WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.160 This episode may contain content of a graphic nature, including descriptions of physical and 2 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:10.560 sexual violence against adults, children, and animals. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:17.160 Hi everyone, I'm Talia and I'm Tanya, and together we are Crimes and 4 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:38.439 Consequences, a true crime podcast. Welcome back everyone to another episode of Crimes 5 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:43.240 and Consequences. I am Tanya and this is my lovely co host, Talia, 6 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.920 and we are a couple of friends who also happen to be lawyers who 7 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:54.880 enjoy coworkers, co workers, law partners. We enjoy talking about true crime 8 00:00:54.960 --> 00:01:00.399 and that's how this podcast started. So before I get into the episode today, 9 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.599 I would just like to remind everyone to hit the subscribe like fallow button, 10 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:08.480 whatever, but you have whatever, And I would like to think True 11 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.319 Crime Daily for hosting us. Yes, so today is really a terrible story, 12 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:17.400 just like all of our other episodes. But first, have you ever 13 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:23.400 been to Port Saint Port Saint Lucy, Florida? Maybe maybe? Well, 14 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:29.959 it's not really a town that was initially geared towards like young people are teenagers, 15 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:36.280 Florida. It's like between well I believe it's on the Gulf Coast and 16 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.959 it's between Orlando and Miami, which I know is a long stretch, but 17 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:45.519 it's along that side, so the easter place for yeah, I don't know. 18 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:51.200 So it was mostly, you know, geared toward retirees. You know, 19 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:53.239 a lot of people in Michigan were from Michigan. A lot of people 20 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:57.920 in Michigan go to Florida to spend the winters, to call them snowbirds. 21 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:04.640 But it is the biggest city between Orlando and Miami, so you know, 22 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.120 there's there's not a whole lot to do though. It's kind of like just 23 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.000 it's not on the water. No, I don't believe it's on the water. 24 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:14.039 Yeah, so there's not a whole lot to do. I mean, 25 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:19.400 it's not geared toward like tourists and things like that. The New York Mets 26 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:25.199 hold their spring training camps there, okay, and they are also known for 27 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:30.759 growing marijuana. Oh okay. So over the years, pot dealers from Miami 28 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:37.400 would buy vacant houses in Port Saint Luci and use them as grow facilities. 29 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:42.879 Due to this, more than a third of the population is younger than twenty 30 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.319 four years old. I thought it was a older part. Yeah, that's 31 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:52.000 what it was meant to be. You know, so teenagers are literally literally 32 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.759 just running around and in twenty eleven, I'm going to tell you a story 33 00:02:55.759 --> 00:03:00.280 about the Hadley family and Tyler Hadley. Tyler had Hadley was seventeen years old 34 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:06.400 in twenty eleven. His parents were Blake and Mary Joe Hadley, and he 35 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:10.680 was the younger of two boys. Mary Joe was an elementary school teacher at 36 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:15.000 the local school, where she'd been teaching for about twenty years. His father, 37 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:22.479 Blake, worked in a plant as an operator for Florida Power and Light. 38 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:29.960 And the Hadleys were very family oriented and they actually originated originally were from 39 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:34.719 Pennsylvania, and they moved to Florida to be closer to Blake's parents as they 40 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.560 got older, and his parents lived in Fort Lauderdale. Tyler was described by 41 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:43.319 family members as loving, but he was a bit withdrawn. He kept to 42 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:50.039 himself, he was depressed, He suffered from anxiety, He had low self 43 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:54.639 esteem, and he did struggle with an eating disorder blimia. Oh that's strange. 44 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:59.199 Yeah, it's unusual for a boy. Right. As a younger boy, 45 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:03.080 he was quick to quit sports and projects and hobbies because he just felt 46 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.400 like he wasn't good enough. At them, so he would just give up 47 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.479 instead of trying to really work at it and get better. By the time 48 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.720 he was ten, he was being treated by doctors for a slew of things, 49 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:24.279 including acne and depression. At ten a ten, as he's moving into 50 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:29.480 his teen years, Tyler was going down the path of just being a troublemaker. 51 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:35.959 He was doing stuff like vandalizing public bathrooms, painting cars something he's by 52 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:43.680 painting cars in. Yeah, he would steal yard decorations, he set small 53 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:47.639 fires, he would break windows. So a lot of vandalizing going on. 54 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:55.600 Despite the medications that he was prescribed by doctors, and I'm not sure exactly 55 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:59.120 what he was taking, but by the age of twelve, Tyler was self 56 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:04.040 medicating at twelve. At twelve, he started drinking and getting drunk. Yeah, 57 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:10.959 he started smoking weed by the time he was fifteen and taking pills and 58 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:15.720 other who's hallucinogenics to dedicate himself. By the time he was sixteen, he 59 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:17.839 was moving into a little bit of the harder things. Oh wow. To 60 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:21.360 kids that he went to high school with, Tyler was known as like a 61 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:28.959 druggy pillhead who had a history of mental illness and violence. Over the years. 62 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:32.120 So you can imagine his parents. He's quite a handful for them. 63 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:36.120 Yea. Over the years, I know you thought your kids were bad, 64 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:43.399 Tyler's relationship with his parents was deteriorating. Oh yeah. As a child, 65 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.759 he was a respectful and happy kid. And to neighbors, friends, and 66 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:53.079 other family members, they all seemed close, like a close knit family. 