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All right, here's a really cool
story. I don't know the Oh my

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gosh, Gema link Jemma get and
these chickens are driving me crazy. I'm

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sending you my story of an interaction
I had was something many years ago.

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I'm sending you. I'm sending you
this in a way to get it off

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my chest. I've only told this
story to two people before, one my

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wife and the other my brother.
But I still feel the need to sort

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of get it out after all this
time. Hold on just a minute,

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y'all, Gemma get yeah, yeah, yeah, all right there I closed

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my daughter. Now we shouldn't be
interrupted anymore. About twenty eight or twenty

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nine years ago, I work for
a hospital in West Palm Beach, Florida.

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The hospital has since closed down.
I had worked there for a few

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years and used the same route to
go to and from work on every shift.

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I lived in Royal Palm Beach at
the time. That meant that I

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drove east to work in the morning
in West back home in the afternoon.

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On this day I was leaving work
for home. I had come to know

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the streets on my drive quite well, and I came to recognize the scenery

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for example, one house always had
kids bicycles in the front yard. They

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were dropped where they had left them. There was a basketball or two in

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the yard, and certain cars in
particular driveways. This was the normal scenery

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for these streets, and I would
notice if something was different or unusual.

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I saw a large, dirty white
object to my left up the street.

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It was not normally there. At
first, I thought someone had discarded an

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old white or tan recliner, or
that I was looking at a discarded washing

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machine. It was far enough away
that I couldn't quite figure out what it

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was yet, and as I got
closer to it, it took more and

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more of my attention. I just
couldn't figure it out. But there was

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something about it that bothered me.
As I got even closer, I continued

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to look at it and wondered,
what the hell is that. I looked

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in my rear view mirror and I
saw no cars were behind me, and

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I began to slow down to get
a better look. When I was several

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car links from it, I took
my foot off the gas and I slowed

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down even more. My truck was
just coasting now. When I got two

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or three car links from it,
I suddenly realized that the thing that I

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was looking at was alive. I
could see skin in pores, and it

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looked like a plucked bird. Suddenly
the objects seemed to be in hyper detail

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to me, and I could see
skin and pores and wrinkles and grass stains

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here and there. I thought,
this thing can't be real. It can't.

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But I see skin, and I'm
looking at something's back, and it's

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huge. It's as big as a
washing machine, and it's crouching down.

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I didn't see arms or legs or
a head yet, just the back.

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When I was ten or twelve feet
away from it, looking at its right

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side and the back of its head, it slowly and very casually turned its

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head to look at me. I
looked directly into its face and eyes,

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and again everything seemed to come into
hyper detail, with its face seemingly to

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be directed in front of my face. It had jet black eyes, no

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visible whites. There was a small
straight mouth and slits for nostrils, and

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black freckles on its face. I
don't remember seeing ears or hair. Its

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face was devoid of emotion, completely
blank. I got no sense of male

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or female. It was intent on
me, and then it considered me,

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and then it dismissed me. I've
had years to think about this part of

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the interaction, and to say it
studied me or examine me would be wrong.

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Is that would imply too much effort. It considered me like I was

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a bug on the sidewalk. At
this point I felt a slight push or

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pressure, like someone touching my forehead
and upper chest gently with a finger,

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And I felt and heard this one
is of no consequence. The first two

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words of this kind were implied,
but the rest of the thought was clear

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as a bell. This thing,
this not human, not animal, considered

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me of no consequence. I can't
identify this thing, and it doesn't consider

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me a danger. It doesn't consider
my seeing it a threat. It considered

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me of no consequence, like that
bug on a sidewalk. While this thing

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was considering me and pushing into my
consciousness, I got to look into it,

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a slight look, but it was
a look. This thing was not

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lost, It was not alien and
not scared or hesitant. It was comfortable

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and confident. It was in its
natural habitat where it lived, and it

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had been in contact with humans before. At no time was I scared during

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this interaction. I was just confused, never having seen anything like this before,

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and I had nothing to compare it
to. I couldn't believe what I

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was seeing. I thought to myself
that I can't be seeing this, And

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even as the truck was still slowly
coasting, I closed my eyes for a

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second and I put my head down, thinking I'm not seeing this. And

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I picked my head up and I
opened my eyes, and what I saw

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only makes some sense at all.
All these years later, I recently saw

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video of one of the Navajo rangers
and he said that some entities are able

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to give us what he called snapshot
memories or visuals, to substitute for what

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you were really looking at. And
I think that's what happened. When I

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opened my eyes, I was looking
at an Australian shepherd dog. It was

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black and brown and white and sitting
there staring at me. It didn't move,

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it didn't blink, it didn't sniff, and it definitely was not a

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normal dog. I kept looking at
it and it never moved, and I

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watched it in the side view mirror
as it faded behind me, and it

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never moved. It just continued to
watch me drive away. I think I

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might have forgotten about the whole thing
if it wasn't for that push and the

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hearing of that of no consequence,
which ended up really angering me at being

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dismissed like that. And that's the
end of the story. Now. I

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thought this story was appropriate because I
I think in New Mexico or Arizona,

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there's a story going around of a
something streaking out of the sky. Many

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people saw it, and then there's
a call to nine one one from this

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family who is claiming that something landed
in their backyard and there are alien eight

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or nine foot tall creatures walking around
in their backyard. This story seems to

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be getting traction. It's kind of
it's kind of probably semigone viral. We're

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hearing a lot of things. There
was a whistleblower recently talking about the Roswell

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incident and that the United States has
a spacecraft or some kind of craft built

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not on this Earth and creatures,
or the pilots, at least the pilots

