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We are back. It is October
twenty ninth, getting toward the end of

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the month, getting toward the end
of the year. Whenever Halloween rolls around.

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You know, that the year is
pretty much over. So we did

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it. Pat yourselves on the back, everybody. We're making it through this

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year. We're still here. For
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like we I knew we'd do this. I knew we'd make it.

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You know, it always seems like
the world's about to end, but it

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never quite does, so you know, don't worry too much about that.

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But oh yes, if you want
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Type him a message. He'll bring
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three one nine five two seven five
zero one six. And something very appropriate

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and uh a synchronistic just happened there, just happens to be a black cat

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who jumped up next to me in
the chair. Is it an omen?

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Is it an Is it the spirits
of all Hallows Eve? It's not all

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Hallows Eve yet, but it will
be soon. Is it a harbinger of

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the gateways opening between two worlds?
Is it just a cat that's in my

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room? I can't quite tell which
of these it is. It could be

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any of them, but he's here, he's sitting next to me, and

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this is interesting. So maybe I'll
use that black cat energy to summon up

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a show that is at least a
notch or two above terrible. That's what

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we're shooting for by that's my expectations
for myself. You gotta you know,

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you gotta have goals. You gotta
set the bar high, you gotta go,

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you gotta go for it. You
gotta try. But there's nothing wrong

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with being realistic either. You know. We got to remember that now.

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You don't have to. You don't
want to overextend yourself. You don't want

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to over exert. That's how you
get an injury. Can be downright and

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dangerous. So you just got to
know when to slow down, take it

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easy. Everything's going to be fine. And I think that's a good overall

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message for all of us. Just
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what there are of them there,
because there's usually quite a bit when you

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think about it, do you have
to stop and remember those things? I

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do this with myself and with the
people close to me. I'm like,

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well, remember this, remember that. You know. It's like we don't

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have to get too upset about whatever
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you know, whatever, right,
it's like, not that big a deal.

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We're going to be fine. Halloween's
nearly here. The kids are going

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to be wearing and costumes. It'll
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candy. That's pretty cool. I
guess phase shifter give me a hard time

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about saying we've made it through the
year when we actually haven't made it yet.

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We got two months more. You
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yet. That's the other side of
this coin, isn't it. We have

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to be like, Okay, we're
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drop the ball, don't put your
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it to the other side of this
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I'm pretending that there is right now. On the other side is January first,

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twenty twenty twenty four, because at
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make it to there, we will
know that we've made it through Uncles New

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Year's Revolution. And there's another one
on them in the old archives, so

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the world would be that much brighter. Right, We have one more Uncle's

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New Year's Revolution that is a graced
the digital airwaves, live streaming for four

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hours at least every New Year's Eve, Uncles New Year's Revolution and yeah,

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it's mark your calendars. We're gonna
do one again this year. New Year's

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Eve had here at Ochili dot com. Be with us will be live streaming.

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It begins only at eight, eight, nine, ten eleven. Yeah,

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it begins at eight pm Pacific time, which should be eleven pm Eastern

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time, and it goes for four
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New Year's Eve. We celebrate New
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zones. I was having issues with
the time zones earlier. Today we do

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have a guest on the Uncle Show, and I was tripping over myself remembering

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when the stark time for the show
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So time it's hard to keep track
of, you know, get you get

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in a routine. The week has
its own routine, right, and that's

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pretty easy. You just set your
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you wake up, you go through
the motions, you go back to

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your room at night, you set
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you do it again. You do
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when this pesky weekend rolls around,
you got to figure out what to do

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with yourself. Man, it's easier
said than done. You think it's just

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you wake up, or you hope. Actually you don't have to wake up,

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you hope you just keep sleeping and
you wake up. I don't know,

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like at noon you wake up,
and noon you roll out of bed

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and you proceed to sit on the
couch and not do a thing. That's

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the ideal, right, I think
that's the ideal. But I take these

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what I like to believe are surveys, which is just me talking to people,

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and make note of what they say, what they say, what they're

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telling me it is that they do
with their lives. And according to that

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version of reality, which is shaky
at best, I think this is what

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people do. They wake up late
on the weekend and they don't do anything.

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That's not the way it usually works
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I end up having to wake up
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I have to do stuff which isn't
difficult and don't believe for a second I'm

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complaining. It's just you know,
expectation versus reality. It's never the same.

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And look the big problems here the
weekend. Oh boy, I can't

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sleep. I want to. I'm
just in here whinding away about stuff that

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doesn't matter. But maybe maybe i'm
not. Maybe I'm actually enjoying things for

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what they are. And maybe this
isn't so bad because I know that it's

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not. It's actually pretty cool,
and the routine of the week isn't really

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that bad. It's interesting in its
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during your daily repetitions to just kind
of think about what it is that you're

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doing, or use your spare time, if that's what it is. If

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your mind is able to multitask while
you're going through the motions, then maybe

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that's actually a luxury. And I
do frequently come back to ask, like,

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look, my mind is wandering.
My mind's wandering. I can pretty

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much I'm free right now. Yes, I'm doing XYZ because it's part of

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the mandated schedule, but I'm also
doing one two three, or maybe it's

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the other way around. Maybe it's
one two three is what you got to

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do in X Y Z is what's
in your head, or maybe it's another

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string of the letters or numbers.
I don't know what they are, but

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whatever they happen to be at the
time, they change from time to time

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depends on your mood. Right and
len and behold. Multitasking is a real

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thing. Sometimes it seems fake sometimes
like it seems like a big play just

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to make everything acceptable, make like
the insanity we're that is thrust upon us

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sounds like it makes sense, you
know, like, yeah, you need

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a multitask and when you do,
you're doing more and you're that's what you're

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supposed to do, okay, So
yeah, it sounds like something that somebody

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made up just to get you to, you know, go along, to

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get along or whatever. But maybe
maybe it is real. Maybe it's true.

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Maybe using your head and living in
your own head, at least for

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a moment is good because you get
to do what you want and you to

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think what you want. And again, if you have the luxury to do

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that, that's something, right,
because I know not everybody does. I

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know that's the case. I know
a lot of people are totally consumed with

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like if you don't give one attention
to your prescribed tasks, then there are

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gonna be consequences potentially your life right
or someone else's life. You know,

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if you work in the healthcare industry, other people's lives are in your hands.

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I look at people to do that. I don't know how, Like,

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I don't know how you can deal
with that. I don't. I

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don't think I could do it.
It's a lot of pressure. I and

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if if I were to mess up, I don't know if I could.

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I don't know if I could continue. If I if I made a mistake,

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you know what I mean, Like
that would get to me. But

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it can happen at any moment in
anyone's day. You can make a mistake

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and there can be consequences that you
cannot be undone. So we have to

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remember that too. So do pay
attention, do your best at what needs

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to be done, and whatever you
can carve out time to think about whatever

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it is that you feel as necessary
or whatever happens to pop up, and

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go for it. I think the
point I might be making, and I'm

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probably not, is that for a
lot of our days and hours, the

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time that we exist, we spend
them in our own heads. We live

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in our own heads. We are
our thoughts right. The things that are

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going on in our mind are what
consumes us. It is literally what commands

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our attention, and a lot of
things can command your attention. The immediate

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is always there, and sometimes if
you're losing sight of the immediate, that

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gets to be become a grave danger. That's what I was talking about.

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You need to pay attention to what
you need to pay attention to in order

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to continue existing without harming yourself or
others. That's just the basic getting along

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in the waking world. Sometimes easier
said than done, depends on what's going

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on with you. Some people end
up having issues where they just can't do

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that, and that's unfortunate. But
for those of us that can, we

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are fortunate there and that we can
hold it together. We at least have

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that much. And going back to
counting your blessing blessings, we have that

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or those of us that do,
we have that. So that's that one

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up on the mantle and celebrate it
right when you come back at home at

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night and think about the good things. That's one of them. Even when

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it seems like it's a burden,
it's actually a good thing. And the

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incredibly mundane, boring, trivial.
Sometimes if you look at another way,

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it's actually a good thing, and
it's nice to be able to do It's

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nice to be able to do just
regular things, right, regular stuff.

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So I will remember that. I
do remember that. I hope we all

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do. But yeah, we live
in our own heads, our headspace,

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and a lot I mean, there's
a lot of room there in terms of

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the headspace realm. Right, there's
a lot of things that can come around

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to affect your state of mind.
And this again, your thoughts. What's

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going on in your head is your
that is you, that's your existence.

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Like whatever you think is going on
to you, that is what's going on.

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Right. You might be psychotic and
you might think things that definitely aren't

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happening are but it's crazy to think
that to a psychotic that is that's what's

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going on. And I think that's
what's so horrifying to think about, you

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know, such things as like jeez, Louise, like this person sincerely,

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I mean, I mean, there's
just no way around it, Like this

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is what they're seeing. They see
this and to them it is happening,

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and to me, I can sit
back and like act like, yes,

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of course it's not. But you
know what about for them, what does

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that mean? What does that mean
that they're living in such a way they're

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living in a psychotic state. It's
still a person. It's another human there,

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another human being who that is their
world is something that is just what

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do you even call that? I
mean, it's it's just it's something that

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got into their head due to their
condition that is out of their control.

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So they can't presumably there's no way
to control it, you know what I

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mean. I mean, we can
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yeah, like and you know,
you could become a guru or something like,

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oh, you will never become psychotic
if you follow my method, and

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you'll be able to always be in
control of everything in yourself and blah blah

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blah blah blah blah. But I
don't think it probably works that way,

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does it. In fact, if
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somebody who starts talking like that,
maybe you might be more prone to falling

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into a psychosis at some point in
the near future. Perhaps, But I

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don't know either way. I'm just
saying, so be careful what you think.

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Whenever you think that you're better than
you know this that the other or

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somebody else, or you think that
something is beneath you, or you think

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something can't happen to you, because
if anybody who's paying attention knows that bad

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things happen to good people, first
of all, nobody can ever predict what

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will happen. You know, any
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Nobody can predict the absolute certainty.
You can't do it. And so

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this isn't a bad thing. It's
just a realization. It's like, oh,

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I realize this, and that's you
know, one of those almost like

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Buddhist sort of things, is where
you realize these horrors of the world in

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which we live, but you accept
them, and you, in your acceptance

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of the horrors that exists all around
you, you're able to exist in a

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peaceful state of mind, come as
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is humanly possible. Because it's tough. It is tough to do, isn't

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it All sorts of chaos and discord
waiting right on the peripheries, it's right

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there. And maybe that's what psychosis
is. Maybe it's just like the that

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enters in and how would it not. I mean, it's right there,

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it's right on the edge of you
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This is never going to end existence
that we do day in day ass

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like, oh I'm fine now,
and it's just gonna keep being this way.

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that the horrible things can happen,
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in and of itself. So back
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a way to accept the seemingly unacceptable. And then you get into the interesting

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philosophical questions of life. You get
it, maybe you're thinking theologically, and

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you get to the age old issue
of you know, oh the God,

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if there's a god, how could
it let this happen? And why it's

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impossible no God would ever do this? And I mean, first of all,

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I don't know for this is me
personally, my take on that particular

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little thing. If there's a god, how can you say what in the

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world it's doing at all? Right? Is it not? By its very

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nature like above and beyond us to
such a point where like if we try

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to pick apart whatever God's actions are, that we are doomed to fail because

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we're so much less than right.
We're at such a lower level of existence

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understanding that we can't possibly fathom what
God is, how it works. Any

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sort of ascribing of values is going
to be an an anthropomorphization of a deity

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first of all, and of course
we do that with everything. But as

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long as we realize that's what we're
doing, and then okay, And I

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think that's what a lot of these
guys and funny hats over the ages have

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been doing. They know full well
what they're up to. They know that

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any God that exists is so far
beyond that. Yes, we can sit

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here, we can answer promorphize,
and I think they realize, like,

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yes, that is what we're doing. We're answer promorphizing, and this is

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our particular interpretation. And we know
it works in our culture because this,

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this, and this, and we're
just kind of going with it because you

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know, it works, right,
it works, It gets the job done.

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What is the job keeping the people
happy? We know, by as

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we've been saying that is perhaps you
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Maybe that's all just you know,
a fancy allegory for how does one possibly

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attain any degree of happiness in this
insanity that we've been thrown into? Right,

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see what we're up against here?
How are we supposed to do it?

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I don't know Hercules did it though, he's pretty cool. So yeah,

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the guys in funny hats, if
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doing. If they're not smart,
then they believe their own bs honestly,

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then that's you know, isn't that
always a question at any given time?

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Like, oh, does this kook
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you know, is it his bread
and butter? Right? Is the evangelical

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Christians? Do they really believe this? Like the guys who've made their way,

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the guys who have made it,
you know, maybe they're a televangelist,

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they've made their livelihood building up some
silly network, some Christian TV network

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or whatever. Maybe they're an evangelical
politician and they're pandering to their base and

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it's worked out pretty good for them. You know, They've they made their

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way into Congress, they've cut some
deals, right, and it worked out

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for him. And you can kind
of understand that, right, Okay,

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Yeah, this guy's just rolling with
it because it's a it's just another scheme,

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right, might even be a scam
pipe be that makes sense. It's

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like, okay, actually that makes
the most sense. It's like, oh,

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okay, yeah, yeah, he's
he's a Charlotte in dirt bag that

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will do anything to get by.
I've seen a million people like that in

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my life and this is just,
you know, I guess a glorified version

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of that. That makes sense.
Now if this person believes what they're saying,

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they believe the evangelical lines. I
don't know what's that I that I

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have difficulty, but I on's why
when because again it gets back to like

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those basic questions like well what is
God? It's like, I don't know,

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Go ask God, Go ask God
that and and and find out and

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maybe if you're lucky, God will
talk to you and it won't be psychosis.

