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right, let's get things rolling on this

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Monday night. If it's another season
of Bengals football that must meet, it's

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another season of Bengals line of the
first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. Lance

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Pacalister Dave Lappha'm with you each and
every Monday night. We sort through the

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game, we look ahead to the
next game, We talk with players,

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coaches, break it all down for
three hours each and every Monday night.

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And David, certainly, wasn't what
we expected. It wasn't what we wanted,

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but it is what we get.
And now just a matter of cleaning

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up a number of things and not
letting it snowball and looking ahead eventually those

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Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, it was. It was definitely ugly. Ugogi as

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as like to say, I mean, it was a case of getting handled.

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Bottom line, the thing that impressed
me most was the Cleveland Brown's defensive

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football team. I mean, Jim
Schwartz had them ready. It looked like

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they were in the huddle listening to
plays because the coverage was suffocating, I

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mean, blanketed. It was unbelievable. They've got great some great players,

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there's no question about it, Myles
Garrett, Denzel Award, but all eleven

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guys. I mean, I'm watching
it and they're moving in such harmony and

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such, you know, I mean, perfect coordination. Everybody's where they're supposed

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to be when they're supposed to be
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And I'm like, boy, these
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and I mean Joe Borrow put up
career low numbers for a reason, and

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I think, you know, obviously
they weren't at the top of their game,

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there's no question about that offensively,
but I think the Cleveland Browns defense

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had a hell of a lot to
do with it. They you gotta give

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them credit. You gotta tip their
tip your cap to him, because after

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the game, the players were saying
they didn't do anything. We didn't anticipate

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it. Sure looked like it.
It looked like they were, you know,

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a little bit uh, a little
bit hesitant, befuddled. But I'm

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not sure that it was that they
were like, oh, I don't expect

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him to be doing that. I
think it's like I didn't expect to be

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doing it that well, you know, it's like, man, our guys,

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we just can't get any separation.
I was gonna be a follow up

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because when you have Miles Garrett up
front who can do what he can do.

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But the back end of Denzel awarded
even delpit at safety. That the

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the closing of the gap, the
hands in the face, the batting the

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ball away. They were all over
Bengals wide receivers. They really were.

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I mean they challenged them, and
I thought that was the thing that uh,

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you know, Schwartz really did.
All Right, I'm gonna be aggressive.

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We're coming after you. He blitzed
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more of a guy that by alignment
will get one on one matchups. He's

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not a heavy blitz guy. I
thought, he blitz the higher percentage than

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he does. Uh, he does
normally, But then he pressed. I

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mean he got corners right up in
their faces. And and when they were

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playing zone, they attacked. I
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Everything in their mind set was like, we're gonna be the aggressor we

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are the puncher. You're gonna have
to counter punch us, even though defensively

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we you know, by trade,
are supposed to counter what you do.

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You're gonna have to counter us,
because here we come, and man,

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they came after it. When when
you look back and you see six first

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downs, if you see seven punts
on the first seven drives, it it

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doesn't even It looks like a mispread
that that that can't be for this offense.

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Uh, this offense. The numbers
that that are like staggering a bad

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six first downs, two on the
ground, three first downs passing. This

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offensive football team thirteen point three percent
on third down, two out of fifteen

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on third down conversions. And they
got their first one, the first third

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down conversion of the game. They
got it. The second one was a

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third and one, and they didn't
even get it. And I thought and

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then all of a sudden they couldn't
get into third and meet even short anymore.

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It was third and length thirteen point
three percent one hundred and forty two

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yards on fifty four plays, two
point six yards per play. Bottom line

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is the Cleveland Browns since twenty twenty
are six and one against the Cincinnati Bengals.

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They have a losing record twenty two
and twenty three against everybody else in

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the league. Some teams, you
know, the old saying, oh they

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got our number. I mean,
it's like this is Stefanski is six and

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one against the Cincinnati Bengals. Zach
Taylor is one and six against the Cleveland

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Browns. It's it's almost remarkable because
look at the Bengals record against everybody else,

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yep, and they're one in six
against the Cleveland Browns. The Browns

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find it hard, difficult to lose
to the Bengals, but then they can

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lose to everybody else. But Paul's
a weird game sometimes, man, Yeah,

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no question about that. Let's go
inside the locker room after the game,

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kick off our reaction throughout these three
hours. Here's Dave with the coach,

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Zach Taylor after the game. Coach
Obviously twenty four to three outcome wasn't

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what you were looking for. But
coming out of this football game, the

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good news is seemed to come out
of it pretty darn healthy. Yeah,

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we'll look at that, but obviously
we want to come by here with a

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win and healthy. You know,
but it's a long season, so we

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gotta make the corrections that we can
control and be ready to go next week.

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INDs Baltimore in your mind, what
are some of those corrections that you

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feel like need to be made that
you can control. There's gonna be a

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lot of hidden yardage in just all
over the field, you know that presented

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us with field position and then third
down clearly on offense, we were two

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or fifteen or three fifteen, and
that's that's not gonna beat anybody. So

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there's gonna be a lot of things
we can clean up defensively, particularly in

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the first half. Two takeaways.
You didn't turn the football over, you

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went plus two. You know,
that's that's gonna win you some football games

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when other things are ironed out.
There's no question, you know, they

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did. They did what we needed
them to do, and we went for

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it on fourth down in their territory. And it gave up seven points right

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after that, had the two turnovers. They really had field position working against

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some of the entire game and held
out for us well, So you know,

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I thought that there was there was
a lot of winning things that are

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defensive today. If I'm not mistaken, I think Joe put a glove on.

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I mean, what was it that
bad out there with that rain?

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I mean, if it's just drizzle
in a little bit, that can make

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a football darn slick with that rosin
on it, Yea, it was as

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bad as we've had since I've been
here, you know, So that's no

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moment that that factors into the game, and we gotta be ready for as

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a team and start to adjust and
again win on those little small rings and

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all three phases to help ourselves.
And just didn't do good enough job of

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that. Saying did Cleveland do anything
defensively that that surprised you at all?

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Or they were very aggressive in their
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I guess, yeah, sure,
and you should be. You know,

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they're in the first half when it
when it gets wet, and it's gonna

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be hard to throw it and they're
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So they did a good job of
that stuff. So now as you

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get ready for the Baltimore Ravens,
you get them at home. And I

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mean, what did you tell your
football team in the locker room right after

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this football game? We gotta clean
this thing up tomorrow, put this one

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behind us, and be ready to
see the team that we know we are

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next week when we played Baltimore at
home. Yeah, you're exactly right.

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I mean, the last two years
this team went to the Super Bowl,

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went to the SC Championship Game and
lost in Cleveland both years. I mean,

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it's not like you don't throw the
baby out with the bathwater, right.

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Yeah, people will make a lot
of it because it's Week one and

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there's been a lot of focus on
this game. But again, we know

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that it's gonna be a long season
and we just gotta put them behind us

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to make the corrections and get ready
for next week. Zach Taylor after the

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game with Dave and and we say
this each time there is a loss,

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and it may sound cliche, but
it's the reality. There's nothing you can

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do about the one that has happened. Don't let its snowball and carry over

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into week two, now right,
I mean it's like, all right,

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learn you know, don't don't totally
dismiss it, look at the tape,

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learn from your mistakes, and then
compartment compartmentalized, move on and get ready

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for the next opponent. You just
can't let it linger. You can't let

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it eat away at you. But
you can't act like it didn't happen,

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because it did. And the real
kicker is and you try to compartmentalize.

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But at the same time, you
realize Kansas City lost at home in Week

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one to Detroit, and so there
wasn't as much as you try to focus

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on the not focus on the big
picture of home field, down the road

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and stuff like that. Man,
when you you lose out of the gate,

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when Kansas City is lost, it's
just kicking up yeah, sh yeah,

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I mean it it is. It
is at least that maybe. But

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you know the thing is, though
you look at it and you say,

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okay, well they haven't won up
there since twenty seventeen. The last two

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years the Bengals went to the Super
Bowl and last year they went to the

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SC Championship Game and they lost in
Cleveland both times. So I mean it's

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happened, and they've rebounded and recovered
and all that, all that good stuff.

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But like you say, Lance for
the clearest way to the playoffs is

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winning your division. And you want
to get as high as seat as you

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possibly can by winning your division.
And when the favorite, you know,

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stumbled out of the gate, last
thing you want to do is stumble out

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of the gate. And you didn't
stumble, You fell in your face out

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of the gate. Kansas City stumbled. This team just couldn't have couldn't have

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played any worse. And that's the
thing I think. You look at it

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and say, hey, we had
nowhere to go but up. You can't

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play any worse than we played in
that opener. But why the hell did

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we play like that in the opener? And resolve some of those issues,

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no question about it. There is
a lot to get to in our first

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of three hours tonight. We'll hear
from QB one, Joe Burrow up next

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later out of the hour, Sam
Hubbard, Tyler Boyd, DJ Raider,

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and a whole lot more between now
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Bengals line. We're on the first
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but canister. He is Dave Lapham. We are sorting through yesterday's twenty

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four three loss by the Bengals to
the Browns. Will eventually look ahead to

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those Baltimore Ravens in week two.
And Lance, I think you know one

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good thing that came out of the
game is health. You know there Joe

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Burrow suffered no ill effects to that
calf injury. Seemed like he got through

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it okay. And I guess he'll
know more today after sleeping on it and

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waking up and seeing if it's any
additional stiffness or anything like that after the

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all the action, that all the
physical activity that he gave that calf.

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I know tweaked an ankle a little bit,

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get dinged up, but talked to
him since the game ended. And

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he seems to think that it's it's
it's nothing significant whatsoever. I really can't

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remember anything else that took place during
the game where it was like, oh,

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well, we're gonna have to follow
up and check out that one.

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So you know, that's the interesting
thing is as much as they were dominated

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in terms of the action, a
lot of times you get beaten up too

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as a result of that, and
they didn't. They didn't get beaten up

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in that game at all. The
stalk Joe Burrow tough day a career worship

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fourteen to thirty one. It's hard
to look at those numbers and say,

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wow, fourteen to thirty one,
passing eighty two yards, the two sacks.

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He was high at times, he
was wide at times, went to

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the glove at one time, first
time he's thrown for less than a one

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hundred yards in his career. Let's
hear from Joe, and then we'll react

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to Here's here's performance after the game, here's QB one. Yeah, funk,

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good enough, Fuck good enough.
It's obviously saw you put on the

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gloved happy period. Yeah. Obviously, when when it's running like that,

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it's something that you gotta handle.
We didn't handle it today? Did you

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seem kemp back? We indiating of
this at all. Love to tell a

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lot of variables that go into it. What's going to your mind. It's

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one week obviously not up to our
standard, not up to my standard,

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but we got sixteen more of them, so we're just gonna keep trucking.

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You have sense during the week of
unease entering a year were something like this,

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you could have made something coming at
all or was it pretty No?

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No, we had a good week
practice. Uh, you know, stuff

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like this happens. We've been here
before. We're gonna come back stronger,

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gonna have a good week of practice, get better this week, come back

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next Sunday, hopefully get a win. We're good things that slept in the

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offense today and from the work team. Some of those play I don't know,

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I don't know. I don't know
so well. You know that's it's

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a it's a rep in the elements
that you don't get a lot, and

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you live and you learn from it, and we're gonna come back better.

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So next time we were in a
game like that, we're gonna be more

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well equipped to handle those elements and
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times there was this communication. I
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but what did you notice that all
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once months set. Yeah, that
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things happen when your quarterback doesn't perform
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was obviously something that I would have
liked to have done. But there's no

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excuses. It's obviously not not very
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as a whole on all had just
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it's just some week one, week
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know, you see it across the
league. So that's something that everybody's gotta

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get cleaned up. We gotta get
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much is it dolt that you went
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the world, you guys overcame that
you gotta wait over Yeah, nobody's nobody's

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panicking here, guys. It's one
week one doesn't define anybody's season. Obviously,

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not very good out there, but
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but we've been in this spot before. We've come back stronger and had

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great years, so that's what we're
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of the half, you guys almost
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bit. Yeah, we had we
had a nice little drive there. We

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were running the ball. Well,
that's what you got to do in those

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elements, and then we had miscommunication
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come out with any points. And
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game. I think were they doing
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to get connected today where they have
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or because I a really good corners
Denzel and and Emerson or two of

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the better corners in the league.
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a is a great nickel too,
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we weren't good enough in me putting
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in our one on one situations.
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that. Joe Burrow after the game
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his day there. It just was
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and I think, honestly, and
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Both quarterbacks referenced it. The weather
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before. When you get that drizzle
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drenched with the resin, it's like, man, just slick, very very

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slick. Watson talked about it.
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the football, throw in the football, and I remember multiple times saying he

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deal was he was trying to overcompensate
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Joe's was. I mean about the
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of his hand, almost went backwards. That's when he went to the glove

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and it's like you know what,
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on, the glove was off,
the gloves back on again. So it

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was it was a slippery pigskin.
There's no no two ways about that.

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And and Zach Taylor uh In in
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situation controlling the football is that he's
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as a coach. So sometimes you
think that's not that bad, not the

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rain man. If you it's better
to take those footballs and just dunk him

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in a bucket of water and soaked
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little bit of moisture on there.
That that that happens, and you can

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dry him all you want with a
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that, that's a tough dynamic,
it really is to take care of that

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ball. A couple of TV images
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sidelines with the elastic band the green
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a trainer. A couple of times
they showed him sitting on the bench just

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kind of massaging the knee itself.
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movement standpoint in the pocket and trying
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I mean I don't think that he
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getting chopped up. I mean the
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field. Was not not brit in
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you think about that as well.
Seez if I really do start to try

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to uh, you know, a
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thing and explosive movement and the turf
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going to feel? What's that going
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there were extenuating circumstances. I'd say
he passed that test, but Watson killed

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him with the quarterback run game,
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More to get two. We flip
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Sam Hubbard up next. It's Bengals
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He's Dave Lapham Bengals Line in the
first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. We've

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talked offense and the first part of
the hour with Zach and Joe Burrow.

