WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:11.640 day, Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we 3 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.960 are get off our show, idiot, the kids are crying or trail off 4 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.640 their countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold 5 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:24.039 Play Inner Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:28.480 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:40.439 Now? Here's nick coffee? All right, boys and girls, let's 8 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:44.880 get this short week started. Happy Monday, everybody. Hopefully you had yourselves 9 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:49.799 a good weekend. And I gotta be honest, I think today it feels 10 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:53.359 like the best weather we may have ever had, like in the history of 11 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:57.280 the world, at least where I am here in Louisville, Kentucky. Have 12 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:00.560 you noticed how nice it is outside? John? Yeah, actually down to 13 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.359 the waterfront earlier. I was here early for some some recording sessions, and 14 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.599 in between that and the show, I spent about forty five minutes down by 15 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:10.079 the rivers. Not a nice not a better day to do it. Not 16 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:11.560 a better day. I mean, it's beautiful and in fact, you know 17 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.879 I got to thinking, like it's clear it's still hot, Like I think 18 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:18.519 eighty degrees is currently what it is, which is you know, it doesn't 19 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:22.120 doesn't sound so bad whenever we've had like ninety six and ninety seven not that 20 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:26.920 long ago, but like it's clear today's today is a really really good I 21 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:33.319 guess reminder of just how humidity really impacts how comfortable you are, because we 22 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:38.599 have currently thirty nine percent humidity according to the Weather Channel, which I wouldn't 23 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.319 know if that's like really good or really bad. I've been outside, so 24 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:47.000 I assume thirty nine is perfect because of how it feels. But you get 25 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:51.400 to like Wednesday, you know, we've got ninety four as the high humidity 26 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:56.879 is seventy three percent, so like we could stay I just just sounds horrible. 27 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.000 Temperature like this with humidity at this level is is perfect, but yeah, 28 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.319 we don't get much of that. But also we've been hit with some 29 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:07.920 brutal heat in the last couple of days. I mean, Saturday was sticky 30 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:10.199 hot. I don't feel like it was actually as bad as I expected it 31 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:15.280 to be. Yesterday wasn't so bad, but today is beautiful, So let's 32 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:16.599 let's have a good show. I mean, you guys will have no impact 33 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.759 on that. It's on us and I can only speak for me, but 34 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.520 I know John's gonna give it his best effort today as we've got a short 35 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.759 week, and I'm certainly gonna give my best effort. Don't know if that 36 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.599 is going to produce a great show for us here, but we'll see what 37 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:32.439 happens. Right stick around, we'll find out if we ended up, you 38 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:36.360 know, keeping you long enough to where you can, you know, say 39 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:38.639 you enjoyed the show. So when I say short week, it's because we 40 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:42.599 are going to be out on Thursday and Friday, a couple of days off 41 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:46.520 to celebrate the Fourth of July, which never really a big Fourth of July. 42 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:47.960 I mean, I love that we live in a country and we have 43 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:53.560 freedom, and we're celebrating America's freedom, like that's great, But Fourth of 44 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.080 July has always been when it's really close to my birthday. But also, 45 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:00.319 I'm just gonna say it. I've talked about it over the years, nothing 46 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:05.719 has changed. But I guess as I get older, I am more you 47 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.560 know, willing and wanting to just say what I think and not worry about 48 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:15.280 it. When anybody else thinks I hate fireworks, hate them. Don't understand 49 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:17.879 how anybody could be really, I mean, I just I don't get it. 50 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:21.639 There's a lot of things I'm sure I'm interested in that you guys would 51 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.000 think are stupid, and you'd say the same thing, Why does he like 52 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:27.240 that? That's dumb? Who would be into that? So it's everybody has 53 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.080 their own preferences. But like a lot of the things that I like and 54 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:38.520 I enjoy just hobbies of mine. It doesn't impact you. Fireworks impact me. 55 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:40.400 It's not crazy, it's not like it ruins my life. At the 56 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:44.560 end of the day, I'm doing just fine. But like you know, 57 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:50.439 I don't enjoy hearing fireworks going off at all hours of the night. I 58 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:55.719 mean, it's not that bad whenever it's you know, from seven thirty eight 59 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:59.439 o'clock to I don't know, ten to eleven, Like, it's not a 60 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.719 huge deal, but it's just something I would prefer not to be going on, 61 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:06.479 right, like the whole month of June people lighting off fireworks. So 62 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:10.360 that's just to get it out of the way. That's one of the reasons 63 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:14.280 why I've just never really been a huge Fourth of July guy, because of 64 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.720 fireworks like the actual holiday itself. You remove the fireworks and you get all 65 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.040 you know, you get rid of all the pyromaniacs out there. Then you 66 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:25.319 know, hell yeah, freedom America Fourth of July. But just never been 67 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.920 my thing. But I bring that up to say, I guess to ask 68 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:33.240 a question. Are people over at fireworks? Is the economy so bad that 69 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.759 nobody's buying fireworks anymore? Trust me, this is an open invitation for you 70 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:40.199 to find out where I live and show up and start lighting off a bunch 71 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:44.839 of bottle rockets. But I have Last night was the first time I've heard 72 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.000 anybody in my neighborhood. And you cannot even be in my neighbor You could 73 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.920 be a mile away maybe, and if you've got the you know, the 74 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.240 high dollar stuff, like, I'll probably still hear you. I mean, 75 00:04:55.399 --> 00:05:00.079 this is the second I think, or maybe this is the third. I 76 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.800 think this is the third summer we will have been at this home. I 77 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.639 think it is. I don't know, but either way, like, I'm 78 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:10.759 not complaining, but I'm just curious as to what you know. Maybe it's 79 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.920 just the people near me haven't gotten into it. Have you noticed as much? 80 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:15.680 Honestly, where I live. I think I might have mentioned this last 81 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.879 week. It's worse than usual for I really yeah. I don't know if 82 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:23.720 people are just finding crapping their garage and firing it off before fourth of July, 83 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:28.399 but it's kind of annoying where I live, like late at night or 84 