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of the craft, they're dead,
but they have them preserved and are studying

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them and are trying to reverse engineer
the crafts that they commandeered. And this

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is all interesting and it's almost like
after this whistleblower made these revelations. And

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I don't know if that if what
he's saying is valid. I have no

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idea, but I'm following the story
and trying to figure out, looking at

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YouTube videos, reading articles, trying
to find everything I can. But this

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is really interesting stuff. There's a
video of this family trying to get in

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their backyard, the one that called
nine one one, and they are scared

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to death. They they're both all
of them are armed, and they're trying

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to walk in the gate and they
keep seeing something and they're backing out and

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you don't see it in the video
anyway, Just to cut to the point,

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it kind of seems like these incidents
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I don't understand it. But you
know, the UFO thing has always been

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interesting to me, but these reports
that are coming out are fascinate. And

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you know what's weird, Nobody cares. Nobody seems to care about it.

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It's not front page news. It's
not. Of course, there's a lot

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of things going on in our country, a lot of corruption and things like

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that, it's not front page news
at all. It's like, it's like,

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I don't know what the deal is, but the news cycle and the

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news the way people report news is
so foreign to what I'm used to all

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my life. But anyway, I
thought this story kind of went along with

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or I think current events can compare
and contrast to this man's experience. What

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could that thing have been, I
don't know, but it was a fascinating

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story. Sorry, I'll talk so
much after this story, but it's it

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was really good and I wanted to
make sure you heard it. So thanks

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to the writer for sending it.
All. Right, let's see if we

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can piss a few people off in
this segment of the podcast. I have

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mentioned before to the greater audience of
this podcast that I get crazy emails from

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people you can imagine, you can
just imagine, and I've never really gone

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into detail about what they say,
but I brought a couple up here just

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to give you a little flavor of
the kind of emails that I get.

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And they make me laugh. And
I'm going to read these and kind of

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respond point by point because they're so
absurd it's unreal. I have another one

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on my phone. It's the best
one I've ever gotten, and I can't

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seem to transfer it. To my
computer. But I will, I will,

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I'll figure it out and I'll get
it in a podcast coming up pretty

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soon. But here's the first one, and this is this is one of

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probably three hundred emails I've gotten over
the years. The writer says, I

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have a question for you. You
seem pretty balanced and level headed and all

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that I've heard over the years.
I've been a subscriber to your YouTube in

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podcast for a couple of years.
Thank you very much. I appreciate you

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subscribing and listening. But why the
fascination with Steve Lily? From what I

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gather, he's a paid sasquatch hit
man, That is correct. I have

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no love for this type of person. He's a cold blooded killer. Or

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am I mistaken? The fact that
you made a channel just for him is

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beyond me. Are you so desperate
for ratings you promote the senseless killing of

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an obviously intelligent and feeling being.
Okay, you have no idea if this

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creature, if it even exists,
or if it does, if it's intelligent,

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or if it has feelings. I'm
just I'm sorry to pop your bubble

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there. He goes on to right, if I'm wrong, please educate me.

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I'm just curious as to your reasoning
for the support for Steve. No

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disrespect meant to you. I love
your podcast in videos, but do not

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get your fascination and I do not
get your fascination in support of Steve.

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Lily be well. Eric. The
only thing I can tell you, Eric,

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is I write those stories because I
want to. How's that. Okay,

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here's the next one. I have
two more. Here's one, y'all.

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I have a chicken. I'll stop
here for just a second. I

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have chickens in my office. Now. I know y'all think that's funny,

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but we have been covered up with
snakes this year. The last seven days,

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I bet I have pulled ten or
twelve snakes out of my out of

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the land boxes. They're not venomous
snakes. They're not dangerous. They will

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bite you. I've been bit in
a couple of times. If I had

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the camera and I'd show you this
scab on my hand from where a snake

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bit me. And I need to
look up what kind of snake is.

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But it's the most common snake in
this little local area, at least on

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my place. But they're these big
snakes and they can fit an egg in

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their mouth. They can eat chicks
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couple of months old. And we
do have some chicks, but they haven't

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messed with our chicks, but they're
eating the eggs. And so now these

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chickens are shy of the nesting boxes
and they want to come in my office

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and lay eggs. We're finding eggs
everywhere in my lawnmower seat and my tractor's

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seat. So if you I don't
know if y'all can hear that scratching,

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But she's over there on the plywood
floor trying to make a nest, and

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I'm just gonna let her lay her
an egg there, because then that's food

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for me. So I'm gonna I'm
gonna oblige her. And I've got another

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one standing right outside the door,
kind of scoping things out so that it

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may get even louder. Okay,
let's go to the next email. I've

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got two more emails. This woman. I think the woman said. I

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think it's a woman. She says, you've been honest, that you've never

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had any contact with these beans,
and it shows I think that's a I

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think that's a cut to me.
But I'm not gonna lie to you.

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I've never seen any sign, never
seen a foot, and never seen any

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evidence of bigfoot. And I am
a skeptic. I've said that ever since

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I started this channel, but I
do love the stories on with the email.

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I've listened to your readings from people
and that's fine, but I made

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the mistake of tuning into your Steve
Lily series and I find it horrific and

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disgusting. These beings are just like
people. Some are good and some are

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bad. My experience has been good, nothing like what you portrayed. I'm

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a fifty seven year old Native Mississippian
who never ever thought I would experience a

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relationship other than that, other than
with my own family. Please stop vilifying

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what you know nothing about. It
only encourages people to hate and fear what

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they don't know. I'm speaking from
my heart, and I wish you know

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ill well, ma'am. I wish
you no ill either, But you have

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no idea what these things are.
We don't even have a verified picture photograph

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of a bigfoot. Now everybody will
say we do, but it's not.

