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Welcome to Dodger Talk. David Vasse with

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you until eight o'clock tonight here on
AM five to seventy LA Sports. And

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a disappointing start to this series for
the Dodgers, as the Phillies routed the

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Dodgers tonight in Philadelphia ten to one. The final score eight six six nine

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eight seven two five seventy is the
phone number. We have two lines open.

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Obviously a lot of disappointed Dodger fans
out there, and look, I'm

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not going to downplay the excitement for
this series. Similar to the three games

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in New York against the Yankees.
You would get excited over this series.

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And certainly if the Dodgers would have
won tonight, I would have come on

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and I would have said, big
statement win for the Dodgers going into Philadelphia,

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beating the Phillies, the best team
in the National League. So I'm

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not gonna come here tonight and say
no big deal. I mean, come

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on, it means absolutely nothing,
right, it's all about October. I'm

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not going to do that, even
though I kind of want to, even

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though that's the rational thing to say, that's not the way you feel.

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And look, that's not the performance
you want out of the Dodgers, who

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are supposed to be the best team
in Major League Baseball. I think many

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of you just focus on the Dodgers
and don't really watch other teams play as

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much as I do, and a
lot more than others do. And you

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can get caught up in the Dodger
bubble. And then you see a team

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like the Phillies and you realize,
uh oh, they might be better better

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than us. And right now the
Phillies are playing better than the Dodgers.

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And right now the Phillies have a
better starting pitching staff than the Dodgers do.

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That's the issue here. Offense,
Yeah, it comes and goes more

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nights than others. The Dodgers are
one of the best teams in the National

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League record wise, because they do
score runs, they do hit home runs,

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but it's not there every night.
What you need is starting pitching.

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And when the Dodgers, I know, everybody looks at Otani and Mookie and

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Freddy and all that. The reason
why the Dodgers are where they are right

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now is because of their pitching,
and more specifically they're starting pitching, especially

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the first two and a half months
of the season. Now recently they've sustained

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some pretty big injuries. They lost
Bobby Miller for a month. They've lost

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Yoshi Yamamoto until August at the earliest. Tyler Glass Now was placed on the

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il earlier today with some back tightness, so he's not going to pitch before

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the All Star break. So right
now, the Dodgers are a wounded animal,

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and the Phillies took advantage of it. But the reason why the Dodgers

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have fifty five wins is because of
their pitching just as much as it is

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about their offense. And frankly,
the last ten games for the Dodgers,

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their starters just have not been good. And when they're not good, they

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put a lot more stress on their
bullpen, which is not good either.

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You don't want to have to see
Keik Hernandez pitching in the seventh inning of

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a game with two outs. You
don't want to see that. You don't

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want to see Johann Ramirez in a
game over and over again in the fifth

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inning. And you look back at
these last ten games for the Dodgers starters,

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it's been abysmal. Forty five runs
allowed in their last forty four innings.

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As the Great Stu Lance would say, that won't get it done on

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the Dodgers audio network. That will
not get it done for the Dodgers.

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And that's the biggest issue. And
even more concerning is Bobby Miller. Is

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he still hurt? I don't believe
so. Is he chasing velocity? I've

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been told that, and he should
stop doing it. He should be throwing

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that two seam fastball aka sinker,
down in the strike zone, down and

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away from right handed hitters. That's
his bread and butter pitch. It's not

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trying to throw one hundred miles an
hour, which by the way, hasn't

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happened since he came back off the
IL. And if it has happened,

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it happened once tonight. He threw
his hardest pitch at ninety seven point seven

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miles an hour. Stop chasing it. It's good enough. But you know,

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I heard Oral Herscheizer say this,
and it really resonated with me,

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and I wish that Bobby Miller would
have heard it, and hopefully Orl Herscheizer

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can get this message to Bobby Miller. When Orl Hersheiser was a pitcher and

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you had Don Drysdale, Johnny Padres, and Sandy Koefax as instructors and being

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around the team, they were teachers
as well, and Oral Hersheiser said on

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Sunday when Mookie Betts was in the
booth. As a pitcher, you don't

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try to make a better pitch than
your last one. You try to make

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that same pitch. And when you
try to make the next pitch even better

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or even greater, or throw it
even harder, that's where the margin of

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error starts to get greater, because
you can't make the perfect pitch. To

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be a consistent pitcher, you have
to consistently make your best pitch, you

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don't try to make it even better. And I feel like that's what Bobby

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Miller is doing. And in his
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Bobby Miller has given up nineteen earned
runs in seventeen innings. Let's head

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back to Philadelphia right now to hear
from Bobby Ice and what's going on with

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him lately. What's been missing though, is his four starts in now,

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since you came back, I haven't
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Feel I explained that, Yeah,
I've been getting into two counts,

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not putting away guys fast. You
know. Obviously Vlosi is a little down

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too, but uh yeah, just
stuff just doesn't have as much bite to

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it right now. I'm just not
putting the guys, putting guys away fast.