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Let's flip the script. We'll get
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But always time to get into a
card. Yeah, and let's talk about

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a defensive card. Two takeaways,
no giveaways plus two and gets spanked like

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they did by twenty one points.
That's unusual. Usually go plus two in

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the turnover department, take care of
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couple of takeaways. It goes differently, but not to be up in Cleveland.

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Time for make the right call presented
by the law offices of Blake masl

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and lou and Rumo. Put Dak's
Hill in a good position. Third quarter,

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second and nine from Bengals at the
Bengals forty one yard line. Das

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Hill intercepts Watson the Bengals thirty yard
line returns at twenty yards to midfield.

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Bengals run six players and only pick
up seventeen yards have to settle for a

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fifty one yard field goal by Evan
McPherson. He misses it. To me,

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big big point in the football game. Was still a one score game

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at that point. That could have
eaten into that one score lead and made

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it a four point game and not
to be and after that things really starting

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to fall apart. Let's stay on
the defensive side of things with our conversation.

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Sam Hubbard led all the defensive linement
it snaps yesterday played sixty one of

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seventy four snaps, had eight tackles. Here's a day, was Sam Hubbard?

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Sam I thought there in the first
half defensively, you guys handled things

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exceptionally well. Uh yeah, you
know, we had some good stops.

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I think we need to do better
in the turnover battle. You know,

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given our offensive chance, there's a
lot of things we could have done better

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down the stretch. But you know, it's a second have the most important.

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You know, I'm we're not happy
with the performance, but there's a

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lot of things we can build on. There a lot we can look back

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and correct. You. On third
down, you did a heck of a

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job getting them off football field on
third down. They had some explosive players

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obviously on first and second down,
but third down was handled very very well.

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Yeah, I thought Loud did a
good job down up some pressures.

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We did a good job rushing first
and second. Now we got to eliminate

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those explosives being disciplined. But I
think the defense, defensive line, defense

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as a whole, battled their ass
off and offense, you know, they

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acknowledge they can play better and they're
gonna get it right. I got complete

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faith in our offense and uh,
you know, it's week one. We're

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gonna get better, right, And
I mean we just talked about it with

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Zach. You guys last year went
to the SC Championship game, the year

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before went to the Super Bowl,
and both times didn't win football games in

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Cleveland. So not the end of
the world here. I mean, you

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gotta learn from it. You got
to look at the tape, learn from

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it, and then move on.
Right. Yeah, Cleveland's a tough team

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to play. They always play us
really well. Uh you know, it's

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definitely not the end of the world, but uh a lot, we can

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correct a lot. We gotta look
at ourselves in the mirror and fix those

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things and come ready to play next
week. Two takeaways. One thing the

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offense did do pretty well is uh
not give the football away. You were

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plus two in the turnover department.
That's a that's something to build off of.

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Yeah, that's good, that's what
we talked about doing. It's good

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that we got that plus two.
But uh, you know, we gotta

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eliminate those explosive and do those things
that we talked about Sam Hubbard after the

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game and uh Dave you alluded to
in the open here. They kept them

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in the game. They gave the
offense a chance really until the Watson touchdown

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at the two point conversion was still
sixteen thirteen at that point, and I

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kept thinking, all right, they're
gonna they're gonna hang in here, hang

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in here, and Joe and the
offense is gonna something's gonna break, something's

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gonna click, and they'll be good. And it just never came. Yeah.

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I was thinking, you know,
that touchdown right before the half was

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you know, was was tough pill, tough pill to swallow. But I

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thought, Okay, defense comes out, Cleveland gets the football one three and

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out. Yep, Bengals get the
football, and thinking what kind of adjustments

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made at halftime. Here, Let's
see, let's see how it unfalls.

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Let's see if they could take advantage
in this first series and at no,

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didn't didn't pan out. Cleveland was
still going to dominate on the defensive side

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of the football like they did in
the first half, and they did the

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entire game defense on the field for
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That's a lot for the first week
of the season, it is.

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I mean, you know, the
Bengals were basically out snapped eleven over eleven

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minute time of possession advantage. With
that, I mean, that's that's that's

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significant. You're talking about getting near
a quarter that you had to you know,

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deal with and that the other team
didn't. And uh, they also

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had a fourteen snap disadvantage in the
first half alone and ended up about that

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way as well, So I mean
they were definitely had to grind. They

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were minus eighteen in terms snap seventy
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the Bengals, and minus eleven minutes
and forty seconds in possession, you know,

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along those lines. It was interesting. Among many things I watched and

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listened to and recaps was a podcast, a videocast that Deshaun Watson did,

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and he said at halftime he got
an IV because his legs and arms were

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locking up. He said he didn't
spend much time with the team at halftime

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because he was getting an IV just
because of how he was cramping up and

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how he felt, you know what
I think. And it wasn't really that

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kind of a day, but he
was geeked up. I think that's part

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of what he said. The excitement
of the opportunity finally and the suspension was

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over, and he was he was
feeling good going into the start of the

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season. I mean, looking at
him. I mean the way he pranced

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in front of the Bengals sideline up
to the fifty yard line during the course

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step football game. This game was
unbelievably important to him, and I think

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sometimes when you do that, you
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emotion that can take it out as
well. And then on top of it,

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you're performing physically and you don't keep
up with the water intake because you

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don't factor in and all my emotions. I mean, it's just it's working

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my body here. So that that's
a that's very interesting that. But the

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touchdown that he had, the touchdown
run, they come out and they're in

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a like like like like a diamond
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He notices that they're deficient on that, you know, on the Bengals

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defensive right side, his left side. I don't know if he audible to

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it or he just decided, you
know what, let's let the play unfold.

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If I see lane, I'm going
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Whichever way it happened, whichever way
it turned out, he made an

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unbelievable decision. That thirteen yard and
touchdown run was big and there. Let's

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let's understand that it was it was
a big game for both teams. But

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there's a lot on the line in
Cleveland with Deshaan Watson Kevin Stefanski to begin

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this season, and the expectations with
Watson had they lost yesterday, that the

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feeling in Cleveland is, well,
is it ever gonna happen with Deshaud Watson

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right right? There's no doubt.
I mean there was some pressure there.

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I will say that the Cincinnati Bengals
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If not for the six and one
record against the Bengals, he'd have a

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losing record. He had that great
season in twenty twenty took him to the

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playoffs. It's the only time they've
been in the playoffs in quite a while.

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They haven't been since. But you
know that the fact that six and

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one against the team that has won
the division title the last two years is

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pretty amazing. I really is.
Take a time out of continue well,

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it's head back over to the offensive
side of things. We'll talk with Tyler,

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Boyd and Moore as we make our
way through our number one Tonight roll

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until nine three hours of breaking it
all down, We'll look ahead of those

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Ravens as well. It's Bengals Line. We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals

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Radio Network and seven hundred WLW.
We are moving right along on this Monday

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night. The show is Bengals Line. We do it on the first Star

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times yesterday, came away with two
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Here's uh Tyler Boyd with Dan Horde
and media in the locker room after the

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game. Practice this game done,
but does that make enough plays? I

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think that's on you guys. You
guys are that's for sure, because I

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came nobody to do with yourself and
We pride ourselves on making seventy percent of

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the plays targets that we got,
and we didn't and that's why everybody is

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surprised and everybody pride is in a
way because we didn't fulfill our criteria.

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00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:02.240
But we'll be back next week on
top of a matchups with that secondary.

406
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.400
Obviously, you guys have arguably the
best way of supers in the NFL,

407
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.240
but they have a good secondary as
well. Yeah they're good. They were

408
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.079
touched up well, Uh, running
good scheme, but we knew again,

409
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.799
we knew exactly what they were gonna
do. They just want more, more,

410
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:17.839
more of the battles, and we
did can put us in a bad

411
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.200
position and uh couldn't get ourselves out
the whole. You play years, you're

412
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.000
gonna have some good days and bad
days. But there's it almost stunning how

413
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:26.799
flat you were in this game.
Absolutely, you know, I think that's

414
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.839
probably the most proful thing, you
know, because I think overall we played

415
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.599
great difference play the heck of a
game offense. Uh, we started getting

416
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.440
things going, but we never got
consistent at moving the ball. And Uh,

417
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.880
you could say whatever you want about
the weather, but uh Day was

418
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.680
out there making plays. The Browns
makee plays enough players to win, so

419
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:45.759
just so we didn't make enough play. That's what they're gonna come down soon.

420
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.640
I think there were maybe eight or
nine straight third down tries that you

421
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.559
didn't convert? Was that a specially
glaring Yeah? That that that hurt us

422
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.720
a lot, because we prod ourselves
on standing out there and converting, you

423
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.480
know, in third down, especially
because we know that's why and coverage is

424
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.599
gonna come, and that's when the
one on one opportunities come, and that's

425
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.160
when we make the big plays that
you usually see. And you didn't today

426
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.200
because uh, they got the best
of us. But uh, they're a

427
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.480
great team. But uh, I
mean we just gotta win more mess ups.

428
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.039
I think from the storylines that might
come out of this will be preseason

429
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:21.519
Joe not being able to play,
obviously with the captain injury, how think

430
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.480
of a factor? Do you think
reps were with him? Obviously you've had

431
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.680
plenty of reps with them overall,
but just the past couple of weeks I

432
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.759
practiced with him. Yeah, I
mean end of the day. I mean,

433
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.839
it's football. I mean just because
you're down on two weeks or whatever

434
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.559
it is, it doesn't change.
You're gonna see the same coverage, the

435
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.759
scene, the same defense, everything. I mean, Joe has been padding

436
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:42.160
up his game even though he's not
practicing, he's still getting mental rep.

437
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.119
He's still doing a little bit of
walking through with us, taking us separately

438
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.960
and doing stuff with us to make
sure he still got his mechanics down pack.

439
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.960
And I don't think that really played
a factor. They just I'll played

440
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.599
us and they made more plays.
Another thing people are going to continue to

441
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.960
wonder is if the offense needs to
play at a little bit in the preseason.

442
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.039
And is it fair to to ask
that question at this point? Uh

443
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.119
Again, I mean you can say
what you want, but uh, I

444
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.920
think the level of talent and that
we have on the offensive side that I

445
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.640
don't really think that too much because
if we went out there and we would

446
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:17.319
have won twenty four three, that
wouldn't have been uh no argument, you

447
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.000
know, but we definitely gotta play
better. I don't think the preseason got

448
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:22.279
anything to do with it, cause, uh, we all did our jobs.

449
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.319
We just gotta do it, uh
at the level that we always we

450
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.559
expect ourselves to play out what he
be being out on the field with Joe

451
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.640
for the first time. Is there
something to that, I was, shoot

452
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.720
me for first time the first time, you know, in a game situation,

453
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.960
having chosen having miss six points,
right, you know cap strength?

454
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.920
I mean again, I mean that's
Joe. I mean, he always gonna

455
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.640
find a way, He get mental
reps, he going do what you gotta

456
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.480
do. They always, uh stay
on top of his game. I mean

457
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.519
it, this been going on for
three years straight. Well, we had

458
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.599
a great uh tough losses or we
in a in a in a in a

459
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.559
h midst of a game and don't
go away. But I don't think the

460
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:07.200
preseason or anything like that contribute Tyler. After the game two catches ten yards

461
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.440
and boy, you look down that
wide receiver sheet and I don't think anybody

462
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.920
would be expected to see T Higgins
targeted eight times and I'd have a single

463
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.759
catch. Yeah, that's that's crazy. I mean, that's only the second

464
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.279
time that T Higgins is playing the
game and not caught a food a game

465
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.680
in his rookie season. And it
was like it wasn't like he didn't get

466
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:33.799
opportunity. Targeted eight times is significant, But again, good defense in some

467
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.039
cases, you know, contestant catches
his forte. They were battling pretty well

468
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.839
there, and I'm sure Joe Barrow
will be the first to tell everybody that

469
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:47.839
the pinpoint accuracy that you've come to
expect it wasn't there, wasn't terrible.

470
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.799
I mean, he wasn't like,
you know, like, what the hell

471
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.960
what do you throw? Who you
throwing it to? What you were you

472
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.920
throwing it? But as I was
watching the Bengals offense, I'm like,

473
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.160
man, it's just a tickoff.
It's a tick off here and just a

474
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.839
tick off there, and pretty soon
you're ticked off. I mean, it's

475
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:10.720
like it's getting bad out there because
it's just just they could never find rhythm,

476
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.680
timing, tempo. It just oh
man, it was like, you

477
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.480
know, five and a half cylinders
and not six. You know, it

478
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.599
just it just wasn't quite there.
The engine just was not turning over.

479
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.519
Let's head down the stretch in our
first hour, back to the defensive side.

480
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.640
DJ Reader thoughts on the game from
him as we continue, It's Bengals

481
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:36.720
Line and the first Star Logistics,
Bengals Radio Network and seven hund WLW heading

482
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:38.599
down the stretch, about to put
the wraps on our first of three hours

483
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.759
tonight in Bengals Line of the first
Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network Lands but Calister

484
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.960
Dave Lappham, Hey, Bengals fans, make sure to catch me and Dan

485
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.640
Hoard every Wednesday this season for Bengals
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486
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:56.480
air from six to eight pm on
ESPN fifteen thirty. And this Wednesday,

487
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:02.039
we're at the Holy Grail, so
hopefully we'll have a Bengal player of some

488
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:07.559
significance to join us and give you
thoughts on the bang on the loss to

489
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:14.799
the Cleveland Browns and the rebound week
against the Baltimore Ravens. DJ Reader played

490
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:19.480
fifty one snaps yesterday anchoring that defensive
line. He talked with Dan Horde after

491
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:21.920
the game. We're in the locker
room, a DJ Reader, I'm sure

492
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.119
that was the total opposite of what
everybody in this room expected. You just

493
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:28.559
came out and really couldn't seem to
get much going, particularly on the offensive

494
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.319
end. Yeah, me come out. We will flat. This is the

495
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:36.839
team in general. But that's tough. Yeah, I get actually drawn board.

