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Matt Shepherd back with you on Exus
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that you're part of it. Love
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afternoon from three till six on all
these great station affiliates. Tigers rained out

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yesterday because some other nature. They
will be back in action in a double

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dip today against Pittsburgh. Meanwhile,
in basketball, Minnesota beats Dallas one oh

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five to one hundred. You know, the Timberwolves has led in the last

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five minutes in every game so far
this year in this series, I should

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say, okay. Anyway, they
went at one oh five to one hundred

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to stave off elimination. Anthony Edwards, Karl Anthony Towns combined for fifty four

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points. Luka, Doncis had another
triple double. He's amazing, man.

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The more you watch him, the
more you think as pure as stroke as

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he has, he's he might be
a better passer than shooter and it shouldn't

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surprise us. I mean, he
was second in the league in assists.

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I don't know if people realize that
Tyrese Haliburton is the only one who had

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a better assistory show than he did. Anyway, it's three games to one

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now. MAVs leaded two to two
in the Eastern Conference playoffs in the NHL

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because Florida won in overtime Sam Reinhart
with the power play goal. They win

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in overtime three two over New York
to tie that series at two games apiece.

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It is an exhausting series. I
mean those the Stanley Cup playoffs,

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man, I mean it's just every
other day. I love it. I

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love watching it, but playing in
it, oh god, that's got to

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take a lot out of you,
man. Simply incredible. We spent the

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first hour talking about and we'll try
to dive into some football coming up here.

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I think there's I think there's quite
a bit of a football discussion to

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be had. But we spent the
first half first hour of the program talking

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about Scott Harris's comments to Brian Kenny
on MLB Network and how they have to

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build the foundation for the Tigers before
they're going to increase or go heavy in

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payroll. I don't think any Tigers
fan expects them to go two hundred million

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dollars. I think they understand the
realities of what they face now. I

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think some of that is also self
induced. It's that chicken or the egg

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stuff, right, I mean,
you got to win in order for people

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to come through the gates. You
got to put a product on the field

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that people want to go see.
On the other hand, you need money

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to spend. People are gonna shake
their heads and say, look, man,

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if you don't have the money,
and again, I don't think it's

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two hundred million dollars. I don't
think people expect two hundred million dollars.

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What I do believe they expect is
to be somewhere in the middle of the

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pack at least more than one hundred
and six million dollars, and spend it

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properly, and spend it wisely,
and spend it in an area talent wise

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on the field that's going to make
you more competitive and a more enjoyable product

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to watch. Everybody knew. Everybody
knew that they needed more power, they

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needed guys who can do some damage
in the middle of the lineup. I

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said, I'm not saying this now. I didn't say this in the off

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season. I said it during the
season last year. This team needs to

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go out and get a bat like
Matt Chapman. That's what I said.

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I said it in Boston and people
were like, yes, yeah, that's

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exactly it. Matt, You're you're
right about that. I'm not playing general

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manager here. I'm not sitting here
trying to tell people this is the way

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I would do things, and it's
the right way. Here's what I know

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Matt Chapman. He's got an ops
plus of one fourteen, and that's a

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big number for people in the Tiger's
front office. He'll scare you a little

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bit in the Giants lineup. This
is a guy who has gold. He's

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a gold Glover, He's won four
of them. He's not a all time

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great player. Defensively, he's one
of the best to play his position.

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He's not an all time great player, but he will scare you in the

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middle of that lineup. He adds
depth to the lineup and they sign him

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for three years. To the phones
we go, it's the Meyer hotline.

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Eight six six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. Ben, who's next?

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Yeah, we got Jake and grand
Rappens Jake. Thanks for listening,

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man, We appreciate you tuning in
on WMAX ninety six point ONEFM. The

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game. Hey, chef, I
are we doing for him? Good yourself?

