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Pacalister Dave Lappha'm with you each and every Monday night. We sort through the
game, we look ahead to the next game, We talk with players,
coaches, break it all down for three hours each and every Monday night.
And David, certainly, wasn't what we expected. It wasn't what we wanted,
but it is what we get. And now just a matter of cleaning
up a number of things and not letting it snowball and looking ahead eventually those
Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, it was. It was definitely ugly. Ugogi as
as like to say, I mean, it was a case of getting handled.
Bottom line, the thing that impressed me most was the Cleveland Brown's defensive
football team. I mean, Jim Schwartz had them ready. It looked like
they were in the huddle listening to plays because the coverage was suffocating, I
mean, blanketed. It was unbelievable. They've got great some great players,
there's no question about it, Myles Garrett, Denzel Award, but all eleven
guys. I mean, I'm watching it and they're moving in such harmony and
such, you know, I mean, perfect coordination. Everybody's where they're supposed
to be when they're supposed to be there, doing what they're supposed to do.
And I'm like, boy, these guys are playing really well defensively,
and I mean Joe Borrow put up career low numbers for a reason, and
I think, you know, obviously they weren't at the top of their game,
there's no question about that offensively, but I think the Cleveland Browns defense
had a hell of a lot to do with it. They you gotta give
them credit. You gotta tip their tip your cap to him, because after
the game, the players were saying they didn't do anything. We didn't anticipate
it. Sure looked like it. It looked like they were, you know,
a little bit uh, a little bit hesitant, befuddled. But I'm
not sure that it was that they were like, oh, I don't expect
him to be doing that. I think it's like I didn't expect to be
doing it that well, you know, it's like, man, our guys,
we just can't get any separation. I was gonna be a follow up
because when you have Miles Garrett up front who can do what he can do.
But the back end of Denzel awarded even delpit at safety. That the
the closing of the gap, the hands in the face, the batting the
ball away. They were all over Bengals wide receivers. They really were.
I mean they challenged them, and I thought that was the thing that uh,
you know, Schwartz really did. All Right, I'm gonna be aggressive.
We're coming after you. He blitzed quite a bit. I mean he's
more of a guy that by alignment will get one on one matchups. He's
not a heavy blitz guy. I thought, he blitz the higher percentage than
he does. Uh, he does normally, But then he pressed. I
mean he got corners right up in their faces. And and when they were
playing zone, they attacked. I mean they came downhill to close on things.
Everything in their mind set was like, we're gonna be the aggressor we
are the puncher. You're gonna have to counter punch us, even though defensively
we you know, by trade, are supposed to counter what you do.
You're gonna have to counter us, because here we come, and man,
they came after it. When when you look back and you see six first
downs, if you see seven punts on the first seven drives, it it
doesn't even It looks like a mispread that that that can't be for this offense.
Uh, this offense. The numbers that that are like staggering a bad
six first downs, two on the ground, three first downs passing. This
offensive football team thirteen point three percent on third down, two out of fifteen
on third down conversions. And they got their first one, the first third
down conversion of the game. They got it. The second one was a
third and one, and they didn't even get it. And I thought and
then all of a sudden they couldn't get into third and meet even short anymore.
It was third and length thirteen point three percent one hundred and forty two
yards on fifty four plays, two point six yards per play. Bottom line
is the Cleveland Browns since twenty twenty are six and one against the Cincinnati Bengals.
They have a losing record twenty two and twenty three against everybody else in
the league. Some teams, you know, the old saying, oh they
got our number. I mean, it's like this is Stefanski is six and
one against the Cincinnati Bengals. Zach Taylor is one and six against the Cleveland
Browns. It's it's almost remarkable because look at the Bengals record against everybody else,
yep, and they're one in six against the Cleveland Browns. The Browns
find it hard, difficult to lose to the Bengals, but then they can
lose to everybody else. But Paul's a weird game sometimes, man, Yeah,
no question about that. Let's go inside the locker room after the game,
kick off our reaction throughout these three hours. Here's Dave with the coach,
Zach Taylor after the game. Coach Obviously twenty four to three outcome wasn't
what you were looking for. But coming out of this football game, the
good news is seemed to come out of it pretty darn healthy. Yeah,
we'll look at that, but obviously we want to come by here with a
win and healthy. You know, but it's a long season, so we
gotta make the corrections that we can control and be ready to go next week.
INDs Baltimore in your mind, what are some of those corrections that you
feel like need to be made that you can control. There's gonna be a
lot of hidden yardage in just all over the field, you know that presented
us with field position and then third down clearly on offense, we were two
or fifteen or three fifteen, and that's that's not gonna beat anybody. So
there's gonna be a lot of things we can clean up defensively, particularly in
the first half. Two takeaways. You didn't turn the football over, you
went plus two. You know, that's that's gonna win you some football games
when other things are ironed out. There's no question, you know, they
did. They did what we needed them to do, and we went for
it on fourth down in their territory. And it gave up seven points right
after that, had the two turnovers. They really had field position working against
some of the entire game and held out for us well, So you know,
I thought that there was there was a lot of winning things that are
defensive today. If I'm not mistaken, I think Joe put a glove on.
I mean, what was it that bad out there with that rain?
I mean, if it's just drizzle in a little bit, that can make
a football darn slick with that rosin on it, Yea, it was as
bad as we've had since I've been here, you know, So that's no
moment that that factors into the game, and we gotta be ready for as
a team and start to adjust and again win on those little small rings and
all three phases to help ourselves. And just didn't do good enough job of
that. Saying did Cleveland do anything defensively that that surprised you at all?
Or they were very aggressive in their posture on just about everything they did.
I guess, yeah, sure, and you should be. You know,
they're in the first half when it when it gets wet, and it's gonna
be hard to throw it and they're gonna have to lean on the run game.
So they did a good job of that stuff. So now as you
get ready for the Baltimore Ravens, you get them at home. And I
mean, what did you tell your football team in the locker room right after
this football game? We gotta clean this thing up tomorrow, put this one
behind us, and be ready to see the team that we know we are
next week when we played Baltimore at home. Yeah, you're exactly right.
I mean, the last two years this team went to the Super Bowl,
went to the SC Championship Game and lost in Cleveland both years. I mean,
it's not like you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, right.
Yeah, people will make a lot of it because it's Week one and
there's been a lot of focus on this game. But again, we know
that it's gonna be a long season and we just gotta put them behind us
to make the corrections and get ready for next week. Zach Taylor after the
game with Dave and and we say this each time there is a loss,
and it may sound cliche, but it's the reality. There's nothing you can
do about the one that has happened. Don't let its snowball and carry over
into week two, now right, I mean it's like, all right,
learn you know, don't don't totally dismiss it, look at the tape,
learn from your mistakes, and then compartment compartmentalized, move on and get ready
for the next opponent. You just can't let it linger. You can't let
it eat away at you. But you can't act like it didn't happen,
because it did. And the real kicker is and you try to compartmentalize.
But at the same time, you realize Kansas City lost at home in Week
one to Detroit, and so there wasn't as much as you try to focus
on the not focus on the big picture of home field, down the road
and stuff like that. Man, when you you lose out of the gate,
when Kansas City is lost, it's just kicking up yeah, sh yeah,
I mean it it is. It is at least that maybe. But
you know the thing is, though you look at it and you say,
okay, well they haven't won up there since twenty seventeen. The last two
years the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and last year they went to the
SC Championship Game and they lost in Cleveland both times. So I mean it's
happened, and they've rebounded and recovered and all that, all that good stuff.
But like you say, Lance for the clearest way to the playoffs is
winning your division. And you want to get as high as seat as you
possibly can by winning your division. And when the favorite, you know,
stumbled out of the gate, last thing you want to do is stumble out
of the gate. And you didn't stumble, You fell in your face out
of the gate. Kansas City stumbled. This team just couldn't have couldn't have
played any worse. And that's the thing I think. You look at it
and say, hey, we had nowhere to go but up. You can't
play any worse than we played in that opener. But why the hell did
we play like that in the opener? And resolve some of those issues,
no question about it. There is a lot to get to in our first
of three hours tonight. We'll hear from QB one, Joe Burrow up next
later out of the hour, Sam Hubbard, Tyler Boyd, DJ Raider,
and a whole lot more between now and not a tonight. It's the debut
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but canister. He is Dave Lapham. We are sorting through yesterday's twenty
four three loss by the Bengals to the Browns. Will eventually look ahead to
those Baltimore Ravens in week two. And Lance, I think you know one
good thing that came out of the game is health. You know there Joe
Burrow suffered no ill effects to that calf injury. Seemed like he got through
it okay. And I guess he'll know more today after sleeping on it and
waking up and seeing if it's any additional stiffness or anything like that after the
all the action, that all the physical activity that he gave that calf.
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the best fans. Camp sample. I know tweaked an ankle a little bit,
get dinged up, but talked to him since the game ended. And
he seems to think that it's it's it's nothing significant whatsoever. I really can't
remember anything else that took place during the game where it was like, oh,
well, we're gonna have to follow up and check out that one.
So you know, that's the interesting thing is as much as they were dominated
in terms of the action, a lot of times you get beaten up too
as a result of that, and they didn't. They didn't get beaten up
in that game at all. The stalk Joe Burrow tough day a career worship
fourteen to thirty one. It's hard to look at those numbers and say,
wow, fourteen to thirty one, passing eighty two yards, the two sacks.
He was high at times, he was wide at times, went to
the glove at one time, first time he's thrown for less than a one
hundred yards in his career. Let's hear from Joe, and then we'll react
to Here's here's performance after the game, here's QB one. Yeah, funk,
good enough, Fuck good enough. It's obviously saw you put on the
gloved happy period. Yeah. Obviously, when when it's running like that,
it's something that you gotta handle. We didn't handle it today? Did you
seem kemp back? We indiating of this at all. Love to tell a
lot of variables that go into it. What's going to your mind. It's
one week obviously not up to our standard, not up to my standard,
but we got sixteen more of them, so we're just gonna keep trucking.
You have sense during the week of unease entering a year were something like this,
you could have made something coming at all or was it pretty No?
