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Jeff Grubb and with me is Mike Manati. In today's episode, Nintendo Hates
Gary, Stellar Blade reviews are out, and the best games of twenty twenty.
We'll get to all of that and more. But first, Mike,
how are you doing? Yeah? Not bad. I had a bunch of
stuff to hang that I finally finished hanging. I got this replica electric umbrella
signed behind me. Now that is an old fast food rest on an epcot
that I like. That's not there anymore. My one brother got me a
very nice replica of the sign. So that's finally all right. You guys
talk about that that the Electric Yield or whatever what's it called umbrella? And
yeah, yeah, it was just it was just a burger place. It
was nothing special, but I thought it was neat and I like the name
electric Umbrella. It's a good it's a good name, is uh electric umbrella?
What are they going for with electric umbrella? Do you think? Do
you understand oh, just futurism. Just you know, everything's electric in the
future, a neon lights and stuff like that. That's it. It was
in future world. Oh that's that's cute and cool. I like it.
Yeah, I mean it was a long day for me, and I'm feeling
it right now, but it's not like a totally like bad way. I'm
like, oh, yeah, that was a full day, NonStop, you
know, and then get done with work and then it was that was still
NonStop, but happy to be here, ready to talk about some more video
games and all that. It could have been a long day for me because
I had to get up very early for a appointment a dental thing. I
have. I have a front truth that was chipped when I was a kid.
I think I told you about this, and there's all. It's just
been like on and off issues. And I had some new specialist look at
it today and they want to do another root canal on it next week.
But I didak it up very early for that. When I got back,
I was just tired and didn't field gers like I'm just gonna actually go lay
down for a bit. So I'm fine. That's why That's why I missed
so much. Of your excitement today. I haven't seen too much of what
you guys did. I caught like the end of a voicemail dump truck,
but yeah, I was like, wow, you guys were playing with DIB.
You did a grab bag you know sorts of stuff today. Yeah,
yeah, and like we would cut the grab bag a little bit short,
but we still kind of went for a bit and got into quite a bit
of another Crabs treasure. You know, the crab gets a gun. Well
you can have you can get a gun, but from the accessibility options,
right. But I remember seeing that back at Summer Game Fest last year.
I think when you're showing it, they're all very excited to show people the
gun. Yeah it was. It's a good idea. It's maybe one of
the best accessibility settings and probably will win an award from Giant Bomb. We'll
probably make a category just for that so we can give it an award.
Well, we're we have a big crab era right now. Huh you might
have the crabs er, I don't know. Yeah, wait, what's the
other crab stuff? Crab people? Jeff, oh ship, that's super dancing.
That was yesterday. Man, that's old news. That's all news.
I don't know what you're talking about. Man. People are asking for the
laser shirt, and I think we need to make it happen. Yeah,
I'm like, I'm pretty sure I have the power to make that happen.
I just haven't gone into the UI of the shopify or whatever and really done
much with that. But I'm feeling moved. I might just do it.
I might put the shirt up for like a week or something like that.
It'll be a special limited then or something. I think it should be the
new Marquee shirt personally, but you know, I feel like it's of a
time. But we'll see. Maybe you forgot about it already. Well everyone's
just forgetfuls me. But I believe, all right, we should get into
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Absolutely, all right, I got a bunch of topics I want to
talk about from this past week. You ready to get into it? Yeah,
Jeff, Movie like a Wagon Wheel rock me? All right, let's
go here, Stellar Blade reviews. We're in it landed at I think an
eighty four on on Open Critic and eighty two on Metacritic. I think is
where it lasts when I last when I looked those, Yeah, eighty two
on Metacritic. So I think it's funny. I think I forget if we
said this when we're actually online, but I no offline, we were sick.
It's probably gonna land around where Lies of P did, which is like
an eighty or eighty two. We had that conversation after the show last week
or or earlier this week, I think after Ninten Dogs, and we were
all like, yeah, that sounds about right fair. I think Shawn who
literally said he expects an eighty two, and someone who's doing review coverage for
I'm like, this feels like an eighty two is where ask called it.
Thank you, Yes you nailed it. And then once you started saying now,
I'm like, what e Lies of P doing? You are like that's
right where lots of people was. I'm like, okay, then that's what
I think as well, So yeah you know that, Sean, uh,
And then Mike, I do think you also nailed it in our guessing game.
I think, uh, when I'm based on the number, but wait,
isn't left doing open critic now, No, oh that's right, Well
you still, you still win? You still? I think I was.
I'm an eighty what special points though, but I think I won the other
game, and I already forget what the game that was so okay, so
hey, right where we were kind of expecting based on playing the game a
little bit seeing the game, and it seems like most people say the same
thing, and the reviews for the most part, very fun to play,
that kind of nailed the action. Everything else is a little lackluster, And
I'm like, well, that sounds fine to me. I'm ready to play
a fun action game. And I have been playing it a little bit.
I've not had a chance to play the last couple of nights, but I
was. I enjoyed what I played so far. I think I think it
is a good action game. I think it's going to be right there with
other character action games. I don't think it's going to be replacing you know,
Bayonetta two for me, or Secro or anything like that. I was
never expecting it. I think I was expecting it to land right here,
and the fact that it was able to meet those expectations is a very very
good sign to me. How do you feel about it? Yeah, it
looks like they made a good game. I probably do want to try it
out at some point. It's been a little bit about second since I played
a newer character action game, so why the heck not? Yeah, it's
the kind of thing where this is a game where they can like build on
what they've done in this first game. That's like a really strong introduction and
if they want to make a Stellar Blade too, which everyone says seems the
game is set up to introduce a sequel in a pretty heavy way I would
imagine they would do, so, I bet it's gonna sell way better than
they expected. So yeah, a second game following this up, building on
everything in a decent way, it's gonna be good. Are you gonna Are
you someone who's gonna be like a little bummed out that it's like trying to
be near Automata and doesn't have the decent like storytelling. Apparently has very good
music, so it's got that side of things. Are you gonna be upset
that it's just like a good action game. I don't know. I mean
I never expected it to do that stuff as well as or a taumas though
that's kind of the problem with aping us stuff as much it's and that's one
thing, Hey, Eliza p wants to be bloodborn. I know there's some
like from software siccos who really love like that kind of lore and whatnot,
But that story is all very kind of background in there, right, whereas
in a near automata it's very foreground all that stuff. So you would all
have a pretty hard time matching that with sort of an early effort like this,
right, So I just don't have that expectation of going into it.
Yeah, I think for me, like this is a game that if it
was on steam Deck, if I could be playing on on there, I
would percent be playing it. I'm probably gonna I'll probably stream it to the
Steam Deck try to see if I can play a little bit more of it.
But when I have a little bit of time to sit down on the
chair and the TV over here and play some games, it is what I'll
I'll turn on. I just don't have a ton of time for that right
now, and it's not one of the games that I'm going to one hundred
percent like make time for. But when I have that time, I'll take
it for that, right, that's kind of my takeaway this game. Maybe
I probably will want to pla. It doesn't seem urgent or anything that kind
of like how I felt with Liza P. And I did say then that
one was Lise of P was game pass, so it was very easy to
check that out right away. Anyways, I forget this is like PlayStation Plus
or something or an another. Right, I know Sony's involved, I don't
know exactly how easily it is the access it. Yeah, so Sony is
publishing the game, I believe. I think that's right, but they it's
not like in PlayStation PlayStation Plus or anything like that. But yeah, I
just like, I think this game is probably gonn end up on PC in
about a year or so, maybe a little bit longer, and those things
range. A lot of PlayStation first party games are three years. But it
feels like these games that are like, yeah, their first party, but
it's a partner studio, sometimes they come a little bit quicker. So we'll
see. That said, I still will be playing it when I get some
time. The Thousand Year Doors previews went live earlier this morning. Mike,
you and I were both in there. You got a little bit some people
think got to play, but we kind of had a some people they get
to play. I had a hands off preview. You did too, so
yeah, I think some people had some kind of hands on thing at least
if that's in New York or LA or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
but yes that it was like, Okay, we're I'm gonna sit down
with this preview, gonna see what they're gonna say. And they basically talked
about what Mario or Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door was as a video game,
and I'm like, oh, yeah, I played this before, guys,
I know all this, So it was like a little bit. I
was a little bit like lost there first, like okay, and when are
we going to get like what's new? And then they did talk about a
few things that were new. There's a badge in there, they could play
the GameCube music. That new music. There's new music, right. Uh.
There's a character called the battle Master I think in Toadsport who can teach
you more about how to like get the most out of the combat system and
all the other stuff. Yeah, just some other neat things. They're like
you could instantly swap party members, which I don't think you could in the
original game, so that's really nice. And like the newer Piper Mario games,
you can and kind of swing your hammer and more directions like up and
down, not just left and right, so that makes certain things easier.
It was really impressive, you know. I think the big thing is what
excites me is that this is more of a graphical update than I was expecting
it is. Looking. Yes, it looks really very snappy, at least
ins of at least in terms of, like, you know, the actual
graphics and the fidelity. Yeah. It in the zoom call where they were
previewing it. Excuse me, uh, they made it. It looked very
smooth, to the point where I'm like, maybe this is sixty and it's
you asked about that while I was gone getting my kid from the bus.
Now, I know you can't like quote them exactly or anything like that,
but like just kind of what was the vibe they gave you so and I
was a little bit wasty. I was like when I was looking, I
was like, I was like, this looks pretty good. I don't think
it's sixty. It looks funnish, but I couldn't tell. I thought it
might have been because the zoom Call is probably eating up something here and it
was smoothed it out to me, so I'm like, I don't know,
but you know, and I asked him, look, this is just a
run by, you know, the marketing people. It's not like we're talking
to developers. But I just said, hey, is this thirty or sixty?
And he I kind of got along when answered like, well, you
know, there are some things that are different, so the game might feel
a little different some people, which to me was like, okay, so
it's thirty, even though they didn't really say that. Well, and you
saw the trailer today, right right, do you want it? That's at
thirty. So that was uploaded without a sixty frames per second option. It's
you know, you see the ten ADP sixty, It was just ten ADP
on YouTube, which to me is basically a confirmation that it's, if not
always running at thirty, most of the time running at thirty frames per second.
That said, the way it looks in that trailer, the way it
looked in the zoom Call, I'm like, it looks pretty smooth in terms
of like how it appears to me. I think, I'm okay, I
do just have some concerns about the timing of hits in battle, but that's
something you can also get used to, so I don't know. I just
want to play for myself and judge at that point. At this point,
I'm like, I have my concerns, but they probably won't be that big
of a deal. Yeah, that's I think that's where I am. You
know, Like I was pretty upset about this early on, but yeah,
looking at that preview, looking at the video, I'm like, Okay,
like this looks fine. Honestly. The only concern now is the timing stuff,
and they can do things like have like inputs be read at sixty fps
even if the game's not running at that. I don't know if they're going
to do that, and I don't know, maybe, like when I played,
it actually won't even be an issue anyways, but it is still a
concern in what is otherwise looking like a very good project. Otherwise, I
am very excited about this pretty much every angle. Yep, I feel like
they nailed what they were going for. Yeah, and chat they're like,
oh yeah, the Orgomi King was thirty frames per second and that felt pretty
good. Yeah. I didn't have any trouble with the timing in that game.
I didn't think that game had a great combat system that I never it
won't be an issue. I bet it won't be an issue in the end,
and I won't be surprised if they like basically just used what they did
for Origami King here. So that's why we're kind we kind of ended up
with this. And again, when I was really upset, like I was
like, that's a bullshit that we're having a GameCube game that was at sixty
and now it's at thirty switch And I still stand by that a bit.
But this, again, this is more of a remake than I was expecting.
It does look noticeably better. So no, I just want to be
excited about this game. I love the thousand nine Door. I'm not gonna
let this like be some kind of weird ring cloud hanging over me and the
whole thing now right, I mean, what's the worst that can happen?
Right now? We get excited, we get disappointed, it's like, okay,
oh well, then we can always go back to the original and play
that game. No one's taking that away. So it's like, yeah,
I'm gonna get my hopes up that this is going to be a really nice,
not you know, not swan song for the for the Switch, but
something close to something very close to the end, the last game that we
know. It could be one of the last big game, might be the
biggest game on the Switch this year, you know, good point, it
could be, And like, I want to have good memories of the Switch
at the end here, and I don't want to be kind of shitty about
it. So if it still bothers people, I don't blame them. If
they're just like, if this is indicative of like, you know, what's
annoying about these remakes, so especially things that come from GameCube that did run
at sixty frames per second, I'm with you as well, but in this
particular case, I'm going to be like, Okay, moving that aside.
