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Okay, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome

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to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.

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We don't have Jagan Zaliz in today. He's not feeling well. If

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you listened yesterday, he was starting
to feel a little under the weather and

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now he's out for the day.
So I have my guy Kevin here today

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to run the board, talk a
little sports, talk a lot of sports

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with a couple of great guests.
Later in the show, Kevin, how

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are you. I'm good. Good. It was a good break. It

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was a long enough break, cold
break, but yeah, you was back

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to Saint Louis. I did Saint
Louis and Saint Louis soon, Louis.

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I've been there at time or two, very cold at the same year.

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It was only only snowed once.
Yeah, no one, Yeah, now

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it's going you love just in time. Hey, bad game last night or

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a good game for you? I
guess Yeah. I had a bet on

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Michigan with our friends and DraftKings.
But yeah, it was it was a

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It was a little bit of a
slow game at points. Yeah, from

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the late to the second quarter to
the third. Yet, Yeah, we

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were talking about it and we were
trying to decide whether it was Washington not

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looking so good or if it was
Michigan looking so good. Right, right,

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they made Washington look like so so
re imposed this question and we'll get

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into that in a second. Uh, if they played ten times, what

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would be the differential eight to two? That's what I thought too. That's

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because you won't see a bad Washington
like this again. But they're not good

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enough to be in Michigan. And
I didn't realize how good Michigan was given

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they hadn't really plaid a whole lot, but they were prepared obviously, they

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had some studs. And their quarterback
is so stable. He's not flashy,

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he's stable. And again I say
this all time, what else do you

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need in a quarterback is guy who
just does the job, stability and a

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levelheadedness. Almost right. I did
think it was interesting that that he looked

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a little shaky after his first three
completions. He went three for three and

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then over four, and I was
like, oh, this is good.

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He didn't complete very many passes.
He didn't need to. What did you

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go like ten for eighteen? Yeah, he didn't need to. They ran.

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They were man. Those first touchdowns
were like, are they going to

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stop them? We were talking about
it last night. We were watching we

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were watching the game. I said
it in the group chat. I was

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like, they're just Michigan is too
massive in the trenches. They're too big

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defensive line and too solid on the
offensive line, and it's proving At that

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point it was looking like a blowout. I think it was early in the

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first quarter that I said that.
But you know, did you when you

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were watching Washington and I was surprised
that the Panics that played so poorly,

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but not really given that Michigan played
the was all over him. Uh midway

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through the fourth quarter, late in
the fourth quarter, I'm thinking, Man,

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it's a bad look. I don't
know, I don't know what people

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wrote today or last night. In
a sense, it's a bad look that

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he was left in the game late
and he was you could hardly move.

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Yeah, I mean, did you
think that. I thought it was it

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was gutsy of him to play the
way that he but he probably wanted to

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play obviously. I think Ennix looked
a lot more hampered out there, but

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I kind of reminded me of Justin
Fields that one year where he clearly had

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a rib thing. Uh, And
I believe when Ohio State might have been

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clemsing there playing against but he was
getting laid up, and I was like,

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Wow, this kid has some guts
to him. And I felt the

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same way about Penix. That video
of him leaving the field limping back to

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the locker room was honestly really sad
to see, but it kind of shows

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how the whole Washington team got treated
in that game, right. I was

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telling the person I was with that
that he had lost he had lost some

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money last night, last week,
last week, and you can't just judge

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a dude on one game. Like
last week he was over the top and

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fantastic and everyone said, who is
this dude? In fact, somebody said

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to me on the text one of
our listeners said, tell Jaya resend his

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Heisman vote from Penix. Wow,
because because he was so good and Jay

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all week was like people needed to
know that they didn't see him play.

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And then he had this clunker of
a game. But you're allowed. I

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mean, you know, I don't
walk on water. You walk on water.

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Who walks on water? So you're
not gonna have a game like that

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every game. And I didn't think
I didn't think he looked awful last night.

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But I do think that Michigan showed
some holes in how to speed up

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his processing and how to make him
look a little more confused. But even

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when they were speeding him up,
he was still able to There was that

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call where they had the holding in
the end zone, he pointed it out

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and still delivered an absolute beam to
the end zone. Yeah, and so

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I think there's some there were some
simmers in there. There were some things

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that they're holding. Call when he
when he did fundy connect on a guy

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seventy three, I think was called
for holding that wide open paths was horrible

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when he overthrew shot him that would
have kept him in the game, that

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would have give him a chance.
So there were so many things that could

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have happened, but not enough for
them to win because Michigan was so good

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all around defensive of the offensively,
I mean, I thought the surprise of

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obviously the surprise of the whole first
half was Edwards for Michigan. The two

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forty yard touchdown runs the second and
third longest touchdown runs in college football National

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championship history. Yeah, first was
Derek Henry. No surprise there. Yeah,

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but yeah, I thought. I
thought Blake korm put on a great

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performance at cap off his career.
He did the still running back to the

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small running back. Yeah, two
touchdowns one hundred and thirty four yards,

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which is ridiculous. Yeah. I
think overall, Michigan just showed it really

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flexed their muscle last night. I
think, yeah, yeah, no question

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he moved that. So we can
have two eyes on this. If you

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guys want to call us, we
have about ten minutes five to two oh

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four one six seventy forty. Give
us a call if you want to join

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you in the show. Jay is
out for the day seeing if he's getting

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better with his voice. Steve to
you to your point, Michael Pennix,

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guess how many attempts he had last
night? Forty something? Didn't he north?

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Fifty something? Fifty one fifty one, So maybe the graphic I saw

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was like he was twenty seven for
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then he had he had three more
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getting torched a lot of times.
That was supposed to be the best offensive

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line in the in the college game, but by that time they were probably

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saying, you know, I've had
enough of this. Yeah, and they

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were getting they were getting manhandled for
a little bit. I think, I

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think you can only take so many
gut punches before you got it just and

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he was literally gone getting good punch
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Yeah. And then number seven,
I can't remember Crawford, I can't remember

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his name. Number seven, the
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That you're right Johnson, he was, Yeah, he was I think from

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the start. I think I think
they said that he had some fluid in

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his need at like burst. There's
fluid sacing need a burst, and so

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he's been playing through that. But
he was visibly Yeah, he couldn't.

