WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:13.519 Callaroga Shark Media. Today on this program a conversation with comedian Dan Boobletz Junior. 2 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:19.640 We talked about the industry, Pete Davison's situation, Seinfeld Mulaney, and 3 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:23.039 whether or not Dan will have his own celebrity bourbon. We'll get into that. 4 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:26.039 And I'm laughing here. This is actually take five. I got up 5 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.120 this morning and I'm like, I need to do an intro real quick, 6 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:31.839 and I haven't had my coffee yet. Here's Dan. I just recorded Friday's 7 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:35.600 episode and I named check you. I was doing a Pete Davidson's story about 8 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:39.399 him getting heckled night. I told the listeners, I'm going to ask Dan 9 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:45.880 about this the question Dan has crowd work ruined stand up comedy? Okay, 10 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:51.320 so I do have some feelings about this. I've seen two things, two 11 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:55.520 observations that I have seen since all these crowd clips have been going on, 12 00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:00.679 like TikTok and ig reels, and that is one, people don't want to 13 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.040 sit up front anymore in a comedy show. But the other side of it 14 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:07.560 is they do want to sit up front, hoping that they'll be part of 15 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:08.840 the show, that they'll be part of that viral clip. That's worse. 16 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:12.959 It is worse. It is. But yeah, so that's one thing I've 17 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:18.560 noticed, like because I produce shows too, and a lot of times, 18 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:22.640 you know, we're just doing shows like in breweries or whatever, so it's 19 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:26.799 just open seating, and people will not sit up front if they can get 20 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.840 away with it, Like they'll come in if the room is completely empty. 21 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.120 They always go to the back. They don't want to sit up front because 22 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.680 they're afraid the comics are going to talk to them. I mean yeah, 23 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:40.040 even back in the day, I never wanted to sit in the front either. 24 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.959 I get it. It's kind of just be annoying. Oh absolutely. 25 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:49.599 I mean I haven't experienced it a ton myself, but you can tell when 26 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:53.280 people are coming in if they're the kind of people that are trying to be 27 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.319 part of the show, because they're already act in a fool before the show 28 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:02.760 even starts, and it's just awful. Yeah. So parably, Pete Davidson 29 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.760 was trying to just do a show and people kept yelling out Ariana Grande and 30 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.280 he walked off. Oh wow. But the reactions, at least what the 31 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:15.240 newspapers are capturing on Reddit was good for you Pete like people aren't mad that 32 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:20.240 he walked off. I feel like the vibe I'm getting is that audiences have 33 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:23.800 gotten worse somehow post pandemic. I think so a little bit. I mean 34 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:29.039 it again, I contribute some of this to the crowd work clips too, 35 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:34.120 Like we've kind of opened a Pandora's box with it, you know, because 36 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:38.800 comics don't want to post their material because you know, they feel like they're 37 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.520 birding it or whatever, so they'll try to get these crowd work clips so 38 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.240 they have content to put out. And yeah, and because of that, 39 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:52.000 we've opened this weird you know, almost like we've given them permission to come 40 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.360 be this way at shows. So it's kind of, in a way, 41 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:59.120 it's kind of our own faults as comedians for doing that. Are the comedians 42 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.479 that are posting the crowd work clips. I try not to do crowd work 43 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:07.479 myself because I'm awful at it. Well, there's also there's at least one 44 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.960 guy a couple guys out there who are comedian slams Heckler for blah blah blah, 45 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.120 and all that crowd work maybe ain't the most authentic. Oh absolutely, 46 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:20.400 and you get that too. I feel like now, especially now that crowd 47 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.400 work clips and comedians are doing a lot of it, it just seems like 48 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:29.240 there's a lot of comedians and I'm like, I go to a lot of 49 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:32.479 comedy shows, and yes, hecklers happen, but sometimes I'm like, really, 50 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.039 you get heckled every time you have a show. Come on fine with 51 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:42.120 a plant. So this is not your style. But if you didn't act 52 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:44.520 and you put me in the audience as a plant and I yelled out, 53 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:46.680 you know, hey, your glasses look dumb, and then you and I 54 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:50.280 start having an argument and I come up and rush the stage, and you 55 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:53.159 know, whatever the bit is, that's fun. I've seen that execute well. 56 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:57.360 But for me to just sit in the audience and go like, you 57 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:00.680 know, hey, nice glasses just so you can slam me for a cheap 58 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:05.000 joke, it's lame. Oh absolutely, that's funny that The way you described 59 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:12.680 that as the playant reminded me of your favorite actors movie Happy Gilmore, when 60 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:18.040 