I'm excited about this game. It's clearly not as bad as Tails a Symphonia,
which was, you know, a sixty FPS game on GameCube. Then
they did a bad remaster of it, which barely did much to make the
game look any better. They didn't bad remaster of the PS three game right
right again, Well, yeah, the PS three which was then The Weavers,
and right exactly, it's like that being at thirty fist per second was
completely unacceptable, Whereas here, I guess maybe I can see and again when
you're looking the trailer, you know, you can look at the contra.
Nobody in like the comments, at least that I saw them as are like,
whoa, this looks like it's real sluggish. No one's really saying that.
It doesn't look like that. I think a part of that is they
built the game around this, as I think this was the scope from the
beginning, so the animations are all built to look good at this frame rate,
Whereas, like you know, obviously in a shooter game you're strafing side
to sign, the whole world can can become a slide show or feel like
a slide show. To me, at least, that's that was not happening
in this trailer. Maybe we'll see, we'll get the final game. But
there are times where it does like it's like like three y fastest borderline repulsive
to me, Like I could not stand playing off seven rebirths on the thirty
fps mode and other people prefer that, right, So it's just like a
difference of you know, perspective. You know, we all have different eyes
and brains and all that stuff. Usually I am very sensitive to it.
It didn't seem bad here. We'll see. I'll play the game, then
I'll see how I feel about it. But I'm excited for a thousand year
door sticky with Nintendo. Apparently, Nintendo has started issuing takedown notices for many
of the mods and assets that are on the Steam Workshop that use Nintendo IP
for the fun sandbox game Gary's Mod. This is something that people have been
They've been uploading content based on Nintendo the Steam Workshop for a very long time.
Some of these assets are around twenty years old and Gary, the people
responsible for Gary's Mod. Gary himself took the Twitter said this is confirmed Nintendo
is sending these takedown notices. Let's start with with why do you think this
is happening? Do you think Nintendo is I speculate on Game of Mornings this
morning, Mike that it was lawyers at Nintendo of America just finding their next
project to work on, being like, okay, we like did the emulator
thing. We were still I still get paid every day. I got to
be finding something to keep myself busy. Let's just get to that. I'm
like, I still think it's probably that I guess I wouldn't be shocked if
it's like, well, Nintendo has this idea of user generating a user generated
content future, and so we got to like, you know, we got
to salt the earth. Yeah, it's probably not that. It's probably a
bored lawyer, right. I don't think there's any way this is hitting at
the future of Nintendo. And anyways, probably you're right, they have a
bunch of lawyers, uh that work there. There's not a whole lot for
them to do right now because I think, you know what, there's not
a lot of legal lees to do about new projects or even the switch to
at this point, right, So yeah, they're just they're just looking for
something to do that seems likely to me. And this is pretty stupid.
Mod is so completely harmless, just freaking leave it alone. But no,
they're gonna go in there and stir shit up. Yep. I think this.
I think this stinks. It is I think the people who are who
say like free advertising are right. I think when Nintendo stuff pops up in
something like a Gary's mod, it does almost zero measurable harm to Nintendo and
probably only helps them. When we were saying that about like Samu's being in
Fortnite, You're like, okay, so people who play on PlayStation five are
gonna see samus Like, how is that a bad thing, except that it
like weirds out some seventy year old Zeo or whatever at Nintendo. I don't
know. Yeah, I think the other side of this sad for me is
always I'm surprised it worked this way in the first place. I am like,
when I think of mods, I'm like, yeah, mod, you
can do with anything with mods. I'm a big fan of mods. I
like them. But my expectation is when you want a mod, you got
to go find it. You got to go look on their you want to
find the real shit. I mean, yeah, but that's the dot that
like Launcher you can use to like launch mods on the Xbox version of like
Skyrim and Fallout and all that stuff. That's really cool, But they like
have that police hard. There is no copyright infringement on there. They won't
let the ones that like use real songs or have like Star Wars conversion mods
like that stuff isn't on there because they don't own that stuff and they just
block it out right. I would assume that I assumed a little bit that
like Steam was doing that to a certain extent. That's why I never would
really use the Steam Workshop for the most part. And we'll use it a
little bit with Skyrim and they're like, Okay, well there's one mod not
on here. I'm going to go over to the Vortex and use that thing
or just install it myself. All these mods apparently still exist online in other
places, so you're still gonna be able to install these things. They just
won't be on the Steam Workshop. I asked around. That's my understanding.
If that's not right, then that really stinks. If these things are just
being scrapped from the scraped from the internet for good, I really hate this.
But if this is just Nintendo going like saying, hey, Steam,
you have to stop distributing these things, like of course they are. We
all understood that we shouldn't be doing that in the first place. You got
to like be brave, go find it on the internet yourself and install it,
you know, with with like into the folder like a big boy.
I'm like, this doesn't really affect me all that much when I really think
about it. But that's I don't know, does that sound right to you?
Sure? You know, I know I'm not the biggest mod guy in
the world anyways, So I had no idea how it works for a Gary's
mod, to be honest. I think I loaded up Gary's mod one time
and I shot a gun and a Gordon Freeman showed up, and I was
like, that's interesting. Yeah, this happens. This happens all the time
with the tabletop simulator, where like people miss tabletops games all the time,
and then like a company that own certain tabletop is like, hey, Steam,
you can't do that, so they take that one down, but they
lift like the other like thousands up. So he happens a lot of time.
I do know if Larkana there's like that one like digital card game thing,
but it's not like you can like open it up and then from with
their load the lar Khana packs. You have to like go and like find
the zip files yourself that have that has all the Larkana art and effects on
it to load into that. Yes, there's my frame of reference and it's
it's the exact same thing. It's it's you know, downloading retroarchs. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, where are the ROMs? Oh, we can't tell
you, Like it's it's that sort of thing, you know, in every
YouTube video about that, being like, oh, it's impossible to find you
know, Google doesn't exist. It's like everyone winks and nods, and as
long as you do that, as long as you know, shut the fuck
up Friday, like everything else is chill and we can all keep getting away
with this. Uh. But once you start being like we're gonna use the
Steam commercial platform, it's like that is crossing a line that I thought again,
I thought we all understood, so like, why even do it in
the first place. And the reason is because they got away with it for
so long, figured people could just figure it it's fine at a certain point,
and Steam only stops people it seems like when they do get a DMCA
claim, which is they're right, they're allowed to operate that way. That's
the way the DMCA rules are written. That's how YouTube works, right.
You got upload a movie and it'll be on there until someone does something,
unless it's on content ID, which is also actively an active thing. You
have to lay like here's my content, please idea it for me. So
yeah, I think this sucks. I think this is indicative and Nintendo being
a curmudgeon and being kind of a stick in the mud about this stuff.
I also don't think it's that big a deal. All right. Finally,
just this little thing here, I talked about this, I think with m
Ron yesterday maybe it maybe it was with jan today. Capcom raised their earnings
expectations today they were all Capcom yehes today. Capcom was already one of the
fastest growing companies in Japan, and now they're expecting to grow even faster.
This is I mean, everything's going Capcom's way, right, Yeah, And
you know that is the benefit where you get to a point where you release
so many quality games that suddenly just you yourself become a brand. It's something
that Nintendo has been able to enjoy for a long time. It happens to
very few other companies. It happened from Software for example, and that's a
great position to be in. It's probably gonna happen to say Alarian Studios now,
but it's happened to Capcom now. Like Dragons Dogma too, right,
Dragon's Dogma on with such a kind of low key thing that people liked.
It was kind of a hated gem. The fact that Dragon's Dogma two can
exceed expectations right and help them raise their forecasts like, you know, everything's
going great over there. Like when they have a misfire, it's something like
Exo Primate, what is still like whatever that was fun, which is so
big deal. No one's mad about that. Yeah it's a good game,
right, No one cares. So yeah, yeah, it's a Capcom world
right now. Yep. They kind of the Midas touch a little bit.
It's and that's not like luck. It is like they've crafted a certain way
of making games and obviously they have their tech like they have their artistic side
of like, here's what we're here's our vision for how we're going to make
games, and then they have their technical side of here's the engine that we're
going to do it all in. And both are working hand in hand and
both are like at the top of their game and everything's benefiting. It does
feel like the growth is going to be a good continue to be the thing
that every other company is looking over and being jealous of. And I think
every other companies can like, man, we could have had that, because
I don't think Capcom's doing anything that's like that strange or that different. Now.
I think the big thing is is the reach for the Moon Engine,
the RI engine, sure, but like Capcom had Fox Engine, if they
would have stuck with that and kept updating it, maybe I don't really fully
understand that. Maybe it had so much technical debt they couldn't have done that.
I don't fully know, but it's like, you know, there was
a world in which they were building an engine and then they stopped and because
they were like, well, we're not gonna invest in these games anymore.
Was that? So you said Capcom had the Fux engine, that's gonna thank
you. Yeah, I mean it's pretty easy to see that world where they
didn't piss off Kojima and they released PT and they like had more fallow ups
to metal gear and other things using that engine. And you know they were
able to like massage Silent Hill to be in a Capcom status way earlier,
so that it's already there now. And then Medical Cure Ke is doing things,
and maybe you could have actually done something with Contra, right, because
you know Capcom has these legacy franchises that's doing stuff with. It has so
many more that kild I can always go back to and bring back also,
uh, you know, like like a Mega Man all these other things.
Yeah, they're just in a fantastic spot I'm so I'm always just excited to
see what's happening next. I was even thinking today it's like, oh,
I wonder when they go into announce the next Resident Evil. I was listening
to Bullet in the Blade on Spotify at time. I was like, I
like that game. I hope we got another Resident Evil soon. Those are
very good. And before remake came out like early last year, right about
this, yeah, this this time last year just about actually I think maybe
a little earlier. So yeah, it's about a year old now. So
and we know they have that that action game coming out that I can't remember
the name of, can it Sugami Path of the Gods? Yes? Right,
And they announced a new Monster Hunter, so we have a little bit
of an idea of what's coming next. Ish now New Devil May Cry probably
bits away because that was the Dragon's Dog with two team, although I imagine
that's what they will be working on next, so they might be doing a
little Dragon's Dog the DC or something or so. Yep, they're they're full.
They're all in on on street Fighters sports. Street Fighter Yep. Yeah,
street Fighter is going to continue to get content, and it's like our
Stalker's going to continue being dead. Well, That's that's what I wonder is
like, are they going to expand now? Because I mean that's the thing
about growth. Growth is great. Where are you gonna get more growth now?
Are they going to maybe try to spin up some more studios or we
are they really going to try to push to get a new versus game happening
or bring back to dog Stalkers, do something with Mega Man, do more?
Uh? I guess I'm curious to see what the next step is.
I think they probably do like get a little big in their bridges and say,
you know what, let's do Mega Man. Let's make Mega Man than
our next big sort of project here, not like projects like our next video
game project are next like a renovation project, like let's really make make it
as big as possible. But then they they probably are going to reach a
little bit of a wall, right because like, like I think what you're
saying, like, do they have to expand to make new studios, because
what they've done now is like you know, you take the the the Devil
May Cry studio, let them go back to Dragon's Dogma and that like as
a franchise to could be that much bigger. It is they've done that now,
and okay that they've sort of reached their their limit here or reached their
kind of see it, Bethesa. You can have a studio work on maybe
two Giant Triple A franchises. Three are asking a lot these days, right,
That's yeah, that's like not an option, right, So it's like
they're doing what they can. It seems like all like seems like they've tapped
out like the potential for Resident Evil. They will keep making Resident Evils,
but it's like, yeah, is there like a third fourth uh you know,
tier echelon of of Receievil. It can be happening simultaneously. Probably not.
They have the occasional multiplayer side game that they put out, and that
seems to be like them reaching as far as they can reach. Yeah,
right at you wall soon, I think. Yeah, like Rezie was in
a very good spot, but you can't exactly saturate it more. You have
this great thing going on with remakes, new game, remake, new game.
You can continue to do that for a bit. It's like the old
days where we can make another light gun game or something just like fill things
out. Gosh, I don't want to get myself worked up a gosh it.
