The two weeks ago, on episode four seventy eight, tonight's guest came on
and shared several dog me and encounters he's had with us. He's had more
experiences than the ones that he's shared on that show, So I asked him
if you'd come back to share those experiences and answer some questions I have for
him. So on tonight's show, he's going to share those encounters he didn't
have time to share with us and answer some questions. Of course, I'm
talking about Mike col Antonio. Mike, thanks so much for coming back.
Thank you for having me. Oh, you're welcome. If you've had a
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Sighting dot com. Mike, last time around, when you told us about
those encounters that you shared with this, there are several that you've had that
you didn't mention. Would you mind telling us about those? Now? Yeah?
Sure, there was one that happened and I normally don't give locations,
but that more or less boils down to my protection of the Sasquatch. These
dog men, I don't really have any relationship with them where I feel like
I should, So I'll just dive right in and tell you one of them
was at an asylum more or less, which has been turned into a place
where you can come in the daytime. Now, it used to be a
place. When I was a kid. It was. It's called King's Park
Psychiatric Center, and it was in connection with Pilgrim's State Psychiatric Center. But
Pilgrim's State is still somewhat open to this day, and kings Park is not.
And it used to be a place that we would go when we were
young, about you, young teenagers, And we would park far away and
sneak our way onto the property and find some of the big scary buildings and
find our way in if we could. And if we could, who had
the most guts to stay in the longest, And obviously, you know,
you tried to scare each other this than that. But little did we know
how much could have been possibly lurking in there. You know, we were
under the impression that at the worst we were going to come across maybe somebody
who was less fortunate and didn't have a roof over their head and might be
in there and might protect their you know, domain. And that was pretty
much as far as we thought. We didn't really necessarily even ghosts or anything
like that, but it was always said that it was haunted and because of
all the history and things that have happened there, from women dropping their children
out of the high story windows and things to that effect, and you know,
just very many, many, many horrible, horrible things that you can
hear. And I did actually work in a Pilgrim's state for quite a while
as a housekeeper, and I did go into multiple wards and there were some
things that go on in there that you know, you most people might not
be able to handle. Now pass forward to many many years later, which
is about two years ago, I was protecting it still. I was calling
it the Forgotten Land. I believe I was categorizing it as I've come up
with little names for places to protect locations. And remember coming through the woods
and I went through where I had parked. I went through the woods and
I came down and I had found some structures and things, but they didn't
necessarily look like they didn't look man made, but they didn't look like the
normal sasquatch things I'm used to. So I was kind of confused, but
I went about my business and made my way through, and I came up
and the other side it was it was down like a big bowl, you
know. And I came up the hill on the other side to one of
the huge, huge buildings, and these are massive, very very massive,
massive buildings. And I was scanning it and go near it, and you
know, just kind of filming it as I went. And I got close
to it, and a couple of times I had panned back towards the woodline,
and then you know, we turned back and would film the building.
And I was making a video from my chat on YouTube, and so I
was just talking and kind of somewhat distracted. But I had seen something behind
me and it didn't quite look right. But I again, I know I've
said this before, but I have to reiterate, we don't have there here.
We do not have coyote or wolves here. So if it's doesn't look
like a deer, you know, or it's a bigger than a deer or
hairrier than a deer chances are it's a cryptid and hence why I call it
the cryptid playground. So you'd imagine it's abandoned place with all these places to
go, and even underground tunnels that are exist from us might be even more
of a playground. But I remember when I came back, I turned back
and this particular one you can see it. This dog man is standing there
staring at me, and you can size him up next to the tree,
and there's a fire hydrant there. And as I went, you know,
earlier, down into that fishbowl of a wooded area and then came back up
the hill, i'd say to climb back up the hill across the board was
about a ten foot drop, and you can see as he just backpeddled,
he or she, I'm not sure, but as he or she just backpeddled
down down the hills, she just kind of faded away because I was on
a completely flat surface. But as I have my camera on it, it
must know that I'm coming back towards that way and that my camera's on it.
Was it watching me? Was it stalking me? I don't know.