Shooter mcgaver sends in the plant to harass him. The community on the Facebook 61 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:21.199 group Daily Comedy News Podcast Group, it's been really good. Everybody's kind of 62 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:26.319 starting to come together and cross pollin eate. I love conversations that don't involve 63 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:30.519 me at all. I like having the community. So one of the more 64 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:32.759 known listeners out there is Scott Beckett. So just to ruin Scott's day, 65 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:38.040 let me ask you that Joe Coy famous insult comic one time at the Golden 66 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.879 Globes he went after Taylor Swift. Let me play the clip for you just 67 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.079 in case you haven't heard it before. As you know, we came on 68 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.079 after a football doubleheader. The big difference between the Golden Globes and the NFL. 69 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:53.680 On the Golden Globes, we have fewer climber shots of Taylor Swift. 70 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:56.439 So what do you do this, Joe Coy? Oh, man, I 71 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:03.000 tell you he shouldn't be insulting America sweetheart, because that backfired. I think 72 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.480 it's that bet is kind of funny, but also I kind of agree with 73 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:11.600 Scott. It's a little you can really beat a joke down, So but 74 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:15.600 I also love your commitment to it. I come from the belief of everything 75 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.399 has a cycle. It's funny and then it becomes not funny at all, 76 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:25.360 and I think that's where some of the audience got. And then another segment 77 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:29.319 of the audience is with me that I've beaten it down so far that it's 78 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:31.439 now back to being funny. That's where I am with it, yep, 79 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:35.360 because you kind of for it. Oh yeah, absolutely, And I can 80 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:40.040 appreciate that. The joke itself though, I think it's kind of funny because 81 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:43.600 if you listen to the clip, he couldn't even tell the joke, like 82 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:46.639 he started laughing, and I feel like that threw off the delivery of the 83 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:51.480 joke because as he was getting ready to say camera he starts to kind of 84 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:57.839 laugh and he was trying to hold it together and is Gloden globes Yeah, 85 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.360 yeah, like he was fumbling over his I was almost like he was too 86 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.759 nervous to do it. But I don't know. I feel like if he 87 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:09.079 would have delivered it without those little fumbles, it probably would have been fine. 88 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.519 And also, you know, putting the bit aside, as I've said 89 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.680 on the pod, if Taylor just smiles at it and goes ah hah, 90 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:19.279 then it's fine. She iced him, and I don't think that helps. 91 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:24.199 He wasn't having a great set and I think is a good comic. I'm 92 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.879 okay with Some people got upset and felt that he threw his writers under the 93 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.720 bus. I thought he was just riffing, trying to save a set and 94 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.240 explaining, like, I've had this job for nine days, what the hell 95 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.560 did you want? That was the vibe. I God, I think he 96 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:39.639 was burying his writers. No, I don't. I mean he kind of 97 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:43.480 did, because he blatantly, you know, said he'd get right to stuff 98 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.639 or whatever. But but again I would agree. I think he was just 99 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.519 struggling because he knew he was bombing, and he was just trying to bring 100 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:53.519 it back. And that's sometimes that happens when you're on stage and it's not 101 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:57.399 going well, you're just reaching for whatever. You're trying to find that that 102 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.800 life raft. You know, do you keep in your back pocket, like 103 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:05.120 you know in ninety seconds that you just know works, that you just don't 104 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:10.680 use otherwise. No, I mean what I usually do is if I'm doing 105 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.480 some jokes and they're not going well, I'll try to switch it up. 106 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.839 Because they do have jokes that are proven and I know will probably work. 107 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.279 I don't necessarily save them for just in case. I mean, at some 108 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:24.120 point in my set, I'll probably get to them, but I might change 109 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:26.480 the order, you know, like I might have it planned that I'm going 110 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.920 to do these jokes later in my set, but early on my jokes aren't 111 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.000 hitting. I'm gonna switch it up and I'm gonna go to this stuff that 112 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:35.920 I know will work to try to win the audience back, so I'll do 113 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:40.879 an audible on the order. I remember back in the day when I worked 114 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:45.920 with Jim Brewer. I used to love watching him in front of crowds because 115 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.519 he would look out and you could see his brain going, all right, 116 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:50.759 who's in front of me right now? I remember what time we were at 117 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:54.480 the auto show and he's like, right now, it's dad's with young kids, 118 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.519 and he kind of switched off his stoner goat boy act and went into 119 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.040 his family material, and it was just ready to watch him to see who's 120 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.240 