It just makes up with sense to me. You have a little extra
capital, now you do you are look for ways to grow, and people
do still like Mega Man like, let's take an action ready crisis. Sorry,
hey, well that be neat too, although I'm I'm still little confused
where all these Dino Crisis fans game from bring it up every time? But
sure, hey, I would not complain about more Dino Crisis. That be
neat, but give me I think, go ahead. It would have be
on top five of my like Capcom franceises, I went back, I would
give me Demon's Cress and power Stone and similar things first, but sure,
sure do Dino Crisis whatever. Uh. I think the good news for Capcom
as it stands right now is the the fundamental strategy of continuing to invest in
these franchises that have worked in the past and continue to continue to find new
fans are going to keep finding new fans. Whereas Evil's Big, it keeps
getting bigger. Monster Monster Hunter is big, it keeps getting bigger, and
I think that is at a certain point a sort of a self feeding loop
of people get excited because their friends are excited, so they come to check
in on the next game, and you make the next game that much bigger,
that much more accessible. That's clearly what they're doing with Monster Hunter over
and over again. Now, I think that there's still like growth within what
they're doing, still yet to be untapped. It's just like they are going
to begin looking for new opportunities and that's going to be tough to pull off.
I think that's all. Yeah. I see the people chest say,
oh, kids don't like Mega Man. Well, they haven't made a Mega
Man game since twenty eighteen, so like most of the kids weren't. Let
Mega Man is a cartoon character. If you make a good Mega Man game,
it is going to appeal to kids. Uh, you know that can't
happen. I mean that's why I liked Magas Watch because I was a very
young kid. He just he's an appealing looking, fun, cute character.
They'll take care of itself and the kids are often wrong. Also, Yeah,
if they don't like Mega Man, fuck them, I know better than
them. That does for the big stuff this week. Oh go ahead,
what was that? Sorry? I imagine if they do the game in like
a cartoon, you will live with a go like Mega Man car. Imagine
they had a Megma game that kind of looked like Hiphi Rush Jesus Christ Jese.
Okay, yeah, yeah, gotta be good. A big swing.
I think they should take a big swing with Mega Man next. Look,
if you want to do like the safe swing and make a new Mega Man
X or something also, of course, sure do that too. There's probably
ten studios that have made good Mega Man likes that you can go and throw
some money to and just have that happen while you're doing the big Mega Man
thing. I do appreciate Dominic Malta remind us about pragmata. Pragmata pragmata in
chat. Capcom always needs to have one of those as well. There was
always a deep down, there's always a pragmata. There's always one of these
games. It's been forever, the justings in the background. How fucking dare
you? First you say Darkstalkers are going continue to be dead? Now you're
shitting on my dreams? A pragmata? Okay? Are you? Are you
being for shoot with this? Yes? Why what is it? I completely
forget about it. Other than their Capcom game that looks like I could have
been a Kojima game. I know that, but what else is it?
Why are you excited about it? Because sci fi as hell? Okay,
if that's it, if that, if that's your heart, I'm with you.
I get that fair enough. This is like this, It smells like
somebody who misses a lot of what's the vanquish? Is this like we need?
It's like we need that that type of game again? Do speaking of
the speaking of the three sixty era and cap when we see that Dark Void
and the like the eight bit, I went to get them todayan do you
listen? I gotta buy five bucks. Yeah, I'm gonna might do that
right now before you just do it because I was afraid I was gonna forget
so actually I think I need to buy him case I ever lose my Dark
Dark Void zero. Yeah, I'll get both of this right now. Get
one, buy Dark Void. Maybe we'll confuse them, but really what's more
dark? We'll get Dark Void before Mega Man, I'll be like, what
the fuck? What do you think is happening? There? Is there like
some music because I know they had I'm back that music was like bought for
that game that was like work for hire. That has to be. I
mean, I don't know. I yeah, no, no idea. Maybe
they just because it does have mixed reviews on Siano as a matter of like
peoplen't really like this game. It like makes us look bad. I don't
know, I can't imagine what it is. Yeah, I mean, maybe
it's like starting to break down and it's hard to support it. You know
what. The capcom definitely is probably gonna announce soon is Ace Attorney seven?
The next eights Attorney's probably geting announced soon, and I will be happy.
I'm glad we live in a world where Ace Attorney and Professor Layton are still
going that. Professor Layton looks good like Ace Attorney never even really went away,
like Lighton's coming back with this quaintness ye back yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's a new Layton young. Wow, I forget what's called on one
future? Was that a different one? Uh? Yeah, there's a new
uh Layton. It looks great and we are definitely going to get a new
Ace Attorney soon and that will be awesome. I bet. Well, those
are the big topics I wanted to talk about. We have to get in
some super chats. Let's see what those kids want to talk about let's do
that actually right after this break, do that right after this and we're back
and we've got some super chats. Mike, you want to hit those for
me? Yes? Yes. Our Lincoln member Daily Beating says, thanks as
always for the shows. Thank you Daily Beating, Thank you Daily Beating.
That's how we keep them morale around here. That's right, the ten Derek
says, the Watchdog series is one of my favorite games series. So this
week's news was rough any other unique, open world GTA like games you'd recommend,
So yeah, it seems like Watchdogs is not coming back. It also
seemed like, you know, you run your polls on game this morning.
They're not the most scientific thing in the world now, of course, but
the fact that only twenty five percents like seems we're like, yeah, I
want a new Watchdogs. That's pretty low. It's pretty low, I think.
I think, I do think that's the explanation, even though you're absolutely
right not scientific. Have you if you haven't played Sleeping Dogs, play Sleeping
Dogs. I played quite a bit of that and I thought that was pretty
good. I think though, you know, so many games are kind of
becoming open world and they're not trying to be GTA. Well no, what
kNs they THO could afford to make a GTA clone anyway, if that new
Mafia happens, that'll be as close as you're probably gonna get. But that's
probably a good ways a way, right, So I think just didn't fully
embrace you know, RPGs. Be happy to like, go play like a
Dragon Infinite Wealth, and that's a decent game that's like, hey, this
is an open world with a lot of stuff going on. It's not exactly
like that, but it's close enough. Maybe when the crazy text it comes
out, it'll be a bit like that. Damn. Then you know,
that's one of those what do they call it? The ultimate games? I
can't remember, but yeah, you know, I'm the weirdo who liked Watchdogs
Won five, like I Watch Talks two is good and probably better, but
like Washington, you also really like Assassin's Creed one, right, yeah,
yeah, I do like these ones that people are always like Eve Sonic one.
I like these ones that people like, Oh these ones are rough,
then the sequel makes it better. I kind of like the roughness sometimes,
and I don't you know, like Watch Talks two is better, but it
thought it was better because it just started being sillier, which I you know,
I get that's going to be more popular. And maybe Watchdogs one did
take itself too seriously, but there's something to that sounds not everything's gotta be
like you know, it's not huh, we got jokes, although I did
like that character who had the led face. He was nice. Yeah,
I and I thought Legion was a bunch of interesting ideas and none of it
really came together in any really fun ways. So yeah, too bad.
Yeah, Legion just clearly didn't work out. Yep. Uh all right,
Ali Miracle says we're all skibbity in me and motos World. Okay, what
skibbity? Uh skimmity. I think it's just it's bad or evil? Yes,
uh like and skimmitty toilet I think is. I do think this comes
back from skibby toilets. I think there's a song where the toilet sings and
it it has skibbity in the lyrics, and then I think the toilet is
evil. It clearly is. There's like a seventy eighty part like YouTube short
series of this skibbity toilet eventually turning into like a giant mech like blowing up
cities. Don't worry, I'll make you watch the whole thing next time.
Ye, what was the movie that had the evil toy? Was it Look
Who's talking to or was it something else? There wasn't evil toilet in a
movie, even toilet like Scared the Baby or something. Yeah, it might
have been sounds familiar, yeah, because he would have been enough for potty
trings. So it couldn't be the first one. It had to be a
sequel where Roseanne is the baby daughter, but not someone with the talking dogs
with he's talking now. No, they love getting that toilet. So skimmity
is batter evil. Well, Ohio means cringe. Do you know that the
kids literally literally did set it today? Yeah that's yeah. Oh well yeah,
don't don't come here. It's so cringe, it's terrible, you'll hate
it. Comfortable housing. Yeah, it's mostly about like they were like apparently
there was this period of time where there were like four or five videos that
were really cringey, and every single one like took place in Ohio. So
it just like caught on with the kids, like, oh that's so Ohio.
Something to be proud of yes, uh and then Riz of course is
the other one that they still wonder if that even the Olhawkins were doing it
when I was in Ohio, like in high school, everybody had like,
uh stuck in Ohio like license plate stickers or something. It was the cool
agy thing to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, listen. I was
listen. I didn't know what to say that I did not portic. I
was in Michigan and up yeah. I was like, I was like,
all right, Tom for the next super check. Yeah, I had to
read those actually, a char wolf says Hi. Has Mike or Sean played
Pokemont, colisseum or XD really check them out and they're pretty fun to go
back to, even though they're slow. I have both of them for shoot
over there and I want to play them for people don't know. These are
the GameCube games where like Pokemon Stam, you can import characters, but they
also have single player like story mode things that are pretty well liked. So
I kind of fallen off playing GameCube stream. I want to get back to
it very very soon, Jeff, I want to be playing, you know,
for so long, like fifteen months there. We did have that onslaught
and yeah, there's new games coming up, But like I said, like
okay, like Stellar Blades out in a game worth a crab who can't have
a gun but usually doesn't not good game Stoll. But I don't feel like
this insane pressure keep up like I did for almost fourteen months straight there or
whatever for a while. It is kind of nice that things have fun really
slowed down a little bit. Yep. Yeah, I think we'll well.
I think if it stays like this through the holidays, where I'll be like,
man, this is kind of a bummer. But at right now,
I'm like, I'm welcoming it right Like the fact that I was able for
a week to just dream treasure play it on the PS two was very nice.
I liked it. Kiking Jacobson says that Dolphin Slash GameCube is getting retro
Achievements support soon for some reason. I don't give a shit about achievements or
trophies, but retro achievements I really like they are better. It's just better.
And they also like keep track of speed running stuff like right on the
steam deck. It's so cool. Cody Bishop says any plan on covering sand
Land on Giant Bomb maybe, I think I think we did play it at
some point, and like one of the demos. I think, if not,
maybe I was just playing it for then I was going to talk about
it on a bomb cast or something like that. But I think we did
like a little demo thing, the steam neck Fest. It's I didn't love
the demo it was, but I'm like, I I wonder if like that
was missing maybe the main thrust of it. So like, and this is
also what I'm talking about, like, yeah, there's still new games coming
out and they're like good, but like Sandline has a seventy three on Metacritic
whatever, but it is like, Okay, I don't feel insane pressure to
go and play sand Land right away. The show is pretty good. I
recommend the show. Oh it is. I'm glad to hear that. Is
that on? I think it's on Netflix or something like that. I can't
Yeah, I don't remember it's on Well, it's on Disney Plus here,
so I don't know, Oh Disney Maybe it was, so it's either who
were Disney plus here. Yeah, there's plans, but that was part of
Like that was one of the games I was thinking about maybe playing for the
grab bag today. We had so many that we were considering that it actually
didn't make that cut. Well, maybe we'll do another one of those and
give people a chance to vote if they want to see it. El Grug
says, right to hell, Mortal Kombat mythologies, it's Superman sixty four is
an insane lineup of Blake Club games. How does Jeff feel about his next
non Dreamcast Blake game? Not great, El Grug? Not great? Okay
today, do you hear the yeah? I heard that you're peeking. I'm
not peeking. Amaz unfailed. This is not my fault. They sent it
in a clear plastic bag, and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
I didn't order a yellow shirt with a collar. And I'm like,
oh, Jeff Graub Blake Club, Well it's here's here's the good news.
No idea what that is. That's what I realized. He's not gonna be
able to make any sense of that. Am I playing a bad golf game?
I don't know. Oh gosh, I am so excited for for that
reveal on Wednesday. I want you to know I did. I looked for
a Dreamcast game. There was like one possible why am I could just tell
you now because it's not that there was like a game based on the ring
that was that's supposed to be bad, the wrror thing. But it's like,
I don't know, was it a very sexy blake up pick. Dan
wasn't feeling it. Dan was probably and Dan was saying earlier there's just not
enough really bad Dreamcast games. I'm like, yeah, that's probably right.
