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show for us, and not a strange show, really interesting show. One
of our patreons asked us to there's Vance asked us to discuss what happens to
Bigfoot after they, you know, become deceased they pass away, and I
thought, well, not something we ever talked about, I guess in great
lengths in the past. And as we start winding up the what better way
to think about than death and you know what comes after during the most magical
time of the year. So I figured, well, let's talk about Bigfoot
after death. And there's some very interesting points that will go over and some
talking discussions. But first, I had a good show last week, guys
with the Big Muddy Monster some good reception or social media folks, you can
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what lies we're talking about. But yeah, please be a little bit more
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reports of folks we were there at the time and felt they needed to share
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Got a great article from Matt sending to me, which we'll definitely talk
about when we get started. Guys, anything you want to touch on before
we go off. We'll start at James Work around the Clock, James,
Matt, Henry, and then vance not. I got nothing. I'm waiting
for the subject. I have all kinds of things on that, all right,
Matt, go ahead, anything for you? Not really, I'm just
securing it for the holiday season, and we're gonna have another weekend out in
the woods coming up this weekend, so you know, I'll be I'll be
out. Keep my eyes open, Henry, what do you got? Well?
I finished Matt Threwit's book, The Phenomenal Sasquatch. I really liked it.
We'll be able to dry size as far as science step, but I
enjoyed it was a good book, good read. Yeah, The Phenomenal Sasquatch
is a great book. It is a little scientific and wordy, but if
you're someone that enjoys those things, like I think Matt and myself have a
have a tendency to go on for those things, it's right up our alley.
But Henry, you did give it a really good review. It's a
great book, and yeah, you should check it out and Vans anything for
you. My breast implants to write Patty from the PG film. It's rather
well and I'm just kidding about all. You know. I want to into
this topic. It's upon all of us to talk about tonight because I have
a couple of points. If any of the other members of this squad here
will not bring up, I would love to bring up. Okay, very
good, Okay, Well that we'll get started, guys tonight talking about Bigfoot
after death. I had the pods there because we didn't call it Where's the
Bones. Where's the Bones is actually chapter tanty of John Green's book Sasquatch Dabs
among Us where we talk about this. But James, go ahead, I'll
let you get started because you're busted at the seams. So we were kind
of having a discussion. Someone had asked, you know, where's the body?
Why haven't we found one? You know, why why would I you
know, how would afford a six hundred pound and you know two to six
hundred pound animal just disappear? And I did a lot of reading on this,
and I wanted to talk about the I kind of three theories on it.
One of them will make people angry, and I'm okay with it.
I'll start with that. One it doesn't exist, okay. Two is it's
highly intelligent, or three is it's a animal and it eats a debt.
We're gonna really focus on two and three, or we're gonna focus on two
and three more than we will on one, because scientifically, I couldn't prove
any of the three options. So but I we have talked about many times
about whether they're smart and they bury their dead or they whatever. And I
know Sean has some information on that, so I won't take that away from
him. But my time. So I've been talking to dn R or the
Pennsylvania Pennsylvania Outdoors and a variety of other ones, and a lot of them
like you pick any animal out in the wild, well, they don't die
of old ay, it matters to where you are on the food chain,
to how long you survive and what happens to your body. So, for
instance, a deer most cases do not live, you know, of old
age. They get shot by a hunter or killed by a wolf, or
break their leg and rot, you know whatever. But they usually die of
old egg. A smaller animal like a mouse might get eaten by a bird,
variety of things. Okay, so they took They were talking about how
wolves have anywhere, have a range of up to two hundred miles sometimes,
so the wolf would say, kill a deer, and let's say the deer
weigh one hundred pounds. When the wolf killed it, they would take it
in the pack, or the single wolf would take it back to its wolflings.