67 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:57.879 But Tyler would often wait up for his dad to return home from the night 68 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.240 shift that he worked at the plant, and they would play basketball in the 69 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:05.639 driveway until midnight sometimes, and this is when he was younger. In their 70 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:11.519 backyard they had Lee's had a pool. So during the summer and warmer, 71 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.879 I mean it's warm in Florida, so I imagine they're using this pool all 72 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:18.439 the time. They were always back there spending time, you know, all 73 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.600 day long in the summer. That's what I'd be doing. Hell yeah, 74 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:26.879 that's what i'd be doing too. If I had the wind, I'd be 75 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:30.399 in the blind shut if I was in Florida. And I know you were 76 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:38.920 like like a vampire. Well that's because sunheard. It's because Michigan sucks, 77 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.120 and I don't have a pool. Michigan doesn't suck. I actually love Michigan. 78 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.959 But I love Michigan, but it's hot outside in the summer, and 79 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:46.959 I don't like to sweat. If I had a pool, i'd be in 80 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:51.079 it. Okay, okay, just trust me, trust me. When Tyler 81 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:56.879 reached high school, things took a dramatic turn, and the family soared to 82 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.439 be more attacked, detached. So, you know, he's getting into drinking 83 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:05.519 more and doing drugs, and he's probably you know, he's doing all this 84 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:11.199 vandalizing so's plus he's a teen. Yeah, and that's normal to detach, 85 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:16.560 right. Tyler appeared to be troubled, and he seemed to be somebody who 86 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:23.560 just acted out for attention. Maybe not only did he do these things like 87 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:28.199 this acting out, but he was really disrespectful to adults and other people in 88 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:32.360 general. And one day Tyler and a few other boys dragged a love seat 89 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:38.279 out into the woods. Okay, I don't know whose love seat this was, 90 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.959 but they took it out there, they set it on fire. Yeah, 91 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:45.800 they pretty all over it and lit it on fire boys team boys. 92 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.720 Yeah, but the couch wasn't the only thing that burned. It caused a 93 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:57.360 forest fire. Oh shit. Yeah. At the River Park Wildlife Reserve, 94 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:01.639 so the police recalled. That's no good, No be pissed if I was 95 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.639 his parents, I know, right, But the boys got off with just 96 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:09.680 a warning of that one. So I'm surprised because something the forest on fire 97 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:13.759 is pretty but they were mean too. They were just burning a couch in 98 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:18.720 the forest. That's true, that's true, yeah, yes, but I 99 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.519 guess reckless, reckless. Not soon after that, Tyler got into a fight 100 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:30.319 at a friend's house and he was arrested for aggravated battery. Oh, it 101 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.200 was pretty serious. That's a big that's a real fight. And he spent 102 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.840 a week in jail, and I don't know if he was probably in the 103 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:41.679 juvenile home, right, that's serious. Yeah, And he ended up not 104 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:46.559 like a punch, that's no. This is a full out brawl probably, 105 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.600 and he's probably beating the ship out of some sead right. He ended up 106 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.720 on house arrest for a couple of weeks after that, Tyler told a friend 107 00:08:54.759 --> 00:09:00.720 over Facebook messenger that he knew his mom was disappointed in him and that really 108 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:07.480 bothered him, but it didn't stop his aggressive behavior behavior. I know you're 109 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:13.080 disappointing, right. In June of twenty eleven, Tyler came home from a 110 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:20.440 party and he was wasted. So his mom had him admitted to a mental 111 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.480 health clinic called New Horizons. Really shit, Yeah, he was wasted. 112 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.399 Mary Joe, his mom had suffered from depression her entire life, and she 113 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.039 was really scared that Tyler was going through the same thing. You know, 114 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:39.879 he's obviously going through something and she, you know, beyond her ability to 115 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:45.879 help him, so she wanted to get him some serious help. Mary Joe 116 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:52.000 told friends and the doctors at the clinic that she was afraid that Tyler would 117 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.840 hurt himself, but she was also afraid that he might hurt someone else, 118 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.320 and since he was under the age of eighteen, she was able to admit 119 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:07.639 yeah, without his consent, and at the at New Horizons, he did 120 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:13.600 receive mandatory therapy. But this wasn't the first time that Tyler had received mental 121 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:20.360 health mental health help. He had previously gone to therapy for his eating disorder 122 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:28.240 and his poor self esteem. And he also one thing that was kind of 123 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:37.039 odd was when he was younger, he took that human growth hormone HGHGH and 124 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.960 I think he was prescribed as a way to boost his confidence, and I 125 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:48.320 don't know how that helps confidence. I don't know, but his parents allowed 126 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:54.440 him to take it. That's strange. So it's obvious here Tyler is fighting 127 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.320 demons in his own mind, and as a result, he's sort of an 128 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:03.039 outcast. School he was there's always a group of outcasts that go, oh 129 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.759 yeah, he did, and he was hanging with the wrong kids. He 130 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:15.279 was getting pulled deeper and deeper into the drug scene and drinking even at the 131 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:20.480 young age of fifteen. Mary Joe was a devout