496
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.799
I know it's such a cliche saying
I hate saying it, honestly,

497
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.559
but we got good and do a
thing. A lot of guys and our

498
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.799
team on our team that good guys
play a lot of the balls. I

499
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.039
mean, we're not tripping up who
we are. We just gotta go out

500
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.000
there and do it. Guys can't
start flat. Is it fair to wonder

501
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:59.759
if the Bengals need to change the
preseason approach and play some guys more and

502
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:01.200
you think that's a factor at all. I don't know if that's it.

503
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:06.519
I think just more so like you
know, if you don't, I know

504
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.119
you need the reps. I know
people talk about that with the Q.

505
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.079
Yeah, you wake up on Sunday, it's snow, the grass, everybodys

506
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.119
ready to go. I don't think
that's the thing. But you know what

507
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.200
I'm saying, Oh you blank on
this language. Nobody has like a what

508
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.920
happened? We came up with that, We got beat and he just how

509
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.599
it goes sometimes, man, And
unfortunately that's how I was wrong in our

510
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:27.200
opening the last couple of years.
So we just we gotta really get on

511
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.079
it. The touchdown late in the
first half, did you feel like that

512
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.839
was a I have a big momentum
swing for Cleveland? It was three nothing

513
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.880
at the time. Nah, because
we came out, I gotta stop.

514
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:38.680
So I don't I wouldn't call it
that, you know what I'm saying,

515
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.440
like, Oh, it just in
the world when we came out, I

516
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.559
gotta stop three out the next So
I didn't think it was a big momentum

517
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.279
ship. I think, well,
we just didn't do it was great and

518
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.039
they gotta put in some touch spots
and then didn't find a way out of

519
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.279
me, you know, So that's
just really what happened. I don't I

520
00:33:54.359 --> 00:34:00.599
don't think that that kind of that
moment was the moment. You didn't play

521
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.559
in the game here last year,
but the Bengals obviously, I've had a

522
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.680
lot of trouble in this building.
Is it frustrating to come here and just

523
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.960
play poorly again? Things? Yeah, that's really frustrating. You never want

524
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:13.719
to go anywhere and play poorly.
You took me like we're gonna stay riding.

525
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.519
I think unfortunately in our division would
get this him twice, so we

526
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.119
gotta come to us next. You
can't really gotta scrap this game, you

527
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.599
know. I can't really think about
it anymore. We know this is a

528
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.239
great offense. It's gonna put up
a lot of points. It's it almost

529
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:29.920
hard to believe when they struggle as
badly as they did today, you know,

530
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:31.880
but they're used to and you know, we just go out there and

531
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:35.239
encourage them to get back to that
and they'll get back to it. It's

532
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.039
not it's definitely different when they don't
know. But get got people out of

533
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.480
the days. Man, It happens, and you can't expect people to be

534
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.599
perfect every day forcing them like this
league, they expects you to be perfect

535
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.559
over this Sunday and I'm just working
this Sunday. So guys gotta get back

536
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.119
to the drawing board. I think
a lot of guys pride. Pride's hurt,

537
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.159
so I think it would be a
good thing for us. You know,

538
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:58.639
you've been able to battle out of
this bank against a while the last

539
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.719
two years, so we're going to
get it. DJ Rader after the game.

540
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.760
That puts our first of three in
the books. But hang tight,

541
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.000
there is much more to get to. In hours two and three, we'll

542
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:13.760
talk with Ted Carriss, Jamar Chase
talk a little special teams, talk about

543
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.800
Joe Burrows contract. Eventually in that
third hour do from Baltimore. Ravens breakdown

544
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.840
as well. Maybe take a look
at the AFC North. One week in

545
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.480
the books, one hour of Bengals
Line in the books, Hang tight,

546
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.679
much more to get to Dave Lapham, Lance pacalister, thanks for hanging out

547
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.039
with this on this Monday night.
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00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:42.159
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553
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.880
end our number two with Bengals Line. We're on the first Guard Logistics Bengal

554
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:13.119
is a radio network and seven hundred
w l W on Lance for countless or

555
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.960
he would be Dave Lapham, Yes, sir, and right now it's hard

556
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.719
to think pleasure catch up with a
gentleman who's always been very kind to us

557
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.800
with this time talk football. Could
talk football all day long with a guy

558
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:30.400
like this because he is a football
savant that's defensive coordinator lou and a Rumo

559
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.760
coach. We certainly do appreciate your
carbon time for us my pleasure. So

560
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.039
defensively in the first half, you
had to be pleased with how your your

561
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.000
group was playing. I mean that
it was yards were tough to come by.

562
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:51.639
Yeah, for sure, I think, uh, you know, yesterday,

563
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:52.960
it's a team game and and uh
you know, we got to come

564
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:59.079
away with a win regardless of what
the situation is. But you know,

565
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:00.400
we did some really good things in
the game. You know, they were

566
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.840
only four or fourteen on third down. The quarterback had a sixty seven QBR.

567
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.000
We had two takeaways, we had
three sacks. You know, we

568
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.239
had to fumble the interception as I
mentioned. And uh so, you know,

569
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:21.559
they had too many yards rushing.
They also had forty attempts. And

570
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.920
you know the thing that we did
a really good job on the front side

571
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.320
of the runs. And you know
they were out of the forty runs,

572
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.760
twenty five of the forty they gained
four yards or less and ten of those

573
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.519
twenty five there was zero or less. So we did a really good job

574
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.320
in the majority of them. It
was the twelve or fifteen some odd ones

575
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.519
that we had dead to rights on
the front side and they cut it back

576
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.039
and you know, we had got
each guy had kind of put their hand

577
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.519
in it where we got cut out
and you know they had a third down

578
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:57.920
run for a first down around midfield
and then they had the quarterback draw more

579
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:02.000
of a trap type play down,
uh, just before the half there that

580
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:05.719
we you know, we were in
his aero blitz and caught us in a

581
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:10.920
good one there for them. But
you know we we uh we played hard.

582
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.320
You know, we we swarmed in
the ball like we wanted to.

583
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.599
Obviously, the number of rushing yards
is too much. We can clean those

584
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:22.119
things up going forward. Cheeto gave
you a forty three snaps yesterday. How

585
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.239
nice was it to have him back. He's one of our leaders and uh,

586
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.880
he really steadies, steadies things,
and you know it's it's I'm glad

587
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.119
he did what he did and his
snap channel just keep going up the better

588
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:37.719
he feels. He mentioned Chubb on
that cutback. That dude, I mean

589
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:42.000
he will bend it and really bend
it. I mean he from a vision

590
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.519
standpoint and just an ability to make
that type of determination and he's about as

591
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:50.039
good in the in the league.
Yeah, he's a great runner. We

592
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.239
all know that. And you know
there's there's some where he's very very patient.

593
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:57.119
We we play him in a certain
way, and there was a couple

594
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.440
of things where he took it really
way out the back door. Uh,

595
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.920
it's surprised. It didn't surprise,
but caught us off guard with some caught

596
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.480
the corners off guards some where they
need to be right, you know,

597
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.199
tight to the line of scrimmage.
And uh, that's what a guy like

598
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.559
that does to you, challenges you, and you know, so it will

599
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.199
be better your your rookie. DJ
Turner gave you a good chunk of snaps.

600
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.400
Would you think of him? How
did he hold up in his NFL

601
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.480
debut? Nice tackle are up?
They're down? Contested, Well up,

602
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:27.880
they're down. You know, we
had a new new grouping out there,

603
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.440
as everybody saw where you know,
Mike Hilton was doing a different role and

604
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:37.119
uh you know, uh put Cheeto, Cam and DJ on the three wideouts

605
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:42.559
and you know Mike Roman around doing
different things. So we'll keep building on

606
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:47.360
that. And uh, I was
I was pleased with Dj Pratt eleven tackles,

607
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.719
seven unassisted quarterback sack, two tackles, for loss forced to fumble.

608
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.760
I mean, the dude, he's
a he's a playmaker. And then Nick

609
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.639
Scott uh got involved with you know, eleven tackles as well, and uh,

610
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:06.960
Dax Hill, your other safety six
tackles, two tackles for loss an

611
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:12.239
interception. I mean, you're pratt. Okay, he's he's been around,

612
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:14.800
done that for you. But you're
two safety stepped up, didn't they?

613
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.880
It did? Okay. Jermaine and
Logan were fantastic. You know, they're

614
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.079
they right, They get everybody lined
up, They're in the right place all

615
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.079
the time. They you know,
we're really really they are. Among other

616
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.239
things, they are a great screen
team. The Browns are they they kill

617
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:35.559
guys, killed teams with screens.
And you know, we did a really

618
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.280
really really good job on their screens. And it was because of those two

619
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:43.760
d the d line being aware of
it. You know, they had hurt

620
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.119
us with the half back draw in
the past and we were able to shut

621
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:52.119
that down. So, uh,
you know, and and you mentioned the

622
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:53.400
two safeties. I was, uh, you know, pleased to see what

623
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.400
Dax how how he did he still
got a ways to go, And the

624
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.559
same with Nick the at sack take
us through that because if I remember correctly,

625
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:07.239
Pratt and Logan came together that.
Yeah, it was a little this

626
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.840
week we had for the first game
and kind of get him off schedule,

627
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.199
and we caught the right protection and
the thing that people don't see Logan and

628
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:21.039
they slid the our front the right
way to get the matchup we wanted on

629
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.199
the back just before the snap and
was able to free themselves. So worked

630
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:30.599
out well. So your guy like
Watson where the quarterback run game, I

631
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:35.440
mean improvisational or some somebody design.
They ran a quarterback counter, you know

632
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.719
with him for example. I mean, how how much more difficult does it

633
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:43.159
make it when you get a guy
like Chubb and can be complimented like a

634
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.719
guy like Watson until mobile. Well, it's just once the quarterback becomes a

635
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.480
runner, you're they can out number
of blocking guys and you need to take

636
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.840
the post safety out of the post
or the quarter sit, you know,

637
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:59.239
whatever you're doing. So it forces
us to do different things and you know

638
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.280
we'll certainly get We're very aware of
that. That's what's coming this week against

639
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.599
the Ravens. So you know it's
not something we're not used to. It's

640
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.360
just when it's you're not one hundred
percent sure when it's coming. You know,

641
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.880
we gotta be on our We gotta
be on our on our game to

642
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.639
to know when and where and how
we're supposed to stop it and fit it.

643
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.960
Zach Carter seemed relentless and disruptive at
times. Do you like the track

644
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.840
he's on the growthy showing. I
was very pleased with Zach. Essay,

645
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.519
he played like a a grown man
out there. As the guys like to

646
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:31.559
say, Uh you know, he
was stout at the point of attack,

647
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:37.639
and uh you know he he was. I was very pleased you your defensive

648
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:43.000
football team. Unfortunately, as the
way the game unfolded, you're on You're

649
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.440
on the field a lot. I
mean, seventy two snaps, forty rushes

650
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.840
Like you said, I mean,
when you're when you're you're winding, you're

651
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.239
grinding it and stopping that run,
and you know you're gonna run around and

652
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:57.360
chase a guy like Watson when you're
rushing the quarterback. I mean, that's

653
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.880
that's definitely a challenge. They have
an eleven minute and forty time and possession

654
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.599
advantage. I mean looked like,
honestly, though, you guys are in

655
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.719
good shape. I mean from a
cardio vasco and football shape standpoint, guys

656
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.119
look pretty damn good. Yeah.
Again, I think Joey and those guys

657
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.280
do a great job getting our guys
ready to go. So it's no surprise.

658
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.239
It was nice. You know.
The rain wasn't great, but it

659
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.559
was it was cool, So if
it was a ninety degree day, it

660
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:27.119
might have been a different story.
But it was cooler up there and we

661
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.639
were able to handle it pretty good. Have you been encouraged throughout camp into

662
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.920
yesterday? You allude to the secondary
and that the safety's Dacks and Nick their

663
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.519
communication they're same page mindset. Do
you like how that's developed? Yeah?

664
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:42.000
Yeah, you know, we still
got a waste to go. There was

665
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.280
a couple of things yesterday we could
have been better on. But yeah,

666
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.679
we're definitely trending in the right direction
for sure. Do you feel like facing

667
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.840
a quarterback like Watson is a precursor? I guess as such to what you

668
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.920
know. Nobody does everything the same. It's not like, okay, well

669
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.559
we're gonna see this exact same look
by personnel, grouping, formation, whatever,

670
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:07.960
and and everybody has different skill sets
and tape talents and and all that,

671
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:14.679
but having experienced a quarterback like Watson
right before, you play a quarterback

672
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:16.800
like Jackson. Anything to that.
Well, I mean they're great athletes and

673
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.840
uh you know, similar but different
at the same time. Lamar is still

674
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.960
special, special athlete with the ball
in his hand and so it was Deshaun

675
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.480
to his in his own way.
So but it helps, you know,

676
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.599
it helps, But they are they
are different too, right, They've they've

677
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.239
got a different offensive coordinator this year
and Todd Monkin. Do you do expect

678
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:42.679
them to be much different from from
an offensive standpoint? Yeah, just looking

679
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.519
at the first game, you can
see his certainly his uh imprints on it.

680
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:50.880
But they still have the raven offense
too, you know where they're gonna

681
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:53.000
try to bludgeon you in the running
game, you know, and the big

682
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:57.360
bodies getting around on pullers and schemes
and this that and the other thing.

683
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.639
So, uh, they they they
certainly have have what Todd likes to do,

684
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.400
but there's some elements of what they've
always done too. You know.

685
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:09.360
It's interesting, Like when you were
just talking about their run game. Dobbin's

686
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.280
unfortunately he's got the achilles injury,
so he's he's been They've got plenty of

687
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:17.840
others they do backs in that stable. But you mentioned offensive linemen out there

688
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.199
in space trying to bludgeon your getting
just like Cleveland. I mean, they're

689
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.440
pulling those guards and doing that.
There's there's some again it's not identical,

690
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.760
but there are some similarities to carry
over from one week to the next.