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He couldn't go as well either,
But you know they got there. You

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know, the Pac twelve could have
had a champion of Michigan was just too

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tough. The storyline all year.
I thought it was kind of strange,

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but uh, poetic justice too,
right. They they're accused of a lot

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of things all year. Uh,
he's suspended for least six games, and

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then they win the title. How
do you think that the coverage has been

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host and slash will be going forward
for this team? Like what do you

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think there? I don't know,
Uh, the team that wanted with an

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asterisk because we're not clear really on
what the full story is. I think

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they're still investigating, right, they
still think they are, but I think

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it's unrelated to what Connor Stallions.
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if you remember, they were investigating
a laptop that had nothing to do with

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Michigan. Oh, that was previous
to the whole Well, they let go

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of an assistant coach, right,
one of the defensive coordin internactions. His

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name has been linked at Arizona Football
in terms of possibly coming here, no,

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possibly coming here now Stallion Stallions was
was uh and that was just maybe

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the internet type of thing. But
we'll see, I guess where they're smokes

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fire and we'll see what comes of
it. But it's a year of controversy

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and the controversial team wins it all. Yeah, I mean it was it

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was. It was kind of a
shame because we were talking about it went

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at the height of the controversy as
well. It's a shame for the players

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because they actually probably were the best
team. But yeah, they'd be a

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bust the rest and become the best
team. I didn't maybe I didn't watch

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them often enough, but they really
struggled against some teams and some teams they

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didn't and here they were winning and
winning, and they beat the heck out

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of Washington. Last night I got
a text from one of my friends last

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night that told me that they think
that if Georgia had made it, and

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they would have, if Georgia would
have probably maybe probably. I still liked

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Oregon. Oregon couldn't do what it
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to be there. But Georgia did
look very, very strong. I just

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think they're that good. They probably
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after how Alabama booked Georgia or yeah, yeah, probably Yeah. Three time

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champion Michigan State handles Ohio State this
year, Georgie should handle Alabama, that's

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my opinion. Michigan State in Michigan, Yeah, Michigan, right, so

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a good game. I want to
call and talk to us about that.

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The trying feel free. Anything else
going on, we'll talk more about that.

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We have to get this ice out
of my mouth. Marquise Flowers,

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former u of A linebacker who's a
former NFL guy. He's been pretty vocal

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on Twitter. I wanted to see
if he can come on, and he

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said yeah, So he'll be on
in about three fifteen, three seventeen,

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talking all things u A football,
his career, things like that, maybe

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last night's game, the state of
Nil, the college game, and he'll

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be fun to talk to. I
haven't seen talk to him, and since

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he's been gone to the NFL and
now he's retired, and then we're gonna

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have Brian Peabody. He's been a
guest before a time or two and they're

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an unknown success right now. They're
like fourteen to fifteen and one at Pima,

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killing the heck out of people and
scoring a lot of points in the

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process. I ran into him last
week before you a basketball game and said

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he came to come on. He
said, sure, let's let's do this.

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So he's coming on talking about the
success of his basketball program. So

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there you have it. So that's
what I'm looking forward to. Jay's out,

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got Kevin in today. Did you
sorry interrupted? Did you see they

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released the final poll? Yeah?
Yeah, Iton on number eleven, number

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eleven, I didn't highest ranking since
nineteen ninety eight, right when they were

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fourth, I think, right?
Is that right? I didn't see that.

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Yeah, I didn't see the poll. I didn't see the complete poll.

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If you can find it, go
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posted something on Facebook. You know, I have the complete po go ahead,

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go ahead. Michigan one, Washington
to Georgia, Texas, Alabama at

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five, Florida State at six,
Oregon number seven, Missouri number eight,

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well, miss number nine, Ohio
State ten, and then our Arizona Wildcats

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at number eleven. Just want ahead
of jayde and Daniels and Lsu. Yeah,

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no, I think that's fair.
I think that's fair. Georgia jumped

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into number four five four, Georgia
number three three did jumped out for Alabama

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five. Yeah, so the people
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handle, and then Missouri came in
at what's seven, eight eight? So

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that's pretty good for them too,
Awesome. They're like, yeah, sure,

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they're like Arizona kind of under the
radar and they had a great year.

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Yeah, I've been talking to my
friends at Miszoo all the time about

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that there are a lot of similarities
or two programs this season. In a

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way, Miszoo was like one of
the lowest ranked teams in the SEC preseason,

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and then Eli drink Witz has this
almost dream season right for them.

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He's a funny coach, he's a
good coach. He's a goof. Yeah,

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he's a good coach, right right, right, right, he's like

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a dude coach was not willing to
do I think he showed up to someone

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high school game in a helicopter.
Yeah, he's a dude. Yeah.

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Something used to do that. Yeah, how did that go? You know,

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someone didn't get Luther Burton on the
team, you get anybody on the

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team. Yeah, but yeah,
I think there are some stilarious Missoo and

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Arizona. But we'll see if that
ends after this season, right right,

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So you'll be done with this year
and then you'll have the pride of the

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football team when you're gone. Exactly
when they could be, you know,

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they could do all seventy. They'll
probably be in the top ten at some

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point next year. Strong be very
very capable of being in the top twelve

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overall. To get in the playoffs. I think there's some projections of them

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at four. My new bracket's going
to be really fun. Yeah, I'm

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interested to see the discourse around the
teams at thirteen and fourteen next year.

