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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm still arranging
my mic. Well, Ryan turns it

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on, so you heard a little
bit of that. But good afternoon.

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Welcome. I'm jacon Zalez, your
host for the day. Steve is still

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I'm not sure how much longer he'll
be out, but we know he's he's

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kind of day to day, so
we'll we'll let you know when he's when

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he's on his way back. We
have got Ryan here today are Mavericks fans.

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We're gonna get in the to the
MAVs. Noticing he didn't wear the

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shirt. He's got something with a
spider on it, whatever that means,

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if there's a hidden meaning to that. But the NBA NBA Finals are over

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and Ryan's MAVs are gone. It's
just a spider Man shirt. Okay,

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it's a story mancher anyways, But
we do have a couple of great guests.

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We're going to talk some UFA Sports. We're going to have Troy Hutchinson

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in at from Goasycats at three fifteen. The Cats are piling up the football

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team at least is piling up commitments
for the twenty twenty five class, or

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according to a post today, they're
up to seven. We'll talk about some

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of that with Troy. Also,
you know what's going on basketball, why

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so we'll see what he's got on
his mind with Goasy Cats. And then

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PJ Brown, who covers Arizona women's
basketball for the Arizon Daily Star, she'll

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joined us at four fifteen. Adia
Barnes had a press conference last week talking

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about her recruiting class, and so
we'll go into that with PJ and just

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there's a lot of new faces in
women's basketball. Is there going to be

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every year from now on? You
can expect that She's still got a core

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of players that's stuck around. And
so we'll see what PJ gleaned from the

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press conference last week. So we'll
talk some women's basketball in the second hour.

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So Ryan, it's over, man, Now we knew it was over

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a couple of games ago, right, Yeah, we did, right?

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I know that. You know there's
hope against hope right. As you know,

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we talked about it. You know, if they they win, you

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know that you never know whatever.
But they finished them up last night.

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Yeah. It was honestly, I
didn't like really tune into it much.

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It was just kind of on.
It was on the background, right,

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I was just tuning in to see
what would happen, and they just got

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they got killed. Well, you
know, and you're sitting there, You're

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trying to hang on, trying to
hang on, trying to hang on,

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and then Peyton Pritchrick hits a half
court shot at the end of the half.

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You go, what why? Right, what am I doing? Why

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am I watching? It's you know, there's nothing left. Yeah, when

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that happened, I was like,
I'm done. Yeah, I'm done.

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I'm gonna go watch the that's more
interesting. Yeah. Well, so,

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so the the Boston Celtics are the
champs, as they always do. As

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always happens. You know, people
start saying, oh, this is you

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know, a dynasty in the making. Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum and all

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these guys. You know, these
guys win championships from here. They said

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that about the Nuggets last year,
right, And who's gonna beat the Nuggets

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next year, everybody. You know. So look, we were talking about

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it yesterday with with Kevin. The
Celtics are really good. They were the

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best team in the league all year
long, no, hands down, right,

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yeah, definitely, I mean hands
down, no, no, no

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question. By the way the season
was going, it's like they should win

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it, and they did. They're
not a great team, are they?

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I mean, you know, great. I'm talking about it in the sense

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of, you know, some of
the greatest teams of all time. They're

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a really good team that was really
good all year long, won the championship

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as they were supposed to. I'm
not sitting here thinking this team is put

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together for five years to come.
What do you think? They're definitely not

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one of the all time, right, I don't think they had a good

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season, right, you know,
the best team in the league. They

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went all the way. You know, it was it was said that it

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was their champion ship to lose.
You know, I would have been surprised

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if the Mavericks actually had beat them. Sure, when the Mavericks were a

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five seed. I mean, you
know, the Mavericks got to be happy

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they got there, right, definitely, and I mean they they took down

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the Clippers, which they weren't a
hundred percent they didn't have Kawhi Leonard.

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Okay see, I really don't think
was that good. But they took them

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down. They took down the Timberwolves, which I thought was probably the best

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team in the in the in the
West West, which that was a surprise

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that they actually beat them in five
games. And then you know, it

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was like, all right, Celtics
are up next. They're gonna they're gonna

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take it, and yeah, congratulations
to them on winning. Al Horford finally

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got his his championship, well deserved. Great player, Tatum Brown, you

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know, really good. Those guys
are really good. I mean they're really

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good. They're the best in the
you know, the best duo in the

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league, you know, and they
showed it. And again they were supposed

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to win it and they did.
But I don't, you know, I

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don't put those guys up there with
you know, some of the great twosome's,

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you know. Ever, they're really
good. Yeah and that, and

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you know, and they're they're champions, and they won the championship and they

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were easy. You know, again, without a doubt, the best team

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in the league, and you give
them that but you don't hand them next

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season. Although I'm getting you know, I haven't checked to see if odds

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are out of them, guessing they
are probably, but they're probably the favorites

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to win it next year, as
we're again, as were the Nuggets going

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into this season. I mean,
uh, go back back to what you

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were talking about over the next five
years. You know, are they going

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to be you know, can they
be n can they do it again?

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You know? I I think maybe
they win another championship in the next five

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years. Yeah, with this group
of guys that they have, yeap next

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year, I don't I don't know. And they and they can do it

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again. I mean, they're good
enough to do it again, sure,

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but I you know, I don't
know that you're going to just hand it

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over to them. I'm looking at
Draft Kings. They've got them as plus

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two ninety for next year, and
then the next team after that is the

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Nuggets at plus eight hundreds. So
they're kind of saying almost prohibited favorites.