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We don't have us. They've not
been studied, they're not recognized by any

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university, any wildlife agency, and
you have no idea. These things could

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be vicious and they could be eating
people if they exist, or they could

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be Harry and the Henderson's. You
don't know, but thank you for the

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email. You don't have to listen
to my Steve Lily stories. And the

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reason I write them is because I
want to. Okay, here's the last

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email, and this is part of
why I love writing. This is totally

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This is on the other end of
the spectrum, and this is why.

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Yep, these chickens are getting real
lively in here. They're ready to lay

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some eggs on my floor. They're
distracting me. So I'm sorry, but

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here's a great email. And this
is just to show you. On the

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other end, I get way more
of these than I get the negative emails.

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I just think the negative emails are
so to Chris. But here's what

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the man writes. My father,
staff sergeant. He gives his name.

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I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say
his name. But they're from Detroit and

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he served in the Marine Corps during
Vietnam. He was in six years of

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combat and he passed away on April
eighteen, twenty twenty two. I wanted

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you to know how much your show
meant to us. His PTSD could get

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the best of him most days,
but your shows with Steve Lily always brought

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a smile to his face and gave
us hours of conversations during his final months

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on Earth. Sometimes the conversations were
hard to come by on my weekly visits

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with him, but when a Steve
Lily episode was published, our weekend conversations

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were long and winded. And I
can't thank you enough for the good times

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you gave me with my father towards
the end, and I'm forever grateful to

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you in your podcast, and he
says, I'm a fan for life.

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Kevin, Kevin, this is you
know, to get to get an email

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like this, to actually impress with
my crazy, weird imagination with Steve Lily,

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to impress a staff sergeant who served
in the Marine Corps in combat for

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six years invent now I'm one of
the hardest words I think our men ever

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had to fight. That means more
to me than anything. This man has

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credit. He has life experience,
he knows what life is about. He

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knows, he knows so much more, has so much more wisdom than any

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of us, and he got a
kick out of the Steve Lily stories,

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and that's all. Therefore, they're
just for you to laugh at, for

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you to enjoy the action. I
know they get violent, but that's part

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of life. This marine knows that. So that's why I write these and

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so and I'm gonna keep writing them. And the reason I write them is

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I can add one more reason I
write these other than because I want to,

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is that people like this enjoy them. There's a lot of people who

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enjoy them, and so I'm just
going to keep writing them. You don't

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have to listen to them. So
all that to say, I just wanted

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to give you a little taste to
some of the emails. And if I

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can find that really really alter a
crazy one and get it up on my

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screen on my computer, I'll read
it to you. But just to give

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you a little taste of some of
the people out there and the things that

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bothered them. I mainly just want
to say, just listen to the story

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or not move on with your life. You don't have to spend that much

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time thinking about this. Steve Lily
is not worth that much depth of thought,

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it really is it. It's just
a silly set of stories about a

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crazy guy and his crew from Memphis. It's all fiction. None of it

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is real. It's not modeled after
anybody. The stories are not made to

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cut into anybody else's yard. It's
all just for fun. So I hope

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you enjoy it. And okay,
let's go into another story here. All

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right, here's an email from Well, she didn't say whether to use your

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name or not. I guess if
I said her name. Well, now,

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I'm just not going to I'm gonna
stick with my policy. But here's

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what she writes. Two of my
granddaughters took my husband and me to the

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Gatlinburg, Tennessee to the Bigfoot Conference
two years ago. I was gravitated straight

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to you because I heard your voice. I was pleased with the total package.

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Well, I guess so, ma'am. I ain't just good looking,

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I'm smart too. I'm glad she
likes the total package. I'm just getting

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with y'all. I know what she
means, but it was I'm trying to

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I met so many people there that
Oh and by the way, I went

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to the Bigfoot conference in Anniston,
Alabama. It was a little lack luster.

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There weren't many people there. It's
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there was like six or eight vendors, and all the people there were nice.

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I got to meet Chris and Lucas. Lucas my little buddy from Alabama.

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I got let's see, let me
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I met, met Jay Jeff,
I met Jody and Joel. I got

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to see Nioma and her husband Brad. My good good friend Lenida Bryant.

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She was there helping organize it.
I got to finally meet Mary Katherine Scruggs.

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I got to let's see who else. I got to meet Texts from

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Texas Front Porch where we had some
good discussions. And I met two women

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who have a podcast. They're kind
of they're good friends with Texts called Blonds

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and Booze. They have a paranormal
podcast, and I'm gonna link their podcast

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in the description below and you guys
can check them out. A matter of

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fact, I got one of them
to talk to me. Everywhere I go,

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I carry this little recording device where
you can clip a livelier mic on

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your shirt and I just hit a
button and I can record anything. So

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if you ever run into me somewhere
and you want to tell a story.

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I've usually got it with me and
I can stick it on your shirt and

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you can tell your story right there, and I'll put it in a podcast

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because these stories are great. But
let's see who else did I meet in

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anist and I'm trying to run through. If I didn't mention your name,

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I'm sorry. And the two girls
with the Blinds and Boo podcast or Krista

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and Brandy, and they're really fun. They're real talkative and fun and friendly

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and Texas friendly. All these people
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really why I go. I didn't
have a booth there. I just kind

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of showed up and sat with Nielman
and got to talk with them and got

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to meet a few people. So
it was a good thing. Okay,

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back to the story. Almost fifty
years ago, I had my experience with

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Bickfoot. I remember every minute detail. After the incident, I went to

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work and I told it and I
was laughed at, so I shut up

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about it. And with that said, I would appreciate being anonymous. Well,

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you know what, it's a thing
I didn't say her name because she

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did tell me she wanted to be
anonymous. We live in a small town

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outside Kansas City, Missouri, and
we bought a small place with several acres

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surrounded by woods on three sides.
I hung a sign on the gate,

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and I named our farm. I'm
not gonna say the name of her farm

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because she wants to be anonymous,
because there may be some people in the

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area that have seen this side.
But anyway, she hangs a side name

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in their farm, and she said
because it was one of the cheaper spreads.

