WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:06.000 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. 2 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:12.000 I Am six forty This Later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the 3 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:16.879 iHeartRadio app. Happy Monday, Jackie Ray. As we go beyond the box 4 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:20.559 score? How you doing this evening, I'm doing good. I'm excited about 5 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:24.600 this upcoming week. I'm excited, but probably not for the same reasons that 6 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:29.039 you are. The NBA Draft is upon us. There are all sorts of 7 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:33.759 discussions about who will be taken at number one. We know the Atlanta Hawks 8 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:39.359 came out of nowhere to win the draft lottery, but that's going inside basketball. 9 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:42.479 We're going beyond the box score. Let's look at some of these other 10 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:48.560 issues surrounding the draft, and we had covered how Lebron James's son, Lebron 11 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:52.799 James Junior, had declared for the draft, which was weird to me. 12 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.439 I get nepotism, but it's really weird when you have a player who played 13 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:00.560 one year at USC barely played. It's four point eight points, two point 14 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:06.719 eight rebounds, two point one assists. In no world is that a resume 15 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:12.280 to be a lottery pick or even a draftee. In the NBA. Am 16 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:17.359 I missing something here? It's not even a resume to be a starter the 17 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:22.200 following season at USC. So it's troubling that this is what's happening, and 18 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:26.120 it's exactly what you said. I am a diehard Lebron James fan. I 19 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:30.959 also tell people I don't mind the patriarchy system in theory. If I had 20 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.359 children, I definitely would want to help my children do whatever they want to 21 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:37.480 do, especially if I have a leg up in that situation. But this 22 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:42.640 is where that system becomes a problem because now what's happening is somebody who's unfortunately, 23 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:46.439 and I love Brownnie, I hate saying this, but someone who's not 24 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:51.799 qualified is getting a look that someone who is qualified will not, simply because 25 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:53.159 of who his father is. Because that's the only way you can look at 26 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:56.920 it. I know a lot of people can say, well, there's no 27 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.840 other way you can look at it. There's nothing about his level of play 28 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:04.680 we've seen thus far says he's ready for any type of position in the NBA, 29 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.520 and that's including the G League. So this is a problematic situation for 30 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:12.159 sure. And this is what some people who may not be familiar with sports 31 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.599 may understand, when you are drafted, there is a rookie pay scale. 32 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:23.000 Not only would he be taking the spot of someone obviously and arguably more deserving, 33 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:28.120 you're taking that money slot. There's nothing preventing a team from signing Bronni 34 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.560 James as a free agent and then have him just signed with the team on 35 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:35.479 a ten day contract or a two way player contract. There are a lot 36 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:39.719 of options, but this just seems it feels dirty on some level because no 37 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:45.080 one would ever give this guy a look, Bronnie James if Lebron James wasn't 38 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.719 his father, and it's a package deal. Lebron James wants to play with 39 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:53.319 his son. Lebron James presently only plays for the Lakers, so this is 40 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:57.680 only an issue which the Lakers have to work out. Correct right, and 41 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:01.080 this is ESPN Adrian Rolsion. Now, he said that Lebron James and Rich 42 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.520 Paul had said they don't want Lebroni to play. They don't want Bronnie to 43 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.039 play in the league because they know he's not ready. They wanted a team 44 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:12.240 to develop him. But to your point, that development still means a pay 45 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.599 slot, because if you're talking like when you're talking to development. You're talking 46 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:19.719 about the G League, and I'm telling you right now that Lebron James Junior 47 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.599 is not ready for that. And I would love to sit down with Lebron 48 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:27.439 and just pick his brain as to why he's pushing forward with this, because 49 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:30.560 he can't throw his hands in the air and say, oh, this isn't 50 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:32.319 me, this is the Lakers that are interested in him, or this is 51 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:35.960 this other team. He can't say that because we're all going to know that's 52 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:38.639 not the case. And when you talk about Lebron James and his legacy, 53 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:43.400 he's very cognizant of his legacy at all times. And I would think that 54 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.400 he would want to do the right thing, not only for Bronnie because this 55 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:51.000 isn't the right thing