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Welcome to Podcast uber I' m
Karen Garcia. In today' s episode

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we will talk about the world of
artificial intelligence and its impact on the production

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and dissemination of knowledge. To guide
us a little bit more in this conversation,

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we have the pleasure of talking with
MiguelÁngel Pineda, Cup Masters in

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History students from the National University of
Colombia and expert in University Edition Hello,

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MiguelÁngel. It' s nice
to have you with us Hello. Good

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morning. Thank you very much for
the invitation and, well, a pleasure

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to be part of this podcast and
a greeting to all the audiences who listen

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to us to understand a little more
this relationship between academia and artificial intelligence.

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You could explain these concepts to us. Yeah, well, artificial intelligence.

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Let' s say there are many
definitions and there are ways to assume it

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and understand it, but let'
s say that, in general, what

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we could understand today is that they
are technologies that are ready for human beings

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in order to achieve support or support, a help in different scenarios, productive,

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generative of knowledge. That is why
there are different language models, there

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are different behavioral models and artificial intelligence
generation that are based on a large amount

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of database that learns that intelligence to
configure certain knowledge, certain products or that

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generates certain content in specific. Then
they are based on a generative, automated,

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trained, generative sense that, therefore, is left to the person who

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consults artificial intelligence in different topics that
are asked to artificial intelligence. An artificial

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intelligence can generate an image, it
can generate a video, it can generate

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a text, different products that we
can indicate that intelligence so that we can

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how you do in your data training, generate a product or a specific response.

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So that' s like the most
basic definition we can understand of artificial

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intelligence. And just one of the
areas that is getting the most impact from

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these generational or automated technologies is education. I believe that there are some very

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interesting reconfigurations of certain educational practices,
professional pedagogical practices that are telling teachers,

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students, the whole value chain of
education, that things are changing, in

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the way that knowledge is being produced
and disseminated. Today, then, these

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artificial intelligences come to support precisely educational
processes and that I believe that today,

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for education, is a great opportunity
beyond a risk or a prevention that we

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should have that there are, of
course, like any other technology. But

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I believe that nowadays, these generational
technologies, based on large amounts of data

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for what they are today is to
be able to support pedagogical training processes and

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I think there is a lot to
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those connections between academy and artificial intelligence. Michelangelo that also how machine learning systems

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and algorithmic models can improve the productivity
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educational environment. Yes, more or
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machine learning systems that help people who
approach technologies and who use these kinds of

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systems is just organizing a series of
data to train a technological tool that is

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based on a series of algorithms,
a series of codes and specific programming that

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receives that amount of data and processes
them to interpret a response that is very

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close to what we asked for.
I think that, in that sense,

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artificial intelligence, because it improves productivity
because they make it more agile, a

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consulted and much more specific, much
richer, depending on the amount of data

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that the intelligence has that adopted intelligence, not much more punctual, if you

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want, because well, for example, Google is an artificial intelligence that I

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have lived with us for many years. Not because, of course, it

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' s automated technology that you consult
the portal and the portal gives you five

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hundred thirty- eight thousand results according
to what you asked. But let'

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s say that, unlike Google,
artifical intelligence, trained learning systems, and

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algorithmic language learning models are more specific
and focused on the amount of data you

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have provided. That intelligence so that
she interoperates that information and generates a series

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of concrete answers. No, then
I feel that if productivity improves because,

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as I tell you today, we
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I need to generate an image with
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you because it is already interpreting something
much more elaborate, much more specific and

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gives you a very close answer to
what is expected. Then let' s

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say times. Now that is something
that already facilitates the processes. Time,

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above all to be precise and to
be the most agile today in society,

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because we can give greater and more
prompt answers to the questions of life and,

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for example, models of language,
algorithmic as chad Gi Piti, which

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is one of many examples, is
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response that allows us to base ourselves
and from there to build new knowledge,

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because, of course, artificial incligence
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we have given it of supply for
the one who trains. He' s

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practically giving us the answer we want, but it' s in us to

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say good. Chadjipit helped me,
but this is a starting point for producing

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something much more powerful, richer.
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s where the researcher, the teacher, the teacher, the student or the

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university editor or the librarian would have
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because of course I had an intelligence
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helped me, but I am the
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must give the quality to the investigation, recognizing that I made use of an

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artificial intelligence that helped me. So
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on artificial intelligence, but always through
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his critical concept, in his argumentative
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starting point, a support and not
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Miguel and for those people you mentioned
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a teacher or perhaps a librarian or
an editor, what ethical or legal