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But you know, there's teams that
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the Timberwolves until they lost to until
they lost to the Mavericks, they were

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proclaiming the Timberwolves as the team to
beat for the next three, four or

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five years, and then they didn't
even get to the finals. So I

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mean that's how it goes, right, right, So we'll see. I

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you know, you got to like
the Celtics, you know, but other

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teams are going to make changes and
and that's that's how it works, right,

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as Steve says, Yeah, Okay, these guys are getting better,

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but all these other teams are getting
better too, So so we'll see.

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The Nuggets. I think, you
know, felt like they underachieved and they're

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so they're going to, you know, put some work into it. They

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were really good last year and they
should have won it last year and they

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did, so we'll see. I'm
like you, I never believed in Oklahoma

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City, you know, Like I
mean, it wasn't until the end of

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the year that it thought, holy
hell, they're the number one seed.

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How do how do the other teams
in the West let that happen? You're

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right? I mean like whenever the
playoffs started, it was like, Okay,

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who's in the playoffs? And it
was like the thunder, Yeah they're

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number one. Yeah, I didn't
realize they were like fifty three and whatever.

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Yeah. I mean, did anybody
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were going to win an NBA championship
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know I didn't. I thought I
thought the Nuggets were better. I thought

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the Timberwolves were better. And I
didn't really have an opinion about whether I

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thought the Mavericks were better. But
even with Luka Danca, you thought they

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could be. Right. I can't
name a guy for the for Oklahoma City.

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No, really, certainly, very
there's not. There's nobody that sticks

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out. It's very young, right, very young team. And maybe they're

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you know, a year better next
year. And okay, and then we

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did talk about them. But again
getting back to the point, I don't

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see how you just hand the twenty
twenty five championship to the to the Celtics

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just because they won it this year. People are gonna put money on this.

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I can say I'm taking him now
at plus two ninety, and I

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don't think that's a good number to
take, you know, to try and

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pick an NBA champion. It happens
in all sports, right, right,

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They Okay, you win the championship, all right, you're the you're the

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top top dog to win it next
year. You know a lot of times

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it doesn't happen. Yeah, you're
not gonna have the same group of guys

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that you had, right winning got
championship, right, You're gonna have a

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whole whole new group. All right. So I've been in your seat a

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number of times, you know,
Dodgers, you feel like they should have

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gotten there. They didn't. Your
you're Mavericks. You know, what do

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you like about him going in the
next year? What do you not like

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about him going in the next year? They got a they got kind of

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a young team as well. I
mean, of course they've got Kyrie,

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who's a veteran lucas. You know, he's not young, but he's but

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he's not super old. He's super
old either. You know, you have

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Derek Lively, who did a really
good job for him this year. Yep.

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I'm hoping that they keep PJ.
Washington. He was a really good

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trade. He would be a good
fit for the team going forward. I

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think they win. I think they
go to I think they go back to

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the conference finals. Yeah, do
they do you like? Do you like

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Kyrie on this team? Do you
like him? I do? Now?

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You do? Now? I do
know? You didn't then no, okay,

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why do you like him? Now? He's he's matured, Okay,

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he used to be finally finally,
Yeah, I mean he's been in the

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league a long time, right,
I mean before he became a Maverick,

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he wasn't. I really didn't think
he was gonna be a good fit,

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right, just because of his attitude? Nobody did. Right then, you

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know, how is he gonna fit
with Luka Doncik? I mean who thought

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he could fit? Probably a lot
of people. Yeah, because really,

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for before that, I thought Porzingis
and done, We're going to be the

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two right back there? Because Porzingi
is a really good player. He did

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good for the Mavericks. He just
had a lot of injuries. Right.

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But yeah, now, I Kyrie
is really inturred being a ma rich And

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I feel like you really, right, I feel like you really. I

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mean, I guess I don't know
if Jason Kidd is the right guy to

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credit for that. You know,
Jason Kidd having been a point guard you

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know in the league, uh,
you know all that. You know,

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did did he do something with Kyrie
to kind of change his whole approach to

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things? Because I agree he clicked. I mean at the end of the

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game yesterday. You know, he
went and congratulated all the Celtics when he

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came out of the game. And
I like that, that's not the Kyrie

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we knew, right, A lot
a lot of players don't do that.

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Yeah, it's good sportsmanship, right, right, because and those are guys

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he played with, you know,
some of them, and so yeah,

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yeah, I mean I thought,
whoa, And this isn't the Kyrie we

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all grew up with. And I
mean, you admire those guys from Afar

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too, right, you know,
you you spend six seven months playing regular

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season basketball, you see these guys, yeah, you know, from Afar.

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It's like, you know, they're
pretty good, and then you finally

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get to play against them, and
it's like he he showed a lot of

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respect for him. Yeah, I
like to see that. Yeah. Well

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again, series is over. I'm
a little bummed it's over, you know,

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but it went five games, so
at least it wasn't a sweep,

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and then you know, over the
weekend we've got an extra game out of

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it. We're in a similar situation
with with the with the NHL play with

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the Stanley Cup, right, you
got you got the the oilers and the

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and the Panthers playing I think tonight, right, that's a game five that's

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in that's in uh uh uh in
Florida and uh and and again a situation

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where if Edmonton wins, now you
start talking about a series again. But

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you know, the Panthers just beat
him up so bad in those in those

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first three games that you don't have
a lot of a lot of confidence that

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they're gonna you know, they're gonna
get it back to Edmonton for another game.