No, we had a good week practice. Uh, you know, stuff
like this happens. We've been here before. We're gonna come back stronger,
gonna have a good week of practice, get better this week, come back
next Sunday, hopefully get a win. We're good things that slept in the
offense today and from the work team. Some of those play I don't know,
I don't know. I don't know so well. You know that's it's
a it's a rep in the elements that you don't get a lot, and
you live and you learn from it, and we're gonna come back better.
So next time we were in a game like that, we're gonna be more
well equipped to handle those elements and come out on top like a couple of
times there was this communication. I don't know God on the the seenor's end,
but what did you notice that all of this last where it all was
once months set. Yeah, that happens in week one. Obviously, those
things happen when your quarterback doesn't perform in training camp. You know, that
was obviously something that I would have liked to have done. But there's no
excuses. It's obviously not not very good today, so we gotta be better
as a whole on all had just a communication distracts before why it wasn't Yeah,
it's just some week one, week one stuff that happens everywhere. You
know, you see it across the league. So that's something that everybody's gotta
get cleaned up. We gotta get cleaned up, and we will. How
much is it dolt that you went through the slow start last year and over
the world, you guys overcame that you gotta wait over Yeah, nobody's nobody's
panicking here, guys. It's one week one doesn't define anybody's season. Obviously,
not very good out there, but anybody that watched saw that. Uh,
but we've been in this spot before. We've come back stronger and had
great years, so that's what we're gonna do. Feel like, coming out
of the half, you guys almost made me over, even offensively a little
bit. Yeah, we had we had a nice little drive there. We
were running the ball. Well, that's what you got to do in those
elements, and then we had miscommunication here and there, and then we didn't
come out with any points. And so that was a turning point in the
game. I think were they doing to stop t Obviously you guys weren't able
to get connected today where they have different coverages on there or something little surprising,
or because I a really good corners Denzel and and Emerson or two of
the better corners in the league. I think, you know, Newsom is
a is a great nickel too, so they got a great secondary. Obviously,
we weren't good enough in me putting the ball in the right place and
in our one on one situations. We just didn't come out on top to
that. Joe Burrow after the game and it it just wasn't It just wasn't
his day there. It just was a struggle from start, really was,
and I think, honestly, and it's not an excuse, it's a fact.
Both quarterbacks referenced it. The weather was tough. We've talked about it
before. When you get that drizzle rain and the ball gets wet but not
drenched with the resin, it's like, man, just slick, very very
slick. Watson talked about it. Watson talked about it was tough to grip
the football, throw in the football, and I remember multiple times saying he
held out of the ball too long. He stormed right into the ground.
Well that's because he was having trouble control and the football. So his his
deal was he was trying to overcompensate and he was bouncing the ball to people.
Joe's was. I mean about the third past he threw it came out
of his hand, almost went backwards. That's when he went to the glove
and it's like you know what, man, I mean, the glove was
on, the glove was off, the gloves back on again. So it
was it was a slippery pigskin. There's no no two ways about that.
And and Zach Taylor uh In in postgame communication talked about it being as tough
situation controlling the football is that he's seen and had to deal with as a
as a coach. So sometimes you think that's not that bad, not the
rain man. If you it's better to take those footballs and just dunk him
in a bucket of water and soaked those bad boys instead of just had that
little bit of moisture on there. That that that happens, and you can
dry him all you want with a towel, But when it's continually drizzling like
that, that's a tough dynamic, it really is to take care of that
ball. A couple of TV images they showed that Joe one point of the
sidelines with the elastic band the green band or near the calf being stretched by
a trainer. A couple of times they showed him sitting on the bench just
kind of massaging the knee itself. How did you feel he looked from a
movement standpoint in the pocket and trying to get out of the pocket. Yeah,
I mean I don't think that he was pent And again the field started
getting chopped up. I mean the field was because of the moisture of the
field. Was not not brit in perfect condition for sure. So you know
you think about that as well. Seez if I really do start to try
to uh, you know, a quick short space quick burst movement kind of
thing and explosive movement and the turf gives out on me. What's how's that
going to feel? What's that going to be like? So, I mean
there were extenuating circumstances. I'd say he passed that test, but Watson killed
him with the quarterback run game, and that wasn't part of Joe's day.
More to get two. We flip the script, talk a little defense.
Sam Hubbard up next. It's Bengals Line. We're on the first Star Logistics
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talked offense and the first part of the hour with Zach and Joe Burrow.
Let's flip the script. We'll get into some defense here in a second.
But always time to get into a card. Yeah, and let's talk about
a defensive card. Two takeaways, no giveaways plus two and gets spanked like
they did by twenty one points. That's unusual. Usually go plus two in
the turnover department, take care of the ball like they did, get a
couple of takeaways. It goes differently, but not to be up in Cleveland.
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Bengals run six players and only pick up seventeen yards have to settle for a
fifty one yard field goal by Evan McPherson. He misses it. To me,
big big point in the football game. Was still a one score game
at that point. That could have eaten into that one score lead and made
it a four point game and not to be and after that things really starting
to fall apart. Let's stay on the defensive side of things with our conversation.
Sam Hubbard led all the defensive linement it snaps yesterday played sixty one of
seventy four snaps, had eight tackles. Here's a day, was Sam Hubbard?
Sam I thought there in the first half defensively, you guys handled things
exceptionally well. Uh yeah, you know, we had some good stops.
I think we need to do better in the turnover battle. You know,
given our offensive chance, there's a lot of things we could have done better
down the stretch. But you know, it's a second have the most important.
You know, I'm we're not happy with the performance, but there's a
lot of things we can build on. There a lot we can look back
and correct. You. On third down, you did a heck of a
job getting them off football field on third down. They had some explosive players
obviously on first and second down, but third down was handled very very well.
Yeah, I thought Loud did a good job down up some pressures.
We did a good job rushing first and second. Now we got to eliminate
those explosives being disciplined. But I think the defense, defensive line, defense
as a whole, battled their ass off and offense, you know, they
acknowledge they can play better and they're gonna get it right. I got complete
faith in our offense and uh, you know, it's week one. We're
gonna get better, right, And I mean we just talked about it with
Zach. You guys last year went to the SC Championship game, the year
before went to the Super Bowl, and both times didn't win football games in
Cleveland. So not the end of the world here. I mean, you
gotta learn from it. You got to look at the tape, learn from
it, and then move on. Right. Yeah, Cleveland's a tough team
to play. They always play us really well. Uh you know, it's
definitely not the end of the world, but uh a lot, we can
correct a lot. We gotta look at ourselves in the mirror and fix those
things and come ready to play next week. Two takeaways. One thing the
offense did do pretty well is uh not give the football away. You were
plus two in the turnover department. That's a that's something to build off of.
Yeah, that's good, that's what we talked about doing. It's good
that we got that plus two. But uh, you know, we gotta
eliminate those explosive and do those things that we talked about Sam Hubbard after the
game and uh Dave you alluded to in the open here. They kept them
in the game. They gave the offense a chance really until the Watson touchdown
at the two point conversion was still sixteen thirteen at that point, and I
kept thinking, all right, they're gonna they're gonna hang in here, hang
in here, and Joe and the offense is gonna something's gonna break, something's
gonna click, and they'll be good. And it just never came. Yeah.
I was thinking, you know, that touchdown right before the half was
you know, was was tough pill, tough pill to swallow. But I
thought, Okay, defense comes out, Cleveland gets the football one three and
out. Yep, Bengals get the football, and thinking what kind of adjustments
made at halftime. Here, Let's see, let's see how it unfalls.
Let's see if they could take advantage in this first series and at no,
didn't didn't pan out. Cleveland was still going to dominate on the defensive side
of the football like they did in the first half, and they did the
entire game defense on the field for seventy four snaps in thirty six minutes yesterday.
That's a lot for the first week of the season, it is.
I mean, you know, the Bengals were basically out snapped eleven over eleven
minute time of possession advantage. With that, I mean, that's that's that's
significant. You're talking about getting near a quarter that you had to you know,
deal with and that the other team didn't. And uh, they also
had a fourteen snap disadvantage in the first half alone and ended up about that
way as well, So I mean they were definitely had to grind. They
were minus eighteen in terms snap seventy two for the Browns, fifty four for
the Bengals, and minus eleven minutes and forty seconds in possession, you know,
along those lines. It was interesting. Among many things I watched and
listened to and recaps was a podcast, a videocast that Deshaun Watson did,
and he said at halftime he got an IV because his legs and arms were
locking up. He said he didn't spend much time with the team at halftime
because he was getting an IV just because of how he was cramping up and
how he felt, you know what I think. And it wasn't really that
kind of a day, but he was geeked up. I think that's part
of what he said. The excitement of the opportunity finally and the suspension was
over, and he was he was feeling good going into the start of the
season. I mean, looking at him. I mean the way he pranced
in front of the Bengals sideline up to the fifty yard line during the course
step football game. This game was unbelievably important to him, and I think
sometimes when you do that, you have that kind of energy, enthusiasm,
emotion that can take it out as well. And then on top of it,
you're performing physically and you don't keep up with the water intake because you
don't factor in and all my emotions. I mean, it's just it's working
my body here. So that that's a that's very interesting that. But the
touchdown that he had, the touchdown run, they come out and they're in
a like like like like a diamond configuration of four wide receivers to the right.
He notices that they're deficient on that, you know, on the Bengals
defensive right side, his left side. I don't know if he audible to
it or he just decided, you know what, let's let the play unfold.
If I see lane, I'm going to take advantage of it and run.
Whichever way it happened, whichever way it turned out, he made an
unbelievable decision. That thirteen yard and touchdown run was big and there. Let's
let's understand that it was it was a big game for both teams. But
there's a lot on the line in Cleveland with Deshaan Watson Kevin Stefanski to begin
this season, and the expectations with Watson had they lost yesterday, that the
feeling in Cleveland is, well, is it ever gonna happen with Deshaud Watson
right right? There's no doubt. I mean there was some pressure there.
I will say that the Cincinnati Bengals are They're given Kevin Stevanski job security.
If not for the six and one record against the Bengals, he'd have a
losing record. He had that great season in twenty twenty took him to the
playoffs. It's the only time they've been in the playoffs in quite a while.
They haven't been since. But you know that the fact that six and
one against the team that has won the division title the last two years is
pretty amazing. I really is. Take a time out of continue well,
it's head back over to the offensive side of things. We'll talk with Tyler,
Boyd and Moore as we make our way through our number one Tonight roll
until nine three hours of breaking it all down, We'll look ahead of those
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times yesterday, came away with two catches for a total of ten yards.
