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are live from the studios of WMNH
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New Hampshire. Jenny is here as
well at the news desk present account

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for yes and we have a great
band who has joined us in studio or

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most of the band is with us. Dark Rain is here. Hello,

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good morning, Hello, Hello,
welcome everybody actually here. We'll we'll start

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with you if you can tell us
who you are, what you do in

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the band. We'll kind of go
around and then we'll and then we'll hear

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you play. My name is Kelly. Everybody calls me gh while I'm on

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stage, and I am the biggest
diva out of the four of us at

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the moment. It's yeah, why
do they call you g H? It's

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the way I spell my name,
Kelly. It's k E L L E

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I g H. So they just
call me for sure. I gotcha,

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Okay, okay. And you,
sir, Yeah, I'm Dudley. I

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play guitar and I'm the other singer
in the band. I'll do a lot

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of the business end of stuff.
Founding member. Yeah, very good,

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very good, all good stuff.
And you, sir, and Brian.

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I play rhythm guitar, all right, and a little bit of backing vocals

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here and there. Very good,
very good. And uh. And we

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also have are you the manager?
Are you the Yeah? I do their

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road managing. My name is Echo. I go by Echo Ray the rock

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and Redhead. I do the stage
managing and I also do merch sales and

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promotion, booking, that sort of
stuff. Excellent, excellent. How long

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have you worked with Dark Ray Dark
Rain. I've been working with for just

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a few months now. We've we've
been friends for half a lifetime. Oh

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yeah, very good, very good. We should mention too. That track

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that we played playing with fire and
by the way, but you know,

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full disclosure, part of why I
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so it's good for the changeover when
you all are getting set up. It's

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a good, good, long song. But that is because I think I

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heard you say that was your favorite. It's one of my favorite, one

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of your favorite. I like that
too. I like all the tracks,

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all the studio tracks you sent me. But yeah, that one, that

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that is a that is great.
That is really really good. It punches

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in the face. Yeah, really
good stuff. But we're dying to hear

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you play live if you want to. Oh, we should mention too.

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So you're missing somebody right your base. Our bass players home sick. We

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figured we wouldn't bring the disease down
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He's recuperating for the show next week, gotcha go true? Yeah,

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we have an amazing show next week, so we want him to be up

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and ready to go up and ready
for that one. Where are you playing?

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We're playing at o'donna Hughes in Brunswick, Maine. It is a fundraiser

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that Echo has put on a letter
tell you a little bit more about it,

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But we just wanted to do something
for the survivors of that Lewiston mouse

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shooting. Yeah. We have a
couple of friends in the music field with

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us that have lost close loved ones
and it's just our way to hey,

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we're here for you. We got
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very cool, very very cool.
All right, Well, we're dying to

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hear you play. I'll kind of
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right, but we'll do we'll do
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the American Dream, which is when
we're currently promoting. This is a one

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of solo. Morecistically, it's called
the Shades of August. All right,

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dark Rain live in studio. She
left him with no choice. She gave

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of her time to other boys.
What did they was going on because we

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all know that he did nothing wrong
when I left down on your road,

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have no place to call your no
mom's no on your phone. Message is

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from the unknown. It's chid loggage
shits of argain will time on lever with

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a time nehver head. It's a
child logue, a slight shreds of argain.

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Ship didn't hurt so bad. She
now knows what she's lost. Now

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that she knows she's paid a cost, we know she can't come back again.

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Boy, remember every now and there
were not left down on your own,

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have a face to all your no
mother missed us on your phone a

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message just rounding your alone long as
she's of hocky will time ve wa a

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time my never s long. It's
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bad when you're left down on your
road and now that masted a broll your

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listen, it's from me. It's
a h long shades of U time.

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It's a shed fuck. It's just
like shades of augain. Ship's all day,

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very nice, dark rain. Live
in studio with us here on Matt

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Connorton Unleashed. We are live from
the studios of w m n H ninety

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five point three f M on this
Saturday morning. And uh, that that's

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I love that. That was awesome. The two of you singing together too,

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is really good. There's there's just
something really uh you just you sound

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really good besties. Yeah, you
guys really do. I mean that's the

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first thing that I noticed was your
harmony together is really beautiful. Thank you

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so much. Almost sound like one
voice. It'll be a new song that

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makes it, if that makes sense. Do you do that on a lot

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of songs where you trade off on
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pretty much a duality. But it's
like I call it, like the sweet

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and the melancholy. My voice is
not a natural singer with Kelly's got this

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beautiful, awesome, powerful voice,
but I think they blend well. Yeah,

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yeah, there's a contrast there that
there really works. How long has

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Dark Rain been around? How long
have you been a band? That question?

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So we started out Kelly and I
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where we we morphed from another band. It was called Strictly Business. We

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morphed into Dark Rain. Brian had
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it was myself, Kelly a drummer
front of ours, guitarist and a bass

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player obviously, and we were around
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ninety nine two thousand, did a
lot of shows, got pretty busy and

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we played played down a mass a
lot. We were doing getting kind of

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a good following and had a couple
of record deals on the table, and

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then Kelly got pregnant, you know, had a baby. Yeah, so

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they could kind of full this off
track and we're getting back. Then we

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went through some lineup changes and stuff. In about twenty eleven or twelve,

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I decided to kind of put the
band back together, so to speak,

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and all the original members came back
except for the bass player, and we

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were working our stuff and we've been
pretty much consistent since then. Brian came

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back. Our friend Ben Hursty who
had been an original member. He'd been

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over overseas for a while and he'd
come back and he joined up and eventually

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decided to leave again. And that's
when Brian came back to us, and

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we h we've been pretty much continuing
on since. We put out two three

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albums. Three albums right now,
ones out of print, but the two

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newer ones are there and We're working
on an acoustic album to be released sometime

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this next year before we do our
next big follow up. Yeah, and

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just keep pushing or playing your eye
out for the thirteenth step. Yeah,

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that's okay, that's that's gonna be
the name event. Okay, I'm horrible.

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I always steal the naming game,
and I told Kelly she could have

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this one. She's been pushing the
thirteenth step for a while. So yeah,

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like everything has a twelve step program, and I like to go above

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and beyond, So I think the
thirteenth step kind of fit for us.

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Yeah, I like it. I
like it. Now, that's not that

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exact. Now. These studio tracks? Are these from a current album that

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you have out now? The ones? They center from the American Dream.

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It's our current CD. Okay,
okay, yeah, the newest one.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
really like Uh, I really like these.

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Where where did you record home?
Yeah? In the the last last

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two c the last two CDs before
that, great guy up in Thompson,

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me and Jerry Paron owns a music
store and he owns music studio. We

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recorded with him and it sounded great. It's just I really have been working

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hard to learn the whole crafting of
recording and put myself together a studio at

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the house so's we had Dark Green
Studios. Now we record other artists as

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well. Oh excellent, and we
we've been slowly building that. And we

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did the whole CD from start to
finish, except for the mastering I brought

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back to Jerry so I could have
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Yeah, and I was pretty happy
with the result. I thought it came

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up pretty decent for doing it at
home. Yeah, it's amazing. You

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know, the stuff they used to
do back fifty years ago with like the

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Beatles and stuff, you can do
it at your home studio now. So

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yeah, yeah, that's something that
comes up a lot on the show.

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Is you know, you know,
we've got all these different options as far

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as how you record, and you
know, and there's there's still a ton

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of studios out there that you can
go to, or you can learn to

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do it yourself, or you can
learn to do it yourself at home and

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then bring another artists to record them. Do have you recorded a lot of

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artists? I'm just starting. I've
got a few and I'm still want to.

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I went back to going back to
school again too, So getting some

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more knowledge under my belt, and
I've taken a few in recently. I'm

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hoping to get more to come in
once we get to do. We're doing

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some remodel on the studio too,
so yeah, make it a little nicer.

