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Think of like athletes. They create
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And as business people especially, I'm
an entrepreneur and a working parents and

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a leader, all three of those
things. I need a routine every day

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that's going to unlock my highest quality
thinking. And here's where we mess up.

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Well, I'm your host, Carrie
Lets. You know, we're always looking

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for ways to help you become great, to help you raise elevate your game,

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to help you become the person that
you should become. And a lot

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of the time it sounds like spiritualism
and gobbledegook. But every now and then

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somebody comes along and writes a book
that's actually based on fact and experience,

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proving to you that you two can
do it. And that person today is

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Christina Curtis Christina. It is great
to have you on the show. Your

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book Choosing Greatness, an evidence based
approach to achieving exceptional outcomes. And hey,

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so success is no accident. In
other words, right, success is

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no accident. There's a lot of
science around how to actually achieve the level

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of success you want personally, professionally
from a wealth and well being standpoint,

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and that's what we talk about in
the book. All right, so what

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are the three most important factors in
judging whether somebody will eventually become a success

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or not? Hm, that's an
interesting question, you know. The first

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thing is whether they can get comfortable
being uncomfortable. I think it's really important

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carry because success, I mean what
a success means. It's different for each

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person, but regardless, it is
something that they have not yet attained.

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It is out in the future somewhere
where they have to create a tension between

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where they are now and where they
want to go and get there and guess

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what it means choosing new patterns of
behavior, new thoughts, new actions,

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new approaches, and when you try
something new, the brain's response is often

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to say, hey, hold the
phone, I don't want to do anything

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new. I've been doing this for
as long as I can remember. It's

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working just mine, thank you very
much. The brain is an economical organ

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It does not want to burn mental
calories. It doesn't need to, so

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anytime you try change, you get
discomfort. I mean, I think of

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it this way. If you're on
a treadmill and you hit moment three.

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For me, maybe for other people
it's later, but you hit moment three

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and you're like, I don't really
want to be doing this anymore. Your

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brain will rationalize why you can slow
down, get off, or do other

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things because it doesn't want to.
It doesn't want to grow, it doesn't

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want to push through to that next
layer. So getting comfortable with being uncomfortable

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is critically important. And the people
I work with who are at the tightens

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of their industry, at the top
of their game, they are every year

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building up a higher and higher tolerance
to manage discomfort, which means they can

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scale, which means they can grow, which means they can take on things

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they're not capable of achieving yet.
But they're going to lean in and figure

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out how and build the teams that
will get them there. I think that's

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really important. That's the first one
does that resonate when you carry absolutely And

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I once read that successful leaders are
able to manage ambiguity, meaning that there's

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two conflicting thoughts or events taking place, the average person will just throw up

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their hands and they'll just choose one, but that a leader can keep those

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two conflicting thoughts in their mind and
move ahead in spite of it, and

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actually a chain results. And maybe
both these thoughts that appear to be conflicting

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really aren't. They might fit together. But I don't know what your thoughts

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are about that. It's a little
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It's not out there, it's right
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the fairway. If you think about
the second one, which is objectivity in

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a balanced approach, it means don't
just react, don't just react. We

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actually operate on autopilot forty two percent
of the day, Kerrie. So we

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wake up and we do what we've
done before again to conserve mental energy and

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stay safe. We've already done it. We're safe now, So I guess

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if I repeated, it's all good. The challenge is we become very binary

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in our thinking. Should I do
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or that should I engage this way
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between one answer and another, there's
whole rainbow of options that could also be

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true. And cognitively we tend like
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the movie Barrett Forrest Gump? You
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It's quick, you don't enough to
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I said, what was your favorite
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got to slow down and think.
It's not yes or no answer. And

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so you have to be balanced and
objective to slow down and say, based

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on this vantage point, based on
this person asking what do I want to

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share? That's breaking a pattern.
That's breaking a pattern and causing you to

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open a new part of your brain
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executives who I work with, who
are exceptionally strong leaders and who are have

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very padded wallets, who evade a
lot of money, are not just reacting,

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they're responding. So they're really pausing. They're elbowing their way in that

