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You are listening to Video Games to
the Max. Hello, and welcome to

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a special edition of Video Games to
the Max. We are talking all things

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final Fantasy sixteen. We're doing a
spoiler cast here that the description didn't gets

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you already, and thankfully I am
not hearing myself to do this. Of

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course, we have the host of
the Chapter Select pod here on the network

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and Fantasy aficionado himself, mister Randysville. Right were you supposed to play Fantasy

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sixteen before we did this part?
Hope? Yeah, I'll be right back.

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Yeah, I guess go watch it, Fitz, so you can come

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back to this like lit hours.
Yeah hours, We'll see you. And

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of course we also have the host
of the duo since podcasts and part of

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GNM, Andrew Roschol. How are
you man, how's it going? I'm

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excited so of course appreciate, uh, glad that you are able to be

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on And of course the you did
the review for Outer Haven, it's just

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a Scott, how are you good? Great? I'm actually really happy to

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talk about it as spoiler wise,
because I always feel like, all like,

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when you talk about it publicly,
you can't go into spoilers, so

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it's just like very vague, like
it's not bad, batter, it's really

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good here, and it's just like
I can't explain why. Yeah, I

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hate that too. You get to
the point where you're like, okay,

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as whether you whether you reviewed it
or whether you just kind of finished it

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as just as playing it, and
you're kind of like, okay, cool,

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but now I can't talk to anybody
about this. It's like it's it's

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it's cool to be able to have
like a where we we go deep dive

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into the plot and all this stuff, and that's what we're gonna try to

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do here. So this is your
We're not gonna do it like right away,

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but just go ahead and tell you
spoiler warning. I'm not gonna do

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this again. So if somebody says
a spoiler in the middle of talking about

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something else, don't get upset.
I just warned you. If you have

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not played the game, or you
have not finished the game, you might

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want to go do that and then
you can come back and watch this or

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listen to it later on audio or
whatever you want to do. So one

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time, one last time, spoiler
warning for everything that is in Final Fantasy

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sixteen, and because this game is
so story focused, and I think we

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can all agree that the story is
probably the biggest reason to play this game.

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You definitely want to make sure that
you've gotten as far as you want

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to get in this game where you
start listening to people talk about further parts

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of it. So I'm gonna go
to you, Randy. You know you

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and I have been talking offline about
this since the game came out, But

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like, what is your feeling on
the game, Like, if you had

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to give it a rating out of
ten, what is that for you?

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And what does it compare it to
like the other five fantasies. Man,

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this game really is hard to rate
because if I rated it in the first

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half of this game, I absolutely
love my experience. The second half of

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the game, I enjoyed it,
but not as much as the first half.

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It really felt like two different games. It felt like these over the

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top battles in the first half and
then really diving into your side characters.

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And some of the side characters are
great, but there's so much of it

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that it just felt like all of
the momentum of the story really halts.

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I also really felt like I love
the intro to Ultima and I wanted to

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see where he went, and then
it went in a direction I really didn't

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want it to, and it just
became kind of generic. So I give

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it an eight out of ten.
I still absolutely loved this game. I

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would probably put it in my top
third maybe if all fantasies, if I'd

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had to go through and rank all
of them, would take a while to

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remember that I thought of the rest
of these things. But I love the

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combat. I know it was a
lot. It was a departure of most

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Final Fantasy games, but I thought
they nailed it. I do think they

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could have went a little bit farther
with it and just completely gotten rid of

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the RBG elements because they became just
nonsense. Yeah, and I didn't care.

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I don't think I loved at the
menu longer than thirty seconds at a

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time. I just went, this
one was better, Okay, I have

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a new one, move on it. Yeah, And so they I think

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they were trying to hold on to
some RPG stuff that didn't need to.

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But overall, I absolutely love my
experience, even if it kind of fell

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off a little bit. Yeah,
I think we can all agree with that

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RBG stuff that maybe if they would
have just went into the direction of this

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is an action game and that's what
this is. We wouldn't have that issue

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where it's like, Okay, we're
trying to put some RPG elements in,

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but where are the rest of them
that probably should be in here too?

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Andrew like, what did you think
about the game? What would you rate

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it? Where did you put it
on your your echelon of file fantasies.

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Yeah, I'm pretty similar to right
there where Randy is. We're definitely upper

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third. Definitely, I think it's
my it's my top five. But yeah,

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there was not that much thinking when
it comes to like equipment like um

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for example, like I would see
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I'm like, like magic fairly does
anything at all, Like it's almost pointless

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to use, Like even the elemental
types don't really matter. You can use

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fire on fire and it doesn't really
change anything. So like I wish there

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was a little more thought, Like
I wish I would have felt the need

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to like, oh, like I'm
finding this kind of nymy, let me

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switch to this icon for like this
elemental like you know, typing or whatever,

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and like it really does not matter
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like, I don't even know why
even different elements, but I guess it

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just you know, to help break
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on the wheel and stuff and all
that. But yeah, I mean I

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love the story. I think the
story is really great. I kind of

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see where Randy's coming from. Where
the first half of the game is very

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much like games of Game of Thrones
where it's very political national these nations,

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these armies, and like the second
half of the game it just becomes like

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a very like a you're the chosen
one. Yeah right, we're Final Fantasy.

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You have to fight God pretty much, right, Yeah, yeah,

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like you can't. We can't avoid
that trope, right, And it's pretty

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much that point, right, Like
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the creator right of your world and
stuff, so it gets it doesn't get

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the top stuff. But like I
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again, like like Scott said,
like that's always been Final Fantasy, like

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pretty much every fantasy I can think
of, Like halfway through, he's like

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the big aha moment, So it's
kind of par for the course. But

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I wish I'm forgetting too. The
combat mechanics and stuff, but I wish

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there was a little more need for
switching up the different combos and stuff,

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like the different abilities. I was
kind of just and you can tell,

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like they have like the MMO like
pedigree from like Fasting fourteen because you're just

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waiting for the cool downs on like
all your abilities, just waiting for the

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cool down to like cycle through to
the next thing. And I think the

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beginning until you get your third icon, like I think the beginning of the

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game feels very slow, like combat
wise, you're kind of just tapping the

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same combinations until you get to like
when you finally get the fourth one and

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you can only carry three, that's
when things start to get more interesting in

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terms of like a actual like gameplay, mechanics and stuff. But the story,

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I love. The voice actor is
amazing, the cinematics are amazing,

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The Kaiju boss battles are amazing.
So, like, I'm still more positive

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than I am negative, So it's
definitely a I would probably I'm closer to

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like a eight point five to nine. I know I've said a lot of

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negative things, but like those negative
things still don't aren't enough to hamper all

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the positives in my opinion. Yeah, And I think that's kind of the

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thing that since the beginning of the
cycle and discourse about this game has been

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how much of the negatives can you
tolerate to make your you know, what

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you think about the game as awesome
or whatever, because for some people they

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just they couldn't and it's not this
great game that everybody was happy enough to

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be in. For some it's just
like that stuff didn't matter. All this

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other stuff is so much better,
So you know, I loved it in

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the end or whatever. So Scott, you actually have a review out there

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for people to read on the Outer
Haven, so like you have your thoughts

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collected, I guess in that way. But like what what I guess is

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your like rating for people that haven't
read it, and where do you put

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it on your Echelona final fantasies there? So mine is definitely at the higher

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tier of final fantasies. I do
have my review. I gave it a

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four point five out of five or
like a nine out of ten, And

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my thoughts are not just with the
mechanics but also just the visuals. Final

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Fantasy sixteen is a beautiful game.
All of the like textures they have all

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the character models, the way the
animations work. It is very like Polish

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and a very good production of everything
that Final Fantasy has to offer. I

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really enjoyed the story. I do
admit it definitely turns into Final Fantasy problem

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esques on the second half of the
game, once you get into the ultimate

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stuff, because in the first half, it's basically you're following Sid doing Sid

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stuff, and that starf is great
because Sid is great and Clive and Sid

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are fantastic together. And then the
second half you're no longer with Sid,

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and things start to focus more on
a lot of other characters, and it

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starts being less about the main characters
more about the side characters. And honestly

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that I'm fine with that. A
lot of the great side characters that we

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got were pretty good. Gab was
amazing. We got more moments with the

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jail, We got more moments with
the cast that we generally don't really care

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as much about because it's not said
right, and so I really do appreciate

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that they gave us those moments.
I really do appreciate that they let Clive

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kind of grow and be a better
person, as well as let him kind

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of get out of his shell to
have to become the hero that Venicilia Vasilthia

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needs its needed bath words. So
overall, I love this game. Um.

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I think Final Fantasy sixteen is well
worth its praise. But it does

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have its issues, which most issues
have of mainly being Final Fantasy issues itself.

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I think it was Richard Hogan some
other folks that are like they put

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keenom Heart's nonsense sense of this game. You nonsense is actually it's been Final

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Fantasy nonsense for a while. Man, That's where this game game from.

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So you know, that doesn't really
bother me because I expected that at some

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point it was going to turn into
a Final Fantasy game. I didn't think

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that they were going to be able
to keep up the Game of Thrones stuff

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the entire game. It's just they
had already copied so much of Game of

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Thrones that like, what are you
going to do? Copy the entire movie

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and everything last two seasons? I
mean even they still took stuff from the

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last the last season two Like so
some of that Muhammad fight, it's straight

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out of the last season. I
mean, so like it's just and that

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and that's fine, Like that's actually
what made this game intriguing is that they

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were able to take that as a
concept and you know, transcribe it to

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Final Fantasy and make it its kind
of own dark fantasy thing. And I

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loved it for that, and I
love the story all the way through.

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I kind of get where you're going, Randy, because my issue is that

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if they would have divvied up the
side quests a bit more, the problem

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is when you get to the end
of the game, Yeah, it's just

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like, oh, yo, here's
like fifteen psycquests and then oh wait,

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now you got to fight the icon. Oh there's like thirty psy quests here,

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and oh, do all of these
before you get to the end of

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Origin, because then once you do
it, it won't really mean that much

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because you're really beat the game.
So it's like, yo, here's like

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four or five hours of you just
doing the cyquests. So you know,

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that's that's the issue is like a
lot of the story, which is not

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just the story itself, it's also
in the psy quests, and you have

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to do these cy quests to get
the most out of the story and get

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a lot of the stuff that's told
at the beginning of the game, like

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the bear stuff and the things with
all the other side characters, and I

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can see where Randy's Randy's point is
that it kind of drags everything down to

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a hole where it's like, oh, Okay, I gotta get through this

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and then I can get through that, and it's like, yeah, we

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kind of could have messed this in
a little bit better on that front.

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But everything else about it, like
the combat is it's not perfect. There's

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a lot of things missing. For
me, the elemental stuff not being there

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is so jarring, like trying to
hit a bomb with fire and it does

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nothing, and I'm just like,
yo, he's supposed to be like resisting

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and getting bigger and he's not doing
that. And it's beard if not just

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straight up healing from yeah, exactly. And it's just like I'm hitting an

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ice thing with ice and like it's
just like no big deal, and I'm

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just like this is so weird.
So I agree with you also that like

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we have the elemental, so we
didn't put in elemental you know, weaknesses

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or anything like that, which I
kind of get because then they would have

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had to make it to where you
can switch to any icon at any point,

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and then it kind of makes the
point of having loadouts moved, so

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I don't know. They also could
have made it where you save loadouts,

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so that yeah, having the cycle
back to which I don't know why they

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never did that, because if you
want us to mess around with the icons,

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it'd be a lot easier if you
let us actually save loadouts so I

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could just switch between, like like
I pas thirteen we have like the loaded

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like your Paradi and the twelve had
the Gambit thing that you could save and

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all that. Like it's it's that's
something they could add as DLC also or

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in a patch. But yeah,
I get I'm giving the game of nine

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out of ten. For the most
part, everything about it is great and

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for me, like what is actually
puts it above a lot of the fin

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fins, which, to be fair, some of them it's unfair because they

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were on the Super Nintendo. Yeah, like we're all just talking crap about

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the game, like that's still a
nine though, right as much as because

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we're gonna talk about all the great
things about the game and its crap when

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you get into the hang of it. Yeah, that's true, that's true.