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Oh, we're making it. It's
another beautiful day in Michigan. So

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we're going, all right, give
a couple of thoughts on the you know,

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the foundational pieces quote unquote, and
obviously my head goes right to Green

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and Turflesen and as may they not
be every single day players. They're the

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two guys you would look to to
be that for this team, and that

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the production has just not been there. You could see glimpses with both of

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them. Obviously Green's a really good
defender and does well with the bat,

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and then with Treflesen, he hits
a home run here or there and he's

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like, Okay, this is when
he breaks out, and then he goes

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back into a two for sixteen twelve. I was just getting your thoughts about,

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you know, when does this become
hinching his coaching staff maybe not getting

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as much out of those players as
compared to some other coaching staff could get

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out of them. Yeah. I
think it's a really fair question. There's

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no doubt about that. At some
point I knew this was going to happen.

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At some point, people have to
look beyond the player. I think

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in baseball, I think it's really
hard, especially during the season, to

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try and get a guy out of
certain habits, change a guy's way of

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either swinging, standing, throwing,
all these different things. I think it's

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really challenging. Are they reaching them. I know what they do. I

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know they have hitters meetings, I
know they look at the iPad. I

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know all the different things that they
are going to do to try and help

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these individuals become better at what they
do. Spencer Torkolsen is one of the

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first ones in the ballpark every single
day. He and Riley Green are there,

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Carrie Carpenter is there. Those guys
are baseball rats. But at some

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point, I think you're right,
it has to come down to wait a

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minute, who is teaching these guys. Maybe a different voices needed. I

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wouldn't say that from a managerial standpoint, but I understand why you might want

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to take a deep dive look into
what you're hitting coaches or your coaches are

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doing with your players. Right.
I got that. You also head on,

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you know, some of the guys
that we know are foundational pieces,

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you know, markna Carson, Kelly, Jake Rogers. Those are guys that

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are just supposed to, you know, fill that void per se. But

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then I started thinking, Okay,
why is Dylan Dingler not up? If

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we know not good enough Kelly?
Right, that's issue? Yeah, absolutely

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right, No, you're one hundred
percent right, Jake. I could sit

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and thanks for the phone call.
I could sit there and complain all I

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want about that. They don't have
those foundational players, but they're because the

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guys who are supposed to be here
aren't here because they're not good enough.

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So you're one hundred percent right about
that. I'm not bringing Dylan Dingler up

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for the sake of bringing him up
because he was a second round draft pick.

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It's ridiculous. Don't be stupid.
Oh, give him a chance,

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give him a chance. He's failing
in double A, he's failed in triple

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A. Why would you bring him
up to the majors and let him fail

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there? Meyer Hotline eight six six
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Good call by Jake. We've had
a couple of good calls this morning.

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Dinglars having a decent year john in
Toledo right now. That's something that Jake

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and I were just talking about before
the break. I've been pretty consistent with

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this. Now I'm gonna stay consistent
with it, not overreacting, and not

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in either positive or negative way.
Dylan Dingler thirty four games in Toledo so

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far, batting three hundred great.
Don't get upset with me if I'd look

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at his twenty twenty three season,
where he played parts of the year in

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Erie, in Lakeland and Toledo and
combined bat at two fifty six, including

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two oho two in Toledo, I
understand it's a long and sometimes treacherous route

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to the major leagues. Dylan Dinglar's
twenty five. He's he's had some injuries.

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I am. I've got my fingers
crossed, my toes crossed that the

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former second round pick out of Ohio
State is going to be good enough to

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reach the majors next year. I
would love to see that. I'd love

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to see it as close to an
every day will Smith, like JT,

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really moved to a like catcher in
the Tigers organization, being that we really

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haven't had one home grown since Lance
Parish. As far as I'm concerned,

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I'm talking about an everyday catcher.
I think when you look at baseball right

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now, you see the numbers down. Offensive numbers are down. They are

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It's what are we about a third
of the way through the season. Yeah,

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offense is down, average is down, ops is down. ERA,

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pitching has been better. E ra
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three this year under four. I
think what Tiger fans were hoping for and

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perhaps still are is they're looking for
the cornerstone piece. Bobby Witt, Junior,

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Kansas City fielding war leads all of
baseball three point six. He's the

