WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.919 The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect 2 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:09.119 the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:17.320 As always, listener discretion is advised. We got someone or company blowing around 4 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:26.120 out here. Did you walk among us working in the forests of our world? 5 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.840 Did you see what it was? Was it a person or an animal? 6 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:35.280 Or I can't go? Oh, I know it's that if my thunder 7 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:38.840 light came on and I get happened to glen and see this thing running across 8 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:42.240 the yard, a good fight man or nothing works like a man. I 9 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:51.320 don't know what it was. For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, 10 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:57.240 researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the 11 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:07.400 existence of this mysterious entity. Jesus quite big arp. Hello, get somebody 12 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:10.680 out here. What's going on? Announce there? Got a mention about six 13 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:12.760 foot nine? I don't know, easy, announce there. Yeah, I'm 14 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:18.640 working right her. Oh, okay, hang on, this is he your 15 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:21.879 yard, sir? Yeah? Got it's bigger? Okay, what's he doing 16 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:34.400 in your yard? To join us? As we continue into the investigation of 17 00:01:34.519 --> 00:02:00.000 the Sasquatch experience, and good evening everyone. Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience. 18 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:04.840 I'm Sean the Fort Chop Forker, James Baker popping up there like an unwelcome 19 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.400 direction, Matt Arner, Henry May and you can't see him, but he's 20 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:15.080 there. Vans nestbit folks, John Cena, Yes, oh yeah, that's 21 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.840 terrible, and go ahead and make your joke. You know, Henry with 22 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:21.080 the shaved head. Come on, you said it right before we went on 23 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:29.879 air. It was funny preparation age, pripple age, preparation age anyhow, 24 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:31.400 that's how that's how this kicks off, guys. Right before we go on 25 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:37.080 air, Baker gets his quips in and then we get ready to unFocus as 26 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.159 we try to bring you some great content tonight. Guys, got a strange 27 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:43.199 show for us, and not a strange show, really interesting show. One 28 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:50.719 of our patreons asked us to there's Vance asked us to discuss what happens to 29 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.919 Bigfoot after they, you know, become deceased they pass away, and I 30 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.639 thought, well, not something we ever talked about, I guess in great 31 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.800 lengths in the past. And as we start winding up the what better way 32 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:05.719 to think about than death and you know what comes after during the most magical 33 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.240 time of the year. So I figured, well, let's talk about Bigfoot 34 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:13.360 after death. And there's some very interesting points that will go over and some 35 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:15.919 talking discussions. But first, I had a good show last week, guys 36 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:22.120 with the Big Muddy Monster some good reception or social media folks, you can 37 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:27.840 find us on Facebook, Instagram, x Sasquatch Experience except for on x which 38 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.919 is at squatch exp which you can find the links by going to our website 39 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:35.719 Sasquatch Experience dot com. Or you can become a Patreon and support us for 40 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.759 as little as two dollars a month. That's right, become a Patreon supports 41 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:45.919 for two dollars months. But aside from that shameless plod YouTube, you're starting 42 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:50.599 to get some comments on YouTube and the one comment that sticks out was comment 43 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.280 from a gentleman who will remain nameless. You can go on and see them, 44 00:03:53.840 --> 00:04:05.919 but it was one word lies. You can't right, thank you of 45 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:11.319 what lies we're talking about. But yeah, please be a little bit more 46 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:14.639 defined about what you're asking us to clarify in terms of lies. Rather, 47 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.759 you think the whole thing was a bananigan's and a hoax. But I assure 48 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:23.600 you that there was no lies coming from our mouths, intentionally just reading the 49 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:30.000 reports of folks we were there at the time and felt they needed to share 50 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.319 this with the world. So lies, be a little bit more specific. 51 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:40.360 Don't be a rube, bring it clear, bring it anyhow. That's all 52 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:44.199 I wanted to say about that lies. But on that note, as I 53 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:47.040 inappropriately and unprofessionally clear my throat, we got a good show, guys. 54 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.759 So by the way, Spotify came out. As you see all our podcast 55 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:55.160 friends, they're posting their pictures and everything. We had a good year and 56 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.519 it's just getting better. And as I posted tonight on Facebook that you know 57 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.879 this show for you the listener. We enjoy doing it. It's a passion 58 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:05.360 for us because we love the big hairy guy. But please take the time 59 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:09.759 to like us, review us, give us. Really, it's important that 60 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.600 you give us good feedback that's meaningful. I don't mean good that. Oh 61 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:15.959 you like us, you'll love us. If there's not something we're doing right, 62 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:18.839 let us know so we can try to fix it, and we do 63 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.959 our best to bring you a high quality show, and sometimes we miss the 64 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.839 mark understandably. So we have issues and we're trying to work through them on 65 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:30.839 the limited budget and time and the training we have. But we are getting 66 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:35.360 better, and so give us that important feedback, that clear, concise feedback 67 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:40.959 and fair feedback, and of course we will modify and adjust as we can. 68 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.680 Got a great article from Matt sending to me, which we'll definitely talk 69 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.079 about when we get started. Guys, anything you want to touch on before 70 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:51.920 we go off. We'll start at James Work around the Clock, James, 71 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:58.680 Matt, Henry, and then vance not. I got nothing. I'm waiting 72 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.800 for the subject. I have all kinds of things on that, all right, 73 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:06.959 Matt, go ahead, anything for you? Not really, I'm just 74 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:12.480 securing it for the holiday season, and we're gonna have another weekend out in 75 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.560 the woods coming up this weekend, so you know, I'll be I'll be 76 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:20.240 out. Keep my eyes open, Henry, what do you got? Well? 77 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:26.360 I finished Matt Threwit's book, The Phenomenal Sasquatch. I really liked it. 78 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.959 We'll be able to dry size as far as science step, but I 79 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:36.199 enjoyed it was a good book, good read. Yeah, The Phenomenal Sasquatch 80 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:40.920 is a great book. It is a little scientific and wordy, but if 81 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:45.160 you're someone that enjoys those things, like I think Matt and myself have a 82 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.920 have a tendency to go on for those things, it's right up our alley. 