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Game well, but so it was
game four of the of the of

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the NBA, right, you know, I mean it's kind of it's almost

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like you almost feel like, yeah, Florida just kind of sat around and

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they want to win it at home
or something like that, right, and

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look, you're not gonna throw games, but you know, the urgency,

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you know, the urgency was in
was in at the Edmonton side. They're

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the ones who had the urgency,
playing with their hair on fire, the

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the the the Panthers kind of going
all right, you know, okay,

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you win, we go and we'll
go back to our place. We you

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know, we just got to win
one of two at our place and we're

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and we're golden. So that that
series. I think I think it'll wrap

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up like this, like the NBA
did last night. I think this want

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to wrap up tonight and all our
playoffs will be over, and I'll be

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you know, and I'll be bummed
and out. It's just baseball, and

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I'm depressed about baseball right now.
With the injuries the Dodgers got over the

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weekend. I don't know if you
saw, you know, Mookie's got a

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bust at hand. They said six
to eight weeks now, So that's,

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uh, that's a long time to
be without your best player. You have

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a motives out for. We don't
know how long he's on the eye l.

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I don't know what. They're gonna
be a very injury pron right for

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everybody. Right, you got you
got Ronald Acuna out right, Strider's out.

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You know. Shohy O Tani is
the Dodgers' lead off hitter. I

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mean, why he's not batting third, I don't know. I mean he's

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only he was batting second before,
but he led off last night. The

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Dodgers don't have a leadoff hitter to
put in there. You know, Miguel

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Rojas, he's he's batting, you
know, he's batting two sixty or something

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like that. But he's not gonna
get you know, he's gotten hot lately,

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but he's not a lead off hitter. He's an eight or nine hitter.

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You know, Uh do you stick
you know, Key k Hernandez.

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He's not an everyday guy. You
know, I don't know who you put

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in there? So out of default, you know, they put they put

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show Hey up there and then moved
Will Smith up to the three spot and

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and uh oh no to the two
spot. Freddy Freeman is now in the

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three. Then Tiascar Hernandez is four
that you know, that's that's standing out.

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Let me ask you do you think
the Dodgers are going to make a

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move at the trade trade deadline to
try to get another shortstop. I don't

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know who you go get though,
you know, and especially with the you

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know, how much money do they
have? Are they? I mean,

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are they gonna Mookie's coming back?
And maybe he comes back and they say,

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okay, you're going back to the
outfield, you know, something like

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that. But uh, you know, I don't know. I don't know

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what they'll do. I haven't heard
any conversation. I wouldn't be surprised if

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they did. They probably have the
money to do something, but who are

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you gonna go get that that can
actually fill a lead US five. Nobody's

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feeling the spot that Mookie Will Mookie
Betts had. You know, he's the

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best player, he's you know,
the odds on favorite to one the most

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player. That's who you're replacing.
That guy's not out there right at this

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time in the season. So we'll
see, we'll see. All right,

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we're gonna take our break, We're
gona come back. Troy Hutchinson is gonna

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be here. We'll talk to Marizona
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been happening over the last several days. Got a bunch of guys we'll ask.

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We'll get his thoughts like we did
yesterday with Justin Spears about uh,

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what Troy thinks of the new guy, Brent Brennan and just what he what

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he thinks about him. So stick
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Hutcheson from Goazycats dot Com, who
I think is like anybody else covering Arizona

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football and basketball. And then pretty
busy, Arizona's pulling in a lot of

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football commitments. Troy, what the
heck's been going on? And why is

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this all happening so fast? Yeah, you know, this weekend, this

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past weekend was a very busy weekend
for Arizona landing for recruits. But the

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theme of the weekend is the state
of Texas. You know, you get

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Wesley Yarborough, a four star back
out of Texas, and today you get

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Terry Shelton out of Texas as well. This is kind of a you know,

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emphasis for Arizona fame with Sean Robinson
and they've been hammering Texas hard with

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offers and visits and this is their
fruit of the labor for them as of

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right now. And is this a
concerted strategy to do to the move to

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the Big twelve? I mean,
I mean just saying, Okay, we're

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in the Big twelve, we got
to recruit the area. Yeah, you

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know, and that was one of
the questions I asked Brett Brennan when we

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got to do those one on ones
with him. As you move to the

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Big twelve, yes, you still
want to keep the Southern California ties strong

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and still recruit the Polynesian community obviously
in Southern California and Hawaii as well.

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But the reality is, you're not
going to be playing UCLA, You're not

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going to be playing USC cal Stanford, You're not going to be playing so

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many California teams. So you really
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region, your foot in the door
now, or else it's going to be

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hard to moving forward. So this
year is really important for Arizona to get

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their foot in the state of Texas, and right now they have four of

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them in terms of their recruiting class
coming out of the state of Texas.

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Now, I don't know where you
were during that time, but we all

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know that Mike Stoops, who you
know came here from Oklahoma, had had

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the familiarity with the area. He
he recruited Texas hard during that time,

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maybe even kind of forgot about Southern
California a little bit to recruit Texas.

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But now it's been a while.
Are any leftover from that? I mean,

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do people know Arizona in in in
Texas and in that and let's just

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say the southwest over there, or
are they start kind of recreating relationships.

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Do you have any idea about that? Yeah, you know, I think

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it's a little bit of Yes,
they're familiar that Arizona has recruited Texas in

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the past and had had success there. And Arizona has Duyne Akina, who

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you know, has been a d
D coach at Texas before, so there

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familiar with them. But this is
a process of we need to start whole

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new relationships out now that maybe Duanne
Aquina and some other staffs as well.

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But the main takeaway from the state
of Texas and really recruiting in general is

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there's a lot of like and there's
a lot of positives with this coaching staff

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from young kids. But they want
to see Arizona start winning football games with

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this staff. Yes, they were
successful last year of the previous staff,

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but can they do it again?
Can they prove that they can win with

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the same players. If so,
you're going to see recruiting take an uptake

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at Arizona. But there's a lot
of good foundations being laid right now.

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There's just there has to be that
moment of seeing it on the football field.

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Well, when you have guys like
like nor Filafiita, Jacob Monu,

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Tedro McMillan who are getting national attention, you know you can hang your hat

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on those guys. You can go
say, look, we got these guys.

