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Good evening. I'm Gary Jeff Walker, and I am so embarrassed. I'm

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this nineteen eighty four forty years later. I've got sid Roth, who is

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suffering from Joe Biden disease. But
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to own and bear firearms. Once
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Been a long time, Dan was, how are you? Danny?

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Hey? Gary? Jeffs so great, great to be on your show,

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and you're you're my favorite radio host. How's that? Oh geez, I'm

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gonna go back with this love fest. Let's get down to the nitty gritty.

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Let's get let's get down to tech
tax facts. Dan. All right,

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mister, was first off, you
live in New York and you have

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been dealing. You have been dealing. You have been dealing with h with

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the the face that is the once
appointed now elected somehow Governor Cathy Local and

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her continued efforts to try to take
guns out of the hands of law abiding

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New York citizens. No matter what
the Supreme Court says, no matter what

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the Constitution's Bill of Right says,
no matter what the law is, they

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are always trying to find a way
in New York to upend our constitutional right

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to bear and to own firearms.
And there's a brand new gun grab on

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the horizon in New York. It
hasn't passed yet, but it was a

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bill introduced in the New York Senate. So if you can elaborate on that

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a little bit as we begin,
well, in this particular one they're trying

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to go it looks like it's another
attempt to go after your manufacturer. Now,

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the gun grabbers have always wanted to
go after the manufacturers. They think

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of that as cutting the head off
the snake. If they can put the

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manufacturers out of business or prevent them
from selling in their particular state, in

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this case New York. Uh,
that's success to them. So in this

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case now, and I should mention
that there's a thing called the Protection of

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Lawful Commerce in Arms Act and what
that is. It's a it was a

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law put in place to protect firearm
manufacturers from being sued for the misuse of

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mishandling or illegal use of their of
their products. So in other words,

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if somebody goes out and hurts somebody
with a gun, you know, glock

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or Smith and Wesson can't get in
trouble for it, theoretically because it's it's

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not their fault. They didn't do
it, uh this, But what happens

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is they want to try to.
They they've hated that PLCAA because it protects

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the fire arm manufacturers. They want
it to be where you could just,

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you know, sue firearm manufacturers anytime
you want it. But but we can't

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do that. We shouldn't be able
to do that. They you know,

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it's like almost like if if you
had a if you wanted to sue General

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Motors because somebody, uh you know, built their car to you know,

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put too much horsepower in their car
and hurt somebody. It's it's ridiculous.

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You don't sue the manufacturers, but
they loved so in this case, they're

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trying to go after Block in particular
for what's called the block switch. Now

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glock has this mechanism that you can
do it. You can turn your block

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into you know, convert it from
a semi automatic into a full automatic,

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so it shoots multiple rounds with one
pole of the trigger. This is an

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attachment, it's a it's something that
is not part of the fire army.

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Can it can be, But they're
trying to sue Block or they're trying to

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make it so anybody who manufactures or
sells one of these products is subject to

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felony. But it's not only the
weird thing about it, in the very

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strategic thing about it in the text
when they write the bill was it also

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included any guns that could be converted, which is really interesting and I hope

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everybody catches this stuff because not only
are they going after the glock switch or

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the item or the thing that makes
that transforms it from a semiomac, they

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also want to go after the gun
that can be converted. And there's the

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bill states that if makers of convertible
pistols adapt their design to ensure they cannot

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be converted into machine guns. Simply
by installing a pistol converter, they will

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no longer be subject to the sale
prohibition. So what this means is the

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New York State will determine which guns
can be converted and the State of New

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York will have the final word on
which gun can be sold in New York,

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which is basically going to be nothing. Just like they are trying to

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determine where you can have a firearm
and where you can't in those sensitive safe

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areas. Yes, you're allowed to
carry a firearm if it's legally licensed and

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registered your law abiding citizen, but
you just can't carry it here or here.

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And when they tried to do that, Dan, they tried to limit

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basically anywhere but your home. You
could actually be carrying a legal firearm in

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the state of New York. Where
are we with those laws? Have even

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in your home? They want im
locked up so they can so you can't

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use them. That's another story.
But yeah, so New York State had

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all these very restrictive gun laws,
and there was a case called brew we

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call it the Bruin case, And
what it did was it went after those

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New York state laws, and it
defeated them, It killed them. So

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we were back to the point where
people, and it's particularly in New York

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City, could carry a gun out
of their home, out of their residents.

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So Hopel and her gang gun grabbers
knew that they were going to lose

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this case. Well, eight days
later they had a whole new package of

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restrictive, unconstitutional gun laws and they
put it. They signed everything back into

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law, basically, only this time
even worse. Where every place was a

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sensitive location, you could there really
was no gun you know, pro gun

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zones. It was all gun free
zones. And not only that, they

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did something that was interesting and very
strategic. Rather than requiring businesses to put

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signs up saying no guns allowed,
they deemed all private businesses gun free zones

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unless the business owner put up a
sign welcoming guns. So do you understand

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how how difficult this is because you
would have to now put up a sign

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in your business window saying yes,
we do welcome carrying of firearms, and

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nobody's really going to ever do that. Whereas before the business owner, if

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they didn't want firearms in their establishment, they would have to put up a

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sign refusing them. Yeah. I'll
also that this has been kind of one

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of the points of gun grabbing,
and I don't know if it's gun grabbing

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or not. I'd like your thoughts
on or take on this. There has

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been a large move and some gun
rights people have said, you know what,

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this may have some merit. We
could agree to this of the banning

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of private gun sales. Tell me
where you come down on this and why

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it's a good idea or a bad
idea to even think about it. Yeah,

