WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:04.320 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI AM six forty the Gary 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:09.160 and Shannon Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. President Biden has officially dropped 3 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:13.759 out of the race. He endorsed Vice President Harris to become his replacement yesterday, 4 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:18.839 not guaranteed that that happens. Although the party seems to have coalesced pretty 5 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.879 heartily behind her, she's still going to have to win the support of enough 6 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:26.760 delegates heading into the DNC in order to become the official nominee. Joe Manchin 7 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:31.879 says he does not plan to run for president. He went on CBS Mornings. 8 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.079 Former Democrat recently became an independent, says he has no plans to run 9 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:40.759 for office, but called on Democrats to hold a mini primary to find the 10 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:46.960 strongest candidate to defeat Donald Trump in November. That ain't gonna happen. I 11 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:50.880 would really like there to be a mini primary. Well, for one thing, 12 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:55.600 it's a democratic it's a democratic the PA. That's the part is that 13 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.119 I think a lot of people are having a hard time swallowing, which is 14 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.880 so many times in the party structure, both sides, but so many times 15 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:06.439 in this party structure. They jam people down our throats. They're not the 16 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:10.879 people that we want. Yeah, they're the people that the party thinks would 17 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:15.799 be due for the next promotion or whatever. Ciating And that's not how we 18 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.560 should elect people in this country. Who's up next? Who's up next for 19 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:23.719 this full time position? Right? Who would be the first blank to be 20 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.159 in the blank? But that's government. You know, it goes back to 21 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:32.799 the Peter principle. Right, you just keep getting promoted until you are wildly 22 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:40.680 ineffective in your current position. Yeah. Case in point, Kamala Harris promoted, 23 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:44.000 promoted, promoted, promoted, just for the sake of promoting people. 24 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.959 State Democratic Party chairs yesterday through their weight behind Vice President Harris to be the 25 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:55.439 new presidential nominee. The chairs held a big conference call after Joe Biden had 26 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:59.560 announced that he was stepping aside. There was also a discussion that Kamala Harris 27 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.799 is on the phone with just about everybody. Every power player in the Democratic 28 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:07.439 Party was getting a phone call from the Vice president yesterday as she tried to 29 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:14.000 whip up support and make sure that everybody was on her side. Not a 30 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.439 huge surprise, but again, most of the people who had been listed as 31 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:22.520 potential candidates if Biden was to step down, Gavin Usom, Gretchen Whitner, 32 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.159 Josh Shapiro, Andy Basheer, all of these people, all of them have 33 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.919 thrown their support behind Kamala Harris, and Andy Basheer is the only one I 34 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:35.759 know who outright said he would entertain the idea of running with her as a 35 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.479 running mate. Well, yes, you will not win, but you will 36 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:46.719 get the name recognition that you want to carry into twenty twenty eight. Yeah, 37 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:51.960 elevate yourself to a national presence now being a writer. Die for what 38 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.199 were mains of the ticket, and people talk about you in four years and 39 00:02:55.240 --> 00:03:00.000 then right you'll do the circuit of all the talk shows. Write a book. 40 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:01.199 You're right here. We gotta write it where we've got to write that 41 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:10.439 autobiography, Hide the sins, Whitewasher, Pass Silk would scrub that, get 42 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:14.719 rid of all, get rid of the crack pipes, embarrassing photos of yourself 43 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:19.520 from college, all that good stuff. While this is all going on, 44 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:24.599 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin at Yahoo arrives in DC today right into this I mean 45 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:32.599 absolutely crazy eight day cycle that we have seen. Insanity. It's going to 46 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:36.439 be his first trip to d C in almost four years, and obviously his 47 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:40.680 first trip abroad since the October seventh attack of Hamas onto Israel that led to 48 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:46.159 the current war in Gaza. I wanted to point this out before we get 49 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:51.439 to the Trump side of it, that according to the Harris campaign, they 50 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:57.759 said everyday Americans have given forty nine point six million dollars in grassroots donations to 51 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:02.439 her campaign since the announcement just yesterday after Well for us yesterday morning, the 52 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:10.039 campaign changed its Federal Election Commission Committee name to Harris for President, which basically 53 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:15.120 a lot because her name was on it originally, or it was part of 54 00:04:15.160 --> 00:04:20.480 it originally. She gets to keep the ninety six million dollars in campaign finances. 