1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,559 What Up Everyone, Welcome back to the dragon Ball Virgin Podcast. Thank you 2 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:12,080 Omi for resubscribing. We are here to discuss episodes. I'm going off the 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,560 top of my dome here, but I believe it was seventeen to thirty three. 4 00:00:15,839 --> 00:00:21,000 I think those are BacT ones, and we are going to discuss pretty 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,600 much the majority of the Baby saga, and then we're going to finish the 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,800 Baby saga and cover all of I believe it's called Super Android seventeen saga after 7 00:00:31,079 --> 00:00:34,159 that, and then we have one more which is I think the most hype 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,920 one, which is the final Saga, and then that's it for Dragon Ball 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,119 GT. Not a long series, but definitely a memorable one and one that 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:50,840 whether you love it or hate it, you know it's infamous. Everybody knows 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,679 that. Everybody references it. What Up phase ape, whether in good or 12 00:00:54,679 --> 00:01:00,320 bad contexts. So let's just start it off ray. How are you feeling 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,159 about Dragon Ball GT? Now? Was did you like the direction it went 14 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,840 compared to the first season? Absolutely? Yeah, I am. I was 15 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:15,599 pleasantly surprised with the direction it went. And obviously we get the continuation of 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:22,719 the previous story that was happening with Euro but this whole thing with Baby was 17 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,920 pretty interesting. I don't think we've gotten anything similar to it at all in 18 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:34,120 Dragon Ball, Like maybe Captain Genu was the closest. It's interesting. Yeah, 19 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:37,560 there's funny. We have a we have a chatter called Ray of Tempests. 20 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,280 So it's like it's it might be one of your fan boys. Probably 21 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,079 not, but might might be one of your fan boys. No, I'm 22 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,799 excited hopefully it is. But yeah, I mean I like the direction that 23 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:55,319 it went, and that whole situation with baby's really interesting. So yeah, 24 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:57,319 we'll talk about it. Yeah, and you know what's interesting about it too, 25 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:01,400 is that it seems to be it seems to be related to some stuff 26 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:07,360 I've seen in super So it's interesting how I feel like Super redid some stuff 27 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,560 um that GT did, but maybe in a different way. Thank you Phase 28 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:16,680 Ape for the one hundred bits says Goku is my favorite monkey. Yeah that's 29 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:23,879 that sounds like some Freezer would say right there. Yeah, theting the baby 30 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:29,520 stuff. Also there's a bit of the of the mogin vegeta from Dragon Ball 31 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:32,639 Z right, because it's not the same because it's not really vegeta, it's 32 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:36,560 just Baby taking it over. But I kind of had those vibes of like 33 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:43,520 a badass vegeta villain again was brought back right, Um, and yeah, 34 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:46,280 I liked the fact that now we're reaching new levels of power compared to Dragon 35 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:50,639 Ball Z, which is I think one of the things we were both noticing 36 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:55,599 in the previous arc where you sort of they weren't really progressing or anything. 37 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,479 Right, it was just like, all right, let's go Super to beat 38 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,400 this guy. Let's think somehow to beat this other guy. And he never 39 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:07,719 even had to go Super stand three. Yeah, the power of scaling was 40 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,120 really off, and you spoke about how in Dragon Ball Z, I shouldn't 41 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:16,240 be even Super, shouldn't be too focused on power scaling, but this one 42 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,759 is very obviously GT is very weird when it comes to power scaling. But 43 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:27,599 um, like even um the General General Willdoor whatever his name is, like 44 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,759 they said he's more powerful than maj and Boo and it's just like that's just 45 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,879 so weird because that's not that is not true. Yeah, exactly, so, 46 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:42,639 No, it's weird how they decide that just a way to hype up 47 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,680 that character. And I wonder what's kind of stuff because we watched them dubs 48 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:50,719 so I wonder what kind of stuff is like pretty much specific to the dub 49 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,599 or if they're actually signing this sub But that's one of the reasons why this 50 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:59,240 Probably that's one of the reasons that this isn't canon, because they might just 51 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,240 say stuff like that, like, Yo, this dude is stronger than Boo. 52 00:04:03,319 --> 00:04:06,719 Let me beat him as a super Scianum and the kids. So yeah, 53 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:13,039 that's that's bullshit. But then we get some interesting baby stuff, baby 54 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:18,199 progressing forcing Goku to get the Golden Zaro or Golden Great ape form, which 55 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,399 we'll get to. That's pretty much where we stopped off when he turned into 56 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:27,519 the Golden ape And yeah, actually this had a lot of end of Dragon 57 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,160 Ball Z Boo Saga vibes to me, because you have Boo brought back, 58 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:36,199 right, you have Goku training with the Elder Kai instead of Gohan with the 59 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:44,120 way Gohan got Ultimate Um Ultimate became Ultimate Gohan. So yeah, now they're 60 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,319 bringing back When we were saying it almost felt a bit like they were trying 61 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:54,480 to redo Dragon Ball First Dark but in space with the with the previous arc. 62 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,959 This time now it feels like we're getting into the Dragon Ball Z territory. 