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Yeah, excellent, excellent and uh
all right, so how did Echo,

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how did you come into this in
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Oh, I'm sorry, I'm having
an issue with your mike. Okay,

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here we go. I think I
got you. I was there, you

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are, so as I said,
I've been really good friends with these guys

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for the better part of twenty years
I think now, and just recently,

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over the spring and summer of this
past year, I decided that I was

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going to take the leap and work
professionally with musicians because nothing I love more

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than pushing local music. And you
know, we wouldn't have national bands if

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they didn't start somewhere. So I
go around and I scout out all these

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great bands and if they need help
selling their merch or if they need help

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push their their name around or whatever, and then I'll step in and do

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what I girl. Yeah, yeah, girl, yeah. So Dudley messaged

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me up like, we've got a
bunch of gigs and we could really help

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use somebody to help us with merch
And I don't think I've missed a gig

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since August. Everyone she's always ready
to go. I'm like, do you

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want to get up tomorrow morning if
you're ready to go by seven am and

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to go to the radio. She's
like, sure, I work nights.

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I don't get out of work until
almost two o'clock in the morning. For

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seven am is not my jam.
Yeah, Well, I do you want

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to play another song? I'd I'd
love to hear another live song if you're

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just joining us. We have Dark
Rain with us live in studio and they're

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going to play something for us.
So this one's off the American Dream as

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well. It's called It's kind of
Weird because we mostly a rock band.

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This is kind of a little bit
of a country slash, i'd say hip

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hop flavor with Brian's guitar line.
It's called stay with Me Tonight all right

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on the persis You and I was
covering enough All Loves, the middle of

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Your Time, when ging you all
and a way to make you mine Seeing

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to Night. Well, the Dancings
and Naked by the moon life. Hope

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you and my wealth is all right? Just ste just stay with me.

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Then you're dreading up blocking, Please, how's gonna read your bill? Who's

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gonna sell your mind? Go for
you're stealing welcome ass and naked by the

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day. Hope you and I shall
be a sorry st Just you have a

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thing an just stay away. You
can answers and make a body only my

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examp, all right, you stay
world, Just stay with the Oh that's

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awesome, awesome, Dark Dark Reign
is with us live in studio. I

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was thinking we could play another studio
track you had mentioned. Well, the

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name of the album is American Dream, and of course this title track is

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is really great too. I was
thinking maybe we could give this a listen

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and then we'll come back and talk
some more. What are you thinking?

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Alright, all right, check this
out. This is American Dream from the

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band Dark Bout my fears at the
time, the way in side but now

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dead stand out around your barricane as
what la or am about your domas what

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a bad boy right against the time? So a barricane? That's good.

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That is American Dream and the band
is a Dark Rain and we have them

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live in studio with us. How
how long was the drive for you all?

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Where are you located it? Because
about quarter two and a half hours?

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Oh my god, wow three and
a half for me, I live

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an hour away from the guys.
Wow. Well, we we really appreciate

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you being here today. That's that's
a haul. It wasn't so bad.

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I didn't crash it last Yeah,
I made it a little bit easier.

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Yeah, yeah, no, no, we appreciate you. Uh, we

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appreciate you being here. Now.
When when did the album come out?

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Has it been out for a while
or digitally it dropped? Did I want

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to say digitally and physically dropped different
times? But yeah, so like about

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a year now. We've been tour
behind it. Yeah, and we just

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started we like, we just started
releasing videos, like there's an official music

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video for the American Dream that you
just heard on YouTube. For Playing with

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Fire lyrics for Playing With No official
videos we have the one for American Dream,

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uh walking out of HG Double Hockey
Sticks Part two and uh you can

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say hell oh hell yeah, and
the song. All three of those are

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released so far. We're still working
on the other new one. It's their

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new My new Passion is doing the
music videos, so oh cool. Creative

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wise, do you do those?
Are you in charge of that? Yeah,

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I'm pretty much most of We're going
to get some pointers. Yeah,

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that's another That's another thing too.
You know, we were talking earlier about

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how we live in a time where
you have all these different options for recording

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also for making music videos, you
know, I mean you can you know,

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you can use an iPhone and record, or you can upscale from there.

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But it's it's amazing. It's funny
too because some people, people who

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don't know, some people have this
idea that the music videos are dead,

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you know, because MTV doesn't doesn't
do it anymore and whatnot and hasn't for

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decades actually now at this point,
or VH one. But uh but actually,

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really there's more music videos than ever
because of YouTube. I mean,

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some major artists who have you know, like a gazillion dollars will put out

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a video for I remember Beyonce did
that at one point. Like maybe this

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might have been like ten years ago, but she released an album and when

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the album came out, a video
for every single song. Oh yeah,

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it came out at the same time. It was like, wow, that

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must have been very expensive. But
yeah, I mean really, there's more

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music videos than ever. It's it's
uh, the more choices awhere to watch,

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just like with your viewing chiv choices, more stuff out there. Yeah,

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more content than ever, but also
yeah, you're you're competing with more.

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Yeah, it's not concentrated anywhere,
right right. I feel like with

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a video too, you can get
more context of where your artist is coming

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from. Everybody takes a song differently
as to like how the original artist wrote

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it and then you read you watch
the video or like, oh crap,

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that's what they were really talking about, but that's not how I related it

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to my life, right right,
So, I mean it's kind of cool

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to do it that way, and
that's kind of why I like doing the

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videos too. It gives them,
gives me a kind of a chance to

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add more to the interpretation of it. I'm good with people taking a song

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we write and making it their own
and what it means to them, you

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know, Like playing with Fire is
a good example. Like it's when we

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talk about a lot, it's you
know, for us, it's about you

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know, kind of like you get
two really really good friends, you know,

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do they take the step and cross
the line to make it more than

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just a friendship. And do you
mess that up? Do you play with

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because I can hurt you and you
can hurt me too, But I'm kind

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of willing to take that chance with
you because right, I like playing with

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fire. That's the song, Like, like I tell people from stage,

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playing taking the chance and playing with
fires better than being left out in the

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cold. Yeah. Yeah, if
you don't take the step, you don't

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know, you can miss out on
something good. Or maybe you're not.

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I mean I don't know, right, it could be crap. Only one

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way to find out, Yeah,
one way to got to take that step

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and just go with it, right, right, do you want to play

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another live song for us? Sure? We do something off the next CD,

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well do you? This is called
our public service announcement talking about the

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harmonies, and this is we always
tell people to worry about the breast cancer.

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My mother had breast cancer. I'm
a very strong advocate for women making

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you know, get get your exam, get checked men too as well,

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but very very very adamant on you
know, save the tatas. So that's

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my first and foremost uh public service
announcement. And you mentioned men too.

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That's something Jenny talks about a lot
of encouraging men to you know, I'm

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a breast cancer survivor. My mother's
too, congratulations. And and and we

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know someone who had well, actually
a couple of people had a couple of

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friends that are men who have had
breast cancer. Yeah, I mean they

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know, want to make friends.
The stage four right now, I get

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checked, get checked it. It
takes the pecks boys check the p I

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like that. Awesome. So that's
our serious public service announcement obviously. Then,

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so Kelly and I have both like
different recreational items. I personally like

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a good drink every once in a
while, so I'll call Yeah. And

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I like to smoke because it's legal
in our state, you know, not

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so legal here, I guess.
So this is this is a little diddy

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about about about both of those items. It's called Forty's. On the next

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s we have coming out all right, very good dark rain live in studio

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with us run down the road man, phoony in my hands. You're kind

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of heady. You tell me where
to go and got on my ass,

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send or something with this bag well
the grass, Yeah, trying to make

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a somewhere gong thing I can make
it have. I love this morning.

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I'm not breaking Many years I went
back, there's that Bucky you want you

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smiling here? Where are me?
Yeah? Uh willamen, miss n never

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even in my name? Yes,
in a hurry out of my way.