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.959 just it's usually around i'd say nine o'clock, ten o'clock, that kind of 85 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.240 stuff. And what's unfortunate is that And this is really nobody's fault. But 86 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:36.759 like a lot of fireworks, if you want to get you know, no 87 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:41.439 pun intended to bang for your buck, it needs to be dark outside, 88 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.000 and I don't know, I feel like it gets dark at ten o'clock, 89 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.639 like's it's very I mean pitch black of course, you know, probably around 90 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:49.959 ten o'clock, but I feel like you could be. I mean, my 91 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:55.600 wife sometimes will go to bed a lot earlier than I will because the kids 92 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:57.959 are in bed and she's tired, and like she'll go to bed and it's 93 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.680 clearly still daylight outside to an extent, which it's just weird to me, 94 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:05.319 but you know, it's nine thirty nine forty five almost, So the question 95 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:11.120 I have for for fire again, like this isn't like a judgment thing, 96 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:13.759 Like, I'm not if you like fireworks, I'm not judging you as a 97 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:17.519 person saying that you're you have bad character and you are a nutcase or anything 98 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.399 like that. And I think if you listen to the show a little bit, 99 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:25.199 you probably are well aware that I've never shot away from calling out people 100 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:28.920 who might have some psychopathic tendencies, So like, it's not that, But 101 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.600 what is it about fireworks that that you like? Like, what is it 102 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:39.160 about a big loud boom or something that you know explodes in the air with 103 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:44.720 some colors? Like I just I think there's not a whole lot of versatility 104 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.399 with fireworks as far as like, oh, this one does this and this 105 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.439 one does that. Yeah, there's certainly different types. But once you've like 106 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:55.000 I don't know, like if you've done the same thing every year and it's 107 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:59.600 the same stuff, I mean, I don't know. In a weird way, 108 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:01.839 I'm curious as to what it is about fireworks that people just you know, 109 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:05.160 spend a lot of money. I mean, these tents that you see 110 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.120 all across the area, they don't pop up for nothing. They pop up 111 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.959 because people come and spend a lot of money, And it's a hustle. 112 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.120 I mean, I actually know somebody who got into that a few years ago. 113 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:16.759 He's got his own company, his own business, but he met somebody 114 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:21.360 who was, I guess, like a franchise e. And you know, 115 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:25.160 you buy a ton of them in bulk, right, and you get them 116 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.000 for a you know, cheaper price, and then you know, if you 117 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.959 buy a whole sale, then you then you sell, you can turn a 118 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.600 pretty good profit. I mean, this is a guy who you know, 119 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:39.399 like nearly a fourth of his annual income, like you know, take his 120 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.600 annual income from his career, you know, a fourth of that is what 121 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.040 he was what he was making in the summer from fireworks. So like, 122 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:46.519 clearly people buy them, people liked him. Maybe you know, maybe I'm 123 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:50.639 in the minority, but I just I don't know, like to go back 124 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:56.360 to Thunder over Louisville, like people who watch Thunder over Louisville on television, 125 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:01.319 Like you might as well boot up that nineteen ninety five first ever desktop computer 126 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.639 and just watch the you know, the first screen see the first screen saver 127 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:09.759 they ever made that was animated. Like, I just again, I what 128 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:11.240 am I I guess I'll ask this what am I missing? What am I 129 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:15.879 missing about the fireworks that that makes it so cool to will people just you 130 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:20.040 know, they want to do it at all hours of the night for an 131 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.759 entire week, like I bet tonight, And it's not because you know, 132 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.199 I jinxed it or you know I was just you know, it was karma 133 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.839 because it's the week of the holidays. So like tonight, I'm sure I'll 134 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.680 hear more than I have. And maybe I'll just walk up to somebody on 135 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.159 my street because I'm neighborly now right, I talked about that. I'm you 136 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:37.120 know, I'm waving everybody as they go down the street, you know, 137 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.399 being being neighborly. It's something I never thought I would do, but I'm 138 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.200 doing it. Maybe I'll ask one of my neighbors if they're outside lighting off 139 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.919 fireworks, like, hey, what do you get out of this? Man? 140 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.519 Like you just spent what I don't know how much, maybe a couple 141 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.399 hundred bucks. What did that do? What did that? What was the 142 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.279 return on set investment? And if it's for the kids, that's cool, 143 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.279 But that's a that's a week excuse for a lot of people. Because I 144 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.399 know a lot I know many people who do the big old firework thing and 145 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.279 they got nothing to do with kids. They don't even have kids some of 146 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:11.639 them. Have you ever let off a firework? I did, I was. 147 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:15.399 I've had some near o. I never have, not once. I 148 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.120 was afraid when I don't remember how old I was, maybe around eleven or 149 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.200 twelve years old. I remember somebody lit a Roman candle that I had in 150 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.600 my hand, and I was so freaked out from the firework comes in my 151 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.519 hand. I threw it and it started shooting into my parents' garage. Oh 152 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.480 no, it was not a pretty sight. Yeah, I'm not you know, 153 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.639 I'm not scared of them, right, It's not as if I'm worried 154 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.919 that people are going to light them off and I'm gonna get injured. Like 155 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:43.080 it's not like if I'm around people lighting them off, I have probably the 156 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.559 same level of cautious and cautious, you know, concerned as anybody else. 157 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:48.399 Right, you want to be mindful of what's going on. But like, 158 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.159 it's not like I'm freaking out and having a panic attack because people are lighting 159 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.519 off fireworks near me. But yeah, you have to be careful. The 160 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.000 only thing I can think, like when I was, when I was like 161 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:03.080 in sixth grade. This isn't even like, this isn't lighting a firework. 