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If you're unlucky, it will talk
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So you know, have fun with
that one because you're rolling the dice.

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When when you get into that realm
and we want to get back to

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the cult aspect of things, Oh
boy, all sorts of ways to keep

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oneself into trouble. Out there,
and there's there's no shortage of them.

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Maintaining sanity, maintaining uh, maintaining
a sense of self is it requires a

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degree of pretense. You have to
know that so many things are just masks

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and personas. That's not necessarily a
bad thing. You need to do that.

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You need to be a certain way
in a certain setting. You need

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to be a certain person when you're
doing a certain But when you're a certain

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space, you're doing a certain thing, you become. You take on the

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role, so to speak. So
you're you're you're an actor, you're acting

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out the part. Right. What
was that sound? I thought I heard

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something? Thing was count chalcula.
Oh, there we go. So it

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wasn't voices. I'm not psychotic yet. It was an actual uh recording.

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There. I didn't recognize that one. I don't know about it. I'm

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sorry. I'm trying to drop in
Jimmy Schwagger doing his apology when he got

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busted because you brought up televangelists.
Oh okay, that's who that is.

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Yeah, it wasn't that good,
I guess, But that's the whole thing.

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When he cries, and that's the
famous thing. I've sinned against you,

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my Lord, and Ozzy Osbourne did
a whole thing on it, and

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in the song miracle Man. Anyways, just thought I played in there,

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dropping in there. I didn't want
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Sorry, yeah, no, no, that's all right. Now that is

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familiar now, I know I've seen
that. Yeah, oh yeah, it's

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his whole thing. And then it
became a whole big deal. And then

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of course she got to pose the
hooker. He had got to pose in

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Penthouse or payboy or whatever. But
it was, you know, it began,

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that's cheer, my little, that's
that's cheer, my little. I'm

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not gonna keep playing it just it
was so over dramatically, ridiculously clearly Jerry

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Lee Lewis's cousin. Everybody anyway,
sorry, oh man, Jerry Lee Lewis

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Ky nice, Okay, Well you
didn't know that that that's his cousin.

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No, I didn't remember that.
No, yeah, no, it's true

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story. You could look it up. He was, you know, the

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killer I mean, the you know, the Great Balls of Fire. That's

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his cousin. Jimmy Schwiger, Yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, the piano

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guy that married an underage woman,
right, right, right, yeah,

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okay, sure, okay, well
it runs into family, I guess the

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sin. But again, these that's
what happens out there. Things get a

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little weird. I mean, that's
like the eighties there. Man, that's

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a long time ago. So you
know anyway, I mean you you could

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go into that Jessica Han, the
Jim Baker thing. That's why I brought

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up the amusement park in the chat
room, because you know, Jesus wants

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me to build a water slide.
You know, was the whole thing with

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Sam kitt Is and I. I
cracked up every time he's gots. And

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the other thing is that this Peter
Popov is still out there. You know,

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this guy with the miracle water.
I don't know if I know him.

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He offers you a bag of miracle
water. I'm not kidding. You

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get the bag of water in the
mail. He'll send it to you for

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free. You get the bag of
water in the mail, you drink the

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water, and then you're meant to
think that they're gonna send you checks.

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So you're just gonna get checks in
the mail. All your financial problems will

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go away. The miracle water.
Yeah, it sounds like I'm leaving things

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out right. But I'm telling you
that's what the commercial. I want me

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to all go find a commercial.
Well, I you boy, it's it's

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bringing a lot to mine. It's
bringing a lot of ugly memories back to

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you. Okay, I don't mean
to traumatize you. Yeah. The thing

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that the thing that actually it brings
to mind is Isaac's Road. I think

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I've talked about this a few times
on the show. Is Isaacs Road out

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here on the fifteen Interstate fifteen.
I think I always have trouble with interstate

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numbers, Like I know how to
drive down them, I know where they

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all take me, but the actual
number of each individual road is difficult.

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But if you're driving from here where
I'm at in southern California, out to

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Las Vegas, Uh, there is
an interesting road off of the freeway and

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exit called is Isaax. It's spelled
zz y z X. Can I see

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here? It seems like I see
here. It seems like these kids are

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just regurgitating Bible versus. I don't
know if you really understand. Somebody put

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down in the chat room and I
accidentally kicked it. So that's okay,

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that's okay. Weird things are happening
tonight. I didn't mean to play that

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other clip five times either, but
the cat did it. This is what

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happened. Okay, now it's all
clear to me. Your cat, your

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cat is doing this, not in
line. I don't have a cat.

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I know, I know my cat. That's that's it. Oh he's gone

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now. Oh looks like that is
it? Back into the ether with you?

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All right? All right, that's
how this Halloween's gonna be. But

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yeah, Isaacs Road. There was
this guy who was I think he's credited

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as like the first radio evangelist.
Actually he was an early one. He

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was on the radio. This is
a guy named Curtis Springer. And here

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I have an article up here.
Okay, this is from Torrisquarner dot net.

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Okay, so it says in nineteen
forty four, Curtis Springer, a

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radio evangelist from Los Angeles, filed
a mining claim with the government and used

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the mineral springs found there Isaacs Road
to create a resort, which he named

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Isaacs. The resort drew people from
all over to try the false medicines and

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enjoyed the relaxation and healing that he
provided. However, the government eventually discovered

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what he was doing and kicked him
and his followers out, eventually giving the

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area to the California State University System
to be used as a desert research center,

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which it is today. There's like
these weird like springs out there.

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It's out in the desert. And
yeah, it's just off the freeway.

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If you take the exit to Baker
a couple miles down the road, there's

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like the back roads will take it
to Death Valley National Park. So it's

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pretty well out there in the Mojave
Desert. And this guy was an early

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televangelist and he was doing just that. He was selling mineral waters. You'd

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sell all sorts of like tonics and
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And I think he used is Isaacs
as like one of his gimmicks. He

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said it's the last word in health, I think is what he said,

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because literally it was like the last
word in the telephone book. Because he

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spelled diz z y z x.
He made it that name, so actually

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be the last name. Oh,
this is a little bit he did.

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Okay, well, look you go, you're gonna fix it. He make

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sure you get the last thing.
And I mean, there's no way anybody's

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gonna put something behind that. Yeah, it's good idea. Yeah right.

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Well, he was doing all this
like back in the forties, and he

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was there for many years, and
he ran it like a cult, and

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he would like coax people out there
like hey, if you want to come

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out here, you stay here.
And you know, he'd be all nicey

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at first, but then he'd somehow
find a way to gouge your life savings

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out of you, you know,
and you'd be living there. The streets

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were named like Boulevard of Dreams and
things like this. They're still named that,

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I think today, if you go
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it still says like Boulevard of Dreams. I tried to go downs Isaac's Road

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a year or two ago. We're
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and I was like, we're getting
off here, like I want to see

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this. I want to get off, and like everybody's yelling at me.

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The wife, my sister in law
was in the well. You know,

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I'm like, we gotta do this, we gotta do this. I pulled

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off the road and we drove down
it a little ways and then this ranger

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pulls us over. He was yelling
at me. And this was just at

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the beginning of the COVID thing.
This is twenty to twenty. He didn't

407
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.159
have a mask. He was yelling, spot that spit was flying on our

408
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.000
spy. What are you doing?
You see the sideback like, it's all

409
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.519
right, it's all right, we'll
leave. I'll hit the highway and we'll

410
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.559
hand off. The Death Valley calmed
down, so we turned around. We

411
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.239
left. So I didn't get to
see the Boulevard of Broken Dreams. I

412
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.239
didn't get to see any of that. But I maybe I'll go back and

413
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.039
it'll be opened back up again.
I don't know, but I don't know.

414
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.360
Just mentioning that it makes me think
of that, and well a couple

415
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.559
of times real fast. You have
a caller number one, number two.

416
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.559
I just put a link for Peter
Popov's Miracle water link that I found.

417
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.119
It is funny because in the commercial
that I caught, it just hit me

418
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.159
up side the head. When I
was watching, was I looking at?

419
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.519
Oh? I was looking at They
have now made new silver dollars. The

420
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.360
US men has issued these new silver
dollars. So I was looking at one

421
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.719
of those, you know, buy
o sober dollar collection you know things.

422
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.039
Late at night. I was looking
at it and all of a sudden it

423
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:21.559
goes to another commercial, and the
other commercial was Peter Popov and his miracle

424
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:27.199
water. And I went, okay, And it's funny because these people in

425
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.760
the commercial were saying they drank the
water. And at the very top of

426
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.760
the thing on his website it says, note do not ingest the miracle springwater.

427
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:43.760
The topical the miracle spring water is
a powerful biblical point of contact.

428
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.800
Almost all of the miracles in both
the Old and New Testaments happened when a

429
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.880
point of contact was used. I
believe the miracle springwater will help you to

430
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:55.719
use and release your faith as we
agree together for the miracle. You need

431
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.239
no kidding. This is what do
not note in big red letters, do

432
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.800
not ingest the miracle springwater. I'm
not kidding. So, but the commercial

433
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.480
as these people on there going I
drank it. I had checktion the mail.

434
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.360
I had all my you know,
they got checktion the mail. I

435
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.840
from what I don't know. I
guess you know what this is, Chuck,

436
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.000
is it's a test of faith,
right, because if you have faith,

437
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.840
you're going to read that one and
go God's God's here in charge of

438
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.239
this. I'm not gonna this is
miracle water. I can drink it.

439
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.639
That could be fine. Hey,
God can care anything. Okay, right,

440
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:32.800
it's a test of faith. That
is exactly what it is. Hey,

441
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.519
Look, I cannot even begin to
argue with or know what everybody's strategy

442
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.599
is with these things anymore. I
give up. So you could be very

443
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.519
very right, or you know what, Jimmy James might have a different view

444
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.800
on it. He's waiting on the
line. Okay, we'll go to him

445
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:54.760
in a second. But obviously Peter
Popov picked a peck of barracle water and

446
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.960
it was good. I mean it
says that in the Bible unless I'm mistake,

447
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:01.760
and like it doesn't say that in
the commercial. But I could have

448
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:06.360
swore. These people in the commercial
were like, I drank the water and

449
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:13.079
I got these checks. I'm very
sure. Maybe I was tired, and

450
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.599
I tell you, you know,
dizzy from staring at these cool coins because

451
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:21.519
they're remaking the Morgan Dollar and the
Peace Dollar, and they're putting them out

452
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.119
there like we have these brand new
silver coins. You can buy them straight

453
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:28.360
from the you know, and and
I like silver coins, so I was

454
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.239
looking at it, and I'm like, okay, and then the next thing

455
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.320
I know is getting hit with drink
the miracle water, you know, and

456
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.639
I'm like, okay. It was
probably like three four in the morning.

457
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:44.400
Anyhow, I'm sorry, I totally
derailed this whole conversation. But creative access,

458
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:50.880
what's uncle to rate? Well,
you can apparently he'll send it to

459
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.280
you for free. The link I
just gave you there you could get a

460
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.920
free bag of miracle water sent to
you. Oh wow, what a deal.

461
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.880
I'm just telling you, what what's
the catch to that one? I

462
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.119
don't know know? There is one
I don't know. It says you enter

463
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:07.559
your prayer information, all that,
and then they'll send you this miracle water

464
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:12.079
if you give me your address.
That's what it says. I think.

465
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.679
I think I'll go with the mineral
springs water at Isaac Strode if I can

466
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:20.199
ever make it back there. I
think that's gonna be my personal mineral mineral

467
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:25.519
water. I think a good old
Curtis Springer I go. He seems right

468
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:29.960
to me. I go locally to
the Creek Indians because they have a sacred

469
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.480
spring and you can go there.
They let you fill up your bottles of

470
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.639
water if you want, you know, for nothing, you can just go

471
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:40.400
there and do that. And it's
you know, the water is filled with

472
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.800
minerals and it it actually is good. It's just you know, straight natural

473
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:50.960
spring. Oh yeah, there's there's
one like that up off of but what

474
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.440
is it. It's it's this road
that goes up into the mountains you go

475
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:58.800
into Azusa, I think it's the
thirty nine Highway goes up into the mountain

476
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:00.800
and you pull off a the side
of the road when you're pretty high up

477
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.320
and just water. There's like a
little mini waterfall right and rocks and you

478
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.480
put your water bottle up to it
and the water is possible and it's it's

479
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:13.159
it's great. It's like cold.
It's it's like the best water you've ever

480
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.079
drank. It's good, so good. The Creek Indian things, same thing.