I guess pack is the best word I can think of it at the
moment. And I would and would and would and would take the body of
what it want it. Now that body is laying there with what's left now,
any other scavengers or even larger carnivores like even banners, will take a
chunk. Because bearers don't eat their meat as much. They put it in
a dry lo They put it in a location and then they eat the bugs
off it. So now you have a deer kircus that was let's say,
one hundred pounds, now it's about forty pounds. Smaller animals will take what
they want, the bugs will take what they want. But they say,
in general, matters how cold it is, how hot it is, where
you live, humidities. There's a whole lot of really special math. And
if you want to read the books, have at it. Okay, But
James, we sat through a presentation from doctor John Manzinski about bears, which
was very interesting and just adding more credibility to what you were saying of when
we were told that the bears don't eat the meat, they let it faster,
and then they eat the maggots because they're easier for the bears to digest,
like the blood. Little grotesque. I get it. You know it's
coming from a professional, folks, James, and I just didn't make that
up. It was science, okay, from a scientist. I mean to
step anybody, I'm sorry, no, no, it's fine. We were
So you now have a smaller carcass, and now you have that carcass anywhere
you know, in the next one hundred fifty to one hundred miles is spread
all over the place. They say. The average body outside without any kind
of burial or anything like that usually only lasts maybe you know, a week,
you know, and then you're down to bones. The bugs pick them
clean. And the thing is that if the body is spread over miles,
you might not notice a full skeletal of something. You may just see a
bone, or you may whatever. So as far as as far as I
think is because if we believe that Bigfoot is truly alive and not a spiritual
animal or fake okay, then there's the potential of a three h under to
four hundred pound beast disappearing. Because how many deer and Matt might have a
better idea or even or even you know, could being a hunter. How
many deer die yearly that we didn't kill. But yet there's not deer carcasses
from you know, from here to whatever. The carcass has just gone.
Same with bear. Bears die and like I said, the higher on the
food chain, the less the older they will get. But like you know,
like a deer would be, a deer dies breaks its leg and we'll
say, some wolves pick at it, and then coyotes pick at it.
And then this pecks at it, and the birds pick at it and whatever.
So within a week it's down to bone and the bugs are eating the
bones. So a large body could disappear, and there's physical proof if you
look in the Animal Kingdom answer the question did a whole episode on I think
it was the swamp creatures and how long it would last, something, something
would last out there, and they did timeline of photography and life. In
no time, it went from being a full carcass to nothing. Not even
a Greece We had the same situation kind of. We had a little area
where we were planting strawberry to try to bait in animals. There was a
dog that was dead. We didn't kill it. We're not creepers, okay,
whatever. It was maybe dead a week or two and we weren't gonna
disturb it. We came back about two weeks later and it was boned.
You know, something was picking at it. So, I mean, the
science is there of what could have happened to the box. I can tell
you nothing. There's nothing more morbid than something upon a dead dog. Yeah,
no, you know, no explanation of all the things defined in the
woods. That's just not right. A dog was definitely probably the most disturbing.
Well, we got followed by that white van that was more disturbing.
But and I was talking to Matt a little bit about how the police use
pig carcasses to kind of get an idea of how body react to certain environments.
So take it away to Matt. Well, we have been using pig
archaices and that's something that a lot of the a forensic anthropologists will use.
However, what we generally do is we have people that donate their their bodies
to science, and we have body farms. They're the three biggest body farms
right now. There's one in Texas that's the original, there's one in Tennessee,
and there's also one in Florida. And the one in Texas is more
they have a very habitat, but it's more that dry, arid environment.
The one in Tennessee is more of a mountainous environment. And obviously the one
that that's in Florida you have the higher humidity, you have the you know,
just the different organisms down there that will quickly take care of a body.
So like if you look up any of the videos, they'll actually put
fencing up around the bodies just so that they can see what happens to the
body without it being disturbed by animals. Because when you do remove those those
fences, the animals will will clear that area where the body is in a
matter of days. That There's one famous video I tried to find. I
couldn't. I couldn't get in time, but there was actually a deer that
was that was eating the bones from a human in one of the body farms.