It's weird, that's me yeh all right. Next one here is from super
Blastics. I just got to work, so I haven't checked all of y'all's
counting yet. But if Dan or Grubb given their thoughts on the ano flip
the flip yet, I in neo flip, I in neo flip. That's
way more syllables than I would have guessed the I in neo flipped. We'll
love to hear what you guys have to say. Thank you. Dan has
it. I don't. He is checking it out, though he keeps showing
me all the cool things he's doing with it. I think it looks really
interesting. It is. I think it's his first just straight up like windows
handheld, and so that like threw him off like for a second, and
then he immediately was like, oh, you could do so much with this,
and he has been he's been playing stuff like a Link between Worlds on
it because it's the dual screen. So and he also was like really happy
with it because it's more compact. So he's like kind of thinking about taking
places where he wouldn't maybe have taken the steam deck. That said, I'm
like interested to see how battery life is and all those things. But I
think we'll get a chance to talk about it next time he's on the BombCast
for sure. But maybe we'll just do a video dedicated to it. I
don't know, we'll see Salaam Hillfinger says, I'm not asking you to go
firmer and I but I'm just saying this game name out loud, trestpath,
sir, love you all. Will that be drastic park Trespassers. That's something
else I am. I mean, I think there's a trespasser was very old.
That's not what the new game's called. Yeah, there is a rumor
that there's a new trustpasser game, but I don't know anything about a truspasser
game. Oh is this the Was this the code name for the do guest
singer? Am I completely making that up? I'm gonnaut here from Kotaku,
Uh trustpasser to Oh, they're trying to guess a black club game, that's
what it is. Oh, well, I'm not gonna say this or no.
Although for my confusion right now, you might have well you're a very
good actor, could be like you're very expressed. You're right, You're I
have a lot of respect for you. Jeff, Okay, Well we'll see.
Wow, that's what we're doing. Bake Fresh thirty seven says, you
guys have heard this old uh infrogrames rocks my World song? Right been in
my head ever since the news broke a few days ago. I have not
heard that song. Actually I heard people bring it up, but I didn't.
I didn't look it up myself. Yeah, it's definitely something that people
have been like, they're they're mind blown by. I think it was like
a bit on Giant Bomb or something. So I was like, oh,
we can't like redo that bit. So I think that's why I didn't even
look it up. Dark band, he says, don't care what people say.
I'm going to play Stellar Blade because of someone's Korean but can't speak as
then language. Best to support my culture diversity as Japanese games are overpopulated to
other Asian devs. Good news is no one's gonna say anything. I mean,
I don't I don't want to get into all of that stuff too much,
except that, of course the game actually coming out getting reviews has changed
good good reviews has changed absolutely nothing. That the people who are still mad
and have their ax to grind about their perceived unfairness as game is getting for
critics are still real mad about other things, mostly imagined. So you know,
of course it's all very stupid. But yeah, go play Stellar Blade
if you want to, and play Stellar Blade because it's yeah, because it's
from South Korea. I think that's a great We can play that game.
Those those developers have been doing great stuff for forever, and now they're like
kind of putting out awesome games in the console space. That to me nothing
but good news. Bob as Me says, I wanted to get your thoughts
on Tales of Kenzara. It is a lot more derivative of Ori than I
expected, to the point that I think I might want to play or rather
than this or the new game from Riri Dev's. Well, the new game
from ARIDV is nothing like a Metroid Vinya, right. I talked about that
on the BombCast. It's a top down souls like game. It's an early
access. Now I've seen people say this maybe a Segely get it other way.
I don't get a ton of Orri, specifally from Kenzara. I don't
know. I get more as the game went on, and maybe that's what
it is. Then it's but as escape sequences apparently too. Huh. Yeah,
it has several escape sequences, and those that's when it was like really
hitting, like, oh, this game was taking more from RI than I
realized. But it's it's not that derivative of RI overall. And Or is
a Metroidvania. I mean, yeah, it's like doing a lot of cool
new stuff there, but it's at its heart it's kind of a derivative genre.
I mean it's called metroid Vanya, that's right. And what we want
from them is to be like Metroid or Castlevania Symphony of the Night. That's
what we want. So I really don't. I don't feel good holding that
against a game and being like another game in the genre. That said,
if you're not feeling tells of Cancerras out, I don't blame you. I
think it's a I think it's a good game that kind of borders on fine,
more closer to fine than great. And if the story does not win
you over, then yeah I would. I can imagine I could see you
putting it down, no problem, crossing Boomer Hidden Zoomer says Capcom just needs
to adapt the Proto Man rock opera. Man. I loved Proto Men when
I discovered them, but that was like thirteen years ago now, Like I
saw them at the first Packs East and their Act two album was out then.
I don't think Act three has still come out yet. Are they still
like actively working on it. I think I think they like may want and
scrapped it, and then some people have left and and all this stuff.
I think it's a little bit like the last song of Versus Fire or the
next song of the Fire Ice and Fire Book, right, it's kind of
like, yeah, they're working on it, probably, I guess. I
don't think we're ever going to see it, but they're working on it.
Yeah, But they're released a single or two that's supposed to be from it,
like what came out in twenty twenty two, but there's no album,
And I don't know if there ever will be fair enough. It's too bad.
Uh. Next one here is from Mikey O'learria says, I don't know.
Let's all get together for juice Boxes and a double feature of Heavyweights and
Camp Nowhere and never seeing Camp Nowhere. But Heavyweights is one of the best
movies ever. No, yes, yes, absolutely, it is no good.
I'm not gonna I won't accept it until you watch Goonies. Heavyweights is
great. The Goonies think They're Goonies is a fantastic movie. I never said
goody stinks. I just said a dinner. It wasn't like my thing.
I didn't know. I want you. I have the yeah, you have
the stink of a Goonies fans what I said? That's right, that is
correct. I think ay Wit is pretty good. That is anyway quite a
yeah. I still I still quote, uh, what's his face's? Character
from that Bence stores Benisour is so good. He's basically doing a proto version
of his character from Dodgeball, and yet it's so funny. Oh god.
At the end of the movie, where like the kids should like they're they're
like film of how terrible Camp was, and they thought that they like had
locked them up. But he's like, hey, you get the raptors that
he's doing the slow cap. He's like, oh, what a what a
film. The editing technique, the cinematography, he does like a triple backflip
on the He's like, by the part of the villain was a little over
the top. Oh my god, is it good? I love that movie.
The next one here is waits Camp Nowhere, the one with the I
from Home Alone. I don't I don't know a thing about Camp Nowhere.
Actually I don't know nothing about that. Is it? I would have thought
of Ernest Goes to Camp as the next one. Uh oh no, it's
it's the one with Christopher Lloyd. I think, oh really, oh,
I probably like that a lot. Then I like Christopher Lloyd. Now you
know, I see this box I'm like, man, I remember this from
like Blockbuster, seeing the box art of it, right, and I was
thinking of bush Whacked. You know what, I'm gonna watch all three?
Just decide that sounds a great time. That's like, I just got that
outside like patio things set up. I'll put almost see if I can get
like a little computer set up in there. I'll just watch all three outside
the Sound. That's an interesting genre for a while. They're camp movies like
we had like these and Ernest goes to camp. We had camp Kresty on
The Simpsons, the kids go to camp anymore. I went to camp?
Uh did goes to summer camp. I don't think he goes like overnight and
he just goes to summer camp each day. Is that what you did?
Oh? No, I was there for like a week. Yes, I
did some. I did summer camp with boy Scouts. That's what I did.
And I was there for like a week maybe two. I didn't like
it. I love it. I loved it. It was so much fun.
No, I was not a fan. It was I thought it was
kind of dirty and grips. The camp counselor stole my uh uh where he
would He kept taking my Calvin and Hobb's books. I was stuck with my
Magic School Bus book instead. Sludge Reinhold says, hello, Jeff t here
too reliable source as determined by the community of our games and rumors, grub
and my why Milk minority. Wow, hope you're all having good evenings that
it's all. Thank you, Sludge, you too. You have still a
very good name. Burrito says, Hey, guys, here's a tip for
the latest bike Club. Wanted Dan to have a bit of a terrible time.
It was not disappointed. I am satisfied. I think everyone satisfied.
Yes, guess whatever Dan had coming to him, he got it. He
got it. He has paid the blood price, lazy and gentlemen. We
got him. And he's got freaking Jake Drake of the Diny Night Dragons and
so Terminator game coming his way. Also, yeah, he'll be miserable for
a while. We are, I am It is funny, how bit it
goes like man Dance begetting it so easy. He's just played one game,
blah blah blah. Then he took time off to just like he definitely played
the worst game. Oh yeah, god, I am so glad we made
him play Superman sixty four when we did me too. That was perfect.
Big frustrating sentences. Greg Miller latched onto the Infogrames song because it's hilarious,
but he didn't invent it. It's in Infogrames og reportably cost him fifty thousand
dollars. Greg Miller, That okay, all right, all right, let's
see if I have it here you hear it? Yeah, I'm gonna play
this whole thicke. It's three and a half minutes. Makes it sounds like
Adam Sandler. Yeah, give me, give me Maady literally more juice,
Testra, I just hurt. I'm real Tournament and they shine, Superman says,
and they shot Dancing Hotline, dragon Ball, look on the doc and
that's not all sas entertainment, small programs, oh ship, It's just like
an EPCOT song. This is literally like the songs we played to step Free.
It feels like a song written by Ai today. It does rock my
world. There's planty more they got. We'll get more juice out of that
style here the last one from kind of Wood and play the infrogram song.
You won't regret it? Yeah, you're right, con Yeah, I don't
regret it. Holy shit. Okay, Well that was fantastic, man.
The part where they were just saying the names of the video games they published
and making them, that was the best part. What right when you boosted
it up? Immediately just heard Unreal Tournament, yep Tournament, test Drive,
Motivilization. There was an in sync game, I think Yeah, I said
dragon Ball, and that's not all. Okay, that's good. That's good
stuff. Very excited about that. Welcome back Infogram, We'll come back.
That's why they brought it back. They Yeah, that song was is that
powerful? Apparently? Okay, so the song can't cost fifty thousand dollars,
God damn bad. What the repenny? Yeah, I ran a company.
I'd pay fifty thousand dollars for that. That's nothing. All right, we're
done with super chats. Do you want to do you want to just shown
for riding into the topic, or you want to do a break? No,
it's like a break. Let's take it. I set it up.
Anyways, I go a bathroom. All right, we're back. Let's do
this. Uh. This week we are going to decide the best games of
twenty twenty. Uh. This was a this is the beginning of the pandemic.
I'm I'm like, and yet I'm like, I can I know a
couple of games for sure, because I associate it with the beginning of the
pandemic. But it was also I think it was also a pretty good year
for games overall. But I'm gonna have to take a look here and see
what it is. It's also weird because like this is when the PS five
and Xbox Series X launched. Okay, that's messed up when I think about
it. Messed up. Yeah, because like I saw Demon Souls on here,
which you know, I don't think that'd make it, but like I
saw it, I was like, what, No, that doesn't make sense.
Devensils is a PSI have launched game. That's a new system, not
that new. It's not that new. Yep, we are yeah, we're
getting Yeah, it's twenty twenty four. Okay, Mike, I'm gonna let
you start with this just to let people know what we do here. If
this is your first time listen to this. We go through me and Mike.
We offer up a bunch uh and then we started we have to cut
it down to a top five. We do take some input from our podcast
producers, but this list is me and Mike. We come up with this
list and we determine the order of everything. So we're gonna do that.
Now, Mike, offer up your first game for the top five games of
twenty twenty Orion The Will of the Wests. Oh oh yeah, that was
this year. That was this year. This was when I made my passionate
speed over speech over at games Beat to make it Games Beats Game of the
Year. Still probably my favorite. Metrovinya and I love metro Vinyas, and
there are so many good ones. This one pretty much has it all.
It has that kind of understated style of storytelling that I like. There's a
few textboxes here and there, but mostly things are just sort of told through
the world and through context. Incredible visual Still a gorgeous and striking game,
super fun and smooth platforming. They made the combat a lot more interesting in
this one. They made boss battles a thing here, and those are spectacular.
I still think about the final boss against Shriek in this all the time.