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Summer was winding down into fall,
and I had canned and frozen a

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garden bounty, and I made our
own butter and I froze it too.

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It was October and my husband took
the pork and beef to the processor and

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he told me to clean out the
meat freezer before it was ready. There

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are things the processor sins that I
would starve rather than eat, like the

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heart and the tongue and the brains
and the tailbones and such. Always just

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threw them away. But now we
still needed to get a trash pick up.

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There was a wash just a short
distance from the back of my house,

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and my husband said we could dump
the trash down there and we would

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have a friend of his covered up
with a dozer. I threw about twenty

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white paper wrapped packages of frozen meat
down in that wash. By the way,

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did I mention that I was pregnant. I was just past eight months

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pregnant, which meant I made several
trips to the bathroom each night. I

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never turned on the light in my
own house, and on my way back

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to bed, I heard the unmistakable
sound of someone in the dump walking over

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the cans and bottles. I way
back through the house and got my husband's

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sizable battery powered lantern, and I
quietly opened one of the new windows in

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the nursery. I was twenty five
feet higher because the dump was on an

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incline, and it was thirty yards
distancing below me. I saw a dark

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silhouette standing half turned from me,
holding and wrapping the frozen meat from the

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white butcher's paper, and from my
angle, the figure appeared to be six

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feet or more. I turned on
the lantern, and the figure threw up

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his right arm and turned his face
away, and then he bent down and

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gathered more of the paper wrapped frozen
meat, and then it took off down

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through the woods. I did not
see any clothes on this figure, but

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it was large and dark, and
it was massive. I never saw its

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face and I did not smell anything. But still this experience changed many things,

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such as not going out after dark. I never saw anything again.

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I didn't hear any tree knocks or
whoops. I never felt comfortable tilling the

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garden or doing yardwork after that.
Even during the day, I felt like

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something was watching me from the woods
all the time. I made it a

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point to feed the animals along before
dusk, and I moved shortly after this

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incident. Now eighty years old,
and this incident has caused a lifetime of

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interest in everything bigfoot. You know, I get that. I get that

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you see something strange, you see
something weird, and you have to find

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out what it is because there is
no explanation. There would not be more

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than likely there would not be a
person down in the ditch where y'all dumped

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your trash going through. And you
know that meat was probably I don't know

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if it was at night, it
was probably in pretty good shape, but

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if it was two or three days, it's probably getting kind of randy.

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You know that meat doesn't stay good
if it's out in the heat like that.

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This sounded like it was in the
summertime. So this is a wonderful

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story. Eighty years old and that
awesome. I love that. I hope

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I make it to eighty years old. But I love the story and I

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appreciate the woman sending it. And
if I met you at Gatlinburg, I

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know I enjoyed meeting you, ma'am. It was a pleasure to meet you.

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And I was just joking about the
total package. I know what you

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meant. That was kind of ugly
for me to say, but I always

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said to my wife. She goes, you know, you look nice in

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that shirt. To down I always
go, I ain't just good looking,

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I'm smart too, and she goes, I shrike, You're the total package.

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And then I'll leave. And this
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So I'm sorry if I offended you, but I was just playing.

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But thank you man for the story. It was wonderful. All right.

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Here's an email I thought was great. Here's what they write. I had

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something happened that changed my view of
the world back in April of twenty eleven.

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At the time, I was living
in a small house in a residential

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area of Kocomo, Indiana, which
is a bit north of Indianapolis as the

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crow flies in my house, it
was just me and my black and tan

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docks and named Scooter, and Scooter
has since crossed over the Valhalla Bridge.

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But in that time and all the
way up to his passing, he was

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a faithful and loyal companion to me. He really seemed to like running around

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in my small and close backyard like
a nut until he was out of breath.

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However, he also very much liked
riding in cars and when I would

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go to McDonald's for food, because
he knew he was going to get some

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tasty French fries as a treat.
One of our favorite things we do together

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would be the occasional camping day on
a three and a half acre parcel of

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land that I owned and still do
that lays to the east. For privacy

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concerns, I won't say exactly where
my land is, but I will say

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that it is out past Greentown,
Indiana, and I'll leave it at that.

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On this particular outing, it was
for a single day with my intention

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to stay from Saturday evening until earlier
or midday Sunday, depending on my move.

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So I loaded up my camping stuff
and Scooter jumped into the passenger side

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and took his rifle place next to
his daddy. So I drove until reaching

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the entrance of the rival road,
which went almost the whole way to the

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back of my property. And on
the left driving in, there was a

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row of fence posts, while on
the right is a line of pine trees

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that are right up close to one
another, and that being the case,

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a lot of sunlight does not get
in through there. I drove back that

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stretch of gravel road until coming to
a small grassy field that I had cleared

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out in the past. I got
out of the car and I let Scooter

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out to sniff and play, which
was his usual routine, although he never

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went for most of the time,
and if Daddy called him back, he

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would come running. So I put
up a heavy doody tent that I had

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and I placed my sleeping bag inside, along with my ice cooler and a

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couple of matching small plastic dishes for
scooters food and water. And once everything

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was done, I got out my
old and worn acoustic guitar, and then

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I took a seat in the folding
chair, and this was right next to

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a fire pit that I had made
and surrounded with large rocks, I think.