83 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.639 But Henry, you did give it a really good review. It's a 84 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:55.959 great book, and yeah, you should check it out and Vans anything for 85 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:02.360 you. My breast implants to write Patty from the PG film. It's rather 86 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:10.519 well and I'm just kidding about all. You know. I want to into 87 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:16.160 this topic. It's upon all of us to talk about tonight because I have 88 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:21.240 a couple of points. If any of the other members of this squad here 89 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:27.439 will not bring up, I would love to bring up. Okay, very 90 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.680 good, Okay, Well that we'll get started, guys tonight talking about Bigfoot 91 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:34.319 after death. I had the pods there because we didn't call it Where's the 92 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:41.399 Bones. Where's the Bones is actually chapter tanty of John Green's book Sasquatch Dabs 93 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.560 among Us where we talk about this. But James, go ahead, I'll 94 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.279 let you get started because you're busted at the seams. So we were kind 95 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.959 of having a discussion. Someone had asked, you know, where's the body? 96 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:54.920 Why haven't we found one? You know, why why would I you 97 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.720 know, how would afford a six hundred pound and you know two to six 98 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:03.000 hundred pound animal just disappear? And I did a lot of reading on this, 99 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:07.399 and I wanted to talk about the I kind of three theories on it. 100 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.560 One of them will make people angry, and I'm okay with it. 101 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:15.759 I'll start with that. One it doesn't exist, okay. Two is it's 102 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:22.920 highly intelligent, or three is it's a animal and it eats a debt. 103 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:26.759 We're gonna really focus on two and three, or we're gonna focus on two 104 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:31.920 and three more than we will on one, because scientifically, I couldn't prove 105 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:35.919 any of the three options. So but I we have talked about many times 106 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:41.600 about whether they're smart and they bury their dead or they whatever. And I 107 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:43.759 know Sean has some information on that, so I won't take that away from 108 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:50.360 him. But my time. So I've been talking to dn R or the 109 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.600 Pennsylvania Pennsylvania Outdoors and a variety of other ones, and a lot of them 110 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:01.559 like you pick any animal out in the wild, well, they don't die 111 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.000 of old ay, it matters to where you are on the food chain, 112 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:09.399 to how long you survive and what happens to your body. So, for 113 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:13.960 instance, a deer most cases do not live, you know, of old 114 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.799 age. They get shot by a hunter or killed by a wolf, or 115 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.440 break their leg and rot, you know whatever. But they usually die of 116 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:26.559 old egg. A smaller animal like a mouse might get eaten by a bird, 117 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.440 variety of things. Okay, so they took They were talking about how 118 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:37.000 wolves have anywhere, have a range of up to two hundred miles sometimes, 119 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.840 so the wolf would say, kill a deer, and let's say the deer 120 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.960 weigh one hundred pounds. When the wolf killed it, they would take it 121 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.440 in the pack, or the single wolf would take it back to its wolflings. 122 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.279 I guess pack is the best word I can think of it at the 123 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:58.679 moment. And I would and would and would and would take the body of 124 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.679 what it want it. Now that body is laying there with what's left now, 125 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.200 any other scavengers or even larger carnivores like even banners, will take a 126 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:15.000 chunk. Because bearers don't eat their meat as much. They put it in 127 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.919 a dry lo They put it in a location and then they eat the bugs 128 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.399 off it. So now you have a deer kircus that was let's say, 129 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.720 one hundred pounds, now it's about forty pounds. Smaller animals will take what 130 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:28.240 they want, the bugs will take what they want. But they say, 131 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:33.320 in general, matters how cold it is, how hot it is, where 132 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.360 you live, humidities. There's a whole lot of really special math. And 133 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.759 if you want to read the books, have at it. Okay, But 134 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:45.519 James, we sat through a presentation from doctor John Manzinski about bears, which 135 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:50.559 was very interesting and just adding more credibility to what you were saying of when 136 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.440 we were told that the bears don't eat the meat, they let it faster, 137 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.320 and then they eat the maggots because they're easier for the bears to digest, 138 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:01.159 like the blood. Little grotesque. I get it. You know it's 139 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.679 coming from a professional, folks, James, and I just didn't make that 140 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:09.200 up. It was science, okay, from a scientist. I mean to 141 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.679 step anybody, I'm sorry, no, no, it's fine. We were 142 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:18.200 So you now have a smaller carcass, and now you have that carcass anywhere 143 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.720 you know, in the next one hundred fifty to one hundred miles is spread 144 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:26.919 all over the place. They say. The average body outside without any kind 145 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.399 of burial or anything like that usually only lasts maybe you know, a week, 146 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.240 you know, and then you're down to bones. The bugs pick them 147 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.840 clean. And the thing is that if the body is spread over miles, 148 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.320 you might not notice a full skeletal of something. You may just see a 149 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:48.360 bone, or you may whatever. So as far as as far as I 150 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:54.759 think is because if we believe that Bigfoot is truly alive and not a spiritual 151 00:11:54.799 --> 00:12:00.320 animal or fake okay, then there's the potential of a three h under to 152 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:05.720 four hundred pound beast disappearing. Because how many deer and Matt might have a 153 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.720 better idea or even or even you know, could being a hunter. How 154 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:15.480 many deer die yearly that we didn't kill. But yet there's not deer carcasses 155 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.799 from you know, from here to whatever. The carcass has just gone. 156 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.200 Same with bear. Bears die and like I said, the higher on the 157 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.919 food chain, the less the older they will get. But like you know, 158 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:33.039 like a deer would be, a deer dies breaks its leg and we'll 159 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.639 say, some wolves pick at it, and then coyotes pick at it. 160 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.320 And then this pecks at it, and the birds pick at it and whatever. 161 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.039 So within a week it's down to bone and the bugs are eating the 162 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:48.840 bones. So a large body could disappear, and there's physical proof if you 163 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.919 look in the Animal Kingdom answer the question did a whole episode on I think 164 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.759 it was the swamp creatures and how long it would last, something, something 165 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.559 would last out there, and they did timeline of photography and life. In 166 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.120 no time, it went from being a full carcass to nothing. Not even 167 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:09.320 a Greece We had the same situation kind of. We had a little area 168 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.279 where we were planting strawberry to try to bait in animals. There was a 169 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:18.480 dog that was dead. We didn't kill it. We're not creepers, okay, 170 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.279 whatever. It was maybe dead a week or two and we weren't gonna 171 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:24.639 disturb it. We came back about two weeks later and it was boned. 