Just an incredible finale, a fantastic passage package all around. Or Weld
the West one of my all time favorites. Uh yeah for me, it's
this is a pretty easy one. Hades. I think this is the year
that Hades went one point. Oh you're supposed to say something about Or first,
Oh, sure, yeah, but you did such a good job and
or he is also very good. I love I do like Or quite a
bit. And when you did make your impassion speech, I'm like, yeah,
he's right, I do like it that much. And I was totally
happy to make a game of the Year for game speed. I don't know
where where one of my personal lists, I think it was top five,
but I really really do enjoy or Hades. Yeah, is this the year
that Hades went one point oh? I think it says Haites one point oh
year. And uh, that's a pretty good video game. That's a it's
a yeah, it's a really good game. That is one that I just
could not stop playing. Is it does so many things right? It does
it kind of unlocks more potential in a genre that was already finding its footing.
The roguelike genre was pretty well established at this point, and I think
people were like, well, I don't like rogue lights because I don't like
it feeling like I'm not making progress towards something. Well this solved that by
being like, here's story progression, which you probably care about even more because
you're a freak, and it's like, yeah, this is good stuff,
and every time you like do something, the game will move forward in so
many more important ways that you feel like things are going in one direction and
you haven't lost anything, and those skills that you're building up to play the
game even better that will matter more, and it is a game that actually
is pretty important to upgrade your character overall, that stuff is there as well,
but it goes to hand in hand with improving as a player. And
then the story is very good. The characters are incredible, the music is
incredible, it looks fantastic. It's such a good overall package. Yeah,
it's still definitely my favorite roguelike. But you're right because like, doing the
runs feels great, and I love how much variation there can be there.
But having that permanent progression, not just with the upgrades that you're getting,
but the way that the story is evolving in your home base is changing based
on that stuff, and there are like these goals beyond just completing a run.
It felt so good. It was an absolutely addicting, never boring experience
that I only thought because like I, you know, I was at a
point where like, okay, I kind of have at least done most of
the carts on the sticks that I care about. There could have been more,
but I could have probably kept going. I sometimes wish I would go
back to it. It's so much fun. Yeah, for YouTube game,
I'm like, looking at the rest of the games came out of this year.
I remember twenty twenty now being like the year I fell out of sync
with most other people because there were so many huge games and most of them
didn't hit for me. And it's like I did spend a lot of time
with habes. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna be just fine. Games
like this are coming out and everyone else is getting these other games that they
love. But it's like, I'm wondering where this list is going to end
up, because I'm interested to see what else you're going to get on here.
So yeah, go ahead. I see a lot of games that I
like. And another really really big one for me is Final Fantasy seven remake.
Right that was twenty twenty. Yeah, and we had Reap just now,
And you know, it's interesting people are kind of hear people kind of
talk about which one they like more. I think I might like Rebirth more.
I like the open world stuff in that a lot. I like having
a ton of goofy and silly mini games. I also really like remakes Focus.
I love that it just takes place in Midguard and they let that one
city really come alive. The stuff they did here with expanding characters like Jesse
and other Avalanche characters worked really well for me. And this introduces that combat
system, which I think is maybe the best combat system ever. It is
definitely the best way to make a marriage between a turn based RPG and something
a bit more action y. It's so good I would be happy if more
games used it. Love Love Love Fun Fantasy seven Roommate also just insane soundtrack.
Yeah, I found Fltasy seven is also one that I did enjoy.
I didn't play a ton of it, but I play. I played.
I think I got close to about ten hours, So for me, that's
quite a bit for an RPG of any kind. And the thing that clearly
stuck out to me is it's a really fun combat system. Everyone is right
about that. It really does hold up that entire game for me. And
you know, it looked great, and I thought the characters were pretty cool,
and as someone who has only ever dabbled in Final Fantasy seven, it
was like, Okay, I have always seen these characters as iconographic, and
I think they're doing a great job with them. And while I was playing
it not really fully understanding what they were trying to do with the story,
I'm like, it would be interesting if they did this, and it turns
out that's exactly the game they were making, and I think that's cool.
And I know fans have their debates about that, but from where I'm standing,
I think they took a cool stab at something new and different for a
remake, and I think that's really really neat for me. I think the
next one I probably would go with is probably Spider Man Miles Morales. Actually,
I wow, yeah, yeah, I'm a big fan of Miles Morales,
the character and the game, and I think this is like such a
good refinement, such a good expand alone of let's take the same city,
Let's take this character that we established in the first game. Let's let players
plays that character and keep things a little bit more limited. And everything is
improved by that. And I don't think that necessarily the story holds up to
Peter Parker's story in that first Spider Man game, but it's good enough,
and I think everything else is better just because they were, like, knew
what was fun and they just did that instead. And they definitely learned their
lesson for Spider Man two as well. But Miles Morales really holds up for
me. Yeah, and hey, it's area I love the Christmas five.
That's a ton of fun. Yes, kind of Maybe you want to go
back to it every Christmas. Just see New York snowy and you get just
do that opening mission, right. I think that opening mission. I still
think that opening mission is way better than Spider Man two's opening mission with the
sad Man. I know that people were really blown away by that, but
it didn't work for me at all, And it was part of that was
remembering how much I love Miles Morales's opening mission. Uh, okay, I
am going to actually go with Streets Rage four next. Oh that's a good
one. I'm glad you remember that. Yeah, Streets of Rage four was
a man. This series had been dormant for in insanely long time. Would
have never thought it was coming back, And then we got this awesome version
with this gorgeous to the art that I really love the way this game looks.
They kind of made the combat system very similar to to but a bit
more complex in some ways. There's more juggling and things like that, a
ton of more playable characters. This game would later get pretty good DLC also
including a roguelike mode that I played through. Streets of Rage four a ton
of times, really really love it. I think this is part of what
made Beat Them Ups have a bit of a comeback there for a while.
Maybe still going on, but this was a huge factor there. Good,
good, good stuff. I think it's I think it's the best Beat them
up ever in my opinion. I really really enjoy it. And I am
so impressed that you know, this is true for a lot of these games
that are in this this zone of indies where it's like they want to keep
updating, keep adding new stuff, and it's gonna get like a Rogue Lake
mode of its own. It does. It's got that. It's very good
played. Every time my sister in law comes over, she's a big streets
Rage fan. My wife is a big streets Rage fan. That they've played
together as kids. Yes, they've played together as kids. As sisters,
they were like always playing streets Rage two usually, but they played all of
them, and so I was like, I like streets Rage as well.
This new one's out, let's play it. And the sister in law always
brings over her copy and she's played it a ton, so she has everything
unlocked, and it's like such a cool game when you do have everything.
They did such a good job with that out of the gate, and the
fact that they kept supporting it making it better. It is such a good
game at this point. Tony Hawk's pro Skater one plus two. Yes,
this is kind of a forever game for me at this point where I just
play this game whenever I need to just turn something on and turn my brain
off. It is. They really nailed it, and it's never soft or
not never soft. It was a god the name of the students. No,
it's the one that got absorbed into not fulition. Vicarious Visions, Thank
you, Vicarious Visions. Going back to Tony Hawk after working on a lot
of the ports for a very long time back in the day, and they
just nailed the feel in such a in all the crucial ways, and it
looked cool, and they did cool things like update the Tony Hawk bottle to
make them look old and have them re record his grunts, so that was
it was old Tony Hawk and all that stuff was a really nice touch.
But it's like you just go back these levels and you remember where everything was
and how they feel, and they still feel that way, and then it
just like holds up in a modern way and the soundtrack is mostly fully intact.
They just did such a good job with this game. Yeah, it's
just Tony August is so good and this is just a fantastic way to play
it now. It looks awesome an time. I love the way they kind
of combined to Wanted two into one game. That seals, right, and
you know, there's like a separation there, but it is kind of one
game and I love that. Yeah, I could play this whenever they did
job as one of the best remakes ever. Okay, I can go a
few places. I think I'm actually gonna go with thirteen Sentinels next though,
right, I was wondering if this would come up. Yeah, and I
didn't. I didn't play Toil quite a bit later when it came to the
switch. But you know, that's a slightly different version, but not much.
It's the same game. Thirteenth Sentinels is largely a visual novel with very
light kind of like playing click adventure game elements in that stuff. But it's
that mix with this kind of RTS tower defense mode also, and both aspects
of it actually worked for me really well. I like the way Vanilla ware
games look a lot. I think that they're really shrinking, and they do
a good job of making something that is unique. Not much else looks like
it. And even though like this game's kind of high concept and it's the
plot is a bit twisty and weird, sometimes that stuff doesn't work for me
at all. This worked for me. There was enough of a logic to
it, and it ultimately went somewhere satisfying that I liked the narrative of it
all. This was just a very satisfying playthrough for me. I really enjoyed
my time with Thirteen Sentinels, and you love those naked teens. Yeah,
you had to say it. Well, well, you said I have to
say some about every game, and that's what I said about that. Now,
Jeff, I did bring this upon myself. You're right, Yes you
did. I'm saying it's your fault. You got it all right. I
think the next one I would go with his Animal Crossing New Horizons, important
pandemic game. I think it really hit. Obviously, it hit really well.
We talked about that a ton, but it's just a good fun game.
I think evidence of that is the fact that, like, you never
really got an animal crossing before. I think you had a pretty good time
with this game, right, Yeah, I liked Animal Crossing. Okay,
this is definitely the most I played of one. This to me is the
most twenty twenty game. This is the first game I think of when I
think about the pandemic, I think about twenty twenty. This game got a
bigger switch bump than anything Animal Crossing always did like good and then this was
a massive hit in a way that it was just really interesting to see.
My fairite thing about this game is the glow up that the museum got.
I loved how much of the museum looked like an actual, like naturally asser
museum in this one. That was a ton of fun. It was great
just decorating my island. You know. Of course, there are some Nintendo
stuff that still made it obnoxious or more annoying than it had to be to
visit people's islands and all that stuff, But so much what was fun about
this was the zeitgeist. Everybody was playing this game. Everybody was talking about
it. It was neat yep, and huge parts of it are like,
that's still Animal Crossing. I know other people have issues with like, oh,
the villagers aren't quite as interesting as they used to be in my opinion
or whatever. I'm like, yeah, okay, everything kind of hit and
worked for me. And that's a big part of that is I like the
villagers being around. I don't need to interact with them a ton. I
am the museum. That is what I'm going for. So just going fishing,
finding things, that's, you know, having these daily activities, living
on my own. That's the kind of stuff I like out of that game.
They really got all those things right, anythils from you? I think,
yes, I did speak again, excuse me, that one's on me.
You're such an idiot, Mike. Here, I can go up myself
too. It's fine, half life Alex. Oh yeah, that's right.
You played this game, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah I did.
And you know, it's weird because I like this game a lot.
I think it's quality is undeniable, and I was still kind of miserable playing
it, just because it is a VR game, and I get kind of
queasy and sick. And my room wasn't like quite big enough for it's like
barely big enough, which isn't really big enough, but I think it is
still. So it's you as to make what's the best VR game? It's
so obviously either this or Astro, and like there's some other things in between.
But man, there's a lot going on with Half Life Alex. It's
it's commendable that they really wet for it that hard on a VR game.
Of course they were a bit you know, they hadn't sent them because they
were selling VR headsets, so they had to make a killer app. I
also just like Half Life a lot. Halfway two is one of my favorite
games ever, so at least in some way getting a new Halfway game not
in some way it's like really just getting a new half of like game that
was fantastic. Yeah, I didn't. I played out Alex up until the
dingy underground parts. Then I got too spooked and then I never went back
to it, and I want to, especially now with the Quest three and
then Networks so well wirelessly, I'm like, I should just play that game
again. I'll find some time for it. And I know everyone loves that
game, so what I played of it was amazing. So and I'm not
too surprised to hear that you you put it on the list. I think
probably the last one for me is Clubhouse Games fifty one Worldwide classics. Clubhouse
Games is one I really loved on DS and it was one Okay, you
can just could do your little thing, but you always do whenever her game
comes up that you're like, it'stop for me. When it doesn't register on
the backlar important scale get to you. I love Clubhouse Games on the DS.
I dought Clubhouse Games on on Switch was really neat. They did a
great job of making these games feel so tactile and shiny, and all the
pieces like like look really expensive, and it just feels really nice, like
to actually play the games. It was the kind of game where you know,
I could bring the switch into bed and me and Steph would play the
Yatzi Clone in there every night before bed, and that was really fun.
Yeah. I don't know. I think they just nailed it. It's not
maybe quite as fun as as the DS one that has all the like the
touch screen games, the stylists that worked that way. There are touch screen
games in this, I think, but it's like it wasn't quite the same,
but the overall presentation was so incredibly done. I just I really love
Clubs Games. Jeff. I'm sorry that I had to unleash them a naughty
judgments soon. Listen, I knew it was coming. I knew it would
come, but it still hurts. It does. Here's the thing, because
I thought you're gonna say something else, and I have a game that I
think you're going you would, you would myself sure higher than clubus Games.