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reason Kansas City is where they are. Kyle Tucker in Houston eighteen bombs more

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than Aaron Judge, Gunner Henderson who
was leading the league in home runs for

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a while at seventeen and is playing
pretty solid defense. Right You're looking for

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something like that. You're looking for
Elie de la Cruz. Two pitchers you're

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going to see today. You're going
to see Jared Jones and Paul Skins,

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two guys who, historically, and
it's a small history, throw the ball

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well over one hundred miles an hour. You're gonna see some gas being thrown

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here today. Jones was a second
round pick in twenty twenty and he's already

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there making things happen. So we
were just talking about Dylan Dingler, weren't

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we. Yeah, Jared Jones was
taken after Dylan Dingler. Now he was

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taken after a lot of guys,
so let's be fair here. It's not

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cool to just bring up one name. But we were talking about Dylan Dingler.

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So I wanted to bring up the
guy who's starting Game one of the

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doubleheader today for Pittsburgh, small sample
size for him. I'm not going to

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sit there and say this is look
at how great this guy. He's made

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ten starts in his major league career. Let's back off for a moment,

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and that's the year. By the
way, Torkelsen was won one. We've

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got some texts you could text as
sports Radio to twenty one thousand Ben fire

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Away. It says everyone is going
to focus on the owner and resource quote,

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which is ridiculous in my opinion.
Let's focus on the flip flop of

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now saying kids and the miners can't
get the quality at bats and the miners

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versus up here. Just call out
Max Clark, McGonagall, Jayce, Young,

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Ty Madden and Jackson job and give
these guys the rest of this year

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and a real shot in spring training
to stick to next year. Freddy,

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honestly, you want to call up
a nineteen year old kid who has two

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hundred and ninety played appearances in the
minor leagues, has not reached high A,

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and you want to call him up
to the major leagues? Are you

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kidding me? Why in the world
would you do that? That makes no

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sense. You just want to You
want to rush through life calling up every

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young kid. How long will you
give him before he fails? And he

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will fail because he's failing it at
low A right now. You want to

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call him up just because he was
a first round draft pick. Ti Madden

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has fifty nine starts. Fifty nine
starts in his college and minor league career.

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That makes no sense either. Four
starts at Triple A, four starts

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at double A this year, last
year, twenty five starts with a three

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four three ERA and you want to
call him up. He's got one hundred

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and eighteen innings at the double A
level, but you think he's ready.

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I know, guys make the jump
from double A all the time. That

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doesn't mean that you have to rush
a guy. That's crazy. Honestly,

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that is that is simply ridiculous.
Why you would do that, You think

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that Max Clark, I'm not.
I am not one of those guys who

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believes you go low A high A, double A, triple A, majors

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bull crap. If a guy's good
enough, if he has shown you that

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he's good enough to play, then
you rate bring him up. Max Clark,

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Kevin mcconne have not shown you that
at all. What was the other

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name I know, Tid Madden was
one? Jase Young. Yeah. Look,

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first of all, this team doesn't
necessarily need it doesn't need ty Madden,

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So bringing him up makes no sense. Okay, it really doesn't.

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Don't bring him up because you're starting. Pitching for the most part, has

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been fine. Jace Young. He's
having a nice year right now in Toledo.

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If he continues, I would have
no issue with that whatsoever. I

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don't care that he's twenty three.
I really don't be interesting to see where

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they put him defensively. But if
he can hit and he can help this

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team, I'm all for it.
Clark McGonagall, No way. Twenty seven

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after the hour, I got to
take a quick time out. We'll take

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more of your texts, more of
your phone calls on the Meyer hotline when

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we return on Exus and Bros.
After this thirty five after the hour,

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welcome, and then as our producer, give m a call on the Meyer

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hotline eight sixty six eight three eight
forty eight forty three if you are compelled

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to do so, or you can
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Matt Shepherd here with you Monday through
Friday six and until nine, talking

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about the articles written about Scott Harris
based off the interview he gave to MLB

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Network yesterday. Tigers will bring in
or bring up the payroll as soon as

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the foundation is built. That foundation
is not there right now. How frustrating

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is that for you, knowing full
well that this is a winnable division,

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That's the whole thing about it.
You're gonna wait till the foundation is built.