Here's uh Tyler Boyd with Dan Horde and media in the locker room after the
game. Practice this game done, but does that make enough plays? I
think that's on you guys. You guys are that's for sure, because I
came nobody to do with yourself and We pride ourselves on making seventy percent of
the plays targets that we got, and we didn't and that's why everybody is
surprised and everybody pride is in a way because we didn't fulfill our criteria.
But we'll be back next week on top of a matchups with that secondary.
Obviously, you guys have arguably the best way of supers in the NFL,
but they have a good secondary as well. Yeah they're good. They were
touched up well, Uh, running good scheme, but we knew again,
we knew exactly what they were gonna do. They just want more, more,
more of the battles, and we did can put us in a bad
position and uh couldn't get ourselves out the whole. You play years, you're
gonna have some good days and bad days. But there's it almost stunning how
flat you were in this game. Absolutely, you know, I think that's
probably the most proful thing, you know, because I think overall we played
great difference play the heck of a game offense. Uh, we started getting
things going, but we never got consistent at moving the ball. And Uh,
you could say whatever you want about the weather, but uh Day was
out there making plays. The Browns makee plays enough players to win, so
just so we didn't make enough play. That's what they're gonna come down soon.
I think there were maybe eight or nine straight third down tries that you
didn't convert? Was that a specially glaring Yeah? That that that hurt us
a lot, because we prod ourselves on standing out there and converting, you
know, in third down, especially because we know that's why and coverage is
gonna come, and that's when the one on one opportunities come, and that's
when we make the big plays that you usually see. And you didn't today
because uh, they got the best of us. But uh, they're a
great team. But uh, I mean we just gotta win more mess ups.
I think from the storylines that might come out of this will be preseason
Joe not being able to play, obviously with the captain injury, how think
of a factor? Do you think reps were with him? Obviously you've had
plenty of reps with them overall, but just the past couple of weeks I
practiced with him. Yeah, I mean end of the day. I mean,
it's football. I mean just because you're down on two weeks or whatever
it is, it doesn't change. You're gonna see the same coverage, the
scene, the same defense, everything. I mean, Joe has been padding
up his game even though he's not practicing, he's still getting mental rep.
He's still doing a little bit of walking through with us, taking us separately
and doing stuff with us to make sure he still got his mechanics down pack.
And I don't think that really played a factor. They just I'll played
us and they made more plays. Another thing people are going to continue to
wonder is if the offense needs to play at a little bit in the preseason.
And is it fair to to ask that question at this point? Uh
Again, I mean you can say what you want, but uh, I
think the level of talent and that we have on the offensive side that I
don't really think that too much because if we went out there and we would
have won twenty four three, that wouldn't have been uh no argument, you
know, but we definitely gotta play better. I don't think the preseason got
anything to do with it, cause, uh, we all did our jobs.
We just gotta do it, uh at the level that we always we
expect ourselves to play out what he be being out on the field with Joe
for the first time. Is there something to that, I was, shoot
me for first time the first time, you know, in a game situation,
having chosen having miss six points, right, you know cap strength?
I mean again, I mean that's Joe. I mean, he always gonna
find a way, He get mental reps, he going do what you gotta
do. They always, uh stay on top of his game. I mean
it, this been going on for three years straight. Well, we had
a great uh tough losses or we in a in a in a in a
h midst of a game and don't go away. But I don't think the
preseason or anything like that contribute Tyler. After the game two catches ten yards
and boy, you look down that wide receiver sheet and I don't think anybody
would be expected to see T Higgins targeted eight times and I'd have a single
catch. Yeah, that's that's crazy. I mean, that's only the second
time that T Higgins is playing the game and not caught a food a game
in his rookie season. And it was like it wasn't like he didn't get
opportunity. Targeted eight times is significant, But again, good defense in some
cases, you know, contestant catches his forte. They were battling pretty well
there, and I'm sure Joe Barrow will be the first to tell everybody that
the pinpoint accuracy that you've come to expect it wasn't there, wasn't terrible.
I mean, he wasn't like, you know, like, what the hell
what do you throw? Who you throwing it to? What you were you
throwing it? But as I was watching the Bengals offense, I'm like,
man, it's just a tickoff. It's a tick off here and just a
tick off there, and pretty soon you're ticked off. I mean, it's
like it's getting bad out there because it's just just they could never find rhythm,
timing, tempo. It just oh man, it was like, you
know, five and a half cylinders and not six. You know, it
just it just wasn't quite there. The engine just was not turning over.
Let's head down the stretch in our first hour, back to the defensive side.
DJ Reader thoughts on the game from him as we continue, It's Bengals
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the Cleveland Browns and the rebound week against the Baltimore Ravens. DJ Reader played
fifty one snaps yesterday anchoring that defensive line. He talked with Dan Horde after
the game. We're in the locker room, a DJ Reader, I'm sure
that was the total opposite of what everybody in this room expected. You just
came out and really couldn't seem to get much going, particularly on the offensive
end. Yeah, me come out. We will flat. This is the
team in general. But that's tough. Yeah, I get actually drawn board.
I know it's such a cliche saying I hate saying it, honestly,
but we got good and do a thing. A lot of guys and our
team on our team that good guys play a lot of the balls. I
mean, we're not tripping up who we are. We just gotta go out
there and do it. Guys can't start flat. Is it fair to wonder
if the Bengals need to change the preseason approach and play some guys more and
you think that's a factor at all. I don't know if that's it.
I think just more so like you know, if you don't, I know
you need the reps. I know people talk about that with the Q.
Yeah, you wake up on Sunday, it's snow, the grass, everybodys
ready to go. I don't think that's the thing. But you know what
I'm saying, Oh you blank on this language. Nobody has like a what
happened? We came up with that, We got beat and he just how
it goes sometimes, man, And unfortunately that's how I was wrong in our
opening the last couple of years. So we just we gotta really get on
it. The touchdown late in the first half, did you feel like that
was a I have a big momentum swing for Cleveland? It was three nothing
at the time. Nah, because we came out, I gotta stop.
So I don't I wouldn't call it that, you know what I'm saying,
like, Oh, it just in the world when we came out, I
gotta stop three out the next So I didn't think it was a big momentum
ship. I think, well, we just didn't do it was great and
they gotta put in some touch spots and then didn't find a way out of
me, you know, So that's just really what happened. I don't I
don't think that that kind of that moment was the moment. You didn't play
in the game here last year, but the Bengals obviously, I've had a
lot of trouble in this building. Is it frustrating to come here and just
play poorly again? Things? Yeah, that's really frustrating. You never want
to go anywhere and play poorly. You took me like we're gonna stay riding.
I think unfortunately in our division would get this him twice, so we
gotta come to us next. You can't really gotta scrap this game, you
know. I can't really think about it anymore. We know this is a
great offense. It's gonna put up a lot of points. It's it almost
hard to believe when they struggle as badly as they did today, you know,
but they're used to and you know, we just go out there and
encourage them to get back to that and they'll get back to it. It's
not it's definitely different when they don't know. But get got people out of
the days. Man, It happens, and you can't expect people to be
perfect every day forcing them like this league, they expects you to be perfect
over this Sunday and I'm just working this Sunday. So guys gotta get back
to the drawing board. I think a lot of guys pride. Pride's hurt,
so I think it would be a good thing for us. You know,
you've been able to battle out of this bank against a while the last
two years, so we're going to get it. DJ Rader after the game.
That puts our first of three in the books. But hang tight,
there is much more to get to. In hours two and three, we'll
talk with Ted Carriss, Jamar Chase talk a little special teams, talk about
Joe Burrows contract. Eventually in that third hour do from Baltimore. Ravens breakdown
as well. Maybe take a look at the AFC North. One week in
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to think pleasure catch up with a gentleman who's always been very kind to us
with this time talk football. Could talk football all day long with a guy
like this because he is a football savant that's defensive coordinator lou and a Rumo
coach. We certainly do appreciate your carbon time for us my pleasure. So
defensively in the first half, you had to be pleased with how your your
group was playing. I mean that it was yards were tough to come by.
Yeah, for sure, I think, uh, you know, yesterday,
it's a team game and and uh you know, we got to come
away with a win regardless of what the situation is. But you know,
we did some really good things in the game. You know, they were
only four or fourteen on third down. The quarterback had a sixty seven QBR.
We had two takeaways, we had three sacks. You know, we
had to fumble the interception as I mentioned. And uh so, you know,
they had too many yards rushing. They also had forty attempts. And
you know the thing that we did a really good job on the front side
of the runs. And you know they were out of the forty runs,
twenty five of the forty they gained four yards or less and ten of those
twenty five there was zero or less. So we did a really good job
in the majority of them. It was the twelve or fifteen some odd ones
that we had dead to rights on the front side and they cut it back
and you know, we had got each guy had kind of put their hand
in it where we got cut out and you know they had a third down
run for a first down around midfield and then they had the quarterback draw more
of a trap type play down, uh, just before the half there that
we you know, we were in his aero blitz and caught us in a
good one there for them. But you know we we uh we played hard.
You know, we we swarmed in the ball like we wanted to.
Obviously, the number of rushing yards is too much. We can clean those
things up going forward. Cheeto gave you a forty three snaps yesterday. How
nice was it to have him back. He's one of our leaders and uh,
he really steadies, steadies things, and you know it's it's I'm glad
he did what he did and his snap channel just keep going up the better
he feels. He mentioned Chubb on that cutback. That dude, I mean
he will bend it and really bend it. I mean he from a vision
standpoint and just an ability to make that type of determination and he's about as
good in the in the league. Yeah, he's a great runner. We
all know that. And you know there's there's some where he's very very patient.
We we play him in a certain way, and there was a couple
of things where he took it really way out the back door. Uh,
it's surprised. It didn't surprise, but caught us off guard with some caught
the corners off guards some where they need to be right, you know,
tight to the line of scrimmage. And uh, that's what a guy like
that does to you, challenges you, and you know, so it will
be better your your rookie. DJ Turner gave you a good chunk of snaps.