And that's Astro's play Room. Oh sure, yes, Astro's Playroom. Definitely
that is. It's funny because it's like the cute little packet thing to show
you, like what the what your PS five is like. It's still maybe
the best PS five game. Honestly, it's probably still my favorite. Yeah,
it still feels so good to play. And look it's Member Barry's but
I love all the cameos and they go deep with it, right like you
do have jumping flash in there is not just Kratos and a Treas, it's
all these things. It still does the most with showing why the Polication five
dual Sense controller is cool and almost a disappointing way because it's never quite as
good as it is in other games as it is in this. And of
course we had so much fun with the speedrunt challenges. It was fantastic.
Yeah, I mean god, It's a game I played, you know,
before I beat it. Years later I put eighty ninety hours into it speed
running it, and it ruled. It was so much fun to get into
that. And huge part of that is it's just it's it doesn't try to
do a lot. The things it does in terms of movement and mechanics are
very simple, but they're very well done. It feel really good. You
understand what's gonna happen every time you hit the jump and you do the laser
double jump and everything, and then everything around that surrounding it with like you
said, having the living museum that you're walking through at all times, or
just like, all right, we're gonna go through a GPU stage and there's
gonna be this amazing song about how the GPU like makes your games work and
all that stuff. It's so cute and well done and like feels like people
that yeah, it's it's joyful and they nailed it so and uh, you
know, that's a game that the kids go back to pretty frequently still and
everyone in a while just hear that GPU song and be like, oh,
that's so nice. So yeah, I love Astros play Room. Is uh,
is there one we could we want to bring up that's conspicuous in its
absence. Well, I mean probably, but I can't think of anything else.
Uh okay, wait, unless you're trying to make a reference to a
game that we're not gonna put it on here, I don't know, you
know, bus I played eight hours of it and I thought it was like,
I think it's a game that has some cool mechanics. Actually, but
I just I stopped playing it. I stopped having fun. Yeah. I
played ten hours of Last of Us Part two and I liked the first one
even and then yeah, ten hours into it, I just felt like oppressed.
I was just like, gosh, right, and I think I said
it before, I've had enough of these miserable people with these in their miserable
problems. I related, that's right, And then I do a maternal.
A lot of people mentioning that we'll get to the podcast producers here in a
second. I do Maternal is one where it's like I played Doune twenty sixteen,
loved it so much, and I was like waiting for doing Maternal,
and then the reviews were like just like on the edge that I'm like,
I'll get around to that, and then I never did. It's one I
really want to go back and play, but I just never have. There's
some other ones at chat I see. I bet our podcast producers are going
to bring them up. If not, we will, But yeah, there's
a there's a few where don't we check out? What this question? All
right? Yeah, give me a second to get that, like perfectly so,
No, it looks like it's mostly set up. There we go?
Is this? This is from the ten Dogs podcast? Threads right there and
then I click on this. There we go? All right? Dann Fiasco
says Haites, which, yeah, that's already on the list for obvious reasons.
Ben Seven says Genschin Impact. Have you ever even played Genschin Impact.
I played a little bit of Genschen Impact. I like both got it and
kind of didn't get it, if that makes any sense. Yeah, Tommy
Pencil says Crusader King's three. This is one I definitely tried to understand.
H I played. I played a bunch of this, and it's like,
I feel like I played enough to like understand it, but I didn't play
enough of it to know why people love it so much. Yeah, it's
clearly a lot there. I knows deep and I usually pride myself on somebody
being able to jump into any genre, and this was still a bit beyond
me. I had to say I couldn't at least, I wasn't able to
stickle stickle with it long enough to find the fun. Right. I could
see it was there, I could since its presence is the storytelling, right,
the emergence storytelling. I was, I was starting to get some of
that. It's just like, I think maybe I need to play it on
stream or something. Uh bubbs e g says or in the will of the
wisps. Absolutely, Hospital says spirit Fair that's when you played right. Spirit
Fair is a cute game. That is a good I didn't beat or anything,
but I did enjoy for a bit, very nice artwork. Look,
it is a cozy game, but it's a it's a good cozy game.
It's good. Yeah, but it's my dead animals, right, so that
makes it bad? Yeah? Yeah, it's back on your good edge of
Lord's side. Yeah. I like that they're all fucking dead. Uh screaming
Madden says, I know I can't parse this mic. What is happening here?
I don't know. There's me and you was this when we were doing
our rby stick. That can't possibly be. That had to be a little
bit later. I feel like, yeah, well maybe not because like gosh
dang it, because when the podcast started popping off, it was when we
were talking about like Xbox Series S because you had to hit it behind you.
Man. I was definitely still I was definitely still in Uh. Columbus
was a crusader. See a picture of Madden served delicious served delicious three.
Yes, that makes sense. There we go, Okay, well you may
that game up. No, that's our real thing. Okay, sounds nice.
I offer dis naked. That's good, more naked in the next one.
Somehow She's like, well she's still the same amount of naked, but
she thrusts it forward there. Yeah, it's a new pose. I like
that. Yeah, she puts it in your face. Yes, hades of
course, Jill and neck. There it is. Uh. Nick Turbo says,
Yakuza like a dragon. It's a very good game and one that I
wish I like, I only fell off of it, not because I wasn't
enjoying the games because other things happened and I wish I did it. Yeah,
I bet I could go back to it. And enjoy it even more
now that I played so much like a dragon Infinite Wealth. I did play
some like a Dragon. I do remember the like trying to find the like
a phantom pisser or whatever you like, to find the guy that was actually
Peen, and I really liked that quest and that made me want to play
more of the game. Uh Freedom. Mcleberty ball says, a Doom eternal
anime is temporary. Doom is eternal. Yes, I was talking about this
earlier my show. I don't know why this one didn't hit from me like
the previous Doom did. And I know most people have a problem with the
first person platforming. I don't. I like first person platforming. I don't
know if it was the long levels or what. And it's a good game
and I like it, but it didn't wow me. I love doing twenty
sixteen, so I need to play it and decide for myself. Cass buckeros
is thirteen Sentinels. Agus m joy Z says this is Kentucky Root zero Kentucky
Road zero. Right to Get the last episode came out this year, right,
Yeah, so we finally had the full collection. Sure, we played
this in the game as a game club. It was not really my thing.
I'll tell you what, you want to make Dan play a game that
will be torturous to him, if somehow you could force him to play Kentucky
Root zero, feel like you wouldn't be able to actually force him to do
it. Yeah, I think there's no I think you just wouldn't. Yeah,
I think he just wouldn't. Doctor Ryan says The Last of Us Part
two. There it is h there's that game. There's Ellie. I remember
I thought this was the this was the Boxer. People were still shocked that
like characterism. Ye uh do you know? Revenge is bad? Mike uh
Low Rules says China Fantasy seven remake. It's so good. Absolutely, it
is the Buster Sword the coolest video game weapon. I mean the key blade.
I'm I think I am partial to the fucking gun sword that what's the
same has a squall has? Yeah? Yeah, they were on a pretty
good role there for a while. We went some cool weapons. I do
think the Buster sword rules. Yes, I don't know what this is.
That's uh that come on the Three Sentinels again? That that that lady has
a medic played this game? Well, it just looks so Vanilla Warish,
I guess so when I see the movement. Yes, uh Fhlobatron says Ghost
of Sushima played a little haven't brought up yet? Huh? Yes, I
played that. Yes, I played a little bit of this game. Uh.
My plan is when it launches on PC, I'm hopping on. I'm
jumping on this game and playing it for real. This time, I played
through all of it. I liked it quite a lot. It didn't like
Super Stick with me in any big way, but I had a lot of
fun while I was playing it. Jamie h says Highral Warriors Age of Calamity.
I was like, I know people like this game. I was wondering
if anyone would mention it for Game of the Y or like their favorite game
of twenty twenty. I know people like that. As from a lot of
people think it's not as good as the first Hyral Warriors, sure, because
it's like more focused. I think, what what do you want from a
Warriors game that's based on Zelda. It's like, hey, everything's in there,
that's what it's fun about. The the other ones like, yeah,
here's like Tunelink and you yeah, and the fucking skullcare or whatever. Like
everybody, everyone's here, and now it's like it has to be an actual
prequel to a real Zelda game, and it kind of felt less for that.
Willow Davis says Animal Crossing New Horizons, which one of my favorite things
about New Horizons or any Animal Crossing game is just seeing other people's stuff,
just seeing people's characters having their fun, and it is so nice. Elie
Mera Servesa Crystal says Graham Blue Fantasy Versus. Yes, yeah, versus.
This is like the most three fighter two game ever created by artist's so good
and he was so unlucky. Did the pandemic killed it? And he had
a bandko Yes when game came out, shut down happened. It was so
unfortunate. That's what Ali Miracle has in Here is a meme about how Side
Games released it during the pandemic with bad with no rollback, and then later
updated with rollback after the pandemic. So yeah, killing the game. Mister
Buller says, Bug Snacks a game that I think is interesting. I never
played a ton of it. I tried it was it didn't hit for me.
Yeah. I reviewed this game, I played through all of it.
I think I give a through Off five. I liked it, but I
didn't love it. Yeah, always be closed. This is the other one
we didn't mention, Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven. I know, I know,
God, I know you love this game. I didn't like this game playing
it like last year or whatever when it was supposedly good. I can't imagine
what I would have thought of it in twenty twenty. Yeah. Uh,
I think got game is fine. I don't. I don't like it that
much though, so it's not gonna make this list. Fusion says the last
of Us Part two, Matt Rare Rare next game here says track Mania is
just like just straight up did they just straight up call it track Media or
which version of this is it? I never played many of this. I
never tracked Mania. Yeah, he's just like the new one. Yeah,
like track Mania, But I was always more of a Trials guy. Trials
was my kind of like start over and over and over again. Bench j
C says Persona five royal, Mike, do you want to consider royal?
I mean, look, we gave we gave a lot of Persona games their
flowers and in cleaning the base version of Persona five. Ye, if you
know you did, not you piece of ship. You don't even like near
automata you put that on it. I do like dear Automa. I like
it a lot. J. D. Camp says Microsoft Flight Simulator, which
I do appreciate everyone trying to stump me with their with their images here,
but uh that the chats helper, the producer's help, likey putting it down
here, like, oh yeah that is flight Simular and you could see the
gauges down there, but it's a Millennium Falcon flying in San Francisco with fucking
Godzilla attacking. Oh yeah, I should go back to that game from the
new one. Yeah, that's right, there's a new one coming out this
year. I'll play that and I'll install something of those mods at that point
and have some fun. Shea Miro says Fasmophobia. Yeah, I played that
like recently, and I like, I had a good time with it.
Is this the one you made me play with you? Yeah? Yeah,
maybe make it sound like that made me play with you. Yeah, I
was fine. I had fun with my friend. A great video game.
Yeah, I'm good at it. I mean as good as PERSONA five.
Right. Sean Alex says Haites Goarham says Astros Player Room Casual says like a
dragon. Uh, Breadfish says Half Life. Alex Colorado Colorado Knights of the
Whole Republic says like a dragon. Uh. The Rebirth Wolf five says.
Crash Bandicoot for It's about time. Oh here's one I forgot. I love
Crash Bandicoot for that is a super fun three D platformer, a lot of
challenge, tons of great level diversity, really fun level themes of gosh gosh,
I crash Mad Cook Force awesome. Actually, I do want to consider
that one. No clubhouse games. Uh, that's your promise. It's not
as good as clubhouse games. That's right. Two Time Champ bf Amber says,
or and the Will of the wisps. Oh no, I broke it.
Knee deep in blood and gut says Pickment three Deluxe, which, yeah,
god man kind of. I might consider it, but it's not going
to be able to make it. Oh shit. Boomer of the Vault twenty
one says Hard Space Shipbreaker, which is a fantastic game. Yeah, but
we're you know, our list is fulfilled with that. Clubhouse has a really
good version of Solitaire. Oh my god. His as Clumbus games. I'm
gonna tax them all. Signs here ready to know that would happen? Look,
put PERSONA five on the list and we can talk. Grub Oh man,
you're shut out of luck there. The Final Fantasy Guy says Final Fantasy
seven remake h Doom and the rise there. Final Fantasy Guy Doom Dubidal Crossing
says Doom eternal. I was like wanting to waiting to see if this gift
turned into animal crossing, just by the loves there of that year. T
money Og says like a dragon lots like a dragon love by way, I
think animal crossing got the better end of that doom animal crossing thing. Yeah,
a little bit, a little bit service gain, said Risk of Rain
two, a game I do enjoy and maybe we'll go back to eventually.