55 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:25.680 That's a huge win for her. I think that's also part of the 56 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:30.160 part of the reason why Democrats basically had to coalesce behind her because of the 57 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.600 money thing. Yeah, but I wonder where we stand with that, because 58 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:40.120 remember that money was frozen, the ninety million dollars in Biden's final days on 59 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:44.879 this campaign. The donor said, we're not spending that on you. Have 60 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:48.240 they agreed to spend it on her? Not everybody I know that there is 61 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:51.680 it I'd like to see a breakdown of that, And I mean they have 62 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:55.519 to be able to convince to your point, they have to they the party 63 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:59.959 has to be able to convince their funders, their fundraisers that this is a 64 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.839 viable thing, that this is an actual viable candidate running against. Like I 65 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:08.800 said, I used the term juggernaut earlier, but the momentum that Trump has 66 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:13.839 right now is a significant factor in whether they put money in this. They've 67 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:18.079 got to step on the gas with this appearances rallies. They need to go 68 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:23.439 full steam ahead if they're going to get pick up any traction. Elliott Ackerman 69 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:25.759 wrote a piece in The Atlantic that I want to talk about when we come 70 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:30.399 back. It's specifically about whether all of what we've seen in the last eight 71 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.279 days specifically, or you could even go back to the debate and say the 72 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:42.120 last three weeks, is this too early for to peak Trump to peak, 73 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.600 because I mean, we're reaching. He got a bump in the polls after 74 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.959 the debate, he got a bump after an assassination attempt. He's probably going 75 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:56.079 to get something of a drop a little bit just because of the notoriety and 76 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:00.720 the attention that's being paid to Kamala Harris, maybe this was too soon. 77 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.920 It's an interesting look at that. But also some of the people who have 78 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:08.800 decided that they are ride or die for Trump include a bunch of tech bros. 79 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:13.160 Garyan Shant. Well, that's probably because of Vance's ties to Silicon Valley. 80 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:16.439 It retally doesn't hurt. Yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on 81 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:23.879 demand from KFI AM six forty. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatles should be out 82 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:28.000 of a job, but there she is on Capitol Hill today talking to lawmakers. 83 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:31.959 You know, she had one quote I heard earlier about how while we 84 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:36.519 are nine days out of the attempted assassination, so we just don't know. 85 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:42.879 And I'm screaming to myself in the car. Nine days. You have had 86 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:47.759 nine days to dissect how a former president almost got his brains blown out and 87 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:53.639 you haven't come up with all the answers after nine days. That's a ridiculous 88 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:57.480 amount of time. You should have all your teas crossed and ies dotted. 89 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:02.959 She said this morning that the shooter was identified as a suspicious person before Trump 90 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:08.160 took the stage. She said that if the Secret ser Us believed the shooter 91 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:11.639 to be a threat. The detail would never have allowed him to go on 92 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:15.040 the stage, right, Okay, so let's break down that arbitrary nonsense. 93 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.560 What where do you go from suspicious to a threat? How do you make 94 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:23.279 that jump? And how long does it take? Right, if they had 95 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.399 eyes on this guy and knew that he was suspicious, he should have been 96 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:29.120 an hour before the shooter. Grimp should have never gotten on the stage. 97 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.560 You eliminate that person. Anybody suspicious, you eliminate them from the crowd. 