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These guys can play. We want
you to come here and play with

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them. How much does that help
to have guys with some visibility versus guys

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with no visibility. Oh for sure. I think any time you have guys

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that you can hang your hat on, you're going to have success out there

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recruiting and bringing in transfers as well, especially for southern California and the Hawaii

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area with no FAFIDA and team acting
of Polynesian descent and other players on the

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roster, and I'm talking about more
of the headline players, the star players

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on the roster. That helps in
recruiting drastically. But you know, again,

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at the end of the day,
yes you have those guys, and

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yes they're high level players, but
now can those guys exceed They're not maybe

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exceed their expectations, but live up
to the expectations from last year. With

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this new coaching staff, you know
you're gonna have Dino Babers running the offense.

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Yes, Akina has a lot of
the same stuff coming back last year

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as he was a major part of
that defense and Brett Brennan being the head

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guy. You know for Arizona.
You just want to see what they can

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do on the field when you're in
a close game and a close situation you

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a jet and his staff were going
to do and they're very successful at it

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last season. Can this staff be
successful at what their game plan is going

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to do and showing recruits that yes, not only can we recruit that,

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we can develop players and get you
in the right position to win games and

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move on to the next level.
We're talking to Troy Hutchison from goezycats dot

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com. Troy, you know,
Brent Brandon's a new guy, new guy

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in town. He was at San
Jose State, you know, admittedly probably

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recruited mostly around there and in California. I mean, how hard is it

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to establish a presence in a place
like Texas or if you're going into Oklahoma

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or even you know, headed towards
you know, Louisiana some of those you

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know, hotbeds of players that you're
going to need to recruit, you know,

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in the Big twelve. How long
does it take a coach like that

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to you know, establish himself.
You know, I think if you're really

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focusing on it. Even if you
are, it's going to be a little

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bit of a process. But there's
some good signs when you're able to get

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a four start back out of Texas
like Yarborough, very talented, but luckily

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for Bret Brennan, he was kind
of smart about his coaching staff. When

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you have a guy like Duanna Kina
who's coached in the state of Texas.

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You have Dino Babers who coached that
Baylor. He knows kind of that area.

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Even though he's more of a Hawaii
and in California recruiter, he knows

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that area very well. You also
have Chip Viney, who played at Oklahoma,

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was a recruiting director at Oklahoma,
and although he was at San Jose

407
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.920
State and recruited in the state of
California, he is familiar with that area

408
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.599
as well. So you have guys
on your coaching staff that know the layout

409
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:40.519
of Texas in that Oklahoma region.
It's just a matter of getting your foot

410
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in the door and just being able
to present those kids with a winning record

411
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.720
and a clear path to success for
the program. Okay, now looking at

412
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:52.400
looking at you know, who might
not be around, you know after this

413
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season, of whether it's a guy
like t mac or even Jacob mon or

414
00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.680
something like that. Is there is
there an a established strategy in terms of

415
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.920
the players that going they're going after
so far or are they just going you

416
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know, spreading it out, doing
a little bit of everything. I think

417
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.759
it's spreading it out and doing a
little bit of everything. Although they picked

418
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:17.200
up two receiving commitments over the last
forty eight hours, I think that's obviously

419
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a sign of you're probably not gonna
have team back next season and you need

420
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to replace that. But as you
look at this roster, yes there are

421
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a lot of young guys, but
it's hard to gauge who's going to be

422
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.279
an NFL guy next year and who's
not. You know, no Fafida,

423
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:34.000
you know, five eight quarterback,
five eleven quarterback. Obviously there's some height

424
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.440
issues for the NFL level, But
if he has the year R's going to

425
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.880
expect him to have and he's potentially
in New York for that Heisland conversation.

426
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:47.079
Then eventually you would have to think
that you know, he's going to be

427
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.359
a second third round draft pick and
he might leave for the next level.

428
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:52.839
It really depends on what type of
year are's going to have. If they're

429
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able to excel, they're gonna have
a lot of roster spots to fill.

430
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But you look at what they did
in the transfer portal. They brought in

431
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a lot of guys that were freshmen, redshirt, freshmen, sophomores that didn't

432
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get a lot of playing time at
their previous program. But we're highly talented

433
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:12.799
recruits and so you look at those
players that they're able to develop them within

434
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.519
the next year or so, Uh, they should be okay, they're developing

435
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:21.079
depth in terms of the transfer portal
that they brought in that has talent.

436
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:25.240
It just needs you know, a
few polishing and a few chip chips away

437
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.000
at the rock. And if you're
able to do that, you have found

438
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:32.200
starters in the transfer portal that were
once three, four or five star recruits.

439
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:36.039
All right, So I asked you, I asked justin this yesterday,

440
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.559
I'll ask you to any buzz around
the injury to Team AC. You know,

441
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.839
what are we talking about? Do
we know what it is? You

442
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.319
know, I know Brendan's saying,
yeah, he's going to be ready,

443
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.319
but how much do we know about
the injury to to Team AC as of

444
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.240
right now? You know, last
time we talked to Brennan, it was

445
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:56.200
he's going to be ready for you
know, training camp, and we'll see

446
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.599
is that going to be you know, he's ready for training up right at

447
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.440
the start of it? Who knows. I think their goal is too similar

448
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:08.680
to what Amazonna have last year with
Jordan Morgan coming off of his ACL injury.