691
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:31.960
Maybe AFC North right, Yeah,
I mean, you know, we know

692
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:36.519
what we're dealing with, and we
got tough guys. You watch Cam,

693
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:42.320
uh, Cam Teller, brit He
took on Wyatt Teller and and Cam ended

694
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.920
up on top. You know,
pretty impressive. I was proud of him.

695
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:52.119
He's one tough SLB. So he
played a really good game yesterday.

696
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.719
Huh. That's that's the thing.
I mean, when you get a chance

697
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.679
to really study, h take take
a look at what guys did, the

698
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.320
effort that they gave you and everything. I mean they were. There are

699
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.679
a lot of winning performance stuff.
People say, oh, come on,

700
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:08.920
man, you know, look look
at the score. What are you talking

701
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:14.800
about. There's twenty two guys out
there, and you know a lot of

702
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:19.880
guys are winning their battles and not
everybody does. And that's sometimes the difference

703
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.559
in a successful or not successful play. But I mean, I've been in

704
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:27.800
situations where you know, we lost
by like thirty points and you look at

705
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.800
a guy, it's like, damn, this dude, he played the best

706
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.400
game of his career and unfortunately he
was part of a thirty point loss.

707
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.960
But it certainly didn't reflect on his
individual performance. That happens a lot,

708
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.000
didn't it. Yeah, I think
so. You know, just the good

709
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:44.679
news is the things we a little
bit short on are easily fixed, ye

710
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.119
you know, and uh, you
know, the guys will be. They're

711
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.159
already back in there lifting and running
and hungry to get onto next week.

712
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.639
So that's what's important. I always
appreciate you making time for us. Best

713
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.239
to luck this week, my pleasure. Guys, get a man coach.

714
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.000
Thanks lou An A Robo. Take
time out to continue Bengals Line First Star

715
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:07.000
Logistics Bengals or Radio Network. It's
seven hundred w l W. Hey we

716
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.760
continue on to this Monday night.
We're talking Bengals looking back on the Ravens

717
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.280
game, or looking ahead of looking
back on the Brown's game, look at

718
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.480
ahead of those Baltimore Ravens. Later
on in our third hour tonight, it's

719
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:20.119
Bengals line in the first Star Logistics
Bengals Radio Network. I'm Lance but catalyster

720
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.760
hanging out with Dave Lapham. Yes, sir, Lance, did your high

721
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.360
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past weekend? You can nominate your coach

722
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.519
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723
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:35.760
dot com slash Coach of the Week
stock offensive Line. It starts up front,

724
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.159
we go inside the locker room.
Here's Dave with Ted Carriss. Like

725
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.880
I said earlier, I have no
adjective to describe the lack of production,

726
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:49.840
lack of execution, and we needed
we need to be way better moving forward.

727
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:52.840
Ted, one thing that did offensive
News take care of the football,

728
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:58.400
didn't turn the football over. You
know that's one one building block, but

729
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:00.440
not a whole lot. Obviously,
Well what do you You just study the

730
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.760
tape, learn and move on.
Right, That's what we're gonna do,

731
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:06.199
Dave. Yep, We're got Baltimore
coming to town, so we need a

732
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.800
big week and I need to get
a victory. What was I mean?

733
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:13.360
Obviously Cleveland was very very aggressive with
everything they did. I mean they were

734
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:17.480
bringing a lot of pressure they were
playing aggressive coverage? Was the rain of

735
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.639
factor there? Did they think?
You know what, you know it's going

736
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.400
to be hard to throw the ball
and throw the ball deep. Let's just

737
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.400
play it this way. I mean
rain, rain can be a factor.

738
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.199
I think we just need to execute. You know, our defense is execute

739
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.480
and they gave us a lot of
chances to win the game. We didn't

740
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:37.199
do it. What do you think? And I know you just get off

741
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.360
off the field and a battle where
a lot of things in your head right

742
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.840
now and you're trying to you can't
remember snap after snap, But what do

743
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:49.079
you what do you think is something
to build off as an offensive football team?

744
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.440
Learn from this? No know how
much we have to execute to be

745
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.519
successful. And you know the margin
barry is very slim in this league.

746
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.760
So we go back, get and
get a new play into the Ravens and

747
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.960
be ready to go and pay him. And finally, uh, you know,

748
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.280
you guys went to the Super Bowl
two years ago, went to the

749
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.239
SC Championship game last year and lost
in Cleveland both times. Don't throw the

750
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:14.719
baby out with the bathwater, right, I mean, it's one football game.

751
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:16.639
Yeah, we're not gonna you know, no, one's no one's freaking

752
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.519
out, but you know, we
have to take a look at ourselves and

753
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.760
get better, get ready to go
for Baltimore. Ted Carriss after the game,

754
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.559
Dave, what did you think overall
of the performance of the offensive line.

755
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:30.400
Yeah, I think there was some
you know, communication things to iron

756
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:37.320
out. Ted made reference to that, U there was some communication issues between

757
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:44.440
It sounded like from a recognition h
standpoint, making sure a quarterback and lyman

758
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:49.199
and everybody's on the same page.
I remember one time Joe Burrow put his

759
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.679
hands on his hips and looked at
one of them like, you know,

760
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:53.719
really, I mean, did did
were you supposed to do? That?

761
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:58.559
Was that what was supposed to take
place? Somebody missed a call or whatever.

762
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.559
And that happens particularly up there with
the Dog Mountain, it being so

763
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:07.119
loud and everything. So with with
the fact that they hadn't played together as

764
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.840
a group, the five of them
taking many snaps or really any for the

765
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.840
most part all through preseason, with
their quarterback just a very limited number.

766
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:21.239
For sure, all of that plays
into it, and I think they're gonna

767
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:25.239
be light years better in that regard
in this football game against the Baltimore Ravens.

768
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:30.800
And honestly, when when that's taken
place, when the communication isn't firm

769
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:36.039
and solid and cohesive, now you're
a little bit unsure. You're a little

770
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:38.679
bit tender. Worst thing in the
world, particular one of defense is playing

771
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.719
as well as Cleveland w give give
a fan who's never been an offensive linement

772
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:47.400
some insight when it comes to communication. What might be what's something that might

773
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.239
be communicated that needs to be communicated
depth at that time. Okay, so

774
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:59.280
a lot of times, UH,
slide protection. It'll if if the center

775
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.360
makes a call, all that dictates
the entire line is supposed to slide,

776
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.880
and it doesn't get communicated all the
way out to the tackle, and the

777
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.119
center and guard slide and the tackle
doesn't. Now you're double team in the

778
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:14.719
defenseman and the blitzer comes because the
center recognized something, and it's like this

779
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:16.880
is the tendency that they have,
and all of a sudden you have a

780
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.800
free runner and you have two guys
blocking one, and those those are the

781
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:23.800
kind of things that can happen and
uh, and you want to try to

782
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:29.400
avoid at all costs. What have
you what's been your your your thoughts on

783
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:34.159
throughout camp? The transition that Joan
is making to right tackle, he seems

784
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:38.960
to have come around to accepting it
and embracing it, understanding the versatility he

785
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.079
can show and the opportunities that may
come after this season. How do you

786
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.039
think he's looked in that transition.
Yeah, I think I think he's playing

787
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:52.400
pretty well. I really do.
Again, though there's I can I can

788
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:58.719
tell you that I'm old school in
this regard, but there's nothing, no

789
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:04.159
substitute for time on task in a
live game situation, having all five linemen

790
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.719
working together as one and trying to
get uh to the point where you are

791
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.559
one. Like I always talk about
making the fist. You know, it's

792
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:16.840
five components, four fingers and wrap
four fingers, curl the thumb, boom

793
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:22.239
in voluntary reaction. Strong. Now
in the game, you know, as

794
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.280
a offensive line, if you've got
four or three, you don't have a

795
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:29.440
very strong fis. You don't have
a fist, you don't have that power.

796
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:36.519
So that's that's that's time on task
that comes with familiarity doing it over

797
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.039
and over again. And you can
do it in practice and go through the

798
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.079
mental reps and practice all you want, but in a in a game environment,

799
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.440
in a game condition, It's just
it's a little bit different. And

800
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:51.840
until you go through that and experience
that and get confidence that you know,

801
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.880
everybody is going to be doing exactly
what they're supposed to do when they're supposed

802
00:52:54.920 --> 00:53:00.679
to do it. And and like
my feeling was in verbalized it, they're

803
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:06.960
gonna be much better at the end
of September than they were yesterday as an

804
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.079
offensive line. And it's going to
continue to ramp up. And was it

805
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.239
was it like, oh my god, was it you know, horrendous?

806
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.199
No, but there was definitely some
things to clean up and to improve on.

807
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.039
There's no question. Hang tight,
we're still getting revveed up. We

808
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.760
got a lot more to get to
before we're done. At nine o'clock tonight,

809
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.760
up next to you here from Jamar
Chase, Cam Taylor Britt Later on

810
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.079
of the Hour and so much more, Dave Blapham, Lance Pcalister, Thanks

811
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:34.639
for being with us tonight. It's
Bengals Line. We're on the first Star

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Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred
WLW. Hey welcome back in on this

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Monday night to Bengals Line on the
first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. Recapping

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00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.639
the Brown's game yesterday. We'll get
into those Ravens coming up in our third

815
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:52.000
hour tonight. I'm Lance Pcalister.
He is Dave Lapham and Lance to Cincinnati.

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Jamar Chase targeted nine times yesterday by

820
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.440
Joe Burrow, connected five times for
thirty nine yards a long of twelve.

821
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.719
Here's Jamar after the game. I
mean, we didn't get a lot of

822
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.360
stuff going away, you know what
I'm saying. We had a couple of

823
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:30.760
job passes on boats and which was
again arrest a couple of times, I'm

824
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.920
Sam, and we just didn't execute
when we had it. Looks, what

825
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.400
about their defense? They seemed to
be real aggressive and what they were doing

826
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.320
in terms of pressure and in coverage
with was the weather a factor there?

827
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.920
They decided to get more aggressive?
Do you think not? Really? We

828
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:49.000
already knew the game plan for the
eight defense. What we had we already

829
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.000
was expecting it. They did exactly
what we was expecting. Like I said,

830
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:55.719
we just didn't take advantage of the
opportunity that they gave us. What

831
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:59.599
do you think? Can you get
your finger on why you guys just more

832
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.400
your self today? I don't know
if he I don't know. I don't

833
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:08.159
even not answer that brou Honestly,
I'm trying to figure out kind of how

834
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:13.519
to get the game. Really just
man teach, trying to see what looks

835
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:15.559
we could get. They played off, They trying to run out. You

836
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:20.199
know what I'm saying. We she's
trying to tell him, we'll be seeing

837
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:22.880
you know what I'm saying. He
got rushed a couple of times. We

838
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:27.360
can get the ball to us,
so settle for up a bad pass on

839
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.199
his pucause of the rush, or
I throw it in the dirt. How

840
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:35.440
did you howdy? What how come
it looked good to me? How't me?

841
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:38.559
I didn't see nothing? You've seen
something that I ain't see nothing.

842
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:43.400
You're gonna be something. Team last
year started open too, and you guys

843
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.320
still made the XC Championship. We
know slow starts are going through derail the

844
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.159
season, but just stop frustrating.
Is it to had to build up,

845
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.119
start the season, come here and
not play. It's frustrating because I called

846
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:57.079
the ass elves and we just lost
it some ELFs. So I'm pissed on

847
00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:00.679
my party. I'm not I'm pissed
on all on that. And like I

848
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.039
said, man, we got missed
out. But tunis we didn't capitalize me

849
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:05.519
and we lost. So that's how
we lost. With that said, you

850
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.679
went to the Super Bowl two years
ago, go to the SC Championship last

851
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.880
year and didn't be Cleveland up here
both both years. You don't throw the

852
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:15.079
baby out with the bathwater right this
one game. Yeah, I'm not doing

853
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:16.280
all that. You know what I'm
saying. I'm trying to my party and

854
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:20.320
dude, I can do for the
team. So I'm pissed that other stuff.

855
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:23.079
John's every point about it. I
guess with all else stuff and all

856
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.880
that, what did you make up
all that? He just wanted to have

857
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:31.119
some attention, So he just know
what I'm saying, prepared on you for

858
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:35.840
the for the blueback when it might
come with the comments you mad result of

859
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:37.920
this game, We're blowback. Man. If you say if they got a

860
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.960
problem with me saying something I'm saying
right now, he's soft if they soft

861
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.360
with me saying else and they's softening
Jamar after the game and firing one final

862
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:50.760
shot at the perhaps at the end. If they're soft or if they don't

863
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:52.440
like it, then they're soft.
Yeah, they're soft. That's all there

864
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:57.480
is to it. It is.
It is amazing to look in that pass

865
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:02.800
a pass receiving category over to LG. Long and see twelve yards being the

866
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:07.760
longest, and there was a pat
would it was an eighteen yard. But

867
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.719
man, you think of that and
think of how good they've been at the

868
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:14.960
in past years. And I know
Joe may have led in thirty yard completions

869
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.800
are more last season. Just twelve
yesterday. That's staggering. It is it

870
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.119
is. I looked up the longest
plays and the miscellaneous stats portion of the

871
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:28.880
of the statueets and the Bengals had
one play of twenty two yards of twenty

872
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.800
yards more twenty two yard run Joe
Joe Mixon. The next longest play is

873
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:39.239
that twelve yard pass from from from
Borrow and Joe Mixon had a twelve yard

874
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:43.599
run the very next snap. He
went twenty two and twelve year yes,

875
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:46.320
back to back runs of thirty four
yards and then nothing happened. I mean,

876
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:51.800
they just squad douche. But they
only had five plays of ten yards

877
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.360
more in the whole game. They
had a twenty two yard run from Joe

878
00:57:55.480 --> 00:58:00.800
Mixon, They had the twelve yard
completion from Borrow, another twelve yard run

879
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:06.400
by Joe Mixon, and two more
ten yard completions from Joe Burrow. And

880
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:08.719
that is it. Five plays of
ten yards and more. I mean,

881
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:15.880
come on, man, Cleveland.
They had a thirty three yard completion,

882
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:21.440
two more, They had a twenty
yard completion to Cooper, and then Moore

883
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:23.880
had a rush for nineteen yards.
And they had a couple of seventeen yard

884
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:28.079
plays, a fifteen yard played,
multiple thirteen yard plays. They had,

885
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.800
you know, ten plays of thirteen
yards of war, and they didn't dominate.