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For the next forty five minutes or
so, I played my guitar and

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I sang some of my favorite rock
and roll songs. Now I can't carry

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a tune in a bucket, but
I do rather enjoy singing anyhow, And

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the only one subjected to it at
the time we're Scooter and any birds or

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other woodland creatures hanging around. The
sun started getting lower overhead and night was

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well on its way. I had
some season firewood that I had previously chopped

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up and left it in the trunk
of my car until this day. I

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brought it out and placed my heavy
metal cooking grate over the top, and

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I got the fire going. It
wasn't long until I had a decent fire

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going. And by that time I
had pork chops in the skillet and two

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big cans of baked beans and a
heavy cooking pot, and there was enough

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room on the metal grate where both
could cook at the same time. And

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by this time the sun was pretty
much set and it was much beyond the

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fire. Nothing was visible with the
human eye. While the porch shops and

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baked beans were cooking, I went
into my tent I got out a small

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portable cutting board, which I had
brought with me to cut up my potatoes

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and onions and carrots. At that
time, my eyebought scooter at the rear

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of the tent. He was laying
on a sleeping bag where my head would

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be if I were in it.
While I looked at him, and then

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I dutifully returned to cutting up my
veggies because they would go real good with

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the pork shops and baked beans.
My mother always said to eat your vegetables,

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and I surely wasn't about to disappoint
my mother, whether I was a

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grown man or not. I got
everything cut up on the board, and

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I figured I should better check up
on those pork shops and that they probably

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needed to be flipped in the skillet. Imagine my surprise when I got out

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of the tent and I saw that
both the skillet and the pork shops and

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the cooking pot with my baked beans
were nowhere in sight. I was thinking,

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what the fiddle sticks? Is somebody
out here pranking me? I looked

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around the fire as best I could
by the firelight, and I didn't see

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00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.720
a dang thing. Where was my
food? I was mad. I remember

410
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.160
not only thinking that in my head, but saying it out loud. I

411
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:17.440
finally went back inside the tent.
I brought my vegetables out and carefully placed

412
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.920
them on the metal grade as best
as I could. I think about a

413
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.640
third of the carrots and potatoes and
onions fell through the slots and into the

414
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.599
fire, so that made me even
more mad. Once it was done,

415
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.920
I sat in my chair near the
fire and I grumbled to myself about what

416
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:37.240
could have possibly been a delicious meal. The only other things I had to

417
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:41.880
eat besides Scooter's food, and I
wasn't about to eat that well. Besides

418
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.400
his food and a banana and a
granola bar, I ate both of them.

419
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:49.960
After eating what few veggies I had
left, I got out the guitar

420
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.559
again, and I made up a
sad song on the fly by my food

421
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.359
and how I was not happy that
I didn't have it in my mouth and

422
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:01.799
belly where it belonged. I would
say that. After another fifteen or twenty

423
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.680
minutes, I got up and I
went to the tent. I tried to

424
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.960
get Scooter to go out and do
his business, but he wasn't having any

425
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:14.759
of that. No amount of coaxing
would get him to do anything. He

426
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.240
just lay there on the sleeping bag
with his chin on top of it.

427
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.400
Well, I said to him and
myself, Okay, if you don't want

428
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.119
to go, so don't go.
So I lay down on the sleeping bag

429
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:30.720
and Scooter repositioned himself next to my
head. I know I had to have

430
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:36.079
drifted off to sleep, because when
I'm relaxed, it's usually not long until

431
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.079
I am sound asleep. But I
was woken up by a metallic banging sound.

432
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.359
It was so loud and when it
happened, it probably woke up people

433
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.960
in the next county that were asleep
at the time. Scooter gave out two

434
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:54.759
half hearted barks, then he stopped. Usually the noise like that would have

435
00:32:54.839 --> 00:33:00.200
him barking his head off, but
no two barks, and that was I

436
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.039
yelled, hey, who's out there? I really did not know what to

437
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.160
think, and I had different ideas
in my head, like maybe it was

438
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:12.759
someone playing a prank on me,
or could it somehow be a coyote or

439
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.880
a cow that got out of the
pasture. I had no good idea of

440
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.920
what really was going on out there
beyond the walls of my tent. But

441
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.160
after regaining some composure, I clicked
a little led blue light on my digital

442
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:31.400
watch and the time read one fifty
seven am in the morning. I waited

443
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:37.079
and listening for a bit longer and
more complete silence. I think I had

444
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.799
fallen back to sleep somehow, and
it must have been because even with this

445
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.079
weirdness, I didn't feel like I
was in danger. I woke up again

446
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.480
later and heard what sounded like heavy
sticks or tree limbs being beaten on a

447
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:55.480
nearby tree, and as shortly afterwards, I heard the same sound coming back

448
00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.720
from farther away. What in the
world a Jimmy crickets is going on out

449
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.200
there? I thought. I pushed
a button on the side of my watch

450
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.599
again and the led like did what
it was supposed to, and now it

451
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:13.880
said three twelve am. I didn't
think I would be able to get back

452
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.360
to sleep at this point. I
was fuming again, thinking about those pork

453
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.400
chops and baked beans I paid for
and never got to taste. I was

454
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:28.320
thinking this and a couple other random
thoughts when I began hearing heavy footsteps around

455
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.119
my tent and do what I thought
must have been circling it. Now this

456
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:38.119
might be speculation, but I think
whatever was doing this was purposefully being loud

457
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:43.239
and annoying, maybe to see how
I would respond. I don't know.