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challenges should this person use when making
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is being conducted? If we say
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point is that there is the mediation
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I' d put the investigator,
the human being. It is very important

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because, of course, artificial intelligence
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we hope will help us, but
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trust at all that artificial intelligence will
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the production processes of a knowledge.
So what are the risks, as in

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that sense, since inaccuracy, lack
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also a very important problem, because
of course, students, teachers, well

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different actors in the value chain of
education, are at risk of falling into

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certain simplistic and reductionist activities. And
that, in some way, could lead

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to us not respecting other people'
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not even respecting ourselves, because we
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that, if we fully assume it
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else to say, this is the
perfect knowledge and we do not question it.

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I believe that we are being,
as disrespectful and there are ethical principles

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of respect, fairness, justice,
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but also of the quality of what
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question, of academic quality. It
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think judiciously of instruments that would help
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it, to do so, to
germinate with great quality, with great awareness.

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So I think that like the big
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another big problem would be digital gaps. Not today, many people could

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be trained in the use of artificial
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thing. Nor is it so difficult, but for others it is difficult.

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No. So let' s think
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world, the peasant world, rural
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think that how they' re going
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' re prepared. We can help
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of intelligences. Is the country ready
for that? What would be the program

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or the course to carry out that? That' s not clear today.

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And I think the digital divide is
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going to know, at least in
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Cali Barranquilla, the main capitals of
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that can be trained and can know
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work on artificial intelligence, but that
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citizens, have access to artificial intelligences
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use them and if they will use
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a challenge beyond social ethics. It
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the current regulations, the current regulations, because currently the country has entered

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into a new policy of regulating artificial
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Technology. This policy is progressing,
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it lacks much more development, much
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above all, much more involvement of
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are talking about a scenario between quotation
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day world of people who require daily
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propose a solution to something concrete,
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an image, something generative that supports
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as we say, like the big
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I see it as the big risk
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and that it is not a and
that it becomes irresponsible of its use,

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because if we do not have control
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the barrier and because we also run
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did, what intelligence did and how
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produced. Miguel and changing a little
topic in terms of your expertise in the

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university edition, what are the main
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intelligence. Let' s say that
if today I think there are several tools

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and in fact, the event that
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He is just going to dedicate himself
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table to talking about the most important
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knowledge today and for the future.
Not then do I think that today,

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the university editor or academic editor is
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how to think profitable editorial projects that
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is much more dynamic from artificial intelligences
that can provide support in knowing what are

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the markets that can attend, how
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this type of content, who can
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how can we communicate it concretely and
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it, to buy it, to
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And that I think that the university
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of assuming that his editorial project has
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sustained, because if not, then, it will perish, that is to

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say almost always. The custom is
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of being a funded entity, does
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they edit or the content they are
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t just pay me for this.
I have money, for this I can

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do it, but they stay half
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take the next step, which is
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communicate it to society. So I
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they can generate new flashy content to
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and I also think it can also
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processes, how much it would cost
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with different discounts. And that can
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has the ability to program numbers text
numbers that allow the university editor, if

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he knows it, to train very
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and take care of the economic values
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there' s a very big challenge. They are the artificial intelligences definitely a

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tool to be able to find the
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lost it a little bit and that
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very well in the university edition.
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university editor to re- emerge that
relationship with her readers, make them more

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dynamic, more direct, if you
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find information from many readers who are
interested in certain contents and we can already

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say ok with these contents, with
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catalogue towards there. Not then is
it a great opportunity, as we have

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been holding the perfect principle Miguel and
taking advantage that you are here in the

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radio rosary microphones tell us about the
event opportunities of artificial intelligence in the production

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of knowledge and dissemination that will be
held within the framework of the Book fair

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in Bogotá two thousand twenty- four, in which also a radio rosary will

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make presence, where the main opportunities
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ecosystem will be analyzed. What are
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the Good event. Yes, Specifically, the event is called the University Edition

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Forum. It is an event that
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Association of University Publishers of Colombia ACEUC
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precisely called academic intelligences and artificial intelligences. We will have guests from Spain,

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Brazil, Colombia, Peru. Many
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Mexico, Chile, Peru itself,
Venezuela Good in Spain, or there will

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also be many editors who will share
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18 April and 19 April, in
the afternoon days. They will share

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with us new experiences and the most
recent topics being discussed about artificial intelligence in