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What just out of curiosity, if
you were to sign a guy like

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Matt Chapman, who I've suggested since
last summer, if you signed a guy

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like that to the contract San Francisco
signed him three years fifty four million dollars,

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which you could have done. Who
is he blocking because you hadn't signed

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Geo Orchelle yet? What third basement
prospect is he blocking over the next three

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years? Jace Young? You can
find out bets for Jay Young, and

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it's not like he's going to be
a goal glove third baseman. The big

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concern within the organization is where are
you going to play him? Much like

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Cole Keith, they're in lies.
Part of the problem too, a different

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problem, And I'm not saying it's
Scott Harris's problem because he didn't draft them.

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But you do have guys who aren't
very good defensively, they don't necessarily

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have a home. But who's he
blocking? Just so unclear. You could

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bring in Jill or Schella and afford
to have him as a blockade for one

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year, but you don't want a
gold glove all star third baseman like Matt

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Chapman, huh for two years after. That makes no sense. I wouldn't

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want to get caught up in long
term contracts with older players. I wouldn't.

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It was the problem with Miguel Cabrera. It's the issue right now with

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Javier Baiaz. We're talking three years
and you knew you weren't going to have

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your future quote unquote third baseman this
year. So that means it would be

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a two years he would have this
year if you had signed Chapman wasn't blocking

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anybody these year. He might block
somebody for two years. You can't find

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at bats for guys. Come on, sure you could just one example.

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I'm not saying I'm always right.
I'm just saying that that to me made

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a ton of sense. They needed
a third baseman, they needed to improve

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their defense, They needed a middle
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he didn't want to come here.
That's a that's fair. That's a fair

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defense. He didn't want to come
here. I have not heard that that

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they reached out and he said,
no, don't reach out, Ben.

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I know we got more techs fire
away. Yeah, it says, uh

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rap buy out bias. If my
aida continues to slip, move him to

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the pen. So job and Madden
can pitch decide on MYZ and Torque on

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what to do with them long long
term by the trade deadline, and I

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would make that Steve Kemp move.
Trade Riley Green, Yes, unpopular,

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but this team needs to put everything
into a ziploc bag, shake it up

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and see what's left by making lots
of trades to get his own players and

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see what he has now. Well, Jackson, job again, I'm not

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pulling him up after five starts in
eerie. I'm not doing that again.

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You're just rushing for the sake of
rushing sakes. So that caught my ear

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and I would say no to that
trading Riley Green. Look, we've talked

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about this with the Pistons for a
long time. Which guys do you have

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to keep? Personally? I want
to keep Riley Green. There is such

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a thing as as good players that
you want and who can be your foundation.

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He's one of those guys. Wouldn't
you agree with that? Don't you

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think he is one of the staple
of your team moving forward? Absolutely,

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you want your Steve Kemp deal,
so this has got to be I would

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guess you know, I don't know
who sent this text, but they've got

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their history down. Okay, so
ste you went, you went. If

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people don't know Steve Kemp, who
was a hell of a player at USC,

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but Steve Kemp was. He was
a good young player for the Tigers,

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and he was traded by Detroit to
Chicago. He was He was a

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one to one for Detroit in nineteen
seventy six, and then in nineteen eighty

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one they traded him Chicago for chet
Lemon. Later he would go to the

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Yankees and then to the Pirates.
But that's neither here nor there. Trade

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for chet Lemon, straight up,
chet Lemon was, you know, a

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key to the Tigers run in nineteen
eighty four. That was a straight up

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one on one for one deal.
Who's the guy you expect to get in

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return for Riley Green? You're gonna
get a left handed, decent power hitting,

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good fielding, everyday player. Those
are the things that we have to

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take into consideration. I believe.
Look, I I was reading about this

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the other day. This was a
very risky but the organization felt like they

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had to do it. And this
it's a different sport. I understand that.