But the one thing is is there out yes, absolutely. The one
thing is though, is that we're out in the woods, and which is
where you know, we do a lot of our research. Something that lives
out in the woods that absolutely thrives on bones is porcupines. Porcupines. Porcupines
will absolutely clear skeleton and no time at all. So you do have creatures
like that. Mice will feed on the hair. Yes, they will feed
on the on the bones as well, but they're primarily going to go for
the hair and and and other you know deposits from the body. And then
of course you have to you know, organisms like the maggots, which will
just clean any tissue from from a body from the inside out. They'll go
into an orifice such as your eye's mouth rect them and as soon as they
lay some eggs, that's it. Yeah, I had to bring that up.
Well, No, I mean that's accurate because my friend is a taxidermist.
He goes they have boxes that they put them skulls in from the deer
and whatever in that box as he bugs in it and like a day and
a half, that thing is clearer of whisp. Yes. Yeah, And
you can actually buy those beetles. There are specific breed of beetles. You
can buy them, I believe on Amazon. You can actually get a box
of these beetles and if you have a skull, they will clean the the
the all the tissue off and have that skull clean in literally two or three
days. Right. So, but there are different stages when we go through
and you know, when we look at the try to determine a time of
death, where we look at how far as the person remained in rigor mortous
is it now into you know, a decomposition mode, how far into decomposition
mode hasn't been has there been anything to to you know, to affect the
area where the crime scene, where the where the body was. So there's
all those factors that come into play with that. And we're talking about humans,
you know, but again, if we're talking about a large animal,
you know, we're we're going to use a lot of those same principles.
Mm hmm. Fans, what do you have to add? Here's what I
have to add. I had an epiphany. If anybody knows the definition of
hyphany, I happened to watch I believe it was this past Sunday, small
town monsters revisiting the nesting site. And it went from the first visitation of
the nesting site with doctor Meldrum and then the current Eric Randalls and Sean Corson,
and you know, they explained that this nesting site, you know a
lot of the shrubbery and leaves were stripped from the trees and were you know,
packed on the ground. I'm wondering, maybe that's not a nesting site,
Maybe that's a grave, because Sean, I've seen you bury the bodies
in the backyard and you take a shovel and you take that shovel all the
dirt over the grave, right, And maybe that's the possibility. That is
not necessarily a bedding site, but it could possibly be a grave where one
has passed away and we have learned through biology that you know, there are
several animals that experienced remorse and badness. The first thing I would bring up
is the crow. You know, the entire birds season crow and raven and
is extremely as intelligent that they are. When their phone has fallen, they
gather around in trees above where the fallen has gone down that and some of
these crows have got trinket, whether it's broken glass or tinfoil, and they
leave it by the body and they hang there for a number of hours before
they leave the area. They are giving a consent to one that has fallen.
And elephants, you know, we've all heard old the elephant graveyard.
Yeah there, that's kind of a wives tale with the elephant graveyard that they
all travel to the same spot and they all die in the same spot.
That's a wive's tale. But elephants and chimpanzees primates, they grieve when they
lose a significant mate or a young one. They do Greek and it's clearly
evidence through biology to see that there's a grieving going on over a dead carcass.
Now, if you don't have a bipedal creature, which I believe that
there is and you know it. He's also it may have the intelligence to
bury it's loved one or a you know, cohort among the family, whatever
it is, and bury it and then you know, pack it down to
the ground. And when I watched that Small Town Monsters, you know,
visiting revisiting the nest site, wondering maybe there's a possibility that's actually a grave
not necessarily please for scleep. That's fascinating now before go ahead, Matt,
and then I want to jump into this article. Yeah, really really quick.
I also watch that too in the ELI and the Olympic Project to people.