for Bronni, but also for the league. And it 56 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.560 just makes everything look bad as far as what they're doing right now. And 57 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:57.439 I'm just hoping that this is one of those things that it's a lot to 58 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.199 do about nothing and it fizzles out and Bronni somehow says, hey, I'm 59 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:03.319 going to stay in college, and then we can just say that's probably the 60 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.560 forces that be that I've made him say that. But this is just a 61 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:11.080 little too much for me. If I understand this correctly, Lebron James has 62 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:15.639 two options. He can opt out of his final year and then see what 63 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:20.800 the market will offer for him, and by extension, Lebron James Junior see 64 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:25.240 what that's out there for him, or the Lakers can pony up and pay 65 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:30.000 him ungodly sums of money to stay or extend his contract. And that also 66 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.759 probably would have to do with an implied negotiation of Lebron James Junior. If 67 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:40.439 you are the Lakers, do you keep Lebron James at this point in his 68 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:44.759 career where he'll be forty years old next season. I acknowledge that he's playing 69 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.879 at a high level, but you'd have to commit a lot of money for 70 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:51.600 him. Well, the Lakers back themselves in this corner, and there's no 71 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:56.720 team in the league that's going to pick up this option was twenty five million 72 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:00.959 dollar option when they know Father Time is undefeated. Nobody going to do that. 73 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.720 So the Lakers are backed themselves in this corner, and I think they 74 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:08.120 kind of have to stick with them because but they can't put their foot down 75 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:11.120 and say, hey, we know you put we put this option in your 76 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.319 contract that's great, we'll eat it, but we're not going to eat Bronny 77 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.279 too. Well. If I'm Genie Buss, this is where my legacy. 78 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:23.000 Talking about legacies, her legacy is on the line. Here. We remember 79 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:27.680 how they handled the Kobe Bryant exit the Lakers organization. I know that wasn't 80 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:32.519 necessarily her fault, but overpaying as a thank you to Kobe, not for 81 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:38.360 the then present day Kobe and what he could do, how that hampered and 82 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.439 hindered the franchise for a good decade. I would say, how we're at 83 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:46.040 that same crossroads where if you overpay for Lebron James, not only are you 84 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:51.079 not going to win now, you preclude any chance later, right, which 85 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.959 is again this is so this pains me to say it because I'm such a 86 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:59.439 diehard Lebron James fan. But even when they put this option in his contract, 87 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.519 this was another hashmark for me. And who is doing what over there? 88 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:06.360 Who is father time again? Is undefeated? And yes, Lebron is 89 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:11.480 still playing at a high level, but he's not He's not twenty sixteen Lebron. 90 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.519 He's not the Lebron that can carry a team on his back. He 91 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.920 needs solid help and I'm not even sure that the Lakers organization as a whole 92 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:21.879 right now can make the proper decisions to put around him, because you can't 93 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:26.360 get rid of Ad right now, and AD is winded in press conferences. 94 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:30.040 So I don't understand really what their plan of attack is. They back themselves 95 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.319 into a terrible corner. And if they keep Lebron with this twenty five million 96 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:38.279 dollar option, and then now you got BRONI sitting on a roster knowing he's 97 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.839 not going to develop anytime soon, and I would dare say, based on 98 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:44.279 what we've seen, I don't think he's ever going to get to the level 99 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.560 of play as say at Bryce's. So what you're really doing is just trying 100 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.000 to hope you hang on to that Lebron James legacy until Bryce is ready. 101 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:56.160 That's ridiculous. And there's something else we didn't talk about. Minnesota is going 102 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:59.759 to be better with Anthony Edwards, who's only twenty two years old. Send 103 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:02.759 Into is going to be better. Denver is still going to be Denver as 104 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.720 their two stars are in their prime. We can run the list of Oklahoma 105 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:11.279 City with Shaye, you'll just Alexander, I can name you seven or eight 106 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.319 teams, which you are going to be better next year than this year from 107 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:17.480 a business standpoint, because we don't need to go into all the x's and 108 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:21.399 o's. From a business standpoint, it would seem that the Lakers should cut 109 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:26.240 bait because they are not going to be better next year. They can hold 110 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:29.680 on to Lebron James is going to be a year older and Anthony Davis is 111 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:31.839 going to be a year older. Probably not going to be more reliable from 112 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:36.120 an availability standpoint, but they're not going to be a better team. The 113 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.199 problem is, and I've said this before and people get malded I say it, 114 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.639 but I'm gonna say it again. I think in order to cut bait 115 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.680 in this situation, you have to admit that you made the wrong decision. 