Would you think of him? How did he hold up in his NFL
debut? Nice tackle are up? They're down? Contested, Well up,
they're down. You know, we had a new new grouping out there,
as everybody saw where you know, Mike Hilton was doing a different role and
uh you know, uh put Cheeto, Cam and DJ on the three wideouts
and you know Mike Roman around doing different things. So we'll keep building on
that. And uh, I was I was pleased with Dj Pratt eleven tackles,
seven unassisted quarterback sack, two tackles, for loss forced to fumble.
I mean, the dude, he's a he's a playmaker. And then Nick
Scott uh got involved with you know, eleven tackles as well, and uh,
Dax Hill, your other safety six tackles, two tackles for loss an
interception. I mean, you're pratt. Okay, he's he's been around,
done that for you. But you're two safety stepped up, didn't they?
It did? Okay. Jermaine and Logan were fantastic. You know, they're
they right, They get everybody lined up, They're in the right place all
the time. They you know, we're really really they are. Among other
things, they are a great screen team. The Browns are they they kill
guys, killed teams with screens. And you know, we did a really
really really good job on their screens. And it was because of those two
d the d line being aware of it. You know, they had hurt
us with the half back draw in the past and we were able to shut
that down. So, uh, you know, and and you mentioned the
two safeties. I was, uh, you know, pleased to see what
Dax how how he did he still got a ways to go, And the
same with Nick the at sack take us through that because if I remember correctly,
Pratt and Logan came together that. Yeah, it was a little this
week we had for the first game and kind of get him off schedule,
and we caught the right protection and the thing that people don't see Logan and
they slid the our front the right way to get the matchup we wanted on
the back just before the snap and was able to free themselves. So worked
out well. So your guy like Watson where the quarterback run game, I
mean improvisational or some somebody design. They ran a quarterback counter, you know
with him for example. I mean, how how much more difficult does it
make it when you get a guy like Chubb and can be complimented like a
guy like Watson until mobile. Well, it's just once the quarterback becomes a
runner, you're they can out number of blocking guys and you need to take
the post safety out of the post or the quarter sit, you know,
whatever you're doing. So it forces us to do different things and you know
we'll certainly get We're very aware of that. That's what's coming this week against
the Ravens. So you know it's not something we're not used to. It's
just when it's you're not one hundred percent sure when it's coming. You know,
we gotta be on our We gotta be on our on our game to
to know when and where and how we're supposed to stop it and fit it.
Zach Carter seemed relentless and disruptive at times. Do you like the track
he's on the growthy showing. I was very pleased with Zach. Essay,
he played like a a grown man out there. As the guys like to
say, Uh you know, he was stout at the point of attack,
and uh you know he he was. I was very pleased you your defensive
football team. Unfortunately, as the way the game unfolded, you're on You're
on the field a lot. I mean, seventy two snaps, forty rushes
Like you said, I mean, when you're when you're you're winding, you're
grinding it and stopping that run, and you know you're gonna run around and
chase a guy like Watson when you're rushing the quarterback. I mean, that's
that's definitely a challenge. They have an eleven minute and forty time and possession
advantage. I mean looked like, honestly, though, you guys are in
good shape. I mean from a cardio vasco and football shape standpoint, guys
look pretty damn good. Yeah. Again, I think Joey and those guys
do a great job getting our guys ready to go. So it's no surprise.
It was nice. You know. The rain wasn't great, but it
was it was cool, So if it was a ninety degree day, it
might have been a different story. But it was cooler up there and we
were able to handle it pretty good. Have you been encouraged throughout camp into
yesterday? You allude to the secondary and that the safety's Dacks and Nick their
communication they're same page mindset. Do you like how that's developed? Yeah?
Yeah, you know, we still got a waste to go. There was
a couple of things yesterday we could have been better on. But yeah,
we're definitely trending in the right direction for sure. Do you feel like facing
a quarterback like Watson is a precursor? I guess as such to what you
know. Nobody does everything the same. It's not like, okay, well
we're gonna see this exact same look by personnel, grouping, formation, whatever,
and and everybody has different skill sets and tape talents and and all that,
but having experienced a quarterback like Watson right before, you play a quarterback
like Jackson. Anything to that. Well, I mean they're great athletes and
uh you know, similar but different at the same time. Lamar is still
special, special athlete with the ball in his hand and so it was Deshaun
to his in his own way. So but it helps, you know,
it helps, But they are they are different too, right, They've they've
got a different offensive coordinator this year and Todd Monkin. Do you do expect
them to be much different from from an offensive standpoint? Yeah, just looking
at the first game, you can see his certainly his uh imprints on it.
But they still have the raven offense too, you know where they're gonna
try to bludgeon you in the running game, you know, and the big
bodies getting around on pullers and schemes and this that and the other thing.
So, uh, they they they certainly have have what Todd likes to do,
but there's some elements of what they've always done too. You know.
It's interesting, Like when you were just talking about their run game. Dobbin's
unfortunately he's got the achilles injury, so he's he's been They've got plenty of
others they do backs in that stable. But you mentioned offensive linemen out there
in space trying to bludgeon your getting just like Cleveland. I mean, they're
pulling those guards and doing that. There's there's some again it's not identical,
but there are some similarities to carry over from one week to the next.
Maybe AFC North right, Yeah, I mean, you know, we know
what we're dealing with, and we got tough guys. You watch Cam,
uh, Cam Teller, brit He took on Wyatt Teller and and Cam ended
up on top. You know, pretty impressive. I was proud of him.
He's one tough SLB. So he played a really good game yesterday.
Huh. That's that's the thing. I mean, when you get a chance
to really study, h take take a look at what guys did, the
effort that they gave you and everything. I mean they were. There are
a lot of winning performance stuff. People say, oh, come on,
man, you know, look look at the score. What are you talking
about. There's twenty two guys out there, and you know a lot of
guys are winning their battles and not everybody does. And that's sometimes the difference
in a successful or not successful play. But I mean, I've been in
situations where you know, we lost by like thirty points and you look at
a guy, it's like, damn, this dude, he played the best
game of his career and unfortunately he was part of a thirty point loss.
But it certainly didn't reflect on his individual performance. That happens a lot,
didn't it. Yeah, I think so. You know, just the good
news is the things we a little bit short on are easily fixed, ye
you know, and uh, you know, the guys will be. They're
already back in there lifting and running and hungry to get onto next week.
So that's what's important. I always appreciate you making time for us. Best
to luck this week, my pleasure. Guys, get a man coach.
Thanks lou An A Robo. Take time out to continue Bengals Line First Star
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we go inside the locker room. Here's Dave with Ted Carriss. Like
I said earlier, I have no adjective to describe the lack of production,
lack of execution, and we needed we need to be way better moving forward.
Ted, one thing that did offensive News take care of the football,
didn't turn the football over. You know that's one one building block, but
not a whole lot. Obviously, Well what do you You just study the
tape, learn and move on. Right, That's what we're gonna do,
Dave. Yep, We're got Baltimore coming to town, so we need a
big week and I need to get a victory. What was I mean?
Obviously Cleveland was very very aggressive with everything they did. I mean they were
bringing a lot of pressure they were playing aggressive coverage? Was the rain of
factor there? Did they think? You know what, you know it's going
to be hard to throw the ball and throw the ball deep. Let's just
play it this way. I mean rain, rain can be a factor.
I think we just need to execute. You know, our defense is execute
and they gave us a lot of chances to win the game. We didn't
do it. What do you think? And I know you just get off
off the field and a battle where a lot of things in your head right
now and you're trying to you can't remember snap after snap, But what do
you what do you think is something to build off as an offensive football team?
Learn from this? No know how much we have to execute to be
successful. And you know the margin barry is very slim in this league.
So we go back, get and get a new play into the Ravens and
be ready to go and pay him. And finally, uh, you know,
you guys went to the Super Bowl two years ago, went to the
SC Championship game last year and lost in Cleveland both times. Don't throw the
baby out with the bathwater, right, I mean, it's one football game.
Yeah, we're not gonna you know, no, one's no one's freaking
out, but you know, we have to take a look at ourselves and
get better, get ready to go for Baltimore. Ted Carriss after the game,
Dave, what did you think overall of the performance of the offensive line.
Yeah, I think there was some you know, communication things to iron
out. Ted made reference to that, U there was some communication issues between
It sounded like from a recognition h standpoint, making sure a quarterback and lyman
and everybody's on the same page. I remember one time Joe Burrow put his
hands on his hips and looked at one of them like, you know,
really, I mean, did did were you supposed to do? That?
Was that what was supposed to take place? Somebody missed a call or whatever.
And that happens particularly up there with the Dog Mountain, it being so
loud and everything. So with with the fact that they hadn't played together as
a group, the five of them taking many snaps or really any for the
most part all through preseason, with their quarterback just a very limited number.
For sure, all of that plays into it, and I think they're gonna
be light years better in that regard in this football game against the Baltimore Ravens.
And honestly, when when that's taken place, when the communication isn't firm
and solid and cohesive, now you're a little bit unsure. You're a little
bit tender. Worst thing in the world, particular one of defense is playing
as well as Cleveland w give give a fan who's never been an offensive linement
some insight when it comes to communication. What might be what's something that might
be communicated that needs to be communicated depth at that time. Okay, so
a lot of times, UH, slide protection. It'll if if the center
makes a call, all that dictates the entire line is supposed to slide,
and it doesn't get communicated all the way out to the tackle, and the
center and guard slide and the tackle doesn't. Now you're double team in the
defenseman and the blitzer comes because the center recognized something, and it's like this
is the tendency that they have, and all of a sudden you have a
free runner and you have two guys blocking one, and those those are the
kind of things that can happen and uh, and you want to try to
avoid at all costs. What have you what's been your your your thoughts on
throughout camp? The transition that Joan is making to right tackle, he seems
to have come around to accepting it and embracing it, understanding the versatility he
can show and the opportunities that may come after this season. How do you
think he's looked in that transition. Yeah, I think I think he's playing
pretty well. I really do. Again, though there's I can I can
tell you that I'm old school in this regard, but there's nothing, no
substitute for time on task in a live game situation, having all five linemen
working together as one and trying to get uh to the point where you are
one. Like I always talk about making the fist. You know, it's
five components, four fingers and wrap four fingers, curl the thumb, boom
in voluntary reaction. Strong. Now in the game, you know, as
a offensive line, if you've got four or three, you don't have a
very strong fis. You don't have a fist, you don't have that power.