in front of me? What is this group going to laugh at? And 121 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:07.800 let me go there. Yeah, that's why I think it's important to you 122 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:09.800 know, a lot of comedians probably don't want to do this, you know, 123 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.040 they'll go hide in the green room or whatever. But I feel like 124 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.680 it's important kind of watching as the audiences is coming in and just kind of 125 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.920 observing, because you know, reading the room and watching the comic before you, 126 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.480 so you can kind of get a sense of who is this audience because 127 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.680 then if you need to adjust, you can. And you want the guy 128 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:30.959 before you to do well. Right, You're not like, oh yeah, 129 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:33.840 no, no, no, I'm not saying watch yeah, yeah, you 130 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:35.519 do want them to do well. I'm saying just so you can observe the 131 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:39.120 audience, because then you can see what's working what's not when you're watching the 132 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.200 other comics. The other comic might be, you know, doing millennial jokes, 133 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:48.080 and the audience could be boomers and they're just not gonna connect because it's 134 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.159 not relatable or whatever. But you know, you can get a pretty good 135 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.320 read of the room the audience, so then if you need to adjust, 136 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.360 you can do that. And that's because that's kind of what I do. 137 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.440 Like, I know that some of my jokes aren't going to work in some 138 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.000 situations because I'm pretty nerdy. I do some nerdy material, And I know 139 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:11.559 that my preferred audience is my age plus or minus about ten years. I 140 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:16.759 really reached that Gen X audience. But I can perform for all audiences, 141 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.600 you know, and still be funny. I feel like lately i've been maybe 142 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.039 it's the amount of specials and watch them all at once. I feel like 143 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.720 I've been analyzing comedy a lot more than I have in a few years. 144 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.240 We definitely used to do this back at Serious and I've talked about this before. 145 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.639 I remember seeing someone I want to say, maybe with prosine, and 146 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:41.080 I felt like I could see the matrix of the premise based in fact premise 147 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:45.559 exaggerated thing that never actually happened, but it's funny callback, And I was 148 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:50.080 sitting watching a set going I can see this happening. Lately, I've been 149 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.639 on a run of noticing things that sound like comedy. So I'll just do 150 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.399 like a and I'm not a comedian, as I always bring up on the 151 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:01.360 pod, but I'll bring up like Bob Hope style joke of like, you 152 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:05.200 know, hey, just see General Johnson's here, Yay, he probably just 153 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.480 came for the free hot dog. Like it's not funny, but it has 154 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.440 the rhythm of a joke. And if I dropped that in the middle of 155 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.960 a set and I had a proper persona that could get a laugh even though 156 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.480 I don't even know what that joke quote unquote meant. You're right, and 157 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.240 there is a rhythm to it too, And I think that's like you said, 158 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.639 it's a persona or a character, because there are comics who really lean 159 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.159 into a persona. And you even talked about this on just the other day 160 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:33.039 when you were talking about Norton. He's, you know, very soft spoken 161 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.440 off stage, but on stage he's like an animal, you know, yeah, 162 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.240 you know, he's a nice, quiet guy. And I was very 163 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.879 happy reading that article. I'm glad he found somebody he loves and he sounds 164 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.440 super happy. And that's the gym that I know. Switching gears. What 165 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:52.799 do you think of Malanie? Oh? Well, I haven't watched his new 166 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:58.399 special. I've heard some mixed reviews from some friends because I have a friend 167 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.279 of mine is a big comedy fan and they watched it. They actually went 168 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:03.559 and saw Pete Davison last week too, But I haven't watched his Dude special. 169 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.240 But prior to that, I love his work. He's in my top 170 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.039 five of comedians. Anytime somebody either like who's your favorite comedian of all time? 171 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:15.159 I'm like, well, that's a loaded question. We have to break 172 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.159 this down because there's so many great comedians. I break it down into two 173 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.399 categories. No, longer with us, still with us. George Carlin Richard 174 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.840 Pryor are probably two of the best comedians of all time, but there are 175 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.759 some great working comedians. For me, John Mullaney's one of my favorites, 176 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.679 John Mlanie, Mike Burbig, Yellow Mark Maron three of my probably tops. 177 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:37.759 Did you see Milani's late night show? I have not. Now I'm so 178 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:43.000 far behind on watching anything. It seems like I just started get trying to 179 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.000 get caught up on Hacks season three. Hacks season three