481
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.239
It's cold. It's already you know, even on a hot day,

482
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:21.960
it's cold. All that. You
know what, I got that Peter Popov

483
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.639
commercial. Let me see if it
makes me play another commercial, we can

484
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:27.480
Oh, it's gonna make me play
hang on it. We're not going to

485
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.920
play whatever this other craft commercial is
along with Get Ourselves in trouble that way

486
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:36.239
secure site through Wick. What about
let's go, let's go to colder.

487
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.119
Should we go to short faith now
by calling for your free packet of miracle

488
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:45.039
spring water? Hang on a second, here we go anyway. My husband

489
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.079
brought the spring water, but I
drank it, and I'm speaking today.

490
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.639
I had no speech, don't part
and now I'm testifying. You have sent

491
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:53.400
me the water and I used it. If you told me I was going

492
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:58.440
to get a check for seven thousand
dollars, so I got a check in

493
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:02.639
the middle it was exactly seven thousand
dollars. This faith tool will help you

494
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:08.400
to see liberation from the bondage of
d free. I want to send it

495
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:15.039
to you, no obligation, Okay, I told you. See Now,

496
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.000
I flipped through the commercial and I
found the lady with the seven thousand.

497
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.440
But she's not the only one.
She says seven grand. Somebody else said

498
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:27.000
they got many checks. Oh in
this commercial. I got three four checks.

499
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.840
And what a deal you're getting chicks
like, Look, all I got

500
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:32.079
to do is drink a bag of
water and people are gonna start sending me

501
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.360
checks for thousands of dollars. I
mean, I'm in ellly, Yeah,

502
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.800
yeah, it's you know, it
sounds good. Sure, Okay, I

503
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.639
just I wanted to prove that I
wasn't crazy because I'm sitting there going wait

504
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:46.920
a minute, it says don't drink
it, But meanwhile, that lady said

505
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:52.119
she drank it, right, I
do you know why? It wasn't even

506
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:53.760
paying attention. I'm to see what
the hell she did with it. I

507
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.960
just heard the seven thousand dollars check
and say, okay, well, I

508
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.000
don't know. At least I'm partially
right then. Anyway, I'll shut up

509
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.320
now, and if you want to
do whatever you want to do, is

510
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.960
you're showing me the hijacket. Nah, No, I mean, I mean

511
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:15.840
we're talking about black cats and sycosis
and things, televangelists, televangelists and all

512
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.679
that good guys with funny hats,
all that kind of stuff. So you

513
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.719
know, anything goes tonight with that. Let's go to the phone lines.

514
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:35.400
Okay, caller, you're on the
air. Wow, that's really weird because

515
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:39.199
I used to there's this guy named
Peter pop Off. He used to send

516
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:47.400
me checks to pee and bags.
James Cora, it all makes sense.

517
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.119
He Wait a minute, there was
this guy named Peter popwom used to send

518
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:55.079
me bags to pee and then I
would mail that nice. In other words,

519
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.440
if you got the miracle spring water, you might have gotten Jimmy James,

520
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.599
miracles ringwater got you. Okay,
yeah, that's it's all coming together

521
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.960
now now it actually makes sense.
Now it's beginning to make sense. So

522
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:13.400
you're you're blessed in this way,
Jimmy James. Well, I feel cheap

523
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.440
that I didn't get no seven thousand
dollars checks. I got like three dollar

524
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:21.599
checks. So it only costs three
bucks for you to pee in a bag.

525
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:28.000
You know, you could probably make
a better living in some places and

526
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:37.559
three dollars a bag. Yeah,
they're odd profits up. Look, you

527
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:43.840
used if you use the facilities,
you just throw money away. That's what

528
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:50.639
due to Papa told me. Enough. So that's that's the other end of

529
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.800
his business that you don't hear about
on the commercial. Okay, we can

530
00:42:53.920 --> 00:43:00.320
insider information here. This is an
exclusive you're to hear first breaking news.

531
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:01.559
Well I didn't, Hey, I
didn't play the whole commercial. No way,

532
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:07.760
no coracle. Real people with real
needs are receiving real life changing miracles

533
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:12.920
when they used the miracle spring water. My husband brought the spring water,

534
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.000
and I drank it, and I'm
speaking today. I had no speech,

535
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.679
totally paralyzed, and now I'm testified. You have sent me the water and

536
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.280
I used it. You told me
I was going to get a check for

537
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.800
seven thousand dollars. Sure enough,
I got a check in the mill.

538
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.280
It was exactly seven thousand dollars.
This faith tool will help you to see

539
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:37.039
liberation from the bondage of that spring. I want to send it to you,

540
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.920
no appligation to call me. When
you told me to annoint my check

541
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.239
book. Yesterday I received a letter
from over forty five thousand dollars to my

542
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.840
second words was people, get the
spring water. Drink the spring water,

543
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.239
or whatever is you need to do. But it really works to see.

544
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.480
Now, no, wait a minute. Now the way said drink The first

545
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:59.639
woman said she drank it for sure, yes, and now this other woman

546
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:07.159
said the other way. Annoy kept
hearing is that they kept saying I used

547
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:12.119
it. I didn't hear anyone specifically
saved drink. Oh yeah, first woman

548
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.360
did. Hold on, the first
woman did, and this one did.

549
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:15.280
Here hold on, Jimmy James,
I'll play for you, all right,

550
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:21.119
drink the spring water or wherever here
brought one more time. Second work just

551
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.280
pep off, get the spring water, drink the spring water or whatever.

552
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:29.079
See drink the spring water or whatever
you gotta do with it. The other

553
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:35.519
way, that lady definitely said drink. Yeah, yeah, she said whatever

554
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.480
it takes, basically, And there
was do what you gotta do, even

555
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.199
though it says not to. If
you have to, you got it.

556
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.400
And the one woman that looks like
she want me ask you this, the

557
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.480
one woman that looks like she might
be cousin. Sorry, the one woman

558
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.480
that said she looks like she might
be Sharre's cousin over there. That one

559
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.199
said to anoint her check book with
it. That's what she did. Let's

560
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:59.119
see if there's any other instructions before
we get to your comment, Jimmy James,

561
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.480
hold on net to do with it? It really works. Release your

562
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:07.280
faith now by calling for your free
packet of miracle springwater. It's free just

563
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:13.599
for calling. Okay, there was
no other instructions there. I just wanted

564
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:19.559
to see if there was. Go
ahead, Jimmy James. Sorry, well,

565
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:28.239
I was just thinking in defense of
pet Peter Papa, how would this

566
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:36.960
be any different than physicians prescribing placibos. Aren't they both basically doing the same

567
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.159
effect for the same reason. Oh, I don't care that he's doing it.

568
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.960
I just point out that it's just
you know. But like I said,

569
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:46.440
lady says, I drink the springwater. I got my money. I

570
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:51.480
got the one said forty five thousand. That was a lot paid over second

571
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:55.159
mortgage. Nice, which do whatever
you had to do, get it.

572
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.760
I get it now. Not bad. By the way, his uncle's guest

573
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:05.119
is the I think maybe uncle's guest
might be on the line because we have

574
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.880
another caller, and I'm thinking that
might be all those guests. I don't

575
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:15.920
know. Why can you tell if
it's in Texas? If the answer is

576
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.400
yes, then that should be who
that is. And if so for seven

577
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.000
nine area code, hang on a
second, let me let me find out

578
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.119
where the four seven nine area code
is and you can keep talking to Jimmy.

579
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.239
All right, okay, okay,
yeah, yeah yeah. If so,

580
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:29.960
I'll just say briefly thank you,
guests, and hang in there.

581
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.679
We'll be switching over here as the
alur turns over and we will be going

582
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.039
right to you, and I'm looking
forward to that. But in the meantime,

583
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.800
Jimmy, are you doing okay?
Man? You were away for a

584
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:46.719
week and you feeling okay? I
hope? Uh well, I wasn't yesterday

585
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:55.719
and I could uh a lot burger
today. Good looks like arkansaw Aaron Arkin,

586
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:04.960
Arkansas? Bill? Let's uh okay. In that case, it may

587
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.719
be the guest, but that's all
right. Let's go to the caller.

588
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:12.639
We're gonna go to the caller and
see. So let's here, so new

589
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.159
caller. Yep, you are on
the air. Hello. What's your name?

590
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:22.239
And are you calling from Arkansas?
Actually I'm calling from Houston, Texas.

591
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.519
I have an Arkansas cell phone.
There you go, I thought maybe

592
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:35.880
yep. Yeah, Arkansas was the
location of the Canavial of the ozarks By

593
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.760
compound up there until I sold it. Got it? Got it? All

594
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:42.639
right? Cool? This is the
guest for Uncle show. Yeah, yes,

595
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.440
yes, this is William correct.
You can call me Bill, Bill,

596
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.960
Okay, Bill, all right,
Bill. Well, it's great to

597
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.360
have you on. Do you want
to hang on for five minutes and we'll

598
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:58.400
go to you and you will be
the guest. Sure, cool, cool,

599
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.760
we'll be back to you. Man, Just hold hold on there,

600
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.519
and I can't wait to talk to
you man. Thank you for coming on

601
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:06.559
the show tonight. Yes, I'm
gonna put William on hold or Bill.

602
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:08.719
Sorry, I don't know if he
wants me to call. Maybe I don't

603
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:13.639
have the invitation. We'll put William
on hold. Jimmy James is back on

604
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:17.880
the line with you though. All
right, what's going on? Jimmy?

605
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:24.800
You feeling okay? Oh? Yeah, well I'm feeling well. Let me

606
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:30.199
ask you this what what what hits
you in the gut? Worse? Bull

607
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:37.559
from Night Court? Dang or Chandler
from Friends? Oh there's a tribune?

608
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:44.440
Uh yeah, I know that Matthew
Perry just did die yesterday, Danny in

609
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:49.480
his in La. I think he
was right here. So and Bull from

610
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.559
Night Court passed away on Friday.
I think he did. Okay, See

611
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:58.400
I didn't even know that, so
I has to by default the answer is

612
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.000
Matthew Perry because I didn't know about
that other one. Well, let me

613
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:04.360
ask you this there and real quick. Are you into the impression that Bull

614
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.119
died years ago? Yeah? I
thought that he did. Now when you

615
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:08.920
mentioned that, I thought, I
was like, oh yeah, remember when

616
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:12.960
he did. This is comparable because
it's another TV guy, right, that's

617
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.199
what I was thinking. Yeah,
but no, he just died on Friday.

618
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.920
But apparently there was a false report
of him dying some years ago,

619
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:24.559
So it's not a Mandela thing.
It was a false report some years ago

620
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:31.000
of Richard mal dying. Interesting.
Yeah, yeah, I thought he died

621
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:35.039
ten years ago. Me too.
That was the thing. I was like,

622
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.639
wait a minute, didn't he isn't
he already dead? While Yeah,

623
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.280
yeah, but no, it turns
out there was some big false report that

624
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.880
came out. But because I was
double checking it live on the Friday Show,

625
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.039
let me ask you this. In
my world, Dan Fielding also died

626
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.400
a few years ago, and yet
he's going to be on the new night

627
00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:05.480
Report. So he's apparently not you
mean John Lawrope yet yeah? Oh yeah,

628
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:07.320
yeah, yeah, he's still around. Wasn't even aware of his status.

629
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.599
Actually, John Lowell kid, they're
making a new night Court for sure,

630
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:20.679
now, huh yeah, well maybe
less like Clean all the Bulls team.

631
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.559
But I don't think they necessarily needed
Well for night Court, right,

632
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:31.719
I mean, well, he was
kind of the most beloved guy on the

633
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:36.239
original show, and I think he
was going to be involved with it.

634
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:38.880
Well, it would have made sense
if he made some cameos or whatever.

635
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:49.800
But yeah, yeah, well,
I was just gonna say I read the

636
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:53.519
Dan that guy's gonna go back and
play Dan Fielding as a I's weird.

637
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:58.119
I thought he was dead too.
Yeah. No, he's still alive.

638
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:06.719
Apparently he started his acting career in
nineteen seventy four, so notable credits the

639
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:08.480
John la Roquette Show at one point, and a matter of fact, he's

640
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.639
in the movie JFK. If you
if you remember in the director's cut,

641
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:19.639
you remember that Jimmy James. No, no, who did he play?

642
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.440
I don't remember him in there?
Oh yeah, he plays the like the

643
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:31.440
Johnny Carson esque character, the one. Okay, yeah, I guess I

644
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.960
yeah, he's the talk show guy
that you know, kind of ambushes or

645
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:44.440
sandbags Garrison on TV. And it's
John la Roquette like playing the Johnny Carson

646
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.320
esque character. Because they couldn't do
a full on Carson. They would have

647
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:51.119
sued the crap at him. Even
though it was a real thing that happened,

648
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:59.519
he was still in charge, still
the show going. He still had

649
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.880
enough to cause big problems for somebody
in the early nineties. Johnny Carson.

650
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:08.719
Yeah, sure, that's funny uncle, and I watched Johnny Carson on VHS

651
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:13.760
tape yesterday. How about that?
I was wondering if you had a VHS

652
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:17.000
to that because there were tons of
those best of the Carson Show tapes that

653
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:20.760
were sold by Yes. Yes,
it was one of those that we watched.