So that's that's that's time on task that comes with familiarity doing it over
and over again. And you can do it in practice and go through the
mental reps and practice all you want, but in a in a game environment,
in a game condition, It's just it's a little bit different. And
until you go through that and experience that and get confidence that you know,
everybody is going to be doing exactly what they're supposed to do when they're supposed
to do it. And and like my feeling was in verbalized it, they're
gonna be much better at the end of September than they were yesterday as an
offensive line. And it's going to continue to ramp up. And was it
was it like, oh my god, was it you know, horrendous?
No, but there was definitely some things to clean up and to improve on.
There's no question. Hang tight, we're still getting revveed up. We
got a lot more to get to before we're done. At nine o'clock tonight,
up next to you here from Jamar Chase, Cam Taylor Britt Later on
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Elevate your connection with Alti Fiber. Jamar Chase targeted nine times yesterday by
Joe Burrow, connected five times for thirty nine yards a long of twelve.
Here's Jamar after the game. I mean, we didn't get a lot of
stuff going away, you know what I'm saying. We had a couple of
job passes on boats and which was again arrest a couple of times, I'm
Sam, and we just didn't execute when we had it. Looks, what
about their defense? They seemed to be real aggressive and what they were doing
in terms of pressure and in coverage with was the weather a factor there?
They decided to get more aggressive? Do you think not? Really? We
already knew the game plan for the eight defense. What we had we already
was expecting it. They did exactly what we was expecting. Like I said,
we just didn't take advantage of the opportunity that they gave us. What
do you think? Can you get your finger on why you guys just more
your self today? I don't know if he I don't know. I don't
even not answer that brou Honestly, I'm trying to figure out kind of how
to get the game. Really just man teach, trying to see what looks
we could get. They played off, They trying to run out. You
know what I'm saying. We she's trying to tell him, we'll be seeing
you know what I'm saying. He got rushed a couple of times. We
can get the ball to us, so settle for up a bad pass on
his pucause of the rush, or I throw it in the dirt. How
did you howdy? What how come it looked good to me? How't me?
I didn't see nothing? You've seen something that I ain't see nothing.
You're gonna be something. Team last year started open too, and you guys
still made the XC Championship. We know slow starts are going through derail the
season, but just stop frustrating. Is it to had to build up,
start the season, come here and not play. It's frustrating because I called
the ass elves and we just lost it some ELFs. So I'm pissed on
my party. I'm not I'm pissed on all on that. And like I
said, man, we got missed out. But tunis we didn't capitalize me
and we lost. So that's how we lost. With that said, you
went to the Super Bowl two years ago, go to the SC Championship last
year and didn't be Cleveland up here both both years. You don't throw the
baby out with the bathwater right this one game. Yeah, I'm not doing
all that. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to my party and
dude, I can do for the team. So I'm pissed that other stuff.
John's every point about it. I guess with all else stuff and all
that, what did you make up all that? He just wanted to have
some attention, So he just know what I'm saying, prepared on you for
the for the blueback when it might come with the comments you mad result of
this game, We're blowback. Man. If you say if they got a
problem with me saying something I'm saying right now, he's soft if they soft
with me saying else and they's softening Jamar after the game and firing one final
shot at the perhaps at the end. If they're soft or if they don't
like it, then they're soft. Yeah, they're soft. That's all there
is to it. It is. It is amazing to look in that pass
a pass receiving category over to LG. Long and see twelve yards being the
longest, and there was a pat would it was an eighteen yard. But
man, you think of that and think of how good they've been at the
in past years. And I know Joe may have led in thirty yard completions
are more last season. Just twelve yesterday. That's staggering. It is it
is. I looked up the longest plays and the miscellaneous stats portion of the
of the statueets and the Bengals had one play of twenty two yards of twenty
yards more twenty two yard run Joe Joe Mixon. The next longest play is
that twelve yard pass from from from Borrow and Joe Mixon had a twelve yard
run the very next snap. He went twenty two and twelve year yes,
back to back runs of thirty four yards and then nothing happened. I mean,
they just squad douche. But they only had five plays of ten yards
more in the whole game. They had a twenty two yard run from Joe
Mixon, They had the twelve yard completion from Borrow, another twelve yard run
by Joe Mixon, and two more ten yard completions from Joe Burrow. And
that is it. Five plays of ten yards and more. I mean,
come on, man, Cleveland. They had a thirty three yard completion,
two more, They had a twenty yard completion to Cooper, and then Moore
had a rush for nineteen yards. And they had a couple of seventeen yard
plays, a fifteen yard played, multiple thirteen yard plays. They had,
you know, ten plays of thirteen yards of war, and they didn't dominate.
The Bengals did a good job of limiting explosive plays by the Cleveland Browns
as well. But five plays of ten yards and more in an entire football
game for this offense, for this football team, one play of twenty yards
and more. And I mean, your longest reception is courtesy of past interference.
That's crazy. Dave. I looked at looking at the next gen breakdown
of where Joe threw the ball. There weren't a lot of throws over the
middle of the certainly down the field, and there weren't a lot of throws
over the middle of the field. Was that Is that something that the Browns
took away, something the Bengals didn't try to do. What do you make
of that? That's a good question. It might be a combination of both.
You know, Joe might felt might have felt more comfortable, I mean,
or they they decided, you know what, with the safeties that they
got. But Thornhill, he didn't even play, and when he wasn't when
he was an active there was a lot of concern up in the press box
from the media anyway, because he had had a heck of a camp and
they were a man down back there, but still played exceptionally well. I
mean, I just remember saying in the in the second half, how about
if we just throw the ball deep just to loosen them up a couple of
just throw it deep or a time or two. And the first time they
threw a deep got the pass interference penalty, and then threw another one like
right away. It was the first drive in the second half. They forced
Cleveland to go three. Now Bengals get the football and they go down the
field a couple of times. Because it had been screens, perimeter passes,
it had been dink and dunk to the it was like you're playing football in
a closet, like we talked about before, and with the weapons and everything
you got here, I mean, let's challenge him a little bit. I
mean's let's uh, let's let's air it out. So hopefully that that occurs
and it's gonna be That's something I think you gotta do. You have to
challenge the entire football field. You can't let the Baltimore Ravens lock in and
play top down and not have to worry about things behind them much more to
get to in this hour earlier than they are. You heard lou Anna Rumo
call Cam Taylor brit One tough s ob. We'll hear from that one.
Tough s ob, Cam Taylor Britt. As we continue in this hour,
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Cam. Taylor Britt played seventy three of a possible seventy four defensive snaps yesterday.
Let's go inside the locker room. Here's Kim Taylor Britt with Dan horror
Cam. It's a team game, but I thought the defense played reasonably well.
What do you think? I felt like we did. But most definitely
I feel like, also the office can't get the bond ins on. I
feel like we need to step on and trying to get into insus. You
know what doesn't get an interceptions listen, trying to take a beat man.
We get us fumbles. Let's trying to think about let's you know, Chinese
and narrative of a game. You know, on defense, you know,
in the positive way. I did have a couple of takeaways, Dax had
his first career pick. Yeah, I guess those were the biggest positives.
So the defensive prospected out that. Yeah, most definitely. I thought,
you know, tiptoe down the sideline, told him like, go get in
the end zone. Man. But and I I see he'll go get it
next time there. I said, I'm a most shocking when Joe and the
offense struggle to the extent that they did today. Work tell you to say,
so, you know, just because we see it every day. You
know, it doesn't matter, uh, the the situation as far as like
the weather or anything, but we see it every day, you know,
and not to see that, you know, it is what it is.
You know, we know he'll come back next week because you know, play
like this. And when did you get the sense that this just wasn't going
you know, it wasn't going to be the Bengal stay. I say,
four quarter, I've finish game. So I didn't never think that throughout the
whole game until two minutes left, three minutes left. You know, when
I've seen those you know, honestly out of reach, then uh, we
couldn't have any more possessions or anything. So yeah, yeah, it started
owing two last year and you got a chance to avoid that next week and
this next week's game. Take on a little added juice. It's always got
a juice mass and it's the vid the game. We felt like that this
game as well. And then he just got the better hand of us Kam
Taylor Britt after the game. And you know, when we were sitting here
with Lou, I like it. There's sometimes he hit on a play or
a player and Lou's eyes will spark a little bit and you could see a
little spark in his eye when he talked about Cam Taylor Britton and for those
who missed it earlier, he said he's one tough s ob. He went,
he'll go nose to nose with anybody on the field. And Wyatt Taylor,
this beast. Wyatt Taylor is a full grown man. Uh And and
that's exactly what Cam Taylor Brit was called by his defensive coordinator. And because
he ended up on top of Wyatt Taylor on a big collision. So that
that that's getting it done. Why Taylor probe Wyatt Taylor a pro bowler.
They've got Joel Bettonio a pro bowler. That tantem of guards is as good
as they're gonna facing the National Football League. Pulling and getting into the perimeter
and working against the smaller edge people. The Cleveland Browns look at that as
a as a big advantage as do the ball to more ravens. So they're
gonna have to step up on the on the back end again. When they're
the edge guy and they got run support on the edge, they have to
battle the big beasts and you know, at least stalemate that block. If
you're gonna give yourself up one for one, you don't want to get dominated
one for one and make it tough on your teammates. At least, you
know, make that wash and then your teammates can pursue inside out and make
plays for you. Well, you see what Cam did yesterday, Dex He'll
gets his first interception and you see those young guys and the the the growth
potential and the way they're the arrow is putting on their graph. It gets
you awfully excited. Asn't it. It does. I mean I think that
uh, you know, Nick Scott, I thought played well back there.
I thought the communication between the safeties looked pretty good. So he's the old
guy back there going into his fifth year. Everybody else is you know,
a kid, uh, second year player but missed most of the first year
due to the injury. You know, you got rookies. You got second
year player Cambridge who started about half the season and really came on strong.
And now year two is gonna be a big I think jump for him,
a big growth year. And he's already shown that. So they're they're they're
young, but they're talented, there's no question. Boy. And you mentioned
Nick and you hit him on your on your show on Friday, and he
sounds like, well he's only five years and he sounds like a wily veteran.