is good. Well, 180 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.360 I mean understandably you work nights and weekends, yes, because when the 181 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:52.639 rest of us are watching TV, exactly totally get like, you know, 182 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.320 hey, how come we're not watching Saturday Night Live? What are you doing 183 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:58.879 Saturday late night? You know? Yeah, exactly, I'm trying to be 184 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.240 them in front of a live audience. That makes it. I thought Molane 185 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.720 it had a lot of early days Letterman two. As they talked about on 186 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:13.679 the pod, he really needs a producer and a little bit of structure, 187 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:18.600 but it was so much fun. He had a really really short Limb TV 188 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:24.120 series, like I think it only had like I don't know, maybe a 189 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:28.559 couple episodes before it got canceled a Fox had come called Mulaney. Yep. 190 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:33.279 It did ratings at the time like a one to six, which in twenty 191 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:35.559 twenty four would get you a ten year commitment, but back in the day 192 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.799 was an abysmal rating. But I put that in the category of things that 193 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.840 existed. You know, if you said to somebody today, Hey, wouldn't 194 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:48.360 it be cool if John m'laney had a sitcom on Fox pre cancellation, wouldn't 195 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.960 it be awesome if Louis c K had a show on HBO? Imagine what 196 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.759 a big hit that would be. And you know, these things happened and 197 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.879 nobody cared. Yeah, yep, absolutely and that speaking of that, that 198 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.240 show again, and you're right, that was another show I felt like was 199 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:07.480 underrated. I thought that show that he had on HBO was better than the 200 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:11.039 series he had on Fax. Like obviously he had evolved and it was still 201 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:16.200 as serious. But I really like that series on HBO because they did it 202 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.360 like a stage play. Yeah, and it had a Honeymooners kind of vibe, 203 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.200 like if Jackie Gleason were played by Louis c K. It was that 204 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.480 kind of setup, which is what he was going for. The latter show 205 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.720 I didn't watch a lot of because at that time, when I was at 206 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.679 serious, I wanted to come home and get away from comedy. And I 207 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.120 started watching the Universe because if a bunch of scientists were telling me about Saturn, 208 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:46.039 I didn't get bombed. Whereas when I would watch Louis show and I 209 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.840 loved it, what would happen is I'd be sitting on the couch and relaxed, 210 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.960 and Louis would talk to Jim Norton, who I'd seen earlier in the 211 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.799 hallway, and oh yeah, I got to talk to Jim tomorrow to see 212 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.639 if he'll be a guest on the other show, and I got to get 213 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.240 him a promo. And my boss is probably mad at me and that thing 214 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.279 I didn't do. Now i'd be in the spiral and I'm back at work. 215 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.879 So I actually deliberately stopped watching that show because it was stressing me out. 216 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.600 No, I believe that one. A lot of people are always asked 217 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.480 me because I'm a comedian. They'll ask, you know, if a new 218 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.159 special comes out there like did you see so and so it's new special? 219 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.919 And I'm like no, because that's work to me. I see so much 220 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.360 live comedy. I do so much live comedy when I'm at home. If 221 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.919 I want to watch something, I don't want to watch a lot of stand 222 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.440 up comedy because to me, it feels like work, even though it's not 223 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:35.720 my material. But help but not analyze like the comedic brain clicks in and 224 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:41.840 I'll be watching, you know, And I could objectively watch a comedian and 225 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.320 see them do well and not necessarily like their material, but I can see 226 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:52.159 it and understand why it's working and why the crowd likes what they're doing. 227 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:56.240 And that's what happens when I watch stand up. I just started analyzing. 228 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.519 I'm like, oh, I see what they did there. Oh that was 229 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:03.120 a pretty good call back. Oh they just keep building this callback or you 230 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.200 know or whatever it is. So I don't watch a lot of stand up 231 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:11.440 in my free time. I gravitate towards, you know, more comedy type 232 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.639 shows. So for the listeners, Dan just explained what I've described in the 233 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.320 past is what I call the Emperor of rome syndrome. I do that even 234 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.080 though not a comic, never been a comic, but I've hung out in 235 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.440 the back of the room and same thing. Oh good callback, good setup. 