98 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:39.279 I don't mean shoot that Wow. I'm not saying just take people out. 99 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:43.759 That guy's shoot, but remove him from the premises if he's suspicious before you 100 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.920 let the former president get on the stage. This is all common sense to 101 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:51.680 me. Having somebody on that roof common sense. Yeah, she was unable 102 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:55.920 to answer that question. It was one of the very first questions that James 103 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.399 Comer asked her during questioning, and not just the opening statement, which was 104 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.040 there was supposed to be somebody on that roof. You said in an interview 105 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.360 that it was because it was sloped. Also, I heard a new one 106 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:11.399 this morning where they said it was too hot, right, that maybe there 107 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:13.839 should have been someone on the roof, but it was it was real hot 108 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.519 day? Yeah? Come on. Meanwhile, the other four snipers that were 109 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.720 on the roofs behind the president were all dressed in all blacks, right, 110 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:26.199 also sitting on roofs that happened to be sloped. So well, I know 111 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:31.560 that you have read Carl von Klauswitz's on War, where he coined the term 112 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:39.519 culminating point Yep. Yes, this is an interesting military term that specifically points 113 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:46.200 to a threshold when a military advantage peaks but then quickly flips into a bunch 114 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.639 of disadvantages. Here's the example. Let's say your platoon has just taken a 115 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.919 hill. Okay, you're exhausted, you're excited, you've achieved your objective. 116 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:00.960 Your troops have sent the defeated enemy fleeing down the reverse slope of that hill. 117 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.240 You are triumphant on top of that hill, but psychologically, you're vulnerable 118 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:09.840 to believing two things. Number one that your victory is complete and number two 119 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.960 that your enemy no longer poses a meaningful threat, when in fact, they're 120 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:20.039 regrouping and they are going to come get you. Yeah. Elliot Ackerman wrote 121 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.440 a piece in the Atlantic about the campaign for Trump having peaked too soon, 122 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:30.000 and he specifically pointed this was actually written before Biden dropped out yesterday. It 123 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.919 was published yesterday morning. But again Biden didn't drop out until almost noon ten 124 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:41.960 five yesterday. He says, does alied Ackerman that Republicans were jubilant, they 125 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.679 were a little bit exhausted. Again, this is after Milwaukee, after the 126 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.720 convention. They had taken the hill on their way to the White House. 127 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:54.720 The photo of Trump and the immediate aftermath of the assassination attempt calls to mind 128 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.360 the most memorable image of a hill taking in American history, the battle at 129 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:03.159 Ewojima. You pointed that out that day or the next day when we were 130 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:09.679 here, and you said, it reminded you of that statue, of that 131 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:15.039 image. And I said, once they find that out, Once somebody in 132 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.720 the Trump orbit finds that out, make way for the merch, make way 133 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.639 for all the T shirts. Amazed that I haven't seen it yet, so 134 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:28.039 am I. But the thing is, they said, his basic point is 135 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:33.759 Milwaukee was the peak of what they were doing, because going into Milwaukee, 136 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.360 they had all of the goodwill, all of the prayers, all of the 137 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:43.720 thoughts, all of the concern he had picked a running mate. Now was 138 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:50.399 the time for them to see that culminating point and then consolidate the gains, 139 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:54.039 reach out to the whier swath of voters, just basically shore up the defenses 140 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.799 that they had, which was the momentum going into Milwaukee. But but then 141 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:01.799 he hit hit the gas pedal and JD. Vance and he was pretty combative 142 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.759 when he spoke to the country on that Thursday night. He made a mess 143 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:13.039 of that speech on the person he did. So I'm more inclined to not 144 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:18.440 believe in the culminating point. I believe you don't take your foot off the 145 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.440 gas. I think him choosing JD. Vance and his combative remarks were him 146 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:28.919 double down, doubling down on himself. Yeah, but that doesn't do anything 147 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.759 for his campaign. All he does is shore up the people who are already 148 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.960 going to vote for him. He needed to reach out. And again he's 149 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:39.960 ahead, so that you could argue, is he's he's still winning in the 150 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:46.000 polls right now, but he could he could get a couple extra insurance points, 151 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:50.639 you know, he could go out and steal that extra base or score 152 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.480 that extra goal and get a couple more points. By he's not going to 153 00:11:54.519 --> 00:12:00.759 alienate his own people by suggesting that we're a party of inclusion and we're you 154 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.519 know, we have a bigger, bigger tent than everybody. And it's counterintuitive, 155 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.000 that wasn't it, believing in the culminating point, You've just taken the 156 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.360 hill. You want to take all the hills. Give me more hills. 