449
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.519
Is you kind of baby him in
training camp? You bring them along

450
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.519
slowly that way at the start of
the season he's fully ready to go and

451
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.319
you're not worth sitting in the injury
that he's trying to recover from. Again,

452
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:25.880
that's ankle leg injury. They weren't
really clear on the specifics of that,

453
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.440
but I'm sure they're trying to get
them ready for training camp and definitely

454
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.920
for the start of the season.
Now again, I think it's going to

455
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.480
be a slow, kind of gradual
increase throughout training gramps and by that last

456
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.279
week he will probably be ready to
go. Okay, all right, So

457
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.400
I want to put you on the
spot a little bit with this one because

458
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.920
I asked justin yesterday and I think
I caught him off guard, and you

459
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.359
know, I just want some of
your opinions. You guys in the media,

460
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.480
Well we're all in the media,
but you know, you guys who

461
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.519
are around around Brent Brennan and a
little bit more we're around Jed Fish quite

462
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:03.599
a bit. In what ways are
are Brennan and Jed very different? And

463
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.200
what ways do you think they're alike, Whether it's what they're coaching, how

464
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:12.200
they're going about with their personalities,
the type of people they are, how

465
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:18.680
they're dealing with the media, similarities
and differences between those two guys. Yeah,

466
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.039
you know, let's start off of
the differences. I think Brett Brennan

467
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.880
is a little bit more hands off
in terms of the team as a whole.

468
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.960
He kind of lets his assistants run
practice and he starts getting involved during

469
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:34.200
the seven on seven and eleven on
eleven drills and helps coach the receivers and

470
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:40.559
other offensive position groups on the side, but more like individual work after their

471
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:45.960
drill. Also, in terms of
with the media, I think Brett Brennan

472
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.799
is a lot more I don't want
to say personal, but you can tell

473
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:53.279
it's very real. I think there
was a sense of almost a huge car

474
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:59.640
salesman like attitude with Jetfish, where
you know you're saying all the right things.

475
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.559
You know you're this is great,
that's great, everything's wonderful, but

476
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:10.960
I don't think you always necessarily believed
it. In terms of the how do

477
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.119
I put it, the welcomingness media, especially the local media, where Brett

478
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.839
Brennan there definitely is a sense of
welcomeness to the local media and it's a

479
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.599
little bit more open than it was
with coach Jet Fish, So I think

480
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:29.400
there's a sense of realness to that
and a family atmosphere. And then lastly,

481
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.640
in terms of differences, I just
think he's very laid back. Both

482
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.480
of them kind of have a laid
back personality, but you know, Brennan's

483
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.240
kind of this is football and let's
make it fun and this is why you

484
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:42.559
play football. Is yes, you're
trying to get to the next level,

485
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.079
but you're having fun in the process
as well, and it's about that and

486
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.720
team building as well. Do you
see or during the spring, I guess

487
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.400
do you see a lot of you
know, player interaction with him. What

488
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.400
did it look like when he's talking
to guys or maybe he's talking to the

489
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.480
team as a group or individual or
whatever, Well, what does it look

490
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:06.400
like in terms of how the players
are reacting to him? You know,

491
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.160
I don't think I've ever see Brennan
snap on a player, And you know

492
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.119
that happens to out coaching. You're
gonna have argument with players and all that

493
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.720
you're trying to make them better.
So I'm not saying the previous staff did

494
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.599
that, but it seems more of
kind of like that, you know,

495
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:23.480
let me put my arm around you
and explain it real quick, even if

496
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:29.880
it's positive, negative, whatever.
It be more of a kind of a

497
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:36.119
father figure like demeanor to him to
me instead up more business with Jed and

498
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.440
his staff. But it seems just
like a very not not happy, go

499
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:46.039
lucky, but very easy going sense
to it. It's kind of calmness to

500
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.839
it, like we know what we
are, let's just try to get better

501
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.480
and enjoy the now, right.
You know. One of the things that

502
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:54.759
I think we all recall was,
you know, Jed's interaction with his quarterbacks,

503
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.759
right, he always had his arm
around around Jade and De Laura.

504
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.759
Same thing when although I think he
missed Jaden in the second half of the

505
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.480
season, you no, Fafita kind
of got forced on him and he had

506
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.519
to, you know, show that
relationship as well. You see a lot

507
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.880
of the same stuff with with Brennan
and his and his quarterbacks. Yeah,

508
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.079
you know, I think Brennan with
his quarterbacks. More of the role that

509
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:23.480
you've seen that from is Dino Babers
and the quarterback analysts as well. Dino

510
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:28.240
being a quarterback guy. You know, he's kind of filled that role that

511
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.039
Jed had with the quarterbacks. So
he's been the guy mostly working with the

512
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:36.519
quarterbacks and you're seeing that, but
more from a I would say military mindset,

513
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.599
you know, do you know having
the military role behind him as well.

514
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.720
I don't think it's as much you
know, let me put my arm

515
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.400
around you, kumbaya, but it's
very you know, I'm proud of you.

516
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.599
I need to see improvement here in
this. I don't want to say

517
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.160
it's strict, but it's a lot
more straightforward of what you've seen from the

518
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.839
past, and I just think it's
a different way to look at it.

519
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:59.480
And Dino's have success in the past, and it's a little bit more of

520
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.440
a military vibe to it. Yeah, just a very straight forward this is

521
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:06.279
what we need to see. Got
it? Got it all right, Troy,

522
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.119
Well, I appreciate the time again
as always, a lot of good

523
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:13.760
stuff there, you know, start, you know, getting studied up on

524
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:15.840
the Big twelve. We're headed over
there. Man, games are really not

525
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.280
that far away. You got Pack
twelve, got Big twelve. Media Day

526
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.000
coming up. Got a lot of
boning up to do on those teams over

527
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:27.880
there. Yeah, you know one
Las Vegas Strip, big told media Day

528
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:31.320
and I back called media Day the
other day too. But it's gonna be

529
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.440
very interesting and seeing a lot of
Texas teams and Oklahoma and Iowa states.