236 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.120 I see what he's doing here. Okay, Oh that joke was better 237 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:30.679 than the audience or I can't believe they laugh at that one. I totally 238 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.279 hear you. On the analysis last weekend over Memorial the weekend, there were 239 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:35.720 things I could have watched, like Rachel, and I was like, I 240 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:41.360 just I needed a break from just life and needed to turn my brain off. 241 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:43.679 And I'm like, I want to watch Planet of the Apes. I 242 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.039 don't want to think about this at all, because the same thing if I 243 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.120 put Rachel on, I immediately start going, oh is this one of the 244 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:52.080 top twenty specials of twenty twenty four? When I say in the podcast, 245 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.000 let me take some notes, let me put on Facebook that I'm watching a 246 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.720 comedy special, so the people engage with me, and like, sometimes you 247 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:00.919 just got to get it away from it. Yep. Absolutely, And like 248 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.919 I said, I see so much live comedy too, because even you know, 249 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:07.399 like last night, for example, I co produced some shows here in 250 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:10.279 Loveland, Colorado, where I live. I wasn't on the show, but 251 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:11.840 we had a show last night, so I was there, you know, 252 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.879 helping with set up, tear down and some of the behind the scenes stuff. 253 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:18.960 But watching the show and as I watch it, I'm watching the comedians 254 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.559 and I'm analyzing some of the stuff that they're doing, and it's hard not 255 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:27.360 to like that mindset or whatever. But also, I'm always watching comedy, 256 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:30.600 even if I'm not on a show, I'm probably at a show because I'm 257 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.360 producing it, so I see so much of it live. I'm like, 258 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:37.360 I don't want to watch it at home. I need an escape. And 259 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.720 your brain does get numb to it. It's like, logically, think, 260 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.200 Okay, that was really funny, the laugh doesn't come out. That's why 261 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:49.759 you know a comedian that really has a surprising angle and that can shock you, 262 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.840 not in a shock jock kind of way, but just like, oh, 263 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.720 I didn't see that one coming. Well, that actually funny. That 264 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:59.919 happened last night with one of the comics. It was a really dark joke 265 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.960 and I thing it had to do with the miscarriage and a gender reveal was 266 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.319 the punchline, and the audience was into it. But it was so dark 267 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.359 and it was so funny because, as he said it, I was walking 268 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.759 out of the door because I was taking pictures, and I go around the 269 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:17.240 building instead of cutting through. Just the way it's laid up and I was 270 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:21.720 walking out as he landed the punchline, and I was like, Jesus Christ, 271 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:25.599 and I said that out loud, and there's a whole bunch of people 272 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:26.960 on the street as I was coming out and said that, and then I 273 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:32.079 just because it was like it's so dark but so funny, and I was 274 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:36.359 like, I can't believe he just said that, and the audience was into 275 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:38.359 it. And I even told him after his set, I was like, 276 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:42.279 dude, that got me so hard. So how much producing are you doing 277 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.000 it? Are you booking nights or tell us about what you're doing there? 278 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:49.039 Okay, so yeah, I co produced shows. We have our comedy production 279 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:56.000 company called Loco Comedy, which is Loveland Colorado Comedy. Also you know trains 280 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.920 because Loveland's a big train place, I guess. But anyway, so yeah, 281 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:03.200 we produce a bunch of monthly shows at different breweries, and you know, 282 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.079 we get a hit up to do shows and then if they work out, 283 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:10.119 they become regular shows. So we have I don't know, like three 284 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:12.000 or four monthly shows that we do, and then we host some open mics 285 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:17.759 here in Loveland. So Loveland is just outside of Fort Collins, northern Colorado. 286 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:19.759 I think we're about one hundred thousand people or whatever. But there's no 287 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:25.559 comedy venues in Loveland proper. We do have the Comedy for It over and 288 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:27.960 Fort Collins, but it's still like a half hour drive. Or you can 289 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:33.319 go down to comedy works down in Denver that's an hour every now and again. 290 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.799 We do have a big arena and sometimes we'll get like Bert Kreischer was 291 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.880 just here a few months ago at that big arena. We also have the 292 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:45.400 rialto Theater. Tom Poppa is going to be there in July, so they 293 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:48.720 do bring in some bigger acts to Loveland. But comedy is not like a 294 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:56.839 regularist thing until my co producer Jeff Alright, he moved here from Denver five 295 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:59.519 or six years ago and he started producing shows here, and then when I 296 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.599 moved here, we just started working together now with you know, in addition 297 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.000 to our monthly shows, we had the Laugh Out Loveland Comedy Festival that we 298 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:08.960 do the first weekend of August too. So yeah, we just go into 299 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.880 breweries and turn them into comedy clubs. You know. We have one show 300 