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Well, ilmcome back to a flat Earth fires. Welcome back truth seekers
from around the world. We're back. Season two is here a little earlier
than we had planned, but a few things. I've gotten ahead on some
things I wanted to do on vacation, and I actually missed doing this.
This is quite therapeutic for me, and I've gotten so many emails people are
kind of bummed, like we're all caught up. What are we going to
listen to now? As a matter of fact, last week I was talking
to one of the friends of my other podcast where I've had on several times,
and it turned out he was a flat earther as well. I had
no idea and I said, man, you need to come on sometimes.
So he's going to kick off season two with us, and I'm actually going
to record the podcast this Tuesday. So season two we'll kick off. It'll
drop either Tuesday or Wednesday, June sixth or seventh, depending on what time
the interview gets done. So we're just a few days away from the kickoff
of Steven season two. Excuse me, and I have another interview set up
for later on in the week. So beginning this coming week you will start
going back to your two podcasts a week. We'll have interviews, of course,
we'll do listener interviews, and we'll do like we're doing today, kind
of just catching up on some emails and things like that, just having a
conversation. But I wanted to take a moment also and say thank you guys
very much for just a very successful season and one I had no idea,
you know, that this would take off like the way it has. And
I've met so many people from around the world, and that the emails have
been overwhelming. And I'm not talking about the number of them. I'm talking
about the context of them and what it means to people. And I really
missed that. My wife has kept me plenty busy. It's been more busy,
to be honest with you, since I've been on vacation than a normal
day here. But but that's okay, that's okay. This time of year
homesteading, it's very important. There's a lot of things to do. Our
chickens. It's almost time for them to take the field trip off to see
the Amish folks. They're growing incredibly quick or everything we're growing. I mean,
we're pulling salads every single day out of the ground. It's it's just
awesome. It's a lot of hard work. There's nothing easy about it,
but it is. It's certainly worth it. It's rewarding. And on top
of that, you know what you're putting in your body, which whether you're
going out to eat or going to the grocery stores just one of those things
you don't know. I mean we do. There's some things we go to
the grocery store. Four right, not all of us have cows. We
can go get our milk and so on and so forth, but we try
to limit and create as much of our own food as we can. Right.
I believe everything is okay in moderation, although when you think of Monsanto
and all the chemicals, I'm not sure that that poison is okay in moderation.
But man, it is what it is. And I do believe God
made our bodies strong, and even my old behind gets out there and walks
around a lot and gets a little bit exercise, and not as much as
I used to. Just a year and a half ago, I was running
five k's and coming in I got my little third place Trophy up there.
We did a little Buffalo wild Wings five k and I got third my age
group. But I had a pretty devastating leg injury in December twenty twent when
my running career is over, and I started running five cases a twelve year
old with my dad. So running, playing soccer, being in the military,
running always came naturally to me. But you know, I got those
city miles on my body from the military and it's pretty broken down. So
but I'm thankful. I still, you know, outside of that for the
most part, have my health. Listen, I hope everybody is doing tremendous
summertime is rolling in. We're in the beach area, so a lot of
people heading to the beach on the weekend. We try to stay away from
Route thirteen and Route one. That's where everybody heads to the beach on the
weekends. The traffic there is just crazy. But it's a great time of
year going. You know, we go down to the fishing Hole and I'm
really blessed to be back in this area here near the Chesapeake and near the
Atlantic Ocean to be able to enjoy, you know, God's creation. And
I hope everybody, I hope you all take the time, whether it's just
throwing on a backpack and taking a hike or going out back and sitting by
fire, just to you know, sometimes, like I did the last week,
pull your head out of the rabbit hole, and I say, I
do, but I still I have my little earbuton all day long, and
I'm just listening and thinking, and I wouldn't know what to do otherwise,
right, That's how a lot of us are wired. Us most of the
people listening to my voice right now. It's what we do. Right.
So yeah, season two was here, it's kicking off and our first episode
will drop in just a couple of days. And I think you will really
enjoy my guest, and I hope you'll enjoy his message and maybe you'll go
follow his message, but I'm going to leave that up to him to explain
to you. But I'm sure you will like him. And he's a very
very you know, thought out guy. He's very smart, and he's very
very well read in the Bible. I think you will really enjoy his take.
And again that's just in a couple of days. The website again,
it's the flat earth files dot Com. We will be embedding again the Fact
Hunter Radio there in just a couple of days. So if you're caught up
on all the episodes and you want to listen to some type of alternative radio,
that'll be plugged in there. We have a lot of classic audio,
whether it be Bill Cooper, g Edward Griffin, some of my stuff that's
not really out there, and I'm going to start creating things just for the
radio. And we have some listeners who have volunteered to do their own little
podcast and drop them in there, So keep an eye out for that here
in the next few days to a week. Again, that is the flat
Earth files dot Com. We have a chat room, we have our speak
pipe message system, all kinds of stuff for you to enjoy and interact.
Moreover, right to interact with people who are like minded. That is the
most important part of that website is to be able to interact with like minded
people, whether it be in the chat room or in the community forum and
sleep before we kick off our emails, questions, comments, concerns, or
you would like to join us on this broadcast, like we already have nine
people scheduled for June. Nine people scheduled for June. If you reached out
to me check your spam. There were two or three people who I emailed
back with an interview date didn't hear back, so I had to move on.
But if you're one of those people who maybe you think you didn't hear
back from me, double check. Just check your spam folder, because again
Big Tech is not a big fan of me, So check your spam.
And if we did miss right and something like that happened, just email and
me back and we'll work something out for July again. Nine people scheduled for
this month, look forward to it. Again. It is the flat Earth
files at gmail dot com. Again, it's the flat Earth files at gmail
dot com. Without any further ado, let's get into our emails, all
right, and again I'm not gonna say anybody's names on the air unless they
specifically say in the email to say their names. Our first email. Hey
brother, I'm a new listener and just listen to the January twenty fourth show.