That's that's kind of up to the listener and the viewers discretion, because I
don't have an answer to that, but I do know that that was a
sighting of what I would category as a dog man for sure. That being
said, that was pretty much the last time something happened there for quite a
while. And then I was back with another guy and he comes out with
me sometimes and he's one of my morning guys. He likes to come out
and as long as we go out early early, he's down. And that's
one of my favorite things to do, is go out, you know,
pre sunrise and trying to catch everything nocturnal that's going back and everything that's waking
up coming out. And my theory is that that's kind of a cryptid shift
change as well. So there was this particular time we're out there very very
early and we were watching the deer. We didn't see the dog man at
all, not at all. It was as stiff as a board and it
was hunched down. I mean, just like a dog would lay say,
you know if a dog saw a rabbit in your yard and it laid down
and just kind of stared at it and didn't want the rabbit to know it
was there, and it even put its tail down because it didn't the wagon's
tail and give it stuff away just like that, just like a sheep dog
would, you know, like just went straight down. But we didn't see
that part. We just saw it down at this point because as we were
watching, the deer crossed through this same fish bowl area of woods, the
same exact one is last time it cross cross crossed, and we're watching it,
and then as it almost intersects, we see we see the dog man
there and he is laying there and he is mind you, just dead still,
and it let the deer go by, and we just kind of decided
to address it, speak through it, each other about it, and we
decided to take our quickest leave in the other direction out of the tree line.
And you know, that was that whole location in a nutshell. There
were other ones that occurred. One was in my and talk. I thought
I was looking at a sasquatch. Turns out it had it had some pointy
ears on it, and it doesn't quitely pick the bill for what for what
a sasquatch would be, And I thought it might have been a juvenile sasquatch.
But there's so many different things out there that you have to really really
you pay attention to detail, and sometimes sometimes right away what I want to
be there might cloud my judgment because I'm like, oh, look it's a
big poot. Yeah, but then it's it's not. And on this occasion
I think it was. It was. It was not so that being said,
it didn't move it. It pretty much looked like it wanted to be
as it wanted to project itself, to be as much of the log as
it could be. It wasn't necessarily you know, in the log or on
the log, but it was directly with it. You know, I had
itself proportioned perfectly against the color. It was the one tree in the entire
place that seemed to match its coat perfectly, you know, because the tree
happened to be dead, I believe. And that was the other time,
and again it just was something that we looked at. I called my buddy
over, I said, hey, do you see this? And he was
like wow, man, Like I don't know how you take these things out,
Like he's like, how do you see them out of all the woods?
Like how do you just hone in on them? And then I said,
you know, I do this every day, but I just said do
you see it? And he says absolutely, and I said, what do
you think it is? He said, I cannot explain that to you,
and I said okay. So I called over another guy and I said,
hey, do you see this? And he, you know, with the
same, you know, the same breath, said like, oh my god,
like I don't know, and I said, okay, all right,
thank you, Like I just kind of wanted some confirmation because I don't usually
have confirmation. So I appreciate you guys. And those were probably the two
that maybe we left out last time that I can think of off the top
of my head. VIC what happened at Stoneybrook. Stoneybrook has these huge,
huge, huge grounds and a lot of places are unused. And I won't
give a specific to where it was, necessarily because I don't want anyone to
go chasing this type of stuff down, especially at night. But there is
some sections that are very very much unused and very very vast, vast woods,
and they have a lot a lot of grounds between it being a university
and major hospital and dormitories and different clinics and a lot of things. And
I think a lot of people don't realize how far their property extends, and
it might scare some people as well, because it does butt up against some
residentials, and you know, maybe some of the places that people frequent liked
the hospital or the school. But that is where one of those encounters happened.
Actually, it's where the whole thing started. I was bluff charge there
and that's where I pulled my blade and silly, you know, I don't
know why I thought, and I was gonna do something in that situation looking
back hindsight twenty twenty. And I made my way to the road. I
was trying to get to the road where there was those It was that long,
long street that went back there with nothing but woods on both sides,
and it had street lights on it though, so in the pitch black,
it kind of felt like it was safe. And I remember it backfiring because
as soon as I got onto the road, I had this half a second
of feeling safe before I turned around and noticed that the eyes were looking at
me. And they could see me even better now because I kind of just
put myself on display like a mannequin at Macy's or something. Yeah, they
had to be awfully creepy, seeing the street lights and the streets and these
big buildings but they weren't in you, So yeah, probably do give you
a false sense of security. Right those few buildings that are brand new up
in the front, there are multi million dollar buildings, and then you come
all the way into the back and it's just it's probably a good mile or
two of woods before you get to this section, and nobody really knows it's
back there. It looks like it's all an off limits area. It's got
a guard booth and it has a turnaround point which makes you look like you're
forced to turn around. But if you do push through all that stuff.
And I found it by accident, originally by walking. I just was walking
through the woods. I didn't know where I was until I hit the back
and said, WHOA, wherever am I? You know what I mean?
And I had to find my way back and kind of that's when I learned.