Catholic who served as elector 132 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:26.759 at the Saint Lucie Catholic Church. So Tyler and heard they didn't really see 133 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.000 eye to eye on their way to live, because, I mean, you 134 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.240 know, he's he's all shades of messed up. Tyler often felt that his 135 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.279 parents put a lot of pressure on him to be something that he wasn't. 136 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.759 I mean, I'm thinking that they were just normal parents. I just want 137 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.559 you to fly what is it, fly straight or whatever it is, And 138 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.039 I have no idea what you're but just go to school, do your homework, 139 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.039 and take drugs. I mean, I doubt that. Who knows what 140 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.919 my kids would say about me. I doubt it was any kind of unrealistic 141 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:00.120 pressure. But then again, I wasn't there. I don't know, but 142 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:05.000 Tyler felt that anything he would do was wrong in their eyes, and he 143 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.799 would talk a suicide often to his friends and family, and it seemed that 144 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:15.759 close family and friends kind of lost Tyler to his demons for a while. 145 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.919 But once in a while he would show like his true caring self, you 146 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.960 know, it would come through. But it was getting less and less common. 147 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:33.240 Tyler's really struggling, and his mom's trying to get him this professional help, 148 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.000 but they were also punishing him. You know, he was doing things 149 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:41.159 that were wrong, and he was serving punishment at home. After a drunk 150 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:46.879 driving incident, Mary Joe took away Tyler's phone and his car. He often 151 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:52.600 got his phone taken away, but worse punishment for yes, for a teenager, 152 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:54.600 but it didn't mean even though he didn't have his phone, that didn't 153 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:58.799 mean that he wasn't still communicating with friends on Facebook and sneaking out of his 154 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:05.679 house. On July sixteenth, twenty eleven, everything changed for this family. 155 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.759 That morning, Tyler had made a plan seventeen year old Tyler. He wanted 156 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:16.000 to throw a house party with Tyler kind of being an outcast and with all 157 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.759 the trouble he'd been getting into recently, there was no way that his parents 158 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.679 were going to allow him to a party, well now to the know. 159 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:28.919 About one fifteen that afternoon, Tyler made a post on Facebook saying that he 160 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:33.320 was going to be having a party at his crib quote unquote at eight pm, 161 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:41.279 and then that that maybe what's that mean? No? Maybe maybe Some 162 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:46.440 of Tyler's childhood friends knew that he had been getting into a lot of trouble 163 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:50.080 with his parents, so they were skeptical when Tyler posted this on Facebook. 164 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.879 I got to have a party, dude, right with the parents. And 165 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.919 one of them even said, like in the Facebook post, said something like 166 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:03.200 you know, they didn't say how, like how are you gonna have this 167 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.000 party? Because you're being punished all the time. But Tyler's response to whatever 168 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:13.679 was posted was I'm working on it. That doesn't sound no. By eight 169 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:20.759 fifteen, this party was on and Tyler posted again on Facebook, this time 170 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:26.240 saying to hit him up and to come. Multiple friends would message Tyler just 171 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:31.440 in shock because they were worried, like what if your parents come home? 172 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:33.039 Because he's like saying, you know, my parents aren't home, and he's 173 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.440 like don't worry. They're not going to come home. It's all good. 174 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:43.320 So by eleven thirty that night, on July sixteenth, they were over sixty 175 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:48.679 teenagers wow at the Hadley house, and most of them didn't even know Tyler 176 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.480 personally. Like, kids just started showing up. I mean, you hear 177 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:56.960 the party, let's go. The party was starting to just get out of 178 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:01.000 control too, bye. There's a lot of people, you see, is 179 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:05.440 a lot sixty people. Kids were going through cabinets looking for food, and 180 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:11.879 they were forming groups on the front lawn, smoking, throwing cans into the 181 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.320 street, and it was just chaos. And at this point Tyler was getting 182 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.679 worried about the noise level because he didn't want the neighbors to call the police 183 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.159 and have the police showed up. So he asked all the partygoers to just 184 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.200 stay inside. And he's like, I don't care if you smoke inside the 185 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:33.679 house. You know, it's cool. But the house became trashed. Bottles 186 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:39.440 were shattered on the floor, drinks were spilled, cigarettes were put out just 187 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:45.639 on all surfaces. Kids were playing beer pong on the kitchen table. They're 188 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:50.080 making out on the family couch. They were using the family's computer which was 189 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.960 near the dining table, to blast music throughout the house. I mean they 190 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.559 were smoking weed like it was just like can you imagine like an invented those 191 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:06.360 parts? That show was just teenagers having a crazy party. Throughout the evening, 192 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:10.519 various kids would ask Tyler, you know, where are your parents? 