116 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:49.399 And I don't think the leadership that is in place with the Lakers is willing 117 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:53.439 to admit that. And that always means you're just going to stay the course. 118 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.439 And I'll never forget when Jeanie, you know, she tweeted a couple 119 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:00.319 of years ago after the passing of the late great Kobe Bryant that she missed 120 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:03.680 him telling her what to do. And I think that's a problem. I 121 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.439 think She relies heavily on the stars and them saying what they want and what 122 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.600 they need, and she acts accordingly, and that's problematic. The Lakers have, 123 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.160 to your point, painted themselves in this corner, and I don't know 124 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:16.759 if they'll be able to get out of it anytime soon. We got to 125 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:18.759 go to a commercial break. On the other side, I want to talk 126 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:24.319 about Glenn Big Baby Davis, who's on his way to prison, federal prison. 127 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.959 We'll tell you why just a moment. You're listening to later with Moe 128 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.519 Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. We're going Beyond the box Score 129 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:37.759 still with Jackie Ray. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Former NBA 130 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.320 forward Glenn Big Baby Davis, he did spend some time with the Clippers. 131 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.240 He was recently sentenced by a federal judge last Thursday to forty months in prison 132 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:52.480 plus three years supervised release for his November twenty twenty three conviction in an alleged 133 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:58.080 scheme to defraud the league's healthcare benefits plan. It gets worse. Twenty two 134 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.080 people, eighteen of them former players, including Terrence Williams and key On Duley, 135 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.840 another former Clipper, have been sentenced as well, in the case for 136 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:13.759 filing false medical claims with the NBA players Health and Benefit Welfare Plan. Glenn 137 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.840 Davis is only thirty eight, and when I say the sentences only three and 138 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:22.559 a half years, it's not like he's doing life. But I am not 139 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.919 only super disappointed, I'm surprised at how super stupid these guys were. What 140 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.320 did you think about this whole fiasco. Well, when the pandemic hit, 141 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.039 you knew people were going to start trying to figure out schemes. I didn't 142 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.720 have any idea that it would be Glenn baby Davis. And with all due 143 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.559 respects, I've met Glenn baby Davis on several occasions this scheme. When I 144 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:43.240 saw his name in the headline, I said, yep, let it just 145 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:48.799 fit. It is fit personally, I've heard perfectly with who he is, 146 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.559 and even after the sentencing him saying, you know what, this is what's 147 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:54.240 going to stop me from eating burgers and now I can lose weight. Like 148 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:01.600 his comprehension of like the gravity of this situation is, it's just not quite 149 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.320 there. I do agree with some of the trends that I've seen on Twitter. 150 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.720 I do feel like the sentencing is excessive considering Brett Farre allegedly stole the 151 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.919 million dollars from the Mississippi Welfare Fund and he's still playing golf. So I 152 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.000 think that the optics of it kind of says, Okay, well, why 153 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.360 are you hammering down on this specific group of people. But either way, 154 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.200 when you're talking about scheming for money, I would venture to say that most 155 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.840 athletes don't know how to dot every I and cross every T to get away 156 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.480 with something like that. Yeah, and I get the whole unfairness argument. 