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And I'm not saying everything is equal. All I'm saying is the Panthers

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became a pain in everybody's tail.
They became the team that played with more

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sandpaper than just about anybody else,
and they did so when they acquired Matthew

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could Chuck from Calgary, and it
was roughly, it wasn't straight up,

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but it was. It was a
very good deal for both teams. Fine,

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they were able to do that.
That's when some would tell you that's

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when things changed for Florida. I
can't say that it's definitive, but when

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you traded Jonathan Huberdough too Calgary for
Matthew could Chuck, things changed a little

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bit. Nothing against Huberdough, who
was who had one hundred and fifteen points

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his last season there, but Florida
said they needed a shift, so they

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sent two guys to Calgary. They
bring in Matthew Kuchuk, who had signed

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an eight year extension. It's surprised
most it has worked out for Florida.

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Well, if you can find that
deal, depending on the deal, maybe

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it's worth exploring. Personally, I
wouldn't do it because I I think he's

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a focal piece of this team moving
forward. At some point, you guys,

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you got to say this guy's worth
building around you can do that.

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You know, there are certain players
where you say, okay, I'm good

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there. Let me move on to
the next guy. To the Meyer hotline,

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we go, who's up next?
Ben? Yeah, we got Scott

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in gr Scotty. What's going on, hey, Buddie. Hopefully we have

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a better connection. I'm in the
food industry, so I travel all the

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time, so I am everywhere.
I wanted to give it you the from

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yesterday. First of all, I'm
poops not football with us there in the

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late eighties, early nineties, and
I coached summer camps for three years as

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well down there, so I'll get
to know Judd. I mean I became

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friends then. Now then I had
Then I coached high school varsity and jav

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for thirteen years. So until my
daughters, all my daughters, three daughters,

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thirty five, thirty two, and
twenty nine all hit their youth sports

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and I couldn't play it. I
couldn't do it anymore. Mamma said you're

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done. So that's all I side. My coach was nine okay, all

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right, no excuse me two thousand. But anyway, on the stuff,

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I think what has to happen,
and people have to take this sacrifice,

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and I'd love to see Scott Harris
do it. The guys that have to

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be You're not trading Green, you're
not training school ever, never out throw

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what started is they do that.
Those are yours, those are your building

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pieces, those are your potential multi
year All stars. But with that,

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Joel, I would I would agree. I would agree with Riley Green,

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I believe it or not. I
do not agree with Eric Scouoble. I

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would reason why. Okay, I
suppose the first thing you have to ask

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yourself will you be able to afford
him after next year? Because he's going

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to be a free agent in two
years. The second thing is is that

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really be the question? Well,
and I think it's one of the questions

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why shouldn't Why shouldn't we be because
this team is so depleted of everyday talent

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that you may have to do that. Okay, well I'm paying with these

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with these other young pieces, I
think we can get some talent and spend

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a little money and not as much. But with with Manning and Mies and

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Joe who are still highly say highly, but sours out after and then you're

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probably going to have to look at
Heath and cart and I don't want I

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don't want to get those guys up. But the thing that if you want

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to win, or if you want
to be competitive now we're heavy, young,

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and a lot of players are looked
bad as I think all around the

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league is really good, really good
pieces that people would like to work with,

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especially some really good coaching. And
then you were talking about the bias

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that if I were to coach,
I know they can't do this nowadays anymore.

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Back in the old days, I
find him every time he swings at

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anything anything from the black and beyond, when every single picture throws in those

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swingers in those I don't know why
he does. It's a mental thing,

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but I would. I know you
can't do it anymore. It doesn't it

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doesn't equaint today's society, of today's
well. I don't think any coach,

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no coach ever did that. No
coach ever said anytime you swing at a

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ball, you're getting fined. You
don't do that. I mean, no

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coach has ever done that. I'm
not saying a ball, I'm saying any

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anything. If a picture can throw
free on the black, how you can

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just sit stand there like house on
the side of the road and walk back

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to the dug. But I don't
think that can happen. I don't.