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I'm not saying it's going to be
as big of a controversy as the one

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it's a fourteen. No, No, that's interesting. There's always going to

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be that discomfort with there's always that
looking basketball when you have sixty nine to

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seventy, when you have sixty eight
teams, you know, we deserve to

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be in. We deserve to be
in. You know how many teams deserve

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to be in? A lot?
Yeah, it depends on you. Yeah,

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and twelve is an odd number to
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because it's the sweet sixteen. Yeah. Yeah, easier bracket to look at.

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I never thought about it that way. I don't know why twelve made

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yeah, no, No, Eventually, eventually before you turn thirty, it'll

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The NFL by the time on fifty
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be long gone, dude. It's
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I'm good. How about you?
We're doing well. We're doing well.

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I see you or see your stuff
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says, I gotta have Marquis on
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I like it. Oh yeah,
man, Yeah, I'm opinion I

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still use Twitter like it's twenty eleven. So some people, you know,

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kind of take advance of that,
but I'm always be me. No,

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No, that's cool. That's cool. And in fact, you're a big

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advocate for the UA football program trying
to convince guys that to take a try

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on Arizona. Absolutely absolutely, because
I mean it's still a brotherhood, it's

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a family, you know. I
just want to, you know, see

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U of a flourish. I don't
get no money for that. That U

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of AD didn't ask me to do. That's just something that I want to

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do because you know, I think
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I think it's special. You know, guys want to be a part

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of something special. I mean it's
hard for me to recruit because I didn't

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come I didn't come out during the
nil and all the other stuff. So

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I'm just trying to get them with, you know, stuff that guys like

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to do, from poor parties to
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everything ain't got to be about money. So you know, I'm trying to

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go a different way. But clearly
I need some work because you know I

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haven't got one. I slid one
yet. Sure No, In fact,

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you're like Gronk, you know the
pool parties. That's the first thing get

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on the line, which makes total
sense obviously here in the summer and in

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the great months. What what does
Arizona mean to you? Or what did

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it mean to you when you were
here and then when you're not here because

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now you're grad I mean it meant
I mean when I was there. I

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mean, like I said, like
I see the interview that the want I

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don't want to mess the name up
for Irbie the Irby after the game in

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it, and I think it's spot
on. It's the same thing, the

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culture or the family, the brotherhood. You know, I still talk to

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a lot of guys that played did
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and even the past guys before me, they played that you know, came

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to help out. And I think
it's a misconcession that a lot of alumni

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doesn't care about the program, because
I'll tell you a lot of alumni,

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we all care about the program and
you know, and hope the pro program

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does well. So it's a it's
a big thing. Obviously, I'm a

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grad now it scares me a little
bit. I'm getting old, right,

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U sounds like yesterday we were all
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same thing, same passion for watching
these guys play, watching these guys

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go win, and how hard they're
working to turn the program around. It's

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amazing. Yeah, yeah, no
question. And you've done a great job

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during school and now post school.
You have a question, Kevin, Yes,

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and Marky's I saw on Twitter.
Excuse me, I saw on Twitter

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that you said that Arizona should be
in the top ten. I agree that

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we're a top ten caliber team,
but I was wondering of the schools above

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us, which I'll give to you
in a second. You don't have my

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top of your mind. Which school
do you think we have the better resume

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than the schools above us? Are
old? Miss Miszoo, Oregon and Ohio

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State. Honestly, you know,
I did look at the schools before.

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There's some pretty good We're up there
with some pretty good schools. But that's

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the thing media. I think the
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and the prestige of the schools throughout
the years. It's a good thing,

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though, because once the media kind
of gets on and starts, you know,

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showing too much love, that's when
you know, it's easy to get

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distracted. So I would say out
of that list though, based off what

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we did this season. That's why
I think they need to base it off

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of this season, obviously winning the
last seven and being two overtime losses away

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from being twelve and one. I
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I don't care who they move out
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probably pitch State, get them out
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but them programs are going to be
good. It doesn't it doesn't matter because

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twenty four season started. Don't matter
where you at, it's about where you

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finished. So it's gonna be a
fun year, yeah, no, no

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question. Uh. And next year
I think a few We're gonna talk about

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that later. That Arizona looks to
be projected to be in the top ten

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to start the year. Oh yeah, yeah, there's all these different the

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ap all that. Once the season
started, Arizona just got to focus on

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their selves. I mean, they're
gonna be in some big games, They're

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gonna have some close games. Every
team is going to go through adversity,

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even the teams in the top.
But I think it's a great thing for

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Coast football because, like I said, back when I played, it was

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like you lost one game and it
was like your CV, any dreams or

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national champions or anything, it's over. You have to go to the next

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thing. Okay, well we want
to go to a BCS bo uls lose

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two games, that's probably out out
of it. So it was like,

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I think it's a lot better.
You know that these guys don't got to

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be extremely perfect. You know,
they're not looking for perfection. So a

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twelve team playoff, I think it's
gonna be fun. I think cost football

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getting better. The transferport was a
little shaky. I'm not gonna lie,

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but you know, what can you
do. You got to just go through

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it and let it evolve. Sure, sure, you sound like an old

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dude, back in my day,
you were just here. What are you

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talking about? Yeah, well,
I'm old man, I'm feeling I'm starting

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feeling there. I think they have
posted because I played in an All American

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game, they had posts they just
posted. Maybe feel even more old.

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The last selections from Arizona and All
American was the first one on the list

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all the way down in twenty ten. I'm like, am I really that

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old? Yeah? So yeah,
start start to catch up with me.

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So when you played here not too
long ago, what were you thinking?