654
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:22.119
It was only half an hour long
and it had some of those like

655
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.719
animal clips was all it was.
It was, ye, a half hour

656
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:29.880
tape. That's the crazy thing is
they put together those boxes of like twenty

657
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.400
VHS tapes, right, They're all
like a half hour long, and so

658
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.679
that you get like one or two
a month to try and fill out your

659
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.360
collection. You got a subscription,
yes, yeah, so it was back

660
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.039
in the days of like say Columbia
House, where you know, you paid

661
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:46.760
way too much for a freaking album
and stuff like that. But also the

662
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.800
time Life series, the books everything
you get stuff in a series. So

663
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.360
the Johnny Carson was and was like, will send you two tapes this month.

664
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:58.679
You know, I had a special
introductory price of nine to ninety nine,

665
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.239
and then you passed twenty dollars every
month and you'll get a brand new

666
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:07.280
Carson. Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, that's for sure. What that was

667
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:08.840
then, because that's all it was, was a half an hour just animal

668
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.440
clips. It's on. It's ever. It was weird. It was released

669
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:17.119
in the year two thousand. Yeah. I love finding stuff like that at

670
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.719
broad sales or flea markets. It's
like, oh wow, look at that.

671
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:23.280
That was part of the Time Life
series of whatever. You know.

672
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:29.599
They did everything from creepy stories to
uh, you know, how to fix

673
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:34.239
your house to uh, you know, everything a video and book form of

674
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.159
just about anything you could think of. Time like that series. Yeah,

675
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:43.280
we were World War two. They've
done DHS. Yeah, it was World

676
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:46.400
War Two, and then after they
did the first World War two set and

677
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:50.760
that was about done with its run. Then they came back out World War

678
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.880
Two in color. Yeah. That
was the big thing because you know,

679
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.840
people are like, oh, there's
no color film. There's plenty of color

680
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.599
film around in World War Two.
It just wasn't used commonly. So there

681
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:07.440
was plenty of opportunity for there to
be color film, but it was a

682
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.199
little more rare and it's use.
So most of what you used to see

683
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.159
on World War Two was in black
and white. And then they were like,

684
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:19.400
now we have it in color.
So yeah, well I think with

685
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:22.679
this, it's a perfect segue to
the Uncle Show. I think we'll just

686
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:24.480
go to that now, because you
know, we got the guest here and

687
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:29.559
all that, and we're ready to
go, so I think we can close

688
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:34.400
the book on this black Cat edition
of the Age of Transitions. There you

689
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.760
go so big times that. Jimmy
James for calling in, and I'll shut

690
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:39.960
up and put you on hold.
Jimmy. We'll see what we're gonna do

691
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.360
with the second hour. But we
know we have a guest coming up,

692
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.679
So enough out of me. Aaron, you go ahead and handle your business

693
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:50.760
here for the last minute or two, and we'll have an even hour for

694
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:55.480
the Age of Transitions and we'll be
transitioning into Uncle the broadcast. Yeah,

695
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:00.000
oh yes, this is the Age
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696
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704
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on the aera of Jelly dot com. Do not necessarily reflect he views of

705
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.000
Jilly dot com or Chuck Chilly,
and we are not responsible for any stupidity

706
00:56:17.039 --> 00:58:31.880
which might issue. Thank you,
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707
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:38.199
Morning, morning morning. This is
a Moneyseye podcast. Co wat go,

708
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:44.400
wait on go wait here we pick
up till I tank your cellphones and HI

709
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:52.119
may listen to Uncle the podcast.
Watch out if you're sitting down for this

710
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.800
or if you're standing up the batter
got ready for this because it's gonna hit

711
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:06.480
the head head drum. I'll go
to the podcast. You are listening to

712
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:07.960
Uncle the broadcast. My name is
Aaron. I'm the nephew in law.

713
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:13.000
Here is the starting show, Uncle. It is Comedy Our People, three

714
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:19.559
hundred and fourteenth episode. This is
the comedy hour, No Business, His

715
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:27.320
business show Business Uncle, not your
business is out this hour. I know.

716
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.079
Oh my guest number one. Let's
see who this guess is. I've

717
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:35.719
been trying to figure it out who
it was. We do have a guest,

718
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.599
I'm asking the guest man, you
calm down, okay, side kick,

719
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:44.840
uncle, your mission is to ask
the guest. Guess what am I

720
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:46.519
asking? Well, I don't know. You seem so sure of it.

721
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:52.559
A second ago to say who's on
in mine? And who's a guest for

722
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:57.320
tonight? That's what I was trying
to say. Okay, all right,

723
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:04.559
Hello, I'm here. My name
is Bill Virick. I'm the owner and

724
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.840
builder of the Many nine oh five
art car, which has a nine foot

725
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:13.000
space shuttle on top. When do
you think of that? Uncle? This

726
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.480
is a guy who has a Mini
Cooper? Is his car? Really confused?

727
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:20.559
And on top on top of his
car is a miniature space shuttle.

728
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.159
Wait, I've seen pictures on people
social media this thing I know I have

729
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.960
with the space shuttle on top of
the car. Yeah, you know we're

730
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:38.400
watching these videos. I guess we're
we're watching these videos and the one was

731
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:45.159
making making cars. We were we
didn't watch one of those like that,

732
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:52.599
And I was wondering if you knew
anything about that kind of thing, low

733
01:00:52.679 --> 01:01:00.519
guests, about making cars, Yeah, making art cars or just makeing like

734
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:07.920
assembly line vehicle production bill they hand, they hand a production of the cause

735
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:13.400
to be built, and as there
was the kids, it was the kids

736
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:17.079
looking at it. You're talking about
making special cars, uncle, right,

737
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:20.880
like this one with the Space Shuttle
on it. How much does he know

738
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:22.840
about making custom cars? Is that
what you're asking? Yeah, customer,

739
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:29.119
Yeah, that's a customer cause.
Okay, yeah. So Houston has a

740
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:32.519
huge art car movement. And while
I've been to art car events all over

741
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:37.760
the country in my first art car
and then also this current one, Houston

742
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.360
is the largest. Houston has about
two hundred and eighty entries each year.

743
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:49.440
So it's a really big parade of
really eclectic cars, all embellished way beyond

744
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:53.280
the mundane, and it attracts three
hundred thousand spectators every year. It's huge.

745
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:59.519
Okay, well built. I'm showing
uncle the pictures of your car right

746
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.440
now. So you see this,
uncle, Yeah, see that it's a

747
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:08.440
Mini Cooper club Man and on the
roof is look, it's it's a Now

748
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:14.159
is that a scale version of a
Space Shuttle? Bill? It is pretty

749
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:21.480
accurate, about one twelfth one thirteenth
scale. And you know, as a

750
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:25.599
kid, I built plastic model.
Kids. I built every different Space shuttle

751
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:30.280
model that was out there. This
is just a little bit okay, yeah,

752
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:36.599
press construction because it's outdoors in the
elements all the time. Believe it

753
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:38.840
or not. It won't fit in
the garage. It won't because you have

754
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:44.800
that thing on the top and it
doesn't fit the type because it don't hand

755
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.880
the room right. Tall, right, that's what I meant. It's ninety

756
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:52.880
tall. It won't go through a
car wash in the garage. Man.

757
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:59.119
That means you can't wash it either. It's a handler. Yeah, that's

758
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.880
my hand, and it takes it
takes two hours because you're it's like washing

759
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:08.159
two cars. Oh sure, sure, got it, got it? Whoa

760
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:14.199
nice uncle? What do you think
of this? What? What has What

761
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:15.760
do you think that Bill has got
himself into? You think this is a

762
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:19.840
great thing? Or you think like
he's is he making too much work for

763
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:23.599
himself having to wash such a car? Or is making an interesting thing in

764
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:30.960
something? It's interesting? Right?
Yeah? And maybe maybe in the future,

765
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:36.920
maybe if you decided to want to
do something like this, make it

766
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:43.559
for the people like these electricas,
Oh, go to the assembly line round

767
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:47.679
like start producing these things. That's
what I was asking him. Yeah,

768
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:52.519
I actually make Christine. I lived
in clear Lake, south of Houston,

769
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:59.599
which is right where Johnson's Center is
the man Space Center man Flight Space Center.

770
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:03.679
So I need a lot of interesting
astronauts and engineers, and usually they're

771
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:08.719
family members. They want to tell
me all about their involvement in the space

772
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:13.159
Shuttle program because they all worked on
it. And so I meet a lot

773
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.239
of interesting people. But you know, I hand out a lot of postcards,

774
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:19.639
a lot of stickers to kids.
I do you know. I've done

775
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:26.519
parades, I've done car shows.
I was at the wings Over Houston air

776
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:31.199
Show two weekends ago, and I
did a little fall festival yesterday. I

777
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.039
like to tell people, you know, I'll do weddings all the barnments as

778
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:38.800
if I if you want me to. Yeah, now, if I'm not

779
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:44.079
mistaken, I believe our friend Crazy
Accidents met Bill at the air show.

780
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:47.760
He just mentioned that you have met
I think you met a listener of ours.

781
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:56.840
He never talks on the phone,
but buy I think so yeah,

782
01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:01.800
yeah, so so that's that's that's
right. We got we got a referral,

783
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.920
so we're glad to have that.
And yeah, it's an air show.

784
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:10.480
I mean it makes sense that an
air show it's got the Space Shuttle

785
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:18.320
is air and space. Okay,
it's actually it also sounds like it also

786
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:24.679
has a know how, we have
a of shows every couple of years on

787
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:30.800
airplanes. It'd be something like that, exactly like that, that's actually like

788
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:36.880
that, exactly exactly like Ellington Air
Force Base where the Space Shuttle when it

789
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:45.239
was being ferried from California back to
Florida, California, they had to get

790
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:49.280
the shuttle back to Florida. It
would land in Houston and refuel at Ellington

791
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:55.119
Air Force Base where this air show
took place. It was a familiar sight

792
01:05:55.199 --> 01:06:00.159
for everyone there, a local legend. No less, you know how you

793
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:04.119
know how when they take off with
the rock right, Oh yeah, it

794
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:11.159
starts in Florida, it goes to
California, then they refuse, it goes

795
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:15.440
back to Florida to get a new
getting another one show up. I think

796
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:21.039
that's how it's it's licking you,
okay, you like a U shape.

797
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:26.039
It goes up, it goes to
the upward part of the atmosphere, it

798
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:30.599
turns back around and comes down to
almost back down on to us side,

799
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:36.719
making a U shaped shake. That's
how it works, is it. No?

800
01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:42.239
No, well that's how well,
that's how they would good space shadow

801
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.280
people. Sometimes it seems that way. That's how the wood. Okay,

802
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:48.760
So I I put a picture of
the the Mini Cooper with the shuttle on

803
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:53.480
top of it in the chatroom at
ochelly dot com for people to see,

804
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:56.840
uh in case you know, you're
not able to visualize it out there.

805
01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:58.800
This way you can take a look
at it. You click on it,

806
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.320
you can see it. Yeah,
it's got the blue stripe on the side.

807
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:05.800
What what is on that blue stripe
there? Bill? Okay, that's

808
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:10.719
that's the cheap stripe. The car
is actually emulating the seven forty seven that

809
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:18.719
ferried the shuttles back from California.
Okay, that's the actual jet. The

810
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:26.840
seventh shuttles is at Space Center Houston, which is the visitors center for Johnson

811
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.239
Space Center here in Houston. So
that is on display with a shuttle on

812
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:35.159
top of it. And I've got
some really nice pictures on the website of

813
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:44.239
the car in that in that plaza. And so yeah, the car,

814
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.800
the car looks exactly like it excepted
to Mini Cooper. Got it. That's

815
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:50.920
the line, it's it looks like
the jet. That's good. I like

816
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:56.599
it. I like a true art
car. It's it's a replica. So

817
01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:00.360
this is this falls into I guess
if you're to cat your eyes art cars,

818
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:05.159
this would be like a replica of
sorts, like it's a modified replica

819
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:12.480
of the jet carrying the Shuttle's that
right? Right? So I think most

820
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:18.239
art would agree. We don't like
to be categorized, all right, So

821
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:21.600
I'm putting a picture. I'm putting
a picture of the actual plane in the

822
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:27.359
chatroom mittochelly dot com for people to
follow along a picture of the plane that

823
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.880
this is emulating. And what is
what is your website? Because you said

824
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:34.560
you have the stuff up on your
website. What's the web address? Yeah?

825
01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:40.680
The website actually goes through the entire
build and it also gives a brief

826
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:44.319
history of my first art car,
which was the entire car was a Space

827
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.720
Shuttle. It was the Shuttle band. It had a seventeen fog machine and

828
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:54.119
I toured all over the country and
that about ten years ago, well fifteen

829
01:08:54.239 --> 01:09:00.199
years ago. So it is homemade
Space Shuttle dot org. Oh wow,

830
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:05.760
I'm going there right now. Homemade
Oh yeah, yeah, Here it goes

831
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:09.840
it's popping up. Oh yeah,
I see it. Okay. Cool.