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Really years I went by. I
guess that is the trend was. Yeah,

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the more Fras gave me a party
outswer, they gave me a bag

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of breed. Here I go again, yea god again, play the same

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who I love it? Dark Rain, Dark Rain Live in the studio with

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us this morning on Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are live from the studios of

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w m n H ninety five point
three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester in New

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Hampshire. If you have any questions
or anything feedback input for the band,

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the studio line is open six oh
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Facebook live feed because Facebook is being
Facebook, but so we're we are strictly

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audio this morning, but uh,
but you can stream the show of course

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at w m n H Radio dot
orgon you can always go to my website

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Matt Connorton dot com. For all
your live streaming options and social media links

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and contact info and show archives,
et cetera, et cetera. But we

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are very happy to have Dark Rain
in studio with us. And do you

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guys, so, are you playing
a lot of shows these days? Are

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you planning out a lot or yeah? We played almost every week month,

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every weekend. It's part of our
part of our curse, we've been we've

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had a really hard time finding a
steady drummer. Yeah, because we'll get

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We'll get somebody on board. We've
gone through. We had we had a

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study drummer for years and years and
years, Chris Williams, the guy that

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was originally with us, great drummer, and uh, he eventually left,

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went to another band, and we
got another guy and he lest a little

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while, and we get another guy. He lasted for We won't go into

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that discussion, I guess, but
we is that the show we got a

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plastic one show I was talking about
that shall be named. But that sounds

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like a good story. It's a
lot of drama. But then we get

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another guy named Devin Mallard who was
really good and he actually did the American

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Dream City with us, and he
was good. He just you start having

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some some physical issues and stuff.
That's why he's not playing with us now.

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But so a lot of times we
actually use a digital drummer, which

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is a little weird, which is
really cool. Actually people like drummer and

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like, well, this is Scott
Free, He's our drummer. It's actual,

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it's not like a drum machine.
It's actual tracks that people have played

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and stuff and so, and sometimes
we do like a different some shows we

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have live drummer. Totally depends what
the situation is. So we keep getting

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a drummer in, we'll work them. We had a guy last time when

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we worked up three months, rehearsed, rehearse, rehearsed, and yeah,

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totally into this. I love to
play every week and I want to be

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out there. I want to be
playing, you know. Gave him a

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list of of upcoming shows and he's, I can't do that. There's too

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many. Wow really yeah yeah.
First he sitting there going, oh wow,

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I'm like, we told you this
from day one. It happens pretty

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regularly. So up front, like
if you're not one hundred percent and you

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don't want to do this, then
don't waste our time, please, because

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but so we had a group of
four of us that play out. We

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have different rummers that sit in with
us. Sonny Robinson from Twisted Roots,

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Yeah, we got from He's going
to be doing tracks on the next CD

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for us as well. And Christ's
in us pretty regularly off and on at

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least couple of times a year.
Just yeah. We have good friends to

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do it, but we would love
to find a permanent rummers. So somebody

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has to be able to play all
willing to play all the time. We

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travel all over New England. Yeah, we've gone as far as New York,

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but like we're really like you in
on Providence right now. We're doing

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a lot of shows in Rhode Island. We were down there last week.

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We work with a guy named Justin
mccott from Voltage. It's Voltage and he

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does he does a lot of the
shows that used to be the booker for

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and the Vault and stuff down in
Bedford. He's got us some good gigs

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and we're playing down there and you
know, playing Rhode Island and mass in

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New Hampshire, and we played up
here a little while ago. Excellent,

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yeah, excellent, love them oh
yeah too, yeah, absolutely absolutely,

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yeah, drummers. That's been a
topic on the show quite a bit.

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It seems like for one thing,
every drummer is in like ten bads.

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That's exactly. Yeah. And my
theory, uh, you know, people

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have heard me say this a million
times, but my theory about drummers is

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when you're a kid, when you're
growing up and you first start getting interested

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in playing an instrument, you got
to have the talk with your parents.

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I want to play drums. That's
the first instrument they were going to try

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to talk you out of. They
don't want to want all the boys,

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you know that or maybe the tuba
would would they would try to talk you

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out of that too. Probably I
got his little one playing the drums.

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Oh really Yeah. He's hooked on
music. Yeah, good, good,

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like even the oldies too, like
not just like current music. Like kid

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likes Elvis, Yeah, like Buck
Cherry. He likes Chuck Berry, Yeah,

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like all of them. He's he's
got an eclectic taste of music.

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He likes to sing kiss with us
too. Nice. We have a barbecue

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every year and he'll get up there
and he was singing, Oh god,

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who's like two up there singing kiss
with Annie? You know, get the

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little Ones in there. Yeah,
yeah, very good. My favorite band.

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Yeah really yeah, it's the Psycho
Circuit Store with Kiss Yeah yeah,

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excellent, excellent, Well we should
We'll play another studio track. Actually,

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the song Poison Inside I think is
really good. Should we play that one?

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That's a good one too. That
has to do with that situation we're

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talking about with the drummer and the
drama. Yea, yes, yeah.

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Is that the same drummer that didn't
want to play any shows or is that

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no? No, the drummer named
Oh god. It was such a rough

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It was a rough period for us. I literally had to beg my best

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day, like you are not leaving
music over this. This is like how

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bad that situation was made play a
show? It made him. I dragged

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his but oh, I can say, asked well all the way down where

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we're in New Hampshire, mask the
Lazy Dog and did a podcast with Jeff

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Royd's Yeah, Dudley did not want
to. I'm like, dude, we're

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going down, you bringing your guitar. I'm not letting you get out.

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We're going to have a last and
one day we lost like half the bands.

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One of those situations and it was
a bad situation all together personally.

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So yeah, we got a lot
of songs out of it. Though.

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00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:42,599
Well there you go, probably a
whole album worth of music that situation.

409
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,920
Well that's good, you know,
I always say, I mean, if

410
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,159
you can take bad things and create
something positive out of them, yeah,

411
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,440
come on the other side of it
better. So yeah, exactly, let's

412
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,519
give this a listen then, cool. So this is this is topical Poison

413
00:45:57,639 --> 00:47:21,400
Inside and the band is a Dark
Rain. Check this out s second,

414
00:47:28,039 --> 00:48:31,760
verybody can see happen. Then when
did you like that? Chi I gather

415
00:48:32,199 --> 00:49:39,039
my boy, this thing that everything
is there. The boy I never no

416
00:49:39,400 --> 00:50:08,360
Vodia. Let's say black I ever
no Boia. Let's say all right,

417
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:13,639
Poison Inside. The band is Dark
Rain. They are here with us,

418
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:16,199
live in studio. I just got
a long fade out. I like it.

419
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:21,159
That's kind of a lost art.
You don't hear long fade outs as

420
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,599
much as you used to, But
no, I dig it Dark Rain live

421
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:28,719
in studio with us. You all
want to play one more acoustic song and

422
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,920
then we'll, uh sure, and
then we'll talk a little bit more.

423
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,320
Plug what you got coming up,
and then we'll we'll end with We have

424
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,280
one more studio track too that we'll
play at the end. But so the

425
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,840
song that we're actually going to do
acoustically goes hand in hand with the one

426
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,639
that you want to play that's recorded. So this is I am a domestic

427
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,840
violence survivor, as I was telling
you on that little break, and I

428
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:54,719
decided to write a song about it
and kind of make the story like like,

429
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,679
don't keep it hidden, you know, like it the more that it's

430
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,679
brought out there, the more will
come for it and be like this is

431
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:06,840
not socially acceptable. So this is
my domestic violence story in a song,

432
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:52,119
This is never More. He came
out of nowhere like an angel performer.

433
00:51:52,480 --> 00:52:00,199
He was a mystery, but the
devil dingers guys like me like a miestro.

434
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:09,639
And I was locked inside my mind, perched like a ray van never

435
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:34,960
mobly be mine, never more.
Side of sack, beside this may he

436
00:52:35,280 --> 00:53:07,239
man Bede Jane s alive. I
can see you right through you before the

437
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:15,639
lies brull out your mouth. Beware
of casting stones when you live in a

438
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:22,199
glasshouse. Through all of your trauma, you blacken my tell tale heart.

439
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:29,800
I never felt so well day.
Wish we could go back to the store

440
00:53:30,760 --> 00:54:16,239
forget that never more side, sick
inside, describe them snap by. If

441
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:22,360
you haven't learned by then this is
the point. I'm blooding it. Broke

442
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:31,559
can absolutely crawled out of that grave. I was dumbing mdam and love could

443
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:38,519
not be saved. So I patched
up my wings and I'm learning how to

444
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:51,000
fly. They like Grave bad.
I'm gonna pluck out the whole guy forever

445
00:54:51,599 --> 00:55:29,360
Mo sick inside this Bye bye bye
hie ye. All right, that was

446
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,119
awesome. Yeah, yeah, well
done, well done. Dark Rain live

447
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,840
in studio with us, and uh, I know that we should mention too,

448
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,519
and Echo was reminding us about,
uh, let me get that mic

449
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:45,199
up there. We've got or you've
got shows. Well, there's there's a

450
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,599
really big one we're talking about.
Is that what you were referring to?