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But go with like going to the
Garuda, going back to e freed,

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going back to Phoenix stuff, and
it's just like this is so much

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fun, Like grab people, do
AoE attacks, push them away, go

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but into them, attack them,
go out, grab them again, and

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do everything all over again. Even
the dodging and pairing is fun too,

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because just like watching him do that. I never got tired of watching him

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do that slide every time I dodged, and then I freaking hit him with

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something else. Like that's great,
especially how satisfied you feel when you're one

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hit from death and you're like dodging
machine here when I kill them, like

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awesome. Yeah, So there's there's
a lot of great things about this game.

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We're not just talking about negatives here, so let's let's get into that.

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Let's talk about like some favorite things
from the game. Like, I

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guess I'm not going to include Clive
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The whole game is about Clive.
Um, We're gonna get into Clive

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in the second when we talk about
the story, because again it's all about

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him. So like, what is
your I guess, if you excluding Clive,

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what is your other favorite character?
Um? Of all the characters that

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I guess, get some kind of
screen time in this game. Shit was

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so good. I mean, it
made his death that much better. I

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mean, because that was one,
Like, that's the best sin out of

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all the Final Fantasies. If we're
ranking this game on all the other Final

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fantasies, I think this is the
best sin. M absolutely, And I

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can even argue there's two sins in
the game. Yes, true, right

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the second sin. I also,
I also loved Gav. I thought it

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was a great character. I'm blanking
on the uncle's name, but myrie,

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thank you great is just fantastic.
That whole scene is great, and I

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think part of the reason why I
felt like the story fell off is because

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all of the side characters and the
enemies that I fell in love with or

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just loved to hate all died and
the last couple just didn't hit. But

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like Dion and his whole family drama, which by the way, Clive's mom

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needed a much worse death than what
she got, and I felt so I

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felt cheated by the whole section.
But that I mean, you talk about

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Game of Thrones, The whole Dion
thing was great. I loved Hugo.

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I thought Hugo went through a crazy
arc and I absolutely loved him. We

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don't get better addictive very much,
but she was a great character too.

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And then you just get left with
the Odin guy, who was very generic

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and boring. Like I said,
when I first got you get introduced Ultimate

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and he's like trying to figure out
the human spirit and stuff. I was

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like, Oh, he's gonna go
into these different things, and then the

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entire second thing is like nope,
we're leading you along this path this whole

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time. It's like, well,
then what were you doing? You try

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to take over client at the beginning, and now he's like, no,

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I can't take over your body until
you get all of the you know,

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the crystals. This was all part
of the play. No, no,

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let's not do this, And that's
what I felt. It's like we got

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rid of Hugo, and we we
got rid of the don stuff and then

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it was literally just crystal crystal,
crystal crystal, and it was like,

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but the crystal moments, what happened
to all this cool stuff? And I

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think that was my favorite. It's
just some of those enemies at the beginning

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and really diving into like their issues
and you know, they what makes a

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good villains as a professional wrestling fan, what makes a good bad guy or

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a good heal and wrestling is you
know, you disagree with the reasoning,

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but the reasoning kind of makes sense
a little bit, and then you hate

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them even more because they kind of
makes sense. And I think at least

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with Benedicta and Hugo and Dion,
their issues made sense. Or makes a

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good bad guy is just someone everyone
can hate, like clives some moment.

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Yeah, if only we had more
moments to actually, you know, beat

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the crap out of her for what
he deserved, rather than it just being

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a cut, giant cut scene.
She took her life. It was so

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sad. I wanted more. I
wanted Joshua to just beat the crap out

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of her, right, especially when
I think because I don't think Joshua Joshua

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was too good, I don't think
he would have actually done it. You

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know, I would have likely somebody, just anyone was trying to yeah,

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exactly one other quick, I mean, trying to avoid the negative, but

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there's one more negative I have to
hit with the story. They built up

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Turgo, and Turgo was a good
boy and fantastic and then all of a

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sudden he became this crazy dog and
they're like, all right, let's figure

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out what was going on. You
figure it out. He never does it

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again, No, he doesn't.
He does it in the thought on the

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side, they just don't make a
big deal about it when he does it.

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I wanted more to I wanted Turgle
to continue to go insane like that

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was another moment when he went super
Dog was one of my favorite moments.

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It was like, all right,
turtles even better than I expected. And

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they had a really good explanation for
it too. And then it's like,

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oh wait, so he doesn't evolve
again, Like that's it, and I

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agree with you, Randy, there
wasn't. It was a certain point where

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like I moved the camera over and
then I noticed that he actually changes,

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but they don't. They don't really
make it. It's just like, oh,

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okay, I guess the battle gets
too big. And then he eventually

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just like okay, I'm gonna be
super dog now or whatever. He's like

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the wolf or something. He's basically
ghosts, but you know, um,

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Andrew is there. I guess we
we talked about most of the big character,

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but like, it's there's another character
you wanted to mention. I mean,

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I just I adored Adon. I
love this character like how he's just

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like like when we were first introduced
to him, it's like when Odin takes

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the field like that little skirmers they
have, and he just kind of just

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leaves his tent, transforms into this
big ass dragon. There's a couple like

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passes and then just comes back.
It's like, Okay, that's enough,

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like like like like it's yeah.
It's kind of funny though, because like

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you get the sense that like all
these nations have like WMDs or something with

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like their icons and like okay,
like well Odin's out there, like I

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gotta show up now. It's like
okay, Oden's retreating, Like I want

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to retreat too. So it's like
it's only kind of like for moral it

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seems like sometimes, but like I
just love the whole like because when you

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enterest when you see him, you're
like, Okay, I don't have to

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fight all these icons and I'm probably
gonna have to take their abilities like forcefully,

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right, And I mean you do
end up fighting him, but it's

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not like he's not like an actual
villain, like he is very much a

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sympathetic like he's like very chivalrous,
like he's only wants his talent to not

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die exactly right exactly, and like
I was like, okay, I kind

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of I kind of dig this guy. But the whole, like like when

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he meets up you see these he
meets up with Joshua, and Joshua was

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kind of explaining him to what's going
on. He's like like all right,

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I'm in, and it's like,
oh, like let's go, like all

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right, we got somebody else on, we got another like icon another dominant

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on our side kind of thing,
and just the whole like his progression of

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like hating you know, obviously going
after his step mom and accidentally killing his

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dad, I was like tragic and
everything, and he just like flips out.

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But I like how he's like the
one guy who like he's just like

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a powerhouse as Bahama, and he's
like he sticks you know, to your

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side, like by your side to
the very end, and then like I

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love that. There's like a very
touchy moment towards the end where he's talking

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to like his attendant, the guy
who's like he secretly has like a relationship

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with, and then Joshua says something
about like um, like oh, like

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he knows he's not going to see
him again or something like he knows he's

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not coming back from this and just
like his whole like, I'll lead us

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there so you guys can save your
strength and then like we'll just have this

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big old giant Kaiju battle things.
He's just a really badass character and I

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liked how he just when we first
introduced to him, and I'm like,

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oh, he's gonna be like another
like Hugo or Benedictine. It's like now

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like he was like a complete like
like not all dominants are like not all

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dominance are vengeful exactly, Yeah,
Scott, any any other ones who want

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to mention there. I really did
like Jill a lot, Mum. I

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do think that a lot of what
Jill strength does is kind of sad that

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they focus it on like one arc
of one of the crystals, and then

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she's pretty much put to the sideline
most of the time after that. But

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I do like the moments we did
get with Jill Um. Poor goal was

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was best dog. Yeah, the
only consistent party member throughout the whole game.

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Yeah, yeah, which is why
he's the only one you can control

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in any regard the other ones kind
of just do what they want, which

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is one reason I can't wait for
this to be on PC when they do

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have mods, because I'm absolutely getting
a party control modest. Yeah, I

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mean yeah. The thing with Jill
is like I kind of get the what

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people were saying about, Oh man, she's kind of not a lot of

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the women characters kind of get thrown
to the side in this game, and

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I kind of understand that. In
a way. Jill, I feel like,

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even though she's not always present,
she is there for Clive, is

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like a person to talk to,
and like you see their relationship grow.

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It's actually one of the I felt
like, at least as a love story.

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It's a sweet love story, as
in, like you see it from

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when they're young too now and they
have that consistent care for each other.

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Even at the end when you see
the ending, the way she reacts is

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just like it makes you feel more
for Clive in that moment, and so

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I felt like by the end that
relationship works. Yeah, maybe it's not

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the most bombastic and the most in
your face like un or whatever, but

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yeah, we don't get the death
sceams like we did in Final Fantasy seven

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or ten. Yeah, um,
and and I think, like you you

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touched on it that Gab was also
like Justab was great like him and thought

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he was gonna die in the first
half and then he shows up and he's

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just like amazing. It's like never
mind. Yeah, I wish like that's

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buddy. I wish he was like
an actual like party member, Like I

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wish you had you have like you
retroduced all these different characters, and it's

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like it would have been cool,
like if you're like, oh, you're

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going to side quiz like choose someone
to go with you or something, be

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basically yeah, like like the one
quest where you can choose someone to go

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with you. Wish I was like
all the side quests, right, Yeah,

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it was understand what the mechanics would
have been. How difficult that would

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have been to do. Where I
understand the main quest, like why you

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can't have circuit, but like,
if you're going to have quests at the

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end of the game where you can
basically make Joshua and Jill permanent party members,

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why can't you do that at other
points of the game. Also,

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like it's just kind of weird that
that you have that but you can't do

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it throughout the game. I get
the point if you didn't really want to

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have a party, but it's like
even if you have them there and you

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let give us the choice of pick
who you want and oh maybe you can

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mess with what he wears or I
don't know about the equipment because that necessarily

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doesn't really matter in this game that
much, but it has ye, yes,

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yeah, you get to see the
sword that Clive chooses, but that's

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a right. Here's here's a pallete
changed from a sword you saw like three

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swords. Yeah. I think it's
even more funny with like the strongest sword

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in the last half of the game
is just the first sword remodeled in a

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different color. Yeah, it's like
the better defender. Oh that's right.

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Yeah yeah, and then the was
it grab Garmer tag or something like that.

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I think it's like the best one, right, Yeah, that's like

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the ultimate weapon from for this game
besides Ultimate the ultimate one in Fantasy Mode.

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Yeah. Yeah, So what was
y'all's favorite icon to use? What

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is your You would say it's like
your your main actually just because Walton got

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rid of it because it was only
range. Well, I think using Bohammad

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for the charge up for like mega
flare, like yeah, yeah, if

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you get a perfect dodge, it
instantly like fills up the meter so that

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you can just do like passive damage. And then the the other one is

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the impulse thing that sends out these
little orbits that kind of just yeah,

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and then of course the giggle flare
and you just charge call yeah. People

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all talk about Game at Thrones.
This this game has even more to do

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with like Dragon Ball Z than at
the very end, you know, like

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when you're at the very at the
very end of the game when you and

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Ultim are going through all the icon
abilities and basically he uses bigga flair use

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mega flare is basically just mashed the
button too, like like push through Brandy.

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What was Your Mine was more a
combination of Shiva and Ramu because I

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thought they really worked well together.
Like Shiva would bring them all in and

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then Rama would just do some kind
of a area attack, and that was

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my favorite with every kind of bob
I would pass like all right, Shiva

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pull everyone in, and then I
just did this big attack and then have

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all of the enemies are at half
damage and then you just kind of go

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to town. So I think it
was basically those two in boham it were

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the three that I stuck with.
Once I got those three, that's all

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I always using, Scott, what
was your alrighty? So my first one

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00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:18.000
that I always began or kept with
was usually the Phoenix, just because I

408
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.720
liked tavy the ability to just teleport
to people whenever I need to closed distance.

409
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.079
The one that would always do the
most damage for me, though,

410
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:29.079
was actually Odin because you could just
spam the crap at his intent sun on.