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And you obviously a bet on yourself
because you had this, you had this

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career here and then you had a
pretty good life in the NFL. Absolutely

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absolutely, I thought, you know, in the NFL, I'm not I

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wish I would have been able to
do more. Obviously that has out of

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my control. You got to go
somewhere where you know, you know,

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everything on lines in place. But
I gave it my all, and uh,

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it was a good career. But
I mean, you of a man,

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that's that's gonna be one of the
most fun times of you know,

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my life. It was a hard
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I had family pulling me one way, family wanted me to go to s

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made that choice for me. I
made that choice for me and I and

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I and I still to this days
tell everybody I made the right choice because

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there was nothing like it. There
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yeah, and and everything, and
it taught me how to just deal with

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to go to the top school because
of their top school. Oh we're gonna

408
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:42.480
play in national championship, don't.
I don't like I don't. That's just

409
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.359
not me. It's never been me, you know. So I wanted to

410
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.200
go to a school where you got
to earn it, you gotta work for

411
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:49.640
it, because that it just makes
it that much better. Right. No,

412
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:55.599
And and you could possibly be considered
part of the foundation because look at

413
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:59.839
where you're at now, at least
with the with the program. How are

414
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.839
you been by or back since Fish
has taken over? And you must liked

415
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:10.400
that He's he's involving all the X
guys. Absolutely, I think coach Fish

416
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.920
is doing a hell of a job. Man. I did go back to

417
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.119
one spring to a spring game,
and that's when it was like I think

418
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:22.839
it was Jetfishes, maybe right right
after the one and eleven season, and

419
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.519
you know, the alumni really wasn't
sure if we were welcome or not.

420
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.000
And I see that more and more
they're starting to see that he's welcome the

421
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:33.319
alumni. And I'm a part of
it happening. But I think everybody who

422
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:34.720
played that U obey is a part
of it. Even the guys like Teddy,

423
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:40.400
Bruce Ki and Lance Brigg, everybody, Uh, you know, Bobby

424
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.680
Wade, these guys, you know, they used to come and talk to

425
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.160
us when we when I was at
u of AA, guys come get on

426
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:51.039
us when we were you know,
letty games like Stanford Slipperwhay, they coming

427
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:52.680
and yelling at us because that's how
much they care about the program. I'm

428
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.000
just more open with it and on
Twitter. But I'm telling you all the

429
00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.559
alumni, they really do care about
the program. So my my handed it

430
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:02.640
is just as much as theirs.
Man. We all we all put the

431
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.680
work in for for this, for
something like this, and Jeff Fish is

432
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:08.519
doing an amazing job. Man.
I hope, he continued, how we

433
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.440
could keep him at Arizona, and
I hope Arizona could become a powerhouse.

434
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.559
Yeah, well they're other way.
This first, this first big year for

435
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:22.759
Arizona in a long time, since
since rich Rod's twenty fourteen year when they

436
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:26.480
you know, were played in the
Festival. Oh, absolutely absolutely, And

437
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.480
rich Rod was a great coach and
that was a great time. And even

438
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:34.839
Stuts had some great, great times
and some great we was I remember Rod

439
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:37.200
came to the game when I was
coming out of high school when they played

440
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.759
Oregon to honestly go play in a
Rose Bowl and it was a close game

441
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:44.279
and they and we were and they
were closed. So there's some There's been

442
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.319
some you know, really special seasons
at u of A. But yeah,

443
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.599
this season, man, it was
I'm proud of all all of them.

444
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.960
I mean because of adversity, the
hard work. I mean, like I

445
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.160
said, we're two overtime, overtime
losses away from being twelve and one.

446
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.160
So and then we played the team
that just a national chance that we played

447
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.759
them all the way to the end
of the game, and and I honestly

448
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.559
think that we would have beat them
if they played in the Pacto tile like

449
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.559
they should have, right, right, So you played for Stoops and rich

450
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.880
Trod? Who are you two?
Two? Yes? Yeah? How was

451
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.680
that? How was that transition?
Because you had two dudes who were probably

452
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:22.160
excitable, you know Stoops on the
sideline, rich Rod just just as excitable.

453
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:23.839
But how was the transition for you? I know, Jake Fisher,

454
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.440
who we have on the show a
lot. Uh, it played for both

455
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:32.799
of them too. Yeah, So
you know, the transition is always I'm

456
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:34.079
not gonna lie, it's always a
little scary because you don't know, you

457
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.279
know, every time a new coach
come in, you think to yourself,

458
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:38.240
you don't want to bring in his
guys, and he man, I liked

459
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.880
us, and and I think for
me it was a little different for me

460
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.160
than the other guys because I actually
had an offer from rich Rod when he

461
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.480
was at Michigan. We could turned
it down to go to U of A.

462
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.240
So when I was I hope you
don't come in like, uh,

463
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.519
yeah, I'm gonna get you back
for that. But you know, rich

464
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.240
Rod was really cool and we talked
about it, and I think the little

465
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.039
difference was there was a little difference
between rich Rod and Stoops. You know,

466
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.400
Stoops obviously committed to stupid love Suit's
way he coached. He was more

467
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.559
defensive minded, he was more pro
style. Rich Rod came in. He's

468
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.240
more offensive mind. And I mean
his offense was a yeah, his offense

469
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.319
was we had to practicet married At
the first thing, he told me,

470
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.119
like, they go fast, and
he says, since we go fast on

471
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.799
offense, y'all gotta be ready to
go fast on defense because y'all need to

472
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.759
play against us. So, I
mean, probably the best shape I I've

473
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.200
been in in my life playing with
rich Rod, And you know, I

474
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.079
learned a lot from that staff and
Stoop's staff too. But yeah, it's

475
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.119
definitely scary when when coaches, but
when new coaches come in, so will.

476
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.799
I don't wish that on nobody,
but it's out of your control.

477
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.599
For the guys that all stayed,
we stayed, we bought in, and

478
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.640
we start having good season. And
I wasn't surprised in twenty fourteen when when

479
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.720
rich Rod and nowm played in the
Fiesta Bowl, because that team was they

480
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.519
worked hard in the off season,
they trained hard to start. The conditioning

481
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:52.559
program was unbelievable and the only thing
I regretted is I should have restrated my

482
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.359
freshman year and I told him would
have been right there with him. And

483
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:57.119
that's a year, right right right? Well yeah, well you see that.

484
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.359
You can kind of look back in
your career. But you had good

485
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.799
NFL. How many years were you
in? Four or five? Six?