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:18.359 called Loading Dock Laughs, and we do it on the loading dock of a 301 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.039 brewery. But we turn it into you know, there's a stage and we 302 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.559 have a backdrop, we have lights. We literally turn it into like a 303 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.519 comedy club. Like if you saw pictures, you would not know people are 304 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.160 performing on a loading dock. Oh that's cool. It's fun to see a 305 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.559 scene pop up like that. You know. Here, I'm in the Greater 306 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:44.799 Morristown, New Jersey area, so, depending on traffic, an hour west 307 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:48.440 of New York City, so it's far enough away, and there's just a 308 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:52.759 burgeoning scene that there's a local bar that's getting some people. I want to 309 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.440 play nice. I see some of the names coming to the bar and I'm 310 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.839 like, that person is playing this tiny little room at this bar, really, 311 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:06.279 because that's surprising me, you know. And then I go the other 312 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:10.519 way. I'll change the details because I'm not here to hammer particular people. 313 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:15.839 But somebody was telling me yesterday about a nationality based tour. So let's pretend 314 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.000 it's the the Irish American Warriors of Comedy something like that. And I just 315 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.200 said, there's just no way that's good. It's just not going to be 316 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.079 good. Let me look at it, you know. I pulled it up 317 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:26.559 on Facebook and I'm like, I don't know any of these people, and 318 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.400 I'm not saying any everybody, but I do put a little bit of time 319 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:32.519 into this. I'm like, that's not going to be a good show. 320 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:34.720 Yeah, right, exactly. Well, and that's what we get some really 321 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:41.240 good because we're so close to Denver, we get some really good acts sometimes 322 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.680 and then like our next one, that's what I'm looking at. I don't 323 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:49.640 I'm not as familiar with this comic, but we have a bigger comic coming 324 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:55.519 from Comedy Central, Dave Ross. Dave Ross has done Drunk History, it 325 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:59.519 was on WTF, done a bunch of other stuff or whatever, and we 326 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:02.480 got here at one of our shows coming up. So we're bringing in, 327 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:04.920 you know, if they're in the area, we bring in big headliners. 328 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:08.359 You know, we had well he had to cancel because he got sick, 329 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:15.839 but we had Adam Caiton Holland booked for a show and then he ended up 330 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.359 getting sick, but then Ben Roy filled in for him. So we're getting 331 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:22.119 We're able to bring in some really good talent here too. So that's the 332 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.720 other cool thing about it, because we're bringing in nationally touring headliners to this 333 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.680 little city that you know, this little town, so and while you know, 334 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.920 we don't really have a I guess you could call it a scene, 335 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.160 but I don't call it a scene because there's only like four comedians that live 336 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:41.640 in Loveland proper. So it's not like we're doing a bunch of shows. 337 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.319 But we're bringing comedy here and the community really loves comedy. Like most of 338 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.039 our shows are always packed, which is great. No, that's great, 339 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:52.839 And you start building a reputation, cool room, cool people to work with, 340 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.079 they actually pay you, you know, all that stuff that goes into 341 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.880 it. You know, you get a good reputation and word's bread. Oh 342 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.839 absolutely, and it has. I mean, we've had to turn venues down 343 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:08.440 just because we already do all these shows downtown and we'd just be competing with 344 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:14.519 ourselves. Don't be offended. We just don't want to oversaturate and then ruin 345 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:18.880 all our shows. But if the venue approaches us that's not in downtown Loveland 346 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:23.480 or like I started doing a show at the Spinyard in another town called berth 347 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:27.640 End, which is basically just the outskirts of Loveland. They approached us about 348 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.359 doing a show, and I gave them a quote and they accepted it, 349 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.400 and we did a show, and it was very successful. It sold out 350 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.759 two weeks before we even had the show. All because they have their own 351 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:41.000 internal client base, we didn't have to do a lot of advertising on our 352 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.960 end. The show went really well, so they booked another one, which 353 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.599 we're doing this Friday. Sold out a week before the show. I had 354 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:51.319 some people hit me up. They're like, hey, I was trying to 355 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.000 get tickets to the show Friday and it says it sold out. Is that 356 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:56.920 true? And I was like, probably, but I'll double check and yeah, 357 00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:59.759 they were sold out already. That's great. So yeah, so it's 358 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:03.880 great to have like a community that supports comedy. No, awesome, All 359 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:07.279 right, let's go down the list of the bigger comedians. Dave Chappelle. 