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space between an event and their reaction
to it to say, what's my long

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term goal here? And how do
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up degenerate that versus just here's how
I'm going to react. Here's the emotion

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that shows up in my body,
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I think responding very methodically by being
balanced, no high, ike's, no

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no lows, to say here's what
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us forward is really important. So
I completely agree ambiguity. You often move

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to how do I create certainty fast? And if you slow down, you'll

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realize, I'm certainty is not so
bad if we could just find our best

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next step and start exploring other options
and learn and learn. So cognitive dissonance

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that will set in oftentimes, especially
when you're trying to do something new,

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the average person just shuts down and
goes to a a auto response. Like

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you mentioned, They're just a default
response without looking ahead critically. So leader's

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got to measure, got to learn
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well, and be aware of what
your patterns are. One of the greatest

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things that we do when it comes
to executive coaching is pausing to say what

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patterns in your day are helping you
in which ones are roting your results and

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your relationships, which I'm even thinking
about it. I'll use a really easy

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example, which is food. Right. If I'm walking my airport, I

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travel a time for work and I
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it doesn't matter if it's nine am
or midnight. I'm like, and

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I'm just going to stop and buy
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goal is to get fit this year, that choice is not in alignment with

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what I want to create. But
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I don't even think about it.
Frankly, sometimes I don't even enjoy the

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brand of chip. I just get
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automatic pattern. If I pass the
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Oh would have been good, would
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you feel this pull back to your
regular behavioral patterns, and that's where cognitive

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dissonance comes in. I can rationalize
my way at a giving up on anything.

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I can rationalize my way on going
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it in a heartbeat. But if
you just recognize that's just a neurological pattern,

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a risk barometer saying, and let's
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stick to what's comfortable, you can
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time, hold the discomfort and choose
change anyway. Right, So the people

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you talk to do they do meditation, relaxation, dance their main ways of

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a coping with stress, and be
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yeah, well totally in addition to
getting comfortable, being uncomfortable, and

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really responding versus reacting. The third
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that brings out your best think of
like athletes, they create routines that maximize

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speed and agility and strength, and
as business people especially, I'm an entrepreneur

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and a working parents and a leader, all three of those things. I

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need a routine every day that's going
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here's where we mess up. We
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my calendar, the more productive and
efficient I'm going to be. The problem

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is what I've really learned again from
people who are bringing in the billions,

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not just the millions, is you
need space or your body and your brain

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have a micro break so it can
recharge. Because we actually only have about

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two hundred and forty minutes of high
octane thinking in a day that's available to

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us. So if you just run
from one meeting to one meeting to one

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meeting, come home and do one
shore to the next shore, to the

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next shore, you are moving yourself
back into these habitual patterns that come barreling

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down your well holed neural pathways rather
than creating space. And what does that

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look like It maybe meditation. I've
got a timer on my desk and I

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do two minute breaks three times a
day with just sitting still and breathing,

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and it allows me to move from
any risk of distress back into healthy stress.

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I work with a lot of executives
who will move their body rather than

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sit still, and so they may
walk one block and just listen to music,

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not be on a call, not
multitask, but just walk one block.

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The goal is to get away from
hyper focused intensity a couple times a

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day and creating a regimen that will
bring that forwards so you can recharge,

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renew and be running as fast at
five o'clock as you were at eight am.

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Right, So that concept that you're
not biring on all cylinders throughout the

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day. They're ups and downs.
So I mean it's a little off the

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beaten path here, but the stuff
that they call food nowadays really doesn't,

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you know, like the junk food
you're referred to, yea linegar, chips

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or whatever. Yeah, they're all
processed foods. They really don't optimize your

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performance. Have you found that high
ranking executives have a certain nutritional program that

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also aids their higher thought program?
I do. And that's part of the

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regiment, right, that's their weekly
How am I What am I putting into

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my body that will allow my brain
to come up with high quality insights?

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And because that's your greatest competitive advantage
in today's economy, how can I have

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a differential thought? How can I
create the environment where those ideas come to

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life? What we do know is
junk food actually decreases your productivity every day

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by twenty percent. By twenty percent. I mean, think about that.