63 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,360 Again, Yeah, I totally got the I just want to say thank 64 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,120 you Dpeach for the raid. We were talking about Dragon Ball GT the baby 65 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,240 saga for everyone, But yeah, totally got that change of tone. We 66 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,800 were talking about last week how beginning of GT seemed very dragon Ball asked if 67 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,160 they go into their ventures, they try to find the dragon Balls. The 68 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:25,680 dragon Balls in these episodes were a lot less important like finding them, and 69 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,839 it was more about, like you mentioned, the fights, like more stronger 70 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:34,120 antagonists and more at stake. I would I feel so, um, Yeah, 71 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:36,959 I totally got that change in tone where it was more Z like, 72 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,560 Like you mentioned the training. Even the training in this one was kind of 73 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:46,279 weird with the tail, but it was still training nonetheless. So yeah, 74 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,040 yeah, so there is that with the Dragon Ball GT. Um. But 75 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:56,879 at the same time, I feel like the Gohan becoming Ultimate Gohan was also 76 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,399 weird, right remembered the Elder Kai just dancing around him. So it's not 77 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:08,199 something new to GT because Z does it. But you're right, it was 78 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,319 weird as fuck, whether you're just pulling his pulling his tail. By the 79 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,800 way, what up Ultimate Cell in the chat? Yeah, So I just 80 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,800 I thought that was interesting It was interesting when he pulls down his pants too, 81 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,040 and you don't know for sure, like he's refercing the tail and he 82 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,920 has this kind of sprout, the skin sprouts douse. It didn't even look 83 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,120 at like a tail at first. Right by the way, I apologize now, 84 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,759 thank you for the donation. Yeah, no, I think, Um, 85 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:42,519 definitely, it was weird, but not so weird that I could you 86 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,199 know, it felt similar to how weird it was when Elder Kai created Ultimate 87 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:54,399 go On for sure. So yeah, at the beginning of this whole thing, 88 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:00,399 we wrap up that story where they're on the other planet. We talked 89 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:09,160 about doctor mu Um being that antagonist and like scientists and um like that whole 90 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:12,240 thing. He looked like doctor Jiro again another nod to drive a ball z. 91 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,920 But then it turns out he was created by baby to create baby or 92 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,079 whatever. Yeah, I know it. So it seemed just so unnecessary in 93 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,319 the story to come up with that weird kind of history. Yeah, yeah, 94 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,920 that was that was interesting. But m Yeah, and the thing I 95 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:38,040 was talking about, which is super actually did was with the whole you killed 96 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:41,839 my race, the sayings killed my race. I'm gonna get revenge because we 97 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:45,519 had that with Baby and if you remember, we also had that with Granola, 98 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:49,839 right, yeah, And I'm pretty sure I don't know if it was 99 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:55,639 because what's babies people? Like, what are they called again? Babies people 100 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,079 that I don't I don't know what off the top of my head, I 101 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:03,800 will say like, like, yes, a fertile. So I'm pretty sure 102 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,959 they were one of the people in the reference in Super when it came to 103 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,120 like the universe fight as, I looked them up, and I'm pretty sure 104 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,519 they were referenced in Super. Oh nice, bro, I love it when 105 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,480 you look stuff up. I'm just like, that sounds familiar. That's pretty 106 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:26,439 sure Tough were referenced in Super. So it's interesting how they build off of 107 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:30,079 this GT idea into Super and they're like, yeah, we'll keep like this 108 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:35,919 race the civilization, yeah, like adopted. Yeah deep Deepeach is right, 109 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:41,200 she says um or Deepeach says toughl parasites um and phase. Thank you for 110 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,600 the sub Yeah. So I think it's an interesting idea, right. I 111 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:48,799 do think it was kind of because I assumed it would have to be in 112 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:56,440 one body and it was kind of cheap. How even if let's say they 113 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,919 pick specifically Vegita's body because he's a strongest, you could still control everybody else. 114 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,639 Like that was kind of like cheap, you know what I mean? 115 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:13,159 How to fuck that this race die out if you could do that? Yeah? 116 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,960 Is that what their technique was though? Or was it just specifically? 117 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:20,679 I don't know. I don't know how much we're given. But Baller in 118 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,960 the chat says Baby is one of his or one of their favorite villains in 119 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:30,120 the entire Dragon ball So yeah, that's an interesting that's a big thing, 120 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:33,919 and I think we both agree that Baby has to be the best villain so 121 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,200 far. To be fair, the bar is low and the other ones just 122 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,559 sucked, like they didn't suck, but like they weren't interesting and they kind 123 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,919 of sucked. But Baby is the first one where it's like, okay, 124 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,279 taking over Vegeta, Okay, coming back, okay, attaining new power, 125 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:56,279 crazy vegeta, white haired form, pushing Goku to go beyond stronger than he's 126 00:09:56,279 --> 00:10:01,440 ever been before, even as an adult. It's interesting stuff, and you 127 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:05,960 gotta think you reference how it reminded you of masin Vegeta. Do you think 128 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,159 the writers were kind of like, hey, like obviously mash and vegeta was 129 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,720 like it got a lot of fan hype. It wasn't really drawn out that 130 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,879 much either, Like he wasn't predominant character in that art because he obviously self 131 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:20,759 destruct. So where they're like, hey, let's kind of piggyback off that 132 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,519 idea and make it so it's obviously different. We can't do the same thing 133 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:28,000 where they harness like their evil energy within. It's got to be something different. 