172 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.000 You know, something was picking at it. So, I mean, the 173 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:33.360 science is there of what could have happened to the box. I can tell 174 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:37.840 you nothing. There's nothing more morbid than something upon a dead dog. Yeah, 175 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.919 no, you know, no explanation of all the things defined in the 176 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:46.600 woods. That's just not right. A dog was definitely probably the most disturbing. 177 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.080 Well, we got followed by that white van that was more disturbing. 178 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.919 But and I was talking to Matt a little bit about how the police use 179 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:01.759 pig carcasses to kind of get an idea of how body react to certain environments. 180 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.919 So take it away to Matt. Well, we have been using pig 181 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:11.879 archaices and that's something that a lot of the a forensic anthropologists will use. 182 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.120 However, what we generally do is we have people that donate their their bodies 183 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.919 to science, and we have body farms. They're the three biggest body farms 184 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.399 right now. There's one in Texas that's the original, there's one in Tennessee, 185 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.000 and there's also one in Florida. And the one in Texas is more 186 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.720 they have a very habitat, but it's more that dry, arid environment. 187 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:45.600 The one in Tennessee is more of a mountainous environment. And obviously the one 188 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:50.200 that that's in Florida you have the higher humidity, you have the you know, 189 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:56.919 just the different organisms down there that will quickly take care of a body. 190 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.120 So like if you look up any of the videos, they'll actually put 191 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:07.720 fencing up around the bodies just so that they can see what happens to the 192 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:13.720 body without it being disturbed by animals. Because when you do remove those those 193 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:20.080 fences, the animals will will clear that area where the body is in a 194 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:26.080 matter of days. That There's one famous video I tried to find. I 195 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.519 couldn't. I couldn't get in time, but there was actually a deer that 196 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:33.440 was that was eating the bones from a human in one of the body farms. 197 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:39.159 But the one thing is is there out yes, absolutely. The one 198 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.759 thing is though, is that we're out in the woods, and which is 199 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:46.600 where you know, we do a lot of our research. Something that lives 200 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:54.600 out in the woods that absolutely thrives on bones is porcupines. Porcupines. Porcupines 201 00:15:54.759 --> 00:16:00.279 will absolutely clear skeleton and no time at all. So you do have creatures 202 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:06.879 like that. Mice will feed on the hair. Yes, they will feed 203 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:10.360 on the on the bones as well, but they're primarily going to go for 204 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:15.679 the hair and and and other you know deposits from the body. And then 205 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.039 of course you have to you know, organisms like the maggots, which will 206 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:26.480 just clean any tissue from from a body from the inside out. They'll go 207 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:33.000 into an orifice such as your eye's mouth rect them and as soon as they 208 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:37.200 lay some eggs, that's it. Yeah, I had to bring that up. 209 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.759 Well, No, I mean that's accurate because my friend is a taxidermist. 210 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.960 He goes they have boxes that they put them skulls in from the deer 211 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:51.159 and whatever in that box as he bugs in it and like a day and 212 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:55.679 a half, that thing is clearer of whisp. Yes. Yeah, And 213 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:59.320 you can actually buy those beetles. There are specific breed of beetles. You 214 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.320 can buy them, I believe on Amazon. You can actually get a box 215 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:07.720 of these beetles and if you have a skull, they will clean the the 216 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:12.519 the all the tissue off and have that skull clean in literally two or three 217 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:18.279 days. Right. So, but there are different stages when we go through 218 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:27.079 and you know, when we look at the try to determine a time of 219 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:33.680 death, where we look at how far as the person remained in rigor mortous 220 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:40.279 is it now into you know, a decomposition mode, how far into decomposition 221 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:45.519 mode hasn't been has there been anything to to you know, to affect the 222 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.480 area where the crime scene, where the where the body was. So there's 223 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.960 all those factors that come into play with that. And we're talking about humans, 224 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.799 you know, but again, if we're talking about a large animal, 225 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.519 you know, we're we're going to use a lot of those same principles. 226 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.359 Mm hmm. Fans, what do you have to add? Here's what I 227 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:10.839 have to add. I had an epiphany. If anybody knows the definition of 228 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:18.240 hyphany, I happened to watch I believe it was this past Sunday, small 229 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:26.920 town monsters revisiting the nesting site. And it went from the first visitation of 230 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:34.039 the nesting site with doctor Meldrum and then the current Eric Randalls and Sean Corson, 231 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:40.160 and you know, they explained that this nesting site, you know a 232 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:47.839 lot of the shrubbery and leaves were stripped from the trees and were you know, 233 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.319 packed on the ground. I'm wondering, maybe that's not a nesting site, 234 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:57.680 Maybe that's a grave, because Sean, I've seen you bury the bodies 235 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:03.000 in the backyard and you take a shovel and you take that shovel all the 236 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:08.759 dirt over the grave, right, And maybe that's the possibility. That is 237 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:17.720 not necessarily a bedding site, but it could possibly be a grave where one 238 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:23.960 has passed away and we have learned through biology that you know, there are 239 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:32.400 several animals that experienced remorse and badness. The first thing I would bring up 240 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:37.440 is the crow. You know, the entire birds season crow and raven and 241 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:45.279 is extremely as intelligent that they are. When their phone has fallen, they 242 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:53.400 gather around in trees above where the fallen has gone down that and some of 243 00:19:53.440 --> 00:20:00.400 these crows have got trinket, whether it's broken glass or tinfoil, and they 244 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:06.400 leave it by the body and they hang there for a number of hours before 245 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:14.160 they leave the area. They are giving a consent to one that has fallen. 246 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.039 And elephants, you know, we've all heard old the elephant graveyard. 247 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:23.640 Yeah there, that's kind of a wives tale with the elephant graveyard that they 248 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:27.319 all travel to the same spot and they all die in the same spot. 249 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:37.000 That's a wive's tale. But elephants and chimpanzees primates, they grieve when they 250 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:45.960 lose a significant mate or a young one. They do Greek and it's clearly 251 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:52.400 evidence through biology to see that there's a grieving going on over a dead carcass. 