157 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.679 I'm going to press on, right. But you spread yourself, you want 158 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.200 to get tired of winning, You spread yourself too thin. Yeah, And 159 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:20.039 I think that's I mean, that's kind of what this guy is talking about. 160 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.279 That when you referred to von Klauswitz, of course, and it was 161 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:33.120 experience goes to show that reactions like that usually have disproportionate effects, the reaction 162 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.879 of we have done this high fiving all around, not paying attention to the 163 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:43.519 to the enemy regrouping. Now again, this was published before Biden dropped out, 164 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.960 and he makes a reference to it seems more and more likely that Joe 165 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:50.120 Biden would suspend his campaign, and if he does, Democrats have to return 166 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.399 to their first to the first principle of this race. Americans have always wanted 167 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.440 a choice other than Biden or Trump, and Democrats must provide them with that 168 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.799 choice in order to win. Is I'd love to ask Elliot Ackerman, is 169 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.559 Kamala Harris enough of a different choice than Joe Biden? And I don't just 170 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:13.200 mean physically politically. Is she different enough from Joe Biden to draw some of 171 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:18.480 those people to her, the ones who say I didn't want that guy, 172 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.200 and I certainly don't want that guy. No, because what has she done 173 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:30.399 on her own She's only just been Joe Biden adjacent for four years, five 174 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:35.360 years. I mean, aside from that, she's just been kind of leapfrogging 175 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.159 and just jumping from job to job. Yeah, I mean, I don't 176 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:45.159 even know her own thing is. She was in the primary for four minutes 177 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.360 and just got destroyed in it, just destroyed. Nobody wanted to back that, 178 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:56.360 nobody wanted to finance that run. Who knows, maybe she'll surprise us. 179 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.320 What do you mean now? I know as soon as I said that, 180 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.879 it was like cognitive dissonance. It's like, what are you saying? 181 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.840 Who said that? Who is that? Lady? We know what's going to 182 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.399 happen. We will play for you in a couple of minutes. Some of 183 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.600 the sound from this morning's hearing the US Secret Service Director in front of the 184 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.480 House Government Oversight Committee. It is not pretty. She's awful. It is 185 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.639 I don't know why she still has a job except for to be there today, 186 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.120 to just crap the bed more. That sounds fun. That sounds more 187 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:31.919 like me. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six 188 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:37.639 forty. Big news out of DC. This is not completely unexpected, but 189 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:45.519 former Speaker Nancy Pelosi has officially backed Vice President Harris to be the party nominee. 190 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:50.960 That's a big one. The endorsement is very significant. Obviously, Pelosi 191 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:56.320 played a key role in pressuring Joe Biden to rethink his decision to stay in 192 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.840 the race and held back her support. Immediately after he stepped down, offered 193 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:05.799 Harris his backing, but offered a full and this here's the term from the 194 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:11.679 Hill. Offered a full throated endorsement today. So this is what they had 195 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:20.480 to do. I'm actually a little bit shocked at the at the efficiency with 196 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.840 which the Democrats have not eaten each other. I kind of thought this was 197 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.559 just going to be a free for all, but they they seem to realize 198 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:35.600 the gravity of jumping behind her right away and riding or dying with Kamala Harris 199 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.039 which I did not think was going to happen. But again to this degree 200 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:43.519 that goes to how long have they known this? You know, how long 201 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:46.600 have they known that this was an inevitability. I mean you could say it 202 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.879 was a week ago, two weeks ago, three weeks ago, if you 203 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.840 want to get serious about it and say, Okay, they have to do 204 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.759 something. So they're going to have a plan in place when the trigger is 205 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.799 finally that's okay, I got to go away from the shooting things. When 206 