He's a guy who who gets it and just the perspective he offers as
somebody who sees the big picture of all of it. Yeah. And the
super Bowl winner yep, you know, and and that that's cred with young
players. Oh man, the guys, he his team, they went to
the Super Bowl and they wont it. Wow, this guy's world champion.
I'm gonna listen to this guy, and he's a good guy to listen to
because he gets it. He gets it on every level. I mean,
he knows how to prepare. He's he's very football intelligent. He's very intelligent
overall. Uh, he's a good leader, a good communicator. He's a
good guy. Emulate, there's no question about it. We've hit on offense,
We've hit on defense. What do you say we spend a little bit
of time on special teams. When we continue and wrap up our second of
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the new punter. Certainly his legs probably saw today punny ten times and
it was a I thought it was a mixed bag. There were some moments
he said, oh yeah, and then there was some moments he oh no,
right, yeah, I agree. You know, on the one,
Darren Simmons wanted him to pin him, you know, back inside the twenty,
hopefully inside the ten yard line, and uh Dan made mention of it
during the game at mission. He had no touch about that, and then
he got one in his first NFL game on that particular punt. Ten punts.
Though you'd hope a rookie wouldn't punt ten times in the first month of
his career. He's putting ten times in one game. And I agree.
I thought as I saw him boarding the plane, I thought he had a
limp. That right leg looked a little longer than the left. Had hitch
him to get along and he stretched that bad boy out. He also had
a fifty four yard or did have a The one was almost it was a
low snap and almost got blocked, but he got it off at time.
Yeah, and that that one was that one was close, and uh,
you know, there was one that kind of sliced off the outside of his
foot a little bit, but you know, it's it's gonna happen. He
he was definitely the thing I like about him. He comes to the sideline
and Darren either I'm not sure if he's in some cases giving him compliments.
I know in a lot of cases he's dressing him down and Robbins will just
fold his hands behind his back and stand and look and take it all in.
And then when Darren's done, he'll nod, turn around and walk away.
And Darren walks away and it's over, you know. And he bottom
line is my point, he takes coaching and he takes it well. I
mean he doesn't. He's not offended by his take it personally, you know,
darn he knows Darren Simmons is trying to make him as good a player
as he possibly can be, huh. And he handles that part of it
well. Rookie Charlie Jones on punt returns backtrack and I don't know if if
he lost track of where he was, but fielded one and around the six,
and then the one that really jumped out to me, he tried to
run horizontally and he almost felt like he reached one of those moments where he
said, oh crap, this isn't the big ten anymore, and I'm not
tried to outrace like Iowa Nebraska from sideline to sideline to get the corner.
And he never got the quarner. Right, Yeah, that's that's an AHA
moment. These guys, there's a bunch of them. Yeah, run not
just a guy. Everybody runs in the National Football League. And they're pretty
big, pretty good sized guys. Yeah, it's uh, it's a cut
above. There's no doubt Evan. Evan missed the fifty one year oder could
have cut it to think that would have cut it to ten six, and
they never did. That was a chance to get some points after a turnover,
and they never did get points after the two turnovers. Yeah, on
each could have cut it to ten six there, but but missed the fifty
one yarder and and really at that point, I thought, Okay, returned
the ball to the fifty you got you got half a field and negotiate for
a touch on let's let's get after it here. Let's get right back in
this football game. Tie this thing up. It's the second half, you
know, shake off that first half, Blues make adjustments and uh, you
know, six plays for seventeen year yards. That's about what they were.
They were under three yards of play for the game. That's about what they
were doing on a drive by drive basis. I mean, that's just incredible.
One hundred and forty two yards and fifty four snaps two point six yards,
just a little over two and a half yards of play. Man with
with all the all the players that you look out there in the huddle and
think, when's it gonna happen? When they're gonna they're gonna get it together
and there's gonna be an explosive drive here somewhere. Yes, it's gonna be
an explosive play somewhere, and it never did come to fruition. That is
two in the books. How about our number three. We'll circle back around
talk a little bit about the much talked about approach to camp and whether the
starters had enough time to get ramped up. We'll get into Joe signing the
big deal over the weekend officially preview those Baltimore Ravens. Maybe take a look
at the rest of the AFC North as well the Steelers performance. Speaking of
teams who did play a lot of the starters during training camp, but it
didn't go so well for the Steelers yesterday. We'll look at that and so
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It's Bengals Line, We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven
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hearing from coaches and players and talking a lot about the Browns game. A
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com. All right, Dave, let's go big picture here. You know,
one of the big topics of conversation coming out of yesterday continues to be
the approach to camp, the approach to the preseason. If it if it
didn't position the Bengals well enough for yesterday. You've watched camps year and in
year out over the years, in the in the decades, and the approach
to pre how much of a role did it play? Did it play a
role in the performance yesterday? In your opinion, that's a good question.
I mean, I don't know if I have a whole answer on that,
because you know, Joe Burrow's calf injury is a huge variable, yep in
that thing. But specifically from an offensive line standpoint, playing next to guys
on either side of me, I feel I would feel much more comfortable going
into a game against a defensive front like the Cleveland Browns were presenting having worked
in a live situation, being a preseason game against number ones from the other
opponent. And that was always the case when we played. I mean,
we would play six preseason games and the starters would play a half into the
third quarter, well over half. In my second year was seven because of
the Hall of Fame game, and they were playing starters. We played the
Washington Redskins, and I don't think they had a guy in there roster that
didn't have fifteen years experience, So George Allen had no choice but to play
like Ron mcgol and all these guys, you know, Diron Talbot, those
are the guys I was playing against. I mean, I'm out there a
Stott Knows kid, you know, like twenty three years old, and these
guys could be my dad. You know. It's like they're into their late
thirties. You know, they're playing, they're playing defensive tackle, old man
strength, and those guys could play. But but yeah, I mean,
that's that's kind of you know what what I remember and envisioned getting ready for
the season. So in my opinion, it's not a shock when I see
that that they're not at the level that you need to be to start the
season because they haven't really experienced it yet. And and now the first four
weeks of the regular season, in my estimation, are equivalent to the first
you know, they're like the six preseason games that we played, so just
about the first month of the National Football League season in my mind is it
was that way anyway, you're always going to improve, but the way they
handle exhibition games now it's, uh, it's you definitely are going to be
a much better team in October November than you were in September. And let's
also remember, for those who say that was the sole reason Joe bur whether
whether Zach decided, no matter what Zach decided, had he played them all,
they were going to be playing without Joe Burrow for five weeks. So
for those who complained about maybe the timing was off between Joe and his wide
receivers, playing them during the preseason without Joe wasn't going to fix that.
They would have been playing with Trevor Simeon and Jake Browning during the preseason,
right and you know you could say, oh, well, maybe the offensive
line if they played together in the preseason, could have given Joe Moore time
and taking care of business a little bit more and made it easier easier for
Joe. Bottom line is when Joe was thrown the football because of the drizzle
and everything in the conditions in the game, I mean, it wasn't his
most accurate day anyway. So I mean you factor in that variable, you
factor in the variable that they hadn't played. There's and let me tell you,
when you've got twenty two players going against each other, there's a massive
amount of variables on a snap by snap basis. And like you said,
Pittsburgh, I mean Tomlin played his guys, they got smoked. I mean
you're gonna find and early in the season it's when upsets occur. Uh,
It's there's no question about it. And teams will lose games in the early
stage and the season like how they how they As the season wears on and
everybody kind of settles into what they are and who they are, people looked
at how they lose that game, Well, they weren't that football team.
They weren't playing at that level at that point in time. But it is
this this one is so frustrating because it's not just that they lost the game,
It is how they lost the game. They look so bad offensively.
Uh, you know, averaging two point six yards per play, I mean
two point per snap, not per rush. That's that's that's a bad day
at the office if you can't run the ball for better than two point six
but per snap with these guys, Wow, let me ask you. Let
me ask you a dumb question. When it comes to rain, how much
And I'm trying to remember and I wasn't you were out there every day.
I was certainly not out there every day, But I'm trying to remember how
much it actually rained during camp? How much can you simulate playing in the
rain in terms of yeah, you can't make it rain. You can't tell
my other natred rain. But you mentioned the dunking of the balls and the
how much preparature simulation can be done for rain, Yeah, I mean it's
it's difficult because when it's when it's just that misty rain, it's not it's
not pouring, it's not torrential, so the ball doesn't get drenched, it
just gets it just gets like a slippery slick surface on it, you know,
And and with the resins that are on the ball. And you see
the kickers, you know, in quarterbacks was scrape, scrape, They're scraping
the resin off. They want to have that that leather feel on their fingertips,
you know. And uh, and and my experiences, particularly when I
was playing center and trying to snap it when it was just if it was
soaking wet, no problem. Ball and dry obviously, no problem. But
man, when it was just a little bits a little bit wet, it
was so slippery, I'm telling you it was. It was amazing. And
that was the kind of uh, the kind of day that it was for
for the quarterbacks and everybody else yesterday. And let's also Joe Joe. And
we'll get into Joe and the big contract and what it means in the next
segment. But Joe is I take him as somebody who is very meticulous and
reps are important and practice is important, and that wasn't there for a five
week period and you can't you can't cheat that preparation. And when he came
back in the final ten days, two weeks whatever, you get up now
exactly, and you can take all the mental reps you want. You can
be watching tape and preparing and have in your head exactly what you're gonna do
and how you're gonna do it. But if you're in an out there,
not out there getting the muscle memory of doing it, it's like you can
try to you can try to force it, you can try to force that
preparation, but there's there's no substitute for time on task period. You know,
time is maybe the most valuable commodity that ever anybody has in any occupation
or any walk of life or life in general. And same for football.