832
01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:17.359
Here on that homepage you can click
through any of those chapters, but the

833
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:21.239
build goes through the building of that
space, of the space shuttle that's currently

834
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:27.479
on my car, on every step
of the process, every mistake I made,

835
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.000
you know, starting from cocktail napkin
sketch, which is where every good

836
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:36.000
idea comes from, all the way
through putting in. It was originally on

837
01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:41.800
a many Countryman that was kind of
that rust color. So the car was

838
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:45.880
the external tank of a lost stack
and that's how it rolled in its first

839
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:50.079
parade. And I since replaced that
Countryman with a three hundred horsepower Clubman,

840
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:58.479
which is terrifying, but and then
turned it into the plane instead. Got

841
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.800
it. Yeah, And I am
looking at the old van that you had

842
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:04.840
that looked like the shuttle. That's
cool. I'm definitely into that. Yes,

843
01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:09.039
it looks like it's a lot of
fun. There's like smoke coming out

844
01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:13.000
of it. What is that.
I had a seventeen hunderd rock fog machine

845
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:17.359
built into it with big old boat
batteries inside. People hated being behind and

846
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:24.640
parades because I make their car disappear
with the smoke. Of course it was

847
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:32.119
Bill a tennis court chest deep in
a minute, so bottom ofall seventeen under

848
01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:38.680
rock fog like six times bigger than
what DJ's does in a club. So

849
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:43.880
anyway, and outdoors, it's really
has a really different effect. But that

850
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:46.600
I drove that around. I put
fifty thousand miles on it as an art

851
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:53.079
car, but it was a Christler
product. It's no longer living. Okay,

852
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.319
Yeah, I got it, and
I will apologize for earlier. Bill,

853
01:10:57.439 --> 01:11:00.680
you said that art car enthusiasts don't
want to be your eyes. I'd

854
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.840
say that you're in good company because
same thing with this podcast. I think

855
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:09.560
some people tend to categorize podcast.
But good luck if you want to categorize

856
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:13.319
Uncle the podcast, because I don't
think the good luck. That's all I

857
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:16.159
gotta tell you. Yeah, I
produce the thing, and I gotta tell

858
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:18.560
you all the time. People go
what is Uncle? And I go,

859
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:23.640
well, I can't explain it.
You produce it. How long you've been

860
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:27.920
produced it, six seven years,
You can't explain it. Nope, I

861
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:31.560
gotta hear it for yourself. That's
we'll just we'll just call it do.

862
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:36.079
All I do is have a comedy
show whoever wanted to speak. Yeah,

863
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:42.079
with comedy on it, and I'm
plain and simple and let him speak it.

864
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:45.560
You listen. Yeah, they want
one. That's that's that's mine.

865
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:50.520
I understand. But if I say
that they want more? Sorry? Good?

866
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.640
Here you go ahead, Bill?
What are you saying? What are

867
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:57.880
you saying? Bill? God sake, don't box me in? There you

868
01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:00.479
go? There we go. I
like it. I like that. Uh,

869
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.640
credo there, Bill? So yeah, that's cool. Would you agree

870
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:05.920
with that? Uncle? Do you
feel that way? Do you feel that

871
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:12.079
way? Right? I'm wanted to
push in. I guess online they have

872
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:17.920
speaking to speak. It's a world
country. Well to speak on my show.

873
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:24.640
We're all we have to do is
you want to speak and he talks.

874
01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:29.520
We're real First Amendment enthusiasts. You
might say, yeah, that's that's

875
01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:32.720
what we are. I was trying
to figure out the world. Bill at

876
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:35.199
the balls in your clerk. First
Amendment? Here, What do you got

877
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:40.840
for us? How do you want
to use it? How do you choose

878
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:45.600
to use how do you choose to
use the white lod He's finally learning on

879
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.960
this way. I'm a firm believer
in free speech, and I'm also a

880
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:55.479
firm believer and do no harm.
There we go. Okay, we're getting

881
01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:00.760
philosophical with our guests today. I
know you don't mind the moment. Guess

882
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:04.479
we Bill have to get Jimmy back
on the line. Oh yeah, we

883
01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:06.760
do have a car. I know
why. I mean, I mean,

884
01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:11.920
man by Jimmy up there, all
right. I didn't because you had noo

885
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:15.760
this conversation. And when I get
into a guest, I lose control.

886
01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:19.560
And he's a good guest. So
Jimmy on, just throw me. Jimmy

887
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:25.680
speak up. Now. The guests
were rarity, Yeah they are. They

888
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:31.079
are rare because I let them take
over the Joe. I tackle them,

889
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:36.039
but uh, I let them talk
and then I forget. Sometimes on the

890
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:40.159
other line, there's another line waiting. We do have a call line.

891
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:45.039
We have a cool liner and Jimmy's
on that. Yeah, and anybody else

892
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:49.000
could call, and anyone else can
call in. The number is speak It's

893
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:55.720
three one nine seven five zero one
six. Join us guest Bill here.

894
01:13:55.840 --> 01:14:00.000
He is an art car creator.
He's created a space shuttle, our car.

895
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:02.680
If you have questions for him,
it'd be great. All right,

896
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.680
Now we have a caller. We
think it's Jimmy we're gonna go to him

897
01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:11.840
right now, caller, you're on
the line, on line Jim, he

898
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:16.600
did not. Oh uncle, uh, you gotta do something about those rams.

899
01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:24.880
They went lost to the cow girls. Cowgirls. He goes, listen

900
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:30.039
here, I was in a separate
pool. Things are straightened out. Side

901
01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:33.359
kick here, how to pick the
team properly, I learned. But his

902
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:41.840
wife gets in my way. I'm
trying to trying to get it straight.

903
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:48.760
Of course, though if he if, if he would have took then for

904
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:57.319
today, we wouldn't have this Monday
night check numbers. He would have completely

905
01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:00.079
won it. The short version of
the story is I should have listened you,

906
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.039
uncle. I didn't. That's what
my point in trying to tell you.

907
01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:06.800
So don't listen to your wife.
Don't with this, with this,

908
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.640
with the I don't know if I
have a choice, Uncle, you have

909
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:16.439
a choice. Listen to me saying
who to pay? So when everybody picks

910
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:21.239
a team, go to the opposite
way. That's that's the role. That's

911
01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:26.119
the wood antionomian. Who won?
Did you see who wanted? Though?

912
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:31.279
Didn't you see who who won it? I did took those chiefs right out

913
01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:34.600
of it. I can't argue with
you. That's what my point is.

914
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:39.279
Jimmy, do you have me Do
you have a question for Bill? A

915
01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:44.720
space shuttle car? Look at the
pictures of the of the shuttle on top

916
01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:46.039
of the car. It's pretty cool. I put in the chat room.

917
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:51.520
Uh, Jimmy, Yeah, Well
I have a question. Oh wait,

918
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:59.880
there's a picture. Yea. Actually
my question is just are you knowledgeable about

919
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:04.439
the actual space shuttles? Yeah?
I really am, because I've done a

920
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:09.399
lot of research and I'm a NASA
geeky anyway. People always ask me if

921
01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:11.840
I work at NATHA and I say
no, I'm just a fan. But

922
01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:15.319
I've done an awful lot of so
I end up talking to people a lot.

923
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:19.760
Like I said was saying before,
I meet a lot of astronauts and

924
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:25.319
engineers to tell me about what they
did on the shuttles. But yeah,

925
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:30.720
I've got a pretty good like Layman's
knowledge of the operation of the shuttle.

926
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:35.039
I've got the full spec sheets on
it. I'm kind of a nerd.

927
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:44.760
It's a new show. That's cool. That's good. Do you have questions

928
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:50.279
specific to shuttles? Well, it's
more of an above question. Everyone's eyes.

929
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:57.560
You've heard, dudes, you've heard
these Moon deniers that we never went

930
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.720
to the moon. Bub buh buh, and they bring up brought the power,

931
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:10.600
but they don't understand how nasty utilize
our atmosphere. Just swing the dim

932
01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:19.520
thing. Do you know about that? Build the sling factor of Earth's atmosphere,

933
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:26.439
which actually was at play for the
Moon the Apollo Moon mission. I

934
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:32.640
think any of this they launched out
of the atmosphere. The atmosphere was utilized

935
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:39.079
on return on the return trip just
to decelerate in the same way shuttles accelerated.

936
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:43.840
Because you know things are when things
are coming back, especially all the

937
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:46.720
way from the Moon, they're coming
back at a pretty fair clip, so

938
01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:55.159
they use the sphere to slow it
down just by uh, by friction alone.

939
01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:57.680
But because of that, you have
to have a hell of a heat

940
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:02.439
shield otherwise you're just kind of cooked
your crew and any of the any of

941
01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:11.079
your samples that you're bringing back.
The slingshot effect was what they used to

942
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:15.359
get around the Moon to get back
to Earth, But we really don't have

943
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:19.880
much of a slingshot effect through the
atmosphere because it's dense. It's denser than

944
01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:27.000
empty space, so in empty space
you're usually you're when they talk about slingshot

945
01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:30.880
effect. They're talking about gravitational tugs, so you'd fall into an orbit and

946
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:38.600
then slingshot around a body like the
Moon. Or when we did the Voyager

947
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:45.640
probes back in the seventies, they
slingshot it around Jupiter and then Saturn to

948
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:48.399
throw them out to the further planets. And it was really remarkable that they

949
01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:51.960
were able to do that, because
that was a perfect alignment at that point

950
01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:57.000
in time of the outer planets for
them to slingshot around each of them.

951
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.720
And you know, boys, you're
still sending us messages back from one point

952
01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:08.760
three trillion miles away or something.
Yeah, it takes a while to relay

953
01:19:08.840 --> 01:19:13.479
that sort of kind of thing to
Yep. Well, I don't know about

954
01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:15.439
anybody else, but I'm learning a
lot. How about you, uncle,

955
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:19.720
I'm leaning what a bit and I'm
talking just listening and taking him from what

956
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:24.760
he's talking about. See, when
I do I guess, I let him

957
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:29.159
take the show and I listen.
That's how you do it with guests.

958
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:33.079
You learned something's that kick? I
maybe when you get a guess on your

959
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:40.039
show, Okay, you let them
talk and then you loan some Wow.

960
01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:45.439
Is that easy? Isn't anybody I
forget step all over their own words and

961
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:51.479
then everyone can laugh at them.
You know you could they wanted they want

962
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:56.000
it's a comedy because it's a comedy
show. Yeah, it rules a serious

963
01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:59.800
problem, right, look at this
shoe. I do have serious problems.

964
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.199
Hey, no show. Even if
he doesn't have a show, he's got

965
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:10.520
serious problems over there. But but
we don't have that much time. Uncle,

966
01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:15.119
let me get to this question.
I go mean going quick. If

967
01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:17.039
we want to listen, no,
if we want to list all his problems,

968
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:18.880
We're going to be here all night. Bill's not going to get a

969
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:24.239
chance to talk, right, That's
why he's talking right, So anyway,

970
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:27.479
I'm not saying so here here's the
question. I wanted to give a chance

971
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.479
for Bill to talk about this because
I think it'll be very cool. Now

972
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:34.359
it's not comedy. But what gave
you the idea to do this? Like?

973
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:38.920
Where where is the beginning of this
idea? Like what possessed you to

974
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:41.760
decide? Because there's a lot of
things you could have done artistically, a

975
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:44.680
lot of different things you could have
done with the car? Why this,

976
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:48.439
exactly why did you choose to do
this? Well, I'll tell you the

977
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:53.760
Initially, when I was when I
had that Mini Van, I was looking

978
01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:56.039
at it and I knew I was
going to make an art car out of

979
01:20:56.119 --> 01:21:00.319
it. But at the time,
this would have been say two thousand six,

980
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:03.000
two thousand and seven at the time. If you and I'm a space

981
01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:08.159
geek, but if you did anything
related to Star Wars or Star Trek,

982
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:14.319
you were gonna have Lucasfilm or Paramount
coming after you, right, So I

983
01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:23.840
didn't you known such anything like that
then? So the Space Shuttle, I

984
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:28.720
kept looking at it, and the
profile of that Mini the Dodge Caravan looked

985
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:31.039
like the nose of the Space Shuttle. And as far as I'm concerned,

986
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:34.199
the Space Shuttle, we all paid
for it. It's public domain, so

987
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:40.000
you know. And I've always been
a fan of NASA and the Space program,

988
01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:45.119
so it was a tribute. At
that point, I was, yeah,

989
01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.560
Hey, what's easier than painted black
and white? Well, NASA,

990
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:54.199
because NASA won't go after you for
copyright unless you try to use their films

991
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:58.439
or their photographs directly in something else
that you're releasing, like if you're doing

992
01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:01.720
a documentary and you don't have their
mission. But if you do something inspired

993
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.680
by their design, and it's not
specific, like, it's not made to

994
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:09.159
look like one of the Like.
You can't go out and make Space Shuttle

995
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.039
toys. They'll give you a problem. But if you're creating an artistic piece

996
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:18.159
like this and it's clearly inspired by
but not a direct copy of, then

997
01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:24.159
you're okay, right because it's funny. You know, the first Space shuttle

998
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:28.840
that I remember was called Enterprise.
The reason why it was called Enterprise because

999
01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:31.800
it was inspired by Star Trek.
Right to name it that way that I

1000
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:36.399
understood. Uh, there's also lots
of other historical reasons to name a ship

1001
01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:41.920
Enterprise, but besides that, it
was named Enterprise. Now yours is called

1002
01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:45.399
Kobyashi Maru, which I'll mean,
listen, I'm a I'm I'm a trek

1003
01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:47.720
guy. I know I don't sound
like it, but I'm a trick guy.

