What is going on? Clips fans, Welcome to a very impromptu, very
quick just YouTube live, Twitter live. Hang. Lawrence Frank just had his
post season presser. That is the only postseason like exit interview type stuff we're
going to get from anyone in the Clippers. There's not going to be exit
interviews. There's nothing like that for this Clippers team. We get Lawrence Frank's
press conference at the end of the season like we did today, and then
nothing else. So if you want more answers to what happened for the Clippers
this year, this is all we're getting. Got the first comment from Forgotten
lol caw. This sucks, man, Yeah, it does suck a little
bit. It was kind of more of the same. I think I titled
this stream more of the same or something like that. It's just been the
same thing over the last four years or so. We're gonna go through some
of the quotes and stuff here. Shout out to all the Beat reporters who
were there covering this. Shout out to Justin russou La, Murray, tomayr
far By, Joey Lynn, all the the Beat reporters were there tonight,
which is great. I guess the big thing to talk about is I guess
the Paul George stuff. There was Paul George news today that he might explore
free agency, which look usually this podcast is hosted by myself and two other
people. I am going to say my thoughts on that. If Paul George
would like to entertain free agency, go for it. But Paul George took
fifteen point eight field goal attempts this year in the playoffs. I would not
like him on the team anymore. I understand that the Clipper you know,
there's not very good options out there, but giving Paul George the Max contract,
which the Clippers are not going to do. If that was on the
table, that would have been signed by now. Yeah, go please leave.
I guess if you want to try free agency, go for it.
Man. Giving Paul George and Max contract is insane. Any team who does
it, good luck, I guess to you. Lawrence Frank talked about this.
He said today that the intent is to retain the core. While acknowledging
that Paul George and James Harden have personal decisions to make on Paul George,
he said, we always want to treat players well, pay fairly. We've
had good conversations over the course of the year. I guess I don't want
to keep this cor together. This core is old and hurt. It's very
hurt. I don't know. I mean, I guess, I guess I
understand the logic of this. Lawrence Frank talked about how you know, like
these three guys are still very good. They can then they can maintain a
high level of play despite their age and despite emerging younger talent is what he
thinks. We've seen it go downhill every season. So I again, this
is a frustrating presser to to look at. I think just because I don't
know what we're supposed to do with any of this information. Uh, none
of it was encouraging. I don't think at all. What's up? Jake
Burns, Jake Burns. I was wearing one of the og Jake Burns shirts
at the thirty five run from so thank you for having me feel a little
fresh for that horrible game. Yes, Jake Burns saying feels like we got
contradicting statements. He wants to go younger, but explains how I have three
elite players. Yeah. He also mentioned Kai Jones needed to get some run,
which I understand that Kai Jones is young and athletic, and we have
old players, but we also have a guy on the team who wasn't all
rookie. We have an all rookie team member on the Clippers and bones Island
who seemingly is cast aside. I know if Adam Osland, one of the
other hosts of the show we're here, he would probably be upset about that.
So I'm putting on my Adam Oslin hat right now. Let's try bones
out a guy who has shown to be good. Thank you, Jake Burns.
It's very fair. The whole press conference was frustrating. I was frustrated.
I was really frustrated, mostly just by the PG stuff this morning.
Yeah, I don't know. I think one of the most frustrating parts of
this pressor for me was going to be where's the quote at Lawrence Frank understands
the Clippers have fallen short once again with one of their best players injured again,
but he says that while it has happened four straight years of finishing without
their best player, Frank says, it doesn't mean it's happening again next season.
Great, let's hope that it works out again. What are we doing
here, Hey, just because it happened in the last four years doesn't mean
it will happen again. Well tell you what the chances are. It feels
like the chances are in the corner of it may be happening again. We're
not getting any younger. Thank you forgotten lol cow shout out Lat Murray.
He's a wonderful work. All year. Teams are getting younger. Every team's
getting younger, and the Clippers are not. The Clippers do have the oldest
player on the Clippers, PJ Tucker, has an eleven and a half million
dollar player option, and the second oldest Clipper, Russell Westbrook, has a
four million dollar player option. I would love it if both of those guys.
I don't know what you could even do to trade them. I would
love it if both of those guys are not on the Clippers next year.
The best way to get younger is to probably Jennison, the thirty nine year
old who is not good for the team. Despite outscoring Paul George in the
second half of Game six. PJ. Tucker should be moved for something.
Again, the two oldest players on the team have expirings. Get him off
the team. I don't like it's bringing Russ back. I think Lawrence Frank
mentioned this. Bringing Russ back was something that Lawrence Frank kind of talked about.