I mean, they did a fantastic job with that, and I'm looking
forward to to the second part, so hopefully if they could get that going
for us. But anyways, one thing that I would suggest is taking and
you can get it. You can bring them more into the into the bad
country. Now it's not like it was twenty years ago, but ground penetraying
radar, and if you're able to find a depression, if you're able to
find a hollowed area underneath those nests, I think your hypothesis it could be
correct. And you know, it's definitely worth it too. I did see
that they that they did dig through those. But if you're talking about something
that maybe it dug down about three four feet, you know what happens is
once your your body's going to be covered by the dirt and then as it
decomposes, you're actually going to have almost like a like a depression there from
where where that body was. Eventually it's going to be it's gonna go to
bone, but at some point you're always going to have that even if it's
even if it collapses, you're still going to have that small amount of basically
open space that would match up to way care uscles are created similar very similar
to that. So if the Olympic Project, if they're able to get a
ground penetring radar up to up to those sites to see if there's something underneath,
that may be very fruitful. And you know, and like I said,
nowadays there's units that they could get that they would be able to bring
into the back country. But as ten years ago, back even back in
twenty fourteen when they found your when they found the first ones, we were
still using the ones that looked like lawnmowers. So it's very true, man,
And that's a good point. However, not penny penetrating right there.
That's not a dollar fifty to go to lows and go buy one. Yeah,
they've got backers, they've got backers. I don't know that any times
be able to afford to buy one and bring it just for that one specific
research. However, it's a possibility if you dig into the ground, you
might be able to find something, I don't know, to all one of
those things out there with them. Yeah, it's not as easy as it
was done in Jurassic Art to find the velociraptor and say, oh look,
no it's not Yeah, that's a high foot process. I don't want to
see these guys be spending money on something that I just came up with a
hypothesis on. But it's possible, I guess. I don't know. I
don't know till you try. You don't know till you try. But as
we're still on this topic, before we go to our break, I want
to get through this article. A very timely article today posted by Lawn Strickler,
and it was just you know, it's kiss met because we're talking about
you know, the bigfoot. You know what happens after they pass away?
He got an article today, day of December fourth, twenty twenty three,
over at Fantoms and Monsters dot com did Pharaoh Lake, New York resident witness
a sasquatch Burio ritual. I got lone's permission to read this. I'm going
to read it for Beata. The following email was quite strange and I felt
at the time needed further investigation. The email was written as a draft,
including an outline that was added with other notations. It was an odd format,
but the information was verified. When I contacted the submitter, I was
asked to write the commentary since they felt that they were not able to compose
a story that would be understood by the readers. I affwarded a copy of
my final composition to d D, which was approved. I inquired about the
witnesses the cousin willingness to be interviewed, but the notation was rebuffed. Since
the information was sent to me was done so without the knowledge of the witness.
All specific personal location and disclosure was agreed to be kept in confidence.
But here's a transcript. During the holidays Christmas twenty ten, I was able
to talk to a cousin who lives in the Faro Lake area in New York.
He is a conservationalist and an advocate for nature conservation. He recently made
a discovery that is fascinating but pains him since the information would most likely lead
to bigfoot hunters decimating wildlife in pristine forests. While hiking and camping in a
fairly remote force in Essex County, New York, the most specific location he'll
give, they came across what he describes as a sasquatch ritual burial. One
evening, while he was making his way back to camp, he heard muffled
grunting coming from his right. His attention was directed towards a thick stand of
sugar maple trees. He crouched down behind a large fallen tree and witnessed three
large, hairy bipedal figures sasquatch standing around a large tree stump. It looked
like a large female who towered among her companions. He estimated that she was
eight foot plus and that the others were about five to six feet tall.
Each one of the figures was swaying and grunting. This activity continued for almost
ten minutes when they suddenly stopped and started to run in the opposite direction he
was fearful that they had noticed his presence somehow. Since it was now getting
dark, he decided to continue to his camp and return the next day.
The next morning, he anxiously made his way back to the site where he
had seen the sasquatch. When he reached the site, he noticed a four
foot high hollow sugar maple stump with four gray squirrel tails attached to the top
edge and suspended outside the stump. It looked like a sword of decoration.
He also noticed a terrible stench that reminded him a very strong heroin. He
looked into the stump. It was empty, but there was some dark fur,
a few blood stains, and a large piece of old deer hide.