411
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:33.359
It stops everyone in their tracks for
a set period of time and you

412
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.599
could just keep doing more damage on
them. So I just loved spamming the

413
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.359
crap out of that when I could. That saved me a lot of the

414
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.480
times when I do bigger fights.
And then I did it initially, but

415
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.279
when I went to Final fantasylod I
switched out for the Titan because I noticed

416
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.279
that dodging doesn't always work as well
in the Final Fantasy mode, but blocking

417
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.480
does fantastic, and being able to
parry also is very nice when you like

418
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.440
you do everything just at the right
time and you just she used like the

419
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.880
raging fists, ability to parry like
an attack at the right time and then

420
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.480
you just hurt. You just basically
get rid of their stagger bar and they're

421
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:11.279
staggered for a bit. So that
that's my main three that I was working

422
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.440
with. Yeah, by the end, I was just using if. I

423
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.440
was using if it, uh,
Garuda and Bahammad, like I would open.

424
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.839
I always have the exact same routine
for every group of enemies, where

425
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:22.519
it was like, Okay, there's
a lot of enemies near by, I'll

426
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.759
do like a little spinning like flame
thing that kind of sucks them in a

427
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.759
little bit. And then if it's
just like one enemy, I'll just do

428
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.279
like the wing smack thing where like
just a smash. It's usually it's like

429
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.920
a one hit koll like on a
regular enemy or whatever, like the second

430
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.880
part of the attack kills the enemy. But uh, and then I would

431
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.119
just like if it's like a big
enemy or whatever, I would just search

432
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.359
to garut us, I can do
the uh, the little the quick talent

433
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.000
thing, and then yeah, if
you get the sagar bar halfway down,

434
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.880
you do the thing where you pull
them down. It's like that whole thing

435
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.160
scorpion. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. It was like a

436
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.680
half staggered kind of thing. And
by that point, I usually have like

437
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:03.720
the you know L three R three
ready to the limit break something prime yeah,

438
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.000
yeah, yeah, yeah, when
you I can't remember the turn,

439
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:07.839
but yeah, it's like the limit
break thing basically, and just like I

440
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.000
just go handle the ching ching ching
is the story everything. So like I

441
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.680
had like a like a routine.
We're like, okay, clearly this this,

442
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:15.880
this, this and this, and
then we'll cycle back to the beginning

443
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:21.480
and just keep it going. I
used the Phoenix, Ramu and Bahamad for

444
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:26.200
most of the game. I loved
using Phoenix to be able to you have

445
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.279
the flames of rebirth where you can
heal yourself yeah in a bad moment.

446
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:37.319
And then I love switching between I
love that the rising Flames one where you

447
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.160
just basically do like a big ass
uppercut that takes off like half their health

448
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:41.920
or the old health, and it's
just like an awesome movie. You can

449
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.079
pull out of nowhere and just oh
he turned around right from my face,

450
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.920
bamn, and you can see him
like, knock him out. That's great.

451
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:55.279
And uh, I love doing Ramu
to both the pile driver move where

452
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.319
you're doing the area air attack like
Randy does. And then I love doing

453
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.240
the big old where you just like
slam it down and take out like one

454
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.599
dude completely, and then the course
the special one is even more awesome because

455
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.599
it just takes out like half their
stagger bar or the health bar. And

456
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.839
then of course Bahama it's all his
mood set is awesome because you can just

457
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:21.720
I love using that impulse constantly because
it kills their stagger things so quick.

458
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:23.839
Yeah, and then any moment that
you need to take out a bunch of

459
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:29.160
enemies and it's perfect for that because
it I use the everything like you're saying.

460
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.279
But then there's times where like they're
not all in a nice little rose

461
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.759
so when you start turning around,
he doesn't. He doesn't really grab people

462
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.880
here, You're kind of having to
like really twist and turn that thing.

463
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:45.079
So whatever he doesn't grab them,
Bahama will just take out the rest with

464
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.799
the impulse things. So I love
because like by the end of like when

465
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.680
you have like the big like when
you're finding like, um, I'm pretty

466
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.680
sure yeah, when you're finding like
the Behemoth, like you're in terms of

467
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.839
the end of the game, the
big ass Behemoth, Like I'm just like

468
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.559
stalling letting megaflare refill, and it
also like, just send the Impulse.

469
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.319
I'm like, i can't afford to
stop to attacks. I'm just gonna say

470
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:07.200
impulse and Impulse will do like it's
you know, let's do this a little

471
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.359
or whatever, and it's like,
okay, the bars full, all right,

472
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.960
let's just hit him with a big
ass beam while we still can kind

473
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:16.039
of thing like that was pretty much
just like I was just how Niky Bosses

474
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:20.759
was with behamed by the end,
I think one of my favorite things and

475
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.680
it never got old, even though
you play this game for like fifty hours.

476
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:29.880
Is getting to a stagger on a
big enemy and you have set it

477
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.319
up perfectly where you have everything is
refilled at the right time, and you

478
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.559
just catch all of them and you
just like, let's see how high this

479
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.839
number could get. And by the
time you've used them all and your limit

480
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.279
break, some of them have come
back. You're like, you sucked,

481
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:49.000
dude, here we go your staggers
still not fix. All right, let's

482
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.279
do it again round two, And
every time it just felt satisfying. It's

483
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.759
like, all right, and even
when you do the ultimates, it thoughts

484
00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.519
them, so you can even do
it when they're not stag and they will

485
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.000
stop them in their tracks right there, and you still can whoop them after

486
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.319
that, which is yeah, it's
even I love doing that the exact same

487
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.280
thing. I would wait until everybody
everything's filled up, then I'd hit the

488
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:16.199
limit break and then I would do
the stagger part and just unload everything.

489
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.400
And it's so satisfying. It doesn't
matter how many times you do it.

490
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:27.039
Another thing that's, you know,
is fantastic about this game is, obviously,

491
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.719
you know, we talked about it, the icon battles, and I

492
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.000
think, like I've heard you know, you you listen to people, you

493
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.679
watch people, you go on and
write it. Everybody's thoughts, Like what

494
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:44.599
was your favorite icon fight of the
all the ones in the game. Actually,

495
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.280
my favorite one actually was It was
Bahammad at first, and then it

496
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:52.000
was the Odin fight. What I
really liked about the Odin one was the

497
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.920
moment where you break his sword and
then you use the sword against his like

498
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.840
horse or whatever, like you do
the skin like reverse it on him or

499
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.920
whatever, and then he like he's
like you dare or something like that.

500
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:10.480
I was like, yeah, I
dare whole that was like probably the hard

501
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.000
Honestly, I found that fight to
be harder than Ultimu himself. Like yeah,

502
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.880
so like I mean it kind of
helps the games like kind of kind

503
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.639
of holds your hand where like if
you die, like you just start like

504
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.679
at the previous checkpoint with all your
items refilled. So like it's it's not

505
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.960
it's almost impossible to like lose,
like completely lose. I mean it is

506
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.039
possible if you don't try hard enough, I guess, but like you,

507
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.039
I don't even not gonna try.
So there was like a part where I

508
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.719
was like stuck for three rounds because
I could just not I just couldn't get

509
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:45.039
to the next like cut scene checkpoint
to like trigger like okay, like this

510
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:47.760
is gonna be the next checkpoint where
like it was when he's wearing like the

511
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.079
full armor, right he's like you're
fighting barnabus on grat on the floor and

512
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.480
you're like on a statue I think
or something. But like I just he

513
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:58.519
it was just like so combo heavy
that was really hard for me to nail

514
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.000
all like the like went to dodge, went to jump because like like different

515
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.480
animations have different like links or attack
animations have different like lengths and stuff.

516
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.639
So like I was stuck there for
about two or three like deaths until I

517
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.519
finally figured it out and I was
finally able to get to like the next

518
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.000
portion of the battle. So that
was the one where I actually felt like

519
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.519
I had to try the hardest because
like you're going into the fight and it's

520
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:22.480
like he's already like bested you twice. Like I mean there were story parts,

521
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.719
but like he's already best in you
twice, so like you know,

522
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:30.239
this guy's like the legit, the
real deal and just the whole like it's

523
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.960
just like sword on sword, like
his whole thing is like like his element

524
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.880
is darkness or whatever, but like
he really just has a big ass sword

525
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.119
kind of thing. So it just
feels like, I don't know, it's

526
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.039
like a really bad like just one
on one kind of like the Slatner fight

527
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.079
you have earlier in the game,
like with the silver haired guy like the

528
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:50.880
commander of his Guard, where it's
just a good yeah yeah, we has

529
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.960
like the armors just a biggest sword
fight. It was like it was just

530
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:58.000
kind of like that again. So
that was although going into space with Muhammad

531
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.559
was badass, I think the the
Odin fight just felt way more like hided

532
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.800
for me, like way more more
tension. Yeah, I'm with Andrew.

533
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.039
I think Bahamas was probably my favorite, but it was the Titan fight that

534
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:13.480
made me just go, what is
this game? Because there was like thirteen

535
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:17.840
different stages to that fight, and
every single one of them was completely different,

536
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.320
and everyone felt like, all right, this is it, and it's

537
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.840
like now now you have to run
across his arms. All right, now

538
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:29.480
you're going through his body and if
you take forever, then I guess Titan

539
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.679
absolutely gigantic because that fight could take
a bit while you're falling through the ground

540
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.599
and then you get more and then
you're doing this and that. I'm like,

541
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.679
that was really the the fight where
I went, I don't know what

542
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:51.159
this game is an Yeah, that
that fight is something else, Like I

543
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.800
think everybody that kind of has gone
when they go through that fight, it's

544
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:58.840
like, holy crap. Wow.
But it also feels like it takes forever

545
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.840
because there's parts where it's like,
oh my god, I'm doing the same

546
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.760
like three movements constantly you can try
to avoid his attacks and then going into

547
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:15.360
mind and whatever. Um. I
would say that, like it's amazing too.

548
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:17.000
They've had other games where you play
as a summon. It's like ten

549
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:22.039
and stuff like that, but it's
actually super fun to play as E Free

550
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:25.800
and and also to know that his
name is he Free and not if it

551
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:34.880
right, I call him for it
forever and then like Free, I'm like,

552
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:39.119
oh you say the eye like that? Okay, yeah, that's he's

553
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:45.599
like come to me like, uh, actually really like the fight where you're

554
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:53.039
fighting yourself Okay, oh yeah,
Like that's actually yes, that one's like

555
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:58.440
really good. And it's like not
only the story part right where because he's

556
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:06.480
accepting the fact that like also like
you have to accept the fact that you're

557
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.000
this dominant now, and um,
you do kind of do the Kingdom Hearts

558
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.320
like anti Sooro thing where you fight
yourself and then you fight E Free and

559
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.440
then you know, you fight yourself
and you free again, and it's like,

560
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.599
wow, this feels epic. It
feels awesome. And then you go

561
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.960
back to the you know, it's
like, man, can I do that

562
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:28.159
again? Yeah? I mean none
of the icon fights are are bad.