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When I get deep into account and
I'm slot of three ball counts,

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a lot of walks, just everything
I'll put together. But I may get

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back to where I need to be. I know that for sure the stuff

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isn't it is have the same bite. The velocity is down. Why is

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that? I couldn't tell you.
I'm trying everything I can. You know,

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the shoulders strong right now. Done
testing on that. My shoulder is

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really strong right now. So it's
probably just mechanics, just a little bit

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of everything. So yeah, I'm
just still trying to figure that out.

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All right. There's Bobby Miller,
and I like the anger in the tone

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of his voice. That's as angry
as you will hear Bobby Miller. He's

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going to be respectful, obviously,
but he was not happy, not happy

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with himself, not happy with the
line of questioning because he is not performing

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up to his standards. And you
know when you ask him what's going on

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and he talks about mechanics and he
doesn't really have an answer. It's really

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simple. I believe it goes back
to what Oral Herscheizer said and what Sandy

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Kofax used to teach. Don't try
to make a better pitch than the last

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one, make that same pitch.
And it feels like Bobby is chasing right

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now. Eight sixty six nine eight
seven two five seventy is the phone number.

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Dodgers fall to the Phillies tonight,
ten to one. Let's go out

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to the Palisades, Ronnie lead us
off on Dodger Talk tonight, Ronnie,

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where are you all right? Ronnie? Regroup? That's not a great way

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to lead us off. Let's go
out to Fresno. I know I can

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always count on Jeff and Fresno.
What's up, Jeff? Hey, Dave,

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so listen. I don't care if
we would have lost thirty to one

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tonight, I really honestly don't,
because in twenty twenty when we won it

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all, I don't remember any regular
season game. I remember the last out

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of the World Series. My issue
is is that glass Now Saturday, before

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he pitched, Dave Roberts said he
had tightness in his back last couple starts

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before that was not good. Clearly
something was going on, and we pushed

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him and we paid the price.
And now he's out, and so now

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we are going to be making deals
in a position of weakness. We've already

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made an offer for Crochet wasn't accepted. Do you think the White Sox are

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going to want even more now that
glass Now's hurt? Of course they are.

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Last night you talked about giving I
can't eaven his name right now from

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the Rangers. Nathan Evaldi. Nathan
Evaldi, Thank you. Nathan Evaldi would

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be perfect. Here's another name of
someone we can get, Tyler Anderson.

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They worked as magic with him a
couple of years ago when it was the

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Dodgers having a great year. He's
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Crochet. If we get Crouchet,
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getting a guy who's pitching more than
he's ever pitched before, and he'll be

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watching from the bench in October on
the sixty day as out. We got

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to get away from these guys.
Nathan Nevaldi, Tyler Anderson, come on

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down, all right, Jeff.
I feel like those are two different categories

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of pitchers. Tyler Glass now is
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Dodgers. Is he really a guy
that you want to put your playoff hands

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into? He pitched kind of well
against the Padres in the NLDS. Maybe

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was taken out a little bit too
soon, But to me, if it's

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not Garrett Crochet, it must be
Nathan Valdi. And I also made the

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case last night that I would choose
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Avaldi's a two time World Series champion. Teammates and opponents have each told

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me that if there was a Game
seven of a World Series or any playoff

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series, they would give the ball
to Nathan Evaldi. That's who the Dodgers

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need, that type of guy.
Eight six, six, nine eighty seven,

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two five seventy is the phone number. Let's go out to Javier in

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La. You're on Dodger Talk.
Hi, Javier, Hey Dave, how

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are you? I've been better?
I didn't like seeing the Dodgers lose that

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way to a team they might see
in the postseason. Well, that's two

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of us, Mike. Guess my
question is are we going to pay a

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real high pamium tax for any type
of pictures they're going to try to go

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again? Right now? Javier,
I've heard I've heard people say there is

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a Dodger tax. Teams are going
to ask for more from the Dodgers than

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any other team because they're the Dodgers. And number two, they have a

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wealth of talent or supposed talent in
the minor leagues. If it's a supposed

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of talent, why have we called
anybody up? Do you see any eyes

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on them? Didn't you just see
Justin didn't you just see Justin Robleski on

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Sunday? Yeah it wasn't too pretty
either. Well, I mean it wasn't.