He surmises that the sasquatch may have buried a small child or infant in the
stump, and that they either came back to move it after noticing him,
or that a scavenger took it during the night. Do you believe that this
could have been a sasquatch funeral or ritual burial? Dd? And the final
note is when I originally posted this commentary, I received responses from several doubters,
but no one was able to offer an alternative reason for the actions of
the Sasquatch. Is it possible that sasquat conducts spiritual rituals? And you know,
and again so we go to you know, kind of an amalgamation of
some of the things we've talked about tonight. You know, Baker, you
know, what's their intelligence levels? Do these Does nature take care of their
own? Is there some sort of ritualistic And why not if there are more
people, as more people like as folks claim they have an intelligence like man,
why would they not have their own ritual? Jamie King post wonder if
they utilize a morning shelter similar to indigenous tribes to mark or the area is
sacred ground? And kind of what that person witnessed. And I know we
could take that, we could take that report and we could laugh it off,
and you know, market is silly. But the thing is it's very
specific. And I've not seen or heard of a lot of reports like that
ever, right, And so imagine the rarity of observing a sasquatch to begin
with. But now you've not only seen one, you've seen read and you
may have seen some sort of ritual. I don't know if i'd have the
balls to report with anybody, to be honest with you, thoughts on that
general true. Well, you know when you when these reports of researchers that
go on in the field and they say, hey, there's treat branches made
into an X. Maybe the X is representing a spot where one has fallen.
I get it's just speculation, but maybe one has fallen in that area
and that's their recognition to stay out of that area give respect, or one
has fallen and has been buried. Well, you know, I'm still kind
of on your nesting site hypotheses because to me, that's not something that had
occurred to me ever until you just brought that up. That's pretty fascinating,
folks. We're going to take a quick break here. It's nine point thirty
two, little late in the news. We come back, we'll carry onto
this conversation. I'm Sean Forker, He's James Baker, that's Matt Arner.
Vince has been in preparation age. Henry May down there in the corner.
Thank you James for that nickname, and we'll be right back. Enjoy it.
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the Big Distraction, Bigfoot Bullhorn, exclusively on the Sasquatch experience. Oh my
god, who the hell has great? Anyway, we are in the descend
of the dark season while simultaneously holding hands with the holiday season. Imagine,
I'm much we would save on electricity bills if Christmas was in the summertime.
You wouldn't even have to turn your lights on until like nine pm. Turn
them off it I don't know, three in the morning when it starts getting
light out. I don't know why I'm laughing. I've lost my mind.
I'm sorry, but we are quickly heading into the holiday season, like I
said, and is it Christmas? YETI? Speaking of YETI? A search
for Yeti ended in October with the discovery of a single strand of hair.
A BBC Radio four program covering the Hamalayan hunt has revealed Andrew Benfield, a
writer and meditation teacher, has spent years looking for Yeti with his skeptical friend
and political analyst, Richard Horsey. I'm sorry. The pair traveled through India,
Mayan, mar Nepal and Bhutan. I don't know how you pronounced that
properly, but bouton listening to stories about the legendary creature and eventually making I'm
doing air quotes right now, Yeddi ABBC Radio four series about their search.
The series did finish on a cliffhanger back in June A mysterious hair supplied by
an unnamed source awaiting DNA analysis, and that was published October twentieth has now
revealed the hair came from a horse. Well, of course, because your
partner is named Horsey now, Benfield told Live Science, which happens to be
an online science news site. The result didn't feel good after three years of
searching. A horse was about as boring as we could get, Benfield said,
But the DNA analysis doesn't invalidate the series or the stories of people they
spoke to. According to the pair for a pair of life, so to
wrap up tales of an ape like creature roaming the Himalayas day back centuries.
Western interest in the Yetti or abominable snowman, took off in the early nineteen
fifties after British mountaineer Eric shift In returned from Everest with photos of giant footprints.