134 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:33,399 But I should just start making it so like it's the protagonist fighting other 135 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:39,120 characters who are in the like within the what's the word Z clans, that's 136 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,320 not the right word fighters? What are they called Z fighters? Yo, 137 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:48,240 Phase, Thank you so much for the donations today, another two hundred bits. 138 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,039 My favorite villain is the virus that kills Goku. Yeah, that that 139 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,480 villain. That's that's the crazy shit like because that was a bit too real, 140 00:10:56,639 --> 00:11:00,600 right, and they worked around it, which is a bit of a 141 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:03,919 tangent, but just yeah, imagine all the fighting, he goes through, 142 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:07,279 all the strong opponents and then a fucking virus kills him, you know what 143 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:13,039 you're referring back to the yah, Yeah, so I mean that was like 144 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,639 a bunch of real life shit. Which obviously, because it's a shown then 145 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,440 they're not gonna stick with that. They're gonna save Goku. But yeah, 146 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,600 I'm just thinking about like this great martial artist who put in so much work, 147 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,440 beating all the best opponents and then just you know, gets a heart 148 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:31,440 virus so to speak, or something like that, and just that kills him. 149 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:35,080 Right, So yeah, that to that part got really real. What 150 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,240 you be go ahead, I was gonna say, I got kind of virus 151 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,480 vibes as well. It's obviously not a virus, but the way Baby he 152 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:50,120 says, he kind of like implants like his cell within these people and then 153 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:54,639 remember like trunks Um and even I think goes in at one point like they 154 00:11:54,639 --> 00:12:00,720 turned back to normal, but then eventually, like the cells multiple and then 155 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,399 they're eventually fully taken over. So I did get like Baby wasn't a sense 156 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:11,200 like this viral specimen who you know, basically implanted his cell within these characters 157 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:16,120 and then was able to gain control once the virus has multiplied. So that 158 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,639 was that was another interesting kind of It's definitely creative, but I mean I 159 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,879 think it works because if anyone's gonna be op and makes sense for it to 160 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:28,159 be the villain and then you have to overcome it. And yeah, the 161 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,720 whole time I was thinking, wow, Baby's powers are insane. Obviously you 162 00:12:31,799 --> 00:12:37,639 have the Ube fighting him like surprisingly long, so clearly he wasn't that op. 163 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:43,080 But um still, he looked like he killed our main character. And 164 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,919 did you see like I don't know if I dozed off or something, but 165 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:54,200 did you understand how he went from being like hit by that negative spear bomb, 166 00:12:54,279 --> 00:13:00,120 right, which is which is pretty much what it was that baby the 167 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,000 data throws. Yeah, yeah, baby baby machina sounds funny, Yeah, 168 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,120 the one that baby throws. Like, how did he end up in that 169 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:16,120 game reality? I'm pretty sure doesn't someone end up like grabbing him at the 170 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,799 last minute. It's I think it's the Kai, one of the Kais grabs 171 00:13:20,879 --> 00:13:24,639 him to save him, but then drops him in this other reality. Yeah, 172 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:26,480 it was very confusing. I had to look it up, like the 173 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,440 dude died and then go to a game show territory. I don't think he 174 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,200 died. I think he like he was saved at the last second, but 175 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:39,200 then he ended up getting dropped within this reality by this other kind of reality 176 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,919 by accent, which was like purgatory right, Yeah, Shadow Swing, thank 177 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:48,759 you for the re sub and how to Arcanine says, I like that Ube 178 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,440 was given a decent power level in GT, and yeah, that that definitely 179 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,240 stood out right. And the whole idea of Ub fusing with Magin Boo with 180 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,279 with Fat Boo, I guess is very interesting, right. I don't know 181 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,480 if they'll ever feel the need to bring that back in Dragon Ball Super. 182 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:11,360 But I didn't think that that would be such an interesting part in Dragon Ball 183 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:13,440 GT. But I do like that. I'd liked that we saw Ube and 184 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:20,919 I liked that he got to transform into his final form and became, as 185 00:14:20,919 --> 00:14:24,679 he said, stronger than he ever thought he could by fusing with a fat 186 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:28,519 Boo again. Yeah, and it was a good fight. I think I 187 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:31,759 would have liked him to be a little bit more hyped up, though, 188 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:35,600 like because I'll be honest with when Ube came in, I kind of thought, 189 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,840 oh, like, I know Ube was out there, but I wasn't 190 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:43,559 expecting him to commence. It was a nice little surprise. But he did 191 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:48,200 like struggle in that fight. It wasn't you know he It was back and 192 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,200 forth, and I would have liked I loved the whole thing when Trunks comes 193 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,480 in with Freezer, and I'm not saying he has to like full out defeat 194 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,799 Baby, but it would have been cool to have him come in and just 195 00:14:56,879 --> 00:15:01,240 you know, clean the floor with him for a bit and like just be 196 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:05,320 super super badass. But it was more of an even fight at first, 197 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,559 and then obviously Baby gets the better of him. But yeah, it was 198 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,200 cool to see him. And then that whole situation, like you said, 199 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,080 with boof using was interesting as well. So yeah, because at this point 200 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:22,600 we have I'm just trying to track everything, so we have basically almost everyone 201 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:31,559 on Earth is under Baby's like possession. Right, there's besides Pan Hercule and 202 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,240 yeah, yeah, so except a few people. That was the implication. 