252 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.160 Now, if you don't have a bipedal creature, which I believe that 253 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:03.839 there is and you know it. He's also it may have the intelligence to 254 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:11.559 bury it's loved one or a you know, cohort among the family, whatever 255 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.599 it is, and bury it and then you know, pack it down to 256 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:21.359 the ground. And when I watched that Small Town Monsters, you know, 257 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:27.680 visiting revisiting the nest site, wondering maybe there's a possibility that's actually a grave 258 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:37.039 not necessarily please for scleep. That's fascinating now before go ahead, Matt, 259 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:38.880 and then I want to jump into this article. Yeah, really really quick. 260 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:45.279 I also watch that too in the ELI and the Olympic Project to people. 261 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.440 I mean, they did a fantastic job with that, and I'm looking 262 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.400 forward to to the second part, so hopefully if they could get that going 263 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:57.720 for us. But anyways, one thing that I would suggest is taking and 264 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:02.920 you can get it. You can bring them more into the into the bad 265 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:06.720 country. Now it's not like it was twenty years ago, but ground penetraying 266 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:11.680 radar, and if you're able to find a depression, if you're able to 267 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:17.160 find a hollowed area underneath those nests, I think your hypothesis it could be 268 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:22.119 correct. And you know, it's definitely worth it too. I did see 269 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.400 that they that they did dig through those. But if you're talking about something 270 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:32.000 that maybe it dug down about three four feet, you know what happens is 271 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:36.359 once your your body's going to be covered by the dirt and then as it 272 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:42.079 decomposes, you're actually going to have almost like a like a depression there from 273 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:47.359 where where that body was. Eventually it's going to be it's gonna go to 274 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:51.319 bone, but at some point you're always going to have that even if it's 275 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:56.200 even if it collapses, you're still going to have that small amount of basically 276 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:03.359 open space that would match up to way care uscles are created similar very similar 277 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.200 to that. So if the Olympic Project, if they're able to get a 278 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:11.160 ground penetring radar up to up to those sites to see if there's something underneath, 279 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.720 that may be very fruitful. And you know, and like I said, 280 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.920 nowadays there's units that they could get that they would be able to bring 281 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.880 into the back country. But as ten years ago, back even back in 282 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.400 twenty fourteen when they found your when they found the first ones, we were 283 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:32.160 still using the ones that looked like lawnmowers. So it's very true, man, 284 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.759 And that's a good point. However, not penny penetrating right there. 285 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.599 That's not a dollar fifty to go to lows and go buy one. Yeah, 286 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.319 they've got backers, they've got backers. I don't know that any times 287 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:51.920 be able to afford to buy one and bring it just for that one specific 288 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.359 research. However, it's a possibility if you dig into the ground, you 289 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:00.880 might be able to find something, I don't know, to all one of 290 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:04.319 those things out there with them. Yeah, it's not as easy as it 291 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:08.240 was done in Jurassic Art to find the velociraptor and say, oh look, 292 00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:15.920 no it's not Yeah, that's a high foot process. I don't want to 293 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.720 see these guys be spending money on something that I just came up with a 294 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:26.000 hypothesis on. But it's possible, I guess. I don't know. I 295 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:29.400 don't know till you try. You don't know till you try. But as 296 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:32.440 we're still on this topic, before we go to our break, I want 297 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:37.880 to get through this article. A very timely article today posted by Lawn Strickler, 298 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:42.240 and it was just you know, it's kiss met because we're talking about 299 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.839 you know, the bigfoot. You know what happens after they pass away? 300 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.759 He got an article today, day of December fourth, twenty twenty three, 301 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:55.599 over at Fantoms and Monsters dot com did Pharaoh Lake, New York resident witness 302 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:59.119 a sasquatch Burio ritual. I got lone's permission to read this. I'm going 303 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:03.319 to read it for Beata. The following email was quite strange and I felt 304 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.400 at the time needed further investigation. The email was written as a draft, 305 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:11.079 including an outline that was added with other notations. It was an odd format, 306 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.079 but the information was verified. When I contacted the submitter, I was 307 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.519 asked to write the commentary since they felt that they were not able to compose 308 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.200 a story that would be understood by the readers. I affwarded a copy of 309 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.880 my final composition to d D, which was approved. I inquired about the 310 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:32.000 witnesses the cousin willingness to be interviewed, but the notation was rebuffed. Since 311 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.559 the information was sent to me was done so without the knowledge of the witness. 312 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:40.640 All specific personal location and disclosure was agreed to be kept in confidence. 313 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.920 But here's a transcript. During the holidays Christmas twenty ten, I was able 314 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.839 to talk to a cousin who lives in the Faro Lake area in New York. 315 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:53.240 He is a conservationalist and an advocate for nature conservation. He recently made 316 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:57.839 a discovery that is fascinating but pains him since the information would most likely lead 317 00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:03.880 to bigfoot hunters decimating wildlife in pristine forests. While hiking and camping in a 318 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.960 fairly remote force in Essex County, New York, the most specific location he'll 319 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:14.240 give, they came across what he describes as a sasquatch ritual burial. One 320 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:17.640 evening, while he was making his way back to camp, he heard muffled 321 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:22.240 grunting coming from his right. His attention was directed towards a thick stand of 322 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:26.079 sugar maple trees. He crouched down behind a large fallen tree and witnessed three 323 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:33.440 large, hairy bipedal figures sasquatch standing around a large tree stump. It looked 324 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.279 like a large female who towered among her companions. He estimated that she was 325 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.880 eight foot plus and that the others were about five to six feet tall. 326 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:47.240 Each one of the figures was swaying and grunting. This activity continued for almost 327 00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:52.240 ten minutes when they suddenly stopped and started to run in the opposite direction he 328 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.319 was fearful that they had noticed his presence somehow. Since it was now getting 329 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.279 dark, he decided to continue to his camp and return the next day. 330 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.440 The next morning, he anxiously made his way back to the site where he 331 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.920 had seen the sasquatch. When he reached the site, he noticed a four 332 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.920 foot high hollow sugar maple stump with four gray squirrel tails attached to the top 333 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:17.599 edge and suspended outside the stump. It looked like a sword of decoration. 