1 00:00:12,359 --> 00:00:17,079 What is going on? Clips fans, Welcome to a very impromptu, very 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:23,839 quick just YouTube live, Twitter live. Hang. Lawrence Frank just had his 3 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:32,079 post season presser. That is the only postseason like exit interview type stuff we're 4 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:36,479 going to get from anyone in the Clippers. There's not going to be exit 5 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,640 interviews. There's nothing like that for this Clippers team. We get Lawrence Frank's 6 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,560 press conference at the end of the season like we did today, and then 7 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:53,799 nothing else. So if you want more answers to what happened for the Clippers 8 00:00:53,799 --> 00:01:00,520 this year, this is all we're getting. Got the first comment from Forgotten 9 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:03,600 lol caw. This sucks, man, Yeah, it does suck a little 10 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,040 bit. It was kind of more of the same. I think I titled 11 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:14,159 this stream more of the same or something like that. It's just been the 12 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:19,400 same thing over the last four years or so. We're gonna go through some 13 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:23,719 of the quotes and stuff here. Shout out to all the Beat reporters who 14 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:26,000 were there covering this. Shout out to Justin russou La, Murray, tomayr 15 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:33,359 far By, Joey Lynn, all the the Beat reporters were there tonight, 16 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,680 which is great. I guess the big thing to talk about is I guess 17 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:42,359 the Paul George stuff. There was Paul George news today that he might explore 18 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,719 free agency, which look usually this podcast is hosted by myself and two other 19 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:53,359 people. I am going to say my thoughts on that. If Paul George 20 00:01:53,680 --> 00:02:01,200 would like to entertain free agency, go for it. But Paul George took 21 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:07,519 fifteen point eight field goal attempts this year in the playoffs. I would not 22 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,319 like him on the team anymore. I understand that the Clipper you know, 23 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,439 there's not very good options out there, but giving Paul George the Max contract, 24 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:16,639 which the Clippers are not going to do. If that was on the 25 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:23,560 table, that would have been signed by now. Yeah, go please leave. 26 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,919 I guess if you want to try free agency, go for it. 27 00:02:28,039 --> 00:02:32,319 Man. Giving Paul George and Max contract is insane. Any team who does 28 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:38,759 it, good luck, I guess to you. Lawrence Frank talked about this. 29 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:44,800 He said today that the intent is to retain the core. While acknowledging 30 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:50,000 that Paul George and James Harden have personal decisions to make on Paul George, 31 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:53,360 he said, we always want to treat players well, pay fairly. We've 32 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,280 had good conversations over the course of the year. I guess I don't want 33 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:01,039 to keep this cor together. This core is old and hurt. It's very 34 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:07,120 hurt. I don't know. I mean, I guess, I guess I 35 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:15,759 understand the logic of this. Lawrence Frank talked about how you know, like 36 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,520 these three guys are still very good. They can then they can maintain a 37 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:24,560 high level of play despite their age and despite emerging younger talent is what he 38 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:31,960 thinks. We've seen it go downhill every season. So I again, this 39 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:42,360 is a frustrating presser to to look at. I think just because I don't 40 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,240 know what we're supposed to do with any of this information. Uh, none 41 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,120 of it was encouraging. I don't think at all. What's up? Jake 42 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:59,000 Burns, Jake Burns. I was wearing one of the og Jake Burns shirts 43 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,240 at the thirty five run from so thank you for having me feel a little 44 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,639 fresh for that horrible game. Yes, Jake Burns saying feels like we got 45 00:04:06,639 --> 00:04:10,800 contradicting statements. He wants to go younger, but explains how I have three 46 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,400 elite players. Yeah. He also mentioned Kai Jones needed to get some run, 47 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:18,399 which I understand that Kai Jones is young and athletic, and we have 48 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:24,519 old players, but we also have a guy on the team who wasn't all 49 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,959 rookie. We have an all rookie team member on the Clippers and bones Island 50 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,920 who seemingly is cast aside. I know if Adam Osland, one of the 51 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,800 other hosts of the show we're here, he would probably be upset about that. 52 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,839 So I'm putting on my Adam Oslin hat right now. Let's try bones 53 00:04:40,879 --> 00:04:45,959 out a guy who has shown to be good. Thank you, Jake Burns. 54 00:04:46,439 --> 00:04:50,360 It's very fair. The whole press conference was frustrating. I was frustrated. 55 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,360 I was really frustrated, mostly just by the PG stuff this morning. 