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I wouldn't say that, but yeah, they have depth, They have

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guys to call up. And don't
you remember Andy Pajs from earlier this year?

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How many teams have Andy pas that
they could call up? Well,

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not a lot, but I guess
I can sneak in a real quick question.

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We have the four we have fore
arms right now, and that we

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were like on the just to get
through. Gavin Stone packs in and next,

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I mean, who else do we
have just named him? He just

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named him? And we sound like
the Giants right now where we're gonna have

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to do stop? Do you know
where the Giants are? They're forty four

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and forty seven, ten and a
half games out. The Dodgers are not

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going to have to do that because
they just called up a young starter,

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so they're not going to the bullpen
game every other start sounding like you were

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just trying to needle me. That's
not going to happen. But you are

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right about the Dodgers' staff right now. You got Yamamoto on the IL,

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who just got paid the richest contract
of any major league pitcher in the history

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of the game, and who knows
when he's coming back. You got Tyler

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Glass now on the IL with some
backstuff, and look, I don't really

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believe this back issue is going to
keep Glass now out that long. It

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feels like there was something there and
the Dodgers decided, you know what,

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all Star break coming, how about
we just scrap one more start. You

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give that back a little extra time
to rest. There's no skin off our

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back because there's no games and you
come back in the second half of the

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season and we roll from there.
Clayton Kershaw is making a rehab start on

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Saturday in Oklahoma City, but he's
not a guy that you can count on.

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Who knows, who knows how that
shoulder is going to respond. And

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Walker Buehler, I mean, everybody
was acting like Walker Buehler was going to

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pick up where he left off in
twenty twenty. That was not the way

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it went down, and I'm not
sure how much you can count on him.

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That's the reason why the Dodgers are
focused on getting another starting pitcher,

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and not a fringe starting pitcher.
They're focused on getting a starter that can

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help them pitch Game two, Game
three, that type of caliber starter.

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Nathan Ivaldi is that guy. Eight
six six nine eight seven two five seventy

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is the phone number. Not to
mention the starters on the IL. How

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about the relievers on the IL.
Joe Kelly has barely pitched this year,

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Ryan Brazier has barely pitched this year, and Kyle Hurt was supposed to be

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a young guy coming out of the
bullpen. He left his minor league appearance

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a couple of weeks ago with the
arm injury as well. So the Dodgers

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have a lot of pitching injuries and
they're still in first place in the NL

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West. Let's go back out to
the phones. Pallo in San Diego.

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You're on Dodger Talk. How you
doing, pollow Hi, David, listen.

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I don't mind losing. It's just
how you lose. I sent you

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a text master earlier, and I
did really did not appreciate, you know,

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Dave Robert removing Freeman, TiO Hernandez
and Choyotani after four innings. Just

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you know, you know what much
I disliked the you know San Diego Pathers

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on April the eight, the San
Diego Pathers Trail de Cobbies eight or nhe

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they went out to win nine to
eight. All right, I mean,

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losing is one thing. It's just
how you lose. How do you remove

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your best one, two, three
punch? You know, after four innings

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It's like you raised the wet you
know, the white flags said okay,

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this this game is you said yourself
on the Pregium Show. This game was

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already lost. Come on, David, after four innings, it was they

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weren't coming back against the Phillies.
The Cubs are in last place in the

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NL Central. But I understand what
you're saying. It's not great optics to

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take those players out in the fourth
inning. Maybe try to get them one

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more at bat, Maybe take them
out in the sixth inning. But look,

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you're in beautiful San Diego, Poolo. It's hot, it's humid in

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Philadelphia, and the Dodgers still have
two more games over there. But I

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understand what you're saying. Fourth inning
maybe a little bit too early, but

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let's be realistic. The Dodgers were
not coming back. This was not course

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field where they scored seven runs in
the ninth inning. That wasn't going to

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happen. Come on, David,
we have first and second numbery. I'm

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realistic, Poolo, I'm just being
realist. Sick. I'm sorry, David.