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If I woke up and I'm like, I'm going to work hard today,

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but I'll give up twenty percent just
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If someone framed it that way to
me and be like, I'm good,

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I want to skip the chips.
But it's really interesting. If you

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eat healthy food, your brain obviously
is clearer, it's sharper, it operates

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more effectively. And so absolutely,
the way that you can replan your week

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around nutrition and just exercise, even
if it's just walking, will have a

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direct correlation to your performance at work. That is not me saying it.

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That is an avalanche full of research
that demonstrates the brain and the body are

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directly connected. Your brain is your
asset for your career. Let's set up

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an environment each week so it can
perfect form, it can shine. And

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I didn't get to exercise, but
you brought it up. So for me,

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exercise been a part of my life
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with a few minor exceptions, you
know, life transformations where you just kind

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of get out of the habit.
But now at this point, I'll never

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stop doing it till they bury me. But I assume that most of these

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high power executives all have an exercise
regiment, if not to strengthen their bodies

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and their minds, to at least
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Yeah, and part of the exercise
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look good, right. I think
that's the eighties and nineties mentality of we're

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in the bathing suits on the beach
and I just have a vision of the

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eighties that popped in my head for
some reason. Now we know there's healthy

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stress, which we call you stress. There's a level of stress that actually

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it gets you too sharper thinking.
And if you're not moving your body and

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moving that stress around, it turns
into distress. It gets it's a feeling

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of overwhelmed people talk about. And
once you are in distress, you're connon

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of functioning. Your ability to think
great thoughts decreases. So the prefrontal cortex

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where critical thinking happens, actually turns
down and other parts of your brain turn

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on because you've moved into a state
of distress. It is now self protection

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over goal directed behavior. So you
need exercise, if only if it's a

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walk around the block they say for
eleven minutes, to allow you to not

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only improve your cardiovascular help and decrease
your risk of stroke, but also to

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be your best at work. And
I mean that by when you use the

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word success, to be successful in
results in relationship. We have to let

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go of this belief that the brain
and body are not connected. They are

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one and the same. They are
one and the same. And I will

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tell you I did not take care
of my body in my thirties, and

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I sprinted really fast and hard at
work, and I had long term implications

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and I feel really slow down my
career because what I thought was the top

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of my game. When I was
bringing in six figures, I was like,

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this is it, this is the
top. Keeps printing. And when

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I finally learned how to create a
regiment that allowed me to bring out my

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best I realized, oh, that's
nowhere near the top. I've got a

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lot more horsepower. I've just been
draining it ineffectively every day. That was

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a real wake up call for me. So there's some trends like in Silicon

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Valley. Some are a little disturbing, like micro dosing LSD to become where

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I'm not advocating by any stretch.
I think you're messing with your body,

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your brain chemistry. Same. But
one thing that of recent years that's come

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to light is fasting. And yeah, le have started a fasting regime in

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the past year, and I find
that mental acuity, mental clarity, energy.

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You think, oh, you don't
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but actually the opposite's true, because
your body shifts into fat burning load and

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your clarity, and your ability to
focus goes way way up, and you're

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actually burn ten percent more energy when
you're fasting than when you're not. So

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I don't know if you've had any
experience with it, he's ever told you

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about it, but share your thoughts. Yeah, fasting and been a cash

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really in the past five years,
I've seen an explosion around this way to

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make sure you're optimizing your mental acuty
to your point, and also the way

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your body is physically responding. And
it's not for everyone. Actually can have

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negative effects for some people depending on
their body makeup, so it's worth talking

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to a doctor about it. However, there's another element to what you're talking

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about, which is priming your body
for performance so that your brain is performing

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and it's best. That's your greatest
competitive advantage, right, And one thing

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we don't think a lot about that's
directly correlated this is confidence. When you

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don't feel good when you wake up
and you feel sluggish because you had a

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glass two glasses of wine the night
before, or you pushed through on a

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project and you went to bed at
midnight and you didn't get it off sleep,

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or you're burning candle on both ends
and just sprinting, sprinting, sprinting,

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and it feels like there's no and
in sight. The other thing it

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gets hit is your confidence. And
confidence is a skill, not a trait,

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which means you build it. You
build it. You got to choose

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it every day and say I'm going
to lean in and build this muscle.