203 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:41,399 And it's interesting because they're doing all this stuff Goku does in previous things like 204 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,600 getting energy from everybody, and they just pull it off in like an evil 205 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:50,120 way. So he's absorbing energy from the good guys Z fighters plus the whole 206 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:52,399 planet. He could do that an evil speerit bomb thing. By the way, 207 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,600 I just want to say deep Peach did say that was just a fact 208 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:03,360 check. We go back when he was supposedly died. Dpeach says that was 209 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:10,919 Sugoro and his son he like accidentally went into that dimension. So yeah, 210 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,679 and then they broke out of it, which was interesting, right, breaking 211 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:19,279 out of that dimension, and then the Kai Supreme Kai Fusion came to save 212 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:25,960 him. I don't know. That whole situation. I felt was a little 213 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,759 bit drawn up. It was weird. It was like filler, except it's 214 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:32,679 all filler because there's an a manga, but it was very filler. It's 215 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,759 like, what are you I remember seeing this part on TV way back in 216 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:40,559 the day, and I was so confused. I'm like, why is he 217 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,840 participating in a game show? Yeah? I didn't even It was just weird, 218 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:51,600 and it it lent this image of gt just being a very weird thing 219 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:56,399 in my mind for a long time, because I didn't remember these other parts 220 00:16:56,399 --> 00:17:02,120 of the arc, which have their highlights for sure. But so I might 221 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,920 have not watched that because I'm like a Dragon Ball virgin in this case too. 222 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,640 But I do remember that game show. I caught that episode on TV, 223 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,880 and it's just it's so weird, Like how is Goku instead of fighting 224 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:18,880 people, just participating in a game show? Yeah? And kind of on 225 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,440 that same topic, I mean, this is a little bit earlier on you 226 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,319 talked about how it was just a weird kind of transition having him fall into 227 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,680 that realm, and it's not really like fully explained. Did you catch the 228 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,559 full explanation of we were talking about Giro and how it seemed like he betrayed 229 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:37,839 them beforehand and then it ended up like he had this plan the whole time 230 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,119 with Trunks, Like, yeah, did you find that whole explanation kind of 231 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:47,680 very fast and very Yeah, not really explained why I just accepted it, 232 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,079 but but yeah, it was kind of like all of a sudden, which, 233 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,240 to be fair, I mean, you don't want it to be predictable 234 00:17:55,279 --> 00:18:00,319 either, right, and their defense, but yeah, it was kind of 235 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,559 like Trunks was in on the whole time. We had a fake Trunks, 236 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,880 Like, yeah, it was interesting how they chose not to tell anybody else 237 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,839 though exactly. I gotta know, it's just like you said, you gotta 238 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,000 just accept it. But it's just it was funny how they just came up 239 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,000 with that idea, and the og Zecon appeared in the chat saying wait, 240 00:18:21,079 --> 00:18:25,799 you're doing GT. Yes, And you can check back on the Dragonball Version 241 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:32,559 podcast to actually catch the first episode of GT Virgin where we actually covered the 242 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:36,599 first arc, but I'm preferring this and ray as two. We're getting into 243 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,559 the baby saga now, and it's just much more of what we come to 244 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,680 expect from Dragon Ball, with maybe not the same standard because you know, 245 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:52,680 it's not even cannon, but still a bunch of cool highlight moments. Yeah, 246 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,880 including we haven't mentioned this yet, but obviously GT was all about fighting 247 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,599 the dragon Balls in order for Goku to be I'm an adult, which has 248 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:07,960 kind of pissed me off. To become an adult. Interesting, go ahead. 249 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,480 But when they finally get them and they're like, yeah, let's just 250 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,839 you know, keep them with us, don't make the wish right away, 251 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,039 Who's kind of like, yeah, I could be a kid. And then 252 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:23,359 they end up giving them just so nonchalantly to this really sketchy acting Dande, 253 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:29,240 who right away you're thinking of this is baby and yeah, but to be 254 00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:32,839 fair, how well did they know DNDE or care? But yeah, I 255 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:36,039 know you're right that he did make some mistakes to like point it to the 256 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:41,079 audience that it's not the real hymn. Yeah, so I don't know. 257 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:45,440 It was just kind of weird how they went on this huge epic adventure to 258 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:48,599 find the dragon Balls, and they don't even use them at first, they 259 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,319 hand them over, and then obviously now they're wasted in the sense of they've 260 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,119 been used by Baby to create his own planet and like restore his planet, 261 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,000 and now they've just been spashal o the universe. Then you think to yourself, 262 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,680 is this going to be something where after this whole situation with babies over, 263 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,559 they're gonna have to just go back and find them again. Is it 264 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:11,759 gonna gonna be like Z where the whole adventure is not really going to be 265 