162 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.519 But my mind went back to sixth grade, nick here, because I realized 163 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:13.679 what like being flammable meant around that time. And I remember there was a 164 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.720 lighter, one of those tall, like those stick lighters, like the long 165 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.399 yeah, candlestick light. Yeah, not like a cigarette lighter, but yeah, 166 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.279 like a candlestick lighter. And I went and got one of my sister's 167 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:30.320 bottles of hairspray, and I just had the flame going and I sprayed the 168 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.240 Uh, I just sprayed the hairspray, and it looked like, you know, 169 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.720 it was a humongous flame, like you made a flamethrower. Yeah exactly. 170 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.320 And I just stood there with its spraying like looking at it. And 171 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.000 the first thing it thought popped up in my mind was like in home alone, 172 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.879 whenever Joe Pesci gets you know, there's there's some kind of a homemade 173 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.720 flamethrower kind of thing that Kevin McAllister uses to get the sticky bandits. And 174 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.120 that's what as soon as I saw that flame, I'm like, oh my 175 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.360 gosh, that that's that's what this is. I did it a few times. 176 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.720 I don't know why I thought it was cool. I guess that's kind 177 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.639 of similar to what people do with fireworks. And then I did it too 178 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.399 long and I noticed when I looked to my left that a wall in our 179 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:15.399 home like was starting to get really like. It was like I was, 180 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.279 I mean, it wasn't on fire, but like the flame was melting the 181 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.759 wall, and I realized, oh, I shouldn't do that. That's dangerous, 182 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.120 And you know, that was that was it. I scratched my itch 183 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:30.080 of being a pyromaniac or somebody who's into explosives pretty early, and I got 184 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:33.200 it out of the way. So yeah, happy Fourth of July week, 185 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:35.559 everybody, not to rain on your parade. But again, more than anything 186 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.240 again, let that that's That's the best way to do it without seeming like 187 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:45.000 I'm being judgmental and I'm making fun of people. You tell me what am 188 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:50.679 I missing when it comes to fireworks? What makes them cool? If you 189 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.120 got any answers, let us know, all right. It is Coffee and 190 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.720 Company. That's us. We are feeled by Thornton's. My name is Nick 191 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.799 Coffee. The company man John Alten is alongside and with a being July first, 192 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.679 this is a new year for college sports. Essentially, we got a 193 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:11.480 ways to go before we actually get any Actually, what's the first season of 194 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.360 college sports? I believe it's men's and women's soccer, but I could be 195 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.559 wrong that I know it starts a little bit before college football. Yeah, 196 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.639 when does volleyball start around that same time? They're all pretty cool? Yes, 197 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:28.000 So July first is typically when when you really turn over the calendar year 198 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:33.919 as far as an athletic season, you know, I've seen in fact, 199 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.080 I was looking earlier on social media because I and we're going to get to 200 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.120 this in just a second, but today is the first day officially. I 201 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:43.200 mean, nothing's going on, doesn't feel any different, there's no results, 202 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:48.440 but today officially is the first day that SMU and Cal and Stanford in the 203 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:54.159 ACC and Oklahoma and Texas are officially in the SEC. And it's because these 204 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.840 expansion I mean, we'll get into the Big Ten and the Pac twelve because 205 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:00.200 believe it or not, like that league is dead, but it's all so 206 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.440 kind of not dead, which is a little complicated. But anyways, you'll 207 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:09.000 see a lot of these social media pages on Twitter and Instagram that are the 208 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.639 official athletic account for these schools, right, not just basketball and football, 209 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.399 but the one that is, you know, for the entire athletic department. 210 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.480 You'll see them putting out their annual like you know, year and review kind 211 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.080 of stuff like video highlights and that kind of stuff. So yeah, the 212 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:31.960 SEC and SEC officially added Oklahoma and Texas today at Stanford CALSMU or the ACC 213 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:37.240 the Big Ten of course, and this I feel like everybody's up to speed 214 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.440 as far as the realignment that's gone on. But I don't know, maybe 215 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.159 you haven't because a lot of these moves were announced long ago and you know, 216 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.080 maybe you forgot about it. But it is weird looking at this updated 217 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:54.320 graphic that shows Power five football because I think technically you could say that the 218 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.240 Power five is it does still exist. And we'll get to that in a 219 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:03.320 minute. Because Oklahoma, not Oklahoma, but Oregon State in Washington State, 220 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:09.480 they're still in the PAC twelve. They have a scheduling arrangement with the Mountain 221 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.679 West, but like there's a lawsuit going on and I don't know where their 222 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.679 game is going to be played on TV because there's obviously no PAC twelve network 223 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.639 anymore. But they're not independent. They're in the PAC twelve. But clearly, 224 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.240 I don't think anybody is going to think of these two. And eventually 225 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.360 the PAC twel will probably be dead, I would assume. And if they 226 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.279 merged, like if the PAC twelve in the Mountain West fully merged and they 227 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.679 called it the PAC twelve, it would still not be a part of the 228 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.240 Power five, and it would not be a part of like they would be 229 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:41.000 a G five conference. When it comes to the college football playoff, that's 230 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.360 already been done and decided. Anyways, Again, the SEC just two new 231 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:50.080 editions and that is Texas Oklahoma the Big Ten. August first is when their 232 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:52.960 move actually takes place. I don't know why it's a month later, but 233 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.679 and just it's weird to look at the Big Ten Conference. You know, 234 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:01.159 you see the Indianas, the Illinois, oh Io State, Iowa, penn 235 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:05.000 State. That looks like, you know, some traditional Big Ten powers, 236 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:07.440 right, that's a that's a that's a big part of the Big Ten brand. 