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I know that there are hot button issues

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in this world, especially in the
United States, and that on the basic

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surface, you might go this is
a major issue in religion. But when

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it comes to faith, I know
there's a lot of misconception about the United

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States being a Christian nation, and
that's not true when you go back and

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really look at it. The whole
point was for people to be able to

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to really worship the way they wanted
to. Regardless, it's a Christian nation

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in the sense that the vast social
parts of Christianity are celebrated like Christmas and

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Easter. However, yes, the
Ten Commandments are a powerful tool in the

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justice system, but those are generally
across the board in most systems because the

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pragmatism of it all. It's very
pragmatic to have laws against murder and theft

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and the like, but don't confuse
the Constitution with the Bible, or the

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Bible with the Constitution. I think
people get caught up in that, and

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the reality is that Christians won't do
or shouldn't do, the things that are

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believed to be forbidden. And I
get the importance. I get that you're

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taking the life in the view of
the Christian with a baby, an unborn

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baby. But that's a Christian belief, that's not a science belief. Scientists

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don't believe at the point of conception, that's a that's a who, And

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as long as that's there, there
will be a distinct difference towards what is

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believed in the courts versus what might
be believed in Christianity. However, like

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I said, I think a lot
of Christians get it wrong because they're focusing

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They're focusing on the emotion of it, which is obvious, but not even

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scripture, where Scripture is looking at
it as someone coming home, and that

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if the soul is there at conception, that soul goes back to be with

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God. But the soul that doesn't
go back to be with God is the

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one that loses its faith or doesn't
have faith and therefore never will go.

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So many false teachers desire to take
children, women, men, take their

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souls down a path that rejects the
word of God. And it's interesting that

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you don't find people laying their bodies
across false teachers, whether it be healers,

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whether it be health and wealth,
doctrine, distributors, and with these

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things being in the actual church that
has talked about over and over and over

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again in scripture, abortion is not
And I think that when politics become more

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important than the faith itself, than
the Word of God itself, it's a

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problem regardless of what side of the
aisle you're sitting on. And then again

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you get to the place where you're
this is we talked about this earlier,

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where you're trying to push your views
on non believers. The rest if Christians

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aren't doing it, and that's not
to say that some don't, but if

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Christians aren't doing the things you don't
like participating in prostitution because it's legal in

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some areas in the United States,
and so are rugs that Christians wouldn't take,

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then really it's not about those things. It's about because temptation is going

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to be everywhere. It's about the
character of your faith, the strength of

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your faith, and the fact that
you should be bringing new people into the

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fold, and in doing that there's
power. You're not called to change laws

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as a believer, you're called to
change hearts. And I think sometimes people

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get caught up in the politics because
it's easier to rant and rave about that

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that actually change a heart, actually
working in tandem with the Holy Spirit to

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connect with somebody to give them peace
and comfort in a way that they want

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to ask you about the hope that
lies within you, and that believers don't

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want to do that anymore. They
get into politics and start yelling to change

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these laws rather than getting more believers
that won't participate in those laws. Because

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just because something's legal or illegal in
the United States doesn't determine whether the believers

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should do it or not. I
e. Prostitution is legal, doesn't mean

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you get a pass when you're in
Nevada. So it's not about the laws.

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To the believer. Should be about
the change of heart. It should

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be about the focusing on the things
of God, and that takes work from

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you to be a leader an example. The laws will follow if people don't

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care for it. Anyways, you
get less of those things you're concerned about

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if the believer has their head on
straight. But you can't use scripture to

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try and teach somebody who doesn't believe
in scripture. It just doesn't match.

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It's not their law, it's your
law, so you shouldn't do it.

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But you can't keep others from doing
it. If it's legal in the United

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States, you can just hope to
change their heart by being a great example.

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Bill, Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Good morning. Hi there,

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How can I help you. Yeah, there's a number of scriptures in

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the Bible they talk about predetermination,
and yet it's pretty earlier also that we

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have free choice. Correct. So
I've been trying to reconcile those two and

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how can they say we are predetermined
in one burst, but then say we

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have free will and choices another.
And I came up with an analogy I

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just wanted to share and see if
I mean, we're a close right,

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God stands out outside of time.
God created time, and that's one of

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the first things I had to think
of, And me being a time based

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creature, I really have no idea
what that means. But I was thinking

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about one of my granddaughters and when
she was between the ages of four and

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six, I knew her really well. And if we were sitting in the

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living room and she kind of snuck
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all I had to do is wait
for about one minute and I could

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catch her with her hands in the
cookie jar. That didn't mean I predetermined

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her to do that. I just
meant I knew her that well. And

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then I started thinking, well,
if I knew her that well as a

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human, and God knows everything,
and God knows me better that I know

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myself, he knows what choices I'm
going to make in those moments. But

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just like me and my granddaughter,
that does not predetermine her. That just

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says I know her that well,
and God knows me better than I know

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myself, and he is omniscient.
And so I came up that kind of

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an idea on how to reconcile the
two things that are we predetermined to a

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certain extent. I'd say, yes, but do we have free will?