563
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.199
They're all great. Um. It
kind of feels kind of sad that like

564
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:36.840
Garuda doesn't get this like big epic
one. I feel like hers feels the

565
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.519
most I guess ordinary compared to the
other ones, but yeah, man,

566
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:50.000
they're all scott which one mine was
probably gonna be Bahamas. My favorite um

567
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.719
Titan though, was the one that
I had to record. I recorded myself

568
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.519
for the Outer Haven and then had
to throw out the thing because I left

569
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:01.039
the stupid controller microphone on, so
you have the stupid echo going on,

570
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:06.280
as well as in some of the
fight areas where it was a little more

571
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:12.360
hard where I was actually having a
little struggles with, especially like when you're

572
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.400
fighting him in like the little room
and he's constantly just throwing spikes from the

573
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:20.400
ground and from the sky all over
you and you just have to keep dodging

574
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.440
and weaving without dying. It's a
great fight, but holy crap, it

575
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:28.079
was intense. There's like three moments
in that fight where I thought like,

576
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:32.519
Okay, we're done, and I
was like, no, I think that

577
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.199
My favorite fight is still probably a
Behammed, just because of just it shows

578
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:42.840
you the scale of everything that's going
on, so well, you're in space,

579
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.320
yes, and then it really feels
like it turned through it a completely

580
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.159
different game because you're like just basically
like a spaceship or whatever. What I

581
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.519
like about that fight though, with
Bohammad is. I like, how like

582
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.519
he keeps ratching up kind of like
like moham goes like Super Sayan and Super

583
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.840
Sian too, and then like Super
Sayan where it's like Mega Flare, Giga

584
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.039
Flare, Tara Flare, Like we're
just going through all the Flair tiers and

585
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.920
stuff. It's like like by the
time like you're the last pem, he's

586
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.079
like all golden. It kind of
reminds of the last Vohamat you get in

587
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.000
Fancy seven because you get like the
different types of Bohammets. It's like,

588
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.960
now we're in space. Just like
how like in that Summit I seven like

589
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.039
that one, like he's literally firing
from space. I'm like okay, like

590
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.719
there's like that's a that's a nod. That's like a Final Fantasy seven not

591
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.639
right. Yeah, yeah, they
get to Zeta Flair. Then I was

592
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:36.079
thinking about Donald Duck the whole time. No one is as strong as Donald

593
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:44.199
Duck in the Final Fair. I
mean, another awesome thing about this game

594
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:49.760
is the music. God Yeah,
obviously um and all of the fights had

595
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.559
their own theme, and then you
know you had the different boss battle themes

596
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.840
than obviously the other music. That's
in the game, Like, do you

597
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:00.320
have a favorite piece of music that
when it came on you're like, yeah,

598
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.000
I'm going, I'm ready, you
know, let's do this. I

599
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.840
mean, obviously, what is it
to find? The Flame one is the

600
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:07.760
one you hear the most. That
one's great. I love the Phoenix one.

601
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:15.119
I forget what the actual title of
that song is, but the the

602
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.880
opera stuff that goes on during that
song is just fantastic. I actually listened

603
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:22.400
to it before we started. It
was one of the few that that I

604
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.480
was listening to. I remember,
like during the final fight, I absolutely

605
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:29.920
loved that song, just because it
felt like it was a mix of a

606
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.039
lot of the ones that we've had. But going back actually listening to it,

607
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:36.280
it wasn't this epic. Maybe it
was just because the final fight was

608
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:37.119
going on and I was like,
all right, this is just it.

609
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.000
But yeah, I think the Phoenix
theme is is my favorite song out of

610
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:47.559
here. But the soundtrack is fantastic. There's the opening notes of the regular

611
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:52.199
like battle thing we're just finding like
regular mobs. It's like so reminiscent of

612
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:57.880
Pall Fantasy eight, where the like
the very beginnings, like that was this

613
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.159
extra Phomacy eight. But my favorite
check in it's shudn't say it's my theory

614
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:06.119
because I don't remember the name,
but it's uh the background music that it

615
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.760
plays when you're when you're in that
one forest section early on. Um,

616
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.880
you can go back to it later
on obviously they're like, yeah, it

617
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.159
has this really cool, like just
mellow sound to it. I really like

618
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:21.159
it's just very distinct from the rest
of the game. Um. But yeah,

619
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:22.320
I think that that track, I
don't know what's called it someone that

620
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.599
plays when you remember you're in that
forest, when when you Sid first takes

621
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.559
you out to that forest and you
fight that big like rolling blizzard thing.

622
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:34.239
Yeah, the background music that plays
there is really nice. And uh yeah,

623
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.639
like um, like Randy said,
the course of the Phoenix thing.

624
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:37.599
I think those are the two ones
that really stuck out because I was going

625
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.239
to the forest a lot for like
side plays and stuff, but when you

626
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.800
fight the griffin and all that.
So I really liked the four I don't

627
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.440
know what's called. I just called
it forrest theme, but it's really true.

628
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.960
My favorite one is actually probably Sid's
theme the hide Hideaway. Yeah,

629
00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.119
I didn't think like I I guess
I think it's because of Reef doing the

630
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.800
game again and hearing some of the
themes in my head. I didn't recognize

631
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.639
just how much actually like Sid's theme
until Sid shows up for the first time,

632
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.800
and it's just like, how's it
going? After he saves you from

633
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.320
all the humongous people at Lightning and
then his theme comes on, It's just

634
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.280
like, this is such a good
song. How come I couldn't remember at

635
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:21.840
all because he's not here in the
second half. Well, you still hear

636
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.800
it when you go to the Hideaway
every day. Yeah, but that made

637
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.920
me want to fit and be in
the Hideaway because that song is I agree

638
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:36.480
with you, it's actually so good
that it works. Um, I guess

639
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.280
it's the main boss team. There's
like two or three that are sort of

640
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:44.679
like they keep changing depending on you're
fighting. The one that plays when you

641
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.599
do the hunts. For me,
like every time I came on, I'm

642
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.000
like, okay, let's go.
I'm ready to kill whatever this thing is

643
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.119
like, and it's so good.
I can hear it on repeat a bunch

644
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:58.559
of times, and I think it's
gonna wind up being like one of the

645
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.719
battle themes that stand. You know, I know you can probably rank those

646
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.840
with all the other I think it's
it stands up there with with some of

647
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:10.360
the better ones of all the pop
fantasy stuff. Do you guys have a

648
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:15.039
favorite hunt that? I don't know
if everybody's like done? Me and Randy

649
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.079
both did all of them, Like
I only did like three or four?

650
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.519
How can you live with yourself?
I was rushing my playtime, thank you

651
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:29.800
very well? Okay, people,
how need me down to right stuff?

652
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:34.039
And I was like, I want
to play the game. Both there's one

653
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.119
there's a reason why I did it
like the second half of this game because

654
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:42.360
holy goddamn quests exclamation marks, And
two there's a reason why I will never

655
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.639
beat the Witch or three if you
throw exclamation marks and question marks on my

656
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:50.960
screen, I have to complete them. The shame goes with the hunts.

657
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:52.880
And that's why I was like,
oh, I just I want to finish

658
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:57.880
this game. But but there's seventeen
question marks still over here, and three

659
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:05.199
of them could be good. I
can't remember that, I will say,

660
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:09.559
but most of the side quests felt
very much fetch QUESTI yeah, very mmmo.

661
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:16.440
We know where that came from.
Inspiration from go pick up the sand

662
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:22.400
for me? Was just like,
you know what, that's the main quest

663
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:27.519
too. It was when you're building
the ship or whatever. It really mad

664
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.119
at me because I'd be skipping dialogue
and it's like, what do you do?

665
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:36.119
It's like, this is like literally
when when your main character goes why

666
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.679
am I doing this? Or you
go up to somebody you shouldn't be doing

667
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.840
this. You're you're the leaders,
Like, I know I shouldn't be doing

668
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.400
this, but I am because no
one else is stepping up here. Thank

669
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:51.039
you. No attack the two things
that you need mean to attack and I'll

670
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.320
move on. But no, all
the the str rank hunts, I thought,

671
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.280
we're all pretty good. I like
that there was a big variety of

672
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:02.199
the different kind of animals that you
fought. I really enjoyed the fact that

673
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.199
they went, hey, it's it's
it's in this area kind of I go

674
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.199
find yeah, and then you look
through the map to try to find it.

675
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:14.119
And it was really the only reason
to explore, Like the only thing

676
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.320
that made expiration rewarding was finding at
the end of the time that you'd be

677
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:21.400
there is oh there's a hunt.
Okay, cool, let's say And honestly,

678
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:23.559
I mean, I I've I've flipped
them crap for not doing the hunts.

679
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.519
You don't have to do them,
because yeah, what do you get

680
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.280
for most of them? Three of
the same item. I have five hundred

681
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.280
of already and I don't use so
yeah, but you like some more?

682
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.480
Why right? No, but I'd
like a meteor I Oh, well,

683
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.280
I can't help you with that.
Yeah, give you that. That's the

684
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.800
one you got to go buy at
the store, and they only have like

685
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.960
one of and so I was so
annoyed. I like, I needed like

686
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:49.360
three more meteorites for one of like
the best weapons in the end game.

687
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:51.599
And it's just like, where do
I get meteorites? I don't know.

688
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:57.960
One of the side quests, which
one I think I liked? Um,

689
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:02.079
the drag Dragon is like one of
the last ones you get. It's called

690
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:07.599
like the Ruined we Awakening or something
in the hunt board it That dude is

691
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.880
no joke. You really should be
close for like level fifty when you fight

692
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.519
him, because it's he spamsy with
ship and then he all of a sudden,

693
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.320
he's just like he's not like the
other dragons that you fight in the

694
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.920
game, Like he has different attacks
that are all like you know, Firebase

695
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.679
and he gets to the point where
he just like does all three at the

696
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:29.119
same time, and I'm just like, what the hell is it? Something

697
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.159
like I'm trying not to die.
I remember fighting him the first time.

698
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.599
I don't think I would. I
was probably like low forties or whatever,

699
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:38.559
and I'm like, all right,
this is going great. And then I

700
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:42.159
died. I'm like, I had
two thirds of my health left. So

701
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.320
yeah, move just happened here.
Just the screen went insane and I was

702
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.679
bad. Yeah, okay, I
will come back to this later, and

703
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.079
this not for me, as I
am not ready for you, sir,

704
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.559
But yeah, I remember that that
was good. Yeah. There's the big

705
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.159
behemoth that you fight also in one
those is uh pretty great too. I

706
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:07.840
mean there are like all variations of
people that you find. There's actually two,

707
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:14.400
there's two of them. Wow,
there's one that a quest and then

708
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:19.480
there's another one that's like the big, big behemoth. Yeah. So yeah,

709
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.000
so like that kind of leads me
into getting you know, let's get

710
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.800
into I guess this. Oh.
We forgot to mention one character, which

711
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:35.360
is probably the most well done of
the female characters mid mid Awesome. Her

712
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.920
act for one, the voice actress
is awesome because I love her accent.

713
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:46.320
She's definitely not mid and she has
like one of the best moments where it

714
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.639
does feel like you have a party
where she's like it's the first time you

715
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.440
have the airship or whatever, and
she's like ordering all of you guys like

716
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.119
Okay, everybody get in the line, and then they all have to like

717
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.840
that yeah, And I'm just like, man, we should have more moments

718
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:04.599
like this where it feels like they're
all battling together. And I'm like,

719
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.360
I always said the leader when he
had med who could have been a leader

720
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.719
does? Yeah? You know what's
funny about that is, uh, as

721
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:14.039
you guys mentioned that right now,
I didn't realize how much of a cast

722
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.519
of side characters there was until the
very end of the game where you see

723
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:20.480
them all like lined up in front
of you and it's like, oh,

724
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.320
shoot, like there really is a
lot of side characters and pull up this

725
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.800
game. That's not just Clive.
Yeah. Yeah, but I didn't really.

726
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:30.239
I just I it just hit me
when you see them all like lined

727
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.719
up for like the last farewell before
the final fighting, and like it's like,

728
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.760
oh shoot, like they like they
just kind of just because you only

729
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.239
see them like one at a time
and like scattered throughout the whole story.

730
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:39.800
And again, like everybody lined up
in front of me, and it's like,

731
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.039
oh, that's right, you have
you know, Karen and Goots and

732
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.039
Byron and Mid and the Tombs,
and like I was like, oh,

733
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.119
shoot, Like it's actually a big
cast of characters. It's just like you

734
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.400
just don't spend that much time with
them individually. It seems like like you

735
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:54.039
don't really get to know I guess, I guess if you do the side

736
00:50:54.119 --> 00:51:01.000
question if you do at the ends. Yeah again, Andrew side quest at

737
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.679
the very end, Andrew that I
knew there were so many side characters when

738
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:12.679
there were seventeen question marks. There
are too many side characters in there that

739
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.840
doesn't include Martha at her in and
then the guy that was at the desert

740
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:21.719
place his stuff, and yeah,
the one to move board, the one

741
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:23.400
I'm glad that I did do,
was the one that gets you Ambrosia back,

742
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.800
the Chokabo back, because yes,
I couldn't imagine doing the whole rest

743
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:36.320
of the game without especially because there's
understand yeah, somebody understand why Clive has

744
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:43.920
to like do a jog and then
gradually then he has to turn a porter,

745
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:50.239
which stops him again. No,
I lost the moment because doesn't have

746
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.199
the dedicated panics going on here or
like, oh, you can't use Ambrosia

747
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:59.079
here. I'm like, oh,
come on, man, that's a yeah,

748
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.199
even Ambrosia. It gets a nice
story at the end. Hey,

749
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:06.280
that's so cool. Though, it's
like a it's a silver Chokable with an

750
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.559
eyepash. I'm like, yeah,
that's that's a hard ass choko bo.