237 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:16.840 And then you see Washington USC UCLA in Oregon, and that that's just 238 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.320 weird to me. You will get used to it, you know, when 239 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:24.519 I see conference matchups and it features teams that are new to a league, 240 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.799 that you're so used to. Eventually it's not something I you know, eventually 241 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.600 you just you know, you get used to it. But until we see 242 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.200 it in action, it just it's just, you know, it's it's weird, 243 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:39.399 it's it's unusual, and it's not. It's not just because of geography, 244 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.600 right Like, clearly the Big Ten had a footprint that was pretty specific 245 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.200 aus to one region of the country, and you know now like that that 246 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.200 geographically it hasn't mattered in a long time, but just the brand, right 247 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.399 like when I think Oregon, I think PAC twelve. When I think USC, 248 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.600 I think PAC twelve, I don't think Big Ten. And with the 249 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:06.360 AC, I mean, I'm happy Louisville got an invite to the league at 250 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:07.960 the time they did, because at that point, you know, it's really 251 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.000 just about survival. And I've shared my thoughts on the ACC before and I'm 252 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.799 gonna get to that coming up a little bit later on because U of L 253 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:19.039 on their Twitter account asked fans to share their favorite ACC memory since today marks 254 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:23.399 the ten year anniversary of Louisville being in the league, and I you know, 255 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:26.600 I've got I've got a thought on that, And there have been some 256 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.320 great moments, obviously, but my whole thing is this what has Louisville Athletics 257 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:37.480 accomplished big picture that you really feel is is something that for the rest of 258 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.399 your life as a Louisville fan, you'll remember it and it'll be a moment 259 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.360 that stands out, maybe not the best moment ever, but just something that 260 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.200 was like, Wow, that was a great season. They made a great 261 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:49.159 run, this happened. That happened. I can't think of anything that Louisville 262 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:56.039 has done that they were able to do because they were in the ACC that 263 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:57.279 you know that stands out to me is like, wow, that was a 264 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.960 big deal. We wouldn't have been able to have that if there wasn't for 265 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:04.880 the ACC. I know I sound ungrateful because again, they snatched Louisville up 266 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:11.880 at a time whenever you needed to be snatched up. But to see the 267 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:19.359 SEC clearly getting better with brand names, I mean Texas and Oklahoma, especially 268 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:23.240 Texas, you know they're they're they're they're wrong, but they're walking in the 269 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.839 SEC and they think they run that league now, and they're gonna be pretty 270 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.880 vocal about it, right because they're Texas. They think they can do anything. 271 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.640 They they have resources to do anything and pay for anything, but it's 272 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:38.160 oftentimes not produce the kind of results that you'd expect. But anyways, those 273 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:42.240 are big additions to the SEC that was already a great league, Big ten, 274 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:47.480 same thing, right, Like all four of those teams, I think 275 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.000 you could make the case clearly makes that league better when it comes to brand 276 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:59.039 recognition and value. The ACC added Stanford, SMU, and CAL. That's 277 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:03.119 adding just to add. There's no significant boost. I mean, yeah, 278 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:06.839 you can make some more money just because you are now in different markets and 279 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:11.519 whatnot, but that this looks like you were just snatching up teams to snatch 280 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:17.160 up teams. Now I've always said the most I want to say it's an 281 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:22.480 unknown, but like it's the least talked about component of the ACC's recent expansion 282 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:26.119 and their future, and that is that I think Texas. I'm not Texas. 283 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:30.559 I think SMU, Stanford, and CAL were added not because they were 284 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:34.680 trying to get some West Coast presence and some Texas and some presence in the 285 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:41.400 Dallas market with SMU, it's because if in fact, you lose I mean, 286 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.559 let's say you lose notre to and let's see you lose Florida State and 287 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:48.160 Clemson, like a lot of people expected in North Carolina leaves for the Big 288 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:56.319 ten. If you end up below fifteen teams in your league, you I 289 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.680 mean the ACC probably mean the ACC at that point, they're always going to 290 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.839 try to add teams to get to stay at fifteen. And this is because 291 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:08.160 the ESPN agreement with the ACC network right the grain of rights that everybody's complaining 292 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:12.599 about for years, and it's deserving to be complained about, because it's nonsense 293 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.799 that that is locked in for twenty years. But anyways, what I'm getting 294 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:22.000 at is, if you fall below fifteen, ESPN has the right to reassess 295 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:26.839 and give you less money, and they would. Right, there's terrible rev 296 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.920 share right now in this league compared to the Big ten in the SCC, 297 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:33.519 And I know it's in third place, but man, can people in the 298 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.400 AEC stop bragging about being in third place? Like it could be worse? 299 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.960 But I also feel like it's pretty telling that you know you're, hey, 300 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.559 we're third most money, third most money. Again, that's better than being 301 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:48.039 fourth or fifth, but like it's also desperate. It looks desperate I think 302 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:51.799 because you know you currently are third and you may stay third, but you're 303 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:53.480 probably not. You're going to move to foward with the Big twelve. And 304 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.319 while you're locked into twenty thirty six, the SEC and the Big ten are 305 00:19:56.359 --> 00:20:00.960 just going to keep making more and more money. So so if you lose 306 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:06.480 those two teams Clemson in Florida State, ESPN would have a right to reassess 307 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:08.160 and say, actually, you're not even worth the money that we're paying you 308 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.359 now that you complain about, because that would be a huge hit to the 309 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:15.640 league. So I think they're always going to try to stay at fifteen, 310 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.880 to stay locked into twenty thirty six. Like, even if you lose those 311 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:22.880 two teams, I bet they add Memphis, I bet they add I don't 312 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.839 know Yukon if you can, would leave the Big East because of football, 313 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.599 because they're going to try to stay at fifteen because without fifteen, I think 314 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:33.079 that would be the real death nail for the league and you'd start to see, 315 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.680 you know, you start to see others try to find a spot elsewhere. 316 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:45.559 Now the Big twelve, I guess, let's see the Big twelve. 