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the academic world. So let'
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because, starting from the main conference, give as claritys and form different

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actors, not only university or librarian
editors, or all those who are related

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to the scientific publication scenario, but
in the amplitude. We want the professors

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of the universities, of the professors
of the schools to go to that event

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and find out that what is happening
in their field from artificial intelligences, which

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is what is changing, which is
what is mutating, and where this horizon

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is going. So, that is
a very general, very large conference that

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aims to be more informative, formative, critical about the challenges and opportunities and

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tools of artificial intelligence in the scientific
and pedagogical world. And now, we

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will also have tables that talk about
the social, environmental and ethical impacts of

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artificial intelligence in the academic world.
Also on the same 18th of April we

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will have a table that will talk
about inclusive editing and accessibility in publications,

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that is, how to think about
editorial products or contents that are friendly and

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respectful to communities with difficulties or disabilities, both visual, auditory and other types.

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Then and how these products that are
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by artificial intelligence. I mean,
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those communities that we don' t
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very big opportunity with artificial intelligences today. If the human being cannot help

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him in his past, it will
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disabilities. It is a question that
left how formulated and that I think the

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Bureau will discuss and already on the
second day we will count on José Fernando

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Tabares. It comes from Brazil,
the guest country of the film this year,

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that publisher that distributor of editorial content, and he will give us a

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practical workshop talk on the use of
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publishing market. So it' s
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' re going to see army,
we' re going to do exercises,

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we' re going to know the
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sell, how to produce, how
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do editorial marketing. So, that' s going to be very rich,

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because there we' re going to
be trained beyond the theoretical. We'

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re going to put into practice the
use of artificial intelligence. And now to

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close, we will have a table
on cultural economy and artificial intelligence, that

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is, how the arts, creativity, the scientific world is turned to think

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critically about the use of artificial intelligences
and how art also rents itself. Think

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of business models for the future based
on artificial intelligence. So, that'

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s going to be very, very
chevere, because we' re also going

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to have people who are experts in
marketing what they' re going to tell

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us. Well, these are tools, these are the risks, these are

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the requirements to be able to think
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based on new audiences and that are
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So, that makes it very rich, because that reframes the scenario that

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we think we' re starting from
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don' t think there' s
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we give them, some other things
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is changing those relationships. And finally, the event closes with a ceremony giving

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the award to the university edition a
lifetime that this year the winner is Dr

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Estela Valbuena García. She was editor
of the Catholic University of Colombia and was

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treasurer for many years. She took
part as the Board of Directors of ACEUC

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and she, therefore, had a
very important role in the association so that

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the university publishing association would grow and, above all, keep as the accounts

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the fine ones of an association that
we know that in Colombia associations are difficult

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to maintain, They do not become
extinct very quickly, but thanks to women

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like her and talents like her,
because today the association lives and continues to

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give many things for society, like
this event that we invite them to participate

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eighteen and nineteen April from two to
six and a half in the afternoon.

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And well, everyone is invited,
because I think it is in everyone'

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s interest to discuss in a critical, argumentative or knowledge of cause, but

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also in a proactive way, the
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That' s right, Miguel,
as you well said, it'

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s a topic that matters to all
of us then, as a last question,

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where we can find information in general
terms, where the event itself is

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going to be that has set aside
a pavilion of corperias. Yes, the

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event is going to take place in
the great B Hall of corpheries. That

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is a sector, a corner of
corferias and there are, therefore, several

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halls. Ours is going to be
the B in the afternoon hours of the

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18th and 19th of April, and
all the information, all the complete programming,

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can be found on the page of
the film two thousand twenty- four

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and there in the tab that says
professional days. There they are going to

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find Forum of University Edition, academic
intelligences and artificial intelligences. And there,

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then, you can also purchase your
tickets to enter the forum and we also

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invite you to follow the social networks
of ACEUC both on Instagram, Facebook,

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on Linkedin. There' s a
lot of information. Every day we'

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re publishing information and well, I
really think the event is unmissable. It

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is a very good offer accessible for
all axis, for all. Really very

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guests and there we expect them perfect. Thanks to all the listeners of Podcast

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Uere. We were talking with Miguel
Pineda about all these issues related to artificial

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intelligence that, as our guest said
well, is a topic that we all

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need to know and that we all
need to know the specific characteristics of this

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tool. Thank you all for tuning
in and we' ll be with more

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until soon.