334 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:22.039 He also noticed a terrible stench that reminded him a very strong heroin. He 335 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.200 looked into the stump. It was empty, but there was some dark fur, 336 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.200 a few blood stains, and a large piece of old deer hide. 337 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.039 He surmises that the sasquatch may have buried a small child or infant in the 338 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.279 stump, and that they either came back to move it after noticing him, 339 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.240 or that a scavenger took it during the night. Do you believe that this 340 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.680 could have been a sasquatch funeral or ritual burial? Dd? And the final 341 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:49.920 note is when I originally posted this commentary, I received responses from several doubters, 342 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:55.160 but no one was able to offer an alternative reason for the actions of 343 00:27:55.200 --> 00:28:00.119 the Sasquatch. Is it possible that sasquat conducts spiritual rituals? And you know, 344 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:06.319 and again so we go to you know, kind of an amalgamation of 345 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.359 some of the things we've talked about tonight. You know, Baker, you 346 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:14.000 know, what's their intelligence levels? Do these Does nature take care of their 347 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.839 own? Is there some sort of ritualistic And why not if there are more 348 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.440 people, as more people like as folks claim they have an intelligence like man, 349 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.680 why would they not have their own ritual? Jamie King post wonder if 350 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:32.599 they utilize a morning shelter similar to indigenous tribes to mark or the area is 351 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.519 sacred ground? And kind of what that person witnessed. And I know we 352 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.799 could take that, we could take that report and we could laugh it off, 353 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.880 and you know, market is silly. But the thing is it's very 354 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.559 specific. And I've not seen or heard of a lot of reports like that 355 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:56.119 ever, right, And so imagine the rarity of observing a sasquatch to begin 356 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.119 with. But now you've not only seen one, you've seen read and you 357 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.279 may have seen some sort of ritual. I don't know if i'd have the 358 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.880 balls to report with anybody, to be honest with you, thoughts on that 359 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:14.880 general true. Well, you know when you when these reports of researchers that 360 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.400 go on in the field and they say, hey, there's treat branches made 361 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:26.759 into an X. Maybe the X is representing a spot where one has fallen. 362 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:33.640 I get it's just speculation, but maybe one has fallen in that area 363 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.039 and that's their recognition to stay out of that area give respect, or one 364 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:42.440 has fallen and has been buried. Well, you know, I'm still kind 365 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:49.759 of on your nesting site hypotheses because to me, that's not something that had 366 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:55.759 occurred to me ever until you just brought that up. That's pretty fascinating, 367 00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.160 folks. We're going to take a quick break here. It's nine point thirty 368 00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:00.160 two, little late in the news. We come back, we'll carry onto 369 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.440 this conversation. I'm Sean Forker, He's James Baker, that's Matt Arner. 370 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.039 Vince has been in preparation age. Henry May down there in the corner. 371 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:12.319 Thank you James for that nickname, and we'll be right back. Enjoy it. 372 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:18.960 Smoke them if you got them. We'll be back. Tuesteave a sib. 373 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:26.960 Wait what now it's the bottom of the hour. Well, I better 374 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:33.160 get prepared, then put out some papers and read some stuff. There it 375 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:38.440 is, there's your paper sound effect. Oh, welcome to this edition of 376 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:45.480 the Big Distraction, Bigfoot Bullhorn, exclusively on the Sasquatch experience. Oh my 377 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:52.319 god, who the hell has great? Anyway, we are in the descend 378 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:59.759 of the dark season while simultaneously holding hands with the holiday season. Imagine, 379 00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:04.279 I'm much we would save on electricity bills if Christmas was in the summertime. 380 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.160 You wouldn't even have to turn your lights on until like nine pm. Turn 381 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.240 them off it I don't know, three in the morning when it starts getting 382 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.160 light out. I don't know why I'm laughing. I've lost my mind. 383 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:21.759 I'm sorry, but we are quickly heading into the holiday season, like I 384 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.319 said, and is it Christmas? YETI? Speaking of YETI? A search 385 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:32.319 for Yeti ended in October with the discovery of a single strand of hair. 386 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:41.160 A BBC Radio four program covering the Hamalayan hunt has revealed Andrew Benfield, a 387 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:48.480 writer and meditation teacher, has spent years looking for Yeti with his skeptical friend 388 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:56.640 and political analyst, Richard Horsey. I'm sorry. The pair traveled through India, 389 00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:04.000 Mayan, mar Nepal and Bhutan. I don't know how you pronounced that 390 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:12.200 properly, but bouton listening to stories about the legendary creature and eventually making I'm 391 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:17.480 doing air quotes right now, Yeddi ABBC Radio four series about their search. 392 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:25.759 The series did finish on a cliffhanger back in June A mysterious hair supplied by 393 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:34.359 an unnamed source awaiting DNA analysis, and that was published October twentieth has now 394 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.200 revealed the hair came from a horse. Well, of course, because your 395 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:44.480 partner is named Horsey now, Benfield told Live Science, which happens to be 396 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:52.200 an online science news site. The result didn't feel good after three years of 397 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:57.720 searching. A horse was about as boring as we could get, Benfield said, 398 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:05.200 But the DNA analysis doesn't invalidate the series or the stories of people they 399 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:09.200 spoke to. According to the pair for a pair of life, so to 400 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:15.880 wrap up tales of an ape like creature roaming the Himalayas day back centuries. 401 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.720 Western interest in the Yetti or abominable snowman, took off in the early nineteen 402 00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:29.279 fifties after British mountaineer Eric shift In returned from Everest with photos of giant footprints. 403 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:37.319 Subsequent investigations led by Westerners failed to find any scientific evidence of the creature's 404 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:45.559 existence. When we come back, hey, Ohio's got something going on. 405 00:33:49.039 --> 00:34:04.559 You're listening to the Sasquatch experience. 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They have 421 00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:51.480 been rescheduled to start selling on Saturday, December ninth due to a PayPal conflict 422 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:57.800 and issue apparently, but the Ohio Bigfoot Conference twenty twenty four, the annual 423 00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.960 conference takes place again, like I said, on Saturday, May fourth, 424 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:07.960 twenty twenty four, at the Salt Fork Lodge and Conference Center at Salt Fork 425 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:15.440 State Park in Cambridge, Ohio. Thanks again for listening to this edition of 426 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:22.159 the Baked Foot Bullhorn exclusively. I have a sasquatch experience, and as always, 427 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:29.599 y'all good be doing it or good be doing now? That ain't it? 428 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:49.079 It's keep your toes in the mud. Well, thanks fans for that 429 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.559 wonderful segment. We'll keep our toes in the mud. I'm due for a 430 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:58.880 pedicure anyhow here soon, so don't knock it, guys. Butt hygiene is 431 00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:06.119 important. Yes, it is good good health. Good foot health is important 432 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.039 to your overall health, you know best. So if you're a hiker, 433 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:13.280 right, prevent those infections, keep them clean, get them taken care of. 434 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.519 Pamper yourself a little bit. To hear those bies you can't hike without 435 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.159 feet, well you can. You get one of those all terrained rascals or 436 00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:28.320 those you know, just more difficult to do it without legs. Sure, 437 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:36.119 but just put them in a backpack like Yoda. Even without legs, I 438 00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:39.760 would still be a hell of a haul for somebody two hundred and fifty pounds. 