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And when you're depleted and tired and
feeling down, it spirals into a gosh,

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I don't know if I can actually
do this. Gosh, this feels

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pretty big cash this weight. I'm
not sure I really want to engage with

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this amount of weight at work or
at home right now. And that impacts

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what you reach for and what you
go for. So not only is a

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performance of mental acuity, but self
doubt can get pretty loud when you're feeling

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burnt out. Confidence every effectively,
or even if you're not feeling confidence.

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So you've got to fake it,
right, Yeah, well you have to

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choose it. So the way I
look at it is if I wake up

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and self doubt is ring really loudly, I've got this like low grade buzz

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anxiety that's with me in the more
day. Either I can just allow that

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to happen, or I can meet
it. And what I mean by that

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is there's accepting and believing that that's
just you, and then there's realizing that's

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just a safety security mechanism. That's
saying something is off. So I'm going

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to throw doubt here and slow you
down. Because something is off, it's

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okay to recognize Itself doubt turns on
anytime you're going to step outside of your

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comfort zone, anytime, because the
brain's saying, hey, there's a risk

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here. There's social risk here,
there's financial risk here, there's career risk

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here. Even if it's small,
self doubt do doesn't calibrate. It's loud,

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and the more we allow that to
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Versus there's fascinating research when they looked
at the two thousand Sydney Olympics to say

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who are those that made metals and
who didn't. And what they found was

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a common denominator in those who made
metals or earned medals. I always say

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made metals, but they didn't go
into a shop and make them. They

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earned the medal. Was how they
engaged with self doubt, was how they

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engaged with their inner talk tracks.
And they didn't give it the mic and

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say, have at it, rerun
this day. I guess I don't know

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confidence. They don't have the ability
to do that because it's too taxing.

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It causes you to slow down and
play small. Instead, they engage and

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say thanks, I'm good, I've
got it, I'm all good, here's

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what I need to adjust. Let's
keep going. And that way, when

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something goes wrong, they're not immediately
internalizing that something's wrong with them. Right.

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So what about the concept of visualizing
success? Imagining success that's in a

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lot of these success gururus. Yeah, but there's some validity to it because

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athletes who've used visualization have excelled and
have gotten as much, almost as much

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benefit as physically doing the act that
they're visualizing. You know what's so cool

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about this one, which I talk
about in the book Choosing Greatness, is

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when you visualize a future event playing
out well or not, it is created.

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That visualization is created in the same
part of the brain that stores previous

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memories. So what I'm saying is
you are making a memory of something that

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hasn't even happened yet, which is
really powerful because then when it comes to

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that moment, it's almost probable.
It's more probable that it will play out

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that way because you've got a memory
of it. You're like, I know

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how this goes. Oh, I
know this situation. I know when this

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ends. It ends in a win
versus. What we tend to do,

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because we're primed to look at risk, is say, oh my god,

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I got that speech in two weeks
or that presentation. I'm going to flub

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it. The CEO is going to
wonder what the heck I'm doing. My

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colleagues are going to think I'm not
smart. I get more and more anxious,

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and then guess what happens when I
get there, I'm breaking out out.

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And so making sure you are calm, balanced, objective, creating the

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regiment for your brain and your body
to be showing up at its best is

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important. But so is visualizing what
you want and leaning in confidently to go

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for it. All right, I
think we'll leave it at that. Now

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you've made me want to go up
and buy the book. I assume it's

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available in Amazon and where her fine
books used to be sold. It sure

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is Barnes and Noble, you name
it, Amazon, go for it.

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And it's called choosing greatness, an
evidence based approach to achieving exceptional results.

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All right, and your website is
Curtis Leadership dot com. I suggest everybody

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go there. You can of course
obtain the book there as well. Questions

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for Christina and myself email address kl
at Kerrylots dot com and we'll have a

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click through and you'll be able to
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Thanks so much for coming by.
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