486
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.640
Six years? Six years? So
that's not that's nothing to sneeze. I

487
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.000
mean, that's a good life.
Oh no, absolutely absolutely, you know,

488
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.799
the brotherhood. I think the biggest
part of the first year out of

489
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.960
college. You always I'm in I
stayed in contact with all the guys that

490
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.599
you know, the Jordan grand and
uh, you know, Jordan Grant is

491
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.680
her main you know, I knew
school being all them, you know.

492
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:27.400
So when they're playing, I'm watching, I'm texting them like, hey man,

493
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.799
we got you got got this that
so but uh but no, I

494
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:34.680
definitely won't take nothing doubt. I'm
definitely blessed and being able to be a

495
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.240
six round pick and you know,
and make rosters and play for six years.

496
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.640
It is no small feat. Yeah, no questions, did you this

497
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.920
is maybe a dumb question shot because
I should know this. So six year

498
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.480
comes, you finish your sixth year. Do you call your own shot or

499
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.480
does someone say, sorry, you
can't, You're not good enough to play

500
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:59.440
here anymore. I think it's just
a little bit of the NFL. It

501
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.559
was more business now. I call
my own shot. Didn't walk away from

502
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.079
it just because I just me.
I'm a guy. I like to be

503
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:10.640
comfortable. And one thing I hated
was, you know, I'm going out

504
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.400
here and I'm giving it my all. I'm having really good training camps.

505
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.079
It's out of my control. I'm
getting cut for money reasons, reasons,

506
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:19.880
don't even got nothing to do for
football, and then move into a whole

507
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:22.480
new city, a whole new state. For me, it just kind of

508
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.920
got exhausted, and I'm like,
man, I'm missing I got kids.

509
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.359
At the time, I had three
kids, and I'm like, I'm missing

510
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.519
out on my kids. My kids
is growing up fast. So you know

511
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.160
what. Mentally I wasn't right either
met I. Mentally I wasn't right.

512
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.799
After I left the Patriots, I
you know, went into this dark place

513
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.039
where I figured that, you know, I had to be this you know

514
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.640
person that I'm really not. Man, I had to be this asshole person,

515
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:49.319
and I just didn't like what I
was becoming, so I had to

516
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:53.960
walk away from it, and but
I gave it my off, and I

517
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:56.599
had some really good training because I
played for some really good coaches. I

518
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.480
learned a lot and I'll never forget
the two ian seventeen season with the Patriots.

519
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.480
I mean, that was probably my
funest year because Bill Belichick came and

520
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.920
got me from Cincinnati and let me
and he used my athletic ability, right,

521
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:12.160
you know, And and that's when
I have the best seasons. You

522
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.400
know, same thing Jessica still did
and rich Rod. I got in extreme

523
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.519
shape and that's why I was able
to play at a high level that year.

524
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:22.839
But I think it's just, you
know, once your contract years up

525
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.839
and it really becomes a business.
Yeah, no question, no question.

526
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.839
And I wasn't ready for that.
Far a lot of pressure. So you

527
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.279
you you were teammates with Gronk for
a couple of years. Yeah. I

528
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.000
was teamates with Gronk for one year. And it was actually cool because when

529
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.839
I came into Arizona, Gronk actually
left, and then when I was in

530
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.240
the locker room when they traded for
me in New England, Gronk actually stopped

531
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:45.720
to talk to me. So we
really didn't know each other beside. He

532
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.559
was like, hey man, you
went to U of A. He was

533
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.319
He was always say, I never
played with a u of AA wildcat on

534
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:52.759
the roster. He I couldn't wait
to play with the u of BA Wildcat.

535
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.279
Yeah, so Gronk was really cool. You know, played with him

536
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.920
that year. Practice with him,
went all the way to the Super Bowl,

537
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.000
you know, came up short,
but it was it was a good

538
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.039
year. I told Bronk, tell
Phil, does they need more U of

539
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.119
A guys on the roster? Every
time they got a U of A guy

540
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.799
on they go to the Super Bowl? Right right right? Well, him

541
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.640
and Fisher pretty good friends. So
so how was it playing for Belchick?

542
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:15.640
I mean it was great. It
was great. I mean he's talking about

543
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.359
one of the not even one of
the in my opinion, the greatest coach

544
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.599
Min's were in the game. The
way he understands football, the way he

545
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.279
simplifies it for the players. I
learned so much from from Coach Belichick,

546
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:31.240
and that was another reason why I
I was definitely able to have success that

547
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:36.440
season or helped that and help help
the team, you know, get all

548
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.079
the way to the Super Bowl.
Obviously, you got the great Tom Brady

549
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:42.119
on the other side, but Belichick, he stayed on us, and the

550
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.240
leadership on that team was unbelievable.
I learned a lot. I think I

551
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.519
grow to the player life from that
one year. You know, I knew

552
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.799
I learned a lot, and I
knew I got a lot better because after

553
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.480
that I went to Detroy. I
wasn't, you know, right Mintal.

554
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.599
I told the trait to let me
go. But when I went to the

555
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.200
Redskins and had that training camp with
the Redskins, I mean I was It

556
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.680
was one of my best training camps. Guys couldn't block me. So I

557
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.519
learned a lot from the Patriots and
I had to I had to give them

558
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:07.599
that. I didn't realize how much
I learned from them in the game of

559
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:09.280
football. But yeah, I was
out there making, making and causing a

560
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.960
lot of problems. So for someone
who wasn't supposed to be doing that,

561
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.599
I was out there making a lot
of plays. Right, So we got

562
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.159
about a minute left here. What
are you doing now? What's up to

563
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.599
you? Besides being a crazy Twitter
guy? Crazy Twitter guy? Just working

564
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.920
on myself, working on myself.
Man, when you play football for twenty

565
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.320
years, there's some stuff that doesn't
really fit well in the road where I'm

566
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:32.039
still transitioning and still trying to work
on myself and you know, just become

567
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:37.360
a better husband, better father.
I got some projects I'm trying to start,

568
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.159
like a little Peril backpack. I
wanted to start at u Obey,

569
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.440
So we'll see if that kicks up. But right now, more mostly just

570
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.440
working on myself and trying to try
to become a better, better person and

571
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.559
keep growing and keep with suing.
Well, very nice, Well, good

572
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.320
luck to you. I appreciate you
coming on the show. We probably call

573
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.880
you every now and again when he
gets hot and heavy next year in football,

574
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:58.960
Oh yeah, call me when it
gets out of heavy. Yeah,

575
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:00.639
you know, I'm gonna have some
hot takes for you and some that's we

576
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.760
welcome. Good stuff folks there down
and thank you for having me on the

577
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.440
show. R that's my guy man. Call me Jake Fisher on the show.