1004
01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:56.319
Anyways, you gotta be a double
geek to get the kob Well,

1005
01:22:56.359 --> 01:22:59.520
see, I'm a truck I'm a
triple geek. I even played Magic the

1006
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:01.399
Gathering, and I used to play
the card game for Star Trek and everything.

1007
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:06.000
You know a whole bit. The
only series I haven't watched so far

1008
01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:10.439
is Prodigy. Anyways, all the
rest of them. I'm all caught up.

1009
01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:13.960
I've seen them all multiple times and
I've seen all the movies. Loved

1010
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:15.960
it, went to the theaters,
you name it, Okay. Anyways,

1011
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:19.840
I'm a Trek guy, So Kobeyashi
Maru, I know what that is,

1012
01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:26.680
and I think it's hilarious because it's
for people who don't know. If you're

1013
01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:31.199
not a geek. The Kobyashi Maru
is the no win scenario test that they

1014
01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:36.800
give to cadets at Starfleet Academy while
they're in command of a ship in a

1015
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:44.039
simulation to see how they react to
a no win situation. And this is

1016
01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.840
what he puts on the side of
the Space Shuttle instead of Enterprise, which,

1017
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:50.079
by the way, they had people
from Star Trek go to some of

1018
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:56.279
those initial launches when they were still
doing this thing of putting the plane up

1019
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:59.640
with the Shuttle on the back of
it, which is the way this started

1020
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:02.039
out early flights. You can find
film of it out there, I think,

1021
01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:06.000
and I want to say seventy eight
maybe it was somewhere in there.

1022
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:11.840
I know it was when I was
a little kid. The the the entire

1023
01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:18.920
cast of the original series came out
to see Enterprise and except for Shatner.

1024
01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:23.720
For some reason, Shatner didn't show
up, but everyone else was there to

1025
01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:30.880
get off. And it's an interesting
note. The pilot that flew the Enterprise

1026
01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:34.079
off the top of the seven forty
seven for the first time was Fred Hayes,

1027
01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:42.079
who was also an astronaut on Apollo
thirteen. He's his character was played

1028
01:24:42.119 --> 01:24:45.760
by Bill Paxton in the movie.
And Fred Hayes saw my car at face

1029
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:50.399
enter Houston and had his picture taken
with it and posted it on Facebook himself,

1030
01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:55.960
and that was like my drop Mike
moment because he's my favorite astronaut and

1031
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.760
he was a bit you know,
getting the shuttle off the back of the

1032
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:04.479
was his big project and he was
the lead pilot astronaut on that. It

1033
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:09.000
was really cool, right right,
No, it's just great backs. It's

1034
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:15.880
just the yeah good. So the
Kobyashi Maru name on the shuttle, interesting

1035
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:19.159
story behind that. I changed I
was getting I was planning to change the

1036
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:24.880
name because I was refinishing it.
It occasionally needs to be refinished because it's

1037
01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:28.520
in the elements all the time.
But I ran into I was at Space

1038
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:31.640
inter Houston, and I ran into
a very green, very brand new flight

1039
01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:36.239
controller who was just starting, just
started her job at Mission Control, and

1040
01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:40.479
she said, Oh, it's the
Kobe loss Kobyashi maru. That's awesome.

1041
01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:43.119
We use that term in Michigan Control
all the time. I was like,

1042
01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:45.439
what she said. Yeah, it's
a no win scenario. So every time

1043
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:48.439
you run a simulation, we're trying
to push it to the point of breaking,

1044
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.279
so it's always a no win scenario. So we go, oh,

1045
01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:55.039
we're going to run a Kobyashi maru. I was like, well, it's

1046
01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:58.880
gotta stay. Michigan Control uses it. It's a given term. The name

1047
01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:03.680
sis right literal, a literal instance
of you know, art, uh actually

1048
01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:11.760
inspiring science and science inspiring art in
return. That's the beauty of it.

1049
01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:14.720
That's great. No, I just
I wanted to get at that story.

1050
01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:18.760
Thank you. Yeah, I mean
it makes sense that the NASA folk would

1051
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:24.359
be in the Star Trek and science
fiction generally speaking, right of course,

1052
01:26:24.439 --> 01:26:29.760
it's not surprising. Eat them kind
of spreads in all directions. I mean,

1053
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:34.079
touch it all. What do you
think, uncle? You remember Star

1054
01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:40.479
Trek, you got fine fond members
that oh the man with the ears,

1055
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:45.720
but buddy, come with the one
with the ears. Mister Spot. That

1056
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:51.520
was the good they always look look
down to. He could he could touch

1057
01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:55.640
you on a certain spot and knock
you out. Yeah. Look they had

1058
01:26:55.680 --> 01:27:01.000
a laugh at him. Man me
tell me, well then Vulcan right,

1059
01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:06.960
Vulcan's planing it vaultan Fulcan races something
like that. Yeah, yeah, I

1060
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:12.439
love the fact on that show.
You know people originally when again, before

1061
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:15.600
Aaron and I were even thoughts in
people's minds, but uncle, you were

1062
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:19.640
alive. When they first put out
the production stills for Star Trek, right,

1063
01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:27.840
the guy editing the film turned around
and snipped the tops of Spot's ears

1064
01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:33.159
off. He thought he was correcting
the photograph several times when they said,

1065
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:38.560
you're not to post to burn my
ears, Well, it's just he's getting

1066
01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:41.600
in makeup to put ears on.
They take a picture, the guy taking

1067
01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:45.279
the picture is developing it and he's
changing it to get rid of the points

1068
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:47.319
on his ears. And they took
this like three four times. They kept

1069
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:51.319
sending the pictures back. So it's
just really funny that when they were first

1070
01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:55.840
trying to promote that show, they
couldn't even get people used to the idea

1071
01:27:55.840 --> 01:28:00.800
of somebody might have pointed ears,
which was hilarious. I felt had a

1072
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:08.960
problem with broadcasting with affiliates in the
South where that he thought that the Fought's

1073
01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:13.119
appearance was that of the devil,
and they weren't going to show the series.

1074
01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:15.560
They thought because he was on a
black and white television that he might

1075
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:21.720
come off as more of a satanic
looking character, which is yeah, which

1076
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:28.439
is why they actually adjusted his skin
tone. It may have been the pointed

1077
01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:30.439
ears or could have just been those
silly bangs. Well, they adjusted his

1078
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.560
skin tone in the original show Bible, all right, you know, which

1079
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:38.279
is what they called the thing where
you build out the universe. In the

1080
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:43.359
original show Bible, he had red
skin. And the problem was on black

1081
01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:48.079
and white TVs that would appear very
dark, and he would definitely appear demonic

1082
01:28:48.159 --> 01:28:51.640
if he was very dark with pointed
ears. So they said, nope,

1083
01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:55.359
can't do that, and that's how
he ended up with that mustard color.

1084
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:58.560
That change that they did, which
you know, that way on black and

1085
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:01.560
white and color TVs, his tone
would be odd, but it wouldn't be

1086
01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:08.039
dark and malevolent looking. So that
was the thing. They were afraid that

1087
01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:11.000
he was going to look satanic because
of the point of the ears and the

1088
01:29:11.079 --> 01:29:15.279
Dark Skin. Yep, yep,
that's true story. But anyways, Yeah,

1089
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:16.600
a lot of weird stuff went on
with trying to just even get that

1090
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:24.279
show out. You know, it's
remarkable sixty years later. The hero of

1091
01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:30.800
getting it out was Lucille Ball.
Yep. She had controlling, controlling interest

1092
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:34.760
in Desilu and she stood behind it
and kept the series on Desilu Studios.

1093
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:39.119
She fought for a whole bunch of
stuff to make sure that things were included

1094
01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:41.520
that they were going to get rid
of because they thought people were going to

1095
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.600
be offended in the South, et
cetera, et cetera. In fact,

1096
01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:47.479
that's true. Lucille Ball is one
of the people who made sure that Star

1097
01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:51.479
Trek wounded up being what it was
and it wasn't you know, taken down

1098
01:29:51.560 --> 01:29:56.159
by the powers that be that wanted
to edit it. So yep, that's

1099
01:29:56.199 --> 01:30:02.199
absolutely true too. Desilu Studios long
forgotten but important and television history, right,

1100
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:06.479
you know, can you know about
that? You knew? H I

1101
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:10.880
love Lucy was part of the Yeah, I didn't know that. This is

1102
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:15.199
new to me. Yeah, what
do you think, Jimmy, Like I

1103
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:17.239
said, Triple geek over here,
Aaron, you gotta remember I'm like triple

1104
01:30:17.279 --> 01:30:21.359
geek. Yeah, he's triple geak
over there. How does Jimmy think about

1105
01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:35.520
all this? Please say, Jimmy, well, what we're discussing this stuff

1106
01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:43.680
and I was just wondering what you
thought about it? Yeah, any thoughts

1107
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:46.079
on the development of Star Trek.
Did you know about Lucy o'ball playing an

1108
01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:54.840
a trickle role in it? Stuff
like that? Jimmy didn't know about her

1109
01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:59.399
being involved so much to start check, But I do know that she was

1110
01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:08.039
the first version to give Arnold Schwarzenegger
and the acting part one over later.

1111
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:12.600
No, no kidding, No,
no, I didn't know that. See,

1112
01:31:12.680 --> 01:31:15.760
you learned something every caller you go
to, Uncle, you learned so

1113
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:19.159
that one I didn't know, Jimmy
cutt one that I didn't know. Oh

1114
01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:25.800
really, I'm glad meet on that. Oh uncle, crazy crazy accents is

1115
01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:30.640
telling me we need to ask Bill
why? What's the question? Why is

1116
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:34.920
it many nine five? Why is
that Bill? Why is that Bill?

1117
01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:47.840
That's a good question. So the
aircraft designation of the original seven ferry carrier

1118
01:31:47.960 --> 01:31:55.119
jet, so it's the n A
nine oh five. That's NASA's aircraft designation

1119
01:31:56.199 --> 01:31:59.399
number for it. With your friend
that we met at the air show is

1120
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:03.479
just a all googly that we were
able to because he identifies planes by their

1121
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:11.199
registration numbers that it's the jet that
sits in front of space Er Houston.

1122
01:32:11.720 --> 01:32:17.720
So mine is the Mini Nino five. Nice obscure, but when people have

1123
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.199
to ask you, it gives you
an opportunity to tell them the story.

1124
01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:26.640
Got it. So throughout this piece
of art, what you're saying is there

1125
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:30.399
are minor homages to all sorts of
real world things that are represented within the

1126
01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:39.800
piece. Indeed, yeah, if
you look, you're looking at some of

1127
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:45.119
the photos on the side of the
car, there's actually tiny little mission stamps

1128
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:49.600
right by the rearview mirrors, and
those are on the actual jet. On

1129
01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:55.239
the jet, it's each of the
different shuttles that it varied, so it

1130
01:32:55.359 --> 01:33:00.439
has all six, including Enterprise,
and then it has another like a self

1131
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:05.600
drone that they ferried. But just
like in the in World War Two you

1132
01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:11.079
would have kill stamps for every plane
you shot down, the seven forty seven

1133
01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:15.720
has mission stamps for each of the
shuttles that it ferried back from California or

1134
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:21.239
where wherever else in the country.
And so my I have four little stamps

1135
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:25.960
one is the very front, one
is the Shuttle vand the original art car,

1136
01:33:26.479 --> 01:33:31.760
and then three different renditions of this
current art car. Interesting, Okay,

1137
01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:35.359
I see how uncle? You know
what? That reminds me of the

1138
01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:39.399
stickers they put on the full football
helmets. That's a similar thing, you

1139
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:41.720
get to. I don't know why
they put them on the football helmets,

1140
01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:48.600
all the things they put on.
Sometimes it's sometimes they put on the things

1141
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:56.279
on the flipplay helmets. That that's
if somebody's missed or somebody passes. That's

1142
01:33:56.319 --> 01:33:59.600
what that is. That's what that's
for. Is that is that a ken

1143
01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:02.920
bill? You said that's similar?
Would that be like similar? Those are

1144
01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:08.840
usually tribute. It's almost like a
black flash of your farm for a fallen

1145
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:16.319
comrade. Football usually, especially in
college football, they'll put a sticker for

1146
01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:20.319
every tackle you get, for every
touchdown you score, so you know you

1147
01:34:20.359 --> 01:34:25.760
can get the really good jobs have
their helmets all covered with stickers because they've

1148
01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:34.760
been I know one that's a very
good one. Understand. Ohio State has

1149
01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:42.199
these stones, and I was trying
to understand what the heck is the storming

1150
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:46.600
to on mail helmets to have something
like that. It looks like they just

1151
01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:49.720
got back from the smoke shop.
But that's what it sounds like, that's

1152
01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:54.159
what That's what I'm saying. That's
not what it is. It's a buckeye

1153
01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:58.359
leaf, is what that is.
But yeah, that's for me. Yeah,

1154
01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:06.920
that's because you and I was thinking
about that. So what would you

1155
01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:13.840
think about I think about that about
that with the hamlet? Yeah, yeah,

1156
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.960
but similar, I mean it's I
feel like, I mean you could

1157
01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:21.600
equate this also to like just stars
that kids get from their teacher. Like

1158
01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:28.119
I feel like these little badges and
stickers and like little like you know,

1159
01:35:28.359 --> 01:35:32.039
mementos that we put on things.
I don't know what that even is,

1160
01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:36.319
but it's something that we definitely like
to do, and it's something that definitely

1161
01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:40.920
like there's a certain satisfactions like,
oh yeah, I did this. I

1162
01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:43.800
want to commemorate it by you know, even if it's just like you know,

1163
01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:48.439
putting a mark on it's be it
a space shuttle, a football helmet,

1164
01:35:49.159 --> 01:35:54.720
a kid's folder or whatever. You
know, it's all the same thing.