451
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,360
Okay, This Friday, This upcoming
Friday night, December the twenty second,

452
00:55:53,440 --> 00:56:00,039
we're having the Women of Rock support
Lewiston Strong hashtag Lewiston Strong. I've pulled

453
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:06,400
together for amazing bands with some rock
and women in them. We have Dark

454
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,880
Rain will be headlining the night.
We're also going to have Diamond's Edge,

455
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:16,079
which is actually a New Hampshire local
Seattle new grunge band is. We're going

456
00:56:16,159 --> 00:56:22,280
to be having them that features Breezy
from Signal to Noise and then she is

457
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:28,360
Amazing. We love Breezy and then
we also have Drunken Public performing as well.

458
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:31,199
There is a small five dollars cover
charge, but all of the proceeds

459
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:37,960
are going straight to the Lewis and
Strong victims. So we're going to be

460
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,559
doing some raffles as well. We
want to put a shout out to Jerry

461
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:44,719
Paron again. He's going to be
donating a gift card and we'll also have

462
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,480
a basket with some band merch in
it so you can get your band merch

463
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:52,519
on and support those local bands.
Uh. Doors at seven, music starts

464
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:57,119
at eight o'clock and it's gonna be
a really good time. Hughes in Brunswick,

465
00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:01,559
me O Donna Hughes and Brunswick,
Miss Pleasant Street. If you guys

466
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:06,800
have nothing better to do on what
is it Friday night? Echo on a

467
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,159
Friday night, take a drive they
come see us. It's gonna be such

468
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,760
a great night, it really is. Finish the Christmas shopping and come on

469
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,199
down there you go, there you
go, and uh, what should people

470
00:57:19,199 --> 00:57:22,199
know about where to find you online. People want to follow everything that you're

471
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:25,280
doing. Get your music et ceara, dark rainband dot com. Okay,

472
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,760
in Dark Rain dot us. Oh, that's our YouTube channel. You can

473
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:37,800
find us on YouTube obviously, Spotify, Apple Music, Google, Amazon Music.

474
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,559
Yeah, yeah, pretty much anywhere, shiz am friend any of us.

475
00:57:42,639 --> 00:57:45,760
We like people, Yeah, excellent, excellent. Like the band page

476
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,960
on Facebook. Yeah, Dark Echo
Ray the Rock and Redhead on Facebook or

477
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:52,480
just Echo Ray also on Facebook.
Okay, very good, very good.

478
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:57,400
Well, thank you so much.
This has been wonderful. We're gonna play

479
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:01,039
one more studio track to close out
the seg and then Jenny and I will

480
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:04,280
be back. Of course, in
the third hour. We have Eric Pilcher's

481
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,679
classic film review coming up. And
but this is another great song from Dark

482
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:13,039
Rain. This is called Skit and
this this relates to the song you just

483
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:15,880
played, right it does. The
chorus literally talks about you know, I'm

484
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,920
tired of playing the games. This
is not a role in my life that

485
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,800
I want to play with you.
Yeah. It's almost like the precursor to

486
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,000
the other song, because this is
when Kelly and I are both going through

487
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:30,079
really bad parts of bad situations and
I don't want to do this, but

488
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:36,119
I want. I'm still here,
you know, stuck in that. How

489
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:38,280
do I get out of it before
it turns into you know, the Nevermore

490
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,920
song? So okay, it started
out with Skit and then went into Nevermore,

491
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:46,559
So it was like a precursor.
Okay, okay, very cool.

492
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,800
Oh and thank you for the CDs. By the way, I should mention,

493
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:52,880
yeah, we're not on Facebook today
so I can't hold them up for

494
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,360
everybody, but The American dream and
The Long Road Home. This came out

495
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,639
before The American Dreamer. Yeah,
that's our last CD. That's seventeen tracks

496
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,079
almost like yeah, yeah, you
can buy them digitally, Like I said,

497
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,800
you know any of the digital retailers
Apple Music, Yeah, yeah,

498
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,320
are always We always prefer that kind
of stuff over Spotify. Spotify is great

499
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,480
to get known, but we actually
make money off those if they buy him

500
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:19,480
somewhere or at a local show.
Yeah yeah, support to local musicians.

501
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,440
Know, absolutely not as easy as
everyone thinks it is. No, No,

502
00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:27,960
that's that's for sure. That's for
sure. Dark Reign thank you all

503
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,800
again so much. This has been
Thank you for having us absolutely and this

504
00:59:31,000 --> 01:01:24,360
is called Skit the Bass. Sorry, like my back, my back,

505
01:01:25,199 --> 01:02:30,880
my back, I'll stop and I
played a boy. I can't go Leven

506
01:02:30,760 --> 01:03:36,440
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FARMA for advance right is ready as
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538
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hopposting my crops. Imagine where you
will be and a movie. So hold

539
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the Lord, stay with me.
You find yourself alone, riding in green

540
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fields with a sun on your face. Do not be trouble. Oh you

541
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are an elysium and you're already died. Brothers, what were doing? Live?

542
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Echo's and autonogy epics have been as
much of a constant in cinema as

543
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:15,279
hot, fresh, buttered popcorn.
These films are lengthy in nature, wide

544
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:23,920
awe inspiring sets, fight scenes,
and special effects, coupled with dynamite performances

545
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:30,279
to tell a story that spans time
and leaves an undeniable impact on the viewer.

546
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:35,840
As synonymous as popcorn is to film, one genre of film is synonymous

547
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:43,720
with epics. That is the quote
unquote sand in sandal films or films about

548
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,840
ancient Rome in this week's film is
one of the best ever released in two

549
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:57,960
thousand. Directed by Ridley Scott,
Gladiator introduces us to Roman General Maximus Deretus

550
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:05,359
Meridius Russell Crowe in his breakthrough Academy
Award winning performance, who is selected by

551
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:12,800
Marcus Aurelius Western film legend Richard Harris
in one of his final roles, to

552
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,680
succeed him. However, those plans
are thwarted by his son Comedists played by

553
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:25,399
Joaquin Phoenix, who murders him and
kills Maximus's family and sets Maximus through the

554
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:32,880
path of slavery in being a colisseum
Gladiator. However, Maximus' popularity grows and

555
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:39,840
it leads him with the chance to
avenge the death of his family and emperor

556
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:45,880
in a final climactic battle with Comedists. In our introductory clip, we hear

557
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:53,000
the great General Maximus rally his troops
before a battle shortly after the film begins.

558
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,880
Our next clips show Marcus Aurelius with
both men. First. With Maxim,

559
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:05,960
we hear the tender care and honesty
he has with Maximus. This hearkens

560
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:13,439
to a father and son like relationship
that two have. We will then see

561
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:18,960
his interaction with his own son Comedists, where Marcus admits his failures as a

562
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:26,800
father. As he tells Commodists he
is being bypassed as successor, is giving

563
01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:31,039
this role to Maximus. We hear
the pain of regret. It was so

564
01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:39,239
fragile, and I fear that it
will not survive the winter. Maximus,

565
01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:45,960
let us whisper. Now together,
you and I. You have a son.

566
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:59,039
Tell me about your home. My
house is in the hills above Tahila,

567
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:06,560
very simple place. Pink stones are
warm in the sun, kitchen garden

568
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:14,000
smells of herbs in the day,
jasmine in the evening. Through the gators,

569
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:19,239
a giant poplar, figs, apples, pears, who soil Marcus black

570
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:25,319
black like that my wife's here grapes
on the south slopes alas on the north.

571
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,159
While ponies plain him else they teach
my son. He wants to be

572
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:31,239
one of them. Remember the last
time you were two years two hundred and

573
01:11:31,279 --> 01:11:38,159
sixty four days, and this morning
I envy you, Maximus. It was

574
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:46,960
a good home worth fighting for.
There is one more duty that I asked

575
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:51,800
of you before you go home.
What would you have me do, Susan.