578
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.760
We got some good stories for you. Okay, great, will thank

579
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:15.159
you every Friday. Thank you,
Buch. Marquis, take care. Marquis

580
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:19.679
Flowers, former UO a football player. Pretty honest dude, pretty straightforward,

581
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.800
authentic. Yeah yeah, yeah,
which is cool, Which is great for

582
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:24.599
the show. Okay, let's take
a quick break here and come back.

583
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.360
I'm glad we got him on the
phone. Yeah, that was a little

584
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.760
bit weird if you have some struggles
gettinghim on the phone. Yeah, okay,

585
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:47.360
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622
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fourteen to fifteen. Hey, welcome
back to I'm ball here on Fox Sports

623
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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roberta.
He's Kevin Thomas. How go to?

624
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.239
Said Jake as Low as pro g
Jay is out today not feeling well,

625
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:44.760
so he just take a day off. Hopefully he'll be back tomorrow. But

626
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.639
we're gonna talk more about UA football
and the future of UA football. It

627
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.760
was great to have Marquise on though, to talk about his life and what's

628
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.599
going on with him. Looks like
he's trying to get something straight. Thank

629
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.000
you for coming on. So let's
go with the top ten. Yeah,

630
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:04.280
top ten. Was anybody else in
the top twenty anything interesting? I didn't

631
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.840
go that far. I didn't go
that deepest interesting like new additions to the

632
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:13.079
rankings. I thought Kansas Washington's eleven. Yeah, That's why I was gonna

633
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.960
say. Washington being eleven was kind
of interesting. Kansas and Kansas State both

634
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.199
being ranked interesting. Utah is thirteen, and I know that Jay and I

635
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.599
talked about this, have talked about
it a few times now that they're going

636
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.000
to the Big twelve, that Utah
could be the favorite to win it all

637
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:31.000
next year with the cam Raising returning. But nationally or at least, people

638
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:36.920
are thinking that Arizona might even be
higher than that because there are nine Utah's

639
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:38.920
thirteen. Yeah, and Utah is
losing a lot of players as well,

640
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:45.039
Yeah, during this offseason. So
they're thirteen, Oklahoma's fifteen, Florida State

641
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:52.320
sixteen, Oklahoma State eighteen, they're
in that league too. Obviously. Let's

642
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:58.880
see who else isn't it Kansas State
twenty one, Louisville, Kansas twenty three.

643
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.119
Uh, okay a Kansas twenty three. Uh? And so you know,

644
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.400
you don't everyzon has to be a
chance to winning the title in that

645
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.159
league. They do it should it
should be actually a more interesting league than

646
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:13.400
I think we at first might think. Yeah, right, so go ahead

647
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.880
and do what you're gonna do with
a top ten and then uh or or

648
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.800
nine down? All right? So
starting at number ten, we have the

649
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.719
Notre Dame fighting Irish, which I
think is interesting. That team could be

650
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.079
good again next year. I know
they're losing offensive lineman Joe Alts to the

651
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.239
NFL draft, uh, Sam Hartman, Audric estime h players like that.

652
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.119
But I mean they add Riley Leonard. They really I don't know if they're

653
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.480
gonna try to shore up that that
hole that Joe alt leaves. But I

654
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.880
think Riley Leonard is a good enough
quarterback to help Notre Dame kind of stay

655
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.559
where they are. And uh,
yeah, it's not a bad that's not

656
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:46.360
a bad ten pick. Now number
nine we know is the Arizona Wildcats.

657
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:51.159
We do keep Fafita and McMillan,
which I think is the main right,

658
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.599
Yeah, without question, the mak
the main point here. We do lose

659
00:40:53.719 --> 00:41:00.320
Jordan Morgan, Cowing, Wiley,
McLaughlan, Manoa, and Upshaw, So

660
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.480
we do lose some key players,
but I think keeping our quarterback and wide

661
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:07.719
receiver duo intact just and the way
that we've been recruiting really just gives us

662
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.599
opportunity to continue our growth in the
next year. I actually think we could

663
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:15.639
be ranked one higher because the next
team is the Missouri Tigers, which we've

664
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:20.119
already talked about a little bit.
They also look promising coming into next year,

665
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:24.639
but they also lose their defensive coordinator
to LSU, and they lose theirer

666
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:28.639
with the number one rusher in the
country outside of Blake korn Is, Cody

667
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.760
Schrader. They lose him as well
and a couple of other key players for

668
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.199
their defense. So their defense might
not look the same, their offense might

669
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.400
not look the same. We're gonna
have to see how they bounce back next

670
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:45.800
year. All miss at number seven, Yeah, they're always you don't know.

671
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.400
With Lane Kiffin there, you just
don't know how good they're gonna be.

672
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.719
Could be very good, exciting or
not. Yeah, and a bad

673
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.000
year would be like three four losses, which is not a bad thing.

674
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.440
But with him, you just don't
know what you're gonna get. It's different

675
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.480
than the sec. A isn't offensively
right. Offensively, he's a dynamite.

676
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.679
Defensively, you know, sometimes not
so much. I thought this was interesting.