751
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.800
I mean, she didn't go through
the Phoenix Gate thing. It's like it's

752
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:19.960
like everyone's like solid stink or something
or something. Yeah, why can't we

753
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:25.760
see his character arcs? That's that's
DLC. Honestly, I wish they do

754
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.480
have DLC for the other characters.
Well, they said they weren't gonna do

755
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:32.400
DLC, right, but then they
said, we're like rexam, we are.

756
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.119
We're re examining if we should or
not because now we're successful. We

757
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:39.280
didn't think it's going to be as
successful apparently, right right, that's how

758
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:44.000
Square Phoenix works. We're not planning
on DLC. Strangers of Paradise. Oh

759
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.000
crap, people bought the game.
Never mind, We're we have three DLC

760
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:50.159
packs. On the way. Don't
worry, you get a couple of million

761
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:53.559
more out of these people's right.
Yeah, well we'll get into that too,

762
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.519
and a little bit like what we
think the DLC will be. But

763
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:04.559
like getting into I guess the story. I mean, obviously it's based around

764
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:08.519
Clive. He's your main character.
It starts with him and Joshua, and

765
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:14.760
then I think one of the themes
that I love the most of this game

766
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:22.159
is how he Clive is always Joshua
shield from beginning to end. Even when

767
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:27.480
he is Clive and he is the
main guy, he still cares so much

768
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:32.880
for his brother that it's important to
him that Joshua lives on, even though

769
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:38.159
you know he's supposed to be the
god here or whatever. Like, I

770
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:44.239
love that they kept that consistent throughout
the game, and from the moment you

771
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:49.960
see them together, you feel that
moment for them, which obviously gets heightened

772
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.639
when you think he's dead, to
the rest of the time where they find

773
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.800
each other and you have all these
big moments with them, and it's like,

774
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.920
that's so rewarding to me, is
that the Joshua and Clive relationship in

775
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:07.199
this game. But I love the
flashbacks that they had between the two where

776
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:12.679
you kind of see because obviously the
mom absolutely hates Clive because he wasn't granted

777
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.840
all the Phoenix powers, so he
what a horrible human being he is.

778
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:21.360
And I'm gonna move on to Joshua
and stuff, But just seeing how Clive

779
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.599
accepted his role and was like,
no, that's fine. I was always

780
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:28.320
going to protect my little brother,
but now I have a reason too even

781
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.280
more, and this is my role, and I'm going to make sure he's

782
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:36.360
the best Phoenix that he could be. And just kind of as they reunite

783
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:40.360
and that that bond regrows, you
kind of then get to go back and

784
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.360
see just how close they were as
kids and thought I thought those two and

785
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:50.280
and their brotherhood was was told really
well. Love. I love how later

786
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:54.360
on like, um, Joshua obviously
you know he comes back and they now

787
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:59.760
there's like two fire dominance and then
like when the team up du like it's

788
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:01.119
just it feels like if you played
King Harts. It feels like when you

789
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.400
get Ricou back with Sore at the
end of Harts Too, where it's like

790
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.719
it's like, all right, we
got both the boys back. They both

791
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.199
are like super Saan, Yeah,
you got back, like let's do this,

792
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.559
let's do this, like just like
when they do when they combine into

793
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.920
like that improved like if you like
whatever with the wings. I was like,

794
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.960
oh, this is like again,
this is like it's like the fusion

795
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:28.159
dance for dragon Like, let's not
do the King the Marsing. I missed

796
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.639
the dragon ball Z stuff. That's
like whenever you think like okay, like

797
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:35.599
the game can't get more like crazy
than it keeps getting crazy, and I'm

798
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.239
just like I love this, man, I love this. That that's I

799
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:44.440
think for me, what makes this
game stand out the most is the presentation

800
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:50.440
just absolutely nails everything and perhaps maybe
scoring and it has to start thinking about

801
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.239
maybe the English feel is a little
bit more important than the Japanese. I

802
00:55:53.280 --> 00:56:00.400
don't know, but like they just
got such perfect voiceover for most of their

803
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.000
main casts. They did record the
English version first, right I heard yeah,

804
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:09.960
yeah, is matched to the English
version exactly, Yes, But it's

805
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:14.280
not even the list thing. It's
like the way that most of the conversations

806
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:20.119
are not stilted unless you go into
like the very low end side quest where

807
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:23.760
it's like literally literally tell you can
you help feed these people? Sure?

808
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:30.199
Yeah, But like all the main
story stuff is so well done. It

809
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.519
feels natural. It feels that they're
talking to each other. It's not like

810
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.639
somebody standing there England. And then
there's like a ten second pause and then

811
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:49.000
so you're saying, yeah, would
you say ready, I didn't hear you.

812
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:52.679
Oh. Some of the side quests
made me feel like the game we're

813
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:57.840
gonna stand on our mark and we're
just gonna stare into space and say our

814
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:01.119
line with the least amount of emotion
possible. All right, now go yeah.

815
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:07.079
Now that's not just the side quest, that's also their main the game.

816
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:13.880
I will not tolerate this, spith
as the slander. Alright, you're

817
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:20.880
right, they like Bethesda jink.
Yeah. I love the Bethesda games.

818
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.239
I loved Oblivion. I love Fallout
four and three and New Vegas, which

819
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:29.599
I mean obviously that's Obsidian, but
still same regard. But they do have

820
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:34.679
their issues. That is one of
their big ones. Actually, there was

821
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.000
I had zero glitchers in this game. It was Yeah, it was really

822
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:40.760
polished, like there was very minimal
clipping and if at all, what a

823
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.679
different simation. But you can have
like a whole year toolish the game.

824
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:47.119
Yeah, they did a lot with
polishing the game, and they're like,

825
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.320
yeah, the game's done already,
but we want to make sure that it's

826
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:54.079
perfect, and that that makes a
huge difference. Um, you know,

827
00:57:54.199 --> 00:58:00.719
you touched on a rainy But like, I do think that the Ultimate from

828
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:05.360
where it starts to where it ends, like the way they reveal all of

829
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.559
these things and they're kind of pushing
you through it. Maybe the way that

830
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:10.920
he says that at the end,
it's kind of like, oh, yeah,

831
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:14.960
I was trying to get you to
do that. But like, what

832
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.519
do y'all think about I guess how
they built up the big bad? Do

833
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.519
you think he was a good big
bad in the ends? Like Ultima's fine,

834
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:27.800
yeah, but I also think that
it suffers a lot from the same

835
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:31.800
regard as a like Final Fantasy twelve
is where the ideology and the and like

836
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:36.360
the characters are a lot more interesting, and then when they do finally pull

837
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:39.440
out the reason why this one character
has been acting so weird is than just

838
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:44.079
like it feels almost like a cop
out at times. But Ultima was a

839
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:49.039
better version of that than Twelves,
but it still had that same issue of

840
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:52.760
it being the all like the stuff
surrounding the character's interesting, but the character

841
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.159
themselves as the villain is kind of
just yeah, ultimome's the reason. He's

842
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.280
just like, oh, we just
wanted to make our own planet that magic

843
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:02.000
existed, because magic seems to just
destroy every planet it's on. Yeah.

844
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:05.960
I agree with Scott too, where
obviously twelve was one of my favorite ones,

845
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.519
and the whole thing with Vain.
Vain, who's like the main attachons,

846
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:13.840
is way more interesting before you find
out he's being manipulated by the Vanat

847
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:15.679
And at that point it's like it's
like, oh, man, like you

848
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:19.840
were way more intriguing before I found
out you're just the puppet kind of thing.

849
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:21.800
You had a reason. I thought
that was going to be interesting,

850
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:23.320
but it turns out no, just
God told me so, Yeah, exactly,

851
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:28.400
exactly. Yeah, I do agree
with that. It's Ultima makes as

852
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.039
much sense as time compression all that
crap makes sense. And found Fantasy eight

853
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:37.800
where I'm just kind of like like
what people yeah, like okay, sure,

854
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:42.800
why not? I mean like I
feel like I think Barnabas kind of

855
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:45.320
muddies that a little bit too,
where he comes in here and it's like

856
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:51.400
like he knows you have to take
his icon to fulfill the whole thing that

857
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:53.039
Ultima wants him to do, but
he's still like putting up a fight,

858
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:58.000
and it's like like aren't you getting
aren't you like contradicting yourself getting in the

859
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.800
way of this prophecy thing, But
like, yeah, you know what I

860
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.159
mean, Like there's some things that
towards the end of the game where because

861
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:06.239
I saw some tweets about this too, where people were saying, like,

862
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.400
the first two thirds of the game
story wise are solid, and then it

863
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:13.440
kind of just does the final fantasy
thing where it kind of just can't really

864
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:17.400
nail the story landing. It just
becomes like you were like you know,

865
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:21.679
like like like Randy said, like
you're destroying the crystals because I wanted YouTube.

866
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:23.519
It's like like what no, like
Sid wanted us to do in the

867
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:25.280
first place. And I'm like,
you know what I mean, Like it's

868
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:30.039
how did you do the rest?
And like, I don't know, It's

869
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:35.920
just it you have to ask yourself, like why would Ultimate want to interfere

870
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:37.719
with you destroying the crystals if that's
what she wanted to from the get go

871
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:42.320
to do, right, Yeah,
I don't know if they just could not

872
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.039
come up with an ending, But
you guys brought up two great points and

873
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:52.679
final Fascy history with eight and twelve, where Final Fasty for the entire time

874
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:54.800
was like, oh, here's your
big bad the whole time, just kidding,

875
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.800
here's your real bad bad. Yeah, Ultima was always the big bad.

876
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.360
I was waiting because I would agree
with you guys, this final fight

877
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:05.239
was okay. I was like,
all right, well, this is just

878
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.760
a setup to whatever was really controlling
Ultimate that we've never seen before. No,

879
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:14.639
it was just Ultimate. But like
Andrew said, it was the entire

880
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:17.679
first half with Ultimate, which I
loved, was like I need to weaken

881
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:22.880
you and I need to make you
feel weak and have no hope, and

882
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.119
that was his whole thing. Is
like, oh wait, okay, so

883
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:30.599
I didn't understand this about the human
being, So now I have to defeat

884
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:34.320
this, and now I have to
make you weak this way. And then

885
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:37.039
at the end it's like, Nope, Barnabass is going to make you stronger

886
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:39.000
and you have to be in your
ultimate form for he to for him to

887
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:42.199
be able to take it over.
No, that's not what you were saying

888
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.960
this whole time. Yeah, so
it just kind of flipped itself on its

889
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:47.960
head, and I was like,
I was really excited to kind of see

890
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:53.920
where things were going and seeing different
spoiler casters are out and the different theories

891
01:01:54.000 --> 01:02:00.320
of it. Was Barnabyss who sent
Benedict's head, Yeah, definitely was barnamous

892
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:08.960
continue building all that kind of stuff
up and really sing humanity to its edge.