But other than that, you know, I don't think I would have
ever originally done it with my vehicle either. I would have been deterred by
all the signs and the turnarounds and the no trespassings and the and everything that
they have along the way if you're in a vehicle, but being me,
being on foot, off trail and not knowing you know, where I was
going. It didn't phaze me at the time. It does sound like an
awfully creepy place after dark, that's for sure. Yeah, it definitely does.
When you saw that dog me at a King's Park Psychiatric Center were going
down into the fish bowl, it sounds to me like you weren't bothered by
seeing that dog me in. Is that accurate? So I wasn't. I
wasn't necessarily sure if what I saw I was what I saw, and I
sure, and I really really sure knew I got it on footage, and
I really, more than anything VIC did not want to go to the edge
of the top of it, yeah, and risk it being there to like
maybe rip me down into there. So yeah, I continued to go the
other way and kind of pretended, like you know, I was. I
was almost pretending like I didn't see it as not to draw attention when you
want the other direction. Did you ever get the impression that was trying to
follow you? I don't think I did too much. I've become very good
at kind of shaking things up and like putting this kind of like protective shell
over myself as much as you do this. You have to You have to
kinda learn to shake things off quick and adapt quickly and learn not to show
any fear, but also not let your guard down. So more or less,
I'm making the best decisions to make it home safely, being that it
didn't do anything threatening, and being that I didn't see it the whole time
I was down in there. But it was down in there, I figured
it didn't really want much out of me except maybe to keep an eye on
me, and wondered why I went through its area. So my thought process
was to kind of go the long way round and kind of get up out
of there. And you know, whether it was watching me or not.
I'm sure it was. I don't have a doubt in my mind, But
there was no like sense of like it was stalking me or anything like that.
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Mean Encounters dot com Ford Slash Podcast. Let's talk about that sighting you had
at Montauk. Now, I didn't think that there are all that many trees
in that Montauk area, But I could be wrong. Do they have many
forests? I know, I know it's a very misunderstood area. Camp Hero,
I believe is man. I want to say it's I know the pine
barrens are one hundred thousand acres. I forget how big Camp Hero is,
but I want to say that might be undred thousand acres itself too. I
might be wrong. I might be shooting over high with that. I'd have
to check my numbers. But there's a camp here itself has a lot of
woods. That's a great big state park. Then there's chad More. I
believe there's hither Hills as well, and it is a very very heavily wooded
area. There's a lot a lot of hiking trails as long as you can
deal with the bluffs up and down. And it's not mountain hiking, right.
It's not hard because a lot of it's similar to like a flat land,
but a lot of the trails have sand under your feet, and it
really it makes it harder to hike than a hard ground, and it really
puts a good workout on you, like, in a different way than just
hiking a mountain trail or hiking with a solid ground. So yeah, but
there's a lot out there. It's just not very Our hiking trails aren't very
sought after, I should say, huh yeah. Listening to you describe how
that area is, it sounds like it's totally different than I pictured it.
Do you think the dog me and you saw there that was up against that
log was doing that because it was trying to hide from you or because it
was stalking you. That's a great question. I suppose that speculation again,
right mind you, I was going there too. When I go, I
do. I go in search of these things, and I put out a
certain vibration, so trying to attract them, you know, trying to attract
the other worldly, if you will. And sometimes these other things come back
and it gets their attention too. And it's not necessarily something that I looked
for, but it's also something that I'm expecting. I'm expecting other things to
kind of poke their head up and look and say, well, who's this
guy coming through here vibrating at this frequency? And who kind of knows how
to get on our level? Like who is this guy, and I assume
that they're going to poke their head out and take a look. Sometimes I
do think that they are just really stalking humans, and they truly are,
and they want to see what we're about. Maybe, you know, maybe
they have a interest in us where we are something that they want to take
out as far as a food source. But that, to me, that
would be all speculation. I really don't have any solid answers, and I
try not to let that fear side of things, even though as much as
I've been through, as much as I've seen and as much as I can
take in a bad way and really just want to hide from all of them
and forever and holdest fear of them, I also want to learn how to
show a respect and understand it if possible. And while dog Man that might
not be my Bryan, I am interest. They're right there, you know,
they're right there, and they're really growing on me as far as interest
goes, because I'm very amazed by them as a whole, Like how did
it become, How did it become that they were part dog part man?
How are they there living right amongst us? How are they just getting by?
And what are they doing? What are they eating? How are they
not getting seen by more people? You know? And I do have people
that come and report things to me, and I do do wish that they
would more people would come forward. But the fact of the matter is I
see them so often that I can't imagine there's not more people bumping into them.