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.879 the ball finally drops and Joe Biden finally announces that he's going to get out. 207 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.240 We need to be out there ready to move. There was no world 208 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.480 in which they were going to jump over Kamala Harris. They just couldn't. 209 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.360 Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think they could. All right, 210 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:19.639 So, in Washington, d C. The House Government Affairs Committee is 211 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:26.360 holding a hearing with the Director of the US Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle. 212 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.240 Jim Comer is the chair of the committee. The Secret Service has a zero 213 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:36.399 fail mission, but it failed on July thirteenth and in the days leading up 214 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:42.679 to the rally. The Secret Service has thousands of employees and a significant budget, 215 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:48.840 but it has now become the face of incompetence. Jamie Raskin is the 216 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.279 ranking member of the Democrat on the committee. He was known to be suspicious 217 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:57.240 before former President Trump took the stage. That is the information I've received. 218 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:03.039 Why was he allowed to take this stage with a suspicious person having been identified 219 00:17:03.079 --> 00:17:06.759 in the Crown Because I suck up my job. So I appreciate the question, 220 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:11.279 and I'd like to make two points. If the detail had been passed 221 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.359 information that there was a threat, the detail would never have brought the former 222 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.680 president out onto stage. That is what we do, and that is who 223 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:23.440 we are. We are charged with protecting all of our protectees. Are there 224 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.519 more I distinguished between someone who is suspicious and someone who's threatening? Is that 225 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:33.079 right? There are a number of times at protective events where suspicious people are 226 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:37.240 identified and those individuals have to be investigated and determined. What is no, 227 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:42.960 Why wasn't this guy investigated? How was a somebody labeled suspicious by you by 228 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:48.079 the Secret Service? How were they able to bring out a rifle and take 229 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.240 some shots of the former president. If somebody is suspicious, okay, so 230 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:56.000 you're not going to remove them, Okay, you let them stay there cool, 231 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:59.880 maybe investigate and see if they're armed. That seems to be the bear 232 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.119 minimum. Simple. He's already labeled suspicious and he gets to get away with 233 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.480 this. That's insane. Yeah, And I don't know it sounds the way 234 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:11.319 she's putting it, the way she's talking about it. Again, she's not 235 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.359 answering most of the questions. Most of the questions that are being asked of 236 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.720 her. She is responding with we're only nine days out. We're in the 237 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:23.440 middle of the investigation. We're waiting for the final results to come in days 238 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:30.200 and you're talking about the biggest failure in Secret Service history since JFK. She 239 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:36.799 has not she has not visited the site, and when asked originally in one 240 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:40.160 of the interviews why she hadn't visited the site in Butler, Pennsylvania to get 241 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:45.119 her own eyes on what that layout is, she said that it was the 242 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.480 FBI had it locked down as an active crime scene because they had to do 243 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.440 their investigation and they're mapping in their evidence collection and all that sort of stuff. 244 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.400 But that ended, I mean, that was a couple of days ago. 245 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:02.440 They lifted that lock down of the scene so she could easily go there 246 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:07.480 are pictures now of lawmakers that have been at the scene literally walking on the 247 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.680 same roof that carefully but walking on the same roof that the shooter was on. 248 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.799 I don't know what value it would have for her to go there just 249 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.440 to get a good whiff of the bed that she crept all over, probably 250 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:23.839 just take it all in better than her going to Milwaukee for the Republican National 251 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:29.279 Convention. I mean, she was there because she explained she was there because 252 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.359 there was a suite that was dedicated to, you know, the local security 253 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:37.400 people, and she wanted to come and thank them for the work that they 254 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.279 did to help secure the conventions. I just don't understand how a failure like 255 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:44.680 that could happen. And we haven't seen one head roll. I want to 256 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.519 see several A couple things we'll play