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:15,799 Coverage's gonna be them finding the dragon Balls? Who knows? Yeah? No, 266 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:19,359 I I feel like we have like just I don't think it's a spoiler, 267 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:25,200 but just looking at the arc titles, I think we're gonna have pretty 268 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,680 also villain focused stuff because I'm not sure for everyone still wondering, like I've 269 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,359 seen parts, but I'm not sure how this is going to go down. 270 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,920 I haven't seen the whole thing. I know some highlights, I like Goku's 271 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Goku's power ups and stuff like that. I know about that, But I 272 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:48,640 do know that based on the saga names, there's gonna be more big villains 273 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,920 focus. So I think it's gonna be from here on out like this Dragon 274 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,920 ball z who's the next big villain and Goku powering up to beat them. 275 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,599 I think that'll be how we go from here. Yeah, but yeah, 276 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:06,960 I mean we'll see. I admit, like Baby is definitely a step up 277 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:11,279 of course other antagonists that we've seen in drawing ball GT for sure, and 278 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:15,279 like we said, like um, like was mentioned to chat for some people, 279 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:18,440 it's a favorite. By the way, Sam, what up? Thank 280 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,400 you for the re sub thirty three months the mad lad almost coming up on 281 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:29,079 three years being subscribed to the rank up a twitch channel. Boy. Yeah, 282 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,720 um, there were some like I don't know what you would describe them, 283 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,519 but some interesting moments where you had when Baby was taking over the bodies 284 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:42,000 of say like Gohan and go ten. Just it was interesting to see the 285 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:45,559 reaction with their family when they go back, like Go ten kind of pushing 286 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,000 his mother aside. Yeah, almost uncomfortable for me. I was like, 287 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:52,400 yeah, I was like, I don't like seeing Chee chee tree like that. 288 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:59,759 And it's it's weird because it almost has horror story vibes where you know, 289 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:07,240 like aliens takeover people and it's that surreal kind of experience where you when 290 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,519 you see Boma being rude to Trunks or Chee Chee or the Dell being rude 291 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:17,240 to Pan, it's just so unnatural that it's it's freaky, Like I can 292 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:22,759 see why that's a trope often used in h scary movies, because it's like 293 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:27,680 they look the same but they're actually like completely different and evil, and it 294 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:32,799 just feels off. There's that uncanny feeling. So I think they did that 295 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000 well. Yeah, and there was one other moment I was going to mention 296 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:41,200 where this was obviously oh under the kind of spell of baby, but he 297 00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:45,839 ends up taking Pan and like strangling her, and it just left me feeling 298 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,720 so so weird about Yeah, what the fuck? No, for sure, 299 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:53,720 and like Zekin says, and we mentioned it's cool that Baby has a connection 300 00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:57,480 to the science, so there's a reason for the hatred um and the dragon 301 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,039 Ball Super definitely you know, did it different, but brought that in with 302 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,359 Granola as well. And yeah, I like that saying building on saying history 303 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,519 stuff, and this is very much going back to the saying stuff and Dragon 304 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:17,559 Ball Super does it in a different way, different direction. But again here 305 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,240 we're doing a focus on the tail, which before it's like dragon ball Z, 306 00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:26,759 we don't need it. Now Elder Kai is like, okay, let's 307 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:32,359 bring that tail out for you to achieve this new power. And so it's 308 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,240 the Golden Ape. But who knows what happens after that. Now, Ray, 309 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:40,039 I want to ask you, just off of the intro to this part 310 00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:42,720 of the arc, did you see any crazy things that stood out to you? 311 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,480 Or were you not paying attention to the intro? The intro? Like, 312 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:52,440 what do you mean the opening song? The old Yeah, like just 313 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,319 the opening song? You know how every episode has has the opening song playing. 314 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:03,400 Because the streaming thing I was watching it off of actually skipped the theme. 315 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,200 I went, okay, so perfect, all right, good because there 316 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,440 are some spoilers and I was like, I do not want to see this 317 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:15,599 or Ray to see this before it actually happens. So that's perfect that you 318 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,599 didn't see the the intro to these to this arc in its episode. I'll 319 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:22,279 try to avoid it frothing. No, yeah, avoid it to use whatever 320 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:26,000 you've been using because there's a big thing coming up, and um, I 321 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,759 don't want you to be spoiled for it. That's weird. Why would they 322 00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:33,799 do that. How would they include spoilers in theme? I don't know, 323 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:41,559 like maybe to build up the hype, but at the same time for our 324 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,880 purposes, for the Dragon Ball Virgin purposes. I just want you to be 325 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,160 surprised when it happens. So that's that's why I don't want you to see 326 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,319 it. It wouldn't like ruin your day if you saw it. But just 327 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:02,519 I do want the initial wow factor to h to be captured on the episode. 