439 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:46.440 There's no try, mother. I We digress as always, so before 440 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.199 we went to the break where you're talking about that ritual that was observed by 441 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.280 the hiker up and upstate New York or Essex County, New York, and 442 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:57.559 just something very fascinating about that. But we're going to segue that into something 443 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.039 pretty interesting that Matt discovered and brought up. So Matt, I'll give it 444 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.280 to you to take it us into the next segment. Ah, thank you. 445 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:12.039 The April eighth, twenty nineteen Smithsonian magazine talks about an article with gorillas 446 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:19.400 that appear to greed for their dead h So if we're looking at a Sashquatch 447 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.400 as a as an eight, we're probably gonna put them along right along the 448 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:29.079 lines of a gorilla, or we're gonna say that a lot of their behaviors 449 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:35.159 could be similar to them. And one fascinating observation that they made was they 450 00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.599 had a pair of dominant males that have passed away a year from each other. 451 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:44.440 And this was actually in Rwanda, so it wasn't in in a zoo, 452 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.239 this was this was out in a while, and they observed what the 453 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:54.039 what the the tribe of the gorillas did when when these two males passed the 454 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:59.679 first one. What they what they noticed was that they would the pact members 455 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:05.000 would gather around the bodies and they would touch it, touch the body, 456 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.440 they would groom the body. They found that the especially with the females, 457 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:13.480 the females were very strong with whether it was a male or a female, 458 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.440 that they would actually groom it. So they're they're cleaning the hair, they're 459 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.599 they're taking bugs off, and they would have an interaction with the body for 460 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:29.920 at least two or three days post death. What they did find, excuse 461 00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:34.719 me, was that there were some males, they would sometimes you know, 462 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.480 fall along with the females, but there was other times that they would become 463 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:44.239 antagonistic towards the bodies. They would do chest beating, they would vocalize where 464 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:49.519 they may hit or kick the corpse. So you do have that where they're 465 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.599 still thinking that there's that there could be some sort of pack structure amongst them, 466 00:39:53.639 --> 00:40:00.320 and and that's their way of basically, you know, establishing that you 467 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:07.159 know that dominant mail is no longer the dominant creature even as he passed, 468 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.360 but they did see that there was other juvenile males particularly that would spend some 469 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:17.480 time with the with the deceased dominant males, they may actually go into the 470 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:23.239 nest the same nest as as that dominant male as a as a late decease. 471 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:30.400 So there's a lot of similarities I think with with mammals in general, 472 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:35.519 where they do, especially at a higher intelligence, they do seem to have 473 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:44.039 a grieving process. That so but again that's Smithsonian Magazine. It's gorillas appear 474 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.679 to grief for their dead. Google it. It's a it's a great article 475 00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.840 to read and it falls right along with what we're discussing. I'll post the 476 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.280 links to all our articles in the show notes. So folks have them been 477 00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:59.440 doing that lately to give our folks where we're getting our information from. It's 478 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:01.920 really important think that we cite the you know, folks can get out there 479 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:06.320 and read it and make up their own minds on these topics that we're talking 480 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:08.079 about. But we're doing our due diligence and trying to provide you guys with 481 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.679 some sources and do with that as you wish. Henry, what do you 482 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.840 got for You've been awful silent on the topic of big fooding for death. 483 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:23.599 One thing that we find sometimes we can find thing is the reports we hear 484 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:35.000 about of sasquatch being seen near gread yards cemeteries. Now you wonder what's significant 485 00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.840 something. Why are they there the cemetery? Are they observing humans the way 486 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:45.239 they grieve? Yeah, they wonder about that. It's an interesting, you 487 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:47.480 know, observation, Henry, And again something that's not often been talked about. 488 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:53.800 Do they, you know, in their ever ending observations of us as 489 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:57.840 we notice these things, seem to be curious about what we do. Had 490 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.320 they adapted any of their tech niques to what we do? You know, 491 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:06.000 if it's a highly evolved, smart creature. Have they observed we handle our 492 00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.599 dead? You know, we've been bearing bodies since the Neanderthals, right, 493 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:15.119 so you know, how have these things maybe adapted and learned over the years. 494 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:17.760 And you know, that's a great point, Henry, A lot of 495 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.320 these There have been a decent amount of sightings notated around cemeteries, you know, 496 00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.159 the whole grieving process. As we go back to that article, which 497 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:31.280 and again is one of the first articles I'm aware of or reports of actually 498 00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:36.719 witnessing some sort of ceremony, which is still kind of gobsmacking to me a 499 00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.519 little bit. I just read that today and I got all giddy about it 500 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:43.119 because of you know, the show tonight. But it's new information, and 501 00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.360 if it's exciting to me, I'm sure it's going to be exciting, just 502 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:51.280 as Advance's epiphany that the nesting site may not be a nesting site at all, 503 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:55.039 but a burial site. You know. I was going back and I 504 00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:00.920 have the old iPad many here, which is one of the best ere can 505 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.199 go get yourself one of them, but Sasquat shapes among us available in e 506 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.840 book. I have two physical copies and one portable take with me everywhere I 507 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.320 go again. I mentioned it very briefly at the beginning of the show, 508 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.000 chapter twenty, page three sixty six, where the bones. You know, 509 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.679 this question has gone back since we started looking for this thing. What happens 510 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.960 to these what happens to the body? You know? And that's not the 511 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.440 first time it's ever been brought up, and John talks about it in that 512 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.960 chapter. I'm not going to read the chapter line and verse, but you 513 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.000 know, we often talk about institutions that have there been bodies found and have 514 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:39.039 their bones been sent to institutions. We've heard about stories with the Smithsonian and 515 