458
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.960
But then I heard something grunting,
and that really put me on edge.

459
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.880
Scooter was now trying to climb under
me and pawing like docsins are known to

460
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.960
do. Now I was thinking,
did I need some kind of weapon for

461
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.559
protection, because I'm not a gun
guy, nor have I ever been.

462
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.320
I did have a small kitchen knife
that I used to cut up the vegetable,

463
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.960
so I kind of fumbled around inside
the tent until I felt the plastic

464
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:13.000
handle, and then I clutched it
to my chest. Now, don't any

465
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.079
of y'all worry. I could feel
around and Scooter was safely off to my

466
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:21.880
side. It was now when I
was hearing the footfalls of something I knew

467
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:27.519
was on two legs, and that
deep guttural grunting had me completely stationary,

468
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.760
like I was a statue. And
then I heard what sounded like a tuba

469
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:37.239
blast. I kid you not.
It was quiet for a few more seconds,

470
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:43.320
and then another deep blast that could
only be a fart of monumental proportions.

471
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.920
It was surreal, and I was
on one hand completely terrified, and

472
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.119
on the other to my childish sense
of humor, it was one of the

473
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:58.480
funniest things I had ever heard.
Whatever it was, it kept going around

474
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.159
my tent and every saw often letting
out a huge, deep fart that lasted

475
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:07.440
from a few seconds to several depending
on whichever fart was coming out at the

476
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.199
time. Well, I bent down
on my lip and tongue to stifle a

477
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:15.440
lap because I really really had wanted
to do that, and I finally heard

478
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.880
one more huge fart, and this
one was by far the loudest and probably

479
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:23.840
lasted a good twenty seconds or so. It didn't shake my tent, but

480
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.719
I surely smelled what had to be
the remains of my baked beans, along

481
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.559
with the skunky and garbage smell.
And then everything went back to complete and

482
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.639
utter silence. I heard nothing more
the rest of the night, and when

483
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:43.000
the sun came up, I went
outside with Scooter. He was more than

484
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.599
ready to do his business then,
and while he was having his morning and

485
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:51.719
routine, I saw my heavy cooking
pot. It had a huge dimple in

486
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.280
the side and the metal grate was
now completely off the rocks around the fire

487
00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:00.440
pit that it had been perched on. Clearly whatever or this was had stolen

488
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:06.920
my food and then thanked me by
smashing my pot against my great I quickly

489
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.760
packed everything up in scooter and I
boogie it on out of there. I've

490
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.079
returned to my land several times and
I never have seen or heard anything like

491
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:21.239
I did that night. Oh and
also I never did find my cast iron

492
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.639
skillet. Oh, this was a
great story. This guy doesn't have he

493
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.920
had a full blown encounter. He
doesn't have PTSD, doesn't have any trouble

494
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.800
with it. And he kind of
made light of his story and added some

495
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.920
humor to it, and I love
that and I appreciate the way he wrote

496
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.159
it. Such a good story.
I'd love to hang around this guy.

497
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.199
He's got a great attitude. Hasn't
seen anything since, and I guess that's

498
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:51.199
a good thing. Thank you,
sir for the story. At the beginning

499
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.159
of this podcast, I told you
guys that I got to sit down with

500
00:37:54.280 --> 00:38:00.480
Krista of the Blond and Booze podcast. I asked, I said, do

501
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.000
you have a story that I could
mike you up and you could tell a

502
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:06.119
story for our audience. And she
goes, oh, yeah, yeah,

503
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:07.159
I've got a bunch of them.
She goes, you want to hear one?

504
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.800
I said, man, let's do
it. So her and I walked

505
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:15.480
out to a picnic area outside the
conference and we were outside. You're gonna

506
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.480
hear some outside noises and stuff,
and I think that's kind of cool.

507
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.679
Anyway. She tells a story of
how they encountered what she believes as an

508
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:29.280
actual demon, and it's a bit
haunting. I'd love to do a bunch

509
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.960
of these if anybody lives close to
me and they want me to, they

510
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.440
want to meet somewhere and let me
mike you up. You can tell you

511
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.960
whole story. You can go an
hour if you want to and tell us

512
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.559
all about your experiences. I'll record
them, put them on the podcast,

513
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.320
and we'll go from there. But
this will be the last part of the

514
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.440
podcast. Thank you all for joining
us, and I hope you enjoy Christa's

515
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:58.960
story. My name is Christa Tweety
and I'm with Bonds and Booze paranormal podcasts

516
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:04.159
and we'd um a little bit of
everything. But I got into this by

517
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:09.199
doing ghost stuff, paranormal type stuff. We um been doing that for twenty

518
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:15.320
years and I've always been a believer
in the odd stuff. But um,

519
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.199
you care if I ask questions?
Yeah? Ask them? Yeah? So

520
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:23.440
what got you interested? What?
What piqued your interest in all the supernatural

521
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:28.039
kind of stuff and the supernatural kind
of stuff. I've just seen things,

522
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:32.079
weird stuff my whole life, and
I wanted answers. And it wasn't until

523
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:37.000
um, like, my grandmother passed
away and she used to do a lot

524
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.480
of weird stuff. She had crystals
and things like that, and I just

525
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.519
called him rocks. I was like, you're silly, you know for having

526
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.840
things like that. But uh so, I just I just came to love

527
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:51.559
it. And it was until she
actually passed away that I found a lot

528
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.960
of her stuff, her books.
She had books on big Foot, she

529
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:59.519
had books on go she had big
books on metaphysics, a little bit of

530
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:01.679
everything. So it's a family,
it is, it is. And I

531
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:06.800
always thought she was crazy, you
know, and uh I realized that that

532
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.320
I think right now honestly, she's
she's passed and I feel like I live

533
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.239
vicariously like through her. She's you
know, she helps to guide me.