157 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:39.399 I hate, though, trying to use examples of criminality to make a larger 158 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:45.639 point about the injustice of the justice system. I get that, you know, 159 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:50.240 you make people want to make comparisons between Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein, 160 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.399 right, and you know and R. Kelly, But no criminals say the 161 00:10:54.559 --> 00:11:00.519 unfairness conversation. For someone who's actually not guilty of a crime, don't try 162 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.600 to say, well, R. Kelly got this amount of time, Harvey 163 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.559 Weinstein should get that amount of time. They're all in prison. And I 164 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.240 know Harvey Weinstein had one of his convictions overturn, but his ass is still 165 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.480 in prison. So yeah, I hear that argument. I understand it, 166 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.200 but I think it's misplaced. When we're talking about people who are guilty, 167 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.919 it's not like you can make an argument that they're not guilty. I mean, 168 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:28.080 this disappoints me because you have millionaires, all of them millionaires who wanted 169 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.360 to get over on the system, which could have helped out somebody else who 170 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.879 actually needed it. And to your point, Glenn, big Baby Davis, 171 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:39.679 it hasn't hit home how serious this is. It doesn't take any of this 172 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.120 seriously, which for me says we'll give more time. Yeah, Glenn sees 173 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:48.399 the world differently than anybody I know. I've talked to him several times, 174 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.639 even when we've talked about NBA contracts. You know, he kind of had 175 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:58.240 this mindset that there's nothing the players can do to better their situation. Like 176 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:00.559 he and I have this conversation about healthcare, and I thought it was a 177 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:03.879 fascinating conversation because it was three years ago. So now you fast forward now 178 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.399 four years ago, so now you fast forward and it's an interesting thing. 179 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.480 It's an interesting concept. So my thing is why risk it? And this 180 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:16.919 is always going to be my question for people who take these kinds of risk, 181 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:22.480 because now with any crime. Now you're not just talking about you know, 182 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.919 you're getting what it was, one hundred and sixty four thousand dollars. 183 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.000 What is that going to do in the grand scheme of his life. Maybe 184 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.600 for me one hundred and sixty four thousand dollars right now would be great, 185 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.120 but it still wouldn't be worth me risking my freedom. It still wouldn't work 186 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.679 be worth me risk getting caught, because the repercussions of that is going to 187 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.519 be far greater than that one hundred and sixty four thousand dollars. Well, 188 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:43.440 there are a couple of things. One, these are retired players, so 189 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:50.519 I know that their quality of living, their expenditures is probably decreased. You 190 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.679 know, they're not living as high in the hall as they were ten fifteen 191 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.159 years ago, So I think this is part of that. And also, 192 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:00.600 if you're living in a lifestyle where people have catered to you for most of 193 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.919 your life as a professional athlete, you've been catered to since you were a 194 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.440 child. You've been told that you're special, You've had people circumnavigate the rules 195 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.679 for you. Going back to the old ways of college sports and how people 196 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.960 are giving them a hundred dollars handshakes. They have not had to play with 197 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.000 them within the framework of the rules for quite some time. But again, 198 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.080 you think after a certain point they have to realize they are not as valuable 199 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.039 a commodity anymore. They're not going to be given that amount of grace or 200 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:33.000 privilege anymore. And here we are, And honestly, I'm quite sure there 201 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.960 are others who've been scheming and getting over but these guys are so dumb about 202 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.399 how the way they did it. You know, of course they're going to 203 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.399 get caught. So that's the thing, like, you have to know that 204 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.240 probably not going to get away with this. And to your points, I've 205 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.480 always said that athletes coming into the league, especially athletes that have come from 206 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:56.159 impoverished upbringings, there needs to be somebody dedicated to helping them understand that, 207 00:13:56.200 --> 00:14:01.279 hey, this is a you're now, but this isn't forever. So let's 208 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.360 put things in place. Going back to Lebron, Lebron, if he stopped 209 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.519 playing basketball tomorrow, he's gonna be good forever and ever, becaurever, put 210 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.960 forever and ever. He put things in place to make sure he's good. 211 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.240 But I think a lot of athletes when they get to the league. This 212 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:18.039 is that I'm here, I'm arrived, this is it, and they see 213 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.399 the now and they don't see what's coming ahead, and then the future comes 214 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.320 and then they're left with their pants down and they start making really stupid decisions. 215 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:28.600 Well, good luck to Glenn. I mean, I don't know what 216 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.919 to say. You know, let's see if he loses this way. He 217 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.080 seems excited about it, so let's see. Well he has at least three 218 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.039 and a half years to think about it. Jackie Ray, it's always good 219 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.799 to talk to you. Thank you for coming in. I know you had 220 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.240 a very busy evening, so thank you for fitting us in. Thank you. 221 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:48.480 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. 