pretty well. 1007 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,119 So the Southis are not out of this, but they need to play 1008 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,559 smarter. You can't afford to have these just meltdowns against teams as good as 1009 01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:58,199 good as the heat. That'll do it for me. 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