360 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:12.559 Wear you with Chappelle? These days, he can say whatever he wants because 361 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.839 he's Dave Chappelle. Now, at least that's what he thinks. I mean, 362 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.759 there's always going to be consequences. I have much respect. I mean, 363 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:23.559 he definitely, you know, as a definitely as a comedian can definitely 364 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.519 respect him. I don't know, I haven't watched a lot of his recent 365 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:30.960 stuff, and I don't feel like he's doing comedy as much as he's doing 366 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:37.640 lectures these days. But a lot of his older stuff great stuff, you 367 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.680 know, Like he's so funny and his cadence and stage presence and delivery is 368 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:48.480 just on point. Yeah, And I do feel like he's leaning into that 369 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.720 I've been illustrating lately. And let me go slow here so I don't accidentally 370 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.640 cancel myself. For lett, anyone just wrap him about to do is based 371 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:02.119 in hate at all. But Dave has a move now where he'll say a 372 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:03.839 word, I'll illustrate it, and then he does that knee slapping thing. 373 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.519 So like if you said, yea, the early show is sold out, 374 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.680 well you know why the late show wasn't sold out, Dan because of the 375 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.440 trans And now I slap my knee and I make the face and I laugh 376 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.400 and I mug for the camera and he's getting a laugh off of that, 377 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.000 and I'll go back to it sounds like comedy, yep, nope' And you're 378 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:26.720 absolutely right. That's one thing that I totally know what you're talking about there, 379 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.559 And I do find that kind of annoying because he's actually he's done that 380 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.880 a lot. If you look at even his older stuff, and I noticed 381 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.079 because there's a lot of comedians that look up to him. I started seeing 382 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.720 that when I was in San Diego. There were comedians like do an open 383 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.680 mic set with same thing. They'd like tell a joke and then like laugh 384 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.160 at their own joke and do the hit the mic on their knee, and 385 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.839 I'm just like, oh, that's so annoying. Sometimes I think, though, 386 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.960 I feel like because of the stardom that in the level of fame that 387 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.920 he's achieved, I don't know necessarily, and I don't know him. I've 388 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.440 never worked with him. I know people who have and they say he's a 389 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.279 nice guy, and sure that's the case, So I don't necessarily think that 390 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:14.200 he believe feels that way about. You know, the issue per se is 391 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.160 I think he's just doing it because of his ego, like pushing it because 392 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.119 he can get away with it kind of thing. If that makes sense. 393 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.759 Y, It's totally got that, yeah, exactly. And when you do 394 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:27.960 try to tell him what to do, then he leans in harder. I 395 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:33.720 feel like it's I feel like it's more of the ego that he's gotten from 396 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.480 his fame more than anything. But again, I don't know him, so 397 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.200 I could be totally wrong. Too. What do you think of all the 398 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:45.559 stuff with Jerry lately? It's just been weird. It has been weird, 399 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:51.319 and I honestly, I'm surprised that he got a pass. I mean it's 400 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.839 weird because you know, he did date a seventeen year old when he was 401 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.559 in his thirties thirtieth, which is a weird thing. And every other comedian 402 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:03.759 that has had some kind of controversy regarding that kind of stuff, I mean, 403 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.400 haven't been canceled, but they've been you know, drug through the Ringer 404 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.000 per se, and he didn't until lately, which is weird to me. 405 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:18.759 Yeah, it's interesting that it came back thirty years later, but the Palestine 406 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:23.519 stuff is sort of distracted from that, and the interview he did this week 407 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:29.039 has distracted everybody. Again, but Jerry's been in the news a lot, 408 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:32.359 and I'm not sure for the right reasons at all, And it's kind of 409 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:34.799 weird too, Like, and you've even brought this up on your podcast about 410 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:38.359 the legacy. These comics are leaving like they have a great body of work 411 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.880 and then they lean into something and then now that's what they're going to be 412 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:47.839 remembered for. And it's just kind of a weird thing. It's like, 413 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.440 I mean, obviously people change and they evolve over time, but still weird 414 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.400 weird to me that you'll see. I'll go the other way, and I 415 00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:57.400 toked with this. I would love to see Jerry just go, you know 416 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:00.640 what, I'm seventy years old, I'm going all day and let me show 417 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.240 you how good of a comedian I am and do a forty five minute political 418 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:08.000 chunk. It would be stunning, you know, would be like Dylan goes 419 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:12.440 electric but do it. Yeah, yeah, I mean it would be interesting. 