328 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,119 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean we'll see, um, 329 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:11,000 we'll see what happens. I thought as well, we were talking about seeing 330 00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:17,240 different characters within this show. It was funny to see Krillan and just how 331 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:22,799 much of a maybe, how much of a Yeah, he's so old, 332 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,480 Like what the fuck? Because andro at looking good man. She doesn't look 333 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,920 and she doesn't look like exchanged a bit, which is you know, could 334 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,240 be just part of her nature. Yeah, um, but which good for 335 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:37,160 Krillin, you know, like he'll be an old man and she'll be looking 336 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,960 fine. She has best girl. But holy crap, they aged him like 337 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:47,400 card and they made him such a pushover. He looks like a grandpa, 338 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:51,240 not a dad. Like a grandpa. He's trying to get into line like 339 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,720 the line there, and they cut him off and then he ends up going 340 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,039 like back there and she's just so over him, like she's kind of like, 341 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:02,400 oh, this guy's pathetic. It was kind of sad to see because 342 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,759 we were talking about how the relationship even in Super remember the relationship is so 343 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,240 good there. Yeah, yeah, they end up supporting each other and now 344 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,640 I like it. She's mean sometimes, but at the end of the day, 345 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,279 like you know, she's got his back and you know, yeah, 346 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:21,480 I just it's a great relationship. Um, but yeah, you don't want 347 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,079 to see her being too mean to him, you know. Yeah, But 348 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,839 it's interesting to see him because he's been completely like invisible so far, and 349 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,480 even like other people like Yeah and Tienne, we haven't seen them at all, 350 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,559 even though they're not that relevant, but they come into play within Super 351 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,680 like even a little bit of Tien was one of the wasn't he one of 352 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,279 the fighters that go with him? Yeah? So yeahm cha, don't I 353 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,319 think actually I want to say Yamcha No, no, Yamcha doesn't, but 354 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,839 Tiana does. Yeah, So it's interesting they just accepted the yamtra narrative that 355 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,000 he's like useless. But he's gonna base ball though, which is good. 356 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,599 There you go. I do want to say, um Zecond said something which 357 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:07,119 I thought was funny. Um he said, here's a question, though, 358 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,599 did Baby bang Boma? And they're acting like he did? You know what 359 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:18,000 I mean? Have you noticed that obviously obviously Boma is baby like, she's 360 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,640 part of the she's been parasite eyes or whatever we wanted, she's been taken 361 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:30,079 over. But yeah, like they do have a weirdly human dynamic with like, 362 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,920 yeah, go ahead. Would he be forticating with himself though, because 363 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,640 it's technically baby is No, Yeah, I think technically yeah, but no, 364 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,279 I don't think they do because he's just an alien. But like they 365 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:48,319 act very much like you know, she taken over Bomas like super into uh, 366 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,119 taken over with Geta and they're like this evil couple and it has an 367 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,599 interesting dynamic to it. Yeah, what did you think of the esthetic of 368 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:03,319 vegeta and he ends up evolving there that kind of final form. I almost 369 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,119 I almost preferred the pre final evolution esthetic because it doesn't really look like vegeta 370 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,799 anymore. No, you know what, the white hair and the eyes and 371 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,359 yeah, I think it's cool. I kind of liked the vegeta with like 372 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,680 a new form almost because it wasn't super say it was white hair, so 373 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,119 I sort of liked that aesthetic. Now he kind of just looks like his 374 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,240 own thing, not really Vegeta anymore. So yeah, that's that's kind of 375 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:33,319 what what stood out to me personally. Yeah, yeah, I mean I 376 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,599 kind of got the same thing because when he evolves to the last part, 377 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,839 he has that kind of vest thing on. It's not it's not a vest, 378 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,400 but like, yeah, he doesn't have that saying luck to him anymore, 379 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,960 whereas before it was the armor I think was broken or something like, 380 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,240 he had that kind of he looked more like Vegeta, And then I kind 381 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:56,279 of liked that. I liked the idea of here's this villain that takes on 382 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,839 the kind of identity of Vegeta and looks like him. So it's kind of 383 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 like, remember we talked about we want that fight of finally Goku versus Vegeta. 384 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,079 Yeah, and we want that aesthetic, like to be able to see 385 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,759 the two of them fighting. But yeah, Goku is like a boy, 386 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,400 and then Vegeta is does not look like vegeta. Oh it kind of takes 387 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,799 away from that. Yeah, it's not. No, Yeah, I wouldn't 388 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:23,079 consider this a fight between Vegeta and Goku at all. But I do think 389 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:27,519 there will be more Goku Vegeta moments, so we can look forward to that. 390 00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:34,119 Even in GT I do. I do also think like some of the 391 00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:41,240 filler parts, and by filler, I just mean like not necessarily progressing the 392 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:48,160 plot, just funny moments. It was funny when Vegeta shaved because his daughter 393 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,279 made fun of him. I think Ullah or someone made fun of him, 394 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:56,519 and he's just like all right, time to shame, which was pretty hilarious 395 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,400 considering his pride and like bad boy behavior. Yeah, I thought that that 396 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,759 actually got a laugh for me. Or a Vegeta being like this protective or 397 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,839 protective father, Yeah, I like on the road, and they do that 398 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:15,079 well at Dragon Ball Super as well. Yeah, well with Bomo, right, 399 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,759 because obviously the daughter is oh yeah, I guess super The daughter is 400 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,240 really young, right, but this is like the teenage daughter now she's older 401 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,480 daughter. No, yeah, for sure, you'd expect that from Vegeta. 