886
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:37.239
The Bengals did a good job of
limiting explosive plays by the Cleveland Browns

887
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:42.960
as well. But five plays of
ten yards and more in an entire football

888
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.840
game for this offense, for this
football team, one play of twenty yards

889
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:53.760
and more. And I mean,
your longest reception is courtesy of past interference.

890
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:59.519
That's crazy. Dave. I looked
at looking at the next gen breakdown

891
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.280
of where Joe threw the ball.
There weren't a lot of throws over the

892
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:06.000
middle of the certainly down the field, and there weren't a lot of throws

893
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.079
over the middle of the field.
Was that Is that something that the Browns

894
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:13.320
took away, something the Bengals didn't
try to do. What do you make

895
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:15.559
of that? That's a good question. It might be a combination of both.

896
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.039
You know, Joe might felt might
have felt more comfortable, I mean,

897
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.280
or they they decided, you know
what, with the safeties that they

898
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:29.119
got. But Thornhill, he didn't
even play, and when he wasn't when

899
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:32.880
he was an active there was a
lot of concern up in the press box

900
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:37.800
from the media anyway, because he
had had a heck of a camp and

901
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:40.360
they were a man down back there, but still played exceptionally well. I

902
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:44.480
mean, I just remember saying in
the in the second half, how about

903
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:46.159
if we just throw the ball deep
just to loosen them up a couple of

904
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.719
just throw it deep or a time
or two. And the first time they

905
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.159
threw a deep got the pass interference
penalty, and then threw another one like

906
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:58.280
right away. It was the first
drive in the second half. They forced

907
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:00.719
Cleveland to go three. Now Bengals
get the football and they go down the

908
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:06.079
field a couple of times. Because
it had been screens, perimeter passes,

909
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:09.679
it had been dink and dunk to
the it was like you're playing football in

910
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:14.639
a closet, like we talked about
before, and with the weapons and everything

911
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:16.360
you got here, I mean,
let's challenge him a little bit. I

912
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:22.599
mean's let's uh, let's let's air
it out. So hopefully that that occurs

913
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.880
and it's gonna be That's something I
think you gotta do. You have to

914
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:30.960
challenge the entire football field. You
can't let the Baltimore Ravens lock in and

915
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:36.960
play top down and not have to
worry about things behind them much more to

916
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:38.840
get to in this hour earlier than
they are. You heard lou Anna Rumo

917
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:43.360
call Cam Taylor brit One tough s
ob. We'll hear from that one.

918
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:46.119
Tough s ob, Cam Taylor Britt. As we continue in this hour,

919
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:50.199
our second of three tonight, it's
Bengals Line. We're on the first Star

920
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:55.760
Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred
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921
01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:00.559
under this Monday night. We're making
our way through three hours of Bengals conversation

922
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.760
from yesterday and I'll look ahead to
this Sunday. All of that to be

923
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.599
covered between now nine o'clock. It's
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924
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.280
show and it's on the first Star
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925
01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:15.719
ter along with Dave Lapham and Bengals
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926
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:22.039
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927
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:28.119
locations this season, go to Bengals
dot com slash community. Let's talk secondary

928
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:32.440
Cam. Taylor Britt played seventy three
of a possible seventy four defensive snaps yesterday.

929
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.840
Let's go inside the locker room.
Here's Kim Taylor Britt with Dan horror

930
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:42.199
Cam. It's a team game,
but I thought the defense played reasonably well.

931
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:44.800
What do you think? I felt
like we did. But most definitely

932
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:47.079
I feel like, also the office
can't get the bond ins on. I

933
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:50.719
feel like we need to step on
and trying to get into insus. You

934
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:52.559
know what doesn't get an interceptions listen, trying to take a beat man.

935
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.360
We get us fumbles. Let's trying
to think about let's you know, Chinese

936
01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:58.360
and narrative of a game. You
know, on defense, you know,

937
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.320
in the positive way. I did
have a couple of takeaways, Dax had

938
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:05.559
his first career pick. Yeah,
I guess those were the biggest positives.

939
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:07.159
So the defensive prospected out that.
Yeah, most definitely. I thought,

940
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.559
you know, tiptoe down the sideline, told him like, go get in

941
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:13.199
the end zone. Man. But
and I I see he'll go get it

942
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.440
next time there. I said,
I'm a most shocking when Joe and the

943
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:20.000
offense struggle to the extent that they
did today. Work tell you to say,

944
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.079
so, you know, just because
we see it every day. You

945
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:23.840
know, it doesn't matter, uh, the the situation as far as like

946
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:25.599
the weather or anything, but we
see it every day, you know,

947
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.960
and not to see that, you
know, it is what it is.

948
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:30.159
You know, we know he'll come
back next week because you know, play

949
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.159
like this. And when did you
get the sense that this just wasn't going

950
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:37.239
you know, it wasn't going to
be the Bengal stay. I say,

951
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:40.920
four quarter, I've finish game.
So I didn't never think that throughout the

952
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:45.320
whole game until two minutes left,
three minutes left. You know, when

953
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:46.519
I've seen those you know, honestly
out of reach, then uh, we

954
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:51.400
couldn't have any more possessions or anything. So yeah, yeah, it started

955
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:53.440
owing two last year and you got
a chance to avoid that next week and

956
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:58.760
this next week's game. Take on
a little added juice. It's always got

957
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:00.360
a juice mass and it's the vid
the game. We felt like that this

958
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:05.199
game as well. And then he
just got the better hand of us Kam

959
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:07.559
Taylor Britt after the game. And
you know, when we were sitting here

960
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:09.480
with Lou, I like it.
There's sometimes he hit on a play or

961
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:14.360
a player and Lou's eyes will spark
a little bit and you could see a

962
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.400
little spark in his eye when he
talked about Cam Taylor Britton and for those

963
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:19.880
who missed it earlier, he said
he's one tough s ob. He went,

964
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:23.360
he'll go nose to nose with anybody
on the field. And Wyatt Taylor,

965
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:28.840
this beast. Wyatt Taylor is a
full grown man. Uh And and

966
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:35.639
that's exactly what Cam Taylor Brit was
called by his defensive coordinator. And because

967
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:37.880
he ended up on top of Wyatt
Taylor on a big collision. So that

968
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:44.119
that that's getting it done. Why
Taylor probe Wyatt Taylor a pro bowler.

969
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.840
They've got Joel Bettonio a pro bowler. That tantem of guards is as good

970
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.599
as they're gonna facing the National Football
League. Pulling and getting into the perimeter

971
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:57.559
and working against the smaller edge people. The Cleveland Browns look at that as

972
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:00.360
a as a big advantage as do
the ball to more ravens. So they're

973
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.320
gonna have to step up on the
on the back end again. When they're

974
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:08.039
the edge guy and they got run
support on the edge, they have to

975
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:13.679
battle the big beasts and you know, at least stalemate that block. If

976
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:15.760
you're gonna give yourself up one for
one, you don't want to get dominated

977
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.039
one for one and make it tough
on your teammates. At least, you

978
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:24.400
know, make that wash and then
your teammates can pursue inside out and make

979
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.960
plays for you. Well, you
see what Cam did yesterday, Dex He'll

980
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.599
gets his first interception and you see
those young guys and the the the growth

981
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:34.000
potential and the way they're the arrow
is putting on their graph. It gets

982
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.800
you awfully excited. Asn't it.
It does. I mean I think that

983
01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:42.239
uh, you know, Nick Scott, I thought played well back there.

984
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:47.840
I thought the communication between the safeties
looked pretty good. So he's the old

985
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.840
guy back there going into his fifth
year. Everybody else is you know,

986
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:57.719
a kid, uh, second year
player but missed most of the first year

987
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.199
due to the injury. You know, you got rookies. You got second

988
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:05.760
year player Cambridge who started about half
the season and really came on strong.

989
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:11.000
And now year two is gonna be
a big I think jump for him,

990
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:15.039
a big growth year. And he's
already shown that. So they're they're they're

991
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.039
young, but they're talented, there's
no question. Boy. And you mentioned

992
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:20.519
Nick and you hit him on your
on your show on Friday, and he

993
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:25.039
sounds like, well he's only five
years and he sounds like a wily veteran.

994
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:28.760
He's a guy who who gets it
and just the perspective he offers as

995
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:32.079
somebody who sees the big picture of
all of it. Yeah. And the

996
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:36.599
super Bowl winner yep, you know, and and that that's cred with young

997
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:41.159
players. Oh man, the guys, he his team, they went to

998
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:44.079
the Super Bowl and they wont it. Wow, this guy's world champion.

999
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:45.960
I'm gonna listen to this guy,
and he's a good guy to listen to

1000
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:49.679
because he gets it. He gets
it on every level. I mean,

1001
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:55.679
he knows how to prepare. He's
he's very football intelligent. He's very intelligent

1002
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:59.400
overall. Uh, he's a good
leader, a good communicator. He's a

1003
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.280
good guy. Emulate, there's no
question about it. We've hit on offense,

1004
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:04.639
We've hit on defense. What do
you say we spend a little bit

1005
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:09.000
of time on special teams. When
we continue and wrap up our second of

1006
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:12.159
three hours, Thanks for being here
with us tonight, hang out. We've

1007
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.960
got much more to unfold. It's
Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals

1008
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:21.239
Radio Network and seven hundred WLW.
Hey, welcome back. We're heading down

1009
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:26.000
the stretch about to put the wraps
on two hour or two of three tonight.

1010
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:29.039
The show is Bengals Line. We're
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1011
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.480
Network. Lance Pcalister along with Dave
Lapham. Thanks for hanging out with us

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01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:35.719
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Teams. Brad Robbins, the new guy,

1016
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:55.280
the new punter. Certainly his legs
probably saw today punny ten times and

1017
01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:58.199
it was a I thought it was
a mixed bag. There were some moments

1018
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:00.519
he said, oh yeah, and
then there was some moments he oh no,

1019
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.519
right, yeah, I agree.
You know, on the one,

1020
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:08.559
Darren Simmons wanted him to pin him, you know, back inside the twenty,

1021
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:13.199
hopefully inside the ten yard line,
and uh Dan made mention of it

1022
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.960
during the game at mission. He
had no touch about that, and then

1023
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:20.119
he got one in his first NFL
game on that particular punt. Ten punts.

1024
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:24.920
Though you'd hope a rookie wouldn't punt
ten times in the first month of

1025
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:28.800
his career. He's putting ten times
in one game. And I agree.

1026
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:30.960
I thought as I saw him boarding
the plane, I thought he had a

1027
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:34.519
limp. That right leg looked a
little longer than the left. Had hitch

1028
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:39.360
him to get along and he stretched
that bad boy out. He also had

1029
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:44.000
a fifty four yard or did have
a The one was almost it was a

1030
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.199
low snap and almost got blocked,
but he got it off at time.

1031
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.599
Yeah, and that that one was
that one was close, and uh,

1032
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:54.440
you know, there was one that
kind of sliced off the outside of his

1033
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:59.480
foot a little bit, but you
know, it's it's gonna happen. He

1034
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.760
he was definitely the thing I like
about him. He comes to the sideline

1035
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:10.440
and Darren either I'm not sure if
he's in some cases giving him compliments.

1036
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.400
I know in a lot of cases
he's dressing him down and Robbins will just

1037
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:18.840
fold his hands behind his back and
stand and look and take it all in.

1038
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:23.319
And then when Darren's done, he'll
nod, turn around and walk away.

1039
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:27.079
And Darren walks away and it's over, you know. And he bottom

1040
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.760
line is my point, he takes
coaching and he takes it well. I

1041
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:33.920
mean he doesn't. He's not offended
by his take it personally, you know,

1042
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:38.479
darn he knows Darren Simmons is trying
to make him as good a player

1043
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:42.439
as he possibly can be, huh. And he handles that part of it

1044
01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:46.960
well. Rookie Charlie Jones on punt
returns backtrack and I don't know if if

1045
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.720
he lost track of where he was, but fielded one and around the six,

1046
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:53.479
and then the one that really jumped
out to me, he tried to

1047
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:57.319
run horizontally and he almost felt like
he reached one of those moments where he

1048
01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:59.840
said, oh crap, this isn't
the big ten anymore, and I'm not

1049
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:02.960
tried to outrace like Iowa Nebraska from
sideline to sideline to get the corner.

1050
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:08.359
And he never got the quarner.
Right, Yeah, that's that's an AHA

1051
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.439
moment. These guys, there's a
bunch of them. Yeah, run not

1052
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:15.560
just a guy. Everybody runs in
the National Football League. And they're pretty

1053
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:18.800
big, pretty good sized guys.
Yeah, it's uh, it's a cut

1054
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:23.960
above. There's no doubt Evan.
Evan missed the fifty one year oder could

1055
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:27.239
have cut it to think that would
have cut it to ten six, and

1056
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:30.399
they never did. That was a
chance to get some points after a turnover,

1057
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.920
and they never did get points after
the two turnovers. Yeah, on

1058
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:38.279
each could have cut it to ten
six there, but but missed the fifty

1059
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:43.039
one yarder and and really at that
point, I thought, Okay, returned

1060
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:45.199
the ball to the fifty you got
you got half a field and negotiate for

1061
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.720
a touch on let's let's get after
it here. Let's get right back in

1062
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:53.159
this football game. Tie this thing
up. It's the second half, you

1063
01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:58.279
know, shake off that first half, Blues make adjustments and uh, you

1064
01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:00.880
know, six plays for seventeen year
yards. That's about what they were.