317 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:52.720 They have fit two straight years with some significant expansions, so BYU Central Florida, 318 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:59.079 Houston, and who else joined? Yeah, Cincinnati joined last year. 319 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.200 Now I guess maybe it's August first as well. You're adding Arizona, Arizona 320 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:11.279 State, Colorado, and Utah, So I mean, again, those are 321 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:15.279 better additions to I mean again, there's no way to sugarcoat it. The 322 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.720 Big Twelve did not you know, did not get back what it lost in 323 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:23.839 Oklahoma and Texas, right, But I mean those are some pretty solid additions 324 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:29.039 to where you can see yourself being a pretty pretty good league. What's appealing 325 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:32.359 to me about the Big Twelve, and I guess this could also be used 326 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.519 as the weakness of the league is that it's wide open, you know what 327 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:38.319 I mean, Like, you got some pretty solid programs in there, but 328 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:42.279 also you know, there's nobody that you feel like you would have to fear 329 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:48.319 every year. So yeah, the PAC twelve again, Oregon State, Washington 330 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:53.200 State, like it technically still exists, so they're scheduling. Yeah, Oregon 331 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:57.759 State and Washington State have officially made a scheduling deal with the Mountain West for 332 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:00.839 at least this upcoming season. And this is from hero sports dot Com. 333 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:07.119 There's still a possibility of there being a Mountain West Pac twelve merger or those 334 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:10.960 two schools joining them Mount West eventually. But what's happening right now is this 335 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.359 lawsuit. And it sounds like from what I'm reading here, these two schools, 336 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.720 the loan two members left in the PAC twelve have actually had some success 337 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.240 in this in this case, I don't know what they're fighting for, if 338 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.960 they're wanting. I mean, I don't really know what they're I mean, 339 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:29.039 again, those schools are gone. They paid the exit fee leave. I 340 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:33.319 don't really know what Washington state and I guess maybe they want money from those 341 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:38.640 schools because they they bailed and you know, didn't honor their agreement to be 342 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.759 locked into the grant of rights. But then again, that's why you pay 343 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.400 the exit fee, which the lead, which these schools paid. So yeah, 344 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:51.240 I'd tell you what the the weirdest of all these moves that have been 345 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:55.480 made. What do you think is going to be the just the weirdest visually, 346 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:59.079 Like when you turn on your TV and you see these two, it's 347 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:00.640 got to be the West coast in the Big ten, right, Yeah? 348 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.920 That? Or like when Louisville plays cal or Stanford, any of those leftover 349 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:10.920 ACC teams you could call them. Yeah, I mean it's just there. 350 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:15.279 There's been a lot of expansion in my life as a college basketball fan, 351 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.359 but it all it comes in waves, right, Like you had a huge 352 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:25.079 wave that happened, you know about twelve years ago when the Big Ten added 353 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:30.039 Rutgers and in Maryland and Nebraska. Yeah, and the SEC added A and 354 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:34.000 M and Missouri and Missouri. Yeah. I mean that, And then of 355 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.599 course that wave continued to where you ended up with, you know, the 356 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.920 ACC expanding, Louislle was able to join obviously, the Big twelve added West 357 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.519 Virginia, and then it was pretty stagnant for a while, right and then 358 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.200 now, I mean last year, this year, and and it's it's gonna 359 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.079 be a lot different, no doubt. I mean, he we technically have. 360 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:56.559 I mean, one of these leagues is essentially dead. I mean they're 361 00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.839 still fighting for survice. I mean, what are they wanting out of this? 362 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.039 I guess just money and they're gonna need it, right because with the 363 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:04.279 league falling apart, they don't have the same revenue coming in as they used 364 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:08.559 to from the Pac twelve deal. But anyways, let's get to a quick 365 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:11.920 time out. We'll talk a little more about the ACC on the other side, 366 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.240 because again I'm not saying like we should try to leave the ACC right 367 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.400 away, although if you had an exit and you could get out, I 368 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.640 would if the landing spot was, you know, the Big twelve or something. 369 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.720 But I just, again, I have no problem in saying it. 370 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.319 I know it sounds ungrateful, That's not where I'm coming from. But I 371 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.319 feel like ten years in the ACC, who knows what it would have looked 372 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:36.359 like if you never got invited and you were in the American League for a 373 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:40.400 long time, that wouldn't be ideal. But I also just feel underwhelmed, 374 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:44.799 Like I felt like we were entering a different world essentially when Louisville joined the 375 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.960 ACC, and it just hasn't really felt like that for some reason. All 376 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:49.279 right, don't go anywhere. It's Coffee and Company. We are field by 377 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:55.759 Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Welcome back Coffee and Company. 378 00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.680 That's us fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 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Is there any chance that you feel underwhelmed by the ACC because 389 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:38.079 Louisville hasn't been able to be as competitive in this league as they were previous 390 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:44.759 leagues. It's a fair question, and you may be onto something. I 391 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:52.119 mean, in football, as much as as much as I've been pretty brutal 392 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.920 as far as honesty about the league, I mean it to me, the 393 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.319 ACC has not been a very good football league for a while. You know, 394 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:00.720 every now and then you'll have a really good team like Florida State last 395 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:07.119 year, Clemson had a great, great run going, and randomly there'll be 396 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.039 a team that you know puts together a good season, but just collectively, 397 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:12.920 right like I think the ACC when it comes to football. When I thought 398 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:18.119 of Louisville going to the ACC whenever, you know, that day happened right 399 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.920 and it came together quickly, which was which was awesome, and it's it's 400 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.240 it's crazy to think about it now you've been in this league ten years. 