1165
01:35:54.840 --> 01:36:00.279
I'm thinking the heel of your pistol
because you're a gunfighter. Yeah.

1166
01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:03.000
When I when I played Pop Warner
football, we used to get a skull

1167
01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:10.760
and crossbones on our helmets for for
every sack. So yeah, yeah,

1168
01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:14.760
there's something to it. I don't
know exactly what, but we definitely like

1169
01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:16.600
to do it as a well.
Like he said, it's like notches.

1170
01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:19.039
It's like this. You know,
you keep a notch on your on your

1171
01:36:19.079 --> 01:36:21.520
gun, you keep a notch on
your well. Some people put it on

1172
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:25.439
their headboard, you know what I
mean, You put notches on things.

1173
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:29.640
If you see in the movie Gangs
of New York, the one Irish guy,

1174
01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:32.399
he's got a notch on his sheally
for every guy he bashed his head

1175
01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:38.359
in, right he did. I
don't remember the character, the actor's name

1176
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:42.039
or whatever, but Bill, the
butcher comes and bashes his head in with

1177
01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:50.239
it, and he puts another notch
right on the danel on oil, like

1178
01:36:50.359 --> 01:36:57.039
on timetop when that lieutenant used to
keep ears from all the manees he killed.

1179
01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:02.119
Yeah, memo, I didn't see, don okay, same kind of

1180
01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:08.439
thing, Yeah, it is the
same thing. Yeah, kind of serial

1181
01:37:08.760 --> 01:37:12.800
serial killer version of that. Yeah, going down. Serial killers do keep

1182
01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:17.039
trophies. That's another thing. But
in all sorts of ways that these things

1183
01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:21.880
work themselves out. But uh,
uncle, nobody's categorizing a thing here.

1184
01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:30.479
I know that much. Just gotta
this tonight to me was very interesting.

1185
01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:35.560
Well, I think we've learned everybody
here on this talk table. I've learned

1186
01:37:35.640 --> 01:37:43.920
something, guess I think so even
so absolute, I mean, this is

1187
01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.720
really good. Now, these are
what I'm like, you guess, guess

1188
01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:53.720
the head. It's great and then
we get things out of it, you

1189
01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:59.039
know what I mean. It's like
it's rewarding. Yeah, it's a rewarding

1190
01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:03.560
for us for the audience. Bill, Bill, is this rewarding at all

1191
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:08.760
being here? Or are you sorry
you came? You're allowed to be perfectly,

1192
01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:15.439
I'm doing this. I this is
what I end up doing at art

1193
01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:19.560
car events, at air shows,
at wherever I show up, or even

1194
01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:25.279
at the grocery store parking lot.
I end up talking talking about the art

1195
01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:29.199
car, talking about I usually end
up hearing from other people a lot of

1196
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:34.479
their experience, their their contribution to
the space program, which is always I

1197
01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:40.039
mean, I find that rewarding as
well, because you know people that especially

1198
01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:45.399
in this area, the whole the
clear Lake area all builds up around NASA

1199
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:53.920
when in the sixties, So everybody
has some touch or connection in some way,

1200
01:38:54.000 --> 01:39:00.319
shape or form, which is why
the car is so popular? Was

1201
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:10.840
brew Bilber on the notion of would
you agree that LBJ wasn't popular at all

1202
01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:18.840
in Texas until the space program picked
up to the late sixties, LBJ kept

1203
01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:25.159
getting elected in I mean some Texas
and before he became vice president, but

1204
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:29.880
he was pretty unpopular at the time. They named the Johnson Space Center after

1205
01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:34.760
him because he was instrumental in getting
uh NATA in Houston. I mean,

1206
01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:42.560
the first word spoken from Moon was
Houston. So you know, there's some

1207
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:48.439
I think after after he h case
not to run for election and retire to

1208
01:39:48.920 --> 01:39:54.800
the LBJ ranch outside of Austin,
people kind of just you know, he

1209
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:59.960
was just that he wasn't quite the
statesman you might expect from the other time

1210
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:04.880
president, But I don't I think
people kind of still had lb J was

1211
01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:09.920
kind of a legend, whether you
like it or not. He still carried

1212
01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:15.680
some cachet in that sense. Mm, yeah, there you go. So,

1213
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:20.680
yeah, that's interesting. Would you
say that kind of like the way

1214
01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:29.840
uh Louisianians looked at Huey wrong just
kind of like one of the kind I

1215
01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:34.680
mean, well, he was such
a mainstay in Louisiana politics for so long

1216
01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:41.560
it was, it'd be kind of
hard to ignore him. Uh. We

1217
01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:46.359
we're talking about Louisiana history, right, there's too much, pretty much Huey

1218
01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:51.680
longed to talk about the long long
list of things from Huey long to be

1219
01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:59.600
sure and there you have it,
Hey them, do you think when would

1220
01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:03.399
be the next launch of the astronauts
will be the next one and go to

1221
01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:12.159
the moon? Im any idea Artimist
Artemist two is scheduled for They keep saying

1222
01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:16.479
twenty twenty four. Now, the
thing is this, the whole Artemis program

1223
01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:24.199
has been just fraught with delays,
being originally the Artivation program, and that

1224
01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:29.680
was ten It was back during Obama
and when Obama canceled that program, but

1225
01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:33.359
they kept it, NASA kept it
on the burner and they kept putting it

1226
01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:41.239
together as Artemis. So Artemist two
is going to be the first crude mission

1227
01:41:41.359 --> 01:41:46.239
to the Moon and they will do
the same figure eight loop that the Artemis

1228
01:41:46.399 --> 01:41:51.479
one did. Artemist one tested all
the systems. Artemist two will fly four

1229
01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:57.079
four astronauts out to the Moon.
They'll do a short ordered around the Moon

1230
01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:02.359
and then fling themselves further out beyond
the Moon about forty thousand miles and then

1231
01:42:02.439 --> 01:42:06.479
come back to the Moon and then
come back to Earth. They've they've scheduled

1232
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:14.079
that tentatively for twenty twenty four.
That rocket is going through all the steps

1233
01:42:14.119 --> 01:42:18.079
of completion, and because I kind
of watched the progress as it goes,

1234
01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:24.119
whether it's going to have twenty twenty
four as a crapsheet, because there's always

1235
01:42:24.399 --> 01:42:30.640
an excuse delay somewhere, and it
makes more sense to delay than to offer

1236
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:35.039
opportunity for disaster. But as far
as them setting foot on the Moon,

1237
01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:40.920
you're probably looking at twenty six or
twenty seven, because in order to go

1238
01:42:41.039 --> 01:42:45.159
to the mood to actually land on
the Moon, the plan is to have

1239
01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:48.359
a space station in lunar orbit,
and we don't even have that up and

1240
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:51.840
running yet, so they've got they're
going to have to launch a space station

1241
01:42:53.039 --> 01:42:57.840
that will get to lunar orbit before
the astronauts ever get there, and that's

1242
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:00.800
going to serve as a way station
where they go on Earth to lunar orbit,

1243
01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:03.880
go to that space station, and
then go down to the Moon,

1244
01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:08.279
come back, go down to the
Moon, come back, So they'll have

1245
01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:13.640
the opportunity rather than the land land
for a couple of days, then leave

1246
01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:16.239
and go back to Earth. They'll
have the opportunity to go to a space

1247
01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:23.119
station and hang out and then go
down to the Moon, come back and

1248
01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.720
make several trips down and back,
and then come back to Earth. So

1249
01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:30.800
it's kind of a different different than
the Apollo era. But with all those

1250
01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:35.640
moving parts going on, you're probably
looking a couple more years down the road,

1251
01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:42.479
you think. I'm I answered the
old question. Yeah, he do

1252
01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:45.840
got some good answers when didn't get
good answers when you have a guest like

1253
01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:48.520
him, that's right, that's right. I'm uh. I know that Crazy

1254
01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:53.880
Accidents. Got a patch from Bill. I'm going to show that on the

1255
01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:59.760
livestream videos. Here it is,
it, says Kobayashi, Maru Many is

1256
01:43:59.800 --> 01:44:03.680
it three five clear Lake City?
So I see the patches. So that's

1257
01:44:03.720 --> 01:44:10.199
your car. That's a nice patch, Bill, it's a car. Yeah,

1258
01:44:10.279 --> 01:44:16.279
that's the car, the VR car
that's on the path. I tell

1259
01:44:16.359 --> 01:44:23.680
people all the time that if if
NASA redesigned the toilet on the International Space

1260
01:44:23.720 --> 01:44:27.199
Station, they make a patch for
it, they're making vision pass for everything,

1261
01:44:29.279 --> 01:44:33.600
just like just like the stamps on
the side of the plane goes back

1262
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:41.479
to warwarks where if you were in
the Army Air Corps is pre Air Air

1263
01:44:41.560 --> 01:44:45.159
Force. If you're in the Army
Air Corps, every mission, every bombing

1264
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:47.640
mission you went on, you've got
to pack, you know, you're you

1265
01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:54.399
have a patch for that for making
it back a lot. So they make

1266
01:44:54.479 --> 01:44:59.640
mission patches for every different you have
all the way from Mercury, all the

1267
01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:04.800
way crew Gemini, Apollo, Skylab, Face Shuttle, everything on the ISS.

1268
01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:09.840
So this is actually what I think
what you're looking at is the fifth

1269
01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:15.119
generation patch that I've done. I
made my first one in seven and in

1270
01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:19.640
O seven with the Shuttleman, I
toured fifteen different cities around the country.

1271
01:45:20.039 --> 01:45:24.680
So all those cities are all around
the perimeter. Usually you have the cruise

1272
01:45:24.800 --> 01:45:31.039
names around the perimeter of a patch. So yeah, every patch has a

1273
01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:39.720
story, so usually they have some
type of personal reflection from the crew members

1274
01:45:39.800 --> 01:45:45.000
themselvels or what that mission is supposed
to accomplish. But yeah, patches are

1275
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:49.840
a big They're a form of art
in their own god. Yeah, yeah,

1276
01:45:49.880 --> 01:45:53.159
well this is definitely a cool patch. I can tell. I know

1277
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.399
that Creative Accents is very happy to
have his patch. Uncle. He's that

1278
01:45:57.560 --> 01:46:00.359
much is clear. So he was
happy, has met Bill and got that

1279
01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:09.039
match. We make Bill and gott
you know what I've got him? So

1280
01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:12.319
I've got him on a bomber jacket. I've got a uh, I've got

1281
01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:15.439
a backpack, which I call my
geek bag. It's just covered in different

1282
01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:24.600
NASA patches. There's always place nice, very cool, very cool. Uncle.

1283
01:46:24.640 --> 01:46:30.239
We're getting, We're getting. We're
nearing the end of the hour.

1284
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:31.960
Do you think that we should get
to make so we don't miss it?

1285
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:36.159
Do shout outs? Do you want
to do shout outs? Okay, guests

1286
01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:43.199
first, what do you want me? So? Bill, this is a

1287
01:46:43.399 --> 01:46:46.039
chance to shout out to anyone who
thinks maybe listening, or anybody that you

1288
01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:49.760
just respect. I want to say, Aaron, we have another caller joining

1289
01:46:49.840 --> 01:46:55.239
late as well. We do we
do hold on that. Okay, hold

1290
01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:59.439
hold that, hold that, hold
that thought and uh put him on the

1291
01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:05.000
phone. Let's have them on.
Everybody's yelling. Who's who's trying to yell

1292
01:47:05.039 --> 01:47:08.479
in the background on the phone.
I'm sorry, let me straighten it out.

1293
01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:11.960
Who's who's trying to say something.
We'll get back to the shoutouts.

1294
01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:16.239
I promise we'll get back to hold
on, hold on. Let's put people

1295
01:47:16.279 --> 01:47:20.279
on hold and everything first, because
we got everybody open lines here. Let's

1296
01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:26.840
put Jimmy James on hold. And
then we have a caller from Minneapolis.

1297
01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:41.239
You're on the air music. That's
a boat okay. I don't know what

1298
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:45.640
was going on there. That was
the call from I think that's what's coming

1299
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.880
back from one of those missions where
we try to search for alien life.