I mean it's haities, but also golf on Mars. I like golf on
Mars, remember that, man, Yeah. Warden Cliff says Spider Man Miles
Morales, which as always, like these Spider Man games don't get mentioned.
That excuse me that often in these lists from from the community, it feels
like I think everyone likes these games. I don't think anyone really puts it
a and number one for their year. Yeah, like, I don't know.
I bet it was in my top five. I don't know if it
would have been my number one. I know it was my number one,
but yeah, Morales. Morales was very good as a launch game. I
know it's cross platform, but I liked it a lot at having it there.
For the launches, I've had a good launch. This is a big
reason why, big reason why. Johnny Boy says world or says Clubhouse Games
fifty one Worldwide Games. I know you think that this isn't like serious enough
of a game, but I'm gonna let I'm gonna let it slide this time.
He won't punish Johnny Boy, but maybe they watch your step next next
time. Honey u B says Final Fantasy seven remake. The Honey Honey be
in Secrets was a very good Everything in a Wallmarket or whatever it's called,
was a lot of That's a fun game. I love fol Fantasy seven remake.
Uh Lily Wu Lee Wu says spider Man Miles Morales. All right,
there's another one. Adam GC says fall Guys. A game I like,
but I'm not gonna consider for my game is I like fall guys a lot.
If it was just be I might I still go back to it sometimes,
I say with my brothers and my friends. It's good stuff. Hammond
of Texas says Microsoft Flight simulator Lenny Cool, Dick Dimber says Ghost of Sushima
beautiful. Zoub says Spirit Fairer Vision forty nine is like a dragon. Leah
the Hottest Mess says Final Fantasy seven remake. Teriaky Blue says Gears Tactics an
actual, really good game that I just doesn't really I just didn't care enough
about the world to play through a taxi games of it. But what I
did play was very well done. I never played a second. I have
no idea what this even looks like. Actually, I'm kind of curious about
it. It looks like x COM. It looks a lot like x com.
Clink says, is this thirteen Sentinels? I got it. I'm gonna
get there eventually. Lazier Wolf says Animal Crossing New Horizons. Input nam here
So also says thirteen Sentinels. That's right. The kid was a gun.
That's a kid with a fucking gun and a bunny in her purse. Okay,
I was about to spoil it, but I actually don't remember, so
I can't even spoil it. Wieze Man says Hades. Caleb l says,
oh, oh yeah, Super Mario thirty five. Man, a lot of
good games this year not playing. I don't know why I didn't play more
of this at the time. I wish it did. I really enjoyed it.
I wish it was still alive. Mex said, animal crossing with their
villager in a prison like a Dylan Infinite Wealth says, like a dragon.
Mitsurugi said, Wasteland three. Man, that's a game I've wanted to play
more of. Brian Fargos, I was just, I was just I was
streaming. I was asking people, h is anyone else thinking about these old
game developers, like like Richard Garriott? Or is that me being a boomer?
And then the everyone's pretty quick to tell me it's me being a boomer.
I think about him sometimes. Mike Adam says the Last of Us Part
two, uh An and Panada Eater says the final Fantasy seven remake, the
Hell House. Yes, so it's a good fight, so many good boss
fights in that game. Nick says, laf Life, Alex incredible. Nick
what a good The best part of this game was just messing around in the
world. And this is a gift of someone drawing a penis on a wall
very early on. It's like you can actually use the market. Yeah,
this is pretty cool. Actually, thank you, very cool. Wong Gift
says Streets of Rage four and Ghost of Sushima. Jodakis says Final Fantasy seven
remake. Christian says a mogus we already considered a munggus of twenty eighteen when
the mobile version debut. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, all right, all
right, what turbo shots said Persona five Royal because you assholes left off Vanilla
Persona five in twenty seventeen. Well, maybe it'll make it this time.
I don't think. My confidence is not high. It's not gonna happen,
all right. I was shocked to find out apparently that new like party member
is like only with you for like a dungeon or two or something, or
joins you narrow. She's there in the entire game, Mike, which you
would know if you played it. You were talking about I party for the
final See, well that's what I told about. That's what I mean,
your party. I don't mean, I'm sure she's like in the background or
she talks to you, but like, yeah, I'm sure, yeah,
very very very good. What's the game you wanted to put on here?
Crash Betacoot four. I'llel great about its chances? Is it a crash through
Time? What's the subtitle? It's about time? It's about That's right,
that's good. Thank you for including the subtitles. You know how I am
about that? Oh? I know, yeah, you're a stickler, all
right. So we have Orient The Will of the Whisps Hades, Uh Final
Fantasy seven remake, Marvel spider Man, Miles Morales, Streets of Age four,
Tony Hawk's pro Skater one plus two, Thirteen Sentinels, Agus Rim,
Animal Crossing, New Horizons, Half Life Alex, Clubhouse Games fifty one Worldwide
Classics. There's fifty one games in there. That's play Room, Got Checkers,
Ant Chess, Hard, Space Shipbreaker and back Ammon, Crash Maanicoot for
It's About Time Chinese Checkers. I think so yeah, Holy shack, Okay,
rock me baby like a wagon, We rock me away. You feel
you're pricked up for Clubhouse games? Let's gone. Yeah, I'm all girl,
Bastard over here. All right, I'm listen. We're gonna move up
Orion Hades right away and probably Final Fantasy seven remake if I know you?
Is that? Does that sound right? Sounds there's a lot of good games
here, But that sounds right. There's so many good games. Actually,
a lot of games gives we like a lot of games I really like.
I would like to. I'd probably move a Bastro's playroom. I think we
should. That is that game? Just me and you very much, Jam,
We bonded a lot over that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely as playroom.
Yeah. Now it's hard because there's a bunch of games that I want
to get on there and we're just running out, like you scroll down a
little bit so I could like, oh sure, yeah yeah yeah what else
is Peak consider? Yeah? Look yeah, Crash isn't gonna make it.
It sucks. I like a lot of it feels just my top five maybe
a hard call over here. I don't even I don't even think Catholic Fox
quite makes it. Again, I just I hate that Doc things are just
like that being the kind of game they are. But VR is just only
Kelly is so much for me because it just inherently makes me sick. What
am I supposed to do when a game inherently makes me sick? How I
overlook that? I just don't know. I just don't know. It's difficult.
Well, okay, so wait, what are you thinking about moving out?
I think the three I'm really thinking about, Well, there's four.
There's four that I think I'm really thinking about. I think I lean towards
Street to Rage four personally, streets Rage four is one of them. Myles
Browse Tony Hawk wanted two Animal Crossing off definitely again, like I says,
for Animal Crossing is such the twenty twenty game for me in a lot of
ways. Yeah, and I feel good about that. But then that's let
me tell you what. Honestly, leaving off Tony Hawk and streets Rage is
really tough for me. Let me tell you. We could take off off
of seven remake. Okay, let's do it. I like it a lot.
It doesn't need to be on here, it's fine, and we could
put up Streets of Rage and Animal Crossing. Cool. I'm okay with that
because it is, you know, it's remakes. I didn't understand, I
know, I know, yeah, yeah, totally, And I like,
I mean, God, I love Animal Cross the answers, so those are
both my picks or no. Streets Rates was worse, but I would have
picked it had you not. I wish you guys could feel the little hard
attack I just had Royal Well Jesus remake, of course, But like this
is you know, this is a I gotta be considerate here. It's not
just a feature. Your uh, okay, all right? So that means
we are cutting Marvel, spider Man, Miles Morales, Tony Hawk's pro Skater
one plus two, Thirteen Sentinels, Ages, Rim, Half Life, Alex,
Clubhouse Games fifty one, Worldwide Classics, Heart Space, Shipbreaker, Crash,
Bandicoot, for It's About Time, Final Fantasy seven remake. I have
to say goodbye to a bunch of board games, my cast, Sigabyte,
to a bunch of naked teens. We all have to make sacrifices, all
hurting over a year. We're all hurting. Uh And that means in our
top five Unordered at the moment, Orion, The Wild of Whips, Whisps,
Hades, Astros, play Room, Streets of Rage, four, Animal
Crossing, New Horizons. Oh, I do hate not having Pop remake on
there, but it's over. It's over. It's over. Got Ort number
one last time? Can we play Hades A number one? I was gonna
say, I think probably Hades number one is so freaking good. You're right,
I Hades is just yeah, Hades is. It'ssanely high quality. One
of the most quality games I can think of. Gosh, yeah, it's
just it's like kind of the ideal video game to me at a certain point.
They just do everything right. I think about when I play modern games
today and the first game that comes to mind, like it would be better
if they did stuff that it's more like Hades, you know, if the
upgrades were more like Hades. If like I was, if this dash move,
I could keep upgrading the dash move so that when I dashed into bullets
they were bounced back and stuff. I love that stuff. I love that
stuff. And it's like Hades nailed that better than any other game at that
time and pretty much any other game since then other than now Hades too.
Coming out with the technical test, all right, I'm looking at this.
I think I'm mostly okay with the rest of the list as is, what
do you think, Yeah, actually think I pretty go with it. As
is right now, that's uh pretty right to me. Man, It's interesting.
We uh, this is an US list. This is a very sing
to be upset have left You're right, we left off a lot of the
triple big triple A gaves that most people cared about this, and many of
those aren't even in the short list. Wen't even consider that. Actually,
what everyone's oh, we're gonna be in trouble. Oh boys, already right,
that's just a taste of it. Oh boy, I've already lost the
ball. Yeah, in trouble this time. Yeah. No one's gonna agree
with us on Streets of Rage far wrong, absolutely not, but wrong about
that. That's the new problem, right, that's we're right, yeah,
exactly, Okay, it's not our fault. Streets Rage four is definitely better
than the last of us part two. I'm sorry, Oh god, oh
god, yes, all right. Uh the list one more time. Number
one hades than or in the well of the lisps Astros Playroom Streets Rage four
and rattening out the top five is Animal Crossing New Horizons. Mike, we
did good work here, we did. There's a bit of me. It's
like, why do I let animal Crossing on there and get rid of remake.
But it's done. It's done. It's done, it's done, and
it looks pretty good. It looks good to me, So thank you for
doing that. All Right, we're gonna take one last break and we'll come
back and talk about what we've been playing. And we're back, and I
just decided I'll leave up the list for a little bitau I did just posted
to Twitter. Some people come in here and yell at us. Yeah,
all right, Mike, what have you been playing. I've been playing a
handful of games, but interested to hear your Mini shoot Adventures maybe. Yeah,
That's what's been really exciting this week for me is Mini shoot Adventures.
This is a It's the easiest pitch, is it? Zelda as a twin
stick shooter, especially the old top down Zelda's Dan record actually recommended this to
us. You played first, and then I jumped on it, and yep,
this is fan freaking fantastic. This just feels so good to play.
It really is like as simple as that pitch, and yet they find ways
to make it work wonderfully. It's very simple, right, This is not
a game with the dialogue box JPEGs trying to add some ghost. It's a
game. It's very due. It's like zeld it's mostly like Zoto one.
Really you do just kind of start. In fact, there's like, did
you see the one screen that is just the first zouda one screen complete with
where the cave is and everything. Like that's awesome. I don't know if
I did notice that. I did. I thought the first dungeon was like,
oh my god, this is the most Zelda one ass dungeon. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So like there are dungeons and you get upgrades.
You know, it's a little Metro Vanu, but it's more Zelda thing.
But there's also like leveling up, and you level up, you get points.
You can increase things like your fire rate, your damage or your fire
distance and all that stuff. So you have like the persistent upgrades even just
like the UI is very good, like when you level up, these little
rocks that get put into like your jar, and that's really satisfying to see.