576
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,119
I want you to become the protector
of Rome. After I die,

577
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,960
I will empower you to one end
alone, to give power back to the

578
01:12:03,039 --> 01:12:15,079
people of Rome and end the corruption
that has crippled it. You accept this

579
01:12:15,239 --> 01:12:23,920
great honor that I have offered you
with all my heart. Now, Maximo,

580
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:30,159
that is why it must be you. But surely a prefect, a

581
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:32,279
senator, somebody who knows the city, who understands her politics. But you

582
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:43,520
have not been corrupted by our politics. And Commoduce Commodus is not a moral

583
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,199
man. You have known that since
you were young. Commodus cannot rule.

584
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:59,880
He must not rule. You're the
son that I should have had. Commodcell

585
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:06,680
except my decision. He knows that
you command the loyalty of the army.

586
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:17,560
I need some time, so by
sunset I hope you will have agreed.

587
01:13:19,039 --> 01:13:27,399
Now embrace me as my son,
and bring an old man another blanket.

588
01:13:30,279 --> 01:13:35,680
And now, Marcus in Commondas,
are you ready to do your duty for

589
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:47,760
Rome? Yes, father, you
will not be emperor, which why the

590
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,880
old the man is to take my
place. My pause will pass to Maximus

591
01:13:54,119 --> 01:14:00,239
to hold in trust until the Senate
is ready to rule once more. Rome

592
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:15,560
is to be a republic again.
Acts. Yes, my decision disappoints you.

593
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:29,439
He wrote to me once, listing
the forty virtues wisdom, justice,

594
01:14:30,399 --> 01:14:36,199
fortitude, and temperance. As I
read the list, I knew I had

595
01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:45,079
none of them, But I have
other virtues for them. Ambition that can

596
01:14:45,159 --> 01:14:51,399
be a virtue when it drives us
to excel, Resourceful, his courage,

597
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:59,800
perhaps not on the battlefield, but
that are many forms of courage, devotion

598
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:08,039
to my family, to you.
But none of my virtues won your list.

599
01:15:11,159 --> 01:15:13,359
Even then, it was as if
you didn't want me for your son.

600
01:15:14,359 --> 01:15:21,479
Commonness, you go too far.
That's the faces of the god for

601
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:28,520
waste. Please, if you are
to make you proud, one kind word,

602
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:35,199
one fuck where you best mean your
chest an help me tight? It

603
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:42,479
would have been like the sun of
my heart for thousand years. What is

604
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:48,439
this gonna mean? You hate so
much? All I have wanted was to

605
01:15:48,560 --> 01:16:03,239
the fty Caesar father, commodness.
You are false as a son. Is

606
01:16:03,399 --> 01:16:41,399
my failure as a father? F
I would put to the whole world to

607
01:16:41,560 --> 01:17:11,680
you, what don't Rea love me? I mentioned at the beginning of this

608
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:19,039
review that these epic films almost always
have amazing performances, and this film is

609
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:24,439
certainly not an exception. As a
matter of fact, it could be viewed

610
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:33,439
as the standard the aforementioned performance of
pro Nonwithstanding, Joaquin Phoenix used his performance

611
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:40,439
in this film to shoot into the
upper tier of Hollywood actors, a spot

612
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:45,359
he has not seeded since. Our
next scene shows the bevy of emotions he

613
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:53,520
brought into this role. Lost,
jealousy, anger, pride, deception,

614
01:17:54,359 --> 01:18:01,600
deceit, greed, callousness, they're
all here. In the first part of

615
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:06,560
the scene, Communist confronts his sister, who he has lusted over, and

616
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:14,680
callously explains how he is taking her
son Lucius away from her. Then,

617
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,640
before his climactic fight with Maximus,
he confronts him as he is tied to

618
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:26,039
a post, and in a brief
moment, we are teased with a possible

619
01:18:26,319 --> 01:18:32,239
love he may have for Maximus,
but that changes as he coldly stabs him

620
01:18:32,279 --> 01:18:38,880
in the kidneys, debilitating him for
their final battle, and demands that the

621
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:51,960
wounds be covered by armor for their
climactic showdown. Thanks donephew. What if

622
01:18:53,000 --> 01:19:00,560
his mother? Should they share love
us fate? Should that be messiful?

623
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:13,319
Commit us? The messful Lucius will
stay with me now, and if your

624
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:23,319
mother so much as looks at him
and the manner that displeases me, you

625
01:19:23,359 --> 01:19:35,560
will die. She decides to be
know and takes her owners, he will

626
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:47,560
die. As for you. You
will love me. That's I love to

627
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:55,720
you. You will provide me with
an air of pure blood, so that

628
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:19,079
Commodus and this colty will prove hlosity. Am I not my sphone? I'm

629
01:20:19,319 --> 01:21:10,680
not hustlephone and a son I obey. Nothing happens to anyone that he is

630
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:50,680
not fitted by nature to bear as
they called for you. The general who

631
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:59,560
became a slave, the slave who
became a gladiator, the gladiator defied and

632
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:06,279
not striking story. Now that people
want to know how the story ends,

633
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:17,199
only a famous death will do what
could be more glorious than to challenge the

634
01:22:17,239 --> 01:22:25,479
Emperor himself in the Great Arena.
You would fight me? Why not?

635
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:31,000
Do you think I'm afraid? I
think you've been afraid all your life,

636
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:42,399
unlike Maximus the Invincible, who knows
no fear, And you're a man who,

637
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,640
once her death, smiles at us. All all a man can do

638
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:53,439
is smile back. I wonder did
your friend spire at his own death.

639
01:22:54,880 --> 01:23:04,640
You must know you're to your father. You loved my father. I know,

640
01:23:08,079 --> 01:23:12,640
but so did I. That makes
us by this, doesn't it?

641
01:23:15,079 --> 01:23:41,279
Smile for me? Now? Stop
on his arm Concealed Route. In two

642
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:46,960
thousand, this film took Hollywood by
storm. It was released on May fifth

643
01:23:47,079 --> 01:23:53,279
of two thousand, right around the
time for summer blockbusters, but it not

644
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:59,319
a normal time for films looking for
Academy Awards or other year end awards.

645
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,960
At the box office, it rked
in seven point seven billion dollars worldwide.

646
01:24:06,319 --> 01:24:14,600
It re emphasized the importance of summer
blockbusters, and many experts have stated it's

647
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:20,119
say the fledgling DreamWorks studio at the
time. After winning the Golden Globe for

648
01:24:20,319 --> 01:24:28,479
Best Motion Picture Drama, it was
nominated twelve Academy Awards. It won five,

649
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:34,079
including Best Picture in a Major Upset
and Best Actor again for Crow.

650
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:41,680
It was nominated for others, including
Best Director for Ridley Scott and Best Supporting

651
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:46,920
Actor for Joaquin Phoenix. In regards
to epics, this film checks all the

652
01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:57,960
boxes. Operatic esque soundtrack, on
inspiring cinematography, mesmerizing performances, compelling story

653
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:04,399
and why spanning shots that blow the
viewer away. This film is one of

654
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:11,439
the sand In Sandals epics that should
be and must be joy by all.

655
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,239
I hope you join me next week
when for our final review appear, and

656
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:21,800
in honor of Christmas, we will
look at a young boy's quest to procure

657
01:25:23,039 --> 01:25:30,079
a red rider go in nineteen or
film a Christmas story of reminding kind of

658
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:47,199
ten. This has been possibilm your
you are listening to wumin you come in,

659
01:25:47,960 --> 01:26:28,319
don't get so greenly mad South.
Welcome back everybody as we cruise into

660
01:26:28,359 --> 01:26:32,439
our final segment this week on Matt
Connorton Unleashed, we are live from the

661
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:39,560
studios of wm NH ninety five point
three FM, inglorious Downtown Manchester New I'm

662
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,119
sure Jenny is here as well at
the news desk presenton account of farm.

663
01:26:43,359 --> 01:26:45,840
Yes yes, and by the way, so today on the show, of

664
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:49,439
course, first hour we had Tom
Russo here, and then second hour into

665
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:54,760
a little bit of the third hour
we had a dark rain joining us live

666
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,479
in studio, and then we had
of course Eric Pilterri's classic film review.