Subsequent investigations led by Westerners failed to find any scientific evidence of the creature's
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It's keep your toes in the mud. Well, thanks fans for that
wonderful segment. We'll keep our toes in the mud. I'm due for a
pedicure anyhow here soon, so don't knock it, guys. Butt hygiene is
important. Yes, it is good good health. Good foot health is important
to your overall health, you know best. So if you're a hiker,
right, prevent those infections, keep them clean, get them taken care of.
Pamper yourself a little bit. To hear those bies you can't hike without
feet, well you can. You get one of those all terrained rascals or
those you know, just more difficult to do it without legs. Sure,
but just put them in a backpack like Yoda. Even without legs, I
would still be a hell of a haul for somebody two hundred and fifty pounds.
There's no try, mother. I We digress as always, so before
we went to the break where you're talking about that ritual that was observed by
the hiker up and upstate New York or Essex County, New York, and
just something very fascinating about that. But we're going to segue that into something
pretty interesting that Matt discovered and brought up. So Matt, I'll give it
to you to take it us into the next segment. Ah, thank you.
The April eighth, twenty nineteen Smithsonian magazine talks about an article with gorillas
that appear to greed for their dead h So if we're looking at a Sashquatch
as a as an eight, we're probably gonna put them along right along the
lines of a gorilla, or we're gonna say that a lot of their behaviors
could be similar to them. And one fascinating observation that they made was they
had a pair of dominant males that have passed away a year from each other.
And this was actually in Rwanda, so it wasn't in in a zoo,
this was this was out in a while, and they observed what the
what the the tribe of the gorillas did when when these two males passed the
first one. What they what they noticed was that they would the pact members
would gather around the bodies and they would touch it, touch the body,
they would groom the body. They found that the especially with the females,
the females were very strong with whether it was a male or a female,
that they would actually groom it. So they're they're cleaning the hair, they're
they're taking bugs off, and they would have an interaction with the body for
at least two or three days post death. What they did find, excuse
me, was that there were some males, they would sometimes you know,
fall along with the females, but there was other times that they would become
antagonistic towards the bodies. They would do chest beating, they would vocalize where
they may hit or kick the corpse. So you do have that where they're
still thinking that there's that there could be some sort of pack structure amongst them,
and and that's their way of basically, you know, establishing that you
know that dominant mail is no longer the dominant creature even as he passed,
but they did see that there was other juvenile males particularly that would spend some
time with the with the deceased dominant males, they may actually go into the
nest the same nest as as that dominant male as a as a late decease.
So there's a lot of similarities I think with with mammals in general,
where they do, especially at a higher intelligence, they do seem to have
a grieving process. That so but again that's Smithsonian Magazine. It's gorillas appear
to grief for their dead. Google it. It's a it's a great article
to read and it falls right along with what we're discussing. I'll post the
links to all our articles in the show notes. So folks have them been
doing that lately to give our folks where we're getting our information from. It's
really important think that we cite the you know, folks can get out there
and read it and make up their own minds on these topics that we're talking
about. But we're doing our due diligence and trying to provide you guys with
some sources and do with that as you wish. Henry, what do you
got for You've been awful silent on the topic of big fooding for death.
One thing that we find sometimes we can find thing is the reports we hear
about of sasquatch being seen near gread yards cemeteries. Now you wonder what's significant
something. Why are they there the cemetery? Are they observing humans the way
they grieve? Yeah, they wonder about that. It's an interesting, you
know, observation, Henry, And again something that's not often been talked about.
Do they, you know, in their ever ending observations of us as
we notice these things, seem to be curious about what we do. Had
they adapted any of their tech niques to what we do? You know,
if it's a highly evolved, smart creature. Have they observed we handle our
dead? You know, we've been bearing bodies since the Neanderthals, right,
so you know, how have these things maybe adapted and learned over the years.