193 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:15.320 And his answers were always different. Tyler told some of them that his parents 194 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:19.159 were in Orlando. He told some of them they were in Georgia. He 195 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.080 told a few of them that his parents didn't even live there anymore, and 196 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:27.840 that the house was his what. Yeah. As the night progressed, Tyler 197 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:36.519 just appeared more and more removed and just seemed strange. Although the most Tyler 198 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.879 was always that way, so you know, like, Okay, he's not 199 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:45.759 acting any differently. Around twelve thirty am, the party was running out of 200 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.799 beer and I don't know who brought the beer. Tyler can't borrow it. 201 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.440 I don't know how much his dad had in the house. But Tyler asked 202 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.519 a twenty where there will somebody probably will. She brought a few, trust 203 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.919 me. So they're running out, and Tyler asks a twenty one year old 204 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:07.240 partygoer named Mark Andrews and his girlfriend Ashley if they would run up to the 205 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.839 local gas station and get four more cases of bush light. Yeah, it's 206 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.839 garbage. I don't like beer anyway. When I was seventeen, I drink 207 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:23.000 anything. Yeah, you probably had like PAP's Blue Ribbon and mad Wild Turkey 208 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.839 or whatever, I know yet anything. While they were exchanging the money and 209 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:32.559 making the plan for them to go up to the gas station, Tyler told 210 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:36.200 Ashley, who didn't know him very well, that his dad was dead, 211 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:40.680 and she thought he meant that he had passed away a long time ago. 212 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.200 So the night continues into chaos. More and where people were coming to the 213 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:51.000 house. This house is being trashed. More and more. Kids were selling 214 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:56.240 weed and pills to each other. Others had vandalized some neighbor's property, like 215 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:02.119 the neighboring properties, and by one fifty teen, Tyler had just lost all 216 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.079 control of this party. I'm surprised the police weren't called earlier. I know 217 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.920 they do, they get called, but by I mean, let me just 218 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:12.960 tell you. Pictures were knocked off the wall, furniture was overturned, the 219 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:18.119 house had just some kind of stench to it. It's probably beer, spilled 220 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.359 beer, Yeah, puke, there's probably all kinds of stuff going on, 221 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:26.240 and Tyler, who probably now is on the verge of like just completely having 222 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:30.519 a meltdown because he's lost control of this party. He asked his childhood best 223 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:34.960 friend named Michael to step outside and get some air with him, Like, 224 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.519 can you can you come with me on a walk? I need some fresh 225 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:42.519 air. So Michael stimulated, oh, yeah, for sure. Michael would 226 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:47.799 recall that for most of the parties, Tyler sat alone and was just staring 227 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:52.279 out into space. So they go outside and on their walk, Tyler tells 228 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:57.680 Michael that he had killed his parents earlier that day. Michael's like, hmm, 229 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.559 come on now, you know he doesn't believe it. But then his 230 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.160 parents aren't at the house, so Michael quickly shuts it down and they just 231 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:11.880 continue walking, and Tyler said, no, really, I did take a 232 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:18.640 look their car. Their cars are still in the driveway, and if they're 233 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.039 not home, then why are their cars gone? Damn. So Michael still 234 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:26.079 didn't believe him, and so Tyler took Michael back to the house and into 235 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:33.720 the garage. Michael immediately saw a bloody shoeprint and he was He backed out 236 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.880 of the garage and he shut the door back into the garage and he shut 237 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:41.319 the door. Tyler then took Michael to the master bedroom. Oh no, 238 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:47.720 right away, Michael noticed traces of blood on the door handle and the doorframe. 239 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:52.400 And once Tyler unlocked and opened the door because apparently the door was locked, 240 00:19:52.440 --> 00:20:00.119 both boys entered the room. The master bedroom was in complete disarray. 241 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:04.119 There was a huge pile of random items piled high on the bed, things 242 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:11.000 like dining room chairs and blood soaked towels, dining room chairs. There's dining 243 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:17.000 room chairs. There was other furniture. There was like a mop that was 244 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:22.319 used to clean up like used liesole wipes, like just filled with blood. 245 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:27.039 Like it's all thrown into this room. Yeah, all the cleaning stuff and 246 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:36.079 so underneath underneath everything if as the bed, like on the floor, I 247 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:41.519 mean there's like on the bed is just furniture and stuff. And so Michael 248 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:47.799 looks on the floor and he's looking and he sees Tyler's dad's leg, Blake's 249 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:52.039 leg. For some reason, though, Michael didn't leave the party, like 250 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.799 he's like, oh shit, and they leave the bedroom. And Michael didn't 251 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.759 leave the party right away. He stayed another forty five and it's drinking and 252 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:04.480 smoking and even taking selfies with Tyler, and he said, you know, 253 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.440 I took self He said, I took the selfies because I knew I was 254 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:14.960 never going to see my friend again after this. So afterward, when Michael 255 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.279 goes home, he does make a call to crime stoppers to report what happened, 256 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:22.359 but it's like an hour later they all shades of fuck, oh my 257 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:27.799 gosh, seriously, so you're probably wondering what happened exactly. I would like 258 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:33.799 to know, Okay, So around a nine point forty that day, the 259 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:40.240 day before he killed his parents, Tyler got a Facebook message from a friend 260 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:44.720 saying, hey, did you do it