402 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,480 What else, what are you thinking about the the Golden Form, the Golden 403 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:41,839 ape Form, Yeah, it's interesting because I've thought about this possibility like before, 404 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,720 Yeah, like why aren't they going super saying with the great ape Form? 405 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,359 Well, I thought about, like, you know, the ape form 406 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,559 is like the regular saying kind of technique to power you up, to put 407 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:57,839 you over the top, and like, is it possible if you're super saying 408 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,839 to be able to go through that form? Because obviously the only super stands 409 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,359 we've seen I have to think back to Brole has a tail, right, 410 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,519 Braley, Yeah, yeah, so it could definitely be a possibility with Brole, 411 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,799 But most of the sayings we've seen, like Vegeta, Goku Trunks, 412 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,839 none of them have tails, so we haven't had that possibility. But I've 413 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,960 thought about, like, what about something like Browley is this kind of if 414 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,480 you see if he's able to like transform into the ape and then go super 415 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,000 sand and he have that aesthetic. So it was interesting how they ended up 416 00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:37,200 doing that. Now I guess I know it ended with him just transforming into 417 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,759 that ape Would he have like autonomy over his mind or would it be like 418 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,839 last time where like the ape form ends up being in control more than Goku. 419 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:53,279 No, I think they'll yeah, because guys, if you didn't like 420 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,000 notice the exact episodes we covered. We covered right to when Goku transforms initially 421 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,039 into the Golden Ape, and there was some momentous moments where he was thinking 422 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:08,279 back on his adventure and you saw him looking at Earth because for some reason, 423 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:12,759 they're not on Earth, They're actually on another world that baby is like 424 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,000 creating, and so Earth for some reason acts as a moon to Goku so 425 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,880 he could turn into an ape. And he sees like all these memories of 426 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,160 old school ten from Dragon Ball, old school yahamtra old school chee cheep, 427 00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:29,519 and he's kind of having a light flashing before his eyes moment until he finally 428 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,799 starts the transformation. And that's where we stopped, when he turns into that 429 00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:36,200 gold Ape. So I don't think so, like, maybe there will be 430 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,519 some of that initial stuff, but this was sort of hyped up as his 431 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,640 ace in the hole, so I assume eventually he'll gain control, even if 432 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:52,480 initially he's just destroying everything. Yeah. I mean, it's an interesting way 433 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:57,440 to go because I like the idea of GT adding something unique and it's not 434 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,039 just not that it's unoriginal, but you know how in super you're just getting 435 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:05,880 to the next form and the next form. This is a very different kind 436 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,079 of approach where they have this throwback. They kind of go back in time 437 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:12,759 and you think the eight form at this point is kind of irrelevant. Like 438 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:16,680 it's it's more about staying into that human form and going into you know, 439 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,799 like we said, the next Super Saying, which is pretty much the direction 440 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,680 Super took. Yeah, yeah, but here, it's just it takes that 441 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,400 different approach where we, you know, we bring something up that we thought 442 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,480 was maybe irrelevant at this point, and even at the time when like he's 443 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,880 training with the kais and he's like, the only way for you to be 444 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,200 able to be competitive against babies if we pull out your tail, and you 445 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,119 know at that point you think, okay, well that has to be in 446 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,039 order for him to turn into like the beast, like the monkey, because 447 00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:51,559 why else would they have the tail? The tail is that weak part that 448 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,119 the Saying had before that held them back. So why that's interesting too. 449 00:33:54,519 --> 00:34:00,440 It doesn't seem like they're going to make make of that the weakness anymore. 450 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,160 It's it seems like it's going to be the strength. It's the strength. 451 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,880 Yeah. So yeah, it's just an interesting approach they take. And I'm 452 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,719 curious to see, you know, the abilities there, like can he can 453 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,800 he power up like a super saying in that form, he's obviously really big, 454 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,760 so he's a lot bigger than the human form. Is he going to 455 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,519 be shooting out the energy waves out of his mouth like the like the Beast 456 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:28,239 did before? Yeah, it's a lot of the thing is it loses some 457 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,840 of that martial arts aspect to it. Yeah, so we'll see how they 458 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,519 handle it, right, because that is something we love from dragon Ball. 459 00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:39,400 And although you could be like, bro, it's kind of stupid that he's 460 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:45,400 there's so many transformations. I mean maybe and there are some series that don't 461 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,320 