I'm reaching up because I really appreciate your detail and integrity pertaining to the
truth about God's creation and his word. I was once a scoffer at flat
Earth, and I set out to find proof it was false. It's that's
a familiar story, is it not? And we all did that in twenty
fourteen, I was researching the nephelim and fallen angels, and what a great
segue. I'm gonna pause this email right here. July twenty fifth, very
special episode. I've gotten a lot of emails and one that will be read
here in a few minutes about dinosaurs. Well, on July twenty fifth,
I'm going to have the author of the Genesis sixth Conspiracy, Gary Wayne,
And there is you know, a lot of thought in the truth community that
these things that the Smithsonian, you know, the smiths An Institute. Just
a little segue from a segue if you look at their logo, So you
can pause this podcast and just go to Google and put in the Smithsonian Institute.
Look at their logo, and then another search put in you know,
the Jesuit logo. It's kind of interesting how close they are. But a
lot of people believe that many of these bones they find that claim to be
sixty five million years older actually nephelum bones. Interesting. So again, the
emailer says, in twenty fourteen hours researching the nephelum and fallen angels, this
study had recharged my love for for studying God's word and seeking the truth.
So I had going through a paradigm shift by this point. By that,
I mean everything I was taught at a young age. I began to question
and to really look for the truth. I used the Bible as my guideline
or baseline, with the attitude that if it's whatever I'm researching, if it's
not in line with the Word, then it's not true. You know what
he's saying is the Bible is the ultimate moral compass the truth, right,
And that's one of the things you know, I got a little carried away
with myself when we talk about is there extra territory beyond an Arctica? Well,
that would require another sun in another moon, I would assume, right.
So that's I've kind of leaned away from that theory. A little backstory
there leading up to the life changing truth I was about to learn God's creation.
In twenty fifteen, I happened to be listening to Rob Skiba and he
was talking about flat Earth. I was very skeptical but intrigued. At the
same time. He posted a sermon from Pastor Dean Odel of Fire and Grace
Ministries, which over the last week I've gotten a few emails at asking me
to bring Pastor Odele on the podcast A Fire and Grace Ministries regarding the truth
about God's creation. I listened to that sermon probably three times that day on
Prophecy Quake podcast by Pastor Dan Odle, writing down the scriptures provided. I
went home and pulled out my Bible and Strong Accordance and began to check every
reference. I thought, well, I'm sure this isn't true and he's just
misquoting scripture to fit his own agenda. But the more I studied, the
more I was convinced that I had been lied to my whole life. It
took me three days to accept this truth. And you know, every time
I read these emails, it takes me back to I mean, I remember
exactly when it hit me, and it was the same thing as this emailer.
Like, there's no way this guy has to be twisting the truth to
fit his agenda. That was my mindset when I was listening to the speaker,
when I was, you know, going through my awakening reading these different
websites, like these guys have to be twisting words to fit their agenda,
right, Because there's some conspiracies and then there's just people, you know,
like the birds aren't real people? Right that this was my thinking and I'm
not going to touch that one right now, okay, But I remember the
whole range of emotions, and that just from reading this email, I can
feel what the listener was going through that three days of just are you kidding
me? Day one is complete shock. It's walking around with your mouth open,
staring out the window, thinking like if this and this is me?
By the way, I'm just kind of adding onto his email, trying to
reflect my and not to beat a dead horse, because I'm sure over the
course of the first fifty episodes I've mentioned it a few times, but just
I remember, you know, I was living in Dover and just staring out
the window and thinking, well, if this, if they lied about this,
is there anything that is true? Is everything I spent? I remember
thinking I spent I guess if you include kindergarten, I spent thirteen years in
school in the old Rockefeller education system, who turns out the same people who
want you dead? You know? And if you start to do the math
one hundred and eighty school days times eight hours times thirteen years, that big
a chunk of my life? Was there anything true outside of Jim class and
lunch? Complete shot, and he goes on to say his Day two was
confronting my old beliefs, and Day three was the acceptance of the truth.
He says, it was like my brain had to reset. Indeed, after
that, I was completely changed and I felt free. I listened to and
continue to listen to every sermon by Pastor Dean, not just the ones about
flat Earth. I highly recommend Pastor Dean's podcast. It changed my life when
I started listening to his sermons. God used his ministry to reach me in
a way that I can't verbalize anyway. It would be awesome if you could
reach out to him and do an interview with him. He is having his
annual Skyfall conference this September, and I think he's going to be in Texas
in June like June tenth. I could be wrong, but I want to
say he's with another pastor, Pastor Locke lloc k E. I think those
two are doing to something in Texas around the tenth. Could be wrong,
but you can go to his website. It's Deanodel dot org DA and is
a Nancy Odle dot org and here I'm going to copy this so I don't
forget to put it in the show description. So if this, you know,
piques anybody's interest and you'd like to check it out, maybe I'm actually
right about this, and you live in Texas, you can go check that
out again. He says. If you haven't watched the previous Skyfall conferences,
I would recommend them again. His website is Deanodel dot org. You can
find everything there. Switching Gears. You were talking about NASA in episode sixteen
and how they have a daily budget of seventy million dollars a day and how
their content is terrible. It really is. Agree. I've researched the history
of NASA and came to the conclusion that after Operation Paperclip, the birth of
NASA was a front for the Nazis to continue their war crimes against humanity.
And it is interesting because we did a lot of the Nazis over with Operation
paper Clip. It's interesting if the stories were true, how all of a
sudden are these people within the depths of our governments and if you look and
I'm not going to go too deep into this because this is just so many
layers to this onion. If you look at the casualties between the Allies and
Axis, it's not even close. And then you look at the story and
they say who won. I'm not sure if it was a winner more than
an agreement. But I completely digress from that. That's so many layers to
that onion. Okay. He goes on to say the Nazis were always trying
to create super human hybrids or the nephelim archetype. It goes back to Jack
Parsons, l Ron Hubbard, Warner von Braun, Alister Crawley and his Babylon
Working. And I did do a podcast many years ago on Babylon Working and
it's interesting. You know, you have a guy l Ron Hubbard who wrote
the book Dianetics and it became a religion off of a fiction book, which
is very interesting. Warner von Brown came over from Operation paper Clip, the
you know, the guy who created the V two rocket, and of course
on his headstone where he's buried, it has Psalms nineteen one which says,
you know, the firmament gods show with his handywork with a firmament. Basically
Alistair Crowley, who may or may not be the father of Barbara Bush and
Jack Parsons, who was the leader of the original suicide Squad. And they
called them that because they said all of his you know, rocket, all
the things that he did were reckless. That's why they were nicknamed the suicide
Squad. Back to the email, North America is riddled with deep underground basis.