And you know, that's a great point, Henry, A lot of
these There have been a decent amount of sightings notated around cemeteries, you know,
the whole grieving process. As we go back to that article, which
and again is one of the first articles I'm aware of or reports of actually
witnessing some sort of ceremony, which is still kind of gobsmacking to me a
little bit. I just read that today and I got all giddy about it
because of you know, the show tonight. But it's new information, and
if it's exciting to me, I'm sure it's going to be exciting, just
as Advance's epiphany that the nesting site may not be a nesting site at all,
but a burial site. You know. I was going back and I
have the old iPad many here, which is one of the best ere can
go get yourself one of them, but Sasquat shapes among us available in e
book. I have two physical copies and one portable take with me everywhere I
go again. I mentioned it very briefly at the beginning of the show,
chapter twenty, page three sixty six, where the bones. You know,
this question has gone back since we started looking for this thing. What happens
to these what happens to the body? You know? And that's not the
first time it's ever been brought up, and John talks about it in that
chapter. I'm not going to read the chapter line and verse, but you
know, we often talk about institutions that have there been bodies found and have
their bones been sent to institutions. We've heard about stories with the Smithsonian and
giant bones or you know, giant bones that have gone missing from all these
institutions. But to surmise, what John says is that he finds it hard
to believe that in every instance that you know, he's asked institutions about these
bones, they've not had any right, you know, that they all that
they were sent to have disappeared, right like, So to his point that
it's not that they never not that they disappeared, but they were never received
to begin with. There's probably just more wise tales spun by researchers out there,
which kind of goes back to James Baker's original point doesn't exist, and
that would really suck considering that, you know, tens of thousands of people
say so. The point that Matt brought up porcupine. Porcupine is one of
the most prevalent mammals that completely will devour any kind of calcium based bone and
they will completely bower it. That's what they do, and they do it
for a nutritional reason. And every species, it seems like from you know,
maggots and worms and bacteria will completely decompose a body within a very short
period of time. And when I say short period of time, I'm talking
within you know, seven day period and there's no trace of that body left
anymore. But porcupine pick up on that and they completely go after the calcium
and they will devour the bone. Is crazy as that may seem, but
that's what they do. So each individual organism has its own structure and its
own direction in order to bring back a decomposed or a dead entity back to
the earth again. You know, you know, the circle of life.
Let's go back to the old king. But you know it's a circle of
life. Every individual party and its own instruction on what it's supposed to do
with the deceased vance. You got to run for Senate. Where's James Baker?
Okay, we hit the mute button. Anyhow, what I was gonna
say, engineer talking about driving a point vance, you could mow a point
down and kill one hundred people with it. Anyhow, what I was saying
is as Baker's you know, riding the Chuchu there, think of bears,
one of the largest mammals we have in the forest of North America. How
many bears have you stumbled upon dead in the woods? None? I've never
stumbled upon a dead one. Now in my research, I've seen a couple
photos of people that have posted them, and I've never said they didn't exist.
I've seen more bear dead along the highway than one I have alive in
the woods for one and two more than I've ever seen dead in the woods.
And they're a large mammal. And so what do bears do when they
die? Generally what any sort of wild animal like that, They're going to
find the most remote, hidden spot and they're just going to, you know,
find a place where whether it's an old den or or just a ravine
somewhere and they're gonna And again the article from the Smithsonian does touch upon this,
where some of the gorillas that knew that they were dying, they would
they would walk away from the pack. So eventually they're going to find that
place where they can just find comfort and then that's it. So that's something
that again and that's an excelle point. There's eighteen thousand bears as of the
last count estimate for Pennsylvania. There's twenty five thousand plus coyotes in Pennsylvania.
And these are two larger I won't really call them apex pretors, but they're
they're at the top, they're predators, and they're again I spend a lot
of time out in the woods. I have yet to find the sea spere
that's that's a natural death. I've yet to find a coyote that has started
a natural death. You know, we see them, you know, if
they've been shot or they get hit by a car. But if they're dying
from a natural death, you don't find those bones, you don't find that
body anywhere. Right. So now, a couple that, couple that bat
with the fact that most people doing this research, most people there are exceptions,
aren't going miles upon miles upon miles into the woods. You know,
we kind of have our range that we go to for comfort, and we
kind of habituize a place ourselves that we go to get used to, so
we could notice there's any abnormalities. But above and beyond that, how often
do we go in you know, I'm not talking about your Appalachian trail hikers,
because even that's a trail, you know, trail. How far are
we venturing into the nose zones, the remote zones to look for this stuff?