when we come back, not only James 257 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:52.839 Comer again he talks about that sloped roof, you know, why would you 258 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.920 say that that was dangerous? And then a Democrat out of Massachusetts, and 259 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:03.440 again this is a bipartisan team that's going after her on this, asking about 260 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.200 the rangefinder that the guy apparently had. We'll do that when you come back. 261 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:11.240 Gary and Shannon will continue to you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand 262 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:15.400 from KFI AM six forty. All Right, the former, sorry maybe soon 263 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:19.920 to be former director of the US Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle, is testifying 264 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:26.599 in front of the House Committee today. I hope it's contentious. Yeah, 265 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.599 I mean the CNA, and I'm sorry about how contentious. I hope it's 266 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.400 contentious. And I hope that people on both sides of the aisle see this 267 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.839 woman for what she is, which is an abject failure at her job right 268 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.160 now, and push back on the things that she's been saying. She think 269 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:45.160 she's gonna weather this. Yes, that's insanity. Yeah, but that's what 270 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.200 happens with bureaucrats, right, They just keep getting promoted. So the questions 271 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:53.519 all surround what kind of breakdowns happened that allowed a twenty year old with a 272 00:20:53.640 --> 00:21:00.759 rifle within four hundred five hundred feet of the former president of the United States 273 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:04.720 and able to peel off a shot A couple shots, I should say, 274 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:11.920 one of them that hits the president in the ear, kills another bystander, 275 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.599 severely wounds two others that were in the crowd that day. And one of 276 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:18.759 the things that we know about was that the shooter was on a roof, 277 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:23.319 technically outside the perimeter, but well within an area that should have been guarded 278 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:30.559 by someone. So here's the chairman, James Comer, questioning her about all 279 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.759 of this. One of the things that you said, I believe in an 280 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:37.920 interview that there wasn't an agent on the roof because it was a slope roof. 281 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:44.319 Is that normal? And do you fear that that immediately creates an opportunity 282 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:48.599 for future would be assassins to look for a slanted roof. I mean, 283 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.640 this is a huge question that every American has. Why I wasn't a Secret 284 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.720 Service agent on the roof? And there have been reports that agents were supposed 285 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:00.000 to be on the roof but it was hot that day and they didn't want 286 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.480 to be wonder if can you answer any of those questions? Director? So 287 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.160 I appreciate you asking me that question. Chairman, I should have been more 288 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.039 clear in my answer when I spoke about where we placed personnel in that interview. 289 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.319 What I can tell you is that there was a plan in place to 290 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.400 provide overwatch, and we are still looking into responsibilities and who was going to 291 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:23.079 provide overwatch? Oh my god, get off the secret taste in general, 292 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:27.480 not speaking specifically to this incident. When we are providing overwatch, whether that 293 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:33.319 be through counter snipers or other technology. Bureaucrats go to school where you're taught 294 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.519 how to say nothing in the most words you could possibly use, just to 295 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:42.039 say nothing. Squeeze the squeeze the life out of the English language. Let 296 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:45.519 me for you answer a question. Yes, let me make seven hundred excuses 297 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:52.880 for the most singular failure of the Secret Service decades. This. Stephen Lynch 298 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.480 is a Democrat congressman out of Massachusetts, and he went after Kimberly Cheetah. 299 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.759 Did he have a rangefinder? There was some reports that that the individual had 300 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:06.920 a rangefinder that would that would certainly raise my suspicion. Did he have a 301 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:11.160 rangefinder? Yes he did, But may I explain that that I'm in a 302 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.519 member of our sites, especially when you're at outdoor venues, a rangefinder is 303 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.920 not a prohibited item. Now I can understand. I can understand that she's 304 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:23.839 saying it's not on a list of things that we wouldn't allow, but it 305 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:29.599 is raising a giant red flag. Why else would you have a rangefinder on 306 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.119 you? Suspicious? What are you gonna do. You're gonna pull out your 307 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.200 three iron for what a two and twenty yard shot? And that I wonder. 