1065
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:04.319
They were under three yards of play
for the game. That's about what they

1066
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:10.039
were doing on a drive by drive
basis. I mean, that's just incredible.

1067
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:14.760
One hundred and forty two yards and
fifty four snaps two point six yards,

1068
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:18.520
just a little over two and a
half yards of play. Man with

1069
01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:24.800
with all the all the players that
you look out there in the huddle and

1070
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:29.920
think, when's it gonna happen?
When they're gonna they're gonna get it together

1071
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.039
and there's gonna be an explosive drive
here somewhere. Yes, it's gonna be

1072
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:36.159
an explosive play somewhere, and it
never did come to fruition. That is

1073
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:40.079
two in the books. How about
our number three. We'll circle back around

1074
01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:43.560
talk a little bit about the much
talked about approach to camp and whether the

1075
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:46.479
starters had enough time to get ramped
up. We'll get into Joe signing the

1076
01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:50.800
big deal over the weekend officially preview
those Baltimore Ravens. Maybe take a look

1077
01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:54.960
at the rest of the AFC North
as well the Steelers performance. Speaking of

1078
01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:58.000
teams who did play a lot of
the starters during training camp, but it

1079
01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:00.880
didn't go so well for the Steelers
yesterday. We'll look at that and so

1080
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:03.800
much more to get to table Apple, Lance Pacalister, thanks for being here

1081
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:08.119
with us. The third and final
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away we go our third hour tonight. Thanks for hanging out with us.

1088
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:46.359
It's Bengals Line, We're on the
first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven

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hundred WLW. Lance Pacalister, Day
Black when we spent the first two hours

1090
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:54.199
hearing from coaches and players and talking
a lot about the Browns game. A

1091
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.520
little bit more on that in this
hour. We'll get into those Baltimore Ravens

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com. All right, Dave,
let's go big picture here. You know,

1096
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.960
one of the big topics of conversation
coming out of yesterday continues to be

1097
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:21.840
the approach to camp, the approach
to the preseason. If it if it

1098
01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:26.840
didn't position the Bengals well enough for
yesterday. You've watched camps year and in

1099
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:29.520
year out over the years, in
the in the decades, and the approach

1100
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.239
to pre how much of a role
did it play? Did it play a

1101
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:36.239
role in the performance yesterday? In
your opinion, that's a good question.

1102
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:41.960
I mean, I don't know if
I have a whole answer on that,

1103
01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:46.079
because you know, Joe Burrow's calf
injury is a huge variable, yep in

1104
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:54.119
that thing. But specifically from an
offensive line standpoint, playing next to guys

1105
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:58.359
on either side of me, I
feel I would feel much more comfortable going

1106
01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:04.119
into a game against a defensive front
like the Cleveland Browns were presenting having worked

1107
01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:11.159
in a live situation, being a
preseason game against number ones from the other

1108
01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:15.239
opponent. And that was always the
case when we played. I mean,

1109
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.880
we would play six preseason games and
the starters would play a half into the

1110
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:25.119
third quarter, well over half.
In my second year was seven because of

1111
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:29.239
the Hall of Fame game, and
they were playing starters. We played the

1112
01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:31.880
Washington Redskins, and I don't think
they had a guy in there roster that

1113
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:36.840
didn't have fifteen years experience, So
George Allen had no choice but to play

1114
01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:41.960
like Ron mcgol and all these guys, you know, Diron Talbot, those

1115
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:44.600
are the guys I was playing against. I mean, I'm out there a

1116
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.039
Stott Knows kid, you know,
like twenty three years old, and these

1117
01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:50.560
guys could be my dad. You
know. It's like they're into their late

1118
01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:55.680
thirties. You know, they're playing, they're playing defensive tackle, old man

1119
01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:58.960
strength, and those guys could play. But but yeah, I mean,

1120
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:04.600
that's that's kind of you know what
what I remember and envisioned getting ready for

1121
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:10.279
the season. So in my opinion, it's not a shock when I see

1122
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:14.920
that that they're not at the level
that you need to be to start the

1123
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:19.600
season because they haven't really experienced it
yet. And and now the first four

1124
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:25.079
weeks of the regular season, in
my estimation, are equivalent to the first

1125
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:28.920
you know, they're like the six
preseason games that we played, so just

1126
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:34.319
about the first month of the National
Football League season in my mind is it

1127
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:38.840
was that way anyway, you're always
going to improve, but the way they

1128
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:44.399
handle exhibition games now it's, uh, it's you definitely are going to be

1129
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:47.000
a much better team in October November
than you were in September. And let's

1130
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:53.359
also remember, for those who say
that was the sole reason Joe bur whether

1131
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:56.640
whether Zach decided, no matter what
Zach decided, had he played them all,

1132
01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:59.640
they were going to be playing without
Joe Burrow for five weeks. So

1133
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:02.720
for those who complained about maybe the
timing was off between Joe and his wide

1134
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:06.239
receivers, playing them during the preseason
without Joe wasn't going to fix that.

1135
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:11.079
They would have been playing with Trevor
Simeon and Jake Browning during the preseason,

1136
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:15.000
right and you know you could say, oh, well, maybe the offensive

1137
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:17.840
line if they played together in the
preseason, could have given Joe Moore time

1138
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:23.039
and taking care of business a little
bit more and made it easier easier for

1139
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:28.279
Joe. Bottom line is when Joe
was thrown the football because of the drizzle

1140
01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:31.159
and everything in the conditions in the
game, I mean, it wasn't his

1141
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:35.640
most accurate day anyway. So I
mean you factor in that variable, you

1142
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:41.159
factor in the variable that they hadn't
played. There's and let me tell you,

1143
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:46.000
when you've got twenty two players going
against each other, there's a massive

1144
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:50.159
amount of variables on a snap by
snap basis. And like you said,

1145
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:55.600
Pittsburgh, I mean Tomlin played his
guys, they got smoked. I mean

1146
01:15:55.640 --> 01:16:00.760
you're gonna find and early in the
season it's when upsets occur. Uh,

1147
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.680
It's there's no question about it.
And teams will lose games in the early

1148
01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:06.920
stage and the season like how they
how they As the season wears on and

1149
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:11.960
everybody kind of settles into what they
are and who they are, people looked

1150
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:15.560
at how they lose that game,
Well, they weren't that football team.

1151
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:19.680
They weren't playing at that level at
that point in time. But it is

1152
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:25.840
this this one is so frustrating because
it's not just that they lost the game,

1153
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:30.840
It is how they lost the game. They look so bad offensively.

1154
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:34.399
Uh, you know, averaging two
point six yards per play, I mean

1155
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:40.399
two point per snap, not per
rush. That's that's that's a bad day

1156
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:43.880
at the office if you can't run
the ball for better than two point six

1157
01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:46.920
but per snap with these guys,
Wow, let me ask you. Let

1158
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:50.039
me ask you a dumb question.
When it comes to rain, how much

1159
01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:54.159
And I'm trying to remember and I
wasn't you were out there every day.

1160
01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:56.800
I was certainly not out there every
day, But I'm trying to remember how

1161
01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.239
much it actually rained during camp?
How much can you simulate playing in the

1162
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:04.279
rain in terms of yeah, you
can't make it rain. You can't tell

1163
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:06.960
my other natred rain. But you
mentioned the dunking of the balls and the

1164
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:12.000
how much preparature simulation can be done
for rain, Yeah, I mean it's

1165
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:16.399
it's difficult because when it's when it's
just that misty rain, it's not it's

1166
01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:20.600
not pouring, it's not torrential,
so the ball doesn't get drenched, it

1167
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:26.920
just gets it just gets like a
slippery slick surface on it, you know,

1168
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:30.279
And and with the resins that are
on the ball. And you see

1169
01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:32.319
the kickers, you know, in
quarterbacks was scrape, scrape, They're scraping

1170
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:38.039
the resin off. They want to
have that that leather feel on their fingertips,

1171
01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:42.239
you know. And uh, and
and my experiences, particularly when I

1172
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.720
was playing center and trying to snap
it when it was just if it was

1173
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.279
soaking wet, no problem. Ball
and dry obviously, no problem. But

1174
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:53.039
man, when it was just a
little bits a little bit wet, it

1175
01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:57.000
was so slippery, I'm telling you
it was. It was amazing. And

1176
01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.680
that was the kind of uh,
the kind of day that it was for

1177
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.720
for the quarterbacks and everybody else yesterday. And let's also Joe Joe. And

1178
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.399
we'll get into Joe and the big
contract and what it means in the next

1179
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:12.600
segment. But Joe is I take
him as somebody who is very meticulous and

1180
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:16.079
reps are important and practice is important, and that wasn't there for a five

1181
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:20.399
week period and you can't you can't
cheat that preparation. And when he came

1182
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:24.840
back in the final ten days,
two weeks whatever, you get up now

1183
01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:28.159
exactly, and you can take all
the mental reps you want. You can

1184
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:33.199
be watching tape and preparing and have
in your head exactly what you're gonna do

1185
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:35.840
and how you're gonna do it.
But if you're in an out there,

1186
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:42.560
not out there getting the muscle memory
of doing it, it's like you can

1187
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:45.279
try to you can try to force
it, you can try to force that

1188
01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:50.960
preparation, but there's there's no substitute
for time on task period. You know,

1189
01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:58.439
time is maybe the most valuable commodity
that ever anybody has in any occupation

1190
01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:01.479
or any walk of life or life
in general. And same for football.

1191
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:04.880
It's like you have to have the
time and then be able to utilize that

1192
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:11.039
time with repetition. Repetition breeds comfort
level, time on task, working with

1193
01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:14.479
the guys you're going to be working
with. It's there's no substitute for it,

1194
01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:16.439
and when you don't have it,
you don't get it. It shows

1195
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:21.079
is there also in conclusion, circling
back around to the opponent, is there

1196
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:26.319
something to be said for if you
were to draw up a bad matchup for

1197
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.800
the Bengals, that bad matchup would
look like the Cleveland Browns. I hear

1198
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:31.680
a lot about that they're just a
bad matchup for him. Is there something

1199
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:36.800
to that? Yeah? I mean
part of it becomes almost like a self

1200
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:42.520
fulfilling prophecy. It's like, man, just haven't played well up there in

1201
01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:45.920
Cleveland, and then you you verbalize
it, and now it's like, Okay,

1202
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:50.840
that's that's a fact, and there's
but but there are I mean,

1203
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:59.119
I think I think the Cleveland Browns
have a sense of uber confidence for whatever

1204
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:03.880
reason against the Cincinnati Bengals, and
the Cincinnati Bengals are this is, you

1205
01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:08.520
know, our Achilles Heel. I
mean, we just we have trouble up

1206
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:14.319
there in Cleveland, and it's just
it does become almost like a self fulfilling

1207
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.640
prophecy, it really does. But
it's crazy. Like I said, they

1208
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:21.399
they got handled up in Cleveland in
the last two years and all they did

1209
01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:25.479
was go to a Super Bowl and
go to the NFC Championship Game. And

1210
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:29.840
it's not That's not to say that
it's gonna happen again. I mean,

1211
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:31.760
you got a lot of work left, that's that's for sure. The first

1212
01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:35.000
thing you got to do is get
over it, put it away, and

1213
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:39.159
move on to the Baltimore Ravens and
make sure you take care of business against

1214
01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:42.439
them, or you'll find yourself.
Oh and two in the Division one at

1215
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:45.439
home one on the road. You
know, the final point on all this

1216
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:48.960
there is the clear the yin and
the yang too don't play the starters in

1217
01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:53.960
the preseason because you don't want anybody
hurt. And that's great and to their

1218
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:58.880
to their credit on this side of
the column, they won their final ten

1219
01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:02.479
last year. They positioned as winners
to in consecutive years go to a Super

1220
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:05.479
Bowl and go to the AFC Championship
games. So it's not like there's no

1221
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:10.640
evidence that the previous plan hadn't worked. So to speak. I get the

1222
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:13.479
frustration that comes with losing in Week
one, and it's easy to say it's

1223
01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:15.680
the preseason and it's a lack about
this and lack of that. Just the

1224
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:21.479
most recent evidence says it worked pretty
well in how they ended seasons. True,

1225
01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:26.960
and again with me, I always
look at, Okay, there are

1226
01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:30.319
losses and then there are losses.
You know, I mean, you lose

1227
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:32.680
football games. And that was a
good game, I mean, good effort

1228
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:39.840
both teams, this one tape,
this this loss, it's like I mean,

1229
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:45.960
but again in our conversation with Lou
and Rumo, defensively they did a

1230
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:49.479
lot of good things. Offensively,
you have to scour the take. To

1231
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:55.640
find good things, you have to
absolutely almost make them up. At least

1232
01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:59.560
they didn't turn it over. There
you go, there's a positive that was

1233
01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:02.199
the big thing was ball security.
There's there are no two ways about it,

1234
01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:09.319
particularly when you look at what we
talked about. Both quarterbacks referenced about

1235
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:13.279
the slickness of the football. All
Right, we come back some thoughts on

1236
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:16.600
Joe Burrow and the big deal as
we continue. He's Dave Lapham, I'm

1237
01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:21.560
Lance Mechanaister Bengals Line in the first
Star Logistics Bengals Radio Networking seven hundred WLW.