401 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.039 But during realignment, there was no belief that they would ever be in the 402 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.279 ACC. Not because of an INFI but because they just didn't feel like they 403 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.480 could academically qualify to be in the league. Like Tom Jurich was trying like 404 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.599 hell and probably working harder than any any athletic director to you know, to 405 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.319 find a landing spot in the Big twelve obviously was the potential landing spot, 406 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.839 and they chose West Virginia and that was I mean, I remember, of 407 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:55.039 course that was so long ago when that happened, but I remember the inability 408 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:03.240 to downplay this significance of losing that bid. And I don't think that you 409 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.519 know they were they weren't. You know, was in a press conference where 410 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.200 Tom Jerch cried, but you know what I mean, Like it was quite 411 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:14.039 clear that you could see it in everybody's reaction with the athletic department and then 412 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:15.079 Tom who was pretty much. You know, what you see is what you 413 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.079 get. Kind of guy. As far as how he addressed things like that 414 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.039 was brutal, and you worried about you know, man, are we going 415 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.920 to be you know, we're gonna be stuck in the American And it all 416 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.519 worked out. But the ACC thing, Man, I could be wrong here. 417 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:32.480 So long ago. I kind of feel like when Maryland randomly up and 418 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:37.880 left up and left the the ACC for the Big Ten, which what opened 419 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.799 up in the Big Ten for Maryland to join? That's what I don't That's 420 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.920 what I don't know. I don't think there were ever any openings because for 421 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:49.279 a while eleven teams bigs never lost anybody. Right now, they added Nebraska, 422 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:53.480 who was the twelfth, and then Maryland and Rutgers collectively they came together. 423 00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:57.759 Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, so you know, whenever whenever 424 00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:04.400 Maryland was was out, Uh yeah, Rutgers was leaving the Big East, 425 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:10.160 right, Yes, But I don't remember if Rutgers spent a year in the 426 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:14.400 American like Louisville did. Either way, it's not it's and in fact I 427 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.319 think they did. So. Yeah, the opening in the ACC was there, 428 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.440 and everybody who was covering college sports at the time, on the internet, 429 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.799 on television, it just assumed it was going to be Connecticut because Yukon. 430 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.720 I mean, the Yukon is right there next to where ESPN's headquartered, 431 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.920 and obviously there was already a relationship between the ACC and ESPN and Yukon. 432 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.359 Of course, in basketball, they were fresh off a national championship. In 433 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.559 fact, they won two of them in a matter of what Kimba won. 434 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.920 The Kimba win one, yes, yeah, so Kimba and then Shabaz Napier 435 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.279 and those guys. Yeah, So it just looked as if it was gonna 436 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.519 be Yukon. And honestly, let's be real, like, from a geographic 437 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:57.480 standpoint, I mean, I just felt like that made more sense, even 438 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.119 though we knew we knew that didn't matter. But they looked at Louisville's body 439 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.240 of work as an athletic department. Football was thriving. And that's why I 440 00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:08.880 always feel as if Charlie Strong hadn't put Louisville football in that spot at that 441 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:15.119 time where they were competitive at a Heisman Trophy candidate knocked off I mean, 442 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.400 heck, they knocked off a I mean, I don't know if Louisville got 443 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.599 the invite before or after the Sugar Bowl. I feel like it was after, 444 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.160 but either way, I mean, Louisville had good momentum. We already 445 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.000 know what Louisville was in basketball, and then the other sports were really good 446 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:32.519 as well, right like women's basketball and baseball. I mean, look Tom 447 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:37.000 Jurich at the time he was here. You know, Louisville was pretty good 448 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.799 or really good in not all sports, but most of them. And that 449 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.640 is something the ACC valued, which you know, was refreshing because before that 450 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.079 all we'd heard about, well, how big is your TV market? That's 451 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:51.519 all anybody talked about the first go round. So you know, when Louisville 452 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.720 to go back to what I was getting to whenever I think of Louisville in 453 00:29:55.759 --> 00:30:00.640 two thousand and thirteen, a year before they joined the league, and wow, 454 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.519 big, we're heading to the big league. Now. With college football, 455 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:10.119 I just assumed that you'd have Clemson and Florida State in Miami just always 456 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.240 being good, like there's no scenario those those three teams are ever not consistently 457 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.599 top twenty teams, and then you throw in a Pittsburgh who's pretty good every 458 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.039 now and then and then a Virginia Tech who has a lot of history and 459 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:25.640 tradition. I mean, who else am I missing from from the league that 460 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.720 you know that I you know, Pitt obviously joined around the same time. 461 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.960 But I feel like I'm blanking on. I mean, Carolina is never good 462 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:34.839 in c State. They've got tradition, they've got some history. I mean, 463 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:38.920 they're not elite by any means, but they certainly have have held their 464 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:44.000 own So just collectively, it's never worked out. Like I can't think of 465 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.319 the last time we watched college football in the ACC and felt like, wow, 466 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.119 man, this league is is deep. You've got six seven teams you 467 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.640 know, are pretty damn good. Three of them look like they might be 468 00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:57.359 able to, you know, make the playoff like it is. That hadn't 469 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:02.599 happened. And maybe that was just mean, you know, realizing how ridiculous 470 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:06.599 that is because maybe that's not doable. But I just expected there to be 471 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:11.119 a big bump in you know, status, because you're in the ACC and 472 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.599 no longer in the American of the Big East, and that just really never 473 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.920 never really played out. But to go back to your question, you know, 474 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.359 do I think that maybe I feel underwhelmed because Louisville has been underwhelming in 475 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.880 the league. There's there's some truth to that, I would assume. I 476 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.920 mean, I feel like now I'm like laying on that couch at a therapist 477 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.799 office, like thinking about it, like, you know what, maybe you're 478 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.680 right, because you know, being able to play big games against Clemson in 479 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.680 Florida State like that is something you could not do beforehand, right, Like 480 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.519 you would need to play those games in a bowl game or you know, 481 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.519 a non conference game or non conference scheduled matchup. But that just isn't realistic 482 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.759 because when Louisville was good, why would any of those teams schedule them in 483 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.279 non conference when they're in the Big East. So you've never beat Clemson, 484 00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.960 and you beat Florida State here and there, but never you know, consistently. 