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:44.920 giant bones or you know, giant bones that have gone missing from all these 516 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.320 institutions. But to surmise, what John says is that he finds it hard 517 00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.039 to believe that in every instance that you know, he's asked institutions about these 518 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.639 bones, they've not had any right, you know, that they all that 519 00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.119 they were sent to have disappeared, right like, So to his point that 520 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.599 it's not that they never not that they disappeared, but they were never received 521 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:09.000 to begin with. There's probably just more wise tales spun by researchers out there, 522 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:15.000 which kind of goes back to James Baker's original point doesn't exist, and 523 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.000 that would really suck considering that, you know, tens of thousands of people 524 00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:27.159 say so. The point that Matt brought up porcupine. Porcupine is one of 525 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:38.639 the most prevalent mammals that completely will devour any kind of calcium based bone and 526 00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:45.000 they will completely bower it. That's what they do, and they do it 527 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:52.719 for a nutritional reason. And every species, it seems like from you know, 528 00:44:52.880 --> 00:45:00.559 maggots and worms and bacteria will completely decompose a body within a very short 529 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.800 period of time. And when I say short period of time, I'm talking 530 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:09.199 within you know, seven day period and there's no trace of that body left 531 00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:17.880 anymore. But porcupine pick up on that and they completely go after the calcium 532 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:25.440 and they will devour the bone. Is crazy as that may seem, but 533 00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:35.039 that's what they do. So each individual organism has its own structure and its 534 00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:44.400 own direction in order to bring back a decomposed or a dead entity back to 535 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.880 the earth again. You know, you know, the circle of life. 536 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.639 Let's go back to the old king. But you know it's a circle of 537 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:58.320 life. Every individual party and its own instruction on what it's supposed to do 538 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:04.719 with the deceased vance. You got to run for Senate. Where's James Baker? 539 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.400 Okay, we hit the mute button. Anyhow, what I was gonna 540 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:14.199 say, engineer talking about driving a point vance, you could mow a point 541 00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.480 down and kill one hundred people with it. Anyhow, what I was saying 542 00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:22.039 is as Baker's you know, riding the Chuchu there, think of bears, 543 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.320 one of the largest mammals we have in the forest of North America. How 544 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:29.639 many bears have you stumbled upon dead in the woods? None? I've never 545 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.199 stumbled upon a dead one. Now in my research, I've seen a couple 546 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:36.920 photos of people that have posted them, and I've never said they didn't exist. 547 00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.400 I've seen more bear dead along the highway than one I have alive in 548 00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.800 the woods for one and two more than I've ever seen dead in the woods. 549 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:51.320 And they're a large mammal. And so what do bears do when they 550 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.519 die? Generally what any sort of wild animal like that, They're going to 551 00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:02.840 find the most remote, hidden spot and they're just going to, you know, 552 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.440 find a place where whether it's an old den or or just a ravine 553 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:15.000 somewhere and they're gonna And again the article from the Smithsonian does touch upon this, 554 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.559 where some of the gorillas that knew that they were dying, they would 555 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.199 they would walk away from the pack. So eventually they're going to find that 556 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:29.360 place where they can just find comfort and then that's it. So that's something 557 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:36.599 that again and that's an excelle point. There's eighteen thousand bears as of the 558 00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:45.599 last count estimate for Pennsylvania. There's twenty five thousand plus coyotes in Pennsylvania. 559 00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:52.880 And these are two larger I won't really call them apex pretors, but they're 560 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.400 they're at the top, they're predators, and they're again I spend a lot 561 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.679 of time out in the woods. I have yet to find the sea spere 562 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.320 that's that's a natural death. I've yet to find a coyote that has started 563 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.000 a natural death. You know, we see them, you know, if 564 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.320 they've been shot or they get hit by a car. But if they're dying 565 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.079 from a natural death, you don't find those bones, you don't find that 566 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.280 body anywhere. Right. So now, a couple that, couple that bat 567 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:28.599 with the fact that most people doing this research, most people there are exceptions, 568 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:34.920 aren't going miles upon miles upon miles into the woods. You know, 569 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.039 we kind of have our range that we go to for comfort, and we 570 00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:43.159 kind of habituize a place ourselves that we go to get used to, so 571 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.519 we could notice there's any abnormalities. But above and beyond that, how often 572 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.719 do we go in you know, I'm not talking about your Appalachian trail hikers, 573 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.119 because even that's a trail, you know, trail. How far are 574 00:48:55.159 --> 00:49:00.639 we venturing into the nose zones, the remote zones to look for this stuff? 575 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.280 We're not, you know, we're not going ten fifteen, twenty twenty 576 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.000 five miles into the wilderness. That's the hell of a hike back. And 577 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.679 you know, if people are going out there, they ain't coming back too 578 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:14.840 often, So I know something to be said about that too. So if 579 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:19.400 this thing is not much different than any other mammals that you know, we've 580 00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.840 you know, we've talked about, or any other you know, maybe like 581 00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.239 the bear, another other mammals, it ventures off into the wilderness and does 582 00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:32.599 its things, maybe they get I have I've heard a series and have read 583 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.719 I'm not only heard, but I have read a series of reports of domestic 584 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:44.599 house cats that are both indoor and outdoor. And when an elder cat is 585 00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:49.440 not well, it wanders off, and it wanders off to a point where 586 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.360 it's going to die and it's not to be seen again. And then the 587 00:49:52.400 --> 00:50:00.960 posters go up a missing cat. And it's quite possible that these creatures understand 588 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:08.599 that its demise is a prevalent and it's just going to go to its point 589 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:15.840 where it needs to die. And I don't know. And I always say 590 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:20.400 I don't know, because I really I don't know. I want to know, 591 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.760 but I really don't know. There's one more mystery on this, you 592 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:29.320 know, fascinating subject. Guys, any final thloughts you want to drive home 593 00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:35.559 on this? Well, I wanted to bring up Matt go ahead, and 594 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.039 then Baker will hit you after that. Okay, yeah, I was kind 595 00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.360 of bring up you had touched upon the body, you know, maybe a 596 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:50.280 bones being found the Smithsonian. One person I fall on Facebook who is He's 597 00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:54.239 kind of a good all around researcher. He does his homework and he's also 598 00:50:54.480 --> 00:51:00.400 out in the field quite a bit as less Odell down West Virginia. And 