This is true. True. My second ever interview years ago was with
Stephen D. I can't think of his last name right now, angmona pause
and Stephen D. Kelly. I didn't even have to pause second podcast ever,
And this guy was all about the Getty family and how they have bases.
There no doubt they have underground bases Denver Airport that in itself is its
own rabbit hole. Indeed, there is underground bases all across this country.
Goes on to say, it is my hypothesis that publicly NASA is an aeronautical
space agency, but in fact their real purpose is extremely nefarious. The Nazis
were engaged in the most horrific human experimentation ever seen in modern times, maybe
in modern history. And this is what NASA really does. I believe NASA
had a hand in, if not really ran Project Montauk and mk Ultra,
I'm very interesting, but we will never know since most of the evidence was
destroyed, kind of like the Apollo mission tapes, right, And of course
insert the old the guy from NASA saying, well, we'd go back to
the moon and a nano second, but we lost it at the garage.
You know, every year NASA has a garage sale, and I guess you
know Joe who handles the tapes, accidentally put those in the great NASA yard
sale of nineteen seventy. He goes on to say, how did I arrive
at this conclusion My research of the Nephelum and the first hand accounts of Philip
Schneider, and he was a subject matter expert on the dumbs the deep underground
military basis also a part of Excuse me. Also a part was the so
called discovery of Gilgamesh some year singing I believe dustin Nemos mentioned that as well.
Interestingly, the body was removed for testing, and that led me to
the Nephelum bloodlines. The elite want to recreate the biblical Nephelum to fight Jesus
upon his return. This is an age old quest of God of this world
has been seeking since the Garden of Eden. He says, sorry, it
was long winded. It was not, and it was very informational, very
intriguing, and he asked for my input and insight. I did reply via
email, and I just replied again via a podcast. So again, thank
you very much for your email. I greatly appreciate it, and God bless
you and your family. My friend, let's get to the next email.
Okay, I think. Okay, here we go. She says, you
can use my name in the podcast. Okay, this is from Nicole.
Hey there, George. My name is Nicole and I live in the beautiful
state of Alabama, roll Tide. My husband and I are brand new believers
in the Flatter Theory. First, I just want to thank you for this
podcast. It is very informative. As a believer in Christ. I am
so thankful that my eyes have been opened and I am now fully awake.
And you know, indeed, again I think it was Russian VIDs who coined
the term baby truther and a baby truth or is hip to everything else that
is going on the world, whether it be nine to eleven JFK, the
moon landing. But until you really take that big spoonful of medicine, which
is, you know, for a lack of a better terms, I know,
flat Earth, you don't really get the full picture right, and that
is really you don't realize how deep the lie goes until you take the time
and look into flatter Back to Nicole, she says, my brother introduced me
to this about three weeks ago, when he first began to tell me that
we have been lied to, and I thought it was crazy. Honestly,
you see how all these stories are all the same, even mine. You're
like, are you kidding me? Guy? What did you smoke for lunch?
She says. The only thing I was happy about was that through this
information was about the firmament that he found Christ again. And this is a
story that we hear over and over and over flat Earth. This truly truly
does bring people back to God and back to Christ. Amen to that.
When he sent me your podcast with Dustin Nemos and I listened to that,
it truly changed my life. I immediately began to listen to your Flatterarth Files
the next day. I'm currently on episode thirteen. I've been trying to share
this new information with my friends and family. Just as you said, a
little bit at a time, a few breadcrumbs here and there, trying to
send them some of the videos you talked about, especially the NASA fails again
and again space is fake and again if you catch NASA just one time lying,
they are liars, okay, and they have been caught countless times,
whether it's people on not ropes, but you know, guidelines and everything else
that the CGI, and of course the big one that is making the rounds
now is the guy dropped a ball and it went straight down and he's supposed
to be in space. If he was really in space, the ball should
have kind of floated there. But not only did the ball drop to the
ground, the guy on the other side went to reach down to grab it,
and as Harness held him up, he couldn't reach down. It was
like, I don't know if you guys ever saw the video of the kind
of the outtakes of the moon landing when the astronauts trying to reach he's quote
unquote on the Moon and he's trying to reach down to pick something up in
his Horness is keeping it is crazy. You should have seen their faces when
the ball just goes straight to the ground and the guy on the right side,
tries to lean over and pick it up, and the harness pulls him
right back. It is just fail army material indeed, is what it really
is. I also am watching the thirty X that Dustin Nemos put together.
Again, great information he has. It's the Seripium dot com. And again,
don't worry about writing the stuff down. I'll have it in the show
description. He has tremendous stuff. And by the way, when you do
stop in and say, hey, you know George from the Flutterarth file and
says hello, let's bring it back in season two. What do you think,
guys, I think it would be tremendous to bring him back. It's
just astounding how deep this all truly goes. And it angers me so much.
You know how much money we pay NASA daily and again you know the
money that we could use. You know, when I drive into town,
you know, even back in the day, you might see one homeless person
that there's a homeless person and every block. Now and this is I'm a
Delaware right and Dover's our capital. But it's it's a small town. It's
a college town. We have Delaware State University, and you know, just
like everybody else we have our best buys or Sam's clubs, and of of
course you know all the state buildings. But it's it's heartbreaking to see it,
truly is. But it's even harder to swallow when you see how much
money is going out for other countries. And it would be I guess,
easier to swallow if we knew it was actually going to the people to help,
but we know it's not. It's getting laundered. And again I'm not
going to go too far off that today, but yeah, I agree,
Nicole. It is frustrating. You see how much money we pay and when
you see how much money comes out of your paycheck every week, it's like
parasite sucking the blood out of us, right only to see that money go
to things that you were like, what are you kidding me? As we
struggle to feed our families with this crazy inflation, they are sucking us dry
for a lie. That is a great way to end that paragraph. Nicole
says, as we struggle to feed our families with this crazy inflation, they
are sucking us dry for a lie. And even the food lockers down here
are struggling. It's it's tough man. Well anyway, I wanted to say
hi and thank you again for this amazing tool. Have a wonderful day.
Can you please send me that Prophecy Club episode about the paganism of Christian holidays.