222 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:54.799 The now late David Sanborn, who I grew up loving to hear and 223 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:00.200 just enamored with all of his talent. It's sad to say he's good on 224 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:05.360 now at the age of seventy eight. He passed yesterday due to complications from 225 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:11.519 prostate cancer. So we are playing music here and there from his illustrious career, 226 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:16.960 six time Grammy winner and so many memories. Didn't know until tonight when 227 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:20.440 I started the show that Stephan had similar memories which were tied to our fathers. 228 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:24.320 That just blew me away. So I was I almost texted you, 229 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.080 but I was like, I know you do a lot of work beforehand. 230 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.159 But when I saw it in the list, I was like, what does 231 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.000 he know about Maputo from Bob James Samore. Yeah, I was like, 232 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:37.240 oh my god, like, all right, I'll play it, We'll see 233 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.879 what happens. And then I discover the news. But that when I talk 234 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.519 about that was my soundtrack on the way home falling asleep. That was one 235 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:46.840 of the songs I would always hear. So that always reminds me of like 236 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:52.679 a night drive going home, end of the night. And yeah, and 237 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:54.240 then he always had to make that distinction every time, like oh yeah, 238 00:15:54.279 --> 00:16:00.679 and Bob James, he made Taxi the the thing, the taxi Maputo off 239 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:04.440 that Oh my goodness, that album wouldn't play with all the songs Chicago Song 240 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:10.759 and others. So it brings back so many memories and you just relish in 241 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:15.200 the days in which music was so much more impactful, so much more powerful. 242 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.720 Absolutely got some other news we have to talk about. You know that 243 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:22.679 I am someone who loves to go on cruises. My wife and I we 244 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.279 try to hit a different continent each time we go on a cruise. We 245 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:30.840 got sidetracked because the family as in not us. They wanted to do a 246 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:34.559 cruise and they hadn't gone on cruisers, so they were cruise virgins for the 247 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:38.799 most part. They wanted to start with a small one locally, got on 248 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:44.799 Carnival, don't recommend. Got on Carnival, get a little three day Mexican 249 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.840 Riviera Cruz, came back. It was fine. But they're just some great 250 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:53.120 things about cruises. It's a good way to sample certain locations that you wouldn't 251 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:57.679 necessarily go to, or you didn't you wouldn't know if you want to go 252 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.960 this, you get to sample this, stay a few hours or a day 253 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:03.799 or so, get a feel for it, and if you want to come 254 00:17:03.839 --> 00:17:07.400 back and fly in and stay longer, you have a point of reference. 255 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:15.680 Well, not all cruises end joyfully. Let me take you to this is 256 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:21.039 a Norwegian Cruise Line ship that was traveling up the coast to the Pacific Northwest, 257 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:26.000 and there was one of the cruise workers who was arrested for flipping out 258 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.079 and stabbing three of the passengers, two were cruise workers, one was an 259 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:34.480 actual passenger while on the cruise. According to a press release from the US 260 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.519 Attorney's Office for the District of Alaska as in like the FBI, a man 261 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:44.839 from South Africa identified as Natando Sigoni probably pronounced that wrong, has been arrested 262 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:49.480 by the FBI. He's facing assault charges after allegedly attacking multiple passengers with a 263 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:56.400 pair of medical scissors. For the Alaskan based Federal Prosecutors, Sigone was working 264 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:03.039 on a Norwegian Cruise Line vessel that left Seattle Hey Mark over the weekend and 265 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:07.119 was bound for Juno, Alaska. It was supposed to shepherd guests through the 266 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.720 quote unquote incredible sites of British Columbia, Alaska, and the Pacific Northwest, 267 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:17.440 But for one vacationing woman and two cruise ship employees, they all got stabbed. 