He said, you know, he gave where's the quote? Also,
usually I'm not this unhinged if you're new to the chat. Lawrence Frank on
Russell Westbrook, got to give him a lot of credit fact that he was
willing to come off the bench and make an impact individual defense, not team
defense. There's a reason he's a fan favorite, locker room favorite, a
lot of respect for what he's done, one of the game's great players.
He didn't mention team defense and he didn't mention shooting, which are two things
why Russell Westbrook was borderline unplayable this year. He did play, and he
was very bad. Yes, Rock, I'm not in the mood and I'm
about to yeat this cat out of the chat. The cat is just as
pissed off as we are. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like
I'm taking crazy pills. I feel like we went through the same presser the
last three years. I'm channeling some dime dropper right now. It feels like
I don't want to be this upset, But sometimes I think maybe this year
broke me. I don't know, maybe this was the year to fully radicalize
me. Behind this. Uh, Lawrence talked about Zoo and Terrence. He
mentioned he said that Zoo had a career rear career year, excuse me,
and then he said that Harden had a lot to do with it. No
shit, that's why you bring in James Harden to make guys better. Uh.
They're gonna try and figure out, you know, the contract extensions for
for Zoo and Terrence Man. And I will tell you what. If I
were the Clippers, I would do obviously everything in my power to keep Terrence
Man in the Viza zu Bots on this team. They're the they are available,
they are the youngest assets. They've been grown by this team. Get
whatever contract needs to be done to keep a Vizza zu Bots and Terrence Man,
especially if we're hitching our wagon to this old ass hitch. I don't
think the wagon is old in this scenario. I think the hitch itself is
old. The hitch is is the California Connection, It is Harden, PG
and Kawhi Leonard. The wagon is a little sketchy, but the hitch is
very old. And if we're gonna hitch our wagon to this. Then we
need to make sure that guys like Terrence and Zero were locked up. We're
probably gonna have to overpay him because if I were them, I could also
see them wanting to leave the team because it's been an incredibly frustrating handful of
years. Uh oh, we got Adam Oslin who was able to come on.
At least send this rink link real quick. We'll send it over.
Copy of this. Adam os is gonna be on in a few yes.
Yeah, so I'm frustrated. Would you rather trade the pick for upgrades or
ride the way for three years? We cannot trade the draft pick. We
have to We cannot not have a first round pick for that long. It's
incredibly frustrating. This is partially why they're stuck, right because we can't.
We can't trade that pick. I'm not this rage, isn't it you,
Jeremy Mormon? We just we cannot trade that pick. It would be horrible.
Shout out Oslan. I hope, I hope this goes well. I'm
sure the only thing in the way of this was the playoffs. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, it was just kind of more of the same
he talked about ty Lou. He said he thinks ty had a terrific here.
His hope is that Tie is the coach for the Clippers for a long
time, one of the elite coaches in today's game, great way of connecting
truth Taylor without leaving scars and wounds. TYLERU called him soft and then they
played better. That was nice, So that was good. Uh yeah,
I don't know. He said we needed to get younger. Uh. He
mentioned Kai Jones for but like, I don't know, I don't know.
H On the Clippers having the forty sixth pick, he said, I think
this draft has a healthy middle class. I think there's a lot of good
players. We got to find the right players. The forty six pick is
not the middle class of the NBA draft. There are sixty picks. It's
the lower class. All right, we're joining. Adam Ozon is popping in
the chat. Well you got a TV on. Uh sorry, I was
a little background noise here, A check. I apologize. Did they expect
to jump in so quickly? There you're on it, my friend asking like
a mofo. I've enraged. I'm mostly just frustrated. I don't know.
How are you? How are you doing? It feels like we've seen the
same presser for the last four years, but maybe that's just me. Yeah,
it looks like to me the Clippers approaches. Look, we don't have
a first round pick till twenty thirty, so you could either rebuild without still
getting a first round pick, which doesn't make a lot of sense, or
you could run it back with these guys and hope for better luck, which
it feels like is what they're gonna do. And I'm going to slowly bang
my head into the wall all year next year. But I think there's some
logic that's better than tanking for no picks. Oh they're stuck, So I
like that's what's so difficult as they're stuck. Like it both options kind of
suck, I think, Yeah, I think one is drastically better. Though.
I do think going for it and just hoping for better health and hoping
to get lucky with good fortune is much better than a team winning twenty five
games while also not getting first round picks out of winning twenty five per No,
I agree, crazy, that's insane too, Like it's I agree that
that would suck, but yeah, but like I just don't I feel like
I'm in Memento and I'm gonna have to tattoo things on my set. Like
I just, it's just gonna be the same thing. Terrence and Zoo were
gonna have great leverage for their contracts. Like I just, it just feels
not Yeah, it just doesn't feel good right now. No, it's frustrating.