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I'm saying, yeah I do,
and thanks for the phone call. I

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appreciate it. I don't think you
do. You know you want to change

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the eye level, you want to
change his patterns, you want to change

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all that stuff. I get it, and I know how people I wouldn't.

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I wouldn't swing at a slider if
i'm sliders can be very They're very

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tempting. You know, we we
sometimes forget you have just a millisecond to

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make a decision. I'm not making
excuses for Howvey or bias, okay,

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because he gets fooled way too often, especially with sliders. But I'm just

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I'm just saying that you've got to
be You gotta be careful when you're throwing

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around ideas like, oh, you
know, I would just find him every

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time he swings at a pitch on
the black, or if you take three

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pitches on the black. Look,
look what happened to why at Langford not

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too long ago, he gets wrung
up by Angel Hernandez, which was ridiculous

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on three pitches that were outside the
black. You can't tell a guy just

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to sit there and take take,
take the only pitch you're going to swing.

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It is right down the middle.
As for the schoobl situation, he's

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had a couple of surgeries, and
that's the reason that I would be at

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least I'm not saying to trade him. I'm saying I would be open to

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exploring that if your team is out
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Yankees or a team like the Dodgers, teams that have deep minor league systems,

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and you can get a close to
baseball ready guy and you can address

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a couple of different aspects of your
team, catching, third, basement power,

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whatever things that you're lacking right now, would you do it? I

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would, knowing that pitching is your
strength right now. You can't sit there

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and tell me that, Oh,
you love Jackson Job, you love Tyme

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Madden, you love certain pitchers and
you're hoping that they can come up sometime

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soon when they're already blocked by guys
like Reees Olsen. You can find that

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veteran guy like Jack Flaherty, like
a Kenta Maeta for one season, could

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you not while your younger guys are
fitting into their roles. Absolutely, Again,

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I'm not suggesting you do it,
I'm saying you shouldn't be opposed to

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it. I wouldn't close it off
automatically. I don't know how much he's

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going to command, Like I don't
think he's not going to be a forty

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million dollar pitcher. Verlander's forty three
million, Sure's is forty three million,

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De Grahm's forty million, Cole's thirty
six million, Patrick Corbin's thirty four and

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a half million, Blake Snell's thirty
two million, Carlos Rodin's twenty eight million,

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Aaron Nola's twenty four and a half
million. You think he's getting that,

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maybe somebody will give it to him. I wouldn't give him forty million

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dollars. I wouldn't give him thirty
million dollars. But he is a Scott

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Boris client, and Scott Boris has
got some big name guys who've gotten some

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big name deals. So would you
do that. As far as the text

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saying I would buy out buy as
well, that's because that's because you're not

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the owner. He's gonna make twenty
twenty five million dollars next year, twenty

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four, the next year twenty four, the next year. That's seventy three

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million dollars. You're gonna write him
a check for seventy three million dollars,

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Go ahead, no problem, I
just buy him out. There's seventy three

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million dollars. Roll down the window, open up the briefcase, and just

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throw it out the window. That's
what you're doing. See. I would

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like to be away from the contract
too. That's where you and I do

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agree. But I'm not so naive
to think that if I were the owner

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that I would do that. Your
owner has a problem spending money as it

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is, one hundred and six million
dollars at a payroll that ranks twenty fourth

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in baseball. You think he's going
to just go, ah, here's what

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I'm doing. I'm going to say
so long and give them a seventy three

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million dollars for not playing. It's
not moneyball, Brad Pitt's not going no,

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Dave Justice. The Yankees are paying
half your salary to play against them.

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That's not happening, you guys,
And don't tell me you would do

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that if you were the owner,
because you wouldn't. It's seventy three million

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dollars, not seventy three dollars,
not seventy three hundred, not seventy three

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thousand, it's seventy three million.
Quick time out them back with a final

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hour of exces and bros. After
this, April showers brought May flowers and

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so much more to Soaring Eagle Casino
and Resorts. The winnings are in bloom

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every Friday in May for every hour
from three pm to eleven VM two.

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Lucky guess we'll have the chance to
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