268 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:22.680 The incident began when when other cruise ship workers allegedly observed this guy trying 269 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:26.039 to release a lifeboat from the side of the ship. That was clue number 270 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:30.680 one. He wasn't all there. They contacted security and he was escorted to 271 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.640 the cruise vessel's medical center. As opposed to the jail. There, he 272 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:38.839 allegedly picked up a pair of medical scissors and attacked multiple people without any provocation 273 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:42.640 whatsoever. And I know this is when Taualla starts slipping out because he's not 274 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:47.519 going to get on a ship and have to worry about getting attacked. Prosecutors 275 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:51.759 say none of the three provoked, None of the three people provoked Sigoni in 276 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:55.559 any way, and that the violent attack came up out of the blue. 277 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.319 The woman was stabbed multiple times, and the other employees were seriously injured too. 278 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.680 I have to wonder since the way it's laid out, the woman was 279 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:10.920 stabbed last, but how did she get stabbed the most when she was stabbed 280 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:15.920 last? Probab because she didn't run messed up. I thought the crew was 281 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.960 going to take care of her. She was like, well they got it, 282 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:22.039 they got a hand. Oh my god, they don't. But she's 283 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:25.400 probably she According to that, she was in a medical examination room, so 284 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:30.079 she was probably blocked in. My point is there were other people there who 285 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.599 could have jumped in, could have done something. I no, no, 286 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.960 No, one's jumping in while a crew members stabbing folks. That's not when 287 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.440 you jump in, not on the ship. No, No, Look, 288 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:45.599 you're worried about that boat sinking, You're worried about mega sharks, you are 289 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.400 worried about falling into the water. You got way too much, the dead 290 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.920 bodies in the freezer. You got too much to worry about. What would 291 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:56.480 concern me is when they find this guy trying to lower a lifeboat into the 292 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:02.000 water, I'm thinking, what does he know that I don't m go. 293 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:12.960 You can only push gophers so far he's gonna But if he's he's letting other 294 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:15.759 lifeboat, I'm thinking, like, did he leave a bomb, you know, 295 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.200 did he release some sort of toxin? Why is he trying to get 296 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:23.599 off the ship. And then once you get that guy, why why would 297 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:30.160 why would you not put him in the brig some sort of jail you can 298 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.599 you can analyze him from jail. True, put him in the ice cream 299 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:38.200 freezer. Yeah, because once he's trying to do something which could harm the 300 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:44.599 ship or change I don't know, when you let a lifeboat go, anything 301 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.400 could happen. Or he's trying to let anything happen. He needs to be 302 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:55.960 detained, not examined. You examine him in the medical uh lounge or wherever 303 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.279 the medical center put his ass in the jail and then send a doctor to 304 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.240 him. It's much safer that way. Well, how you put him in 305 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.119 irons, that's what you do, put him in irons. Failing that, 306 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.079 you keel haul them. That's that's how it worked in the old days. 307 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.279 You're so helpful and you have Isaac watch over them. You haven't been on 308 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:17.599 a cruise, have you? Mark? Are you kidding me? I wouldn't 309 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.400 if your life depended on it. One of these anti cruise people to all 310 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.000 of the won't go on a cruise? Mark won't go on a cruise, 311 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.599 stebbing, I don't know. This story is not helping. Do you think 312 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:33.200 the story helps? I hope you don't think the story helps. You are 313 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:38.079 strong selling you were not going to go on a cruise even before this happened. 314 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:41.480 You know what, Every single year I think to myself, maybe it's 315 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.599 not that bad, and then all of a sudden you have stabbing mcjenkins out 316 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:49.440 of here to take it to the people on the boat. No, sir, 317 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:52.880 Well, even with the stabbings, mo, aren't these things notorious for 318 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:59.640 being just floating culture dishes where everybody comes down with something. Look, we 319 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:04.680 all know that you have what's the word in a version to common sense? 320 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:07.640 Is the term you're looking for? No, no, no, no, 321 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:12.160 no, you're you're borderline hypochondriacs. Not what I were to No. Look, 322 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:18.160 just because Mark doesn't want to get on Carnival Herpie simplex tim Quemsy's that 323 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.799 does not make him anti social or against people. Well, no, it's 324 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.640 hard enough just to get the man to go to movies. Okay, he's 325 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:30.160 hypochondria. That's not what it is. That's insane. What a sick thing 326 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:36.160 of you to say. You've said it. You were you were you were 327 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.640 reticent to go to movie theaters because they were super spreader events. According to 328 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:44.079 you, we're four years into a global pandemic that's killed more than a million 329 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:48.400 