Thank you so much, and I do have those things lined up for
you. Absolutely, and yeah, we'll definitely that'll be in the show description
for y'all. All right, next email is from We'll just say it's from
Nashville. I'm your typical Southern woman. I love Jesus, my husband and
my son. I work a normal job, just doing my part in the
rat race. I've really enjoyed your podcast and I'm caught up on all episodes
to date. I'm new to the idea of flat Earth and only started researching
it a few months ago. You know, it's really interesting now. Obviously,
you know, the emails we get are just a small microcosm of the
actual because you know, there's tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of
people out there who were in the flat of the community that's never heard of
my podcast. But it's interesting to see that the amount of new people within
weeks and even months to the community that is so exciting to hear, says
I feel like I stumbled upon the idea by accident. My initial research started
with the moon landing hoax stuff, which is when I started to see a
connection with NASA and an Arctica. I knew I was onto something after learning
that Disney and Von Brown were friends, and of course they made some videos
in the mid fifties. But of course, after doing some research, my
suggested video algorithm on social media put up a short clip of someone talking about
flat Earth. It felt strange, like all these serious subjects I was looking
into was now some sort of joke. Because of course when I first heard
it, I thought it was ridiculous, of course, but then it was
like I couldn't look away, and more and more I started to see how
it was all connected. It says, I feel like I was right for
the pickin, because I am definitely one of those people you talk about who
started to see that, you know, what the government was capable of as
far as lying about during COVID, and indeed we said many times that not
just our government, but the governments around the world, which they were all
in hate to use the words but lockstep. They were all in lockstep around
the world, and they overplayed their hands and as a matter of fact,
if you follow me on Instagram, which is at the fact Hunter, I
always remind people of what went on during COVID. Just a couple months ago
on my other podcasts, I took I think almost an hour of nothing but
soundbites from the last three years, whether it was preachers being arrested or the
gym and New Jersey getting fined, and you know, the voice clips of
the governors of the town's threatening their citizens if you don't wear a mask,
if you don't get this vaccine. So I posted I think it was just
yesterday, maybe the day before. This was White House always keeps all their
stuff right, And this was from I think November of twenty twenty one,
and again the White House dot gov and you'll see it if you go to
Instagram and again at the Fact Hunter. We are intent on not letting Amicron
disrupt work in school. For the vaccinated, you've done the right thing and
we will get through this. For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winner
of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you
may soon overwhelm. So our message to every American is clear, there is
action you can take to protect yourself and your family. Wear a mask in
public indoor settings, get vaccinated, Get your kids. They call your children
goats. Get your kids vaccinated, and get a booster shot when you're eligible.
How did that work out for Jamie Fox? Poor Jamie Fox didn't want
to take the vaccine, but if you wanted to be part of the movie,
studio said, Now, the reports all over the place. I'm not
sure if they've been validated or not, but that he's blind and all kinds
of things gone on. And we've all seen the stories, and I've gotten
so many emails from people who've had family members suffer from this thing. And
yeah, they continued to overplay their hand to force people to get this jab
and it did inadvertently wake a lot of people up. It had a big
hand in this flat earth movement, says I feel seriously red pilled and have
been brave enough to talk about flat earth with a few trusted family members and
friends. And I think that's where most people start, right. You know,
the people that you can basically when you're in a real tough jam,
that people you have to talk to. Those are the type of people you're
going to say, hey, you know I know you're probably going to think
I'm crazy, but I came across this information and I just want to share
it with you because I care about you. I want you to be privy
to this lie, because one you understand this lie, it is really it
is freeing to me. That's once. Like the last emailer talks about those
three days of emotions, mind seemed like it was two weeks. Maybe it
wasn't, but it was quite a ride. But when you're done, when
you've gotten all over the motions and the betrayal and things like that, it
is freeing. Right to me, it was very free. But those are
the people you can kind of confine. It says for me, one of
the most powerful observations we can feel ourselves is the fact the earth is stationary,
and that goes back to believing with your eyes and your ears and your
touch versus a Rockefeller education system. When I really thought about why we can't
feel or see the earth spinning at a thousand miles per hour, which is
faster than the speed of sound, I might add, it was enough proof
for me to understand the rest. When you watch the viral videos of the
Red Bull Jump and other similar stunts. The Earth isn't spinning, and he
lives in that. He didn't land in a different state or anything else.
When pilots fly, they don't account for the spin. Right, Well,
we're going to be there for three hours, so Texas is going to be
over here in three hours, so I need to head that way. No,
they fly straight to their destination. Right. They fake the curve.
I'm sorry. They can fake the curve with the fish eye lens, but
they haven't quite figured out how to mimic the spin in my humble opinion.
Last, I appreciate you placing links to videos in the podcast description and wanted
to share a few of my favorite resources too, which I will also drop
in the show description. Some of the links to videos and some of the
video pictures I've found and done myself. And I am going to take a
minute to play one of the clips. I may or may not have played
this before, but it's one of those oldies but goodies. And this will
be in there as well. This is from nineteen sixty five, and this
is a scientist who claims the moon is plasma. You're seeing here is the
sea. Mister Saunders, so calm and apparently unchanging, and yet it is
part of my neww conception about the nature of the world. At this same
sea many times in the past history of our earth, as we're rolled over
the surfaces of the landmasses, speeping away all life and vegetation, and eventually
turning again to its former bit. This is the part of the biblical theory
of the flood and the theory of people of other races. Oh. Yes,
this actual event, the last one, is recorded in all the sacred
scriptures of all the old civilizations from the Hindus of the Bible. Before we
go home with that, you've made a number of predictions, scientific predictions which
you claim have come true. Now what are those predictions and how do you
make this claim? Well, all based on the new notion that the physical
invari principles of contemporary science are invalid. And I stated this first in the
manuscript Reviewed in Australian nineteen fifty four, and the validity of this statement was
confirmed finally last year at Princeton when the principle of time reversal invariants was found
to be invalid. Well, who accepts the fact that you've made these predictions
accurately? The facts are such undeniable and must be accepted because they're documented,
and it was accepted at such a doxfoot that Tasmanian University and also at the
National University. The facts are such are accepted, but the explanations and the
new views as yet are not. Do you mean decided that you reject all
the basic principles of science established since Aristotle's day? Now it doesn't mean that
state and maintained that those concepts and interpretations of science which are still based today
and Aristotelian logic have a certain purpose, but that is defined by a statement
as that a spade is a spade, or a fine chisel is a fine
chisel. But these concepts are inadequate for a complete understanding of the real nature
of the world. How is it possible, mister Foster, the due as
an individual can work out these theories when all the other established scientists have computers
and all the money of government behind them, and yet they apparently can't.