485 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.759 So maybe that's part of it. And in basketball, I don't know. 486 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.920 I wasn't. I wasn't not to sound like a snob like I know 487 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.279 Louisville's coming off of two disastrous seasons when it comes to hoops, but I 488 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:15.799 wasn't looking at Louisville joining the ACC as if like they're going to have to 489 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.519 really, you know, get their crap together, because at the time. 490 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.519 I mean Louisville was fresh off national championship. I mean when Louisville was, 491 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.000 you know, in the midst of leaving the Big East for the American for 492 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.079 one year and then I mean like they were in a great spot. But 493 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.880 yeah, you haven't. You haven't won the league, the ACC, and 494 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.599 you haven't I mean if you won more than an a game in the ACC 495 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.279 tournament since you've been in the league, So yeah, maybe you're onto something 496 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:49.160 there. In fact, the I believe the highest finish you ever had in 497 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:53.799 the ACC might have been in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, which, of 498 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.680 course is this season that you know, didn't have a didn't have closure, 499 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.519 we didn't have a NCAA tournament, so it's an easily forgotten season. Yeah, 500 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:06.640 Louisville went in conference play. They went fifteen and five, which was 501 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.720 their best record, best win percentage since joining the league, and I think 502 00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:15.160 the tie breaker had them at the number. Yeah, so sixteen and four 503 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:20.279 was Florida State, which is random, but I totally I would have never 504 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:24.319 guessed that. But I remember Florida State accepting the ACC Championship Tournament trophy despite 505 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.400 their not being a tournament because they won the regular season, but they were 506 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.559 sixteen and four. Duke Louisville and Virginia were all fifteen and five, and 507 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:37.480 I think the tie breaker played out to where Louisville actually ended up being in 508 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:45.279 third place. Maybe so. And look, part of my thoughts on the 509 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:50.599 ACC have a lot are based off of the current situation. Right, Like, 510 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.519 everybody's stuck together, and that's a good thing because it keeps you, 511 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:58.799 keeps you united. But I don't think anybody wants to stay in this league 512 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.359 if they can get in to the SEC or the ACC and maybe even the 513 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.000 Big Twelve. And Louisville's not gonna be one of the first invited from one 514 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.880 of those leagues that they choose to expand. And there's some kind of a 515 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:15.559 exit strategy, meaning to get out of the ACC without having to pay a 516 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.440 gazillion dollars for the grant of rights and all that. But you know, 517 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:24.519 if those if Clemson, Florida, State, Carolina, you know, Virginia, 518 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.360 if they get invites and they're out. I mean, I think if 519 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.440 you're Josh Hurd, you'd be wise to read the room and say, you 520 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.599 know, let's see if the Big Twelve would be interested because again, without 521 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:43.639 those three schools, four schools, I mean, you're you're better than what 522 00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.840 the Mountain West is, right if they add Oregon State and Washington State. 523 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.760 But I think at that point, I don't know, part of me says 524 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.679 you'd be a distant fourth as far as best conference. But then again, 525 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.519 you know, maybe the Big twelve can stay. Maybe maybe you're right there 526 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:02.079 neck and neck with the Big twelve and there's but then again, like that's 527 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.400 the divide, right like, and that's probably mean that's really already what it 528 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.199 is now, right Like, I'm thinking about this as if like it's impending 529 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.840 to be a disaster where you're just clearly JV. But let's be real when 530 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:17.519 it comes to league affiliation, money, reach all that, which to fans, 531 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.079 like some of you don't care, and I get it, and it 532 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.880 doesn't really pertain to I mean, I want what's best for u of L 533 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.480 as a UFL fan, but you know, I mean it's out of our 534 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.519 control, right. I hope they can, you know, find theirself in 535 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.480 a good conference if the ACC implodes, and you know, what are we 536 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.039 gonna do? Stop cheering for them? I don't think it's gonna matter when 537 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.840 it comes to that. But like right now, it's so clearly two different 538 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.480 worlds. You have the SEC and the Big ten, who are the dominant 539 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:44.199 big money, big program, big value, and then you've got everybody else, 540 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:45.880 which is the ACC in the Big twelve. And maybe they flip flop 541 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.880 as far as who makes the most money on this grant of rights deal. 542 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:52.119 Then there's a new one in place and they get more money. But again, 543 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.519 what sucks for the ACC is they do not have the ability to go 544 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.840 back to the you know, to the table and reset and get more money 545 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:05.440 for another twelve years, twelve years, twenty thirty six. It's crazy. 546 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.239 All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side and wrap 547 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.960 up the three o'clock hour. Get back to the text line. We're gonna 548 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.760 be all over the place today, which I hope is okay with you guys, 549 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.519 because that's what's happening right here. Coffee and Company feel by Thornton's on 550 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:22.559 Sports Talk seven ninety. All right, let's go to the text line five 551 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.159 O two sixty five three zero seven nineties the number if you want to contribute 552 00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.039 to the show that way. I mean, I'm not sure how much of 553 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.360 a contribution, it's going to be but fire away questions, compliance, complements, 554 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.440 insults, whatever you have, feel free to send it our way again. 555 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:37.840 Five O two six five three zero seven ninety. It's the L and 556 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:42.320 N Federal Credit Union text line. So I asked earlier what am I missing? 557 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.159 Why do people love fireworks so much? What is the appeal? What's 558 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.800 the entertainment value that you get out of it? And we had a good 559 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.639 text here that comes in from somebody who looks like they've texted for the first 560 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.239 time. If it just says Nick, I have a theory. I know 561 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.840 growing up, I'm a little bit older than you. But there used to 562 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:04.400 be signs all over the place in Tennessee and in Indiana right at the border, 563 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.880 and they would promote how you had to be in this state or that 564 00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.320 state to buy it, and you couldn't get it in Kentucky. I feel 565 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:15.639 like there used to be a level of a feeling like a bad ass, 566 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.719 and then there's more. Yeah, so I'm not gonna read the entire thing, 567 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:21.599 but maybe that is something. I don't know if you know that, 568 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:22.719 John, if that's still a thing. But they're used a lot of the 569 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:28.239 marketing and the advertising would be that, you know, these fireworks are so 570 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.920 bad ass that like your state doesn't