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All right, Paulo, thanks for
the phone call. Eight sixty six

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nine eighty seven two five seventy is
the phone number. We're gonna take a

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time out here on Dodger Talk when
we come back. More of your phone

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calls at eight sixty six nine eighty
seven two five seventy. We have a

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full border calls. If the Dodgers
win tomorrow, we better have a full

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border calls as well. This is
not a trend. I like you only

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call when they lose. That ain't
right. Phillies beat the Dodgers ten to

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one on a five to seventy LA
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more Dodger Talk with Dodger insider David
Basse comes the next offer. It's swung

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on well, hit to right,
going back as castianos, He's to the

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wall, It's gone, this's you
old a home run and the Dodgers get

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on the board. It's nine to
one. Third home run of the season

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and first as a Dodger for Calvin
Biggio. Calvin Vigio home run in the

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fifth inning that made it nine to
one. The comeback was on, according

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to Polo and San Diego. The
Phillies go on to beat the Dodgers tonight

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by a final score of ten to
one, Game one of this three game

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series. This is a six game
road trip for the Dodgers, two more

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in Philadelphia and then three in Detroit. Before the All Star break. Did

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I mention that former Dodger Trey Turner
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He was three for four tonight with
the backbreaking grand Slam, part of a

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six run fourth inning for the Phillies. So Trey Turner comes back to haunt

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David Vaz say with you until eight
o'clock here on Dodger Talk. I mentioned

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Trey Turner came back to beat the
Dodgers tonight. It's true. He came

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up with the biggest hit of the
game. Even though Bobby Miller does not

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want to acknowledge the fact that his
ninety two mile an hour exit v low

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and three hundred and fifty six estimated
distance was not worthy enough of a Grand

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Slam, but it was. It
was a grand slam. It went over

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the wall in left field in that
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But you know what Bobby Miller should
be more upset about is allowing the seven

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eight to nine hitters to do as
much damage against him as they did tonight.

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You look at what they did against
Bobby Miller. In the first four

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innings, they faced him twice.
Brandon marsh had a walk and a single

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and a stolen bass against him.
Marshan the catcher, was on base twice.

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He had a single and a double
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two singles, a wild pitch,
and a stolen bass. They scored

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six runs when Bobby Miller was on
the mound tonight. The seven eight nine

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hitters scored six of the nine runs
charged to Bobby Miller. Think about that.

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As much as we have talked about
the Dodgers seven eight nine hitters and

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how they really haven't done much,
you got a taste of what life is

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like when those seven eight nine hitters
set the table for the Phillies Big three

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Schwarber, Turner, Harper, Boehm. The seven eight nine hitters for the

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Phillies tonight were it combined seven for
nine with a double, three RBIs,

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two stolen bases, and they scored
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were two for eleven. One of
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run by Calvin Bigio another the second
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in the eighth inning. So basically
they did absolutely nothing. Eight six six

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nine eighty seven two five seventy is
the phone number. Let's go out to

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Whittier, Tony. You're on Dodger
Talk. How you doing, Tony?

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All right, Dave? How's it
going? Yeah? You know, yeah,

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I just want to I just want
to talk about how how fans,

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especially on Twitter, I've already seen
that's DSA, probably Miller the DFA.

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Are they crazy? That's release toxic
fan? I know, I know,

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I tell me about it. I
just think fantas to relax. It's only

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one game, and I was telling
myself, if the Dodgers route the next

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two games, you're just gonna see
how everybody's gonna flip and everybody's gonna call

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and they're gonna say we're back.
It's on again. I just I just

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want to time in on that.
I just think he's really toxic against really

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silly that these fans say that.
All right, Tony on a sprint,

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Thanks for the phone call, I
appreciate it. Let's see where everybody's at

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if the Dodgers get a crack at
the Phillies in October and uh, let's

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not forget the next big series is
when the Phillies come to LA in August,

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So that will be just as big
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So every series can be big.
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it's about taking care of yourself.
And what's more concerning or equally as

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concerning as losing ten to one to
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are and where they're going right now
it's not going well. And even more

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concerning is Bobby Miller. How is
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he going to come to the realization
that he can't try to top the previous

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pitch with the next pitch, He
can't try to throw the best pitch ever

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every time he throws the baseball.
Once he realizes that, I feel like

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he'll take off and never look back. Let's go out to San Pedro.

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Chris, you're on Dodger Talk.
How you doing, Chris doing well?