And he said it like ten times, Lawrence, Frank, you know,
they're feeling the same stuff that we are. They wish there was a
different result. Cohier play as frustrated as the fan base is, I'm sure
they're in disbelief that this season went the exact same way. In fact,
even said he understands the skepticism of this group being able to stay healthy and
the windows still being open for a championship at this point. That's new in
these press conferences. That's admitting a little bit that, yeah, it has
been this rough. And he talked about the failure and they only won two
games, and it takes winning sixteen to win a championship, so they weren't
close to it. I the one thing I was thinking about actually after the
show. We did our most recent show, I think yesterday, But I've
had the flu. So I'm just in this like never out of cycle.
Yeah, the fever dream, fever dream. Yeah, Hey, I wish
Friday was a fever dream. I wish I wish that for everybody. You
know the great movie The Beach where Leonardo DiCaprio like goes out into the jungle
by himself and he's like running around. If you haven't seen The Beach,
watched The Beach. That that's a Danny Boyle. Before slum Dog Millionaire,
he was doing some great stuff too. Uh. That That's where I feel
like I've the whirlwind I've been in recently, just like a madman. Because
the Clipper season ends, I get the fluid. I'm sick like this and
I'm staying home right now and producing a show. But anyways, I do
think the one thing that brings me hope is what if they just hit on
one of these young guys or one of these smaller guys they bring in.
I hope, I hope that you have no evidence. It's not that crazy.
It's not impossible for that to happen. They have bones, And I
heard you talking about that earlier, and that's probably the jumping off point for
me to coming on this show because I put on my Adam hat. I
said, if Adam were here, he would have said why not mention Bones
as someone young who can help this team? He was an all rookie guy.
I don't know if the attitude problems are so detrimental that he's really defeating
himself at this point, because that's what it looked like after the first two
games when he finally got back into the rotation, when James Harden was out
and he had that spectacular game against the Chicago Bulls, then it looked like
he was pouting. I don't understand that PJ Tucker was his VET this year.
It's probably why PJ. Tucker and Bones were hanging out all that time
and PJ Tucker's yelling at the press. Oh maybe because it worked for PJ
Tucker. Considering he got to start in a must win game, Bones thought
it would work for him too. If he pouted, how did his way
into minutes? Because that worked for PJ Tucker, which is unbelievable to me,
talk about saying the wrong example that example. I do think if Kai
or Bones or somebody else they bring in, or Jordan Miller or Musa,
or if any of these guys just end up being and playing way above their
heads. Assuming the rest of the squad can stay relatively healthy, relatively healthy
and age somewhat gracefully, then you have some of that juice. You need
a young player that can just give these older guys, you know, a
less taxing season. That's what they need. They need a real innings eater
like James Harden does it, But I don't know if it's that helpful because
he does wear down, right, Is he gonna play thirty nine minutes a
game all next year? Like his minutes load was incredible this year. If
bones could actually go out there and give them twenty five to thirty minutes,
I forget where Russ ended up at, but more minutes than Russell Westbrook could.
So James Harden's playing only thirty five minutes a night at most, then
you're in much better shape right there. They have to supplement and support the
older players with young guys that can get them through a regular season and have
better health for the postseason. That's what they have to have. Happened.
Russ was at twenty two and a half minutes per game this year. Give
me somebody that can go twenty seven minutes per game. Yeah, productively,
Bones can shoot, Bones has it. He has a ton of juice pop.
He was a fan favorite when he got minutes. Last year, the
guy swung a playoff game and the only reason they lost it was because a
bad call against the Phoenix Suns Game three. I don't know what's gonna take
for that belief to be renewed in Bones Island. He didn't mention Norman the
presser. I also was thinking about this yesterday. That's interesting. Is there
something to that? Are we also just full disclosure? The season ended Friday,
so our brains are still a little adam as the flu. We were
celebrating Will's birthday all weekend, so little unhinged. But is there something to
skim read? Not fully deep dive into Laurence not mentioning Norm because his defense
is very bad, but he was very good off the bench. We've had
six men who don't play good defense before be very successful for this team and
help the Clippers win a lot of games. It's not something new the Clippers
have had in a six may Well. I like Norm Powell a lot,
and he had a great year last year. It should have finished top three
I would put him in over Bobby Portois. I would have given his de
nas Reed six Man of the Year, but I would have had Norm Powell
top three. Sure, but we talked about it coming into last season that
Norm Powell could be trade bait, that Norm Powell could be that one guy
that you potentially move. It's not necessarily for somebody that you know. Maybe
it's someone you're taking more of a shot on or more of a risk with,
but a higher ceiling type of guy, a younger player with higher ceiling
by giving up Norman Powell, who does still have and this is the problem,
two more years left on his deal without a player off. It's not
a bad deal though, right and with the salary cap going up it's nineteen