530
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.639
So a lot of fun coming in
the lay of the Arizona fans. Maybe

531
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.400
not in the trip, but just
a different opponent and seeing what that was

532
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.800
like. Okay, Troy, thanks
a bunch, have a great day,

533
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.159
and we appreciate the time. Have
a good one, all right. That

534
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.199
was Troy Hutchison from Goizycats dot com. You can follow him him there.

535
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:58.639
He's he works with Matt Moreno,
who is sort of the West Coast recruiting

536
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:02.840
guru for rivals and cats, so
blown up on the stuff. Troy does

537
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.199
a lot of great work, always
in the middle of things. If if

538
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:13.079
the media is hanging out at football, Troy's there, so a good guy

539
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.199
to follow. So thanks much to
Troy. We'll be back. We're gonna

540
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.559
take our break. We'll come back
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573
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host. Steve Rivera's out today,
but I've got Ryan here and we Ryan

574
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the Mavericks fan. We've been commiserating
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575
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gets to the finals and doesn't finish. And Ryan's going to that right now

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577
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that he wore the other day.
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578
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till October, right, and then
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579
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it on, where to bed all
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581
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582
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playoffs are over. Hey, you
know what, we're starting to talk about

583
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football, you know, college football. A lot of newnits for us going

584
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.840
to the Big twelve. You know, Steve and I are trying to work

585
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.679
some things out to and we want
to talk to some of the media,

586
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:35.320
maybe some of the athletic directors whatnot
from the from the Big twelve kind of

587
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.119
like what's in store for us as
you know, the four schools from the

588
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:43.360
Pac twelve head over there. You
know, we've already talked to a number

589
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.360
of people about you know, the
fans in the Big twelve. Right.

590
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.079
Look, Pac twelve fans were,
for lack of a better word, lane

591
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.559
all right. They don't fill up
their stadiums, They don't fill up their

592
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.599
arenas. You know, there were
some UCLA games last year where they were

593
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.639
twenty fives some people at the Rose
Bowl. It was it looked gross.

594
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.079
You know, you USC plays in
this in the coliseum, you know you

595
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.760
need you need eighty thousand people to
fill that or to make that place look

596
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.840
kind of full. They weren't getting
that unless they were winning. You know,

597
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.559
Washington, which used to get seventy
thousand people in their stadium all the

598
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:21.519
time. You know, they weren't
filling it up anymore. Oregon does.

599
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.199
But that's a small stadium, right, I think it's in the in the

600
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:29.039
fifties. You know, you look
at Stanford game, a Cal game,

601
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.519
there was just nobody there. That's
not going to happen in the Big twelve

602
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.599
Winter or Loo. Whether they're winning
programs are losing programs, people go to

603
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.760
their games. And that's what uh, that's what these four teams from the

604
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:44.199
Pac twelve have to realize when they
go there every game on the road,

605
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.119
there's gonna be a crowd there waiting
for him. And you know what a

606
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.920
as Brent Brandan said on our show, Arizona, you know Arizona fans and

607
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.880
need to realize that and create the
same thing here. Buy tickets and go

608
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.960
to the games and create an atmosphere
because Arizona's going to be facing that everywhere

609
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:01.159
they go on the road. They
go. You know, they've got this

610
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:05.800
game with Kansas State that was already
on the schedule. It's a non conference

611
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:07.559
game, it's the third game of
the season. But it's a game with

612
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.280
one of the teams that's favored to
win the when the Big Twelve, we're

613
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:15.119
going to learn a lot about where
Arizona sits in the league by what happens

614
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.119
in that game. If Arizona goes
there and gets blown out, heads up,

615
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:21.480
be careful. On the other hand, if they can go over there

616
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.320
and win the game, now watch
out. You know, the Big twelve

617
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.840
needs to watch out for Arizona.
If Ari Zone just goes up and puts

618
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.320
up a good show, all right, then we see what happens once the

619
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:34.119
conference season starts. But you know, it's a long way of saying,

620
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.280
you know, it's time to start
talking about that. You know, I'm

621
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:42.880
excited about it. I'm excited about
you know. One, I'm excited about

622
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.840
having games in the daytime, right, not having a step to midnight to

623
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.719
catch to catch it in the game. Although the first couple of games that

624
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.800
Arizona's in their their night games.
The NAU game in the in the New

625
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.800
Mexico game are both night games.
But you know, I think that,

626
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.360
you know, we need to get
ready and need to be prepared. So

627
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.079
you know, we're we're going to
try and talk to as many of the

628
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:06.079
people as we can who can kind
of give us a sense of what we

629
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.480
can expect over there. We got
we gotta start used to say Big twelve,

630
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.679
right, how many times have I
slipped up on that already? And

631
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.320
that's going to happen for a while, and especially for somebody who I confuse

632
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.280
my kids' names to this day.
And you know, my young my oldest

633
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.280
is in his thirties, so you
know, I've known them for a while

634
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.440
and I still mess up their names. But but you're right, you know,

635
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.320
we got used to the fact that
the PAC twelve is gone. But

636
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.079
uh, you know again, as
I said, looking forward to it,

637
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.960
the schedule is is interesting just because
they're all new teams. I mean,

638
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.079
yes, we played Texas Tech in
the past, and even dating all the

639
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.239
way back to when Arizona was in
the whack, they would play Texas Tech

640
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.519
and it was a big game.
So we've got some familiarity with Texas Tech,

641
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.320
a little bit with Houston. Arizona
played them a couple of times and

642
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.920
a few years ago, but really
nobody else, nobody else over there Oklahoma

643
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.679
now, but Oklahoma's gone, so
you know, there's just not a lot

644
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:05.119
of games with those teams, particularly
you know, Baylor. I don't think

645
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.599
Arizona's even never played Baylor. Iowa
State, that's another team, and you

646
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.239
know people are picking Iowa State to
have a good season, and that could

647
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.159
be a tough game for Arizona when
they play. They got to go to

648
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.400
Central Florida. My nephew who lives
in Ortlanta, say you guys coming to

649
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:22.800
the Central Florida game. I said
no, not only no, but hell

650
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.360
no, you know, I you
know, I don't know, maybe some

651
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.000
someday, but you know, I
don't see any field in any any road

652
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:35.800
trips in in the in the twenty
twenty four season for me, not with

653
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.960
the flights now with cost of flights, you know, and so but look,

654
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.599
it's gonna be interesting. They're gonna
be on ESPN, which is cool.