599 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:07.679 recently he's been posting a lot of these old newspaper articles from you know, 600 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:13.320 from papers primarily in the East Coast where they talked about you know, wild 601 00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:17.280 man encounters. But the one that he that he posted recently was about finding 602 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:22.199 bones. You know, these these seven foot bones that had different skulls and 603 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:28.280 than what normal humans would have. They were found near the mounds in Ohio 604 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.519 and those bones had disappear in it. And again this is something that he 605 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.880 he found in a newspaper probably from the turn of the twentieth century, that 606 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:43.719 he was able to grab that and post that. There's a lot of stuff 607 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:49.000 that's in these old newspapers that that you know, may have our answers, 608 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.639 and it's people like less Henry some of the other people that are that are 609 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:59.920 doing that that really deep research into the historical side that you know, maybe 610 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.039 be able to help us find the answer. Go ahead, bag Well, 611 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.599 you brought up a point about the Neanderthals used to bury their dead, and 612 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.119 I kind of posted a thing about why we bury are dead. Even as 613 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.360 the beginning was a lot of it was because it was unsanitary to the areas 614 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.440 that you lived in, and because you didn't want to watch your relatives decompose, 615 00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:24.039 and you're you know, feeling you know, feelings that you had towards 616 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:30.639 them. But the other thing, you know, so if an animal that's 617 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.199 intelligent, even though on a Neanderthal level, it would feel the same way. 618 00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.360 Hey, I don't want I don't want Pappy dead in the cave for 619 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:42.760 the next fifteen years. I got to look at that well, you know, 620 00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.039 but we want to put it away from the water source, and we 621 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.440 want to put it away from this. The other thing is with with like 622 00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.960 I said, as like a lot of stuff that goes on once you die, 623 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:57.119 and if you would die in the woods from an animal attack or something 624 00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.760 or whatever, is a lot of times like your body gets scattered to a 625 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:06.400 point. But even if we found the skeletal structure, kind of like what 626 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.239 Matt was talking about, is where would you take it? Because a lot 627 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:14.440 of people wouldn't believe you. You know. I always remember the movie Gargoyles. 628 00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.159 I don't know if you guys remember. It was nineteen nineteen seventies, 629 00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:22.760 nineteen eighties. Great movie. But like the old man, the drunk old 630 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:28.920 guy that runs a weird little shot had had a gargoyle the whole thing, 631 00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.840 and he's like, you know, and he had the Indian legends and he 632 00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:37.320 had the whole thing and he was completely right. But it was a drunk 633 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.719 old. The guy's like they just sewed this together. Look this is from 634 00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:44.639 a blood No no, no, no, no, real, you just 635 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:49.760 I'm sorry, I just And that's the problem. Is if you found a 636 00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:53.320 sasquatch and we're touched on this week's ago, is if you found a sasquatch 637 00:53:53.440 --> 00:54:00.280 body, what step two? You know, like, because if something it 638 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:05.320 then something's kind of watching it too, you know, like you don't bury 639 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:07.239 Grandpa in the cemetery and then forget it was there, or you know, 640 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:12.039 you look at the paper over something and if you notice somebody's Robin Graves, 641 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.079 you might chat, you know, you know. So I mean like it's 642 00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.760 something to think about. It is one is step two if you found the 643 00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:22.320 body, you know, And we'll go back and listen to that episode of 644 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.880 Folks. You're walking so You're walking in the woods is the title of that 645 00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:29.159 one. Guys, we're at that time again. Already two minutes of the 646 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.320 show left. Folks. If you want to report your citing to us, 647 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:37.480 you can do so confidentially five seven zero nine four zero nine four one one, 648 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.280 or you can email us info at Sasquatch Experience dot com. We do 649 00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.599 keep it confidential. We do collect them. I will ask if you mind 650 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:46.440 if we read it on the show. You don't have to say yes, 651 00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:53.239 but you know, I think most was a fellow forteen researcher Ashley Hilt made 652 00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:57.599 a post the other day that you know, the only thing worse than being 653 00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:01.679 put in a box because people think you're just a solow researcher on one topic 654 00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.920 is that when they find out you're a podcast or and you just podcast like 655 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:10.760 No, some of us are researchers. We research right, and I think 656 00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:15.079 that you know to stay true to the core Matt and I specifically, you 657 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.480 know, get out there and follow up on these investigations. So report them 658 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.320 to us. If you're not local, guess what we got friends and we'll 659 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:27.280 help you out. Five seven zero nine four zero nine four one one or 660 00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.840 email us info at sasquatch Experience dot com. Check us out on Facebook, 661 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:37.440 Instagram at Sasquatch Experience, Twitter formally o X formally known as Twitter SaaS our 662 00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:42.760 squatch exp and find us all on our various social media is by going to 663 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.360 our website, Sasquatch Experience dot com. You can click on shop to buy 664 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.800 our stuff. We got some t shirts and hoodies, and you can click 665 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:51.639 on about us to learn about each and every one of your beautiful faces you 666 00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:53.800 see here on that screen. And folks, Henry down there in the corner, 667 00:55:53.800 --> 00:56:00.599 he's single and he's looking for a fifth quoting Jamie Baker, Guys, 668 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:02.840 it's a great show tonight. We only again. Sometimes I feel like an 669 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.599 hour is not enough, but it's what we got, so we have to 670 00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.679 dive into these topics further on down the road. But some great conversation tonight, 671 00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:14.480 guys. And like I said, all the material you shared with us, 672 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:17.320 I'll put it in the show notes for the podcast uploading here very soon. 673 00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:22.079 Two yes too. You can join us on our Patreon Patreon dot com 674 00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.639 for its last Sasquatch experience for as little as two dollars a month. We've 675 00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:30.639 got some great things coming your way. More cryptic wilderness coming as Matt and 676 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:35.280 I get out the film some We've got our holiday Bigfoot watch along that we 677 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:37.320 got to do. Yet We've got all kinds of things coming, so stay 678 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:42.000 tuned for that. The Facebook is the best way to keep up on what 679 00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.159 we're doing. Folks, that's all I got. I'm Sean Forker. You've 680 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:51.320 been watching Sasquatch Experience. Henry take them away with those dulcet tones. Yah'll 681 00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.960 be good or be good at it and we'll see in next week. Folks. 682 00:56:54.159 --> 00:57:05.719 Good night, everybody. Keep on squatching. 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