667
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:02,520
Another great review this week of the
the your two thousand film Gladiator starring Russell

668
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,199
Crowe. If you are wondering if
you saw on social media we were supposed

669
01:27:06,199 --> 01:27:12,039
to have another band coming in,
Vices Inc. From Maine, about one

670
01:27:12,079 --> 01:27:15,560
of the band members is sick,
so they had to stay behind. They

671
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,560
will reschedule certainly. Although I was
saying to Jenny off air, it kind

672
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,520
of worked out in a way because
I had no idea. We actually we

673
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,119
talked about it on the way over, but I didn't realize just how far

674
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,319
dark Rain traveled to get here.
So it was actually it worked out that,

675
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,720
you know, I mean, sorry
we to not be able to have

676
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,800
Vices Inc. On the show today, but it did work out in one

677
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:41,960
sense because what I realized, but
I realized how far dark Rain had traveled

678
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,359
to be here, you know,
because we interview obviously, we interview a

679
01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:47,880
lot of artists from the area,
but we also interview artists from far away,

680
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:53,520
sometimes from other continents, but they
usually skype in. So to have

681
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,720
dark Rain travel all that way to
get here, it worked out that we

682
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,239
were able to at least spend a
little bit more time with them, more

683
01:28:00,279 --> 01:28:02,039
fun to have in studio. I
look forward to them coming back. Yeah,

684
01:28:02,119 --> 01:28:05,960
yeah, really, really great.
So I enjoyed that quite a bit.

685
01:28:08,119 --> 01:28:11,600
I do want to mention And we
talked about this a little bit last

686
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,720
night too on Retrospectrum Radio with pol
C, but I just wanted to acknowledge

687
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:20,479
it again today here on this show. For longtime listeners, whether you're a

688
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:26,399
regular listener of this program or the
Morning Show with Peter White, you're probably

689
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,439
familiar with Shannon Shannon die On from
right here in Manchester. She was a

690
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:36,439
very loyal listener. She called both
shows on a regular basis. The other

691
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,279
other show here at the station that
really takes live calls is Off the Mark

692
01:28:40,319 --> 01:28:43,319
Sports with Kyle Heavy, But I
don't think Shannon was a sports fan,

693
01:28:43,399 --> 01:28:46,760
so she probably didn't call that show. But we found out, well,

694
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,319
it was a couple of days ago, a few days ago now Shannon passed

695
01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:55,399
away. So I just wanted to
say, you know, condolences to the

696
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,520
family and you know, any loved
ones that she had in the area.

697
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,800
I don't I don't really know.
I will miss hearing her voice, yeah,

698
01:29:01,079 --> 01:29:05,159
will Yeah, I don't really know
much about uh, you know,

699
01:29:05,239 --> 01:29:11,319
who she had around here for for
family and friends. But but yeah,

700
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:16,760
the thing that the thing that I
always appreciated about Shannon was her sense of

701
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,680
humor. Was such that you know, she was willing to uh, you

702
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:25,560
know, let's let's be honest.
Sometimes the calls could be a little strange,

703
01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:30,920
but my sense of humor being what
it is, I tended to want

704
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,960
to kind of lean into that and
and make things even stranger. And we

705
01:29:34,079 --> 01:29:40,680
had some very strange conversations on the
air, Shannon and I did. But

706
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,680
you know, but I could kind
of, you know, pick on her

707
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,479
a little bit and and take it
in different directions. And she was always

708
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,760
willing to go for the ride,
you know what I mean. She she

709
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:55,800
loved me, so she did,
yes, oh, absolutely, no,

710
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,479
she had a but she had a
really good sense of humor that way,

711
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,479
you know, And and you know
we we pick on her, never with

712
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,279
malice, of course, always with
affection, and uh, I think she

713
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:08,600
understood that and and she she had
a really good sense of humor about it.

714
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:14,600
So so uh, the obituary online
just said a sudden illness. So

715
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,039
don't don't really know any details beyond
that, of course, but anyway,

716
01:30:17,039 --> 01:30:20,640
I just wanted to acknowledge that and
the passing of our friend Shannon. She

717
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:26,640
will be messed absolutely absolutely. We
do have a little bit of time left

718
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,119
on today's show not much, but
the studio line is open six oh three

719
01:30:30,199 --> 01:30:32,520
two five oh sixho seven if you
would like to join us six oh three

720
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,279
two five six oh seven. I'm
sorry we're not on Facebook today. Facebook

721
01:30:36,359 --> 01:30:40,680
is being glitchy. As far as
I can tell, It's not not anything

722
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:44,000
internally here at the studio. Technology
wise, it seems to be. I

723
01:30:44,079 --> 01:30:48,520
think it's an issue with Facebook because
Facebook is being Facebook and Facebook does glitch

724
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,600
on occasions, so we're not able
to stream live on Facebook. But if

725
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:56,239
you're of course, you can listen
to us on ninety five point three FM

726
01:30:56,319 --> 01:30:59,079
locally in Manchester, and of course
you can access us from anywhere in the

727
01:30:59,119 --> 01:31:02,720
world online. I hope that Eric's
listening. I want to say thank you

728
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:09,079
to your film review for last week
for the Bronxtail. Yes, I watched

729
01:31:09,119 --> 01:31:12,640
it and I really enjoyed it a
lot, and I would not have done

730
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,399
so if not for the film review. So that's right, big shout out

731
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,159
thank you to Eric. Keep doing
those reviews. We love them. And

732
01:31:17,279 --> 01:31:20,319
there's actually been a number of different
movies along the way that I've watched only

733
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:26,000
because of the review, absolutely being
one of them. Bronxtail was definitely good.

734
01:31:26,199 --> 01:31:29,079
Yes, yes, we have a
call. Hi. Welcome to Matt

735
01:31:29,119 --> 01:31:33,159
Connorton Unleashed. Who's this Hi Matt
Gary. Hey Gary, you haven't heard

736
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:35,479
from you in a while. How
are you doing? Yeah? I know

737
01:31:36,039 --> 01:31:42,640
life, Yeah, all right,
Yeah, I'm doing good. I just

738
01:31:43,039 --> 01:31:45,560
you know, Hi, Jenny,
my love, Hi sweetie. What are

739
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:53,359
you doing today? I'm relaxing.
I clean my house and everything and I'll

740
01:31:53,399 --> 01:31:58,439
go outside because it's beautiful and get
some sun. Yeah it's yeah. I

741
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,520
just want to Yeah, I just
want to say my condolences too to Shannon's

742
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:08,920
family. And you know, she
was she was, she was fun to

743
01:32:09,039 --> 01:32:12,560
listen to. Yeah, she kind
of became a character, you know,

744
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,479
on the shows on both Oh yeah, she had a character on both in

745
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:21,680
the morning shows and rest her soul. Yeah, and you know, if

746
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:26,239
it was things you know, we
do. There are people out there to

747
01:32:26,319 --> 01:32:29,960
help you. And I think she
just wanted to call in and have a

748
01:32:30,079 --> 01:32:34,119
friend. Yeah, yeah, absolutely
so. But yeah, but no,

749
01:32:35,039 --> 01:32:41,359
things are going pretty good. I
lost I lost ten more pounds, so

750
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,600
oh, good for you. Excellent
and just yeah, I hadn't been able

751
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:50,279
to call for a while. I've
been busy with other things. And and

752
01:32:50,359 --> 01:32:55,880
then Uh, yeah, I figured
out Saturdays. I said, well,

753
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,880
hey, i'll give Matt and Jenny
Paul you know they'll be together. Yeah,

754
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,399
here we are. Ye. Yeah. Well, I just wanted to

755
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:11,920
wish you guys. Uh, Jenny, I've belated happy honka. Oh,

756
01:33:12,039 --> 01:33:16,079
thank you, thank you very much. And yeah, and then just wish

757
01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:24,520
you guys happy holidays and have you
know, have some some good times and

758
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,439
uh, a brand new year next
year with a new place to be at

759
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,560
and everything. I drove by there
out with a friend of mine and it

760
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:35,920
looks really amazing with the big letters
out there, and you know, and

761
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:42,439
looks like it's going to be really
awesome there. Yeah, absolutely won't be

762
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:47,000
a secret studio anymore. That's right, That's right. No, I just

763
01:33:47,039 --> 01:33:49,439
want to see how you guys are
doing. And so yeah, I'm doing

764
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:56,600
pretty good, good, awesome,
and yeah, I just I miss you

765
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:59,880
guys during the week, and but
I get busy during the week now.