677
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:13.440
Number six is the defending national champion
Michigan Wolverines. They lose a ton

678
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:17.480
of players, starting quarterback JJ McCarthy. They could lose both running backs Corn

679
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.039
and Edwards, as well as Zach
Ziner, who broke his leg I believe

680
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:29.440
in that Ohio State game, as
well as Roman Wilson and Mike saint Istril.

681
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.920
So a ton of big play guys
Michigan is losing. They also might

682
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.760
lose their head coach. Still undecided
on that. Some say he's surely doing

683
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:42.840
one thing or the other. We
don't know yet. But they are behind

684
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:46.960
their rival Ohio State, who is
ranked number five. But they lose Marvin

685
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.719
Harrison and Kyle McCord, but they
add Will Howard. What do you think

686
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.679
about Ohio State being ranked above Michigan. Well, because the coach has to

687
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:59.960
kind of finally come through for years. You know that when you were young

688
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:04.840
man, Michigan couldn't beat Ohio State
for a long time until I was slightly

689
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.400
older. Yeah, well a couple
of years ago, right, Yeah,

690
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.679
And now they've kind of dominated that
series here. So that's how would they

691
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:14.360
become who they become. They finally
booked through that and now they're playing in

692
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.960
the International Championship Game. And last
year they could have won too. They

693
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.320
lost the playoffs right a semi final
game. Yeah. Yeah. Number four

694
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.679
Alabama Crimson Tide who went twelve and
two and eight to zero in the SEC

695
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:32.320
West this season. They lose some
players like Cooley McKinstry, Terry On Arnold,

696
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.880
and Dallas Turner, but they do
pick up some decent transfer and recruit

697
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:44.760
players Alabama always does. Oregon another
former Pac twelve team coming in in the

698
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.880
top three, and I think this
is this They're they're where they're at top

699
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.800
three for one reason. It's the
quarterback. They got a good quarterback in

700
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:58.039
the Oklahoma kid Who's who? Gabriel
who decided to go right there right away

701
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.199
after knowing that their quarterback was gonna
be gone, and you found himself in

702
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:06.360
a great spot and we'll see what
happens. Tom Organs. Organ's always good,

703
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.000
I should say always, but they're
consistently good. Yeah. Organ always

704
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.239
gets gets good recruits and good I
mean now good transfers. I'm sure though.

705
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.639
Yeah. And and the coach is
a good I think he's a pretty

706
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.079
good coach. He's a fiery dude, but not in a bad way.

707
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.679
Yeah. Did you see they had
him won the national championship? Yeah,

708
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.280
halftime. I thought that's what I
didn't. I watched it and I saw

709
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.920
I didn't hear him talk a bunch. They pretty much just asking him about,

710
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.639
you know, his experience playing against
Washington. He thinks each team should

711
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.880
do and he's probably saying, how
come that they couldn't have played like that

712
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.440
against me? I think he didn't
mention something. I don't want to misquote

713
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:42.360
him, but I think that was
thrown out there. Number two Texas Longhorns

714
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:47.800
with a quarterback, Yeah, with
Archie Manning and Quinn Yours because Queen you

715
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:52.840
wereers, he's staying right. Apparently
he's undecided. We don't know if he's

716
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.920
going coming or going Okay, so
that's that probably weighs into it. And

717
00:44:55.960 --> 00:45:00.639
then number one Georgia again, Yeah, as usual as usual, So I

718
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:06.360
mean, not too too many surprises
in that list. There's interesting storylines for

719
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.239
sure, Arizona Missouri probably being the
two biggest ones. The biggest storylines,

720
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.519
I mean, I think, I
do think Michigan is still the biggest only

721
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.559
because they're the national champion and their
head coach might not come back. Sure,

722
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:20.119
so I think until that's resolved,
and coaching matters. If there's anything

723
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.400
that I realized in this job,
coaching matters. I mean, you could

724
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.280
have a good team, but if
your coach is not very good, your

725
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.079
team's not gonna be very good because
they have to play for a guy that's

726
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:34.519
that they respect that they're not that
not that they fear the guy, but

727
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.800
they play hard for the guy.
I want to make them proud or want

728
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.400
to do execute what they've been practicing
on right right, Because if you have

729
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:45.480
a dude who's who's a good guy, Uh can you know he's good to

730
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.079
the media, sometimes they don't play
hard for him because they don't think they

731
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:51.440
have to, and then you have
a mediocre team. I was I forget

732
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.039
where I heard it, but they
were talking about the similarity between the Harballs

733
00:45:54.360 --> 00:46:00.159
and Pete Carroll. As you know
Super Bowl the National Champion winners. I

734
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.960
know Harbor didn't win it, but
he was close. And they were talking

735
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.079
about how you have to be a
special kind of coach to connect with both

736
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.599
thirty six year old right and eighteen
year old no question. And I think

737
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.760
that's kind of what we're touching on, is like the ability to not only

738
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.000
coach, but connect and motivate.
Because once you're in the league, I

739
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.280
feel like motivation gets different. But
it's now your job, so you show

740
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.440
up and do your job, no
question, But motivating eighteen to twenty year

741
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.400
olds is totally different. Well that
no, remember back in just four years

742
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.760
ago. Now you have kids who
are getting paid, who are getting paid.

743
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.280
Now, that's a different dynamic.
You know, I've said this to

744
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.800
a couple of coaches, how do
you how do you connect with the player

745
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.000
that's getting paid to fifty five five
hundred thousand if not more? And they're

746
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.559
gonna say to you in their mind, maybe they won't say directly, shut

747
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.039
the hell up. I mean,
don't tell me how to play. I'm

748
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.960
here. They're paying me this money
for a reason. Well, and you

749
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:57.320
say that, And I was thinking
for a long time students and student athletes

750
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.559
that grew up like I want to
go to this school. Yeah, because

751
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.719
that's my school. I love that
logo, whether it's you know, the

752
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.800
block A, the block M,
whatever, it is, the Tiger whatever.