1300
01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:57.520
And that's the message we got back
from someone where we at They seem you

1301
01:47:57.720 --> 01:48:00.319
hung up. I'm checking to see
what's going on here. We we had

1302
01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:01.680
two callers. One went away,
there was that one. I don't know

1303
01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:06.680
what's going on here? That's going
on with you? Chut Hey, I

1304
01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:11.439
don't do I didn't do it.
They started calling in. What am I

1305
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:16.720
gonna do? Tell them? Tell
call in and speak, you know,

1306
01:48:16.840 --> 01:48:20.439
like like Joe Pest said in this
movie there where he's start. Look that

1307
01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:23.760
the old guy sitting there with the
beard, he's looking at you like,

1308
01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:26.159
hey, what do you want from
me? I'm telling you, I don't

1309
01:48:26.199 --> 01:48:31.199
know what these guys are calling in. They made noise, okay, was

1310
01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:38.399
a space shuttle Michigan. A discussion
with guess yeah, and and and you

1311
01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:44.399
come up and say I didn't do
it. Hey, I can't control what

1312
01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:46.479
people doing it with their phones.
People are crazy. All right. Now

1313
01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:49.520
look look, look, with that
all out of the way, I'm glad

1314
01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:53.600
we got to that because now we
back around the shout out. Well,

1315
01:48:53.640 --> 01:48:55.920
we still have Bill, all right, I have Bill on the open line.

1316
01:48:55.960 --> 01:48:58.439
We got Jimmy James on hold,
and I'll let you know if anybody

1317
01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:02.720
else jumps in. Okayah, yah
is perfect, that's probably yeah, yeah,

1318
01:49:02.960 --> 01:49:05.680
Uncle. Is the procedure? Correct
me? If I'm wrong when we

1319
01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:09.920
do shout outs, do we go
to the guest first with their shout out?

1320
01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:18.000
He's learning people, he's learning,
he's learning delay. All right,

1321
01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:20.039
Well, I don't know how to
pick the NFL game, So I got

1322
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:24.319
this right. So with that in
mind, Bill, anybody that you want

1323
01:49:24.359 --> 01:49:27.479
to shout out to, you know, anybody who might be listening, anybody

1324
01:49:27.479 --> 01:49:34.399
your respect. That mind is a
terrible thing. Shout out time all the

1325
01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:40.960
different all the personnel that worked on
the shuttle program for thirty years and made

1326
01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:44.119
it possible and inspired the rest of
us to do silly stuff like mine.

1327
01:49:45.239 --> 01:49:49.880
Okay, great, a great shout
out, Bill, Yeah, and thank

1328
01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:54.039
you for everything. Stay on the
line. We're still doing the show,

1329
01:49:54.119 --> 01:49:58.439
but thank you for being on the
show tonight and and for putting up with

1330
01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:02.560
us and everything at sales. Absolutely
great shout out. And before he goes,

1331
01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:05.720
he should give a shout out to
himself his website one more time if

1332
01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:10.199
people want to go take a look. I was trying to find it real

1333
01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:13.199
fast and I couldn't, but go
go Ahead'll give us that website again.

1334
01:50:15.199 --> 01:50:21.920
Homemade dot org homemade space shuttle dot
org. That's one word and then it's

1335
01:50:23.039 --> 01:50:28.319
dot org RG. So homemade space
shuttle dot org. There you go.

1336
01:50:29.079 --> 01:50:33.119
Okay, sorry doing my producer job
there. Very nice, all right,

1337
01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:36.520
dyl Thanks for coming on, and
we really appreciate you being here. Man.

1338
01:50:40.159 --> 01:50:43.720
And we have another caller. Yeah
yeah, and then uh, let's

1339
01:50:43.720 --> 01:50:47.560
see here, so uncle, let's
go to Jimmy with his shoutout. Jimmy.

1340
01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:51.039
Hold on after Jimmy. We have
another caller, so I'll put Jimmy

1341
01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:59.600
up first. Here we go,
Yeah, go ahead, Jimmy. Shout

1342
01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:03.560
out to the Lions who are gonna
beat the crap out of the Raiders tomorrow.

1343
01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:11.119
Yeah, that's what I got.
I picked them on my pool sick

1344
01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:17.159
you better get you better have the
points that otherwise you won't get it.

1345
01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:20.239
I might win, uncle, if
you may win if you don't get the

1346
01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:24.680
points you said you're still saying.
I mean, you're saying I'm not doing

1347
01:51:24.760 --> 01:51:29.279
goodbye in almost in the winter circle. Yeah. Yeah, you won't stand

1348
01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:31.000
it. You gotta get to the
point. You gotta get the points all

1349
01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:34.119
at the same time. Okay,
you get the point, all right?

1350
01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:41.039
Jimmy, Is that is that your
only point? Jimmy? It is that

1351
01:51:41.159 --> 01:51:49.600
it? Jimmy? Is it pretty? Shoutouts? I must shout up to

1352
01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:59.119
uh alrighty. Then there is the
point. And that's the way it is.

1353
01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:02.079
So now we got one more caller
on the line, unknown number.

1354
01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:09.319
I call him and that's who you
at. And you're on line with Don't

1355
01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:12.800
you think we should wait here for
a while? Nope? Are you thinking

1356
01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:15.520
what I'm thinking? Absolutely not.
Get away from there. Catch me later.

1357
01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:30.159
I'll buy your beer. We on
those shows again. That's kick those

1358
01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:32.680
Uh so I think kick that.
I just heard that was a call.

1359
01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:39.960
That was a caller. It sounded
like the machine we do on Saturdays VHS

1360
01:52:40.039 --> 01:52:42.680
watching party. Yeah, that's what
it looked like. Sound like it sounds

1361
01:52:42.680 --> 01:52:46.239
like a VHS tape, A true, I don't have to. I don't

1362
01:52:46.239 --> 01:52:48.880
have a working VHS. I'm sorry, I don't know. No, No,

1363
01:52:49.239 --> 01:52:51.680
I'm just saying. I'm saying,
and that's what it sounded like it

1364
01:52:51.800 --> 01:52:56.880
did. Now it's because we listened
to them on Saturday. Okay, William,

1365
01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:01.640
but he speaks, Bill, you
broke up. Yeah, you gotta

1366
01:53:01.800 --> 01:53:05.319
hang on his he gets knocked off
really easy, sound wise. Bill,

1367
01:53:05.399 --> 01:53:10.920
we didn't hear yet. Good.
Uh if you don't have a VHS,

1368
01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:14.800
how are you going to watch all
those Carson tapes? There you go,

1369
01:53:15.159 --> 01:53:17.439
I don't have one back there.
But no, he he doesn't watch him,

1370
01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:21.239
Mike go, we did we have
him, We watch him on Saturday.

1371
01:53:21.359 --> 01:53:26.520
We have them. We did,
we did yesterday, we did Saturday.

1372
01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:29.680
Yeah, we did them Saturday.
I'm getting confused to day. Yeah.

1373
01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:33.880
VCR is Uh, it's a it's
a VC standing here on top of

1374
01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:39.840
a lamp and we've got it on
the desk. It's balanced just perfectly.

1375
01:53:40.159 --> 01:53:46.359
Yeah. Man, he that's that
kick set up and so we you gotta

1376
01:53:46.399 --> 01:53:49.479
have that. You gotta have that
set up to see the monkey poop on

1377
01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:54.439
the Johnny's shoulder. Hey, look, it's almost man, it's almost as

1378
01:53:54.520 --> 01:53:58.960
complicated as the shuttle you got balanced
on your Mini Cooper dare right. I

1379
01:53:59.039 --> 01:54:03.800
mean that's the type of technicality we
got here with this VHS contraption, right

1380
01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:12.520
right, it's a it's technical wizardry
that I will. I'm gonna make a

1381
01:54:12.600 --> 01:54:15.640
patch for that, the VCR patch. I'm gonna put that. Every time

1382
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:18.960
that the VCR works and the connection
works on the livestream, I'm gonna make

1383
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:23.239
a little patch I'm gonna put on
a jacket. How about that, NASA.

1384
01:54:23.720 --> 01:54:27.279
That sounds better. That sounds interesting, because every time we're playing with

1385
01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:30.720
these wires and we get the stoves, I do desrying to look at the

1386
01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:34.920
picture, and you know, the
man whoever's talking easier said than done.

1387
01:54:35.119 --> 01:54:40.000
It's crazy. You just reminded me. I got two emails this week from

1388
01:54:40.039 --> 01:54:44.279
people who said that they would want
a Uncle patch for their jackets. And

1389
01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:47.640
I have no idea why they want
a circular Uncle logo patch for their jackets.

1390
01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:53.720
Okay, well all right, well, uh guys, we'll say we

1391
01:54:53.800 --> 01:54:56.479
might oblige them. I might be
able to get those made for you,

1392
01:54:56.720 --> 01:55:00.239
like real cheap and short runs.
If you want them, I've got I've

1393
01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:08.399
got uh a maker for you.
You do nice. There you go.

1394
01:55:08.600 --> 01:55:14.119
Thank thank you Bill. That and
with that, this is I'll just say

1395
01:55:14.239 --> 01:55:17.600
Uncle theepodcast dot com. That's our
website at Uncle Podcast, Instagram, Twitter,

1396
01:55:18.319 --> 01:55:24.680
and the YouTube YouTube. This is
the end of the show. But

1397
01:55:24.800 --> 01:55:27.479
Bill, anything else you want to
you're the guest, anything else you want

1398
01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:31.319
to say before we head out for
the night. Thanks having me on board,

1399
01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:34.199
guys, I appreciate It's great to
have you. Man. It was

1400
01:55:34.239 --> 01:55:39.159
a lot of fun. But yeah, this is the Uncle Show and uh,

1401
01:55:39.279 --> 01:55:43.159
Uncle, uh what else from you
before we bring it on home for

1402
01:55:43.239 --> 01:55:48.800
the night? Land of two people
online and I guess, oh, give

1403
01:55:48.840 --> 01:55:54.800
me out mine goodnight. Absolutely,
this was a lot of fun, right

1404
01:55:54.880 --> 01:56:02.920
Uncle. Yeah, this was interesting
tonight and this week then last last week

1405
01:56:03.079 --> 01:56:06.279
was okay, But look, this
was a lot of fun and I appreciate

1406
01:56:06.319 --> 01:56:10.039
it, and I just want to
remind listeners that it is a very good

1407
01:56:10.119 --> 01:56:13.680
time and I would be happy to
even have some coffee money tonight. So

1408
01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:17.439
if anybody puts the chip in at
o'chelly dot com, it is much appreciated,

1409
01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:23.119
because having a tooth extracted earlier this
week definitely put a dent in my

1410
01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:27.079
funds. So yeah, you'd be
buying coffee. You for me this week?

1411
01:56:27.199 --> 01:56:32.159
Oh so you and the dentist.
Yes, Yessa, you were in

1412
01:56:32.279 --> 01:56:35.359
the dentist. Yes, I had
to have a toothbold. Yeah, I

1413
01:56:35.439 --> 01:56:39.880
had to have a toothbold, which
sucked. But anyway, it is what

1414
01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:42.560
it is, and I appreciate you
guys, and you're not going to get

1415
01:56:42.680 --> 01:56:47.199
unique radio like this anywhere else.
This is no other show is like the

1416
01:56:47.439 --> 01:56:53.239
Uncle Podcast, Uncle the Podcast or
Uncle the Broadcast, which is what we

1417
01:56:53.319 --> 01:56:56.920
don't want another question for if Bill
still on the line, Oh, Bill

1418
01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:00.800
Wells question, if you want to
come back to me on the line.

1419
01:57:01.399 --> 01:57:06.319
I have especially New Year's Revolution.
Try I forgot to me. I forgot

1420
01:57:06.399 --> 01:57:14.439
you. And if you you're welcome
to call in when New Year's Come Special.

1421
01:57:14.880 --> 01:57:17.680
But then it will be only my
show. Yes, join us four

1422
01:57:17.800 --> 01:57:23.439
hours. It'll be four hours at
least of Uncle the Broadcast for the New

1423
01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:28.920
Year's Revolution. We wish every time
zone in America Happy New Year throughout the

1424
01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:32.399
broadcast and we do a four hour
marathon and we love it. If former

1425
01:57:32.439 --> 01:57:36.880
guests especially or anybody drops in to
say hello, tell us, what's going

1426
01:57:36.960 --> 01:57:41.600
on? Plug your stuff again?
Anything you want, come on the Uncle

1427
01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:44.600
Revolution Show. And have a good
time. How about that, Bill,

1428
01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:50.319
there's a full invitation for you.
Yeah. Uh, I might be doing

1429
01:57:50.399 --> 01:57:55.079
something that night. We'll see.
Well, that's if you have time.

1430
01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:59.399
I'm not pushing it to say you
can. If you want to drop in

1431
01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:03.319
for five, miss say two five, depended where you want. Yeah,

1432
01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:06.079
if you know I'm having a good
time, I'm out doing this. I'm

1433
01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:09.960
doing that. Hey, I want
to wish you guys some happy New Year.

1434
01:58:10.039 --> 01:58:13.319
Goodbye. That's it, Bill,
no problem, can say we're happy

1435
01:58:13.399 --> 01:58:18.479
with that too. Okay, So
there you have it. Uncle, it's

1436
01:58:18.520 --> 01:58:25.560
allday. Time to bring us home. Man, there's a show to three

1437
01:58:25.680 --> 01:58:33.119
hundred and fourteenth emisode is History.
You gotta tug to gotta talk to him

1438
01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:44.159
tonight. I'm glad to tell him
that it is the end of October.

1439
01:58:45.119 --> 01:58:45.000
October, it's fine.