766
01:34:00,039 --> 01:34:03,479
I try to do a lot of
things and get myself prepared for the winter

767
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:11,640
because you know, we won't be
able to do very much and just been

768
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,560
around and everything on. I did
I did lose a I did lose a

769
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:19,000
friend Michelle to cancer this year,
and it was kind of hard. Yeah,

770
01:34:19,159 --> 01:34:24,359
she was my shoes. She was
my neighbor from where I used to

771
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:28,119
live, and she we were real
good friends. And I loved that lady

772
01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:31,760
to death. She was so she
was so great and sweet. But she's

773
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,880
in a far better place and no
more hurting. No more hurting. She

774
01:34:36,279 --> 01:34:43,800
h Yeah, she had. When
I saw her, it ripped right through

775
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:48,800
her pancreatic cancer. I just ripped
right through her. And I didn't want

776
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:53,279
to see I didn't want to see
her the last day and I had called.

777
01:34:53,319 --> 01:34:57,640
I kept calling for her, and
her and her son called got her

778
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,600
phone number and said that she went
into the hospital and but she died peacefully

779
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,640
with her family around her. And
I said, well that was good.

780
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:09,560
And then I went to a celebration
of life for her and we sat around

781
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:13,119
the table cried and said funny stories
about her. So it was good.

782
01:35:14,399 --> 01:35:17,039
And they even brought her corn She
she loved playing corn hole, so they

783
01:35:17,119 --> 01:35:21,279
brought her a cornhole. A lot
accessories there and the and the kids would

784
01:35:21,319 --> 01:35:26,199
play and everybody was you know,
so it was it was a great celebration

785
01:35:26,319 --> 01:35:30,600
of life, you know. And
that's what I that's what I like you

786
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,239
know, to do you know,
you go to funerals and everybody sits there.

787
01:35:33,239 --> 01:35:36,399
Oh yeah, blah blah blah,
and you gotta wear the big suits

788
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:41,760
and everything there. It was just
totally awesome. It's just totally awesome and

789
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,720
it was great. But yeah,
so Jenny, how are you doing.

790
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:53,199
I am good. I am doing
very well, thank you. Feeling good?

791
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,960
Yes, I am upright, which
is always good. Oh yeah,

792
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,119
I have Yeah, I have ups
and downs. I have day he's your

793
01:36:01,159 --> 01:36:06,960
body just doesn't want to work,
and you know, but a little icy

794
01:36:08,079 --> 01:36:13,640
hot, a little icy hot,
and I'm on my way. All right,

795
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:15,840
Gary, All right, Well,
I know you just don't have a

796
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:17,800
few minutes. But I just wanted
to call in and say, you know,

797
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:24,279
I'm still here and you know,
still listen to a lot of music

798
01:36:24,399 --> 01:36:27,279
stuff and I like to listen to
the people you got on there, so

799
01:36:28,199 --> 01:36:32,239
but appreciate that. I just wanted
to send my my condolences out to her

800
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:39,239
her family, and you know,
things things get you know, you're you

801
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:47,720
just get overwhelmed and I can't understand
sometimes but away from this stupid world and

802
01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:51,880
and all the things. So but
both of you, you know how much

803
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:57,520
I love you both, so a
big, a big hug through the through

804
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:01,640
the phone and I have a great
have a great holidays. Bye, thank

805
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,199
you Gary, bye bye. All
right, very nice. Yeah, we

806
01:37:04,199 --> 01:37:08,079
haven't heard from Gary in a long
time, in a long time. If

807
01:37:08,079 --> 01:37:10,039
you'd like to get in with a
quick call, we do have a few

808
01:37:10,039 --> 01:37:13,279
minutes left. Six O three two
five six O seven is a studio line

809
01:37:13,319 --> 01:37:18,720
six O three two five six seven. We did attend an event yesterday at

810
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:27,119
the Mosaic Art Collective above the Palace
Theater about AI and very interesting a lot

811
01:37:27,159 --> 01:37:31,560
of it talking about using chat,
GPT and UH, which which I'm a

812
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,600
proponent of. You can do some
cool things with it. And now what

813
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:41,840
was the part that they used to
do pictures dot or dash. Oh there's

814
01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:45,680
Dolly three, Dolly three, I
can hold on to that one. I

815
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,720
was yeah, I was particularly well
because you know, part of what a

816
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:54,279
big part of what the presentation was
about was using AAR and AI in art

817
01:37:55,199 --> 01:38:00,720
visual art, and I had used
Dolly three recently uh on YouTube for when

818
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:05,520
I when I posted the uh I
posted on YouTube. UH. The segment

819
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,680
that we did where we talked about
the Daryl Hall versus John Oates lawsuit,

820
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:14,359
and I had actually used Dolly three
and it was I talked about this a

821
01:38:14,399 --> 01:38:16,079
little bit at the presentation when we
were at the end and we were just

822
01:38:16,199 --> 01:38:19,079
kind of chatting, and I said
that, you know, I had asked

823
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:23,279
because there's there are some things you
can ask it to do in terms of

824
01:38:23,319 --> 01:38:27,279
creating visual images that it won't do. It'll it'll give you a hard time.

825
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,359
And I talked about how I tried
to get it to create an image

826
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:36,439
of Daryl Hall versus John Oates in
a boxing ring having a boxing match,

827
01:38:38,039 --> 01:38:41,920
and the presenter of his name escapes
me. Do you remember his name?

828
01:38:42,399 --> 01:38:45,279
No, it was it was someone
we hadn't met before. But he was

829
01:38:45,319 --> 01:38:51,720
talking about how it seems like it
doesn't it it's resistant to creating images of

830
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:57,680
celebrities and certain types of situations,
like anything involving violence. Because I said,

831
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,760
yeah, the best I could do
with it, I couldn't get it

832
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:04,000
to create an image of Hall and
Oates boxing each other. The best I

833
01:39:04,079 --> 01:39:08,039
could do was I got it to
create an image of the two of them

834
01:39:08,359 --> 01:39:12,680
at a chess board staring angrily at
each other over a game of chess.

835
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,319
And that's that's really the best I
could do, and that's the image if

836
01:39:15,319 --> 01:39:18,840
you look at the thumbnail on YouTube, that's that's the best I could do

837
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,359
with it in terms of what I
could get it to do. So you

838
01:39:21,399 --> 01:39:26,279
know, it does have certain limitations, but it was a very interesting presentation.

839
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:30,439
Absolutely was actually if you go to
the Mosaic Art Collective Facebook page,

840
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,359
the presentation has been posted up there
so you can take a look at it.

841
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:41,039
He did an excellent job of really
breaking down the different components and having

842
01:39:41,079 --> 01:39:44,279
a really good conversation, Like we
were talking about, you know, how

843
01:39:44,359 --> 01:39:47,920
far, what should it be used, what is okay? And is still

844
01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:53,640
art? What isn't okay? And
do you consider it art if it's computer

845
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:59,840
generated but it's your designs. Like
one of the things he talked about was

846
01:40:00,319 --> 01:40:04,720
music, and that he fed the
machine seventy seven songs that he had written

847
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:10,600
and then asked it to write a
song with certain parameters in his style,

848
01:40:12,039 --> 01:40:15,399
to which it did and he actually
performed it for us and you can see

849
01:40:15,399 --> 01:40:19,880
that there on the video which is
on the Mosaic Our Collective's Facebook page,

850
01:40:21,039 --> 01:40:25,000
which if you did didn't know that
existed, I didn't either, Little alone

851
01:40:25,079 --> 01:40:29,680
secret and it's absolutely awesome to go
up there. They have incredible art pieces.

852
01:40:30,079 --> 01:40:33,399
There's always something showing there, and
there are some artists workshops in there

853
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:39,720
as well as that not workshops,
they're studios, some artists have some studios.

854
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:43,640
Is located at sixty six Hanover Street, Suite two one, right here

855
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:48,039
in the Queen's City and you can
see the Mosaic Artcollective dot com as well

856
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:51,840
for more information on them. But
they have a lot of incredible pieces and

857
01:40:53,039 --> 01:40:58,760
this presentation was definitely eye opening in
that I don't know, It's like where,

858
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,079
how far will it go? And
what is okay? What isn't okay?