Well, I do not claim at all that it is due to my own
intellector to my own penetration. I have been deeply interested from early youth in
the real nature of the world, and held my own views and ideas.
But many years ago, about fourteen years ago, when I was challenging one
of the fundamental conventional principles of science, I had a definite inspiration, not
knowledge as such, but an indication and a guidance which I've followed on which
I've worked very hard and to evolve into a new structure of understanding. Inspirations
are related to thoughts of genius. Do you think we'll consider yourself to be
a genius? Now? Consider myself to be an ordinary, humble person who
wants to serve mankind with what man has striven for from the beginning of consciousness,
with truth and understanding of the world. Well, now, one thing,
you have a theory about the moon, and that we expect to be
able to get observable facts about the moon fairly soon. What is your theory?
While it is by now rather more than this theory ten away, eleven
years ago, I stated to various scientists that the moon is not a piece
of rock, but it is a plasma plasma phenomena cosmic plasma, and that
this fact will eventually be confirmed. I made certain predictions which were already confirmed
in nineteen fifty eight, and the situation now is coming close to a complete
confirmation. What will be the result if you are proved to be correct in
your theories. The result will be profound and decisive because it will give proof.
The complete reinvestigation of the laws of nature is necessary because if the moon
is a plasma, no man will ever land on it. The self planning
attempts will all fail. That means that the mass of the Moon is less
fireless than is currently assumed. It's in a different state of energy, and
it has far less mass. That means there is no more explanation for the
tides. If the moon, for example, had only a thousandth part of
its current mass, and the tides would only be two inches high, and
the conventional theories instead of sometimes called in feet. And that means that if
it is proof that the moon is a plasma, then all gravitational theories are
art and the new concept of the cosmos and of its laws has to be
evolved. And you being a bit adventurous though, because you know we're going
to be able to test out your theories on the moon fairy soon, well,
not anymore. Eleven years ago, of course, it was rather taking
a risk. I was considered a lunatic, of course, but by now
the evidence, accumulated evidence is already so much in my favor, and I'm
not taking any risks anymore. On the contrary, the scientific rules expressed all
over the world, Now that the moons seems to be of a quite different
nature of what was assumed, the Americans and Russians are thinking of landing men
on it. Well, that will never happen, not on the Moon,
on Mars, on Venus, on other planets. Yes, but the Moon
is definitely, as I said, a plasma. And there you go,
and there's a few more minutes left if you like to check it out.
That will be in the show description. Of course, a lot to take
away from there, he said, the Moon's plasma. But you can land
on Venus and Mars, which is completely odd. But the way the interviewer
was saying, well, you're not a subject matter expert, you're not boards
certified, it almost goes back to COVID. Well, you're not a doctor.
How dare you have an opinion on this year? You're you're a silly
conspiracy theorist. How did that work out? You know that has been the
mantra for so many decades. Well, if you don't have a doctor in
front of your name, or if you don't work for the government, you
don't know anything. And very interesting. A lot to take from that interview,
and again it's in the show description if you want to check it out.
That was from nineteen sixty five, and of course four years later on
the two hundred and first day of the year that they fake landed on the
Moon. And of course that guy, I'm sure he caught all kinds of
you know what, right, Okay, going on to the next email tent
ten, just give me a second, guys, here we go. I
wanted to reach out and say that I'm a huge fan of your content on
both the Fact on our podcast and the Flat Earth Files, as well as
the approach you take when discussing flat Earth topics and the conspiracy theories. Listening
to the Ted Kazinski episode which by the way, Spotify removed it for some
reason or another, which he had to find on podcast Attic and I actually
published that on Rumble. The manifesto and his predictions really made me wonder is
he speaking into existence of future he does not want or was he actually that
tapped into the world and the way things were headed, and he really saw
where AI in technology was really headed. If you haven't read his manifesto,
I think at the end of that podcast I played, there's an audio version
of the manifestos like two and a half hours. He goes on. He
says he really nailed it in regards to leftists, the insanity of university professors,
and the brainwashing that is happening in the post secondary education. In my
life, I would never have thought Americans would buy into communism. But when
you understand human nature and how to poison from within, it goes to show
that anything is possible if you understand how he him in nature works. And
indeed, if you take if you look at the Communist manifesto and the ten
planks, they've pretty much done all ten, from education to property to everything
else. Goes on to say, my parents left communist Russia in nineteen seventy
two and met in Winnipeg, Canada in nineteen seventy six. In nineteen seventy
eight, I was born and embarrassed that my generation was allowing these things to
happen. You know, I'm going through this. We've had a lot of
I may have read this in the last podcast if I did, I am
so sorry, but I'm going to continue reading it anyway, because there may
be people who have not been caught up with this. He goes on to
say that he was embarrassed that my generation is allowing all of these things to
happen when we're the ones supposed to be leading now. Even my father was
completely bamboozled by the government funded news media, the CBC and believed everything that
they were saying during COVID, even with he's screaming in his ear about the
propaganda in nineteen eighty four Russia, he would often call me on the phone
over a thousand miles away and tell me that I was putting him in danger
by not getting vaccinated. And again, as I read earlier, you know
the White House was pushing that same mantra, you're putting your family in jeopardy.
Right. Our media miraculously made the Trucker convoy about white supremacy in Nazis,
and anyone who supported it was obviously racist and evil. It's embarrassing how
easy it is to fool people nowadays. Indeed, it certainly is enough about
that. Let's talk about flat Earth. I would say that I am a
flat earthers. I am a flat earther, excuse me, but lately a
voice inside keeps reminding me that the more I am sure about something, the
more I am likely to be wrong. And he began his journey accidentally with
the Brazilian jiu jitsu, and of course Eddie Bravo is big into that.