893
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:13.519
Was like this, this is like
it was built so fantastically and in

894
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:15.760
the end it was like, no, all of this happened because I wanted

895
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:20.480
it to. No, didn't stop
it just at one point go, you

896
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:23.280
know what, I've done everything I
can. You're just a pest and now

897
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:28.199
I'm just gonna kill you because you're
I can't do this anymore. Not No,

898
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:31.679
this was all part of my master
plan written by your brother in his

899
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:36.000
book that we saw. Yeah,
I like that. I thought that was

900
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:37.639
cool. I kind of like the
ending. I like, yeah, like

901
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:42.920
the post credit scene was built up
in one of the side quests by the

902
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:46.760
way, Yeah, I heard about
that the case people are confused, Yes

903
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:51.079
there was. There was built up
for that, like after credit scene if

904
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:53.000
you did the side quest near the
end, but it was one of like

905
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:57.159
the twenty of them, so if
you yeah, yeah, exactly you have

906
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.239
to know which one of the twenty
you have to do before. I don't

907
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.679
know how close we are to any
of this, but I would be remissed

908
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:07.920
to neglect this part. I love. I like the idea of of how

909
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.559
deep the lore is in the background
of the game. Yeah, yeah,

910
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:15.239
what's her name? I think it's
not Vivian. There you go. She

911
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:20.599
kind of has this whole like the
Games of Thrones interests moving like okay,

912
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:22.440
yeah, yeah, the arrows showing
you like, oh, like Barton of

913
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.119
Us, like he's not from here, he came from some other continent.

914
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:30.559
He conquered this continent, and like
he brought he revived this religion that like

915
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.480
went out of style like years ago. Like I love like the background stuff

916
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:37.800
and the like the active time lower
stuff that you just push the button and

917
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.199
like here's how all these characters are
connected. And then here's the timeline if

918
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:44.199
you want to get more in depth
with it of like who's the like who

919
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.320
kills who and kind of stuff.
Like I love how how they thought about

920
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.960
that to make it where it's not
just like when you get a time,

921
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.000
like when you get time, here's
the glossary or an index like way over

922
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:59.039
here kind of and it's not even
just characters or the way different groups have

923
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:01.960
been handled items and stuff like there
weres parts fere I'm like, what is

924
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:08.440
the second moon? Yeah, you
click the button and it tells you about

925
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.920
it, or yeah, when they
got handcuffs, I'm like, how does

926
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.039
this work? You click it?
And they have For the longest time,

927
01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.039
I thought there was like a red
smudge on my screen. I was like,

928
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:18.639
what is But then I was like, no, no, it only

929
01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:20.760
shows up when the moon shows up. Like Okay, it's not smudge,

930
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:23.920
that's like the star or something.
Really, it's like, yeah, when

931
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:27.159
you find it in the in the
like the little lord thingy, and it

932
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:29.480
tells you like, oh, it
has a name, and here's like its

933
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:32.519
relationship, like not just like in
position, but like also also like here's

934
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.280
a lower reason, like why these
people think that this moon has this name

935
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:39.280
or represents this thing. I was
like, Oh, that's so cool that

936
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.519
you do that, and and like
you shaid it with Vivian and and the

937
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.000
way she was showing you how the
different battles worked, and and her map

938
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.559
was kind of showing me the blight, which I guess we haven't talked about

939
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:50.719
because it was just it was such
a side thing. They were like,

940
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:55.599
oh, the blight's coming over what
is it? It was a good playing

941
01:04:55.639 --> 01:05:01.199
the number ending story. But and
I another thing that kind of rubbed me

942
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.840
the wrong way a little bit was
what you just brought up where she's like,

943
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:06.800
well, Barnamiss was over here and
we really what I loved is she

944
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:10.920
didn't know much about him because he
was on this island and nobody could get

945
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.000
over there. And then you get
over there, it's like, well,

946
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:16.840
we know nothing about him because his
entire army's dead and yeah, and he

947
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:21.519
really rules nothing over here, so
that's why nothing's happening from him. But

948
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:26.159
but yeah, I love that.
It's just you just at any point you

949
01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:30.960
could just it was a very lived
in world and you could it was maybe

950
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:35.639
have an explanation for why Gil is
called Gil the currency, like yeah,

951
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:41.400
it's founded by this banker named something
Gillian. Like that's cool because like that's

952
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:44.840
the thing from across like Chocobo's and
Google is like the money is always Gil.

953
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:46.639
It's always Gail. I don't know
why, but it's always Gail.

954
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:49.280
And like, oh, here's an
actual reason why it's called Gil. And

955
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:54.320
like that is so cool. I
love like those extra details that are not

956
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:57.360
necessary, but like we're just gonna
put them there. Anyways. Well,

957
01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:00.400
I started doing was before like a
big scene you can actually do the actil

958
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.920
woman. It gives you context for
like what you're about to watch. So

959
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:10.280
it's like it's a wonderful tool for
in so many ways of just being able

960
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:13.519
to tell you, oh, these
are the things that you're about to like

961
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:15.519
see, and then you kind of
know what they are, and then when

962
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:18.599
they talk about them, you don't
feel like you'd be like what are they

963
01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:25.440
talking about? Like you actually knows
so active time more for every JRPG from

964
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:28.320
here on out. Yes, now, yeah, that definitely needs to be

965
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:30.400
in there. I would kind of
cheat a little bit with it, where

966
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:32.400
like someone would show up and like
I would immediately like tell me who they

967
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:35.920
are before they introduce themselves, like
I would try to read up ahead.

968
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.440
No, and then also, like
the thing with Vivian is it tells you

969
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:45.519
like how they all know each other, Right, there's that part of Okay,

970
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.440
this person's relationship started here, and
this is how they know each other.

971
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:51.960
And then this is like there's so
much for you to learn if you

972
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:59.239
want to and it's not read fifty
volumes of text. It's there for you

973
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:03.559
and explained, which is way better
than a lot of other fantacy to do

974
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:08.559
it where it's like, yeah,
we have encyclopedias here for you. Yeah,

975
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:11.360
I don't want to real. A
lot of you guys ever played Star

976
01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:15.280
Ocean in three, But Star Ocean
three has that where it's like thick,

977
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:18.079
thick, like just a wall of
text. Yeah. Everything, It's like,

978
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:20.000
this is cool. Bit man,
it's just a wall of text.

979
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:24.760
Like it's like not, yeah,
it's not giving me any kind of people

980
01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:30.760
read in video games. No,
I mean you mentioned it. The blight

981
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:38.599
is really it's sort of like a
just this is why we're having to do

982
01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:44.239
the things we do because all this
stuff is gonna get die anyway, like

983
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:47.000
you know, and and oh,
well the crystals are the way we're gonna

984
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:50.960
end the blight or whatever. So
I guess it kind of gives them a

985
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:59.679
context as to why they need to
eventually destroy the crystals, so it exists

986
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:02.920
for reason in a way. And
uh, also so you can have the

987
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:13.760
night King hordes happened that Cassic or
that too. Um yeah, man,

988
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:17.640
there's there's really just a lot of
it's actually fascinating, Like I watched this

989
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:24.359
thing of like how many Game of
Thrones things they took like literally took from

990
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:30.039
there and put into this game,
and it's it's cool that. Another thing

991
01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:33.239
we haven't really talked about is is
how bearers are basically slaves and how horrible

992
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:39.960
yea half a humanity is, Like
I forget that town that's by the ocean

993
01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:46.760
that has some of those that my
maid turned into stone and Daddy won't buy

994
01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:54.079
me enough one and then you're like, holy craft, that's a person like

995
01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:57.760
wow, or the dad that wants
you to go save his son and then

996
01:08:57.800 --> 01:08:59.760
when you do, he's like,
no, you were supposed to die for

997
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.560
their table. It's like, oh
man, some of these people are just

998
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:05.880
horrible. No. And then just
the way that they like insult you,

999
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:11.199
it's just like my god, wow, they do not. And then people

1000
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:14.079
complain that they wanted, you know, people of color to be in those

1001
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:17.920
positions. I mean, what would
you be thinking right now if that was

1002
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:24.079
that and you're hearing that and then
you're seeing that, like I think that

1003
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:26.760
would hit you more, but not
in a good way, you know.

1004
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:30.159
So we had a whole area just
middle Eastern people. That's all the people

1005
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:42.399
we need with with the cliche music
of like yeah, yeah, I mean

1006
01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:46.720
it doesn't help that they all have
like turbans and like, yeah, Middle

1007
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:51.920
Eastern. I mean, I guess
that's the closest to them geographically, So

1008
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:58.319
maybe, But I feel like if
you play through most of the psy quests,

1009
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:01.800
they do a really good I was
explaining the stuff with the bears and

1010
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:05.840
and all of that, Like I
feel like that kind of gets lost if

1011
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:12.039
you don't do the psy quest,
like, because yeah, that is difference

1012
01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:15.439
of when you're Clive talking to people
in the first half of the game versus

1013
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:17.159
the second half of the game,
because they all like you're a Bearer in

1014
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:20.880
the first half and the second half
they don't. Yeah, I'm just gonna

1015
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:28.239
just cover that up, skelp my
face off for a second. They still

1016
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.000
acknowledge it, but now it's like, Okay, you're sid. So it's

1017
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:42.119
sort of like yeah, but like
seeing the way that they like that one,

1018
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:45.119
well it's a main quest, but
like you see more of it too

1019
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:48.439
when you do the psych quest,
of like the way they die and like

1020
01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:51.760
what they have to go through and
all that. Just because they were born

1021
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:58.359
with the Crystal Magical Hours. Yeah, it's like wow, it really gives

1022
01:10:58.399 --> 01:11:02.720
you a unique look on like Okay, this is like this is kind of

1023
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:08.279
hitting you there. Like they really
do a good job of having those moments

1024
01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:11.279
with with that where it's like,
oh, this is a dark fantasy and

1025
01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:14.960
this is getting real dark, like
you know. And then there's like the

1026
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:17.640
echoes of Fall Fantasy seven in there
too, where like they have the crystal

1027
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:20.720
shards and they kind of use them
kind of like material almost where like you

1028
01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:26.159
just make magic. But then also
like you're just like it's also draining you

1029
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:30.039
know, the blight and all that
is like the source of like the Eighth

1030
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:31.399
or whatever they call it. It's
like a point to like the Mother Crystal.

1031
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:38.239
So it's like you're bombing like these
like Maco Reactor crystal things like throughout

1032
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:40.359
the entire game. And I'm like
like there's like a there's a lot of

1033
01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:44.079
shades of like fan Fasy seven in
there. Yeah, a lot of cloud

1034
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.159
could turn into you know, a
giant if free to go destroy the castle

1035
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:54.279
planting bombs. Dude, isn't there
a point where Ultima literally has one wing?

1036
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:57.920
Right? Yeah? The big wing
pops out on one show. I'm

1037
01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:03.520
like, yep, it definitely has
a lot of love letter sent callbacks to

1038
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:06.920
Final Fantasies. That was another thing
I was gonna bring up. I don't

1039
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:11.279
know how you can say this is
not a Final Fantasy game. There are

1040
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:15.000
more references in this game to other
Final Fantasies that I can never remember any

1041
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.239
other Final Fantasies having. I mean, most of the game is about freaking

1042
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.880
crystals and summons. I mean,
how do you get more Final Fantasy than

1043
01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:27.079
that? Like the fact that people
are still mad that fin Fassy sixteen is

1044
01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:30.960
not a turn based rpg. We
haven't had one in like twenty years.

1045
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:35.479
Yeah, ten was the last one
that was turn based, and that was

1046
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:42.039
a long thirteen Max. But that's
because of like a mixture of like ATB

1047
01:12:42.279 --> 01:12:45.920
and Okay, that's fair. Yeah, and I try to block thirteen thirteen.

1048
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:48.960
Thirteen was trying to do too much
with its battle system, and I

1049
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:54.000
made a lot of people not like
it. Yeah, well, not to

1050
01:12:54.079 --> 01:13:00.840
mention, there's my favorite. Final
Fantasies has the best music in the series

1051
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:03.920
of my opinion. The problem with
thirteen is there's so much time where you

1052
01:13:04.039 --> 01:13:08.600
don't actually get to fully explore with
the bottlesystem can be be because they split

1053
01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:12.079
up the party to wait to wait
till Grand Paul until you can explore.