It's like you have to have the time and then be able to utilize that
time with repetition. Repetition breeds comfort level, time on task, working with
the guys you're going to be working with. It's there's no substitute for it,
and when you don't have it, you don't get it. It shows
is there also in conclusion, circling back around to the opponent, is there
something to be said for if you were to draw up a bad matchup for
the Bengals, that bad matchup would look like the Cleveland Browns. I hear
a lot about that they're just a bad matchup for him. Is there something
to that? Yeah? I mean part of it becomes almost like a self
fulfilling prophecy. It's like, man, just haven't played well up there in
Cleveland, and then you you verbalize it, and now it's like, Okay,
that's that's a fact, and there's but but there are I mean,
I think I think the Cleveland Browns have a sense of uber confidence for whatever
reason against the Cincinnati Bengals, and the Cincinnati Bengals are this is, you
know, our Achilles Heel. I mean, we just we have trouble up
there in Cleveland, and it's just it does become almost like a self fulfilling
prophecy, it really does. But it's crazy. Like I said, they
they got handled up in Cleveland in the last two years and all they did
was go to a Super Bowl and go to the NFC Championship Game. And
it's not That's not to say that it's gonna happen again. I mean,
you got a lot of work left, that's that's for sure. The first
thing you got to do is get over it, put it away, and
move on to the Baltimore Ravens and make sure you take care of business against
them, or you'll find yourself. Oh and two in the Division one at
home one on the road. You know, the final point on all this
there is the clear the yin and the yang too don't play the starters in
the preseason because you don't want anybody hurt. And that's great and to their
to their credit on this side of the column, they won their final ten
last year. They positioned as winners to in consecutive years go to a Super
Bowl and go to the AFC Championship games. So it's not like there's no
evidence that the previous plan hadn't worked. So to speak. I get the
frustration that comes with losing in Week one, and it's easy to say it's
the preseason and it's a lack about this and lack of that. Just the
most recent evidence says it worked pretty well in how they ended seasons. True,
and again with me, I always look at, Okay, there are
losses and then there are losses. You know, I mean, you lose
football games. And that was a good game, I mean, good effort
both teams, this one tape, this this loss, it's like I mean,
but again in our conversation with Lou and Rumo, defensively they did a
lot of good things. Offensively, you have to scour the take. To
find good things, you have to absolutely almost make them up. At least
they didn't turn it over. There you go, there's a positive that was
the big thing was ball security. There's there are no two ways about it,
particularly when you look at what we talked about. Both quarterbacks referenced about
the slickness of the football. All Right, we come back some thoughts on
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You had a wrap up thought on our discussion in segment one. Yes,
and I really believe in definitely Zach Taylor's case, It's gonna be hard
pressed to get him to change his mind about the concept of playing players starters
in preseason because he's a Sean mcvagh disciple, and Sean mcvayh doesn't, and
he is the leader of that hack, of that mentality of starters. And
Zach Taylor won a super Bowl there, then he comes here and implements it
and goes to the super Bowl, and then the next year he goes to
the SC Championship gap. So he's gonna say, what the hell in the
last handful of years, I won a super Bowl, I was on a
team that won a Super Bowl. I was on a team that got to
the Super Bowl, and I was on a team that got to the FC
Championship game. I believe. I'm a believer, and you're gonna have a
hard time convincing me otherwise. And there are a number of teams around the
NFL whose fan bases were probably yelling when one of their guys got hurt in
a preseason game. Who would have said, I can't believe we were playing
that guy in a preseason game and now he's done for the season. It's
one of those uh topics, yep, and that you damned if you do
and damned if you don't, and it's just you're just planning the odds and
you're you're hoping you're right. Let's let's get into some Joe Borrow contract conversation.
The big news of the week certainly of the extension, and he puts
pen to paper on Saturday. And I said this earlier in the week.
It's when when you're in a position to sign somebody and give them two hundred
and seventy five million dollars. One, that's staggering. But two, I
said, if you were the Brown family or anybody in the organization, you
have to be able to put your head on the pillow and sleep comfortably at
night knowing you're giving it to somebody like Joe Burrow. Yeah, that's true.
And uh and Joe Burrow has life changing money for himself, his family,
his foundation that does a lot of good for kids that need food,
you know, I mean, they're just hungry. And he does it here
in Cincinnati, doesn't Athens. He does it down in Baton Rouge. And
uh, you know he's going to do a lot of good things with that
money, There's no question about it. And you're right. The last thing
an owner would want to do is give a guy two hundred and seventy five
million and somebody just starts blowing it on haphazardly, crazy bunch of junk and
to yourself, what the heck? I mean, that's that's like, that's
that's the worst nightmare. Well, no coach or owner wants that phone call.
You never want the phone to ring at one or two in the morning
and it's your security team saying so and so was in trouble. That's never
gonna happen with Joe Burrow. Absolutely, I mean, Joe Burrow is uh,
he's he's a model for not just football teams, he's a model for
how to how to live your life. There's no question about it. And
in the Borough family, you know, he and his family, they there's
Jimmy and Robin Burrow have raised a phenomenal son. There's no question. They
got to be proud as proud as pune, proud as parents can be,
and and and and really they're they're a big part of his foundation. It's
a family, it's a family affair, as they say. So there's a
lot of good that's going to come out of that out of that contract for
sure. And and honestly, Lance, I think that Dan asked in the
pregame, do you think that that Joe Burrow will let it go? You
know, physically in this first game, or do you think he'll play a
little bit tentatively? And I said, well, in my mind is two
hundred and seventy five million reasons said he will let it go, and two
hundred and nineteen millions of him are guaranteed because now that contract. If he
had not signed that contract, it's like should I shouldn't I What if I
get hurt? What if I get hurt? And now what's going to happen
in the negotiations. The fact that that was dead and done before the season
started, I think gave him the final peace of mind is let's go out
there and and give it what we've got here. I also, I love
to I forget who asked the question. But but Joe's comment was about what
if he was going to buy anything big and he said, I guess I
can go on Amazon. Now it takes something out that I see that I
like, I said, you know, show you got this life changing contract.
Any celebration, you know, really you know, it's it's not that
time to do. I mean, that's not that's not his m O.
Anyway, maybe uh, you know, maybe a few minutes the celebration then
move on. I gotta play foot well. Got the Cleveland Browns coming up,
it didn't work out too well, but now you got the Baltimore Ravens
coming up. We would also be remiss if we did not bring up the
role and the involvement of Katie Blackburn in getting this deal done and the respect
she garners around the league in situations like this in contract negotiations. No question,
she is a caponomics mathn and no doubt about it. I mean she
is somebody that other general managers in the league kind of look to. She
sets trends. I mean, she sets a good example. And like Mike
Brown has said, she was a math major at Dartmouth economics math. She
knows of what she speaks when the numbers are involved, and she's been extremely
creative. And that's the thing is the parameters of the contract. It's two
hundred and seventy five million, but he does have two years left on his
original contract, so this is an extension. They have them now for seven
years, counting this season as one of the seven. So how much is
frontloaded to leave you know now that it's not as heavy in these two years
salaries, how much of it will be frontloaded bonus, how much of it
will be backloaded in terms of the bigger salaries. So in the middle,
you know you're gonna be able to make some adjustments with respect to your roster
and all that goes along with that. And that's where Katie is brilliant.
That's where she is amongst the pioneers in the National Football League in that regard.
She's done a hell of a job that way. That's a great point.
Maybe a little bit more on that, and we'll get into the Ravens
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to backtrack quickly, before we get into the Ravens something. You were talking
about the vision for the Sary cap and Katie Blackburn and the contracts and negotiations,
because it's it's never about just one player, one deal. There's always
dominoes at fall. And I can't imagine looking up on a board of of
the roster and the age and the contract status and the SARI cap hits and
trying to manage all of that to keep this team. It's a damn good
team. It's a it's a young, talented team, but every bill comes
due eventually, and you've got to have a big picture vision to handle all
of that. And there's tough decisions to be made. There are, there's
no question Lance, and you look at it. The last two drafts,
every rookie has made the team and then you're in a college free agent offensive
lineman make the team as well. So now why is important? While you
don't you don't have a quarterback that's on a rookie contract anymore. You just
signed him to a mega deal right now, it's the richest deal in the
history of the National Football League. How do you make that work? In
terms of the ying and Yanga cap. You have to have a younger roster,
and their roster they've got something like accounting practice squad. They get fifty
three players that are five years or less experienced in the NFL. There heaviest
years in the league is Tyler Boyd at eight. They don't have anybody in
the end on their roster with ten years of more NFL experience. I think
take care of at thirty is their oldest player. Who's the oldest player yep,
and he's I think in his eighth year as well, with Tyler as
his eight. Tyler's younger and Ted because of what took place at the collegiate
career level. But it's, uh, you know, those are the things
that you have to you have to do, and you look at the scouting
department, say guys, let's let's put the baton ball now, let's make
sure we get guys that can contribute because we have to make this football team
younger. We can go out there in free agency, but in free agency
it's they're coming into their second contract. They're not free agents until that first
contract is up. So I mean it's not prohibitive to get somebody into uh
to sign a second contract. But we have to supplement it with rookies,
and let's do our best to staff this organization with the best rookie classes we
can. In two years in a row, they've all made the football team.
Yeah, And when you can plug into value of being able to plug
in somebody like Cam Taylor, brit Or or Dax Hill, allows you that
that fork in the road of we love Jesse Bates, we love Von Bell,
but we can't keep everybody. And we've got Dax Hill in the pipeline
and he's certainly ready. And it just it makes your decisions. They're tough
decisions, but they're made easier if you draft well and plug those players in
who ascend to assume roles. Yeah, I think I think the successful organizations
in the National Football League now are never gonna have to have a tear down
and rebuild. It's just remodeling, you know. It's like I'm gonna We're
gonna, you know, tweak this front, this roster a little bit,
tweaking here, tweaking there. But never get yourself in a situation where,
oh my gosh, we missed, we abuse the salary capital. We have
to tear this whole thing apart. We have to tear down and start over
again. You know, never never put yourself in that situation where you have
to tear it down to the foundation level. Just make sure that the framework
and the structure and all the all the kind of things that you need to
uh uh to work with. You might be able to put another coat of
paint or put up plaster on instead of stucco or whatever you can. You
can tweak it and make it look a little different, but not tear it
down. Not tear that thing down. I think that's what the Bengals are
doing a pretty good job of. Final thought, Before we get into the
Ravens, we mentioned a lot of things. I don't think we any point.
We mentioned the tight end position IRV Smith Junior and what they got out
a tight end yesterday. Impressions of earth Smith yesterday, Yeah, I mean,
I think it's hard to I think it's hard to make an evaluation on
anybody from that football game. Yeah it was bad. Yeah, it was
just a just a bad performance. I remember one throw to him on I
think it was a third and one of the sideline and Joe's throw was high
and I thought he probably still could have caught it, but it was like
that's an example of throw high catch not made. There there's your day,
like like I said, a tickoff, yes, you know, it's like,
okay, the throw was a tickoff and oh just almost just and then
all of a sudden, a tick here, a tick there, you know,
everywhere tick to. Everybody's ticked off. That's what it ends up.