So the emailers started listening to the Tinfoil Hat podcast with Sam Tripoli and I
guess they had Eric de bayon and they were discussing flat Earth. At first,
I listened and thought they had some interesting points, but they were hilariously
ignorant. But I'm a pretty big math and physics guy, says he was
an electrical engineering technical assistant for a while, so I started to actually look
at the numbers and the calculations to easily disprove them, as we all have
done. And when I heard that gravity wasn't real, my brain almost exploded.
So I started digging, digging, excuse me, into the curvature calculations
and looking at the speeds and distances that they claim. It is all completely
ridiculous. There is no way the Sun is ninety three million miles away,
and the fact that they pretend to know how to calculate that distance is insane
and random at best. Indeed, one and again, when you go and
have a chat with somebody who doesn't believe in flat Earth, they can't answer
any of these questions. You ask them, how far is the moon,
how far is the sun? How fast are we spending? How fast are
we chasing the sun? They don't know any of these things. Just say,
oh, you're silly, because that's the way they've been programmating. That's
the way we where we were all that way at a a certain time.
Long story short. In schools they pump you so full of garbage that you
don't have time to think or question. You just accept it and move on.
That is the Rockefeller way. My epiphany came in September of twenty twenty
two listening to Eric Dubai say on a YouTube video or a podcast that we
aren't random space monkeys with no purpose. That triggered me to open the Bible,
excuse me, to the first page of Genesis and just read the story
of creation as it was for the first time, and the light bob just
went on so bright my whole body lit up. School and science do everything
they can these days to take us away from the true story of creation,
right that we actually think it's a fairy tale. This explosion happened, and
we started crawling up on the beach and became monkeys, became people, and
we just happened to be here. And we could be hit by a meteor
any second, or there can be nuclear war at any second, and all
of this can just end. I considered myself a person of faith, and
then it hit me how many other people consider themselves people of faith but don't
even believe in the story of creation that should be the foundation of our faith.
In almost the entire population thinks it's a fairy tale now, but not
flat earthers. Do you know how I know that flat earth is good because
it brings us closer to God. Certainly does. Even if there are a
bunch of things that we're getting wrong, something that brings us closer to God,
especially in these times that we're living in now, is definitely a good
sign that we are on the right track. I'm not trying to say that
I'm positive of anything, but I am positive of God being our creator,
and that is an awesome foundation to have. And he did end with his
six silver bullets certified time laps. Image of the stars revolving around polaris something
that disproves gravity. You know, the electrostatic things. The flights we've talked
about many times. That always you know, if you're going from South what
was it, Johannesburg to Australia, they always stop at like Dubai. And
on a globe, these stops don't make any sense. We heard in twenty
twenty two there was a lady I think it was from Hong Kong to UK.
The lady died and they flew for another eight hours or six hours or
something insane. What turns out on a globe, they're like, you could
have stopped in all these places, but when you look at it on a
flat earth, they were flying over Russia in twenty twenty two, they couldn't
stop. If I can find that link, I will put that in there
for you to check out. That's a big one. That is an awful
big one. Justin Trudeau saying the Earth is not flat in twenty twenty three.
Anything he says, right, it's got to be the opposite. And
he spent it looked like he was at a fire. You know. One
of the local cities fire companies, and he was speaking in front of the
fire truck and just saying how dangerous flat earthers were right, you can't have
critical thinkers at this junction of our timeline. They're putting us in harm's way.
It's just silly showing someone that gravity was invented in sixteen sixty six.
The Earth flies around the Sun at sixty six thousand, six hundred miles an
hour, the axis of the Earth being sixty six point six degrees, on
and on and on. So there you go. And if I did read
that before, I'm not going to say I'm sorry because it's such a great
email, but I may have read it on the last one. I think
I had it checked and I just didn't take it off usually anyway, long
story, short, great email. Anything that brings us closer to God is
a great thing. And the numerology involved, by the way, if you've
never taken the time to look at the numerology at the Washington Monument, convert
those measurements in two inches and see what numbers you come up with, and
tell me that's not nefarious. I mean, everything about DC is evil.
If you look from the top view, it looks like an Owl, the
Washington Monument, the Fallust, the Numerology, and that all the sixes.
I have done an entire episode on it, but we're not going to do
that today. So there you go. And again, thanks for that.
I'm pretty sure I read it before, but it's just a great email.
Thank you for that. All right, let's move along. I have a
couple more. Here we go. Hello, I found your podcast when it
showed up as a recommendation on Apple podcast. I've heard. That is so
interesting because my other podcast you will never get a recommendation, and this one
people are getting recommendations. It's it's crazy. I've retired from the Army after
twenty two years. Thank you for your service brother three years ago. I
literally tripped and fell into flat earth in twenty seventeen while station in Florida.
It was primarily Rob Skiba, rip you are, Misser and Mark Sargeant.
I was raised a Christian and remained in the church my whole life. Interestingly
enough, I had an epi theologically right before I fell into the flat earth
rabbit hole. Both epiphanies left me asking myself, if I believe my Bible,
then this must be true. And I have been lied to. I
can go more into that if you wish to have me on your show,
which we will be bringing him on the show anyway. My older sister is
mostly awake but hasn't gone fully flat Earth. She is of the mindset that
she believes her Bible, so this place is at a minimum geocentric, so
at least it sounds like she's getting off the globe. I've gotten one of
my co workers questioning things by starting out with the moon landing, and one
thing I will say, the further we get into time, the more phony
that the moon landing looks. Another totally believes the moon landing is a hoax.
But when it comes to flat Earth, the cognitive dissonance is strong.
There are so many clues from flight paths, which we just talked about planes
not descending it approximately one mile every two minutes, because again, if we
were on the globe, the plane would constantly have to be nosing down right,
common sense gyroscopes, and the list goes on and on and on.
Works in law enforcement, and just last week he shared flat Earth with an
individual who I think started crying. It's emotional. There's so many emotions involved
with this, and I know, everybody within my voice understands because the first
big one that's really hard to get over is my goodness, you know,
what is real? And then that's when most people turn and said, well,
God is real, right, and we have just been We've bought into
worldly things. We believed the guy on the news, we believed again the
Rockefeller education system, which you know, I had some great school teachers.
Mister Ryer in tenth grade was a lovable guy who was a good man.