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Dave? I'll keep this short,
and by the way, you took one

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of the points that I was going
to talk about the seven eight nine for

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the Phillies. They changed the whole
game tonight. They set the table for

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Shorter, a two run single,
and then of course the grand slam by

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by Trey Turner. I wanted to
call out actually the training staffs for not

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just the Dodger in the Major league
department, but also the minor leagues because

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listen, injuries are a part of
the game. We all know that guys

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are gonna go down it as far
as Tommy John goes. It's not even

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if anymore, it's when. But
for the Dodgers, this is not a

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short sample size, Dave. This
has gone on for about six seven years

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now. It feels like there's always
just a slew of guys on the IL.

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And these aren't like quick, oh, you know, they'll be back

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in two weeks. These guys are
taking like two three months to heal,

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you know, So, like,
what are these what is the training staff

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doing? Give me, give me
a specific case, name one of the

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seven pictures I mentioned on the I
L and why it's the trainer's fault.

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Okay, Ryan Brazier's got a cap
injury. He takes the cat like he's

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thirty. He's thirty six years old. And yes, it took two months

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when he was in Boston. Okay, Joe Kelly another thing, that's a

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lot. Joe Kelly's thirty six years
old too. He's had arm problems,

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his arms dangling. What about like
a lot of the young pictures as well?

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Who dust I thought May? Like
I said, it's easy to point

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the finger. I know you called
in, you're fired up. You want

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to point the finger at the training
staff. It's not the training staff's fault,

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Chris. You're dealing with older relief
pictures though. Two that you just

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mentioned. And when you talk about
some of the younger pitchers, I heard

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you start to say Dustin May and
Tony Gonsolin. Well, maybe the thought

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process of the way these pitchers are
being trained in the minor leagues shouldn't be

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throw one hundred miles an hour the
first day of spring training. Maybe that's

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where the industry as a whole has
to take a look in the mirror and

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start deciding, you know what,
maybe max effort every single pitch is not

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the way to go, because if
you do, those guys are going to

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break. And yeah, if you're
the raising Dodgers. You have a pitching

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depth to fill in for the next
man up. But for me, I

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feel like these pitchers need to be
taught that throwing one hundred miles an hour

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on the first day of spring training
should not be celebrated. Yeah, I

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hear you. And now that was
gonna be my next point. It's not

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just at the major league level,
it's also at the minor league level.

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But it just feels like, Hey, the Dodgers. The Dodgers' minor league

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pitching coordinator is on the record is
saying his goal is to have his pitchers

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throw one hundred miles an hour.
That's not the way to go. Chris,

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Oh, I to hear you.
I hear you. That's what I'm

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saying, Like this has to change. But it just also feels the Dodgers,

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compared to other teams, usually have
a lot of il sins for their

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pitchers, and like I said,
it's been going on. It seems like

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the last six seven years, even
the years where they were winning n ol

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Pennance, like this games to be
Chris, it's not just the Dodgers.

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Look around. I know we're in
the bubble of the Dodgers. It's not

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just the Dodgers. It's an industry
wide issue when it comes to the elbow,

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the shoulder, and when you're talking
about veterans like Kelly and Brazier,

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are you going to point out Kershaw
because he's thirty six as well and has

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a lot of miles on him.
So it's not just that I gotta run.

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Thanks for the phone call. Eight
six six ninety seven two five seventy

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is the phone number. Let's go
out to Diana, Granada Hills. You're

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on Dodger Talk. How are you
doing, Diana? Hi, Dave.

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I'm doing pretty well. How are
you? I'm doing great? Good good.

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So the callers, Chris, he
brought up a lot of what I

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wanted to talk about. But honestly, I'm just wondering, do you think

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there'll ever be a shift back to
not throwing one hundred miles per hour every

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pitch like back in the seventies and
eighties. I mean, I don't remember

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pictures going down the way they do
now, and it's quite frustrating as a

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fan to you know, every year
the great pictures are going out. I

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mean, it's the problem is Diana. It's not just the organizations, but

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it's the culture that's created, and
it's going to have to be another wave

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of rethinking the way you train as
a pitcher. The problem is a lot

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of these young pitchers, the generation
of the Bobby Millers. Yes, they're

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chasing velocity not only in the game, but also in their bullpen sessions.

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From what I understand, they're trying
to make the best, greatest pitch in

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their bullpen session and looking at the
iPad looking to see their spin rate,

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looking to see their velocity. That's
not what bullpen's sessions are meant for.