753
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:07.920
But now, if you're getting paid
to go somewhere, you don't necessarily

754
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:12.639
have that built in desire to be
there. No, there's not a loyalty

755
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.800
something great out of that school.
There's not a loyalty. It's my You

756
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:21.639
can't say we're we might get the
bag. I was. I was talking

757
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:22.639
to one of my friends about and
he said the same thing, how there's

758
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.880
no loyalty in college football anymore.
And I said, I think the loyalty

759
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.800
is shifting. I think players have
less loyalty to their schools, but they

760
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:34.079
should be more loyal to themselves.
You're talking about actually Dorian Singer because he's

761
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.079
in the portal, And I was
saying, in my opinion, student athletes

762
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.360
should be more loyal to themselves and
give themselves a chance of stability by staying

763
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.920
somewhere at least two years. Okay, it's hard to grow at any job

764
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.559
if you're moving company to company every
sure, sure, but I also think

765
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:52.440
that and this is not a remedy
for this. That people need to find

766
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.280
their levels of success, if that
makes any sense. And maybe you're not

767
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.760
Arizona good, but you're an A
good or a Issue good or whomever good

768
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:06.760
in New Mexico good, Oregon stay
good. Uh, you know what I'm

769
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.679
saying. And you're trying to find
your level. I think Singer Singer is

770
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:15.559
Arizona good without question? Is he
USC good? We don't know. At

771
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.039
least he didn't get a chance to
be. Maybe he is and he just

772
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.159
didn't get a chance, or there
are other dudes ahead of him that were

773
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.079
better. Does it make sense and
he didn't get a chance, Well,

774
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.440
the problem is you. You took
that chance and it didn't work out.

775
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:34.599
So now is he between USC and
Arizona or is he going to go somewhere

776
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.199
in between or at the same level? Does that mean it totally? Does?

777
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.800
I mean not to make a fighting
reference out of it, but you

778
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.360
gotta find your weight class. We'll
gotta fight. And that's a good way

779
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:47.480
to put it right. You're you
know whatever, you should be at middleweight

780
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:51.679
or whatever. You just got to
find your level. And yeah, no,

781
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:52.960
I like that analogy. It's a
good analogy. But I think I

782
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:58.039
think a lot of students, instead
of finding their best fit, I think

783
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.599
some of them are looking for the
best team, are the best that they

784
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:05.880
can go for? Yeah, which
is not well. Marquis talked about that,

785
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.760
you know, going somewhere else,
uh, having being pulled one way,

786
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:12.559
but he wanted to come here to
kind of build something where he didn't

787
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.039
go somewhere usc you know, damn, I think you said to deal with

788
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:19.800
that instead he came here. YEA
more power to him. I mean,

789
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.639
that's the whole fit. The one
thing. I also realized that students are

790
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.480
going for the education, are they
No? I mean some some are,

791
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:31.960
some are. Okay, So the
hundred one hundred got one hundred football players,

792
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.280
how many are going for an act
like just to get a degree?

793
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:42.039
Yes, I think I think like
sixty sixty percent. No, not like

794
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.559
I think on any one team sixty
percent. You're not giving you under that's

795
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.880
true that actually you're not graduating with
a meth degree again the right words.

796
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.079
I don't don't count numbers, but
yeah, I know I think about sixty

797
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.960
percent cause I think I think a
lot of guys by like their third year.

798
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.880
No, can I go league can
I not go lea Do you think

799
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.920
so? Yes, that's that's by
the third year. I mean, we're

800
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:06.639
talking about every school in the country. We're not talking about just true true,

801
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:07.719
But let's not talk about every school. Let's talk about the top,

802
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:13.039
the top twenty five. Those dudes
think that can play. And the percentage

803
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.800
drops, the percentage drops a lot, maybe like forty. Yeah, okay,

804
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:17.440
I'll give you that. I'll give
you that. Yeah, because I

805
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.000
think a lot of guys go and
they promise their family hadn't get a degree,

806
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.480
or they realize this is not gonna
be my paycheck. Sure, I

807
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:29.039
need to become a physical therapist,
Sure to study astronomy or whatever. The

808
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:30.519
real world Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When did the

809
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.960
real world hit you? It is? Well, we'll see, we'll see.

810
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:37.400
Well, I might be hearing a
couple of months, like you know

811
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:40.239
what am I gonna do? Yeah? Right, That's why I tell you

812
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.159
to start early. Start. I
just started to go. To be fair,

813
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I did start. We're not gonna
go on that, but I did

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start. But what do you think
the percentage will be? Le's Like you

815
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said, forty, that's just level
forty because they're all trying to be that

816
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guy. Hey. In basketball,
it's even more. Yes, in basketball,

817
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it's dramatically because you know, you
come to school like this, do

818
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you think, what do you think
I can play in the league? I

819
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mean, I remember some guys that
I covered back in the day that had

820
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no chance, no chance. They
playing a lot, but still had no

821
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chance either size or or ability or
attitude or whatever. And it's not just

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one. Other thing with basketball is
the outside impact one player can have,

823
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not only in their own opinion,
but in the fan base's opinion. How

824
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many players, you know, not
in any many names, but how many

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players in Arizona history have fans been
like, oh, that guy's that guy's

826
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a good basketball NBA guy And in
reality they don't cut it. There the

827
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variety of reasons, so they're kind
of being fed this weird ecosystem of opinions.

828
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.480
Right, well, think about Pacific. The thing about it with that

829
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is people don't understand there's there's what
thirty some teams TOI and there's how many

830
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schools And you watch the NBA,
right, yeah, how many dudes did

831
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you do you know, didn't have
a name in college that are playing now

832
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.000
a ton Ton and you're thinking,
how did he make the league and this

833
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:59.159
othering didn't make the league? Yeah, it happens. All the intangibles,

834
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right right, right, Okay,
we gotta take a break here, come

835
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back and the other side. Do
you have a breaking news? Yes?

836
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I do, Okay, cool,
I don't believe it, just wh