As far as do I think it was stalking me and following me,
I don't think so on that particular occasion. I think I just kind of
what I think, I've just kind of caught it off guard and like saw
it where it was. Maybe it was resting, maybe it was just hanging
out in that particular area. But again, I'm just speculating. It's very
hard to say a lot of people out there would answer those questions you just
pose by saying that they're demonic beings. What are your thoughts on that.
I don't think they're demonic, you know, demonic beings. I have a
big protection around me, and it's a white light protection. And I have
this, you know, thing in my back pocket that I say, oh,
you know, that's always ready to go. Because when I tell you
right now, when you come across these things, you better have something recited
that is if you want to say a prayer or something, you better have
something ready in your back pocket that's recited and prepared, because you are when
it happens, it's gonna do. You're not going to uh, you know,
and I'm an next soldier. You're not ready for that. There's nothing
that can prepare you for it. So muscle memory is the best weapon.
And as much as I keep around me and you know, healing white light
and energy and positive stuff, and they still come close and stay near.
And I wouldn't categorize them as demonic at all, and not even a little
bit, but definitely something to keep your eye on. I don't know if
I would say they're a safe thing or you know, don't or let your
guard around them, that they're not something that can be unpredictable and can come
after you. But I think they just have their lives and they're just doing
their thing. They're on the hunt, and they hunt amongst us, you
know. And if we were on the menu and they were demonic and to
do a lot more terrible evil things, and I think we would have a
lot more reports of that. That makes two of us. Let's move on
to the encounters. He told us about on episode four seventy eight. Now,
when you had your first encounter in the Pine Bear Ends, did you
go out there looking for Dogman or Sasquatch that time and going back a long
way? Right? And I had tunnel vision back then. I thought everything
was a big foot, right, And you know, people had been coming
to me occasionally in saying Mike, there's a lot of stuff out there,
like you gotta understand, like there's a lot of stuff out there, and
I'm like, no, like it's not like that. You know, I've
seen a big foot and everything I saw that didn't belong it was a big
foot. And that's what long big foot was, bigot big foot, big
foot. Right, everything was big foot till I realized how much it is
out there. And that particular time was one of those, you know,
welcome mats of dog Man, and I could not put the tunnel vision on
Sasquatch because dog Man that day made it so very well known. So to
answer your question, I was not looking for dog Man. I always like
to look for analogies or metaphors, whatever you want to say, symbolism.
So you have I believe you have areas where these sasquatch, dog man rake.
I don't even like to say all these things names because I don't like
to bring them into my world. But there's stuff out there, and I
think they like to all do their own thing, and they all have their
own little ways in their own little lives. But I also think that there's
what I call cryptid community is where similar to like an African Safari show where
David Attenborough is narrating and he's showing the lion herd over here and the elephant
herd over there, and the gazelles on that side, and the bat boons
and the cheetah is in the tree, and you know, the wild boars
are here and the zebras are over there. But guess what, they all
have common ground on some level, and they have to come into these areas
like the watering hole. And I do think in some cryptid and elemental world
there is something like that. You know, it's like the watering hole.
And I don't care where your beliefs are, whether it be a just a
watering hole, or whether it be a portal, or whether it be something
different. I believe there's areas where they are in all active more so and
in some areas where they are spread out. Pine barrens is one of those
places where all bets are off and it's just a mixed bag of everything.
And a lot of the things out there, I think, are more or
less not used. They are more used to not being around humans. So
when a human does come through, and a human comes by himself, no
less. I left myself pretty open to that encounter. When you think back
about the bolt of fear that you felt when you first saw those dog men
and the pine barrens, how did that compare to the fear that you felt
when you saw a sasquatch for the first time. Very similar, I guess,
but it was on such a lesser scale. The sasquatch when I first
saw him, I dropped to the ground and cried like a baby and screamed.
And I was not ready. That was the first thing I ever seen
anything like that. I was not ready. And when the dog men were
that day in the pine barrens, when they were making their moves, it
was it was almost like it wasn't enough to register because they were going so
fast and they were at the time, I didn't understand the distraction methods that
they used and it was working. So when they would get me to look
left, I would and they would move on the right, and vice versa,
and so on and so forth. And it was very tactical, you
know. And again I'm a military guy, so I know tactics, and
they out tactic to crap out of me, and it was very very you
know, I was outdone. I was very very outdone. You know.