Americans. What about that? It's hard to know you're so you're agreeing that 330 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.920 that's you're a hypochondria. I have a healthy degree of common sense when it 331 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.519 comes to super spreader locations where you're more likely to get sick. You don't 332 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:00.359 see me going to like a big crowded concert or a gym right now, 333 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.240 either, do you. Mark? People can't see you. But you're working 334 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:08.119 in a box which is smaller than a prison cell and you share instruments with 335 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:11.839 six other people in the given day. That's a good point. I'm not 336 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:17.920 swapping fluids with anybody in here. You use a little of the same mic 337 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:21.119 as everyone else pretty much. Well, it's not going in me. I'm 338 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:27.880 just talking in front of it. You're breathing pretty good stuff. Pick aside, 339 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:34.480 will you. You're basically kissingbor Mark and Michael Krozer right now. Well, 340 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:40.720 first of all, I'm not sure how I actually kneel about. Come 341 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:44.359 here, Crozier, there, give me some tongue. There's much worse in 342 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.640 the building if you want to, if you want to go there. Let's 343 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:53.240 let's stick to the cruise situation here. You cannot deny that there are widespread 344 00:23:53.240 --> 00:24:00.599 reports of people on cruises coming down with something that's You don't care about that, 345 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:02.920 apparently, no, I do care about it. But there are certain 346 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:04.519 things that my wife and I do when we're on the ship, when we 347 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.400 go up and down the steps, we don't put our hands on the rails. 348 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:11.359 You wear haz matt suit, both of you for the whole cruise. 349 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.960 No, no, no, no, Like when we go in the pool 350 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:17.000 on the ship, we're a condom. That kind of thing. Uh huh 351 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:18.480 uh huh, of course, yeah, yeah, gotta try. It's great, 352 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.759 it's great. Yeah, we'll get three day cruise. There's nothing that 353 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:25.400 would please me more than to pay a whole bunch of money to go on 354 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:29.799 a cruise and then come down with something horrifying that has a liquid shooting out 355 00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:32.440 of every orifice in my body. Yeah, yeah, please, Where do 356 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.279 I sign up for that? Look? What are the odds? Look, 357 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:38.759 you went to Pastathon and that was a super spreader event, and what happened. 358 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:41.480 I got sick for nine days. That's what happened when I went to 359 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.359 Pastathon. So what are the odds of it happening again? Pretty good? 360 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:51.519 Why do you want to see me sick and or dead? Why? What 361 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.960 have I ever done to you that you didn't richly deserve? Your horoscope when 362 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.000 we come back is Later with mo Kelly camp I AM six forty. We're 363 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.839 live everywhere the Heart Radio app. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on 364 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:10.559 demand from KFI AM six forty KFI AM six forty. It's Later with mo 365 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.680 Kelly. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And here is your horoscope 366 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.960 and you can learn more about the coping mechanism best suited to soothing your moon 367 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:22.680 sign. I'm not an astrologist, so I have no idea what that means. 368 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:30.880 Aris aries should find their path to peace through physical exertion. Moving energy 369 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:34.319 or feelings is a matter of moving the body. For these lunar natives, 370 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:40.559 running or doing a challenging exercise will do wonders for the mind, leading them 371 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:45.359 with clarity and ways to move forward. Taurus Taurus moon natives are urged to 372 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:52.519 revert to ritual comforts when emotions are running high or tensions are building. Retreating 373 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.200 the self care is the best option. Whether it's a twenty minute nap, 374 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.720 sleeping your favorite excuse me, steeping your favorite of tea, or doing a 375 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:07.960 moisturizing sheet mask. These small rituals will help out and get you back into 376 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:15.119 ease. Gemini. For this Mercury ruled moon, communication is tea. You'll 377 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:22.079 find safety in a community in or on online. If you feel comfortable recording 378 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:26.119 your woes and posting it on social media, go for it. On that 379 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.519 same note, scrolling through accounts that make you feel inspired, like travel or 380 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:37.799 lifestyle content can't also help release stress. Cancer cancer moons have sharpened instincts about 381 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.920 what they need when a crisis crops up. If there's a hobby that brings 382 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.519 you comfort, go do that, whether it's baking or going into a cocoon 383 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.759 and watching rom coms. Because cancer is ruled by the moon, people with 384 