56 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:03,600 Yeah, I don't know. I think one of the most frustrating parts of 57 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:14,600 this pressor for me was going to be where's the quote at Lawrence Frank understands 58 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:18,079 the Clippers have fallen short once again with one of their best players injured again, 59 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:23,519 but he says that while it has happened four straight years of finishing without 60 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:27,639 their best player, Frank says, it doesn't mean it's happening again next season. 61 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,399 Great, let's hope that it works out again. What are we doing 62 00:05:32,519 --> 00:05:39,279 here, Hey, just because it happened in the last four years doesn't mean 63 00:05:39,319 --> 00:05:42,959 it will happen again. Well tell you what the chances are. It feels 64 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,240 like the chances are in the corner of it may be happening again. We're 65 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:55,399 not getting any younger. Thank you forgotten lol cow shout out Lat Murray. 66 00:05:55,399 --> 00:05:58,600 He's a wonderful work. All year. Teams are getting younger. Every team's 67 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:05,399 getting younger, and the Clippers are not. The Clippers do have the oldest 68 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:10,720 player on the Clippers, PJ Tucker, has an eleven and a half million 69 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:15,360 dollar player option, and the second oldest Clipper, Russell Westbrook, has a 70 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:20,160 four million dollar player option. I would love it if both of those guys. 71 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:24,000 I don't know what you could even do to trade them. I would 72 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:27,519 love it if both of those guys are not on the Clippers next year. 73 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,120 The best way to get younger is to probably Jennison, the thirty nine year 74 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,399 old who is not good for the team. Despite outscoring Paul George in the 75 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:40,800 second half of Game six. PJ. Tucker should be moved for something. 76 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:45,879 Again, the two oldest players on the team have expirings. Get him off 77 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,199 the team. I don't like it's bringing Russ back. I think Lawrence Frank 78 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:56,839 mentioned this. Bringing Russ back was something that Lawrence Frank kind of talked about. 79 00:06:57,319 --> 00:07:03,120 He said, you know, he gave where's the quote? Also, 80 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:09,079 usually I'm not this unhinged if you're new to the chat. Lawrence Frank on 81 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,000 Russell Westbrook, got to give him a lot of credit fact that he was 82 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,360 willing to come off the bench and make an impact individual defense, not team 83 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:18,839 defense. There's a reason he's a fan favorite, locker room favorite, a 84 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:23,160 lot of respect for what he's done, one of the game's great players. 85 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,000 He didn't mention team defense and he didn't mention shooting, which are two things 86 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:30,639 why Russell Westbrook was borderline unplayable this year. He did play, and he 87 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:35,480 was very bad. Yes, Rock, I'm not in the mood and I'm 88 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,279 about to yeat this cat out of the chat. The cat is just as 89 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:44,319 pissed off as we are. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like 90 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,439 I'm taking crazy pills. I feel like we went through the same presser the 91 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:53,240 last three years. I'm channeling some dime dropper right now. It feels like 92 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:57,040 I don't want to be this upset, But sometimes I think maybe this year 93 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:01,120 broke me. I don't know, maybe this was the year to fully radicalize 94 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:09,360 me. Behind this. Uh, Lawrence talked about Zoo and Terrence. He 95 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,160 mentioned he said that Zoo had a career rear career year, excuse me, 96 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,040 and then he said that Harden had a lot to do with it. No 97 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,600 shit, that's why you bring in James Harden to make guys better. Uh. 98 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,319 They're gonna try and figure out, you know, the contract extensions for 99 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:28,319 for Zoo and Terrence Man. And I will tell you what. If I 100 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:35,399 were the Clippers, I would do obviously everything in my power to keep Terrence 101 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,879 Man in the Viza zu Bots on this team. They're the they are available, 102 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,480 they are the youngest assets. They've been grown by this team. Get 103 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,519 whatever contract needs to be done to keep a Vizza zu Bots and Terrence Man, 104 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:54,720 especially if we're hitching our wagon to this old ass hitch. I don't 105 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,200 think the wagon is old in this scenario. I think the hitch itself is 106 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,320 old. The hitch is is the California Connection, It is Harden, PG 107 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:07,159 and Kawhi Leonard. The wagon is a little sketchy, but the hitch is 108 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:13,759 very old. And if we're gonna hitch our wagon to this. Then we 109 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,799 need to make sure that guys like Terrence and Zero were locked up. We're 110 