I have no other better way to put it to you, Vica, is
that they were a unit. And that's what kind of made me fear the
most was how outmatched I was and how I had no chance but to hopefully
be able to backpedal out before they you know, made their move. And
of course, as you guys know, this is when I believe I've seen
a sasquad show up, and it was I started to get telepathic messages to
go to go to go, and they were gonna It seemed like they were
holding them off, kind of sending them off for the moment for whatever reason,
because when you see this big things show up, it was almost like
they kind of submitted to it for the moment. But it was like like
say, say, you're you own a bunch of hunting dogs, and they're
not necessarily trained right by you. But but there's a rabbit running around circles
in front of them and you're telling them sit, stay, sit, stay,
sit stay. There's only so long before you know, one of them
is gonna jump, like the offensive line on the New York Giants and getting
all offensives, you know, and then the rest are gonna go. And
that's what I think I was dealing with it. That's kind of what it
was, but I was I was the recipient. Well it goes without saying
I sure hope that's not what was going on and what would have happened if
you would have stayed a second longer? But I guess we're ever gonna know.
He told us about the guy who asked you to take him out with
you, and they researched in the bearings. How sure were you that he
was going to be able to keep his composure though? If things went sideways
on that particular time, he was ready to come out, and he was
very willing to come out, and I wasn't sure what to expect. But
I was very ignorant back then, too, but I did know that there
was a lot of stomping going on. He was just I have a certain
methodical way I go about almost as if I'm in somebody's house. I don't
step on certain things. I try not to, you know, go too
far a trail if I do. I'm very very similar to Native Americans,
you know, I even if it's telepaskally, I ask every tread I passed
for permission to pass, and every branch and leaf I go under, you
know, thank you for letting me pass through safely. And I appreciate you.
And you know, it's nature's home and when I'm in it, I
want to be part of it and not be separated from it. And this
particular guy was banging around quite a bit and doing some very abrasive things.
And when we were leaving, that's when, you know, the what sounded
like those packs of dogs were coming, and I knew it was time to
go. And when I seen the things going up, the eyes go up
and down. In those couple of times, I think his composure was very
well kept because he didn't understand the severity of what was going on. Most
people, maybe, I think, would have been very afraid and wanted to
get out of there with a sense of urgency and move with a sense of
purpose, but I think it was more or less excited about it, you
know, and didn't realize the risks that were at hand until the point where
I had to literally just say, like, we need to go and you
need to get in front of me. And I started to feel very responsible,
you know, I felt responsible for a life that might not come out
of those woods. I know what I signed on for it, but it's
it's another thing to have other people out there with you. It can be
very nerve wracking because if something happens to that, how do you walk around
with that? You know. One thing's for sure, Mike. You don't
frighten easily, do you. I hear that quite oft, dude. I
get startled easily. Let's put it that way. Like if if a cat
jumps out of you know in the movie, you know, the scary one,
like that part scares me, you know what I mean. But like,
I'm very about my wits and I know my surroundings and things like that,
So I am. I do get startled, I guess. But as
far as being frightened, yeah, I don't get frightened easily, you know,
I'd say, you don't. Yeah, that's pretty clear speaking of that,
A lot of people listening are probably wondering, why the heck you go
back out looking for dog man after having that experience were one was possibly breathing
in your face, why did you? Oh, Well, trauma there's two
types of people. One that goes and never never goes back in, and
then one that has to go back in and get answers right. And the
only reason I started going back to those particular places was to go through my
trauma. Right. I had to go back there. It would have haunted
me. It would have haunted me forever if I didn't go back and go
into that same area again and see that nothing happened that time. And that's
that was my way of healing. I learned that, you know, to
heal through trauma, you have to go right back through it. That's not
step one, but it's part of it. And I guess somebody's got to
do it, right. I guess I'm a little bit crazy, you know,
but but I enjoy it. It's my passion. I feel like I
have purpose again, you know what I mean. There's not a lot of
people that I think really can do the boots on the ground and being that
I have this ability and fortitude. I guess I do enjoy it. I
like it. I like it. It's my thing. I already liked you
a lot before you started talking about these experiences, but the more you talk,
the more I like him. I like even more so I'm impressed I
him. What you said kind of ties us into this next question. After
having more than one encounter with these guys with dog men, were you at
serious doubts about the odds of you living through the experience. Has there ever
been a time when you've wanted to go into the woods but couldn't do do
your fear of them. Yes, of course, people laugh at me when
I would I would go camping, right and I started camping, like,
for instance, at campgrounds, and then I started to break out a little
bit and start to go, you know, into areas that were close to
my vehicle, and then I started to eventually work my way out. But
I was saying, I'm practicing for when I have to go out. People