let you buy them, so you got 571 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.639 to buy them here. Yeah, and plus it's kind of the one night 572 00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.119 a year where you can kind of be as loud as you want and no 573 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.000 one's gonna call the police. Yeah, I mean to an extent, obviously, 574 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.159 what's the fun in that? Like, that's what I don't That's what 575 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.079 I don't mean. Yeah, I mean, there's just the rebellious attitude of 576 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:51.079 some people. Yeah, I mean, I remember the the I don't there's 577 00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:55.119 a setup in the cause usually it's like shopping center parking lots is where these 578 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.559 people are set up with the tents, right, and there's one where my 579 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.360 kid goes the daycare and there, I mean, it's nearly the whole parking 580 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.719 lot, it seems. But they don't have like any signs about any specific 581 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.400 like you know, there's not like a there's nothing that you see from the 582 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.400 side of the road that's like I got to pull in here and get them. 583 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:15.360 I mean, it's just like one of the other fireworks spots. But 584 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.159 I feel like there used to be signs that these came from Tennessee or these 585 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.039 came from such and such. It was probably all just a lie to make 586 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.639 you feel like you were buying something that like they only have when in reality, 587 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.400 I'm sure everybody else has it. And are there really like regular like 588 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.360 are there regulations on that? Like are there fireworks that are legal in this 589 00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.360 state and not that state? I'm sure there are, but you know, 590 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.360 do people really know specifically? You know, this is legal in fifty states, 591 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:44.599 this one's only legal in half the Like, I don't know. Just 592 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.960 it's if that's why you buy them, because you feel like you're badass because 593 00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.840 you're crossing state lines to get something not allowed where you live, then you 594 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:57.760 know, knock yourself out. This person says, Nick, I'm not I'm 595 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.639 gonna assume you're being serious. But then again, sometimes like maybe I'm just 596 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.639 getting trolled here, but this person says, uh, fireworks are their favorite 597 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:09.639 part of the summer, and they they let me see here the yeah, 598 00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:12.920 they said that they I didn't want to mess it up. They said that 599 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.400 the sky is their canvas when they light off fireworks, Like you must be 600 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.800 getting the real high level stuff, right, sky graffiti, Like if the 601 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.960 sky is your canvas, I feel like you've got some high dollar stuff that 602 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:27.440 really does you know. I mean, they look they look cool enough, 603 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:29.320 but like, you know, once I've seen it, I'm like, you 604 00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.039 know, if I'm at a fireworks show and you know, it's all the 605 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.159 same loud stuff that goes in the air and explodes, and you've got this 606 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.280 color that color, like that's that's kind of cool. But then I'm probably 607 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.800 just sitting or sitting on my phone looking at something else because like I'm bored 608 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:46.719 with that, Like it doesn't you know, what else is it going to 609 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.480 do to entertain me? I don't you know, I don't get it. 610 00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:52.960 And then we had a few people that kind of said this is that they 611 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.159 do understand the appeal of how they look, but they don't understand the ones 612 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.280 that just are loud, and that I'm with you, because you know, 613 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:07.280 there's a level of like blowing up stuff that's just cool kind of but I 614 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.159 don't know, I just can't imagine spending my own money to do that, 615 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.159 because once you've done that, that's over. And what do you have the 616 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.079 memory of an explosion that is not a visual, it's just a sound. 617 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:21.159 Like some don't get it. I love Piro at concerts but outside of the 618 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.360 concert environment, I could care less about any loud noises like that. We 619 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.920 had somebody mention that drone shows are the way to go. Do you know 620 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.480 what a drone show is? I know, I don't know that it's seen 621 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.480 one. I know Thunder over Louisville incorporates a small drone show into what they 622 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.360 do now, and I think a couple of amusement parks to the kind of 623 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.159 thing too. I think Holiday World does something either way. It's a it's 624 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.159 a newer way in a quieter way. I should say, Yeah, so 625 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.800 doing that kind of stuff a quick. I've heard of a drone show. 626 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.039 I just couldn't tell you exactly what it was, but yeah, I'm looking 627 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.559 up one that shows me pictures from last year. It's a fourth of July 628 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.000 drone show with you know, patriotic I mean, it doesn't really look like 629 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:04.920 fireworks, but you know kind of. So maybe that's maybe that'll be the 630 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.719 new thing, but I doubt it. Man. People love blowing up stuff 631 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.320 and as long as they're still selling it, people will buy it. And 632 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.960 you know, make loud noises. I can tell you where you need to 633 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:21.360 turn when it comes to uh low t it's not any fireworks stand in fact, 634 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.239 I can't prove this, but I have a feeling you your fireworks probably 635 00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:30.000 won't be as explosive and as impressive if the T is low when you light 636 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.159 them. If the T levels are up, fireworks are gonna be louder, 637 00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.679 They're gonna be more explosive. You're gonna You're gonna actually be a bigger badass. 638 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:38.800 I can't prove it, but you know, I believe it. Louis 639 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.639 Men's Clinic can help you with that, folks. Louile Men's Clinic dot com. 640 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.760 Give them a call FABO two four four four four thousand. 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All right, A lot more to 658 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.360 come in these next couple of hours, including some really encouraging numbers already from 659 00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:00.159 TBT ticket sales, so we'll talk about that. Also, the Kyle Filipowski 660 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:05.719 situation continues to be a talking point. I don't feel like there's a whole 661 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.599 lot of new information out there since we talked about it Friday, but it's 662 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.840 kind of become the story of the draft because it's just unusual. But I've 663 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.320 got some thoughts for the family. Who's blaming Duke and like claiming that you 664 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:24.159 know they're at fault here or letting this happens. That's nonsense, And who 665 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:28.000 else knows what? Who knows what else we're going to get into in the 666 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.719 next couple of hours, So stick with us right here. 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