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,440 probably gonna have to overpay him because if I were them, I could also 111 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:26,039 see them wanting to leave the team because it's been an incredibly frustrating handful of 112 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,919 years. Uh oh, we got Adam Oslin who was able to come on. 113 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,919 At least send this rink link real quick. We'll send it over. 114 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:46,799 Copy of this. Adam os is gonna be on in a few yes. 115 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:52,840 Yeah, so I'm frustrated. Would you rather trade the pick for upgrades or 116 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:56,960 ride the way for three years? We cannot trade the draft pick. We 117 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:03,879 have to We cannot not have a first round pick for that long. It's 118 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:07,480 incredibly frustrating. This is partially why they're stuck, right because we can't. 119 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:11,399 We can't trade that pick. I'm not this rage, isn't it you, 120 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Jeremy Mormon? We just we cannot trade that pick. It would be horrible. 121 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:22,519 Shout out Oslan. I hope, I hope this goes well. I'm 122 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:28,519 sure the only thing in the way of this was the playoffs. Yeah, 123 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,519 I don't know. Yeah, it was just kind of more of the same 124 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,279 he talked about ty Lou. He said he thinks ty had a terrific here. 125 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,720 His hope is that Tie is the coach for the Clippers for a long 126 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:41,480 time, one of the elite coaches in today's game, great way of connecting 127 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:46,279 truth Taylor without leaving scars and wounds. TYLERU called him soft and then they 128 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:52,200 played better. That was nice, So that was good. Uh yeah, 129 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,600 I don't know. He said we needed to get younger. Uh. He 130 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,039 mentioned Kai Jones for but like, I don't know, I don't know. 131 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:03,200 H On the Clippers having the forty sixth pick, he said, I think 132 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,039 this draft has a healthy middle class. I think there's a lot of good 133 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:09,519 players. We got to find the right players. The forty six pick is 134 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,039 not the middle class of the NBA draft. There are sixty picks. It's 135 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:16,960 the lower class. All right, we're joining. Adam Ozon is popping in 136 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:22,360 the chat. Well you got a TV on. Uh sorry, I was 137 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:28,200 a little background noise here, A check. I apologize. Did they expect 138 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,759 to jump in so quickly? There you're on it, my friend asking like 139 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:37,639 a mofo. I've enraged. I'm mostly just frustrated. I don't know. 140 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:39,840 How are you? How are you doing? It feels like we've seen the 141 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,120 same presser for the last four years, but maybe that's just me. Yeah, 142 00:11:45,399 --> 00:11:50,080 it looks like to me the Clippers approaches. Look, we don't have 143 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:56,559 a first round pick till twenty thirty, so you could either rebuild without still 144 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:03,039 getting a first round pick, which doesn't make a lot of sense, or 145 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,600 you could run it back with these guys and hope for better luck, which 146 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,600 it feels like is what they're gonna do. And I'm going to slowly bang 147 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:13,519 my head into the wall all year next year. But I think there's some 148 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,799 logic that's better than tanking for no picks. Oh they're stuck, So I 149 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:24,320 like that's what's so difficult as they're stuck. Like it both options kind of 150 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:30,279 suck, I think, Yeah, I think one is drastically better. Though. 151 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,960 I do think going for it and just hoping for better health and hoping 152 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:41,159 to get lucky with good fortune is much better than a team winning twenty five 153 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:45,120 games while also not getting first round picks out of winning twenty five per No, 154 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,120 I agree, crazy, that's insane too, Like it's I agree that 155 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:54,120 that would suck, but yeah, but like I just don't I feel like 156 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:58,440 I'm in Memento and I'm gonna have to tattoo things on my set. Like 157 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,639 I just, it's just gonna be the same thing. Terrence and Zoo were 158 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:07,840 gonna have great leverage for their contracts. Like I just, it just feels 159 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:11,120 not Yeah, it just doesn't feel good right now. No, it's frustrating. 