kind of like giggle, like, what are you practicing camping? And I'm
like, I'm practicing camping because I know that these cryptids are there, and
I know that they tend to flock to me for some reason, some way,
somehow, right, and it's not always the ones I'm looking for,
so right now and kind of practicing and again that muscle memory kind of building
up my goal, building up my ability to be able to sit out there
and know what could be. Basically, you kind of look like the fish
tank at night. You know, you to cut off the lights in your
house and you got your fish light on in your tank when you're in a
campfire in the middle of a mountain, and that's what you look like to
the you know, everything out there. It's like they're walking around their house
and you're like the little fish tank all lit up, and like, you
know, they probably walk by and tap the glass. You know, we're
like, you know, basically throw a rock in or do something. Again,
I'm trying to make some kind of similarity here, but you know,
there isn't always one. But there have been also times where you know,
I've been scared to go out there, so I had to practice. And
then there were times where I've been scared to go out there because I just
felt like I wasn't supposed to just in general, you know, and I
have to respect that sometimes and I used to not, and that's when I
would seem to get into trouble, is when I would push through like a
stubborn human and say, well, you know, just you know, struck
my stuff. Well, you know what, I drove this far and I
came here, and I'm gonna go in because I you know, that's what
I was gonna do it today. But a lot of times there's a gut
instinct or like something like I call it like the reverse magnet. You know,
when there's a magnet you put together and it clocks together and then they
just don't you know, you'd flip them around and they pom pom pom,
they won't touch. It feels like something like that to me, and it's
you could feel in your stomach and it's very guttural. And those are usually
the times where it's not really fear, but there's something they're saying, don't
do it, don't do it, don't do it. And yeah, I
hope that answers the question. That does answer the question. Back to the
other question I asked you a bit ago about them possibly being demonic beings.
Do you think maybe there might be something to that possibly if they've got the
ability to project that feeling on you that you shouldn't be in an area when
a normal flesh and blood animal can't do that. Do you think there might
be something behind that or do you think it's something else still? Oh no,
I know a deer is looking at me like I even a deer like
I can tell you right now, I can feel a deer looking at me,
and I can turn and I know something's looking at me, and I
turn and there'll be a deer with its eyes locked on me. I don't
know. I don't think it's a demonic thing, is what I'm getting at.
I think that they there's more of a empathic and a telepathic and most
people are in tune with and I've always been empathic, but like the telepathy
thing has become something new to me. So I'm kind of working my way
through it. But I practice reiki again as well, which is like life
energy, and I vibrated these certain frequencies, so things are very easy to
reach me. So I think that's how they get to me, you know,
I think that's how they reach me. But I don't think there's anything
demonic about it. You know. If there was, I don't think i'd
be sitting here calmly talking to you, i'd be doing something demonic, you
know, and uh yeah, I'd be like, I don't know, you
know. I demonic's a very very deep, deep thing, and it's it's
just something that's thrown out there like way too often, perhaps as in my
opinion at least, like just similar like to being attacked. Like, I'm
trying to be very cautious about how I portray this story because I am sitting
here intact, so I wasn't an attacked necessarily, right, So they're very
misunderstood, you know, very very misunderstood, I think, and the more
understanding we can get on them, the more better. But I'm not going
to sell nobody a horror story or a demon story, because that's not what
someone I know, I like the way you think. Are you normally armed
when you go out looking for them? Mike, No, No, not
at all. I do like to have like some something non lethal nearby.
I usually leave it in the car, But if I do feel like I
need, I need like a pepper spray or something for if I'm in the
middle of the mountains by myself. But more of less. I you know,
I've been trained in in a lot of different ways. We won't get
into that because I'm not trying to like sound like I don't want to sound
like a tough guy. But I'm more concerned about humans than anything. And
I can handle myself pretty much humans. And if it comes to us shooting,
you know, a gun down, you know, if it comes down
to ten paces or something like that, and shoot, I'm not doing that
anyways. But yeah, I see what weapons do. I see what guns
do, and I'm not knocking it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't carry.
If you want to carry carry, that's you. That's your right,
you know. I more power to you. But I do not know,
and I'm seeing what they can do, and yeah, it's just not for
me. I think a lot of times. That's why I don't get such
a negative reaction either too. So as they know that. I think a
lot of them know that I don't have a gun powder on me. You're
probably right about that. I don't know how they do it, but they
definitely seem to know if you have a gun on you or not. If
they're not demonic beings, what do you think it is that they get out
of tormenting you and other eyewitnesses the way they do. I don't know,
that's a great question. Maybe they're just bored, you know, maybe like
I'm an only child, but I I'll tell you, like I like messing
with my son, you know, I like messing with my kids. I'm
sure older brothers and older sisters love to torment their little brothers and little sisters.