308 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:41.279 It's like saying, yeah, I watch a titleist at the president right 309 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:48.920 now and he had a silencer. But those aren't illegal. Nancy, Nancy, 310 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:51.319 this is probably going to be the highlight of the day and one of 311 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.480 those that's going to be played over and over again. And this is the 312 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:57.079 thing. Kimberly Cheetles got this, She's got an answer to. She's got 313 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:02.039 a Senate committee that's going to be investigating all of this, the independent committee 314 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.839 that's put together by Alejandro Majorcas. She's going to have a rough. She's 315 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.920 going to have a rough July. I'll tell you that this was Nancy Mace, 316 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:14.200 congresswoman out of South Carolina. I cut off the very first question, 317 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:17.599 but she's asking basically, have you turned over all of the stuff that we 318 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.000 have asked for as a committee? I would have to get back to you. 319 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:22.119 That is a no. You're full of shoot today, you're just being 320 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:30.000 completely dishonest. Mister. I, like Nancy mass we have to maintain dem 321 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:34.799 in this committee. Any do you provide any memos to this committee that we've 322 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:38.400 asked you on July fifteenth, have you provided all memorandas within the Secret Service? 323 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.000 I would have to get back to you. That is a no. 324 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.480 You are being dishonest or lying. You're being dishonest here with this committee. 325 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:49.480 These are important questions that the American people want answers to, and you're just 326 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:55.240 you're just dodging and talking around it in generalities. Yeah, and we had 327 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:56.799 a subpoena you to be here and you won't even answer the questions we have 328 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:02.480 asked you repeatedly to answer. Are questions. This isn't hard. These are 329 00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:04.279 not hard questions. Well, I mean some of them are hard questions that 330 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.519 she just doesn't want to answer. That's the other part about it. I 331 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.000 think it was funny. She's glad she called her. Have you provided all 332 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:12.240 memorandums within the Secret Service? I would have to get back to you. 333 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:17.119 That is a no. You were being dishonest or lying, which is the 334 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:22.799 same thing Jim Jordan, the congressman out of Ohio said earlier in his questioning, 335 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:30.559 you're either completely stupid or you're lying to us. He was talking specifically 336 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.640 about funding. It goes back to the Hillary Clinton classified emails. Did she 337 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:40.119 know and willingly hide, which all sounds very funny now it sounds very quaint. 338 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.680 Hillary Clinton's classified emails. That was a different time. Whatever. It's 339 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:47.759 like, you're either lying or you're too dumb. What do I want somebody 340 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:49.640 who's that dumb or somebody that's gonna lie to me like that, right, 341 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:56.720 because one or the other. Yeah, her days have got to be numbered. 342 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.839 You could also, as the presidents of the United States, if you 343 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:06.079 weren't sick and in Delaware, call for her resignation. I don't know why 344 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:11.799 that didn't happen nine days ago. All right, there's a lot going on 345 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.960 today. Okay, we're going to turn the temperature down. We are going 346 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.960 to turn the I didn't know the temperature was that high. Was it high? 347 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:23.240 Where you feeling start to feel the ants again? It is warmer in 348 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:27.079 here today, is it because it's the face of the sun outside. Well, 349 00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:32.000 yesterday there there was no air conditioning. There was no air conditioning, 350 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:37.079 and it was it was lovely. It was fine. Yeah, So today 351 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.720 there is air conditioning and it does feel a little cooler. You still look 352 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:47.400 a little clammy. Is it the lysteria lunch I had? Your listeria is 353 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:52.200 showing all right, when we come back, the potential people who could run 354 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:59.759 with Vice President Kamala Harris as they as her vice president, we'll talk about 355 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.759 some of the names. Juliemanchester from the Hill dot Com is going to join 356 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.880 us right after this. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. 357 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.480 You can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine am to one 358 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:17.480 pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.