160 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:16,519 And he said it like ten times, Lawrence, Frank, you know, 161 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:20,159 they're feeling the same stuff that we are. They wish there was a 162 00:13:20,159 --> 00:13:26,279 different result. Cohier play as frustrated as the fan base is, I'm sure 163 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,320 they're in disbelief that this season went the exact same way. In fact, 164 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,159 even said he understands the skepticism of this group being able to stay healthy and 165 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,120 the windows still being open for a championship at this point. That's new in 166 00:13:39,159 --> 00:13:43,919 these press conferences. That's admitting a little bit that, yeah, it has 167 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:48,919 been this rough. And he talked about the failure and they only won two 168 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:54,120 games, and it takes winning sixteen to win a championship, so they weren't 169 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,799 close to it. I the one thing I was thinking about actually after the 170 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,799 show. We did our most recent show, I think yesterday, But I've 171 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,080 had the flu. So I'm just in this like never out of cycle. 172 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:11,440 Yeah, the fever dream, fever dream. Yeah, Hey, I wish 173 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:15,799 Friday was a fever dream. I wish I wish that for everybody. You 174 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,200 know the great movie The Beach where Leonardo DiCaprio like goes out into the jungle 175 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,879 by himself and he's like running around. If you haven't seen The Beach, 176 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:30,879 watched The Beach. That that's a Danny Boyle. Before slum Dog Millionaire, 177 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:35,240 he was doing some great stuff too. Uh. That That's where I feel 178 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,120 like I've the whirlwind I've been in recently, just like a madman. Because 179 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:41,759 the Clipper season ends, I get the fluid. I'm sick like this and 180 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:48,000 I'm staying home right now and producing a show. But anyways, I do 181 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:54,519 think the one thing that brings me hope is what if they just hit on 182 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,320 one of these young guys or one of these smaller guys they bring in. 183 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:05,080 I hope, I hope that you have no evidence. It's not that crazy. 184 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,120 It's not impossible for that to happen. They have bones, And I 185 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,120 heard you talking about that earlier, and that's probably the jumping off point for 186 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,000 me to coming on this show because I put on my Adam hat. I 187 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,240 said, if Adam were here, he would have said why not mention Bones 188 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,960 as someone young who can help this team? He was an all rookie guy. 189 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,240 I don't know if the attitude problems are so detrimental that he's really defeating 190 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,279 himself at this point, because that's what it looked like after the first two 191 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,679 games when he finally got back into the rotation, when James Harden was out 192 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,759 and he had that spectacular game against the Chicago Bulls, then it looked like 193 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,600 he was pouting. I don't understand that PJ Tucker was his VET this year. 194 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,000 It's probably why PJ. Tucker and Bones were hanging out all that time 195 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:50,559 and PJ Tucker's yelling at the press. Oh maybe because it worked for PJ 196 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:52,960 Tucker. Considering he got to start in a must win game, Bones thought 197 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,039 it would work for him too. If he pouted, how did his way 198 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,879 into minutes? Because that worked for PJ Tucker, which is unbelievable to me, 199 00:16:02,799 --> 00:16:07,799 talk about saying the wrong example that example. I do think if Kai 200 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:14,240 or Bones or somebody else they bring in, or Jordan Miller or Musa, 201 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,759 or if any of these guys just end up being and playing way above their 202 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:27,879 heads. Assuming the rest of the squad can stay relatively healthy, relatively healthy 203 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:33,600 and age somewhat gracefully, then you have some of that juice. You need 204 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:40,480 a young player that can just give these older guys, you know, a 205 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,000 less taxing season. That's what they need. They need a real innings eater 206 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,559 like James Harden does it, But I don't know if it's that helpful because 207 00:16:49,559 --> 00:16:53,519 he does wear down, right, Is he gonna play thirty nine minutes a 208 00:16:53,559 --> 00:17:00,600 game all next year? Like his minutes load was incredible this year. If 209 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,920 bones could actually go out there and give them twenty five to thirty minutes, 210 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,640 I forget where Russ ended up at, but more minutes than Russell Westbrook could. 211 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:17,559 So James Harden's playing only thirty five minutes a night at most, then 212 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:23,200 you're in much better shape right there. They have to supplement and support the 213 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,440 older players with young guys that can get them through a regular season and have 214 00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:33,119 better health for the postseason. That's what they have to have. Happened. 