yet? Tyler had been threatening, 261 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.880 saying like I'm going to kill my parents, although nobody really believed him, 262 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.119 but he gets this message, did you do it yet? Tyler writes back 263 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:56.240 that he didn't do it yet. He called his mom you know some names, 264 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:03.920 saying that she deserved to die. He did, Tyler did. And 265 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:07.960 Tyler told that friend that after he was going to kill his parents, he 266 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:11.559 planned to throw a huge party, like this is his plan. So just 267 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:18.799 before five pm, Tyler took his parents' phones and he hid them. Then 268 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:21.799 this is the day of the murder. Yeah, this is the day of 269 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:26.599 the murder. Then he took three hits of ecstasy. Oh shit, he 270 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:29.599 felt shit. Yeah, he felt like I wouldn't be able to go through 271 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:33.880 with it if I wasn't high. He listened to a song by a Little 272 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:40.839 Boosy called Feel Lucky to hype himself up before he went into the garage to 273 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:48.880 look for a weapon. Tyler found a clawhammer. No no, and then 274 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:53.880 he went back into the house a clawhammer, a clawhammer. Upon returning inside, 275 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.720 his mom is in one of the bedrooms. She's sitting at a computer. 276 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.400 She's not in the master bedroom. She's at a computer. He goes 277 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.319 inside the house. He's got the hammer in his hand. I'm not sure 278 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.319 where his dad was at the time, but he stares at his mom for 279 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:15.119 like five minutes, just staring at her, and he's deciding what to do 280 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:19.200 next. He is so then he goes up behind her. He raises the 281 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:23.319 claw hammer above his head and he hits his mom in the back of the 282 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:30.240 head. Mary Joe screamed out, and she said. She turns around, 283 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.599 She's like why why, and she's screaming, still live and she's still alive. 284 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:41.200 And Blake, Tyler's dad. He hears Mary Joe screaming and he comes 285 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:47.799 running into the room. He blacks eyes with Tyler, who's because Mary Joe's 286 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.839 now on the floor and he's hitting her. He's still hitting He's still hitting 287 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:53.640 her, and he's like, why why are you doing this? You know 288 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:57.359 what's going on? And Tyler responded, quote, why the fuck not? 289 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.240 And then he attacks his dad with the hammer. I'm surprised his dad couldn't 290 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.160 take him down, you know, I'm surprised too. He must have really 291 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.400 caught him. But he was on three hit day. Yeah, he's got 292 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.640 some super human strength. I mean he was. He was. He was 293 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.440 maybe like six foot and one hundred and sixty pounds like Tyler was, So 294 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.240 he was thin. And his dad wasn't like a thin guy. He's not 295 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.960 like a huge guy. But I mean, I would think, but I 296 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:30.839 don't know. I wasn't there. So all, when all was said and 297 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:38.400 done, Mary Joe suffered thirty six blows thirty six blows mostly to her head 298 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:48.920 and six blows six yeah, I know. And Blake suffered at least thirty 299 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:53.079 nine blows. That's rage coming out, oh yeah, And it was estimated 300 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:57.839 that Tyler they were mutilating. Oh yeah, because he only hit them like 301 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:04.160 in they're up body like had had in probably their upper back. It was 302 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:11.319 estimated that Tyler spent a full minute beating each of his parents. And a 303 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.839 minute might not sound like a lot, but when you're hitting someone, I 304 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.599 mean, I have a claw hammer. If you think about it, I 305 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.240 mean, that's a long time. Yeah, it's a lot of effort. 306 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:27.680 That's overkill. Yeah, that's way beyond what it's necessary to get the deed. 307 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:32.799 Yeah. Right. And the most disturbing fact though, is that Mary, 308 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:37.240 Joe and Blake were still alive. What and they were still conscious during 309 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:42.119 this attack. None of the hits they suffered killed them immediately, but they 310 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:47.799 would die shortly thereafter due to their injuries. Wow, probably to blunt due 311 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:51.839 to blunt force trauma, bleeding. Yeah, they were conscious enough, I 312 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.480 mean to know that their son was murdering them. After they were done dead, 313 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:02.000 I know, and Tyler was done, he quickly covered their heads with 314 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:07.920 towels as he just couldn't stand to look at that. He dragged his parents' 315 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.759 bodies into the master bedroom and he laid them side by side, face down. 316 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:18.759 Tyler put the claw hammer between his parents' bodies. And at this point, 317 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:23.079 now the living room, which is where Mary Joe was initially where he 318 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:27.559 the where the attack started. The living room was just a bloody mess. 319 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:33.400 Tyler himself was covered head to toe and blood splatter. So he's like, 320 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:36.240 if I'm going to have this party, because he still got his mind on 321 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.440 the party, he was going to have to get cleaning. It took him 322 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:44.559 over three hours to clean up this gory mass, which was longer than he 323 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:51.359 had anticipated. He took every single piece of potentially incriminating evidence and piled it 324 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.119 onto the bed and on his parents' bodies. So, like I told you, 325 00:26:55.160 --> 00:27:00.000 this included the coffee table, dining chairs, there were pillows probably from 326 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.319 the sofa, broken dishes, shattered glasses, a sponge mop, used