655
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.159
You know, that's gonna be fun. Get your ESPN Plus subscription because

656
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:50.280
you might have to, you know, catch a couple of games there.

657
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:52.719
But you know, Arizona, I
think one of the things that's gonna happen

658
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.360
in Arizona's gonna get a lot more
attention. You know, They're not gonna

659
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:59.000
be out playing at eight thirty at
night and playing at you know, ten

660
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.679
thirty at night. Uh, you
know East Coast time, because you know,

661
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:06.519
they're they're not gonna want the existing
Big twelve teams to have to play

662
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.519
that late all the time. We
haven't gotten the times of many of the

663
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:15.360
games. I think the Kansas State
game is a is A it's a Friday

664
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:16.639
night game, so that's probably.
I think it's a five o'clock game,

665
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:21.840
five o'clock the senter time. Yeah, five o'clock on Fox on a Friday

666
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.679
night. There you go that game. If it's a if it's a you

667
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.920
know Arizona Plane, another West Coast
team, that game is at eight o'clock

668
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:31.760
or seven thirty. Right, So
there, there you go. You're already

669
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:37.960
seeing that. I heard an interesting
stat yesterday and and it was it was

670
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.159
it was brought up in a podcast
that they listened to, and it said

671
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:51.199
that the last ten national champions have
had at least three of these four things.

672
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.280
Uh, coming in going into a
new year, they had their head

673
00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:00.440
coach back, their defensive coordinator back, their offensive coordinator back, and they're

674
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:07.599
starting quarterback back. All for for
those three of those four things, there's

675
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:16.239
only two teams that have all four
of those, Georgia and Texas like they

676
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:20.960
need it. My first thought was, okay, I'm putting money on those

677
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.000
two teams to win the national championship. But the interesting thing was that like

678
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.679
Ohio State only has two right,
they don't have They don't have a starting

679
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:34.480
quarterback coming back, I think,
and I think either the offensive or defensive

680
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.119
coordinator left, so they've got their
head coach and one of their coordinators.

681
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.039
Michigan doesn't have its head coach coming
back, doesn't have its starting quarterback coming

682
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.119
back. Their defensive coordinator is now
the head coach, so they they're gonna

683
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:50.719
have a new defensive coordinator as well. Penn State I think only has two

684
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:53.159
of them coming back. Oklahoma I
think only has two of them coming back.

685
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:57.599
US see all these teams that you
tell that people are talking about,

686
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.960
only have you know, only have
a a couple of them. I think

687
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:06.800
I think Oregon has three. They've
got their their coaches back, their their

688
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.360
their head coach, and they're in
both their coordinators. But they've got a

689
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.639
new quarterback because bon Nix has gone
Okay, even though they've got Dylan Gabriel

690
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.280
who's been a starter at Oklahoma it's
still a new quarterback in their system.

691
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.840
So I you know, I thought
it was an interesting stat that. First

692
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.760
of all, who's got the time
to dig up a stat like that,

693
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:29.599
but they did. But you know, of course two teams that don't need

694
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.159
that kind of help have that kind
of help, with Georgia and Texas.

695
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:37.400
I think it's interesting. Yeah,
I mean going back to Arizona to be

696
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.679
you know, new into this Big
twelve, they have a chance to to

697
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:45.280
do something kind of like I guess
an example for me would be like an

698
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.880
expansion team coming into any right,
you know, they have a chance to

699
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:53.360
go over there and say, just
show why we belong in the playoffs,

700
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:58.280
like we deserve to be the top
dog. Yeah, in this conference,

701
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.159
And they have a good opportunity the
very as you've said before, it's a

702
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:06.719
wide open a conference, right,
it really is, you know. And

703
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:07.800
Brent Brandon made a really good point
because I asked him, I said,

704
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.800
hey, you know, are you
at a disadvantage because you don't know all

705
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:14.840
these teams? Right? I mean, first of all, you were at

706
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.320
San Jose State, so you weren't
you know, And but Arizona hasn't played

707
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:21.239
and you know, there's not a
lot of film with you know, Arizona,

708
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:22.159
you know, against these guys.
You know, you don't know who

709
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.920
these guys are. It's a whole
new conferences, he said. He said,

710
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:28.519
well, yes, but there's a
flip side to that. They don't

711
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.480
know us, right, Not only
that, I mean, all they know

712
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.440
is what jet Fish did here.
Now they can look at San Jose State

713
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.840
film, but San Jose State didn't
have t Mac, they have no Fafita,

714
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:43.440
you know, didn't have Jacob mon
who didn't have Dakario Davis. So

715
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.400
he said, we're new to them
too, So it's kind of a flip

716
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.440
side to that sort of a trade
off. And that's why he's that's why

717
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.119
he's a football coach and I'm not. He's way smarter than me when when

718
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:53.039
it comes back, because my first
thought was, well, you don't know

719
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:54.800
any of those teams. You know, how are you going to do that?

720
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:59.480
But you know, just look,
they've got people in place to you

721
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.159
know, do this, go out
and do the breakdown and figure it out.