215 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,000 Russ was at twenty two and a half minutes per game this year. Give 216 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:41,519 me somebody that can go twenty seven minutes per game. Yeah, productively, 217 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,039 Bones can shoot, Bones has it. He has a ton of juice pop. 218 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,759 He was a fan favorite when he got minutes. Last year, the 219 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,119 guy swung a playoff game and the only reason they lost it was because a 220 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:03,079 bad call against the Phoenix Suns Game three. I don't know what's gonna take 221 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,880 for that belief to be renewed in Bones Island. He didn't mention Norman the 222 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,680 presser. I also was thinking about this yesterday. That's interesting. Is there 223 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:18,839 something to that? Are we also just full disclosure? The season ended Friday, 224 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,079 so our brains are still a little adam as the flu. We were 225 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:30,519 celebrating Will's birthday all weekend, so little unhinged. But is there something to 226 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:34,240 skim read? Not fully deep dive into Laurence not mentioning Norm because his defense 227 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:37,279 is very bad, but he was very good off the bench. We've had 228 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:41,880 six men who don't play good defense before be very successful for this team and 229 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,880 help the Clippers win a lot of games. It's not something new the Clippers 230 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,440 have had in a six may Well. I like Norm Powell a lot, 231 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,960 and he had a great year last year. It should have finished top three 232 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:57,440 I would put him in over Bobby Portois. I would have given his de 233 00:18:57,519 --> 00:19:00,359 nas Reed six Man of the Year, but I would have had Norm Powell 234 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:07,079 top three. Sure, but we talked about it coming into last season that 235 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,440 Norm Powell could be trade bait, that Norm Powell could be that one guy 236 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,079 that you potentially move. It's not necessarily for somebody that you know. Maybe 237 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,960 it's someone you're taking more of a shot on or more of a risk with, 238 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:23,119 but a higher ceiling type of guy, a younger player with higher ceiling 239 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,640 by giving up Norman Powell, who does still have and this is the problem, 240 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,119 two more years left on his deal without a player off. It's not 241 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,240 a bad deal though, right and with the salary cap going up it's nineteen 242 00:19:36,279 --> 00:19:40,160 million this year's twenty million the year after. Oh okay, well the past 243 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:45,839 nothing. It's not the best, never mind, it's it's manageable though, 244 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:51,559 considering how he's been really consistent, he's been really good. There are teams 245 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:56,039 that could see him fitting in and maybe being a missing piece or scoring punch 246 00:19:56,079 --> 00:20:00,079 off the bench. The Powell Rangers lineup was le it was their best all 247 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:06,519 season. Law but maybe when Lawrence Frank is talking about we need another wing, 248 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,799 which we all kind of knew the season. Yeah, you know, 249 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,640 the holdout was giving up a tomb in that move that was that was the 250 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,960 guy that you give up for James Harden. And for those of you unfamiliar 251 00:20:19,079 --> 00:20:23,279 for the details of the hard and trade, the taking PJ. Tucker was 252 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:29,599 like, was step one then Phillies ask for this is we had to take 253 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,000 PJ. Tucker on. I don't know else to add to that, but 254 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,960 we had to. And part of the reason I think they want to run 255 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,119 it back is they gave him a first round pick for James Harden, Like, 256 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,480 you're not just gonna let that guy go afterwards, or at least it's 257 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:48,279 unlikely that I think they let him go, especially because overall he played really 258 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:52,039 well and gave them their best stretch in franchise history, that twenty six and 259 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:57,359 five run. But I do think with Norman Powell, and as much as 260 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:03,039 we talk about extent coming for Visa Zubas and Terrence Man and I hope they're 261 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:10,119 here forever, other teams definitely cut at those guys too. I don't want 262 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,680 to see them get moved. I'm just saying, if you're talking about pieces 263 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,720 and plays they can make if everything is on the table, because you're trying 264 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:21,400 to figure out a way to salvage this era, which maybe you've got to 265 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,920 make everybody available at this point. Obviously, I don't think anyone's trading for 266 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,079 Kawhi Leonard on that extension, Paul George, They're not gonna be able to 267 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,440 do a sign and trade if he opted in and then they could trade him. 268 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,039 I just think that's really unrealistic. I don't think that's gonna happen because 269 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:45,799 I don't think he's gonna play another year just getting that guarantee from whatever his 270 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:48,000 new team is to get traded to, like James Harden did that he's going 271 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:52,799 to get the full max afterwards. I don't think that's a possibility, right. 