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01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:26.560
Let's keep things moving on this Monday
night. Bengals Live or are the

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01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:30.840
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1240
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:35.680
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1241
01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:40.560
You had a wrap up thought on
our discussion in segment one. Yes,

1242
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:46.520
and I really believe in definitely Zach
Taylor's case, It's gonna be hard

1243
01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:53.279
pressed to get him to change his
mind about the concept of playing players starters

1244
01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:57.920
in preseason because he's a Sean mcvagh
disciple, and Sean mcvayh doesn't, and

1245
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:01.760
he is the leader of that hack, of that mentality of starters. And

1246
01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:06.359
Zach Taylor won a super Bowl there, then he comes here and implements it

1247
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:10.000
and goes to the super Bowl,
and then the next year he goes to

1248
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:13.960
the SC Championship gap. So he's
gonna say, what the hell in the

1249
01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:16.680
last handful of years, I won
a super Bowl, I was on a

1250
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:18.720
team that won a Super Bowl.
I was on a team that got to

1251
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:21.159
the Super Bowl, and I was
on a team that got to the FC

1252
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:26.000
Championship game. I believe. I'm
a believer, and you're gonna have a

1253
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:30.000
hard time convincing me otherwise. And
there are a number of teams around the

1254
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:33.359
NFL whose fan bases were probably yelling
when one of their guys got hurt in

1255
01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:38.039
a preseason game. Who would have
said, I can't believe we were playing

1256
01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:41.199
that guy in a preseason game and
now he's done for the season. It's

1257
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:45.520
one of those uh topics, yep, and that you damned if you do

1258
01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.840
and damned if you don't, and
it's just you're just planning the odds and

1259
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:53.680
you're you're hoping you're right. Let's
let's get into some Joe Borrow contract conversation.

1260
01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.520
The big news of the week certainly
of the extension, and he puts

1261
01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:00.000
pen to paper on Saturday. And
I said this earlier in the week.

1262
01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:06.039
It's when when you're in a position
to sign somebody and give them two hundred

1263
01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:12.319
and seventy five million dollars. One, that's staggering. But two, I

1264
01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:15.600
said, if you were the Brown
family or anybody in the organization, you

1265
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:17.560
have to be able to put your
head on the pillow and sleep comfortably at

1266
01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:21.000
night knowing you're giving it to somebody
like Joe Burrow. Yeah, that's true.

1267
01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:29.439
And uh and Joe Burrow has life
changing money for himself, his family,

1268
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:34.039
his foundation that does a lot of
good for kids that need food,

1269
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:38.239
you know, I mean, they're
just hungry. And he does it here

1270
01:24:38.279 --> 01:24:42.359
in Cincinnati, doesn't Athens. He
does it down in Baton Rouge. And

1271
01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:45.159
uh, you know he's going to
do a lot of good things with that

1272
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:48.880
money, There's no question about it. And you're right. The last thing

1273
01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:53.199
an owner would want to do is
give a guy two hundred and seventy five

1274
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:59.600
million and somebody just starts blowing it
on haphazardly, crazy bunch of junk and

1275
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:03.319
to yourself, what the heck?
I mean, that's that's like, that's

1276
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:08.039
that's the worst nightmare. Well,
no coach or owner wants that phone call.

1277
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:10.520
You never want the phone to ring
at one or two in the morning

1278
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:13.439
and it's your security team saying so
and so was in trouble. That's never

1279
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.199
gonna happen with Joe Burrow. Absolutely, I mean, Joe Burrow is uh,

1280
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:23.359
he's he's a model for not just
football teams, he's a model for

1281
01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:26.560
how to how to live your life. There's no question about it. And

1282
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:30.039
in the Borough family, you know, he and his family, they there's

1283
01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:34.840
Jimmy and Robin Burrow have raised a
phenomenal son. There's no question. They

1284
01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:39.439
got to be proud as proud as
pune, proud as parents can be,

1285
01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:44.920
and and and and really they're they're
a big part of his foundation. It's

1286
01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:47.319
a family, it's a family affair, as they say. So there's a

1287
01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:50.000
lot of good that's going to come
out of that out of that contract for

1288
01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:55.359
sure. And and honestly, Lance, I think that Dan asked in the

1289
01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.920
pregame, do you think that that
Joe Burrow will let it go? You

1290
01:25:59.039 --> 01:26:01.199
know, physically in this first game, or do you think he'll play a

1291
01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:04.000
little bit tentatively? And I said, well, in my mind is two

1292
01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:08.800
hundred and seventy five million reasons said
he will let it go, and two

1293
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:13.319
hundred and nineteen millions of him are
guaranteed because now that contract. If he

1294
01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:16.239
had not signed that contract, it's
like should I shouldn't I What if I

1295
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:19.000
get hurt? What if I get
hurt? And now what's going to happen

1296
01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:24.560
in the negotiations. The fact that
that was dead and done before the season

1297
01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:28.640
started, I think gave him the
final peace of mind is let's go out

1298
01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:31.399
there and and give it what we've
got here. I also, I love

1299
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:34.319
to I forget who asked the question. But but Joe's comment was about what

1300
01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:36.920
if he was going to buy anything
big and he said, I guess I

1301
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:40.520
can go on Amazon. Now it
takes something out that I see that I

1302
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:45.520
like, I said, you know, show you got this life changing contract.

1303
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:50.000
Any celebration, you know, really
you know, it's it's not that

1304
01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:53.680
time to do. I mean,
that's not that's not his m O.

1305
01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:58.359
Anyway, maybe uh, you know, maybe a few minutes the celebration then

1306
01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:01.239
move on. I gotta play foot
well. Got the Cleveland Browns coming up,

1307
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:04.239
it didn't work out too well,
but now you got the Baltimore Ravens

1308
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:08.199
coming up. We would also be
remiss if we did not bring up the

1309
01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:14.680
role and the involvement of Katie Blackburn
in getting this deal done and the respect

1310
01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:19.199
she garners around the league in situations
like this in contract negotiations. No question,

1311
01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:24.319
she is a caponomics mathn and no
doubt about it. I mean she

1312
01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:29.760
is somebody that other general managers in
the league kind of look to. She

1313
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:34.319
sets trends. I mean, she
sets a good example. And like Mike

1314
01:27:34.439 --> 01:27:43.800
Brown has said, she was a
math major at Dartmouth economics math. She

1315
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:47.640
knows of what she speaks when the
numbers are involved, and she's been extremely

1316
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:54.880
creative. And that's the thing is
the parameters of the contract. It's two

1317
01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:58.720
hundred and seventy five million, but
he does have two years left on his

1318
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:02.119
original contract, so this is an
extension. They have them now for seven

1319
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:08.680
years, counting this season as one
of the seven. So how much is

1320
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:13.880
frontloaded to leave you know now that
it's not as heavy in these two years

1321
01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:16.279
salaries, how much of it will
be frontloaded bonus, how much of it

1322
01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:20.279
will be backloaded in terms of the
bigger salaries. So in the middle,

1323
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:25.319
you know you're gonna be able to
make some adjustments with respect to your roster

1324
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:29.920
and all that goes along with that. And that's where Katie is brilliant.

1325
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:34.239
That's where she is amongst the pioneers
in the National Football League in that regard.

1326
01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:36.800
She's done a hell of a job
that way. That's a great point.

1327
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:40.520
Maybe a little bit more on that, and we'll get into the Ravens

1328
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:44.560
as we continue. We're rolling towards
nine o'clock tonight, we're knee deep in

1329
01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:47.840
all the Bengals conversation. It's Bengals
Line on the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio

1330
01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:54.279
Networking, seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back in on this Monday night.

1331
01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:57.720
We're doing Bengals Line. It's on
the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Networking,

1332
01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:00.079
seven hundred WLW. I'm Lance,
but handless. Her alongside is Dave

1333
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:04.680
Lapham. Yes, sir Lance.
And this portion of Bengals Line is presented

1334
01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:10.840
by Bedford Sportsbook, the official sports
betting partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. Want

1335
01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:13.880
to backtrack quickly, before we get
into the Ravens something. You were talking

1336
01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:18.600
about the vision for the Sary cap
and Katie Blackburn and the contracts and negotiations,

1337
01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:24.760
because it's it's never about just one
player, one deal. There's always

1338
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:28.119
dominoes at fall. And I can't
imagine looking up on a board of of

1339
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:30.680
the roster and the age and the
contract status and the SARI cap hits and

1340
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:35.039
trying to manage all of that to
keep this team. It's a damn good

1341
01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:40.920
team. It's a it's a young, talented team, but every bill comes

1342
01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:44.199
due eventually, and you've got to
have a big picture vision to handle all

1343
01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:45.640
of that. And there's tough decisions
to be made. There are, there's

1344
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.279
no question Lance, and you look
at it. The last two drafts,

1345
01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:54.319
every rookie has made the team and
then you're in a college free agent offensive

1346
01:29:54.359 --> 01:30:00.079
lineman make the team as well.
So now why is important? While you

1347
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:04.399
don't you don't have a quarterback that's
on a rookie contract anymore. You just

1348
01:30:04.520 --> 01:30:08.920
signed him to a mega deal right
now, it's the richest deal in the

1349
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:13.359
history of the National Football League.
How do you make that work? In

1350
01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.000
terms of the ying and Yanga cap. You have to have a younger roster,

1351
01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:21.640
and their roster they've got something like
accounting practice squad. They get fifty

1352
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:29.840
three players that are five years or
less experienced in the NFL. There heaviest

1353
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:33.039
years in the league is Tyler Boyd
at eight. They don't have anybody in

1354
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:36.880
the end on their roster with ten
years of more NFL experience. I think

1355
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:41.399
take care of at thirty is their
oldest player. Who's the oldest player yep,

1356
01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:45.920
and he's I think in his eighth
year as well, with Tyler as

1357
01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:49.359
his eight. Tyler's younger and Ted
because of what took place at the collegiate

1358
01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:55.720
career level. But it's, uh, you know, those are the things

1359
01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:59.359
that you have to you have to
do, and you look at the scouting

1360
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:02.199
department, say guys, let's let's
put the baton ball now, let's make

1361
01:31:02.239 --> 01:31:05.760
sure we get guys that can contribute
because we have to make this football team

1362
01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:12.159
younger. We can go out there
in free agency, but in free agency

1363
01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:15.760
it's they're coming into their second contract. They're not free agents until that first

1364
01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:21.479
contract is up. So I mean
it's not prohibitive to get somebody into uh

1365
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:28.840
to sign a second contract. But
we have to supplement it with rookies,

1366
01:31:29.079 --> 01:31:33.319
and let's do our best to staff
this organization with the best rookie classes we

1367
01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:36.079
can. In two years in a
row, they've all made the football team.

1368
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:39.920
Yeah, And when you can plug
into value of being able to plug

1369
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:43.800
in somebody like Cam Taylor, brit
Or or Dax Hill, allows you that

1370
01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:47.159
that fork in the road of we
love Jesse Bates, we love Von Bell,

1371
01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:51.640
but we can't keep everybody. And
we've got Dax Hill in the pipeline

1372
01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:56.520
and he's certainly ready. And it
just it makes your decisions. They're tough

1373
01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:59.920
decisions, but they're made easier if
you draft well and plug those players in

1374
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:04.319
who ascend to assume roles. Yeah, I think I think the successful organizations

1375
01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:10.039
in the National Football League now are
never gonna have to have a tear down

1376
01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:13.920
and rebuild. It's just remodeling,
you know. It's like I'm gonna We're

1377
01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:16.000
gonna, you know, tweak this
front, this roster a little bit,

1378
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:19.439
tweaking here, tweaking there. But
never get yourself in a situation where,

1379
01:32:19.840 --> 01:32:24.279
oh my gosh, we missed,
we abuse the salary capital. We have

1380
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:27.159
to tear this whole thing apart.
We have to tear down and start over

1381
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:30.960
again. You know, never never
put yourself in that situation where you have

1382
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:34.279
to tear it down to the foundation
level. Just make sure that the framework

1383
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:39.000
and the structure and all the all
the kind of things that you need to

1384
01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:42.640
uh uh to work with. You
might be able to put another coat of

1385
01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:45.760
paint or put up plaster on instead
of stucco or whatever you can. You

1386
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:49.960
can tweak it and make it look
a little different, but not tear it

1387
01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:54.000
down. Not tear that thing down. I think that's what the Bengals are

1388
01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:57.359
doing a pretty good job of.
Final thought, Before we get into the

1389
01:32:57.399 --> 01:33:00.319
Ravens, we mentioned a lot of
things. I don't think we any point.

1390
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:02.359
We mentioned the tight end position IRV
Smith Junior and what they got out

1391
01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:06.239
a tight end yesterday. Impressions of
earth Smith yesterday, Yeah, I mean,

1392
01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:11.960
I think it's hard to I think
it's hard to make an evaluation on

1393
01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:15.920
anybody from that football game. Yeah
it was bad. Yeah, it was

1394
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:18.640
just a just a bad performance.
I remember one throw to him on I

1395
01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:21.720
think it was a third and one
of the sideline and Joe's throw was high

1396
01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:26.319
and I thought he probably still could
have caught it, but it was like

1397
01:33:26.439 --> 01:33:30.640
that's an example of throw high catch
not made. There there's your day,

1398
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:33.119
like like I said, a tickoff, yes, you know, it's like,

1399
01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:39.800
okay, the throw was a tickoff
and oh just almost just and then

1400
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:43.079
all of a sudden, a tick
here, a tick there, you know,

1401
01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:46.960
everywhere tick to. Everybody's ticked off. That's what it ends up.

1402
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:51.199
Because it's twenty fourth three. You
know you got spanked. You were a

1403
01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:57.640
tickoff. You're not on TikTok,
are you? He's not. He's drawed

1404
01:33:57.720 --> 01:34:00.560
the line right there. My only
TikTok is listen o'clock. There you go,

1405
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.000
head down the stretch. Now,
I'll get to the Ravens next.

1406
01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:06.399
I promise. He's Dave Lapham.
I'm Lance Pacalister. It's Bengals Line.