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We definitely have free will? And
then God stands outside of time, and

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he knows me that well, He's
not predetermining me. He just knows what

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I'm going to do ahead of time, because if we are are predetermined,

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how can we be judged by something
that we are programmed to do? Yeah,

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and I'd like to give me some
more clarity on that. Well,

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I think is as much as all
analogies break down at some point. But

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I think that that is a good
way to start understanding it is knowing someone

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or knowing those things. And it
says that God has known us since the

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beginning. John six forty four says, no one can come to me unless

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the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up on

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the last day. So drawing him, why would you draw someone to you

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if they were already predetermined, predestined. So there are many that have to

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be taken in the whole of it
all, but there is a process of

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understanding, and more so that one
there would be no trip to the cross

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unless it was known that at least
some would would follow. So it's going

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to be predetermined that people would follow. And there's many verses that talk about

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that connected to the foreknowledge Romans eight
twenty nine. For those whom he four

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knew, he also predestined to be
confirmed in the image of his son in

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order that he might be the firstborn
among many brothers, So that four knew

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and that predestined, and those types
of words the actual translation of pro rizzo,

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which is a Greek word meaning determined
beforehand, ordaining that all these scenes

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kind of play into it. But
it is partly about being outside of time,

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as you pointed out, and us
being in time here right, having

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to deal with time and the reality
that free will and predestination can go hand

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in hand. Similarly to let's say
you walk into a place that has a

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pie, place that has fifty pies, it is predetermined. Your choice is

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predetermined, meaning that your choices,
the options you have is predetermined. But

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if you choose apple pie or pumpkin
pie, it's still free will, but

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the choices at hand are predetermined because
out of those fifty pies. So it's

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a it's a combination of God knowing
being outside of time, and God determining

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the possibilities of the outcome, preserving
the free will and preserving the predestination.

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Liz, Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Thanks Jesus. So, my

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question is my husband passed recently and
UM, he little lapsed Chatholic, he

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did believe in God, Um,
he did believe in you. And UM,

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my question is he died suddenly and
he had things that were unresolved,

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where he had um separations from family
members that he hadn't resolved and issues like

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that. Um, he's been ill
for a while and I do think that

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affected him somewhat with not settling them
and I want to know, just still

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go to heaven even though those issues
were never settled. Is it's it's just

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something where because of his belief in
you, he would still go to heaven

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even though he hadn't made everything right
before he left. So there was some

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family discord just and that wasn't that
it was still being talked about. Are

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still up in the air, but
nothing ever right? Okay, So it

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was still disrupted conversations. Um,
what kind of things were unhealed? Oh

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it's um, just hop Um,
how do I want to it was?

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It was issues that were left over
from when his mom passed. He was

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for um caregiver. UM, and
a couple of the family remembers were not

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happy. There were hard words spoken. I see, yeah, and um

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was it over money in the estate
or what? Um it was some over

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that, some over and not so
much. Yeah it would have been dis

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yeah, um just in how she
was taken care of. Um. Um

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he did everything he could. I
mean I watched him. He Uh,

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she did everything he could. He
made sure she was in good facilities.

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Um. They just felt you know
that they would have done things different.

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Yeah, they this happens a lot, and it's like, well where then

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where were you? Yeah, no, I this happens so often and we

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get calls upon this that I'm blown
away that still to this day, you

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really it ends up going towards the
money. Regardless of what people say that

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they come up and say, well, I wouldn't have done it that way,

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or you know, I didn't like
this, or sometimes the one that

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is doing the caregiving often is the
one that is left more or noted differently,

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And then everybody comes and says,
well, I don't know why I

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didn't like the way they did this, or that it's just it's family stupidity,

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quite honestly, and that it's funny
that the people that judge are nine

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out of ten times the one that
the ones that did nothing for the parents.

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So I get all of that.
Now, your main question, he

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died suddenly and didn't make peace with
his family. That's fine, that happens.

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They're just as much a part of
that, and now they should be

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making peace. And also that based
on his faith and his belief in God,

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that there is no such things.
Which thing is someone dying subtly or

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suddenly in God's world? God knows
everything that's coming on, and a minute

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can be as a year to God, and so when someone passes, there's

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plenty of connection and time that God
has with that person, and I wouldn't

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worry about him, Liz at all. It's sad that the circumstance went the

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way it did and that the family
members pushed so so much back, and

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they're you know, the they have
aside to the story as well. But

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ultimately, I hear this time and
time again that people, just in their

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family, they do horrible things afterwards
when someone dies, and for whatever reason,

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the person who actually gives up their
time to be with the parent who

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is ill always gets the brunt of
it. And a lot of it comes

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from the shame that the other siblings
feel by not standing up and being a

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part of the health and the care
of their parent. They're also the ones

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that give up excuses after excuses,
being busy with work, whatever it might

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be that shows that they just you
know, ultimately didn't do what they should

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have done, and then they take
it out on the person who does it.

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And it's not easy. Those gigs
are not easy. It is very

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difficult to take care of a parent
when they're ill, and if the family

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comes together to take care of it
together is the best way to do it.