Like the sound design very good. The whole thing is just an incredible
delight. I don't know. There's a whole lot of people talk about this
game right now. It came out this month. I think it should definitely
hasn't done positive on sweat Steam. I think I think people that are playing
it are getting it, and it's only on Steam right now. Again,
there is a demo. I think progress carries over, so I think you
should do yourself favorite check it out. I understand it works very well on
your Steam deck and probably other portable devices. It is the kind of thing
where I'm playing it, it's like it's doing all those simple things, but
it's doing them so well, and all those simple things are the kinds of
game styles that tickle my brain, like, yeah, the Zelda great,
that's the kind of exploration and the fact that they do just get into it,
don't have a ton of text that works for me fantastic. But then
like the combat is, yeah, it's dualstick shooter, but it's not like
I suppose it is like Robotron or Geometories, but it feels very bullet hellish,
and that is like, ooh, that's a cool feeling to be like,
all right, that's the combat. And now I like bullet hells,
but I don't like playing through a whole bullet hell schmuck. These days,
I'm mostly like I need something else and going to be really stressful because they
like you know, have things like big game overs and you're kind of bright
things over a lot here, like the bullethill segments. You know, if
you fail it, you go back a little bee start over, and a
lot of times it's like the big set piece of mom It's like boss fights,
right, but it's like I'm getting into it. I'm like in the
zone and I'm like doing the like the finesse movements through all the bullets,
and I'm like, oh, I'm nailing this. This is great. And
it's because it is in like bite sized chunks. It's not the whole thing,
so I can like save up that the reserve of all of the parts
of my brains it takes to actually accomplish those things and come at it and
tackle them, and it just makes you feel so cool. And then you
get then you geld to go explore this world and your unlucky new abilities and
your little ship can do cool things it couldn't do before. And that's that,
Like, you know, the Metro Advanue style stuff really nails it.
I love that you just are as sentient spaceship or whatever. You're not a
person controlling as ship. You are as ship. Yep, it's uh And
I got the upgrade of like all the little crystals you get going into that
that bigger crystal and like filling it up and like the piling up inside there,
Like that looks so great. Everything. It just is a really well
polished take on all these ideas that I'm just I continue to be blown away
by it. And I started playing it. I just couldn't put it down
last night. I've played a ton more of it. Yes, many shoot
adventures. Everybody is the name of that one? Uh? Yep? I
think it's fifteen dollars on Steam. It's around there. Yeah. Yeah.
So for my favorite comment on Twitter after you posted our top five from twenty
twenty was the one that says, I didn't even know Streets of Reach four
existed. Law. That's pretty good. Actually, there's lot of people are
very happy we put it on there. Yes, I'm glad to see that.
That's nice. And the Tokyo Game Life says, why waste your money
in five games when you could get fifty games? Very good pay, very
good? All right? Uh I I did uh? I played that Tales
of Canzera zo I talked a little bit about did I talk about that on
on the Less Than ten Dogs. I can't remember the way. I feel
like you've talked about it somewhere. I've talked about it a bunch, but
yes, exactly, it's like it's it's it's worth checking out if you think
that the story looks good and the characters look cool, because that stuff does
work. But then other than that, I'm like kind of like looking around
for the next game. Any Shoot Adventures definitely has overtaken me a lot,
right, and I'm glad it has, but I'm like going back to expeditions.
I started another Crabs Treasure today. I played that on stream a little
bit. I my system was like being really weird, so I'm like,
I couldn't tell if it was the game sort of lagging and chugging because it's
the game isn't optimized, or because my system was breaking. I'm going to
chalk it up to my system. At this point, I want to go
back to that and like play it for real and see how it feels.
But as I was playing it on stream, it's like, yeah, I
think I'm getting this, But the Dark Soul's side of everything, the Soul's
like aspects, I'm like Okay, can I be Dodd rolling out of the
way of these attacks? And it's like some of them felt like I really
couldn't, So I'm gonna have to like figure out how those work, I
figure out the rules of the world a little bit more. But you know,
the Perry system does feel pretty good and I like that. And then
I played a little bit more Stellar Blade as well, and the Perry system
and there feels really good. I'm like decigning which pary system am I going
to go with. I think I am probably leaning towards Stellar Blade though at
the moment. Beyond that, though, Yeah, it's been a lot of
mini shoot adventures and fall Out New Vegas. I started a run of that
that's been That's actually been really good. I am really liking that game quite
a lot. I'm like three four hours in and I'm already like, feel
the hooks in me. I want to be playing it all the time,
but I'm playing it on stream for Giant Bomb, so I'm like, well,
to find more time on the site so I can make that happen more
frequently. That's really working for me. Uh, that probably does it for
me, though, Mike, anything else you've been playing, no I mean,
you know, more than a corn overlord, but not have anything new
to say, just still really enjoying it and I'm excited to play more.
Yep, all right, I think we should wrap this show up. More
super chests. Oh yes, let's hit those and then we'll hit the music.
Mike, what are the super chests? Chris Quinton says, Manati's apple
orcher? How do you even say that word? I don't deal with orchards
very often? Or orchard? I thought he was right. He's he's talking
about it like an apple orchard. He hates apple so much he's never even
considered an orchard. Manate's Apple orchards CEO Mike Manatti and the man who's in
for a blighting but can't survive it because he's viewed by prime Jeff Grubb?
Is there a game mess Jeopardy this month? I love you guys either way,
keep it up? Yeah? Are we gonna do one this month?
The plan is next Friday, because I've been busy reviewing stuff. Okay,
making it Friday? T Bucket twenty three sins Can we get Mike to personate
Jeff after Jeff Frey? Mike helping Dan out of Super Dan sixty four got
sure or something like, uh it was? It was, certainly it's McNaughty
and I'm going home, damn record game. I feel like if I try
to do a shooting personation of you, it would be more offensive somehow,
I think i'd agree. Yes, sounds like I got into the characterisation.
Yeah, yeah, the broad Way to describe my voices. I don't know
if Italian it is one of the really uh look Disney Plus. I got
a Disney Plus and just like in the Home Country, uh, the old
country Jacob Benches Sean please yelled them about Person of five Royal Oh he did,
don't worry. I hate you both, he did, Don't worry.
I always think it's royals. I don't know, not royal fault injury.
Well, I'm hitting the button like Manati, Where can people find you on
the internet? Twitch at Tolkoto. Been having fun streaming there a bunch,
but streaming that many shoot adventures. It was a good time. Yeah,
I enjoyed that stream. That was great. Thank you. It's definitely want
to do some more old games again soon. I think some GameCube stuff.
Plenty of things to get to. Gotta do some quack shot here soon.
I'm gonna I'm gonna give mythologies at least one more good stream. I think
I'm a little over it. I gotta be honest. We'll see, we'll
see how I feel the next time. I think. I mean, you
said you were doing one more, right, have you done that at least
one more? And I haven't done it yet? Okay, Well, and
then when you're if you're done, you're you're done. You've done your bid
for king and country whatever Shatner says in that movie. Yeah, yeah,
something with that. So we'll see, we'll see. How about you,
Jeff, what's going on? I don't know. Lots of stuff. Check
out Giant bum. We've been doing a ton of things over there this week.
Got some new art I'm excited about. Yeah, over there that Jerem
did a really good job with. So our streams look a little prettier,
I think in my opinion. Yeah, and so uh got Tomorrow we'll be
doing a upf Fallout seventy six still seems to be the plan there, and
then bcr we're gonna do a review cast for Stellar Blade actually, and that'll
be a good time. But then I don't know. I am ready to
like do some stuff around the house and kind of lay about this weekend.
It's last weekend to hand with this stuff I was doing. I need to
done the house last weekend. It did improve my mood the whole week,
just walking around looking at this like being my bedmak wow, this room's clean.
I felt way better. I cleaned the kids, I helped the kids
clean their rooms, and I did some other stuff and I pipe, oh
yeah, fucking Christy, and I didn't get to do anything in my areas.
And I've been kind of miserable this week because it's a disaster in here.
Like I like, got a new table and so the old tables sitting
out there on side. I think, there's so mu shit I just want
to do. So that's what I'm doing this week, and I'm gonna clean
this hole zone up and feel better about myself. So I'm looking forward to
that. I don't know, maybe watch a movie, play a lot of
video games, crazy watching a movie. I still want to see guns over
his con or cross con crossing anymore yet I'm not first crossing parenthes is positive.
I think, yes, everybody, thanks for watching cat You next time
brought me my wagon rapped me I am an animal? Did this? Did
this suck? Correctly? That King Kong has a fucking gauntlet? Sorry,
Glove, Now, what's what's up with Dad? Because he's not as cool
as Gunzo, they gotta give him tools and ship Mammalian pride. He's cooler.
All right, we're done. This is a break. I'm ready.
Yeah, I'm good to get back into it. All right, all right,
so rock me Mikey like a wagon wheel, rock me Mikey anyway,
Mike Na, it's got It's gotta be quiet for me to bring it back.
I'm sorry, he needs a clean he needs a clean Okay. I
want to say you put that in chat earlier today. I'm like, Mike,
it doesn't work unless you're singing it. You your voice singing, it's
like half of it, it's like most of it actually, So yeah,
all right, all right, perfect, all right, we're on a break.
All in sync hotline. Huh. I should do a thing where we
have to play every game in the Infogram song Genius Idea, thank you,
I I thought so, yes, yeah, okay, when we play this,
all right, I'm just gonna go to three thirty in the video I
have and you wan to wait for Mike to be back. I think I
probably be better probably m fuck crams. Oh my god, it's in my
head. Now get out the doesse God damn those very good. I was
waiting for a moment to play that during the stream to next it's like,
that's the We have very few that aren't Mike screaming about something that he's gonna
fluid or pornographers, yeah, exactly, or beating it. Most of them
are about beating it, and so it's I had a couple and that the
skill issue is one of them. That one worked that was very fun.
We're coming, Oh you beat it? Like this is so violent. This
one you come, you come up with people. Yes, I was thinking
about doing that one. Oh you beat it. I beat it. I'm
so proud of him. So most people are beating it right now. This
should be the podcasts this. Yeah, rename all these to start with beats,
so we can have the beat zone all in one place, so you
just like quickly hit one after the other. That sounds like a little work.
Yeah, well then you know, listen, I don't I upload them
in the first place, I'll just re upload them. Yeah, oh,
you have to re upload them you can't reorganize them. I'll just favor them.
Yeah, oh yeah, the Xander mobis Cameo. Couldn't know. That's
cool. Enjoy your gaming. Wait, yell about himself? You know as
he does. It is a stupid ass on whoa, whoa, Mike talk
about yourself that way. I don't remember saying that. Okay, all right,
serenadeum, serenade mikey all right, all right? Oh what the fuck?
Oh stop? I was expecting? All right? Is that rock?
Than? Uh? That is that what should be? At three thirty?
Is that what you wanted? Maybe a little after three thirty? That was
the very end of the songs. So okay, well let me go no.
Yeah, but oh I have a different link than you do. Okay,
that explains it. That's all right, though its not matters. Okay,
three thirty there's NASCAR heat, talk of town. Still Man makes my
head spen around forty five Unreal Tournament Test Drive Civilization Superman saves the nation.
He didn't see Hotline dragon Ball alone in the dark, and that's not with
this again. I don't blame him. That's very good, all right,
Okay, I think I didn't getting things up. That's you need to get
the thing up while we're we were playing with the soundboard. Shut up because
you professionals here, people professional rock. Mean I like a man and we
all right there you're framed up. And people got mad that I liked the
one version that song not the other. Yeah, you're a bad person.
Yeah, I guess you're a horrible human being. I mean I like the
other one. I like the one more, and I guess I was the
wrong one to like more. Never said, never have an opinion on the
right mike. Yeah. Uh, it's twenty twenty that we're doing, right,
Yes, sir, you sir remember moment? No, yeah, bro,
I know COVID. I was like, you were like, you're best
friends with COVID people. It was like, it's not that bad. I
don't know, I'm gonna help us. Like when do we start doing the
gamely year thing? What year the first year we did? Oh you mean
like our own? Yeah? Well yeah, yeah, well yeah, we
are coming up to a point where Jeff leaves games Beat and like we start
just doing our own on this podcast. So we wanted to do this anymore
for getting there right, all right, we're doing this for like thirty episodes.
Oh Jesus, Chris, Yeah, what's what's wrong with I'll say I'll
say it. I'm saving it for the thing, okay, all right,
all right, yeah, let's bring it back in a couple of seconds here.
All right, thanks for sticking with us, everybody. We gotta this
fucking I don't know what all right, no one say all that is yet.
It's between the five seconds, but we'll see. All right, all
right, I'll bring it back and if you're ready. You said you were
ready, Mike, Yeah, I'm ready, sir. Alright, let's do
it, all right,