chlorox 327 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:08.920 wipes, and bloody towels. Essentially, everything he used to clean was thrown 328 00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:17.319 into the pile, and anything that had evidence on it meaning blood splatter that 329 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:22.680 could be moved ended up in their bedroom. And I have a picture of 330 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:27.160 it. I mean, their bedroom is trashed. There's also another photo that 331 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:32.119 will show during the video, and it's pretty graphics, so it's not of 332 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:33.759 Blake. And Mary Joe. But it's graphics, so I just want to 333 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:38.279 warn everyone. So now it's time. Okay, cleans up. Now it's 334 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:42.319 time. He needs to get clean. So he takes a shower. He 335 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:47.039 looks himself in the mirror and he said like he couldn't help but laugh at 336 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:51.160 his reflection. What I don't know what he happened in the shower, and 337 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:56.599 then he's just lost it. Yea, three hits, three hits. Yeah, 338 00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.480 and that's when he saw the shower. He posts on Facebook and says, 339 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:04.480 oh the part. So that's now, you know, kids start to 340 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.119 show up, and the evening goes into case. I have no idea. 341 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.599 There's two dead bodies up stairs. Now, so let's go back a little 342 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.319 bit to Tyler's confession to his friend Michael. So, as I told you, 343 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.680 Michael stayed at the party for forty five minutes after Tyler had just proved 344 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:25.200 to him that he had murdered his parents. Between Tyler's confession to Michael and 345 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:30.039 Michael leaving the party, other party goers heard that there was another party at 346 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.920 a different house, so everyone quickly started to clear out, causing commotion in 347 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:41.119 the front yard. Over fourteen cars peeled off loudly from the Hadley residence. 348 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:47.440 A neighbor to the Hadley residence named ray Anne Wallace just had enough of the 349 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:51.640 noise in the bauchery and she finally called nine on once when the kids started 350 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:56.160 drifting into her yard during their departure. Within two minutes of Rayan's called, 351 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:02.480 police arrived at the Hadley residence and due to the fact that most of the 352 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.799 kids now had gone had left and gone to the other party, there's only 353 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:11.519 about twenty people left, and so the police go to Tyler, you know, 354 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.920 and he promises the police, yes, we'll keep it down for the 355 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.640 rest of the night. So police let him off without a warning and they 356 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:26.160 head back to their cruiser and they left. By two thirty am. All 357 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.640 of the kids now have learned that the other party that was supposed to be 358 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.160 happening was just a rumor, so they all headed back to the Hadley residence 359 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:41.039 and party was back on despite the police having just left. At this point, 360 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.880 it's clear that something it was really wrong with Tyler, and other conversations 361 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:51.279 with Michael and other partygoers at the time, Tyler mentioned suicide multiple times and 362 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.680 even told Michael how he was going to do it. Michael left the party 363 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.319 about three am, so maybe he stayed. I don't know. Due to 364 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.839 this, I don't know. I'm trying to give Michael the benefit of the 365 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.279 doubt. But he left about just before three am. And when he left, 366 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:08.640 he found some percocet pills that Tyler planned to use to kill himself and 367 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:15.920 he hid them in a hall closet to prevent that. At four forty six 368 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.960 am, police were again dispatched. The party's still going on. The party 369 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.240 is still going on. Hell, And so they go back to the Hadley 370 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:30.240 home. But now this is due to the call that Michael made OH crime 371 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:37.640 stoppers. He informed them of what Michael, excuse me, what Tyler had 372 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.880 done, and he told them everything. So when police arrived, they could 373 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.839 see the shadow of someone pacing back and forth in the front living room. 374 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.160 One of the officers his name was Officer Green. He peered through the window 375 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:56.240 and he saw Tyler pacing across the living room talking to himself. Then he 376 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.359 started. Tyler started grabbing books, like stacks of books from a book shelf 377 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.079 by the front door and taking them back into the master bedroom. Why, 378 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.400 I don't know. After the third trip, I'm thinking maybe there was some 379 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.359 blood splatter on them. After Tyler's third trip, Officer Green finally knocked on 380 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.839 the front door, but Tyler didn't answer it right away. Instead, he 381 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.839 went and turned all the lights off in the house before he answered the door. 382 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:26.319 Tyler looked very disturbed to Officer Green. His eyes were wide, he 383 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.640 wasn't blinking when he answered. He left his left hand behind his back, 384 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:36.880 which caused the other officer that was with Officer Green, his name was Officer 385 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.240 Zamowski to draw his gun. After being ordered to get on the ground, 386 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:47.720 Officer searched Tyler his person to ensure that he didn't have any weapons on him 387 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.440 before they handcuffed him, Seemingly frantic and incoherent. When police asked if any 388 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.960 adults were home, Tyler responded no, before saying to Officer Green that he 389 00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.319 knew he was going to Rock Road, which is where the county jail was. 390 00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:08.359 Upon entering the house, the police were met with just disorder and it 