My history teachers I've always had, good man. I wanted, you know,
one of my plans, you know, in the early two thousands,
mid two thousand, I'm going to retire and be a history teacher. I
loved history. I could break down the Battle of Bulge like nobody's business.
And then you find out it's all a lie, and the flat earth is
the big one, that's the punch and the gut. Everything is lie.
But at the same time, once you recover from that, right, it's
almost like you need the surgery and it's, oh, my goodness, and
then you're healed and you're all better and you're free. You it's the best
you felt in a long time, and it's probably a terrible analogy, but
it is. And you know, to be able to share that with somebody
and for it to hit them, it's it's powerful. My mom asked me
why it matters, and that's that's a big question people. Why does it
matter? I still got to get up and go to work tomorrow, right,
My daughter's still sick. I still you know, my house is upside
down, you know, financially, car insurances through the roof. I'm working,
Tujia. Why does it matter? It matters because you're not a random
individual. You were put here for this timeline, and you know, I
again, you just turn away from worldly things and you just become consumed with
the Bible I have, right and just learning about the truth. That's all
we want is the truth. And it seems like, man, is it
really asking that much to be told the truth? And then you realize,
you know who's running things down here, and everything is a lie, and
that's why you've really got a scale back. Well, I need to relook
everything, even some of the silliest things that I thought were just come on,
man, that's really French conspiracy, which there is. But you still
have to take the time with your critical thinking skills and kind of go in
and debunk it yourself and not That's the biggest thing I've taken away from this
from becoming a flat earthor for lack of better words, right is I'm not
going to listen to anyone tell me that something is ridiculous. I'm going to
prove it for myself. He said. Again, he says, my mom
asked me why it matters, He says. I like to say, if
they can make you believe that you're on a ball spending it a thousand miles
an hour, revolving around the Sun at sixty six thousand, six hundred miles
per hour, hurtling through and ever expand space at millions of miles per hour,
you don't really matter. But if we're on a plane covered by a
firmament, this place was created for us, we matter. There's a creator
who made this for us. This doesn't belong to the United States government,
This doesn't belong to Rome, this doesn't belong to the people in you know,
we could go on and on and on to the folks north of the
border. That doesn't belong to Justin Trudeau in the government. Okay, God
made this for us, and like I was, I felt like I cut
the federal government out of my life, Like why am I stressing? Why
am I arguing my best friends about the left and the right? Like during
that whole thing in twenty twenty in twenty sixteen, people got all caught up
and left in the right and friendships were lost. Who cares, It doesn't
matter. They're not looking out for our best interest. There's no difference between
Lindsay Graham and Diane Feinstein or Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer or they're all the
same. They're all the same. We matter, and this belongs to us.
God made this for us. God didn't sign this over to the government,
and then the government turns around and signs it over to the states,
and then the states. By the way, way back in the day,
they actually had something called the Homestead Act. We're going way back to the
Holy Cow mid eighteen hundreds. They were given away acres and acres to everybody,
and it was successful. Then of course you know how it goes,
Oh wait, we need to federalize this, and that's exactly what happened.
They ended up federalizing it and ending the Homestanding Act officially. Actually it was
just in nineteen seventy six, and that time they just federalized everything the federal
government. You know, it wasn't a big enough monster, so they had
to take over that as well. That's something I probably need to do a
podcast on my other side there. He makes an interesting point too, there's
a creator who made this for us for you imagine think about this. Imagine
what that would do to suicide rate's mental health. That's why it matters.
Let me ask to all these to everyone who's listening to my voice right now.
How you know when you came into flat earth? And again, a
lot of the emails say how it brought them closer to God. But you
know, I become a happier person. I'm not saying I was a miserable
person before, but I mean it's true. That's a great point. I
think it makes. It does wonders for our mental health. That's why it
matters. He said, as I'll leave you for now, I could go
on forever. God bless keep your head on a swim. Thank you very
much. I appreciate it, and I think I have one more I wanted
to share, and we need to. I smelled dinner. I'm ready to
go eat it says, Hello, George. I found your podcast about a
month ago, and I've listened to most of the episodes. I've always been
a conspiracy theorist air quotes, according to my family and friends, but never
even considered the idea of flat earth until recently. Honestly, I kind of
got to the point I was like, Okay, every other conspiracy I've research
is legit, so what's next. I have an acquaintance on Facebook who was
a flat earth and always posts silly mains memes excuse me that I tended to
chuckle at and move on. But one day he posted a list of Bible
verses that supported flat earth, and as an avid Christian and Bible believer,
couldn't help myself but look it up for myself. Five hours later, I
was hooked. I remember absolutely feeling like my mind was blown. I spent
the next few days completely ignoring my mom, wife, farm duties, and
just completely immersing myself in this research. I used to teach science and history
and junior high but quit when I had my firstborn son six years ago.
I never went back and I never will. I am absolutely horrified at what
public schools teach our children, and I won't allow my kids to be exposed
to that. I just started homeschooling melodist. Congratulations, but we are doing
a super laid back curriculum. That's awesome. Let the children be children.
Right. We have a homestead and spend more of our days outside, working
in the garden and taking care of our animals, and that are there are
some of the greatest life lessons and some of the best memory wherease your children
will have. My kids are learning through life skills, so I'm not as
concerned with bookwork at this age. However, both of my boys are obsessed
with dinosaurs, as like she says, most little boys were. You know,
we all had the little you know, play figures and walking around and
stopping on the soldiers. Right, says I fed into the obsession because I
too have loved dinosaurs. And I remember, I think I was in fourth
or fifth grade and we took a field trip to the Smithsonian Institute in DC,
and I remember seeing those bones and thinking wow. And I was looking
right at it and thinking, man, that is from like fifty million years
ago, and it just being in so much awe. And then once again,
when you start to break things down, maybe not so much, it
says. My belief has always been that there were dinosaurs, but when God
flooded the earth, they all died, save for the few deep water dinosaurs.
As a child, I obsessed with doctor Kent Hooven's work on dinosaurs.
I now don't agree with a lot of what he said, but I never
thought dinosaurs weren't real at all. However, I see all over the flat
earth community that comments about dinosaurs being part part excuse me of the hoax that
they were created to help push the evolutionary agenda. That makes sense. However,
the theory that they all died in the flood makes a lot of sense.