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:53.200 this placement will have a specific idea on how to nurture and take care of 385 00:26:53.240 --> 00:27:00.119 themselves. Leo moons are advised to lead with and live by the principle a 386 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.559 play. Do something creative or an activity that lets your inner child play. 387 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:10.519 Think adult jungle gym or trampoline park, or even taking out those art supplies 388 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:15.319 and making some new paintings. If all that seems too daunting, don't underestimate 389 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.200 a good dance session. Turn on your favorite song and dance it out. 390 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:25.160 Hey, Virgos, scrub your way to emotional satisfaction. That's the name of 391 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.839 the game. Have you ever heard of stress cleaning? This was made famous 392 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.559 thanks to a Virgo mom. Work out the nhous energy with a cleaning or 393 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.599 organizational task and before you know it, you'll be left with a home and 394 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.000 mind free of clutter. And see that would work for me. When I 395 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:45.480 clean up, I clean up my mind as well. I'd like a decluttered 396 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:51.599 atmosphere Libra and if fitting for the sign of partnership, Lunar libras are advised 397 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.799 to seek out the counsel and company of others after first establishing consent, lean 398 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.160 on a friend to vent about your struggles. Of course, make sure they 399 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.359 can support you at this time. Being the friend who vinced to people unwarranted 400 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.599 isn't the best idea. That is, if you want to keep your friend's 401 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.839 status. Scorpio, are you ready to wallow? Yeah, here we go. 402 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.720 The moon is said to be in its fall in the sign of Scorpio, 403 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.039 and these lunar babies would do well to burn bright till the bad feelings 404 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:23.440 are burned out. Plot your revenge. Kind of kidding. There are a 405 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.920 few ways this scorpio can relieve stress. One is with a consenting partner, 406 00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:33.160 if you know you know, And the other is taking a burning hot hotter 407 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.119 than the sun's shower bath or finding a steam room and hanging out there for 408 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.960 a bit. Crying not necessary, but let it out if it comes up. 409 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.720 And if you feel called to do a combination of the two. And 410 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:49.200 here's mine is Sagittarius. Sagittari's moons can mitigate life's highs and lows with detours 411 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:53.559 of the mental and physical variety. When things are rough, find a sweet 412 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.440 escape, which can mean planning a trip or booking a flight at a moment's 413 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.640 notice. Catch flights, not feelings right When the budget is tight, op 414 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:07.359 for a low escape like reading a thrilling book or learning about a new subculture 415 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:14.400 or esoteric philosophy to live by sounds kind of point Capricorn as the moon sign 416 00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:21.279 of the proverbial grind, Capricorn can get right by getting to work. Go 417 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:25.960 to your favorite spreadsheet or list and start checking off boxes. Well, that 418 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.519 should eat the stress away at a Capricorn moon, and as the feeling of 419 00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.240 losing control at least to the spreadsheet, you know all the variables. Finding 420 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.599 ordering chaos is the only way a Capricorn moon can feel stable. After feeling 421 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:44.599 unnerved, Aquarius Aquarius goes out and gets it out. Reach out to your 422 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.440 greater community, similar to Gemini. If you feel safe posting your feelings, 423 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.880 do that. If not, find your most eccentric and different minded friend and 424 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.759 ask them for their point of view. Well, that's not sad to Cherished, 425 00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.960 because iould never asked Mark anything. The more point of views. Aquarius 426 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.279 moon gets the east here. It is for them to find different ways to 427 00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:07.960 look at their situation. Pisces, it's the domain of pain and poetry, 428 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:12.480 and it's a recommended moon mechanism which reflects that spirit. With such a sensitive 429 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:18.279 placement, these natives need to separate themselves from others and turn on a favorite 430 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.559 melancholy playlist with the hopes that they can let out wailing cries. If you 431 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:29.480 are musical, play an instrument or sing those emotional power ballads. And that 432 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.160 is your horoscope for this week, to balance out your moon or whatever your 433 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.119 moon rise and whatever the moon has to do with your horoscope, I don't 434 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.440 know, but that's what it is. It's later with Mo Kelly. We 435 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.240 are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We're not just in smart speakers, 436 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:51.279 We're in a couple of smart ears as well. K SI and kost HD 437 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:56.079 two Los Angeles, Orange County live everywhere on the radio WA