need it, but I mean it's something we love in dragon Ball, right, 462 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,280 the transformation. So I get the fact that they keep those going, 463 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,400 you know, because yeah, I don't know. I think it's more how 464 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,559 they do it with dragon Ball than not doing it because it's hype. It's 465 00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:06,079 a high part of dragon Ball and why not why should they not use their 466 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:10,360 strength which is coming up with cool transformations and cool forms. Yeah, And 467 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,280 the thing I appreciated was super when it comes to the transformations is unlike Z 468 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:20,400 where everything's just so linear, like you know, you go to the next 469 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,400 form. So if Goku goes to one form, Vegeta or Gohan have to 470 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:30,639 get to that form like Super makes it where they go on their own unique 471 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:35,920 transformation, like Vegeta versus Goku, and I do appreciate that how it's not 472 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,079 just this linear path anymore, but they're able to Yeah, No, I 473 00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:42,159 really loved that, and that was only recently in Druggon Ball Super so yeah, 474 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,639 but like, yeah, I really like that with the new form and 475 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:52,960 stuff. Obviously we're referring to Vegeta's ultra ego form. I do want to 476 00:35:52,079 --> 00:36:00,000 say that Zeken actually mentioned I believe that we stopped right before the hype episode, 477 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,159 So there's huge hype right now. Right We're not only going to cover 478 00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:10,840 the climax of the Baby saga next, we're also going to be covering the 479 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,719 Super Saiyan seventeen. No not super saying let me just see the official title 480 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:22,199 of that saga, Super Android seventeen saga. So it's gonna be episodes thirty 481 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,719 four two. Let me just scroll down through the bottom episode forty seven, 482 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,119 So thirty four to forty seven, and then there's one more saga, Shadow 483 00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:36,679 Dragon Saga after that, so only two more episodes of dragon Ball GT. 484 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,920 On the Drug Ball Version podcast, I don't know for sure if we're gonna 485 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,480 do next week because I think we're gonna do anime version next week. So 486 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,440 me and Ray will still talk behind the scenes about whether we should do it 487 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,039 on a Wednesday or whether we should just like postponent until anime version takes a 488 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:57,920 week off and then just do Dragon Ball GT Virgin. So we'll see how 489 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,480 we do it. But that is the that is what the next episode will 490 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:05,639 cover. I'm very excited we are headed towards the climax of Dragon Ball GT. 491 00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:09,039 I know there are many amazing highlights. Even if you know the storytelling 492 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:15,280 for many people is not on par with what you'd expect from Dragon Ball, 493 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,920 there's still hype moments, moments that hype me up, moments that for some 494 00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,400 for some fans, as as one person mentioned Baby being their favorite villain, 495 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:31,519 there are stuff that's literally people's favorite coming up in Dragon Ball GT. So 496 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,000 definitely get excited. Ray. I wonder too, at the back of my 497 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:43,119 mind, is Pan going to be like super relevant in the way of fighting 498 00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:47,000 at any point, because yeah, she has built z built her up to 499 00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:53,519 be someone who could be on a different Z or Super Z or Super. 500 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,719 Wasn't it Z Well, when she was fighting at the tournament in the end, 501 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,559 I'm trying. I don't know. I'm trying to think I thought like 502 00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:06,079 she was someone who because she was really in dragon Ball Z. Right, 503 00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:10,159 Yeah, the potential is there for this this character to be like yeah, 504 00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:14,480 I don't think they had like soup like a bunch of stuff. I know 505 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,280 she didn't go super Sayan. She fought in the tournament at the end in 506 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,800 the final episode, and that in theory, Gohan was stronger because there was 507 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,840 something about being half human half saying, and so you could say that Pan 508 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,559 special too, because she's like a quarter saying. But I think they just 509 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:38,159 dropped that idea. I don't think that. But in dragon Ball Super you 510 00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:42,519 do have moments where like baby Pan is flying and stuff that are hyping her 511 00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:46,000 up. I really do If Dragon Ball Super goes that far, I do 512 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:50,719 want to see at least the super Sayan Pan you know, yeah, I 513 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,599 think that would be cool because we've only seen one other like woman Super saying. 514 00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:59,960 It was in Super. Right when they end up seeing that planet, 515 00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:04,440 that's well, it's not just one. It's not just one because there was, 516 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:12,559 right, yeah, yeah, yeah girl who yeah yeah her and uh, 517 00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,800 I want to say khalifa, but that that's that's the wrapper. I 518 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,320 don't know if it's similar to that. I know it's similar to that, 519 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,239 but it's Kala Khalifa or something. Yeah, but yeah, I want to 520 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,880 see it pan ends up panning out. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, let's 521 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,320 see how how she pans out? All right? Cool, guys, Thanks 522 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,400 again so much for tuning in a bunch of donations today. Thank you guys 523 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:43,880 so much. Keep on keep an eye out. We will be finishing GT 524 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,199 eventually. Just not sure if it's gonna be like the timeline right now, 525 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:53,239 but we'll figure it out. And until next time, see a space Cowboys Bang