million this year's twenty million the year after. Oh okay, well the past
nothing. It's not the best, never mind, it's it's manageable though,
considering how he's been really consistent, he's been really good. There are teams
that could see him fitting in and maybe being a missing piece or scoring punch
off the bench. The Powell Rangers lineup was le it was their best all
season. Law but maybe when Lawrence Frank is talking about we need another wing,
which we all kind of knew the season. Yeah, you know,
the holdout was giving up a tomb in that move that was that was the
guy that you give up for James Harden. And for those of you unfamiliar
for the details of the hard and trade, the taking PJ. Tucker was
like, was step one then Phillies ask for this is we had to take
PJ. Tucker on. I don't know else to add to that, but
we had to. And part of the reason I think they want to run
it back is they gave him a first round pick for James Harden, Like,
you're not just gonna let that guy go afterwards, or at least it's
unlikely that I think they let him go, especially because overall he played really
well and gave them their best stretch in franchise history, that twenty six and
five run. But I do think with Norman Powell, and as much as
we talk about extent coming for Visa Zubas and Terrence Man and I hope they're
here forever, other teams definitely cut at those guys too. I don't want
to see them get moved. I'm just saying, if you're talking about pieces
and plays they can make if everything is on the table, because you're trying
to figure out a way to salvage this era, which maybe you've got to
make everybody available at this point. Obviously, I don't think anyone's trading for
Kawhi Leonard on that extension, Paul George, They're not gonna be able to
do a sign and trade if he opted in and then they could trade him.
I just think that's really unrealistic. I don't think that's gonna happen because
I don't think he's gonna play another year just getting that guarantee from whatever his
new team is to get traded to, like James Harden did that he's going
to get the full max afterwards. I don't think that's a possibility, right.
And you think that James Harden, if it's Philly, if this is
with Philly, you think that Paul George's maybe like, say he talks to
you, James Harden, He's like, Hey, I think I'm gonna opt
in and then hope Philly gives me a MAX contract. What do you think
James Harden is gonna say when he hears Paul George say that the Red Cup
gift, Uh, yeah, I just I think Norman Powell is something.
I think just if they could find the right trade for Norman Powell and then
also find the right young guy and maybe those two things are connected, that
can give them more athleticism, which is what Lawrence Frank talked about. But
somebody would just high end potential that can support these older guys and help them
during the regular season and beyond. They need They need somebody like that.
I don't like there's no easy answers for this right now. As you mentioned
earlier, it does look like they're stuck. They're doubling down. They're tripling
down on this era at this point because the alternative is simply worse. You're
not getting first round picks by taking right now, you're not getting anything untill
twenty thirty. So it doesn't pay to lose. It doesn't pay to rebuild
or restart or reset things. You kind of just have to hope for better
luck and better fortune. I don't know how much more hope I have in
me, but you are correct. We just have to hope it works out
anyways. That's all I got check. No, that's fair. I don't
have a whole much more to say. About it either. It was a
frustrating presser. I guess just from again, we've we've been through this before.
I thought his comments about the draft where we're odd. He said,
the forty six pick, there's a good middle ground in this class. I'm
like, there's sixty picks in this draft. The forty six is not the
middle of the draft. What do we do? We're all trying to be
optimistic right now. Yeah, I guess, yeah, I don't know.
I don't really have anything else to say. I should probably get back to
work. My livelihood might be more important than that press or anything. You
want to end this on. This is just a quick little hang thanks to
everyone coming in. And the other thing could be and I've seen people bring
this up. If you do bring guys back, said, they get off
to a hot start, they could become trade pieces down the line, just
because you're signing someone to a new three year or four year contract. That's
the other reason you don't want to lose anyone, because there's still trade assets.
You might have to add something in to sweeten the deal. But yes,
I just losing Paul George for nothing, that would be horrible. That's
I'm sure, very unappealing to the front office because you could still get him
his money, just like we saw with Blake Griffin and move them down the
line. I'm not saying that's what their plan is. I'm saying, realistically,
in the NBA, who knows what happens in the next year or two.
If these guys do resigne this summer, how much longer they're actually here?
And I think that at least needs to be brought up. Yeah,
I'm yeah, I mean I would not be as of May sixth, twelve
thirty seven pm. I have a feeling that ahead of the trade deadline next
year is going to be very active for the Clippers because Georrid's frank is this
is next year is last year without We don't he doesn't have an extension yet,
I don't think right, I don't know. I'm not familiar with the
terms of his deal. I'll have to look into that. We'll see again.
No exit interviews, because that's how this team does things, Adam.
I hope you have a wonderful rest of your afternoon. Hope you feel better.
Thanks everyone who hung out, and here's to maybe just not thinking about
the Clippers for a couple of days. Let's all relax a little bit,
all right. I hope everybodys