391 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:15.839 was just disgusting. There were empty beer bottles, cans everywhere. Yeah, 392 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:20.200 pots and pans were all over the counter, said those parties. Yeah. 393 00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:27.160 Tyler's bedroom floor was covered in unrolled cigars. Oh, I don't know it's 394 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.440 yeah. I think it was tobacco. The furniture was overturned in Tyler's brother's 395 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.279 bedroom. I'm not sure where the brother was. I'm thinking he's college aged, 396 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:40.599 so he might have been somewhere else. They found the family dog locked 397 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.920 in closet. But this wasn't the worst. The police finally reached the master 398 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:52.119 bedroom and they immediately noticed the dried blood on the door frame, and because 399 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.480 the door was locked, they had to force it open and they just entered 400 00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:02.559 this room of horrors. Right. Nearly two thousand people attended Mary, Joe 401 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:10.480 and Blake's funeral. Michael became the state's star witness for the trial, and 402 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:16.559 in twenty fourteen, Tyler entered a plea of no contest to two counts a 403 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:22.920 first degree murder with a weapon. He was convicted on those two counts a 404 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.559 first degree murder, and sentenced to two consecutive life terms, so they weren't 405 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.799 concurrent. They were to be served one after the other, and he didn't 406 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.799 get death. Yeah, Florida, it's Florida. Because he was a minor 407 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.279 at the time of the crime. The state did eventually have to reverse his 408 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:46.880 sentence on new sentencing qualms. That can't sentence them to life life, right, 409 00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:51.200 right, they have to have a chance for parole. Mm hmm. 410 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.839 So seven years after the murder of his parents in twenty eighteen, the now 411 00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:00.599 twenty five year old Tyler, he had a resentencing trial. Tyler was chained 412 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:06.599 at the ankles and wrists, and he showed no emotion as the judge read 413 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:12.280 his new sentence, and Tyler was again sentenced to life in prison. However, 414 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.480 they were to be served at the same time, and by law, 415 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:20.800 he'd be automatically allowed like his case would be automatically reviewed for parole after twenty 416 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.159 five years. Yep. Lord has gone back and forth with that law. 417 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:30.559 Yeah, in Alabama too, because we have the cases on that, Yeah, 418 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:37.039 we have, and that federal Cruel and Unusual punishment federal law. Oh 419 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.039 yeah, the cruel and unusual punishment. Yet because they're minors, to this 420 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:46.519 day, friends and family really struggle to understand the motivation behind Tyler's actions, 421 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.920 you know what for a party like what? Yeah, Like they just don't 422 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.559 they don't understand. And yvery upsetting. Although he said some kind of messed 423 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.440 up things, I mean, he said he said he was going to kill 424 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.719 his parents. People never really he thought he was capable of doing it, 425 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.199 obviously. I mean I would never think that about any of my friends. 426 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.199 Yeah, but I would also never say that. Yeah, that's true. 427 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:14.079 That's true. Yeah, it's not the most common theory though, revolves around 428 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.800 two things, Tyler's drug and alcohol abuse and his mental health issues. Although 429 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.880 I was I thought he was getting treated for his mental health issues, doesn't 430 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.159 mean he was getting treated properly. That's true. It was widely known by 431 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:31.440 a circle of friends that that Tyler held some resentment against his parents still all 432 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:37.199 teenagers, I know, for you know, punishing him and forcing him to 433 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:42.199 go to the drug abuse program that you know, I help him, trying 434 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.760 to help him. Yeah, even when he did receive the mental health though, 435 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.599 he'd often lie and manipulate the doctors. So, like you said, 436 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:53.480 he might not even have been getting like proper treatment. He was prescribed antidepression 437 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:58.719 medication. He would mix that with various other pills, you know, to 438 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.800 get messed up. And when the police originally searched the house, they didn't 439 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:09.599 find any pills other than two prescriptions for Tyler. So yeah, so I'm 440 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:14.599 not sure he could have been buying them though, right, he could have 441 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:20.119 been buying anything. In a letter from jail, Tyler wrote to his grandparents, 442 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:24.559 and he told them that he wished his doctors never put him on that 443 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:29.880 one pill, he said, but he never specified what that one pill was. 444 00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:36.679 Antidepressant. Sorry. During his first trial in twenty fourteen, Kathleen Hyde, 445 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:40.920 who was the mental health specialist who Tyler's team called to the defense as 446 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.159 a defense witness. She stated that when he killed his parents, Tyler was 447 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:52.719 in a major depressive episode. She said that this episode fueled intrusive thoughts about 448 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:57.880 suicide and killing his parents. She told the court that there were various reasons 449 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:05.000 leading to Tyler's homicide thoughts, including obsessive thoughts, severe depression, and the 450 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:10.119 inability to care for others. None of this, yeah, and this was 451 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:15.599 premanitating, Yeah, right exactly. Wasn't spontaneous, you know? None of 452 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.119 this, though, I think, is able to justify what he did. 453 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:24.880 But during his resentencing, Tyler's team pushed hard that Tyler was capable of rehabilitation. 