Anyways, I was wondering if you touched on this at all on more
recent podcasts. I think we have recently in the last couple. But and
again, thank you so much for the email, and thank you very much
for listening to this podcast. I greatly appreciate it. And so obviously with
the date, if we believe our Bibles were only you know, six or
seven thousand years old, and if you go to Google, everybody bust out
your Google machine. I'm busting mine out now, and you put in when
did dinosaurs roam the Earth? And the answer you'll get doing this in real
time. The non bird dinosaurs lived between I'm sorry, lived about two hundred
and forty five and sixty six million years ago in a time known as the
Mesozoic Era. This was many millions of years before the most modern humans.
Now again, you have to if you pop open your Bible, it doesn't
say anything about, you know, let there be light. There was light.
Let there be pterodactyls. There was pterodactyls, And yeah, is this
audience asleep? I thought that was pretty funny. All right, thank you.
It just doesn't make any sense. And of course the meteors and this,
that and the other thing. I think, No, listen, maybe
there were these great animals that lived pre flood. That that is reasonable to
think, I guess, right, But obviously the timeline doesn't add up.
That's a big red flag. It does tend to lend people to believe more
lies, right, because the Bible says we're six to seven thousand years old.
They tell us that they were around hundreds of millions of years ago.
They tell us the Earth is four hundred and fifty four million years old.
So there's a lot of gray areas there that we don't agree with, where
there are a certain beasts that don't exist. Now, sure that it is
completely possible, one hundred certainly. But going back to July twenty fifth,
our guest Gary Wayne will be on and talking about Genesis sixth conspiracy and the
nephelum would could these be nephelum bones that they're trying to hide so people don't
learn about something biblical? Could be right? And man, there's still a
couple more, but I've got a I'm going to stop for now. You
know what, I'll read this last one. It says, I hope this
email finds you well. I'm a relatively new listener. I started with your
most recent episodes and decided to start from the beginning. I'm on episode eleven
now. I firstly want to thank you for what you do. You break
it down extremely well. And those of my friends and family who are open
enough to venture down this rabbit hole, I suggest they listen to your podcast,
among a few others, so I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm glad.
I'm glad I read this email. I've been looking through different sources and
the footage of lasers across vast differences, distances is something that is clear in
my mind that disproves the globe theory due to the lack of curvature, and
that is the big one. We can see too far, thank you Nikon
p. Nine hundred and p. One thousands, or should I say non
exist curvature? Is the mainstream opposing view of this really a mirage or a
refraction? Right that the famous newscasters what you're seeing is a mirage, a
refraction. Of course it's a lie. He said he saw footage on Taboo
conspiracy channel of the footage from Israel to Crete, so I am copying and
paste it now to make sure I put that in the show description for y'all
to check out. There we go. This is the longest distance I've seen
so far, and I wondered if there were any way to replicate the laser
test or any kind of test, if we had another person in crete on
those mountains. I noticed someone mentioned a flat Earth app which I've been able
to which I did send him. He's got the flat Earth app information,
and again I will put that in the show description because it also has like
a flat Earth friend finder which listen at may or may not be a few
more bucks I don't know, but you can find it there. He says.
I'm sure there are finer details to work out, but he's going to
be increte for two weeks in July, and I thought, there's a chance
to perform one of these tests. Why not make it? Why not try
to make it happen. It may be that the light will not be able
to travel the six hundred and sixteen miles, and if that's the case,
I wonder if there's something else we can try. But he talks about he's
never been decrete before. He's going for a wedding and he's hoping. I
don't know if we have any listeners increte, but he is looking to see
if there's someone over there who would be willing to assist him with this laser
test while he's over here. He's based in England, and he said,
feel free to use my first name. So this email is from Aaron.
He was born in nineteen eighty nine and his brother and he both question nine
to eleven shortly after the event, which is good, right because at that
time he would have only been you know twelve, that's crazy most people were,
so, you know, the fear based mind control, you know,
you can almost compare. I know a lot of folks weren't alive during this,
but the Challenger explosion, they literally every school they had TVs in every
single classroom across this country. We all witnessed that explosion, and that was
done for a reason. The planes flew into the buildings on TV. The
buildings collapsed before our very eyes. Those two events were this huge mind control
events that were done to evoke certain emotions. And if you dare say anything
about it, right, you're just you're not American and you're one of those
crazy conspiracy theorists. But he says he spent we spent our teams looking into
conspiracies, but flat Earth with a step too far for many years for both
of us. Over the last few years of the COVID scamdemic reignited my desire
to find out the truth. And I'm sure one of many in this position.
There are many people aware of what's happened over the last few years,
and they know how to independently research to get a closer version of the truth
than they were told by corporate media. And the more they try to silence
you, the more there's a chance it's true. There's an old saying that
if you're catching fleck, there's a good chance you're over the target. Right.
However, many of these people would still find the ideal, the idea
of a flat earth crazy and will not even entertain the conversation. Absolutely,
I would say, if you again the old test, if you stood in
front of a Walmart and asked one hundred people, hey, can I talk
to you about flat earth? Eighty of them are probably going to roll their
eyes and say, I've got shopping to do, I've got things to do.
I don't have time for your silly flat earth stuff. Right. But
yeah, he says, I have a feeling consciousness shifting. I agree,
And people are becoming more open to the conversation. I certainly hope so.
But I mean it's true. Look at all the emails you have people who
have been new to this is just for weeks and in an emails, so
they are. And again I do believe a lot of it goes back to
them overplaying. Covid says we are in for an interesting few years, that's
for sure. I would say between now and twenty thirty, we are in
for some very interesting times. No, forget next year is an election cycle.
So it will be interesting for sure. How to wrap it up there,
folks, I had a few more to get to where I'm just out
of time, but again I wanted to come on kind of officially kickoff season
two. We'll have our first official podcast of season two in just a couple
of days, either Tuesday night or Wednesday, and then another one Sunday,
another great interview with one of our listeners. Thank you guys for your continued
support. Again, if you did email in asking to be put on,
and if you're wanted the early folks, just check. There's still a lot
of people I haven't got to, but do me favor if you did,
just check your spam and see because there were some folks who I have interacted
with and then I just they kind of fell off. So if you change
your mind, that's completely fine, no big deal. But I don't want
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Keep your head on a swivel, folks, and until the next time
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