420 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:15.799 I'm not going to disagree with you on that. It would definitely be 421 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:19.359 interesting to see him do that and lean all the way in. But again, 422 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:25.880 when they're you know, just these small, well small bits that they're 423 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.039 doing or you know, interviews or sound bites or whatever you want to call 424 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:30.559 them, and they kind of lean into them, and then it's like, 425 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.279 well, now that's all you're going to be remembered for, is that last 426 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.720 thing? Like you have all this great work and then you went and did 427 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.480 this. You really remembered for your last thing. Yeah, it's true. 428 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.839 That's why, you know, image is everything, especially in entertainment. You're 429 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:52.680 remembered for that last thing. Have you thought about getting into bourbon as a 430 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.480 comedian? Like, you're out of a vodka guy, But if you have 431 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.079 a boky, you'd like to plug for seven minutes while I take a walk. 432 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:04.920 Yeah. Sure. There's a great distillery in Montana. Lolo Creek is 433 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:10.519 the distillery, and it is a honey huckleberry flavored vodka. You put it 434 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:15.519 with a little bit of lemonade and some ice, and you have yourself a 435 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.559 marvelous summer drink. And I am not being paid to endorse them. That 436 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.240 is just literally my favorite vodka. You managed to do that without losing all 437 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.640 your coolness like some other comedians that I won't name, but I think everybody's 438 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.680 all right. What else is happening in comedy? Who are you seeing out 439 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.920 there? Who's good? Oh man, there's so many good people. I 440 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.599 think the last time we talked I probably mentioned him too. But he just 441 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.480 keeps getting better and better, Zultan, because as is so funny, and 442 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.160 he just keeps getting better and better every time I see him. If you 443 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:48.319 don't know who Zoltan, do yourself a favor and go discover probably one of 444 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.359 the greatest working comedians today. He puts out material so frequently and just so 445 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.920 good at it. He's gotten to the point where he can go have an 446 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.160 experience and then that night talk about it on stage and it's just super funny, 447 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.920 like it's already a joke. And it's like every time I see him 448 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.039 perform or I work with him, he makes me want a quick comedy. 449 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.440 I'm like, I'm not gonna be good. You know, he's so good. 450 00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.160 I'm just like I can open for him. I do open for him, 451 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.279 but still I'm just like, oh, he's so good, I don't 452 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.680 know if I'll ever get there. So he's one of my favorites. Obviously 453 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:25.319 working some other comics that I feel like a lot of comics in Colorado Denver 454 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:30.519 area has a really good working scene. There's a lot of working comics here. 455 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.759 But another comic in this area that started to blow up is Derek Strup. 456 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:41.680 He is so funny. He's been opening a lot for Bert Kreischer, 457 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:48.319 John Christ and Dan A. Bergazzi, but he himself so funny. I 458 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.039 saw him at the comedy for It before, like when I first moved here, 459 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.559 and I was just like, Wow, this guy is hilarious. He's 460 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.119 just got like this because he's from I think from al Arkansas, I don't 461 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.119 remember which. He's from the south, but so he's got a little bit 462 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.960 of an accent, but just the way his delivery and everything and just he 463 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:14.559 kind of has like a I don't know, like an angry kind of delivery, 464 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.680 and but it works. It's so funny. So definitely check out Derek 465 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.240 Strup. I've heard great things about him. I know you have to go. 466 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.319 We'll do this more often and more frequently, but get all your plugs 467 00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.160 in. What are you selling us? All? Right? Well, you 468 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:32.640 can find me on all my social media d bubb Comedy. That's dbub Comedy 469 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:37.400 everywhere at dbubbcomedy dot com com for the website. And then yeah, I 470 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.880 got a new podcast that I'm doing a couple of new podcasts. I have 471 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.400 a comic book podcast called Panel Picks, where me and another comedian we talk 472 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.240 about comic books that are coming out each week. And then I have an 473 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:55.200 unofficial travel podcast called Drives, Drinks and Dives I think is the name of 474 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.039 it. It's a long name, but it's with me and another comedian and 475 00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:02.079 we're talking about our ventures on the road. And that's only a monthly podcast. 476 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.400 Very accountant friendly. Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more. 477 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.200 All right man, I will let you go. This is a pleasure. 478 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:11.079 Thank you, thanks for having me.