1054
01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:15.600
But that's like on chapter ten of
thirteen. Yeah, so you have nine

1055
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:20.079
chapters where everyone's just like it's just
a hallway sent me a later every final

1056
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:27.119
fantasies A hallways sent me a later
game. The reason I don't like thirteen,

1057
01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:30.960
I don't care about the Hallway.
I just never got into any of

1058
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.600
those characters. But did you,
guys ever feel like you wish the game

1059
01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:38.760
was open world or did you like
the open zone out with how slow they

1060
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:44.680
make you walk? Right? Okay, that makes it the way you don't

1061
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:47.399
do that with a few exceptions,
like where the game blocks you from going

1062
01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:50.439
to back to other places. I
do like how you are free to kind

1063
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:54.720
of just like go back into this
place for whatever reason. I did like

1064
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:58.439
that. I did like how it's
like compartmentalized, like that way where you

1065
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:02.079
know these different sections and then like
you can trigger new like um, not

1066
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:04.319
safe points, I guess, but
yeah, I guess knew, like little

1067
01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:08.439
spots like once you travel and now
you'll find another one of those like tower

1068
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:11.920
the White tower thingies or whatever.
I did like, I thought it was

1069
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:15.920
nice. It was a nice kind
of compromise of you know, singular like

1070
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:18.319
here's your main quest, but also
like go ahead and explore a round.

1071
01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:21.560
That's why I didn't care that it
was open zone or open world. I'm

1072
01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:27.479
fast traveling wherever I need to go
anyway, so if it's connected by roadways

1073
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.439
or just one giant open world,
I don't care. I'm skipping to where

1074
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:34.479
I need to get. Transverse trasversal
was good, Like I mean, it's

1075
01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:38.520
not gonna be like a Spider Man
level of I just want to be Spider

1076
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:42.079
Man and go somewhere. I don't
think they could have done it like even

1077
01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:45.720
in like Final Tannasee fifteen, when
you basically had to do everything via the

1078
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:50.000
car. It wasn't that actually wound
up not being fun after a while.

1079
01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:54.119
Yeah, I mean, yeah,
it gave me moments where I could listen

1080
01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:58.640
to Final Fantasy thirteen music. But
I feel like they made the world bigger

1081
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:03.000
on purpose to stret out have the
same like three lines of dialogue every five

1082
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:10.720
seconds exactly. I think they by
the end when you do all like the

1083
01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:14.359
cyclists, there's a lot of the
world that like stretches out where when you

1084
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:18.159
do the little mini map, a
lot of it can be connected just connected

1085
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:24.319
to and you can traverse that without
having to do the you know, fast

1086
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:28.079
travel or whatever you want to.
So like it does end up feeling like

1087
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.640
these zones keep getting bigger and bigger
than more you do explore. So,

1088
01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:35.119
like Andrew said, I think they
did a great compromise in that. And

1089
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:40.359
also like there's there's so many damn
open world games now, Like not every

1090
01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:44.119
game needs to be open world.
That's just how many check mark checkpoints there

1091
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:47.479
would be if this was open world. Yeah, I think there'd be way

1092
01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:55.239
more question marks, like the fifty
of them. Um, is there anything

1093
01:15:55.439 --> 01:16:00.359
from the story that you guys want
to touch on or like? Also,

1094
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:02.560
there's one kind of thing that I
wish they did a little bit differently,

1095
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:06.960
and that would be introducing Joshua as
alive a little later on in the story.

1096
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.680
They introduce you to Joshua being alive
like almost immediately after you go into

1097
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.760
the time Skoo, and it's just
kind of like cool, Like it's kind

1098
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:17.720
of a shocker, but then you
don't like even see him at all until

1099
01:16:17.800 --> 01:16:20.159
he shows up again, and then
you're like oh wait, he's back.

1100
01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:26.000
I forgot. Yeah. I didn't
wish that they showed him a little later

1101
01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:28.960
so that that little like part didn't
just jump at you, or if like

1102
01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:31.600
even that jump itself could have been
when they introduced him as being alive,

1103
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:36.319
because it kind of just felt like
almost unnecessary because I kept trying to imagine

1104
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:39.359
when he's going to be showing up, like is this going to be important?

1105
01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:41.039
Is this going to be important?
Is this going to be important?

1106
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:45.640
For like hours on end until he
finally shows up again. I did like

1107
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.279
forever the air of mystery they kind
of give Joshua when you do see him

1108
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:51.399
again for the first time after so
much time has passed, and he kind

1109
01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:57.319
of has like like this like organization, thirteen thing going on and everything,

1110
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:01.359
but then like he also has like
it makes sense because so much like I

1111
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:04.119
don't know thirteen or whatever years that
passed, but like he has like this

1112
01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:09.319
mastery of like as the Phoenix,
like he's like wait, like all mystical

1113
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:11.960
and crap, like okay, this
is cool. Like he's like he was

1114
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:15.239
like a little whimpy little kid and
now like like I'm grown a grown as

1115
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:20.119
man kind in prisons. Ultimately,
in his chest, Like whoa, Like

1116
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:25.960
this guy's been he's been hitting the
books since last time. Yeah, Like

1117
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:30.720
that moment with Clive is actually like
really cool because like shows that he's not

1118
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:34.079
this weak kid that he's you know, oh, I'm gonna do something to

1119
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:39.479
protect my brother now, but now
I gotta you know, he this leads

1120
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:44.000
to his even worse sickness than he
gets later on. Yeah, you know

1121
01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:45.399
what it reminds me of, actually, Scott, it reminds me of how

1122
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:50.039
Mickey is so elusive throughout Kingdom Hearts
too. We're like he's you're always just

1123
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:53.960
missing him. We're like, you
know, no, because look like remember

1124
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:55.880
when they go to uh, I
don't know what the town is called,

1125
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.359
but's the sad place, the sands, the desert town, and like he

1126
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:01.520
like leaves through the window, he
goes out through the second floor window,

1127
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:05.840
and then like Clive just barely misses
him. Ye, always just like a

1128
01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:10.800
little bit further behind. And like
this feels like it feels like when you're

1129
01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:13.079
when you see Mickey in the background
Kendo Mars two, where he's kind of

1130
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:16.479
you know, just always somewhere.
Yeah, or even like the beginning moments

1131
01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:23.880
of when Soros trying to find uh
goofy and Donald the kingom hearts one like

1132
01:18:24.039 --> 01:18:26.479
districts like always over here, he's
over here. It's over here, he's

1133
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:30.319
over here, he's over here,
until they literally fall atop with each other

1134
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:35.880
and yeah, yeah, I mean
anything else for you guys that you felt

1135
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:41.680
like we really should touch on?
Do you think what do you think?

1136
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:45.760
DLG couldn't even be well, I
guess before that, like did you guys

1137
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:55.680
like the end, do you like
when like when Joshua slaps Clive or actually,

1138
01:18:55.800 --> 01:19:02.840
yeah, yeah, wanted to fight
with you. Yeah. I like

1139
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.960
how he's like he's like it's for
like it's it's for the better good or

1140
01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:09.199
whatever, and he's like like,
man, you better be right about this,

1141
01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:12.760
Like yeah, I do like though, like because I kind of thought

1142
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:14.640
I kind of felt that too,
where I'm like, damn, like you're

1143
01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:16.079
taking away her powers, like I
know, for I know, for Jill,

1144
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:18.920
she just she's more as a curse
than as a blessing kind of thing.

1145
01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:23.399
Like she's like there's like trauma associated
with it. But I just thought

1146
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:26.560
like like damn, like you're really
taking away the one thing that makes her

1147
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:30.000
very useful as a party member,
like and claiming it for yourself. So

1148
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:30.880
then when Joshua was like, like
you took you right, He's yeah,

1149
01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:34.159
he's just like just like Deck someone
like like thank you, Joshua, thank

1150
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:39.359
you. Yeah. I always felt
like he also did it because I think

1151
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:42.920
he kind of also had a thing
for Jill. But you know, I

1152
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:45.399
mean they all three of them grew
up together. Yeah, I think about

1153
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:49.520
anything about that way. Maybe no
I did. I did like that as

1154
01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:55.560
well, Like, and then the
interesting thing of like they can still use

1155
01:19:55.640 --> 01:20:00.560
their powers even after Clive takes them. Yeah, apparently I get into like

1156
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:06.119
emotional moments, their powers can still
Yeah. Yeah, like Benedicta, it

1157
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:13.319
literally can still basically she still has
the icon inside her, right, I

1158
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:15.680
guess I don't know what does are
each time? Right? Each time like

1159
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:20.119
oh you've taken a fragmin or similar
or something right like not the whole thing,

1160
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:25.319
you're taking like a part a bit. Yeah, So what did you

1161
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:28.960
What did y'all think about the ending? Do you feel like this is definitive

1162
01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:32.000
right, like Clive's dead, Like
there's not gonna be a Clive came back.

1163
01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:36.880
I hope he does say it?
Would they do stick with the death

1164
01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:41.039
but there's also I mean, if
you look at like Twitter, there's so

1165
01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:44.079
many random crep theories going on him. How that like the death is super

1166
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:47.600
vague or he won't actually be dead
and if they did this, they're just

1167
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:54.560
pulling another Final Fantasy fifteen. Yeah, I mean it seems rather clear that

1168
01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:59.159
he does he uses the last bit
of his life to save Joshua or which

1169
01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:04.439
is how he writes the book or
whatever, and so yeah, I just

1170
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:10.159
I feel like that kind of tells
you he's he's gone. You did y'all

1171
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.800
like that decision? Did you feel
like he needed to live? Or I

1172
01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:15.880
mean I don't think it. I
think at least Dion should have had something

1173
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:20.239
to do at the end. But
yeah, yeah, that would be one

1174
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:24.600
of the criticisms I have at the
ending is that Dion, Joshua, and

1175
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:28.960
Clive all fight, but Dion's the
only one who doesn't get a moment right

1176
01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:32.199
well, he gets that moment where
he like kind of says, this is

1177
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:36.600
my last one to kind of give
you all that that last bit that you

1178
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:42.479
need to get ready or you know, But yeah, he doesn't have this

1179
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:46.520
like one oh my god, remember
me kind He just falls, right,

1180
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:49.800
he just falls in like, yeah, if we don't see a body,

1181
01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:58.920
and I mean Clive turned to stone, but somebody can find a soft potion

1182
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:04.319
and Ben fix probably this, right, Like it's it's like the whole Ariosphoenix

1183
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:10.800
down thing, right, So yeah, what what do you guys think?

1184
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:13.880
You know? Because there's multiple theories? Right, there's the talk of the

1185
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:20.680
one summon that's not in this game. Did they make allusions to Leviathan the

1186
01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:27.239
Loss or whatever? Um? Is
it gonna just be prequel stuff? I

1187
01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:29.479
mean, yeah, I wasntly the
only way you could have Leviathan was go

1188
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:32.359
do a prequel stuff and maybe the
start of the blight, But then I

1189
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:35.760
don't know how you would even wrap
that up. But yeah, I don't

1190
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:39.920
know. I don't think I'm kind
of with Square. I don't know if

1191
01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:42.479
this really needs DALC. Yeah,
I think it was kind of an open

1192
01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:47.199
and shut game, and I wouldn't
to have one with Leviathan. Yeah,

1193
01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:51.319
but I get that, But I
think what if I would want from deals?

1194
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:55.600
He would probably be similar to how
Final Fantasy fifteen did. It's DLC,

1195
01:22:56.079 --> 01:23:00.239
where I had different episodes showing what
characters were doing in between moments where

1196
01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:03.560
we weren't there with them that be
like we had Jills moments or SIDS moments

1197
01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:09.479
or even Gabs moments where they're doing
stuff where episode Joshua would be cool.

1198
01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:13.680
Yeah, like what was Joshua doing
for those twenty years? Because yeah,

1199
01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:18.079
yeah, like what's Jill's like?
We get the actual backstory with Jill,

1200
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:24.720
what happened with that priest or whatever
the heck and all that stuff like that

1201
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:28.399
would be interesting. Just please guarantee
me that we're actually gonna get to completion.