272 00:21:52,839 --> 00:21:56,559 And you think that James Harden, if it's Philly, if this is 273 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:59,839 with Philly, you think that Paul George's maybe like, say he talks to 274 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:00,799 you, James Harden, He's like, Hey, I think I'm gonna opt 275 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:03,160 in and then hope Philly gives me a MAX contract. What do you think 276 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:08,640 James Harden is gonna say when he hears Paul George say that the Red Cup 277 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:18,200 gift, Uh, yeah, I just I think Norman Powell is something. 278 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:23,720 I think just if they could find the right trade for Norman Powell and then 279 00:22:23,799 --> 00:22:27,759 also find the right young guy and maybe those two things are connected, that 280 00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:32,920 can give them more athleticism, which is what Lawrence Frank talked about. But 281 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:40,240 somebody would just high end potential that can support these older guys and help them 282 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:45,200 during the regular season and beyond. They need They need somebody like that. 283 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,519 I don't like there's no easy answers for this right now. As you mentioned 284 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,920 earlier, it does look like they're stuck. They're doubling down. They're tripling 285 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,519 down on this era at this point because the alternative is simply worse. You're 286 00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:03,839 not getting first round picks by taking right now, you're not getting anything untill 287 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,000 twenty thirty. So it doesn't pay to lose. It doesn't pay to rebuild 288 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:12,200 or restart or reset things. You kind of just have to hope for better 289 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:18,119 luck and better fortune. I don't know how much more hope I have in 290 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,799 me, but you are correct. We just have to hope it works out 291 00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:27,839 anyways. That's all I got check. No, that's fair. I don't 292 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,039 have a whole much more to say. About it either. It was a 293 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:36,200 frustrating presser. I guess just from again, we've we've been through this before. 294 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,279 I thought his comments about the draft where we're odd. He said, 295 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,119 the forty six pick, there's a good middle ground in this class. I'm 296 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,279 like, there's sixty picks in this draft. The forty six is not the 297 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:55,799 middle of the draft. What do we do? We're all trying to be 298 00:23:55,839 --> 00:24:00,640 optimistic right now. Yeah, I guess, yeah, I don't know. 299 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,119 I don't really have anything else to say. I should probably get back to 300 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,519 work. My livelihood might be more important than that press or anything. You 301 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,839 want to end this on. This is just a quick little hang thanks to 302 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:18,000 everyone coming in. And the other thing could be and I've seen people bring 303 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:21,799 this up. If you do bring guys back, said, they get off 304 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:26,359 to a hot start, they could become trade pieces down the line, just 305 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,839 because you're signing someone to a new three year or four year contract. That's 306 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,640 the other reason you don't want to lose anyone, because there's still trade assets. 307 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:42,519 You might have to add something in to sweeten the deal. But yes, 308 00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:48,680 I just losing Paul George for nothing, that would be horrible. That's 309 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:56,400 I'm sure, very unappealing to the front office because you could still get him 310 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,759 his money, just like we saw with Blake Griffin and move them down the 311 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,359 line. I'm not saying that's what their plan is. I'm saying, realistically, 312 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,160 in the NBA, who knows what happens in the next year or two. 313 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,000 If these guys do resigne this summer, how much longer they're actually here? 314 00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:15,759 And I think that at least needs to be brought up. Yeah, 315 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,480 I'm yeah, I mean I would not be as of May sixth, twelve 316 00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:23,440 thirty seven pm. I have a feeling that ahead of the trade deadline next 317 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:30,759 year is going to be very active for the Clippers because Georrid's frank is this 318 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,559 is next year is last year without We don't he doesn't have an extension yet, 319 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:37,720 I don't think right, I don't know. I'm not familiar with the 320 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:44,000 terms of his deal. I'll have to look into that. We'll see again. 321 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:48,480 No exit interviews, because that's how this team does things, Adam. 322 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,759 I hope you have a wonderful rest of your afternoon. Hope you feel better. 323 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,440 Thanks everyone who hung out, and here's to maybe just not thinking about 324 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,920 the Clippers for a couple of days. Let's all relax a little bit, 325 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,680 all right. I hope everybodys