Maybe it's they're fun, you know what I mean. Maybe like they're
just sitting there and they don't have much to do, and then they see
the human come by, and they're like, oh, like we had to
look at this guy. Look how scaredy he is, you know, like
let's go, let's let's go, you know, shake his world up even
worse, you know what I mean, Like nobody's gonna believe him anyway.
You know. Yeah, that's a good point that might view what's going on
in their heads, although I don't think we would sleep very well if we
actually did know what was going on in their heads half the time. Yeah,
one day, one day, hopefully you got on, they'll just come
out and tell us. Yeah, don't hold your breath on that. You've
had encounters with sasquatched dog men and even a rake, Mike, do you
think they're drawn to you or do you think those encounters you've had with all
these cryptids are just dumb luck, a little mixed combination. I guess,
you know, I think I was meant for this. I was kind of
some people. I don't want to sound like Neo from the Matrix, but
like you know, people say like, oh, I gonna chosen one,
and like it's like, I'm sure I'm a chosen one. I think.
Yeah. So I had a traumatic brain injury in combat and that guy,
and it really knocked everything back to you know, like the reset button.
And I think at that given point, I was able to receive like these
new things, you know, Like it was almost like that's just was my
theory. I think all the brainwashing and everything that was involved with me before
that was kind of knocked lose. And I had never prescribed to anything really
in life. And like it's because I always felt like there was more,
and I always felt like somebody wasn't telling me something, and I always felt
like there was just more. There had to be something more, And I
always say it, there's gotta be more to this nine to five and politics
and people be like you gotta vote. Why, Like what difference is it
make like they're gonna you know what I mean? Like it wasn't. It
just wasn't for me. And when I found this world, this world that's
right here next to war was the one that in fairy tale books, the
one in sci fives smoovies, the one that intrigued me was real. And
even if it was just to the extent of one of those things, the
sasquat, I was like rejuvenated and reborn and to the point where I had
a purpose again, and it was like, Wow, this is actually amazing.
Like I love being out here. I love these woods, like I
love the water. You know. I just went and did something with Champs
Lake Champlain because I just love all that stuff, you know, I love
it all I love. I love the excitement of what might be there and
the fact that I've had the chance to see it. I don't feel cursed
or a demonic thing came and attached to me, or something setting me up
for some like slaughter or something. I think I'm blessed. I feel really
honored. I'm really blessed and really privileged. And the fact that I get
to sit here and share it. You know, obviously the dogman stuffic was
very scary to me, and it was scary in that moment, but I
want to tell people about it because I wasn't harmed, you know what I
mean, I wasn't harmed. So whatever we take away from this, we
take away from it, and that's up to you. That's your god given
right. You can you can do whatever you want. You could take away
from this whatever you want. You could look at me and say, Mike,
you're dead wrong, man, like you missed everything on that and this
is the way I see it, and that's up to you. I totally
respect that. Or you can look at me and say, Mike, I
totally agree with the way you said, and I respect that too, And
that's that's all right as people is to view it the way we want to
view it. But perception has a lot to do it a lot, yes,
it does, you know what they say, A perception is reality.
Considering all the research you do in the field, Mike, what in goal
are you working towards or do you just do it for the thrill of it.
If I can help one person a day, one person, we come
happy. I do it somewhat for both reasons, like it's a beautiful thing
for me. I do film a lot, I do include people a lot,
but there is a side where I do things privately and on my own
accord. And again, like I travel and like I do these different things,
and I get phone calls and I get text from people, what do
you think this means? What do you think that is? And and you
know, sometimes, you know, maybe seventy five percent of the time,
I have had an experience where that's happened, and I can tell them,
hey, well, this is what I think you know, or this is
what happened to me, and this is what I think I got from that.
But I also make sure I let them know it's probably personal, you
know it, Probably the answer probably lies within you. You were the only
one that was there for it. So it's very important to let people take
their own paths and dur and see things through their own eyes. But yeah,
for me, it's personal and I love it. But there are a
lot of people that can't get out there. And I'm disabled better in myself.
I'm just able to move around a little bit, So I understand that
there's a lot of people out there who who can't get out in the woods
or don't want to necessarily, or there's other people who have seen something and
just kind of want to, like go and see what it looks like for
someone who's seen one and then continues to go out and check it out.