534
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:17.199
And I actually know she does because
the story I'm going to tell you,

535
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:22.360
she was a huge part of that. After she had passed, so it

536
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:28.159
was so this was back in two
thousand and eighteen. I know, like

537
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:32.639
I said, always done the ghost
thing. We UM there's been several cases

538
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:37.000
that we've done and people have reached
out and they don't get the right help.

539
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:38.880
And and a lot of them when
somebody says, you know, it's

540
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:44.079
a negative type entity, people are
scared. Who's going to help these people?

541
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.679
If there's not people out there like
myself to do that. So I

542
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:52.719
took it upon myself. I started
studying demonology and I studied under Jeremy Leonard.

543
00:40:53.280 --> 00:41:07.559
We'll wait till that goes by edit
about leon but uh, I studied

544
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:12.039
demonology under Jeremy Leonard and he's still
to this day someone who I can reach

545
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:16.599
out to if I if I need
to, yes, yes, and he

546
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:22.079
he's the Cajun demonologist and he uh, he's helped me out a lot.

547
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.280
But this one particular case, I've
got a friend who um his name is

548
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.840
is uh Tony Pickman, and he's
the one that made uh the Sally House

549
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:35.199
and Atchison Kansas kind of put that
one on the books. UM TV show

550
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:43.199
sightings was when he first got his
notoriety. So Tony also does the bad

551
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.519
stuff, and um, he kind
of recruited me to help him out on

552
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:52.320
he had an upcoming case and he
told me it's true demonic entity. And

553
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.079
uh, you know that's another thing. I'll back up. A lot of

554
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:55.960
people, you know, say,
oh, I have a demon in my

555
00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.119
house. No, you don't.
Demons are out there, however, they're

556
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.880
few and far between. So,
um, just because you know you have

557
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.480
doors opening or something like that,
you know, it could be just Grandma

558
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:12.920
Sue trying to get your attention.
You know. It's not always a bad

559
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:19.000
thing, but this one dead Grandma
Sue. Dead Grandma Sue. Yeah,

560
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.199
he asked me to help him with
this case, and it's like, you

561
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.360
know, of course I'm in you
know. So the lady m backstory on

562
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:31.199
this location. The lady is one
of the survivors of the BTK Killer,

563
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:40.000
the serial killer from Whichita Kansas and
the and the the boyfriend he was.

564
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.760
He had done twenty seven years in
prison for murder. He was one of

565
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.760
the M thirteen gang members. We
didn't know that until we got there,

566
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.559
you know, and then ended up
where it goes back. Don't judge a

567
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:57.559
book by its cover, because I
mean, granted, I don't agree with

568
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.760
what he did, but he changed
his life around. And and they were

569
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:05.360
good people, you know, just
scared. And the man was probably I

570
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:09.679
would say, a good three fifty
four hundred pounds. And he was thrown

571
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.559
in the room and that's where they
reached out. And we're like, okay,

572
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:17.039
this a little more than Casper here, you know. So and and

573
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:22.320
Tony had told me that it's it's
definitely, you know, something something negative.

574
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.079
You know, he's being thrown the
whole nine yards. So we do

575
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.480
it. We do it. We
go in and we do baseline readings and

576
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.079
walk through and I can usually I
can pick up when there's a ghost or

577
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:38.880
you feel it, yes, and
so um and same thing with demons.

578
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:42.639
When it's a true demon, I
get dizzy. I feel like I'm going

579
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.559
to pass out. Walk through that
whole house and nothing, nothing, absolutely

580
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.960
nothing. And I told Tony there's
nothing here, you know. So um,

581
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.800
I have a bad habit. I
smoked cigarettes and my friend Kathy and

582
00:43:54.880 --> 00:44:00.920
I went outside to smoke, and
so I told Tony nothing here. You

583
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.280
know, I'm not picking up on
nothing. So I don't know if they're

584
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.440
b s and us or just to
get us here or what And that also

585
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:13.400
happens because Tony is a well known
investigator, and that's happened with him too.

586
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.880
You know, people say they have
something just to get them there.

587
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.280
So they had a shout out back
and it was probably twenty feet away from

588
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.800
us, and strang to it.
Walked down there to it, my friend

589
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:31.039
Kathy and myself, and something came
out and swooshed us, knocked us both

590
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:37.119
to the ground. True story.
So I told Kathy, I said,

591
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.159
well, I'm going to stay out
here and you go in and casually tell

592
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:47.199
Tony renege on my words, we
found it. So Tony he has abilities

593
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:51.840
himself, and he didn't have the
abilities until he lived in the Sally House.

594
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.840
And his abilities are just phenomenal.
I mean he can name your great

595
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.320
great grandma by name. I mean, he's just he's amazing. And so

596
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.559
he came outside and I told him, you know what happened, Kathy and

597
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.280
I did. We're a little shook
up, you know, And he kept

598
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:13.239
reminding me no fear, We showed
no fear to these things. And we

599
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:17.119
went inside casually and the lady,
she's Their house too was very dark and

600
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:22.000
somber. But their house was very
you know, they kept the shades drawn

601
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.800
and it was just just a really
dark house. You know, a lot

602
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:32.360
of depression and stuff going on there. And so we went inside and Tony

603
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.639
had the ladies sit down and he
told her what he was going to do.