859
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:08,640
Is it okay for an artist to
use a computer or not, whether

860
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:14,680
it's an image or a writing,
Yeah, it's questionable. And uh,

861
01:41:15,079 --> 01:41:18,279
they're going to be here on January
sixth, which actually will be our last

862
01:41:18,279 --> 01:41:23,039
show in the studio before the big
move. That's right for the big move.

863
01:41:23,159 --> 01:41:27,640
Yeah, Liz and my friend Derek
Smith, who's been booking the music

864
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,680
there, they're going to be coming
in that day that which is awesome.

865
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,439
I really I like going there and
I'm looking forward. I know they're going

866
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:38,760
to be having more stuff coming down
the pike. We've we've gotten to go

867
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:44,600
there and see musicians, which was
very enjoyable. It's like a small intimate

868
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:51,119
collective. It's like they call it
collective. It's a small dress. One

869
01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:55,960
of the things we talked about,
though, was when my like me as

870
01:41:56,039 --> 01:41:59,199
a writer, thinking, I don't
want to have anything to do with this.

871
01:41:59,319 --> 01:42:00,640
I don't want to go in where
near it. I don't want anybody

872
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,920
to confuse it. You know,
I want to do my own work.

873
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:09,800
But then, oh, but it's
a great editor, right, so should

874
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,079
you use it for editing? Is
it safe to put your work on there?

875
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:15,920
These are the kind of questions that
started running through my mind, or

876
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,079
the other way around. You ask
it to write stuff for you, and

877
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:24,720
then you edit it as a human. One of the podcasts that I listened

878
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,279
to that's been talking a lot about
this is I don't know, if you

879
01:42:27,319 --> 01:42:31,840
know, if you're familiar with Adam
Conover. He's a podcaster. He's also

880
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,640
a stand up comedian. He also
is a Hollywood writer. He's done a

881
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:43,239
lot of different things. But he
was expressing the concern in an episode that

882
01:42:43,279 --> 01:42:46,960
I was listening to about how you
know because he's as a writer, he's

883
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:53,680
was part of that that whole strike
and part of the concern among script writers

884
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,800
is, you know, is there
going to come a point where just all

885
01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:00,399
scripts are AI generated or and he's
he didn't think that it'll come to that.

886
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:02,920
But what he is worried about,
and what a lot of people are

887
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:11,600
worried about, is there there comes
a point where a script is AI generated

888
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:15,279
and then a human a human writer
takes that script and just punches it up

889
01:43:15,359 --> 01:43:20,279
and kind of humanizing it, but
isn't responsible for creating it from scratch.

890
01:43:21,319 --> 01:43:30,560
And that will contribute to the devaluation
of what writers are paid because you don't

891
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,159
need to hire you know, say
you're you're going to be uh, you

892
01:43:33,199 --> 01:43:39,720
know, you're developing a Hollywood film, you don't need to hire a writer

893
01:43:40,399 --> 01:43:45,359
to write a script for that film. You just need to You can have

894
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,920
chat GPT generate an entire script and
then give it to a writer who just

895
01:43:49,039 --> 01:43:51,880
goes through, punches it up,
kind of humanizes it. You know,

896
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:59,000
probably would have to punch up some
of the dialogue. But so there are

897
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,199
a lot of concerns. What's interesting
about Adam Conover's podcast though, to me

898
01:44:02,319 --> 01:44:08,960
too, is he and some of
the guests that he has on their main

899
01:44:09,159 --> 01:44:13,039
concern is how does this affect art
and people who make money with art.

900
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,439
But on the other end, they're
very dismissive of some of the other concerns

901
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,439
because some of the concerns that people
have about AI is, you know,

902
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:25,960
and we were kind of half joking
about it at the presentation yesterday about AI

903
01:44:26,119 --> 01:44:30,239
taking over and killing all the humans. And there's another guy, there's a

904
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:35,079
technology guy named Scott Galloway who works
in this area and he's I've seen him

905
01:44:35,159 --> 01:44:40,520
on Conover's podcast and some others,
and you know, because some people are

906
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:44,720
sounding the alarm and some people like
Galloway, his attitude about it is that's

907
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,800
he thinks that's completely absurd. He
says, you know, in terms of

908
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,479
copyright and things like that, there
are plenty of issues that need to be

909
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:57,000
sorted out. But he says,
you know, AI systems are not going

910
01:44:57,039 --> 01:45:00,399
to become sentient beings that decide to
kill us all. He thinks that that's

911
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:04,920
science fiction stuff, and it's and
it's crazy. But but there's a part

912
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:09,079
of what's interesting as we learn more
about this is not only seeing how AI

913
01:45:09,199 --> 01:45:14,600
continues to develop, but the range
of opinions and what the concern like everybody

914
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:19,760
has concerns about it, but the
concerns vary wildly among the people who are

915
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:24,960
studying this and and come to different
conclusions about what the concerns should be.

916
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:32,239
So that is, uh is fascinating
to me. But I thought, well,

917
01:45:32,399 --> 01:45:36,520
yeah, I mean I worry about
how do you tell the difference?

918
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:41,960
Right, how do you tell the
difference between AI art and human art when

919
01:45:42,119 --> 01:45:45,880
it gets better and better? Right? Does it? Does it replace?

920
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:53,800
Does it replace us? Right?
I'm because when you look at AI.

921
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:58,720
Now we're talking about AI, but
AI in general has already been projected it's

922
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,920
going to take over millions of jobs
and you know in the future, and

923
01:46:01,039 --> 01:46:04,159
like, I forget what there was
a number I saw that. I can't

924
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:06,439
remember what it was. It was
like what they thought was going to happen

925
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:10,920
to like twenty twenty five or something. But there's obviously going to be a

926
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:15,199
lot of jobs that are going to
AI. But there's so you put that

927
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:21,920
there's like a category of things that
could potentially or eventually be only done by

928
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:28,720
computer. Yeah, is that all
of our writers can they invoke the emotion?

929
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:31,600
They can be pretty descriptive, right, I mean, we've played with

930
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:35,760
it a little yeah, oh yeah, And I mean I can't say that

931
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:41,600
it's not good because it is.
Yeah, it is, But I worry

932
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:45,640
about see for me, there's an
integrity thing there too. It's like,

933
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:49,359
I like the idea of being able
to have an independent computer to edit my

934
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:53,680
work and not have to wait for
somebody else or anything like that. But

935
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:57,279
on the other hand, if I
let it touch my work, is it

936
01:46:57,359 --> 01:47:00,920
still just mine? Right? Yeah, that's it. That's a natural concern

937
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,800
to have. I think absolutely well
we are. We are just about out

938
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:09,319
of time. We gotta we got
to wrap up. But another successful show,

939
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,800
and of course I will be back
next week, which will be our

940
01:47:13,199 --> 01:47:16,119
well our last show of the year
twenty twenty three. So thank you all,

941
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:19,880
and if you know, yes and
if you missed any part of today's

942
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:23,920
show it we'll be up in just
a little bit at w m n hradio

943
01:47:24,039 --> 01:47:28,039
dot org and at my website Matt
Connorton dot com. No video of the

944
01:47:28,079 --> 01:47:34,319
show today. Unfortunately, Facebook is
not being cooperative in that vein bamfree thing.

945
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:39,920
I know, damn you Zuckerberg.
Dare you mess up a free thing?

946
01:47:40,239 --> 01:47:44,359
I know, I know, but
uh so that's uh, that's going

947
01:47:44,399 --> 01:47:45,279
to do it. For us for
now. Do you want to uplug your

948
01:47:45,319 --> 01:47:48,800
website? Sure, come check me
out on gencoffee dot com. J E

949
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,880
N N C O F f u
I dot com. You can find my

950
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:57,840
writings, my paintings, and other
arruminations on the site. Yes, indeed,

951
01:47:58,079 --> 01:48:00,960
all right, we're gonna get out
of here and that's it for us.

952
01:48:00,279 --> 01:48:02,920
We will talk at y'all a little
bit later. Bye everybody, Bye

953
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:47,199
bye for listening to w um n
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