Because it's twenty fourth three. You know you got spanked. You were a
tickoff. You're not on TikTok, are you? He's not. He's drawed
the line right there. My only TikTok is listen o'clock. There you go,
head down the stretch. Now, I'll get to the Ravens next.
I promise. He's Dave Lapham. I'm Lance Pacalister. It's Bengals Line.
We're on the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW and down
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little spice in your life. There you beat it. Yes, Baltimore Ravens
beat the Houston Texans twenty five to nine. I in reading and listening to
many different accounts of the game, the word that came up a lot was
an offense out of sync. They're still learning Todd Monk and offense. We
talked with Lou about it earlier. It's a little bit there's gonna be some
different things in it with what they're trying to do. Lamar Jackson had a
pedestrian day quarterbacking through it, only through it twenty two times seventeen to twenty
two for only one hundred and sixty nine yards, had an interception, he
did fumble the ball, only ran at six times for thirty eight yards.
But they were going against the Texans team with a rookie quarterback in c.
J. Stroud. We got three rushing touchdowns on the day from the Ravens
and they get out with a sixteen point win. Yeah, it's gonna be
very interesting to see what the what the Bengals do. They ran some five
man defensive line yesterday when the Cleveland Browns went big when they went with twelve
and thirteen personnel, that being two and three tight ends and a lot of
times when they went thirteen it was an extra offensive lineman to boot. It
wasn't just a tight end when they when they were playing in the Baltimore Ravens
with the prior coordinator who wanted to just run the heck out of the football,
they played five two defense pretty extensively. They can do that if needed.
Monkin is giving the idea, Like coming out of Cleveland, all I
heard was, Oh, Cleveland Browns are going to go eleven personnel and they're
gonna spread the field with all kinds of receivers and have Deshaun Watson. And
I'm like, I don't know if I can believe it. And then you
have a backlight job. I'm not sure that I take the ball out of
his hands all that much. And they mixed it up, but they did
go with their two and three tight end packages and they had the extra offensive
linemen in there and all those kind of things. I do think the Baltimore
Ravens when they see the Cincinnati Bengals gave up two hundred yards on forty carries,
that they're gonna say, that's the recipe. We're gonna make sure that
we get the running game. We don't ignore the running game. We're gonna
make sure we're we're running the football. Now. They did suffer a significant
injury j K. Dobbins going down with the achilles, But you got to
ask Gus Edwards. You have Dax Hill's brother Justice, who is a heckup
football player as well. Yeah, he had two touchdowns yesterday, yep.
And that that offensive line is a is an offensive line that can It can
be very very physical and they can pull and get on into space as well.
Kevin Zeitler is still there. Seems like he's been in the league twenty
years now. They're they're going a good offensive line up front. Ronnie Stanley
is a athletic left tackle. Uh Marky Andrews at the tight end position is
as good as there is in the National Football League. You're gonna have to
make sure you have packages to nullify him. I mean, it's gonna be
a good old AFC North old fashion slopper knocker. That's what it's gonna be.
You mentioned the Dobbins injury. They lost Marcus Williams, a defensive back,
to a shoulder, which I believe the initial thought is it's a significant
injury. And uh oh, Zay Flowers, the rookie wide receiver yesterday had
was targeted ten times. Lamar threw at twenty two times twelve at ten of
those targets where it is a Flowers the rookie had nine catches for seventy eight
yards long of twenty one. But he seems to have and justifiably still create
a little bit of a buzz and an exciting element in that passing game.
Yeah, there's no question. And I do think with Lamar Jackson, not
only the improvisational running game, but we saw a little bit of it with
Sean Watson. You saw the quarterback county, you saw the quarterback draw.
All of those things and more are gonna be in the football game with Lamar
Jackson at the quarterback position. I just I know, I know that's not
Monkin's deal, but if you've got a guy that can execute it as well
and successfully as Lamar Jackson has done. I just at some point as a
coordinator, I'm like, I'm not going to force feed something to a guy
that is going to be tough for him to execute. I'm gonna take his
talents and I'm gonna embellish my game plan with what this guy can do best.
And so to me, Lamar Jackson, you got to consider him at
this point maybe their biggest weapon in the running game. How about Sunday will
feature two quarterbacks on the field who have signed contracts combining over almost over a
half billion with a B dollars Lamar two hundred and fifty million, Joe two
seventy five, over a half billion dollars in quarterback buddy, not so crazy.
And when they came to the agreement, uh here in Cincinnati with Joe
Burrow the day of that uh agreed upon contract Paul Brown's birthday nineteen and I'm
like, Okay, that's that's the football gods are at work, because he
was all about the quarterback. I mean Ottod Graham all the way through.
I mean Greg Cook, Greg Cook and and and Kenny Anderson, and I
mean boomer size Pro Bowl quarterbacks here with the Bengals Pro Bowl quarterbacks that they
that he had in Cleveland. I mean, he's all about the quarterback.
And on his birthday, his quarterback gets two hundred and seventy five million.
I bet PB raised one eyebrow and then both eyebrows in shock. He have
believed that God dressed the soul wherever he is. But he also wouldn't believe
that TV money is what twenty billion dollars coming up and the next contract or
whatever, and franchises the worst six billion dollars. Now. He bought the
Cincinnati Bengals in nineteen sixty seven for sixty million bucks. Nice return on investment.
Way to go. Final thought on the Ravens on the defensive side,
Roquan Smith, who they got last year in a trade and really made it
a difference right away, made a difference again yesterday. He had sixteen combined
tackles, He had a sack, He had two tackles for Lazzi had a
quarterback that guy does. He did everything when he was in Chicago with the
Bears, and he's doing everything for him now when he's in Baltimore with the
Ravens. Yeah, he is. He's a force. There's no question about
it. And their their back end. You know, Marlon Humphrey. Of
course, Jamar Chase has torched him, There's no question about that. From
Marlin Humphrey is a player. And the back end of the front is where
Harbaugh and the and the Baltimore Ravens have made sure that they're very good in
the back end, because that's where he cut his teeth, you know,
as a coordinator, as a second a special teams coordinator, secondary coach,
and everything goes along with that. So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.
Both of these teams know each other cold, there's no doubt about that.
So what wrinkles, what twists, what adjustments are going to be made?
From Week one to Week two? Ravens coming off a victory, Bengals
coming off a defeat. Half the league is undefeated, half the league is
winless. That's the way it is. After Week one, let's head down
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Dave, let's remind them and they certainly should not forget about lay it on
us. Yeah, we are doing a podcast in the Trenches with Dave lapphaman
It's brought to you by First Star Logistics on a pretty regular basis. We've
I've been doing it, gosh, I guess a couple of years now anyway,
and do it from a studio up there. Get it's pretty much Bengals
focused and NFL focused. This past week, for example, some of the
guests included Peter King, Bloomer Sis and talk about keys to the game,
talk about matchups and all that sort of thing. So gonna be doing it
again this week. And I think last week in the opener we probably overdid
it. I think we posted a podcast just but every day are close to
it, I think, but we post a couple of times a week,
maybe three times a week, on a fairly regular basis. So it's very
enjoyable and uh, you know, it's interesting to get people's perspective, not
just players and coaches within the Cincinnati Bengals organization, but the national perspective from
guys like Chris collins Worth, who's picking the Bengals to win the Super Bowl
this year. But yeah, Boomerisias and Peter King, people of that ilk
uh that that do have a Cincinnati connection some way, shape or form.
Peter King covered the team in the early stages of his brilliant career, and
of course we know Boomer and Chris were great players for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Yes, and I loved your your post game wrap up last night with Dave
Burke. There was pause and then you said, I gotta go. I
gotta get on the bus. I gotta get on the bus. Yeah.
It was like, hey, uh, but gotta go. Got it bored
up? You mean they're not you know what you mean? Zach isn't saying
hey, hang on last and the trenches is there still going on? That
was good? That was good. Uh, look ahead. Two things to
look ahead too this week. One, AJ is gonna be back in town.
AJ Green is the ruler of the Jungle perfectly time because he ruled the
Baltimore Ravens when he played. I'm telling you John Harbos said, are we
ever gonna beat these guys? When they with AJ Green a Cincinnati Bengal.
I mean it was like they did. They owned the Baltimore Rags and a
lot of it was due to AJ had two hundred yards receiving day, you
know, against the Baltimore Ravens, and many, many times were explosive,
big play touchdowns that ended up being the deciding points in a football game.
Yeah. I saw a picture yesterday Andy Dalton had posted on Instagram. AJ
was AJ and Andy were together yesterday for the photo I guess prior to the
game. I think it was. But it was good to see those two
together yesterday. Yes, there's no doubt those those guys made made a lot
of beautiful music together. There's no doubt about that a football standpoint. Yeah,
well, let's circle back around something you said earlier. At least to
your eye, there was no one of the positives out of yesterday, was
there. There didn't seem to be any knock on wood, any significant injuries
or injuries that might be something to keep an eye on during the week for
the most Yeah, Yeah, I think so it didn't. It didn't seem
like there cam sample. I noticed him limping off the field and the result
of the play was a holding penalty on Teller that brought brought a play back
from the Cleveland Browns, and he was involved in a pile up of bodies
as a result of that holding penalty in his ankle got tweaked a little bit,
but he's gonna be looks to be okay. And I didn't notice anybody
else that was struggling to get off the field, or any kind of medical
attention on the sideline or anything. But sometimes you never know. Man.
You go to bed after you know, a physical game, you wake up
the next morning and you got a little bit of a nothing significant, but
you know, a tweak or bump or brew something you gotta take care of.
But I think most hands are gonna be on deck, So their health
is pretty good right now. What do you say we get? They're here
one week from tonight, discuss a win over the Ravens. All will be
right in the world. The Bengals will be one and one and we'll be
good to go. How's that? Yeah? One on one, one on
one in the division? Back to even Stephen and uh go on to go
on a run. That'd be nice. If we're sitting here at O and
two, we'll just blame me, Youd, that's what we'll do. But
just blame me. Everybody blames you had when things don't go well, right
d Thanks for hanging out with us, everybody. We'll do it again next
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