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It's supposed to be nice and easy
work on certain things, not to try

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to throw the best pitch ever at
the hardest velocity. So I feel like

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with the pitch clock, there is
a rethinking in the industry as a whole

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that we can't encourage these guys to
try to a go max effort on the

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mound in a game and b not
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So I feel like with this pitch
clock right now, there's a whole rethinking,

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not just with the Dodgers, but
in all a major League Baseball on

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how to best prepare these pitchers.
Right right, Well, I can tell

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you I know it starts at the
high school level at least, because you

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know, all these guys getting drafted
or seen or going to go to college

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are throwing ninety five in high school
and they're doing that, and those high

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school coaches are encouraging that as well, Diana, and that's a problem as

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well. Andrew Freeman just scratched the
surface when he was asked about that at

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the end of last season, and
he said, that's a whole different press

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conference if you want to get into
what's going on at the youth baseball level.

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So it's got to be a whole
recalibration starting in high school because,

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as you know, Diana, kids
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Yep, it's crazy, it's crazy. I know. Thanks a lot

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for the phone call, appreciate it. Hey, Speaking of max effort and

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high velocity, did you notice what
keyk Hernandez was throwing in the seventh and

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eighth innings tonight? You never want
to see a position player throwing in those

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innings, And it reminded me of
the last time keyk a Hernandez was pitching.

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It happened to be in Philadelphia back
in twenty eighteen. Where he came

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in in the sixteenth inning of a
tie game. The Dodgers were out of

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pitchers. They had to play a
day game within a eleven hours, and

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Dave Roberts needed key K a Hernandez
to go to go out there tonight.

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Keik a Hernandez threw his hardest pitch
at fifty four miles an hour, and

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you know what he did. He
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Key K a Hernandez did not allow
a hit or a run. That goes

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back to my point. You don't
have to throw one hundred miles an hour

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to get outs. Let the guys
behind you do their job. Now,

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this was an extreme case, right, fifty four miles an hour. That's

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not something you want to see.
But the reason why Kik was only throwing

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fifty five miles an hour or fifty
four miles an hour, was because of

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what he was told by his teammates
back in twenty eighteen. When Dave Roberts

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threw him out on the mound in
the sixteenth inning, his teammates told him,

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don't blow out, don't try to
be superman out there, just get

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it over the plate. And here
was Keik Hernandez last year on Muki Bets'

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podcast, recalling that night in Philadelphia
in twenty eighteen. At the top of

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the sixteenth inning and I am over
seven and the game is tied. We

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run out a bullpin on. Dave
Roberts looks at me and goes, whodo

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score you're bitching? Oh? I
go out their first pitch, I throw

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ball, gets hit in the gap
and I look back and Bellinger's running out

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there like a dinosaur. The whole
extension gets it. Next guy forerverploof of

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the play. I got him on
two strikes and then I throw him an

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Eathles server Proof absolutely launches his baseball
walk off through on Homer and then I

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get into that locker room and you
can hear people think you. I just

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go, hey, guys, has
any of you ever gone over seven at

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the plate and lost the game on
the mound? Yeah, that was keyk

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a Hernandez on the Mookie podcast last
year talking about when he first pitched in

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Philadelphia back in twenty eighteen. So
maybe he broke the ice again. And

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hard to argue that we saw Key
k Hernandez have the most fun tonight on

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the mound that we've seen in a
lot time because the bat has not been

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there for Key K. He looks
frustrated. He's been acting frustrated. So

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hopefully this loosened him up and he
can go out there and play free and

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easy and be the Key K Hernandez
we know he can be. Hopefully he's

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there for Gavin Stone tomorrow. Gavin
Stone is on the mound for the Dodgers

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tomorrow. He's nine and two with
an ERA of three zero three. He's

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going up against another rookie standout in
Christopher Sanchez, who has had a great

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year for the Phillies. He's six
and four with an ERA of two ninety

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six. Morongo Casino Dodgers on Deck
begins at three o'clock tomorrow, with first

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pitch at four oh five. That'll
do it for us tonight here on Dodger

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Talk. I see a lot of
you still on hold. If we didn't

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get you, you call back tomorrow, especially if the Dodgers win. Thanks

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to Colin Ee for all his help
and his Beach Boys hoodie. Thanks to

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Dwayn McDonald in Philadelphia, and thanks
to you for listening. In case you

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missed any of the show, you
can find it on the iHeartRadio app.

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That's also where you can find our
pregame conversation with veteran lefty James Paxton,

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one of the few that's still standing
in this Dodger rotation. Once again.

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The final score tonight from Philadelphia,
the Phillies defeat the Dodgers ten to one.

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Fox Sports Radios next. Have a
great rest of your night see them