604
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.280
And when we go in and do
this, it's literally it's full on

605
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:43.599
prayers. You know, before we
go. There's preparation. You know,

606
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:45.880
you have to be right with God
number one. You know, we don't

607
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.800
go in like if we're sick or
you know, anything like that. We're

608
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.880
totally you know, you have to
be stand your ground, you know.

609
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:59.920
And so Tony told me, he
said, I'm gonna call it in.

610
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.199
He said, I need you to
stand here at this hallway and don't let

611
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:07.559
it through. I'm like, okay, and he said he he said,

612
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.800
I got you. He said,
just no fear. So he started taunting

613
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.239
and finally got it to come in
the back door, which was led.

614
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:21.679
There was a hallway there. Literally
this thing came in and I could feel

615
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:25.039
the breath. It was this close
to my face. I could feel the

616
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:32.599
breath of this thing. Yes,
it was literally that close breathing in my

617
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:42.119
face. This creature was right there
in my face. Yep, within probably

618
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.000
three seconds, Tony said move and
I moved to the side. He came

619
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:52.360
in. He held that lady's hands, and myself and Kathy we started praying

620
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.480
over them, and and Tony he
he just goes into this place. Well

621
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.599
in the meantime, the lady she's
lashing out things, saying things that she

622
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:05.159
shouldn't know. That only something from
the other side about all of us,

623
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:07.519
you know. And that's the thing
with the demonic. They know everything about

624
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:13.199
you. Your deepest, darkest secrets
they can come out, and so you

625
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:16.239
need to trust the people you're with, you know. We kept praying,

626
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.159
and what I'm going to tell you, unless you witness it, people think

627
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.719
I am full of crap, but
I swear it on the Holy Bible is

628
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:31.639
one hundred and ten percent true.
We started watching slashes like invisible razor blades

629
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.760
coming onto Tony. His head started
bleeding, his arms were being torn up

630
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:45.519
by excuse me, and some unknown
force. Our praying got more and more,

631
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.119
you know, I started doing our
Father, who aren't Heaven? You

632
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:52.360
know, and it was it was
more forceful, and after a few minutes,

633
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.480
like you see, you you only
hear about it on the TVs where

634
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:02.880
like the house gets lighter and brighter. That happened. I witnessed God come

635
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:12.199
in that house that night. The
whole atmosphere changed, their attitude changed.

636
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:17.719
It was unbelievable in just a few
minutes of what happened. But I witnessed

637
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:22.280
it, and God is my witness. It is one hundred and ten percent

638
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.199
the truth. And to this day, you know, I had I had

639
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.599
talked to them. We don't just
like, okay, we're done, we're

640
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.480
leaving. We stay in contact,
make sure everything's going okay. I told

641
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.440
her, I, so you need
to open your house, you know,

642
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.880
you need to let some sun in
and and you know, open your windows,

643
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:39.880
get some fresh air in here,
and and things like that. And

644
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:47.559
that lady she went on to um
uh try out for American Idol. She

645
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.360
didn't get it, she didn't get
on there. But the fact that she

646
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.320
got out of her house and she
went and did that, you know,

647
00:48:53.599 --> 00:49:00.960
and and uh, and he now
preaches whatever I'll do. These these questions

648
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:07.440
are just but so this line kind
of just shows up and you think it's

649
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:13.880
the Lord. Yeah, and so
the demon's fleet is that I know what

650
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.559
happened. So the cutting and stuff
was that just something that was it was

651
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:23.639
attacking Tony because actually really getting cut. Yes, so he had wounds,

652
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.960
He had wounds, scar wounds and
on top of this, he was not

653
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:32.360
even holding across nothing the palm of
his hand. He had a burnt and

654
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.519
cross. Do you have scars to
this day from that? Well, that

655
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.360
happens to him when he does these
negative cases. So that's we knew it

656
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.360
was coming. We knew it was
going to happen, but for me that

657
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.119
that was the first time I actually
witnessed it with him and this happening.

658
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:53.559
You almost did an exorcism in this
house. We did. That is phenomenal.

659
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:59.280
Yeah, we did. So you
can't tell the exact location, what

660
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:04.880
state we're Selena, Kansas, Santas. Yeah, and it was it was

661
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:12.360
I witnessed evil, true evil,
and then I witnessed God, the power

662
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.800
of God. Yeah. And they
are living, you know, like good

663
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.599
Christian life. They're good people.
You know at one time they weren't.

664
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.559
Now there are a lot of people
who will say it's like you mentioned when

665
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:30.440
you were talking that it's like Grandma
can contact you. There are a lot

666
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.360
of people. I've done a little
bit not in death reading and listening to

667
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.440
podcasts yeah, I've done a little
reading on it. There are a lot

668
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:43.880
of people who will say that is
a damon these these entities. A lot

669
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:49.639
of people believe that that you're coming
in contact with Yeah it's my grandma.

670
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.800
No, it's not. A lot
of people believe that. I don't.

671
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.480
Don't think that. I don't.
I don't I believe so goest to me.

672
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:01.079
They're stuck here. They they have
not crossed over for whatever their reason.

673
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:06.039
A spirit is different. That is
grandma or you know, a past

674
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.039
loved one, or they can come
and go. They check on us,

675
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:12.840
you know, they're you know,
when you lose someone, they're they're always

676
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.360
with us. You know, you
just have to think about them. And

677
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.679
that's the spirit side where they've crossed
that they can come back. And that's

678
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.039
what my grandma is. She she
she was there that night. Yeah.

679
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.199
So it's a crazy stuff.