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We're on the First Star Logistics Bengals
Radio Network and seven hundred WLW and down

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the stretch we come, heading towards
nine o'clock. That will be our wrap

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01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:19.560
up. We've put almost three hours
in the books tonight. We do it

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each and every Monday night, breaking
down the Bengals game, looking ahead of

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the next game. We call it
Bengals Line. It's on the first Star

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Logistics Bengals Radio Network. I'm Lance
Pcalister alongside as always Dave Lapham and kirkstand

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Cocktails. The only can cocktail dedicated
to spice? About that? Are you

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dedicated to spice link? Yeah?
Can be sure absolutely. Spice is nice

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01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:47.439
little spice in your life. There
you beat it. Yes, Baltimore Ravens

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beat the Houston Texans twenty five to
nine. I in reading and listening to

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many different accounts of the game,
the word that came up a lot was

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an offense out of sync. They're
still learning Todd Monk and offense. We

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01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:02.359
talked with Lou about it earlier.
It's a little bit there's gonna be some

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different things in it with what they're
trying to do. Lamar Jackson had a

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01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:12.640
pedestrian day quarterbacking through it, only
through it twenty two times seventeen to twenty

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01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:15.600
two for only one hundred and sixty
nine yards, had an interception, he

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did fumble the ball, only ran
at six times for thirty eight yards.

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But they were going against the Texans
team with a rookie quarterback in c.

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J. Stroud. We got three
rushing touchdowns on the day from the Ravens

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and they get out with a sixteen
point win. Yeah, it's gonna be

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very interesting to see what the what
the Bengals do. They ran some five

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man defensive line yesterday when the Cleveland
Browns went big when they went with twelve

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01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:45.319
and thirteen personnel, that being two
and three tight ends and a lot of

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times when they went thirteen it was
an extra offensive lineman to boot. It

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wasn't just a tight end when they
when they were playing in the Baltimore Ravens

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01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:58.720
with the prior coordinator who wanted to
just run the heck out of the football,

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01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:02.720
they played five two defense pretty extensively. They can do that if needed.

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01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:09.920
Monkin is giving the idea, Like
coming out of Cleveland, all I

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01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:13.920
heard was, Oh, Cleveland Browns
are going to go eleven personnel and they're

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01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:17.920
gonna spread the field with all kinds
of receivers and have Deshaun Watson. And

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I'm like, I don't know if
I can believe it. And then you

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have a backlight job. I'm not
sure that I take the ball out of

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his hands all that much. And
they mixed it up, but they did

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go with their two and three tight
end packages and they had the extra offensive

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01:36:31.640 --> 01:36:35.800
linemen in there and all those kind
of things. I do think the Baltimore

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01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:40.800
Ravens when they see the Cincinnati Bengals
gave up two hundred yards on forty carries,

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01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:44.720
that they're gonna say, that's the
recipe. We're gonna make sure that

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01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:46.239
we get the running game. We
don't ignore the running game. We're gonna

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01:36:46.279 --> 01:36:50.960
make sure we're we're running the football. Now. They did suffer a significant

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01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:55.199
injury j K. Dobbins going down
with the achilles, But you got to

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01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:59.960
ask Gus Edwards. You have Dax
Hill's brother Justice, who is a heckup

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01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:02.000
football player as well. Yeah,
he had two touchdowns yesterday, yep.

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And that that offensive line is a
is an offensive line that can It can

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be very very physical and they can
pull and get on into space as well.

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01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:15.319
Kevin Zeitler is still there. Seems
like he's been in the league twenty

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01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:19.680
years now. They're they're going a
good offensive line up front. Ronnie Stanley

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is a athletic left tackle. Uh
Marky Andrews at the tight end position is

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as good as there is in the
National Football League. You're gonna have to

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make sure you have packages to nullify
him. I mean, it's gonna be

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a good old AFC North old fashion
slopper knocker. That's what it's gonna be.

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You mentioned the Dobbins injury. They
lost Marcus Williams, a defensive back,

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to a shoulder, which I believe
the initial thought is it's a significant

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01:37:46.359 --> 01:37:51.119
injury. And uh oh, Zay
Flowers, the rookie wide receiver yesterday had

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was targeted ten times. Lamar threw
at twenty two times twelve at ten of

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01:37:56.840 --> 01:38:00.439
those targets where it is a Flowers
the rookie had nine catches for seventy eight

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01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:04.079
yards long of twenty one. But
he seems to have and justifiably still create

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01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:06.960
a little bit of a buzz and
an exciting element in that passing game.

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Yeah, there's no question. And
I do think with Lamar Jackson, not

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only the improvisational running game, but
we saw a little bit of it with

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Sean Watson. You saw the quarterback
county, you saw the quarterback draw.

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All of those things and more are
gonna be in the football game with Lamar

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Jackson at the quarterback position. I
just I know, I know that's not

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Monkin's deal, but if you've got
a guy that can execute it as well

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and successfully as Lamar Jackson has done. I just at some point as a

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coordinator, I'm like, I'm not
going to force feed something to a guy

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that is going to be tough for
him to execute. I'm gonna take his

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01:38:51.960 --> 01:38:58.039
talents and I'm gonna embellish my game
plan with what this guy can do best.

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And so to me, Lamar Jackson, you got to consider him at

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01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:08.119
this point maybe their biggest weapon in
the running game. How about Sunday will

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feature two quarterbacks on the field who
have signed contracts combining over almost over a

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half billion with a B dollars Lamar
two hundred and fifty million, Joe two

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01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:24.439
seventy five, over a half billion
dollars in quarterback buddy, not so crazy.

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And when they came to the agreement, uh here in Cincinnati with Joe

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Burrow the day of that uh agreed
upon contract Paul Brown's birthday nineteen and I'm

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like, Okay, that's that's the
football gods are at work, because he

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was all about the quarterback. I
mean Ottod Graham all the way through.

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I mean Greg Cook, Greg Cook
and and and Kenny Anderson, and I

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01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:57.000
mean boomer size Pro Bowl quarterbacks here
with the Bengals Pro Bowl quarterbacks that they

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that he had in Cleveland. I
mean, he's all about the quarterback.

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And on his birthday, his quarterback
gets two hundred and seventy five million.

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I bet PB raised one eyebrow and
then both eyebrows in shock. He have

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01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:15.479
believed that God dressed the soul wherever
he is. But he also wouldn't believe

1489
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that TV money is what twenty billion
dollars coming up and the next contract or

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01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:26.680
whatever, and franchises the worst six
billion dollars. Now. He bought the

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01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:31.680
Cincinnati Bengals in nineteen sixty seven for
sixty million bucks. Nice return on investment.

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01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:35.479
Way to go. Final thought on
the Ravens on the defensive side,

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Roquan Smith, who they got last
year in a trade and really made it

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a difference right away, made a
difference again yesterday. He had sixteen combined

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tackles, He had a sack,
He had two tackles for Lazzi had a

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quarterback that guy does. He did
everything when he was in Chicago with the

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Bears, and he's doing everything for
him now when he's in Baltimore with the

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Ravens. Yeah, he is.
He's a force. There's no question about

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it. And their their back end. You know, Marlon Humphrey. Of

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01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:05.239
course, Jamar Chase has torched him, There's no question about that. From

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Marlin Humphrey is a player. And
the back end of the front is where

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Harbaugh and the and the Baltimore Ravens
have made sure that they're very good in

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the back end, because that's where
he cut his teeth, you know,

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as a coordinator, as a second
a special teams coordinator, secondary coach,

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and everything goes along with that.
So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.

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Both of these teams know each other
cold, there's no doubt about that.

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So what wrinkles, what twists,
what adjustments are going to be made?

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From Week one to Week two?
Ravens coming off a victory, Bengals

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01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:44.880
coming off a defeat. Half the
league is undefeated, half the league is

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winless. That's the way it is. After Week one, let's head down

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the stretch, put the wraps on
It Finals segment on this Monday night,

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It's Bengals Line, First Star Logistics, Bengals Radio Network, and seven hundred

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01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:59.920
WLW. All right here we go. Let's put the raps on It Finals

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seg better the night to wrap up
three hours of all things Bengals Conversation tonight

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01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:05.479
every Monday night. This is the
place to beat for it. Bengals line

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01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:10.399
in the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio
Network lance mechanist, your Dave Lapham and

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01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:14.640
Dave, let's remind them and they
certainly should not forget about lay it on

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01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:18.600
us. Yeah, we are doing
a podcast in the Trenches with Dave lapphaman

1519
01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:24.560
It's brought to you by First Star
Logistics on a pretty regular basis. We've

1520
01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:27.880
I've been doing it, gosh,
I guess a couple of years now anyway,

1521
01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:31.840
and do it from a studio up
there. Get it's pretty much Bengals

1522
01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:35.680
focused and NFL focused. This past
week, for example, some of the

1523
01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:40.680
guests included Peter King, Bloomer Sis
and talk about keys to the game,

1524
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:44.479
talk about matchups and all that sort
of thing. So gonna be doing it

1525
01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:48.880
again this week. And I think
last week in the opener we probably overdid

1526
01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:53.000
it. I think we posted a
podcast just but every day are close to

1527
01:42:53.079 --> 01:42:55.720
it, I think, but we
post a couple of times a week,

1528
01:42:55.760 --> 01:43:00.319
maybe three times a week, on
a fairly regular basis. So it's very

1529
01:43:00.399 --> 01:43:05.880
enjoyable and uh, you know,
it's interesting to get people's perspective, not

1530
01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:12.760
just players and coaches within the Cincinnati
Bengals organization, but the national perspective from

1531
01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:16.479
guys like Chris collins Worth, who's
picking the Bengals to win the Super Bowl

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01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:21.119
this year. But yeah, Boomerisias
and Peter King, people of that ilk

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01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:26.680
uh that that do have a Cincinnati
connection some way, shape or form.

1534
01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:30.600
Peter King covered the team in the
early stages of his brilliant career, and

1535
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:34.720
of course we know Boomer and Chris
were great players for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:39.239
Yes, and I loved your your
post game wrap up last night with Dave

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01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:42.000
Burke. There was pause and then
you said, I gotta go. I

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01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:43.960
gotta get on the bus. I
gotta get on the bus. Yeah.

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01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:47.960
It was like, hey, uh, but gotta go. Got it bored

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01:43:48.039 --> 01:43:51.039
up? You mean they're not you
know what you mean? Zach isn't saying

1541
01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:59.520
hey, hang on last and the
trenches is there still going on? That

1542
01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:02.279
was good? That was good.
Uh, look ahead. Two things to

1543
01:44:02.319 --> 01:44:05.520
look ahead too this week. One, AJ is gonna be back in town.

1544
01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:10.840
AJ Green is the ruler of the
Jungle perfectly time because he ruled the

1545
01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:14.640
Baltimore Ravens when he played. I'm
telling you John Harbos said, are we

1546
01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:17.880
ever gonna beat these guys? When
they with AJ Green a Cincinnati Bengal.

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01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:24.079
I mean it was like they did. They owned the Baltimore Rags and a

1548
01:44:24.159 --> 01:44:28.680
lot of it was due to AJ
had two hundred yards receiving day, you

1549
01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:32.199
know, against the Baltimore Ravens,
and many, many times were explosive,

1550
01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:38.000
big play touchdowns that ended up being
the deciding points in a football game.

1551
01:44:38.119 --> 01:44:42.600
Yeah. I saw a picture yesterday
Andy Dalton had posted on Instagram. AJ

1552
01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:46.760
was AJ and Andy were together yesterday
for the photo I guess prior to the

1553
01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:48.800
game. I think it was.
But it was good to see those two

1554
01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:53.560
together yesterday. Yes, there's no
doubt those those guys made made a lot

1555
01:44:53.640 --> 01:44:58.039
of beautiful music together. There's no
doubt about that a football standpoint. Yeah,

1556
01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:00.319
well, let's circle back around something
you said earlier. At least to

1557
01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:03.600
your eye, there was no one
of the positives out of yesterday, was

1558
01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:08.000
there. There didn't seem to be
any knock on wood, any significant injuries

1559
01:45:08.119 --> 01:45:12.359
or injuries that might be something to
keep an eye on during the week for

1560
01:45:12.399 --> 01:45:15.039
the most Yeah, Yeah, I
think so it didn't. It didn't seem

1561
01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:19.800
like there cam sample. I noticed
him limping off the field and the result

1562
01:45:19.880 --> 01:45:24.920
of the play was a holding penalty
on Teller that brought brought a play back

1563
01:45:24.960 --> 01:45:28.119
from the Cleveland Browns, and he
was involved in a pile up of bodies

1564
01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:31.319
as a result of that holding penalty
in his ankle got tweaked a little bit,

1565
01:45:31.399 --> 01:45:34.960
but he's gonna be looks to be
okay. And I didn't notice anybody

1566
01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:40.800
else that was struggling to get off
the field, or any kind of medical

1567
01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:44.199
attention on the sideline or anything.
But sometimes you never know. Man.

1568
01:45:44.279 --> 01:45:46.119
You go to bed after you know, a physical game, you wake up

1569
01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:50.479
the next morning and you got a
little bit of a nothing significant, but

1570
01:45:50.640 --> 01:45:54.479
you know, a tweak or bump
or brew something you gotta take care of.

1571
01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:57.800
But I think most hands are gonna
be on deck, So their health

1572
01:45:57.880 --> 01:46:00.399
is pretty good right now. What
do you say we get? They're here

1573
01:46:00.680 --> 01:46:02.680
one week from tonight, discuss a
win over the Ravens. All will be

1574
01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:04.600
right in the world. The Bengals
will be one and one and we'll be

1575
01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:06.680
good to go. How's that?
Yeah? One on one, one on

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01:46:06.720 --> 01:46:12.000
one in the division? Back to
even Stephen and uh go on to go

1577
01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:14.600
on a run. That'd be nice. If we're sitting here at O and

1578
01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:15.760
two, we'll just blame me,
Youd, that's what we'll do. But

1579
01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:18.840
just blame me. Everybody blames you
had when things don't go well, right

1580
01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:24.239
d Thanks for hanging out with us, everybody. We'll do it again next

1581
01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:28.279
week. This has been Bengals Line
on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network

1582
01:46:28.319 --> 01:46:29.720
and seven hundred WLW