454 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:34.159 Even family members testified that Tyler understood his actions and should stay in prison. 455 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.960 Despite listening to various testimonies, the judge ruled that whether or not Tyler 456 00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:44.320 was capable of rehabilitation, was anyone's best guess, and he upheld, like 457 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.440 I told you, those life sentences. The judge noticed, or the judge 458 00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:52.800 noted that Tyler had casually spoken about killing his parents for weeks leading up to 459 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:58.039 that and the party. Yeah, and there a party, right, I 460 00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.920 mean, and he even told people that he was waiting for his brother to 461 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.079 move out before he did. So, yeah, you're right. The brother 462 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.239 was Yeah, so he wasn't there, even though he still hit a bedroom 463 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:15.039 there. He maintained that the crime the judge maintained that the crime was premeditated, 464 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.199 like you said, and the fact that these were his parents and he 465 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.760 killed them so personally, like you said, it was a race. He 466 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:27.239 was just in a race, and it was just overkill. Yeah, overkill. 467 00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.159 It wasn't done on impulse, and it was just done through hatred that 468 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:37.360 was brewing against the two people that tried to help him the most. Since 469 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.840 being in prison, Tyler has completed his ged and he scored a twenty one 470 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:45.760 hundred on the SAT. Oh he's smart. Yeah. Most of his days 471 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:51.480 reading books like Harry Potter and anything by James Patterson. I do like James 472 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.960 Patterson. Yeah, his books are really good. Tyler started meetings meeting with 473 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.639 a priest named Father Michael, who had encouraged Tyler to confess his sins to 474 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.559 God and repent to be able to be forgiven. In letters to his grandparent 475 00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.480 parents, Tyler was torn up with guilt. He said he was depressed, 476 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:15.679 angry, confused, and delusional like when at the time of the crimes. 477 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:20.280 And he told him that he was planning to be ordained when he's released from 478 00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:24.119 prison one day. I think that's gonna happen. That's going to happen either. 479 00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:29.880 As for Michael, his friend that called crime Steppers, he said that 480 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:35.440 Tyler murdering his parents was the worst thing that he ever happened to him. 481 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.800 Oh yeah, I bet. I mean he was. He was really traumatized. 482 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.679 I mean yeah, you know, Plus he was like the star witness, 483 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:47.559 so he's like yeah, so he just you know, he relives it. 484 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:53.039 He says this caused him problems socially. He couldn't go to school without 485 00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:59.639 people coming to him and asking him about it. You know, they all 486 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:07.039 wanted like the gory details from him. So Ryan Hatley, who was Tyler's 487 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.800 other brother, I even really talked about him. He was the older brother 488 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:15.199 that had moved out. He wrote a book about life after his parents were 489 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:21.360 murdered. He dove deep into the grief and how he survived. Ryan struggled 490 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.000 to forgive his brother. That be hard, yeah, and he's struggled to 491 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:29.119 maintain a relationship with him. And he has no family like his I mean, 492 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.159 he just has his brother and his parents are gone, right, Like 493 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.320 it's it's got to be hard. Since Tyler's resentencing in twenty fourteen, or 494 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:43.079 since his sentencing in twenty fourteen and his resentencing in twenty eighteen, Ryan occasionally 495 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.800 visits Tyler in prison. He's learned to live with the idea that two things 496 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:52.039 can be true at the same time, that he can be angry at his 497 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.960 brother for what he did while still loving my you know, and caring about 498 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:58.559 him. So I'm sure it's a real struggle. Like you said, I 499 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:04.480 it's a it's going to be some resentment. But yeah, you learn to 500 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.039 forgive, right, like I guess you have to. He's your brother. 501 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:12.639 I don't know that the only family, like you said of you, yea 502 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.639 to live with that hate and anger doesn't do any any good for me. 503 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.280 That's yeah, you have a point there, right, He's because he's got 504 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.559 to move on with his life, you know. And yeah, so that 505 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:30.199 is the really sad story about that is very sad the Hadley family. So 506 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:36.719 that makes me very very just happened for nothing. I hate these crimes that 507 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.079 are just like seemed to be for no reason. Not that anybody should be 508 00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:44.079 murdered for a reason, and I just want to clarify that, but senseless, 509 00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.760 like just like, yeah, Hitler, Hitler. Maybe yeah, you're 510 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.719 right, but you know, some of these I'm just like, why, 511 00:41:52.239 --> 00:42:00.199 Like, was throwing the party that important apparently to seven times seventeen? Yeah, 512 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:05.719 so well, thank you Tuleia wow for listening. Very depressing. Yeah, 513 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:10.000 thank you everyone for listening to today's episode or watching. Don't forget to 514 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.320 hit the like, subscribe follow button if you would like to hear more episodes. 515 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:22.239 We do offer a Patreon yep It's patreon dot com slash t nt Crimes 516 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.760 where we release one extra episode that's not to the public. It's only to 517 00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.719 our subscribers, one a week, and we have to do shout outs to 518 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:35.400 them. 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