And I have all types of people from all different walks of life, from
all different places of the earth. And you know, as you know,
you know, that's how it is have an a YouTube channel. Different people
are interested in different things, and what I do is raw and uncut footage
majority of the time. And because I want to take people from step one
to the last step so that you can see how it went all the way
along away, you know what I mean, And I show you exactly what
I saw and and how I look at it, and what I'm thinking in
that moment, and why I zoomed in on that and what I thought I
might have been and and if we do and when we do see something,
how do we react in that moment? And now you know how long did
it take to get there, how close were we? Did it happen right
away? Where we out there for a while before it showed a face?
You know, there's a lot of data in there to be looked at.
I think I have over two thousand videos now. So one day a doctor
or a father time is gonna tell me, hey, you're done here,
kid, and you can't you know, you can't walk no more, you
can't go no more. You gotta stop and sit down. And when that
day comes, that's when I'll really really delve into my own footage again.
But you know, for now, it's you know, it's my passion.
It's it's very uh, it's what I like to do with my time.
I gotta tell you, Mike, when the days come that marks the end
of your days out in the woods and nights out in the woods looking for
these guys, that really is going to be a sad day. I hate
the idea that that's coming, but like you just said, unfortunately, you
know it is. Yeah, it happens for everybody. It's some every basketball
player, you know, every you know, like Lebron at some point,
right he's had a great career, but pretty soon a doctor or something,
you know, he's going to tell him, hey, hang up your shoes,
buddy. And it's just it's the way the world works. You know,
you can only go for so long, but we all have purpose.
And we all have our parts to play, and right now this is mine,
So I go hard as I can while I can, And I'm glad
to see that you're doing that too. That's great. On episode eighty three
of My paranormal themed show called My Paranormal Experience, he told us about the
two rake encounters you've had all things considered, if you had to have an
encounter with one or the other, would you rather have an encounter with a
dog man or a rake? Oh, dog man, even though dog men
are a lot bigger and a lot scarier looking, I think they have more
of a pack mentality. If I had to guess, they have families they
have similar to wolves. That I'm only speculating, but I'd say similar to
wolves. They have like, you know, an alpha, and they have
some kind of order, you know, and some kind of cast system or
a chain of command or you know, maybe families and pups. Right,
people have seen pups. I think the rake is I don't know what it
is, but I think it's a solo thing out there that's just trying to
get by, and we'll do what it's got to. So I'd rather see
it talk man any day. That's all I figured you would answer, but
I thought i'd ask anyway. You touched on this a bit ago, Mike,
You've got shown podcast. Please tell us about it and how we can
listen to it. Thank you. It's called On on a Big Foot on
YouTube. It's it's pretty much me walking around doing my thing. I take
people along. I do a lot of live streams, including the subscribers,
and try to speak with them one on one and see where their heads are
out about things, and really like get their feedback and let them be involved
as much as possible. I do do some sometimes I have guests on You
were a guest of mine once briefly recently, I mean, which was a
great, great time, and I appreciate that you know anybody. I think
that the people who are subscribed to me, if they if I see somebody
or come across somebody that I think they should know about, then I try
to bring them in so that they can meet them and see them. And
then you know, go find the good places out there, because there's a
lot of we won't get negative, but there's there's fluff, and then there's
people who work and put in real time and effort, and I like to
find those places and help people find those places, this being one of them.
I sure hope you never change, Mike, because, like I said,
you're a great guy. Thank you. Yeah, you know work in
progress, right, aren't we all though? That's right. Yeah, it
doesn't make any difference from the rest of us, that's right. What's about
time for us to get out if you're a mic. But before we do,
do you have any clothes in commets you'd like to share? No,
you know, if you know, if you need anything ever, you know,
and anybody just reach out to me. I'm easy to find and Vick
is one of the best guys I've ever met. You know, there's there's
not too many really, really genuine people out there on YouTube, and that's
just the way it is, right. But you know, you guys,
whoever's here, you're in the right place, especially for dog Man. So
I'm just happy that they're here. You know, whoever is listening to this,
God bless you and have a wonderful night. Thank you for listening to
me and allowing me to be here. And this has been healing for me
as well, So I appreciate you guys. Well, you know, we've
been so happy to have you on and sharing all these experiences, and we're
so glad to hear that this has been a positive experience for you and that
goes two ways. If I can never help you out in the future,
then please do let me know. And for the listeners, if you'd like
to check out Mike's YouTube channel, which I highly recommend that you do,
Long Island Bigfoot, you can find a link to it in the description for
tonight show. But having said that, thanks again so much for coming on
sharing those experiences with this Mike. I really appreciate it. No, thank
you, Oh you're welcome. Thanks again so much, and have a great night.