1202
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:30.920
Don't get to like three forts the
way through and then go, oh

1203
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:35.079
it's canceled, not getting the rest
of it. I mean, the thing

1204
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:38.720
that suthing about pomp Has fifteen was
that that's how they were going to tell

1205
01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:42.000
you the whole story, whereas at
least this game you get the whole story.

1206
01:23:42.079 --> 01:23:47.319
This Yeah, don't have to worry
about needing it, but I wouldn't

1207
01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:53.640
say I would not want it.
Yeah, we don't have anybody who disappears

1208
01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:58.920
and comes back blind or something.
Yeah, we have moment. Do you

1209
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:02.079
have anything like calm that wise that
you'd want to see them? I guess

1210
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:08.920
do in the DLC maybe differently effects
status weaknesses are PG elements or just get

1211
01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:12.560
rid of all of them. Yeah, well, if they did do a

1212
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.439
le viling thing one, that would
be like a whole other set of ability.

1213
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:20.119
So yeah, yeah, that would
be interesting. I would think that

1214
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it would have to be more than
just Leviathan, unless they're just gonna do

1215
01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:26.920
that so that you can use Leviathan
powers in the main game, But that

1216
01:24:27.079 --> 01:24:30.760
would kind of seem kind of arbitrary
at that point. Like, yeah,

1217
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:34.119
I think if they're really gonna do
it, it's gonna be something so almost

1218
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:41.279
like an expansion. It's not gonna
be yeah, I mean, I don't

1219
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know, because the main character dies, right, so that wah. Yeah,

1220
01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:49.800
But they could do something like um
like which we call it, like

1221
01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:54.760
some of those games that add like
like we have something actually to do right

1222
01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:56.920
before the game tells you like this
is the point of no return. It

1223
01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:00.159
could be something like like elder Ring
had, like the expansion word it's like

1224
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:01.760
here's an arena kind of thing.
It could even just be like a call

1225
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:06.159
of sem thing or like a boss
rush or like something trivial like that.

1226
01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:10.039
I don't know. Yeah, it
reminds like the DLC of Mass Effect three

1227
01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:14.680
of that happens like at the Citadel
and stuff. That's right before the ending

1228
01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:18.279
of the actual game. Because yeah, that game. That's another controversial topic.

1229
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:27.239
Yeah, that game's a whole another
Can we don't mean that spoiler cast

1230
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:34.960
today? Um? Yeah, it's
anything that like you guys would want.

1231
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:40.159
So there's nothing in the cont Like, I don't think they're going to be

1232
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:44.600
adding in RPG. It's possible.
I guess that they they could add that

1233
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:46.920
stuff in, but I don't know. I feel like that would then lead

1234
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.159
to people being like, why can't
we just have this of the whole game?

1235
01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:54.479
Yeah, you know, it's like
a lot of work. I think.

1236
01:25:55.039 --> 01:26:00.039
Do you think there's a possibility for
them to do more with Fantasy sixteen

1237
01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:08.439
like another game or I don't know
if they have enough for like sixteen Dash

1238
01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:12.199
two? No, I don't think
No. I don't think so either.

1239
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:18.760
I'm over the dashes her. I
do want to see this combat system used

1240
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:23.159
again, so I do too.
This was a really fun combat system.

1241
01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:28.800
I'd definitely like to see it mastered
and basically more evolved. So where do

1242
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:31.279
you think we wind up with A
Well, I don't know. We can't

1243
01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:36.039
really tell because it's always different,
But Final Fantasy eighteen is gonna be Yoshida's

1244
01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:46.039
MMO with action RPG elements rather than
he can make magic matter again. Yeah.

1245
01:26:46.119 --> 01:26:49.239
Yeah, magic was like a gun
in this game. It's like,

1246
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:54.800
yeah, there for you. Because
you can't get close to the person,

1247
01:26:54.880 --> 01:27:00.680
you just shoot him. Yeah,
it did work well. Any any I

1248
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:03.319
guess any lasting things you want to
say about sixteen, Like where do you

1249
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:09.079
think sixteen is gonna Let's let's go
forward. I guess a little bit like

1250
01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:13.239
by the time seventeen is coming out, do you think we're still gonna think

1251
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:17.960
this fondly of sixteen? Or probably
too distracted by hopefully part two? In

1252
01:27:18.039 --> 01:27:23.800
Part three of Final Fantasy seven remake, I totally forget the sixteen never existed

1253
01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:28.239
out. I feel like, damn. I feel like every Final Fantasy game

1254
01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:30.800
goes through that period where it's like
for some reason, like it's like popular

1255
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:33.399
to hate on, Like I feel
like every one of them goes through that.

1256
01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:36.520
I feel like this one will probably
will have it's gonna be the people

1257
01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:41.119
who are very upset about it not
being like Final Fantasy enough. I think

1258
01:27:41.279 --> 01:27:44.359
we're gonna be like the louder,
loudest detractors from in the future. But

1259
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:47.279
like it's hard to know because it's
just so fresh. But I think,

1260
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:51.319
like for myself, like I's in
my top five top six series, So

1261
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:56.600
I think it's gonna be regarded as
like the one with the best voice actor,

1262
01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:59.239
the one with yeah it's the best, like hey for us, Ben

1263
01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:01.760
Star, there you go. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be

1264
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.640
like I think many people's like favorites
going forward. And I don't know if

1265
01:28:04.840 --> 01:28:08.600
it's just because of the big moments
or I mean, there's parts of the

1266
01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:13.600
story that we'll stick with me.
But I will remember a lot of different

1267
01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:17.039
things that happened in sixteen for years
to come. And I can't tell you

1268
01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:21.359
three things that happened in Found Fantasy
fifteen. And when I played Foul Fantasy

1269
01:28:21.399 --> 01:28:27.439
fifteen, I enjoyed it, but
I can't remember anything from it. And

1270
01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:32.159
partially maybe I'm just getting goddamn old
and I'm forgetting everything. But with sixteen,

1271
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.520
at least they have the moments that
they're gonna kind of stick with you.

1272
01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:38.239
Fifteen it was just kind of an
experience and it was just I will

1273
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:41.720
say one thing everyone should at least
remember fifteen is the Lefiathan fight. I

1274
01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:45.079
was about to say that I was
about to say that that is in Fight

1275
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:50.319
Leathan fight and in the Big Beheman
fight, they all got trumped by sixteen

1276
01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:55.680
sixteen fights, I do agree are
better the icon versus icons. Yeah,

1277
01:28:56.119 --> 01:29:00.600
jus yet, but I will say
Leliathan fight was something that always stuck with

1278
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:03.399
meybe of just like the scenery and
the set pieces and everything with Final Fantasy

1279
01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:08.079
fifteen, and I still think it's
probably the best fight of that game.

1280
01:29:09.039 --> 01:29:11.319
I can't remember the name, but
that city you go to, like with

1281
01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:16.600
the waterfalls and everything, yeah,
oh yes, yeah, yeah, I

1282
01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:20.000
don't remember the name, and I
know I think that says a lot that

1283
01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:30.560
we don't remember the name. I
think for me one of the lasting impressions

1284
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:34.000
of this game is I think it's
doing exactly what they wanted to do.

1285
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:39.560
I have at least four friends that
do not play Final Fantasy games at all

1286
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:44.880
that are playing this game right now
and enjoying it, and I think that

1287
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:47.399
that will be one of the things
that people will think about what this game

1288
01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:51.960
is. This could be the game
that gets so many people into Final Fantasy

1289
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:58.640
as a series, because it is
so different from the other games what it's

1290
01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:00.880
doing. That for our friend Tucker, who he was like all in now,

1291
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.960
He's all yeah, he's a pill. Now it's gonna do this,

1292
01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:09.960
and then the seventeen will come out
and it will master all this stuff and

1293
01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:13.000
the story will go even crazier,
and then eighteen will go you know what.

1294
01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:15.640
We want to go back to our
roots, go back to turn based

1295
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.520
RP. Like fin Fantasy nine was
like, we're going back to like our

1296
01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:23.319
nes s nes Days. We're going
back to the at b gage, We're

1297
01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:27.439
going back to fantasy. Screw the
sci fi nonsense. Well, this one

1298
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:30.880
want to do that, Like it's
like medieval right, It's like not really,

1299
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:34.600
Yeah, yeah, we kind of
did that here. Yeah, you

1300
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:39.119
went back to to those days.
She's a good experience, that's for sure.

1301
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:45.039
Yeah. I mean so like,
hopefully if you're listening to this you

1302
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:48.319
enjoyed. I mean, if you
if you're hate watching I don't know,

1303
01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:55.119
hey watching every spoiler cast about five
Fantasy sixteen, good job with your life.

1304
01:30:55.520 --> 01:31:00.119
Yeah really, but hopefully you've enjoyed
this game. Like, do you

1305
01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:04.000
guys think this will be I guess
just looking at this year in general,

1306
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:08.159
it's almoudy have been a ridiculous year. Do you think this will be like

1307
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:12.720
a game still in the Game of
the Year conversation nominee, A nominee for

1308
01:31:12.800 --> 01:31:15.760
sure. I don't think I don't
think it will be as much of a

1309
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:17.880
contender. Yeah, yeah, I
think that's not because the Final Fantasy sixteen

1310
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:24.239
itself, as much as this year
is just absolutely stacked. Yeah, and

1311
01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:27.039
we're not even done with the year
yet. We're halfway through the year.

1312
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:31.920
Yeah, we're not. We just
now Starfield Spider Man, and we already

1313
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:35.600
have games that could probably be better
than all of them, or Super Mario,

1314
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:43.039
Wonder, Balder's Gay three Year.
You know, there's like a bunch

1315
01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:47.520
of of games that are still coming. I feel bad for you, yeah

1316
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:53.399
really, um, but yeah,
you're gonna talking about all these games.

1317
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:59.079
I'm just ready for moving out too. There you go. If you want,

1318
01:31:59.720 --> 01:32:02.359
I really need to get back into
streaming. You need to watch me

1319
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:09.920
and my kids play that game and
the amount of yelling. You would think

1320
01:32:09.960 --> 01:32:15.000
we need therapy playing this game.
But we love it. That's me,

1321
01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:17.319
that's all. It's like unpacking,
right, but like in reverse. Right,

1322
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:24.000
boy, it's like overcooked, but
you're moving instead of ye yeah,

1323
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:29.000
you're you're throwing things out windows and
making sure chickens getting a moving van and

1324
01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:33.680
okay, and it feels the levels
later gets so insane. It's great.

1325
01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:39.560
Hopefully they fixed against it feels a
little bit too floaty for me compared to

1326
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:45.960
like Overcooked, Like sometimes I'm just
like moving around and the thing goes everywhere

1327
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:47.960
and it's like, what the hell
is? Kind of the point is the

1328
01:32:48.039 --> 01:32:53.840
game is there to piss you off. That's me and playing Overcooked with my

1329
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:58.079
my daughter and my mom that don't
play console games. That less. I

1330
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:03.760
was me yelling like yo put it. But yes, regardless of all that

1331
01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:10.199
stuff, Hopefully enjoy our spoilercast today. If you did. There was a

1332
01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:14.520
regular stof videogamest to the Max each
week. Sometimes we have guests like all

1333
01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:19.079
of these guys here. Hopefully we
can add them all again at some points

1334
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:24.439
and have new guests as well.
Those subscribe Video Games to the Max on

1335
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:29.960
audio podcasts wherever those are at on
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1336
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:33.159
us, and then other things as
well, including the ridless folks that always

1337
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:40.359
do tremendous video movie reviews. They've
done Barbie already, that did Oppenheimer's,

1338
01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:45.720
so you're looking for reviews for those
and yeah, like, hopefully you enjoy

1339
01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:49.279
Finey sixteen and you can let us
know your thoughts in the comments of wherever

1340
01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:55.600
you watch this or listen to it
later and yeah, this is gonna be

1341
01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:59.000
Uh, there's more stuff coming throughout
the year, so maybe we'll have another

1342
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:04.319
spoilercast for another game that you enjoy. So until then, still that everybody bite