We're not, you know, we're not going ten fifteen, twenty twenty
five miles into the wilderness. That's the hell of a hike back. And
you know, if people are going out there, they ain't coming back too
often, So I know something to be said about that too. So if
this thing is not much different than any other mammals that you know, we've
you know, we've talked about, or any other you know, maybe like
the bear, another other mammals, it ventures off into the wilderness and does
its things, maybe they get I have I've heard a series and have read
I'm not only heard, but I have read a series of reports of domestic
house cats that are both indoor and outdoor. And when an elder cat is
not well, it wanders off, and it wanders off to a point where
it's going to die and it's not to be seen again. And then the
posters go up a missing cat. And it's quite possible that these creatures understand
that its demise is a prevalent and it's just going to go to its point
where it needs to die. And I don't know. And I always say
I don't know, because I really I don't know. I want to know,
but I really don't know. There's one more mystery on this, you
know, fascinating subject. Guys, any final thloughts you want to drive home
on this? Well, I wanted to bring up Matt go ahead, and
then Baker will hit you after that. Okay, yeah, I was kind
of bring up you had touched upon the body, you know, maybe a
bones being found the Smithsonian. One person I fall on Facebook who is He's
kind of a good all around researcher. He does his homework and he's also
out in the field quite a bit as less Odell down West Virginia. And
recently he's been posting a lot of these old newspaper articles from you know,
from papers primarily in the East Coast where they talked about you know, wild
man encounters. But the one that he that he posted recently was about finding
bones. You know, these these seven foot bones that had different skulls and
than what normal humans would have. They were found near the mounds in Ohio
and those bones had disappear in it. And again this is something that he
he found in a newspaper probably from the turn of the twentieth century, that
he was able to grab that and post that. There's a lot of stuff
that's in these old newspapers that that you know, may have our answers,
and it's people like less Henry some of the other people that are that are
doing that that really deep research into the historical side that you know, maybe
be able to help us find the answer. Go ahead, bag Well,
you brought up a point about the Neanderthals used to bury their dead, and
I kind of posted a thing about why we bury are dead. Even as
the beginning was a lot of it was because it was unsanitary to the areas
that you lived in, and because you didn't want to watch your relatives decompose,
and you're you know, feeling you know, feelings that you had towards
them. But the other thing, you know, so if an animal that's
intelligent, even though on a Neanderthal level, it would feel the same way.
Hey, I don't want I don't want Pappy dead in the cave for
the next fifteen years. I got to look at that well, you know,
but we want to put it away from the water source, and we
want to put it away from this. The other thing is with with like
I said, as like a lot of stuff that goes on once you die,
and if you would die in the woods from an animal attack or something
or whatever, is a lot of times like your body gets scattered to a
point. But even if we found the skeletal structure, kind of like what
Matt was talking about, is where would you take it? Because a lot
of people wouldn't believe you. You know. I always remember the movie Gargoyles.
I don't know if you guys remember. It was nineteen nineteen seventies,
nineteen eighties. Great movie. But like the old man, the drunk old
guy that runs a weird little shot had had a gargoyle the whole thing,
and he's like, you know, and he had the Indian legends and he
had the whole thing and he was completely right. But it was a drunk
old. The guy's like they just sewed this together. Look this is from
a blood No no, no, no, no, real, you just
I'm sorry, I just And that's the problem. Is if you found a
sasquatch and we're touched on this week's ago, is if you found a sasquatch
body, what step two? You know, like, because if something it
then something's kind of watching it too, you know, like you don't bury
Grandpa in the cemetery and then forget it was there, or you know,
you look at the paper over something and if you notice somebody's Robin Graves,
you might chat, you know, you know. So I mean like it's
something to think about. It is one is step two if you found the
body, you know, And we'll go back and listen to that episode of
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