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But what ends up happening is some
family are selfish and just kind of

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look the other way and go,
oh, well, it's getting done,

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and it's unfortunate, you know.
And often it's, strangely enough, it's

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the sibling who has had difficulty with
a parent, you know, like maybe

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they were slightly estranged, or they
had argued a lot or never clicked in

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their relationship, and that individual is
the one that ends up taking care of

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them in their time of need.
It's it's a very strange setup the way

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it seems to work in many cases, because there's ultimately always somebody that steps

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up to do it. Then they're
judged by every single person in the family,

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and then if Heaven forbid, there's
more given, or often sometimes the

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house is given to the person who
took care of them, and that's when

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everybody comes out and goes, you
didn't even do that great of a job.

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You shouldn't get this. You brainwashed
mom or dad to giving you all

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this, and it just gets ugly
and it's incredibly unfortunate. So in life

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that's over now, but when you're
dealing with it, it's very harsh and

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very heavy. I wouldn't worry about
your husband and his path to God.

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It has nothing to do with that
specific situation whatsoever. Jeff, Welcome to

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the Jesus Christ Show. Hey,
welcome, Thanks for having I call.

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Yeah, I bet I'm the first
caller that actually tuned into you while I

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was in the shower. I have
a blue tooth speaker and I was just

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spinning the dial and then I pumped
into your station. I've never listened to

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you before, but I go,
Hey, what the heck, I'll take

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a shower and listen. See what's
going on. Well, I appreciate you

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taking the time to listen and to
call. Believe it or not, the

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show has been on locally and now
nationally for over twenty years, so welcome.

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Well, it only took me twenty
years to catch that, or vice

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versa. Well, how can I
help you, Jeff? Well, okay,

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So I'm I'm kind of on the
fence with believing in Christ. I

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believe in God. I'm not sure
who God is exposed to a number of

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different religions, primarily based on girlfriends
with different religions. So yes, that's

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often it happens. You are not
alone there, Jeff, Okay, So,

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and I don't believe in evolution,
so that would kind of put me

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in the fence I should be believing
in Christ. But anyway, my question

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is with all the information documented with
estraterrestrial beings and now the government releasing a

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lot of information about you know,
they've got seized crash spacecraft, and you

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know, I think there's no question
in anybody's mind that there's beings outside our

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universe or outside of our planet.
And so my question is, does God

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or Jews are they just like focused
on Earth, our galaxy or the whole

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entire universe. I just can't get
my fingers around that grasp around that.

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Well, yes, it would have
to be all or nothing in this case,

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because of course, the if God
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and that would that would be everything. Now, I may disagree a little

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bit with what you believe that has
been found and documented. There's a lot

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of information coming out about what we're
commonly known as UFOs unidentified flying objects,

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and now the UAE or whatever they
you want to call them, there has

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still been no record of an actual
extra extraterrestrial coming to the Earth and having

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contact other than people's individual stories anecdotally, So it's not like there have there

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Just recently the other day there were
some space garbage, space stuff that came

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to the Earth and there were some
of the remnants were spheres, and one

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of them looked like it was an
actual design of the Earth sphere of the

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Earth. In the crafted and metal. There's different things that are found and

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the understanding of what they are is
left to the scientists that are poking around

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and seeing what the material is and
if it is actually an image of intelligence,

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meaning you know, like finding a
book rather than something that looks like

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part of an alphabet. One can
be just kind of there and then the

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other one a book. It just
screams intelligence. There's no reason, no

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other explanation for it. So as
far as there being other planets and other

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universe and the like, yes,
we continue to see more and more,

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further and further and learn more and
more in the process. However, there

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still has not been found life or
similar life to what you would define as

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life here on the planet. And
that's not just small organisms, that is

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humans. So in scripture, when
it talks about salvation, you have to

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put this into the entirety of the
conversation with Christianity and salvation. So either

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there is a planet somewhere with life
that didn't send that had the same option

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in the garden, or the concept
of the garden that didn't sin and therefore

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does not need salvation, or that
there they are somehow seen in a way

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that they don't need the power of
Christ. Because here's the problem. In

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scripture. I say many times that
I was not here to save the angels

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or anyone else. I came as
a human to save humans. But it's

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always speaking about this one planet.
So there would be a lot of questions

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that would have to be answered because
there is nothing that says there is anybody

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else. There is talk about being
of different tribes or things of that nature,

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but that's referring to the Jews and
the Gentiles. But there's nothing in

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there that really gives leeway to this
Jesus, this God creating salvation for any

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other place. It's just not in
there. So it could be complicated or

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people are missing something here on Earth
in scripture. But it could be very

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complicated if there was life on another
planet, because everything that is talked about

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in Scripture generates from the Earth and
from the heavens, so that's going to

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be a problem when trying to shift
over. My producer, Neil has said

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many times that if there is life
on another planet and they don't have some

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information that ties into scripture somehow,
it could be highly problematic, even making

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someone like him walk away from the
faith. So there's a lot tied up

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in that very concept. But at
this point, I know there's a lot

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of chatter, but it doesn't mean
that people have had actual contact other than

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you know, their word that they
were probed or something like that. But

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there is no aliens that have ever
come that we have friends that have ever

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sat down and talked with power brokers
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So there's much more to wait on. I suppose kf I am six forty on demand