722
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:06.519
But you know, nobody's got film
on Arizona, right. They have

723
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.320
film on Jed Fish's Arizona, which
if you're gonna play Washington that's good film

724
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.559
to watch. But you know,
if you're looking for what Brent Brennan does,

725
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:16.639
I don't know that you can even
go to San Jose State film because

726
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.440
they don't They didn't have the players
that Arizona has now, you know,

727
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:23.880
right, and they're just going to
have the first three games of the season,

728
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:30.840
right, kind of go off of
that defense. Right now. They

729
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:32.840
will have the game against Kansas State, you know, to to kind of

730
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.199
be able to tell a bit because
you know, look, they're playing New

731
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:38.880
Mexico in NAU in the first two
games. They're not gonna do anything stupid

732
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:43.679
to lose those games. But they're
not going to show a lot, right,

733
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.760
I mean, they're just not going
to show a lot. Then they

734
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.320
got Kansas State, then they go
into the league in the in the conference

735
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.320
play, so that that'll be a
really interesting thing to see how how how

736
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:59.760
Brent Brannan plays that I loved what
I loved what what uh Troy had to

737
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.280
say about how he sees how Brent
Brannan differs in terms of the way he's

738
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:08.199
coaching, because we did feel like
Jed Fish had his hands on everything right,

739
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:12.559
especially the offense. He called the
plays, you know, he ran,

740
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.039
you know, he you know,
he was the quarterbacks coach. Even

741
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.320
though there was a quarterbacks coach,
it was his you know, it was

742
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:23.400
his offense. You know, Brent
Brannan's got a guy who's pretty capable of

743
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:30.719
running an offense in in in what
can't you think of his name, Dino

744
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.920
Babers in Dino Babers. And then
again, you know a coordinator like like

745
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.760
Duayn a Keina on defense that he
can coach, right, which fits in

746
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:45.159
with the fact that you know,
Brent Brannan is a is a Dick Tomy,

747
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:47.920
is a Dick Tomy guy. And
that's what you saw in Dick Tomy

748
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.519
at a practice. You wondered what
Dick was doing because he was just kind

749
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.840
of walking around checking things out.
But you know, he was paying attention.

750
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.880
It's not like he wasn't paying attention, but he was letting his coaches

751
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.199
coach. And you know, I
you know, to me because look,

752
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:07.800
you know rich Rod, he was
the offensive coordinator. He was calling the

753
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:14.000
place. Same thing with same thing
with with Jed Fish. I don't know

754
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.840
what the hell Kevin Somemlan was doing, probably you know, having hot dogs

755
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.639
and chewing gum. But you know, those two guys ran the offenses,

756
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:27.559
so you kind of wondered how much
attention are they paying to the defense.

757
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:34.440
Rich Rod didn't have very good defenses
until last year. Jed Fish's defenses weren't

758
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.599
any good. You know, you
like to think, okay, you know,

759
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.199
between Akena and Brent Brennan and kind
of being involved on you know,

760
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.199
both sides of it, but letting
a Keena run the defense, letting Adno

761
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:50.000
Babers run the offense, you feel
like the total package might be a little

762
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:53.559
better, a little more balanced to
it. Right that that Brandon's paying attention

763
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:58.519
to both sides of it, but
not so much that he's running either one

764
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.239
of them. That makes it makes
a good coach, Yeah, to me,

765
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.440
it does. To me, it
does. You need to be able

766
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:09.280
to let your coaches right do their
do their job. Like make no mistake,

767
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:15.679
Brennan. Carroll was not the offensive
coordinator at Arizona for the three years

768
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:17.760
he was here under Jed Fish.
He was not. He was an offensive

769
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:21.679
line coach. That's what he was
doing, and and and and that,

770
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.599
and that's fine. I mean,
I'm not saying one's right or one's wrong.

771
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:27.760
I just I just find it interesting
that that's going to be one of

772
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.800
the big differences, Uh, one
of the big differences. When you see

773
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:36.159
Arizona on the sideline during the game, Dino Babers calling the place. Dino

774
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.239
Baby is gonna be talking to the
quarterback. I'm sure Brent Brandon will be

775
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:43.719
there, but Dino Babers is doing
that stuff. And and I you know,

776
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:45.400
for those of us who are here
in the you know, in the

777
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:50.360
in the nineties, we're all good
with Dino Babers being that guy because he

778
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:53.960
was the offensive coordinator for those teams. I'm excited to see. Yeah,

779
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:59.960
I am, I am, Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

780
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.960
And again the new We'll see how
long the newness lasts, right, kind

781
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:06.880
of like the new car smell,
how long that lasts. With this,

782
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.719
you know, they need to have
success early because that's how fans are.

783
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:15.320
Fans like me who have been around
and seeing these ten win seasons be followed

784
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.960
up by crappy seasons the year after
that. You know, they need to

785
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.840
They need to get off to a
good start. They need to be in

786
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.239
good shape. Yes, look,
they're gonna lose some games, and we've

787
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.920
got to be prepared for that going
on the road is going to be really

788
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.639
hard. But I think that you
know, they've got a good team,

789
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:37.320
and I think that they'll have a
chance. The question is, you know,

790
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:38.559
how good are the other guys and
what's it going to be like,

791
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:40.960
you know, going on the road. What's it being like gonna be like

792
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.559
going all the way to Florida to
play a game, to play a conference

793
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:46.840
game, Right, those kinds of
things, those are gonna be tough.

794
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.639
All right, let's take our break
word to come back. I hope you

795
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:54.079
load it up with breaking news.
I think you are right. We got

796
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:58.159
a few things, and then we're
gonna get with PJ. Brown Talks and

797
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.519
Arizona women's basketball idea. Barnes at
a press conference last week talking about the

798
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:05.519
makeup of her team as they hit
into the summer. We'll pick her brain

799
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.920
on what fans can start to expect
from Arizona women's basketball in the next season.

800
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:13.480
So stick around for all that breaking
news coming right up.