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that's an awful idea. Our founding
fathers when they wrote the Second Amendment,

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the Second Amendment doesn't say the right
of the people to keep them bare

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arms shall not be infringed as long
as the government knows who's transferring guns to

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whom, and we in document read
you know, serial numbers and create a

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on registry. Now, they didn't
say that. So what they're trying to

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do with this is they're trying to
it's called universal background check. Any firearm

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that transfers hands or ownership has to
go through an FFL, a licensed dealer,

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And if you want to transfer a
firearm to a friend, to to

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a relative, to a you know, whoever, you would have to either

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go to a fire a dealer and
have them broker the transaction right and do

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back checks and risk risk risk the
background checks. Remind me about that and

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I'll tell you why the background checks
are such a risk. Or you have

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to get your own license, you
have to become a licensed firearms dealer,

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which is very costly and very extensive, which nobody would really do. So

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the idea there is to put a
halt to private gun sales. And it's

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always been an American tradition to sell
guns to your friend, hand them,

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trade them, build them yourself.
It's always been an American tradition. But

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these gun grabbers today are really trying
to put a stop to all that stuff.

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So would would that also limit us
sales or or transfers just maybe not

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even any money exchanging hands? Uh? Within families? Well, yeah,

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exactly, it would. It would
hurt that So like a dad, a

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dad wants to pass a firearm onto
his son, So has he got to

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go to a firearms dealer or a
licensed firearms dealer to transfer that weapon to

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his own flesh and blood? Is
that what you're telling me? I think

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I think right now, father,
that that type of transaction from a father

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to a son, or father to
a to a daughter, or mother to

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a son, whatever that that I
think that's okay. But as far as

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the steps on, now that would
be different. I think that's where they

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that's where everything changes. So yeah, so it's immediate family, but anything

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beyond that makes it, you know, it changes it and you could become,

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you know, a felon. So
but the reason that we don't want

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I wanted to get back to this
point was the reason we don't want these

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background checks is because because ninety five
to ninety nine percent of the background check

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denials are false positives. So let's
give you an example of two thousand and

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seventeen, there were two hundred,
one hundred and twelve thousand background check denials

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and and so what happened was there
was only twelve thousand investigations. So in

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other words, they denied good people
for no good reason. And so you

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had you had a lot of people
go without getting were unable to get a

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gun because they were falsely denied.
And it could be for any reason.

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It could be for a mistake on
the paperwork, it could be a similar

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social Security number to somebody who was
convicted felling or something like that could be

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any reason that you could be denied. So there are many ways you can

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get denied. But the interesting thing
is out of one hundred and twelve thousand

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denials you only had, they only
did twelve and twelve thousand investigations and there

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are only twelve prosecutions. Similarly,
where its one hundred and twelve, about

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one hundred and twelve thousand people went
were falsely denied. And so the background

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check system is it doesn't work is
the biggest problem. But they want more

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of that now. They want now
they want to get into your family transactions

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and your friend transaction and your personal
and private firearm transactions, which is unconstitutional

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to start with, and it doesn't
do anything to stop violence or crime because

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you know, the bad guys,
the gang members are trading them, trading

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them anyway. They don't care.
They don't follow any of these laws.

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This is all designed, yeah,
for the law criminals. Criminals don't care

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about laws. Dan. This is
the one big issue I think we've always

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had on our side. That's that's
the chit we've had that no one can

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deny, is that criminals don't follow
the law. That's why they're criminals.

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I wanted to get to you the
red flag laws, and you you've been

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outspoken on against these red flag laws
that have been proposed and have passed in

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some states. And the argument always
is, whenever someone who was obviously mentally

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ill uses a firearm and the commission
of some horrific crime, everyone says,

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well, there were red flags.
How come this person wasn't stopped from getting

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a gun? And that's what we
need, are red flag laws. People

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hear that, and they don't understand
exactly how they work and how anyone could

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be red flag for any reason by
someone who just didn't like them. Yeah.

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Well, another thing also is,
you know, when you're talking about

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red flag laws and things like that, the anti gun side always comes to

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us and they say, well,
what do you propose to do about mentally

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ill people getting their hands on guns? What do you plan to do about

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criminals and violent people getting their hands
on guns? And my answer is always

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the same. It's actually a question
when did it become my responsibility as a

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gun order to solve all these problems
in the world just so I can keep

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my god given right to firearms.
It's not my responsibility. That work is

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well beyond and above my scope of
expertise. That's the work for psychologists,

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psychiatrists, and law enforcement. I
shouldn't be responsible to do that. So

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what they do is they let a
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here in New York and other Blue
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jail. They have this bail reform
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you can commit crimes and you can
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come to court. It's ridiculous.
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say, well, we need red
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to confiscate guns to prevent bad people
from doing bad things. Well, why

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the hell are the bad people not
in jail, And that's my question.

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So what they do is they perpetuate
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then they use that violence and crime
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owners. Because ultimately, Gary Jeff, the deal is they don't care about

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the criminals getting guns. They care
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that would be the conservative of the
Republican and people who might decide that they've

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had enough. If tyranny should should
boil over. Well, I mean,

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it's definitely on the stove right now. We've seen what's been going on in

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the Manhattan courtroom with President Trump and
this trial. Anybody else, and I

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know we're veering off topic here,
Dan, but anybody else if they'd committed

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a misdemeanor of falsifying records that had
it expired, it wouldn't be somehow trumped

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up, no pun intended into a
federal election charge by an attorney who has

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no power to enforce or prosecute federal
election charges. So you're real, You're

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right. It's all about keeping people
who are ideologically opposed or politically opposed to

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you from having access to protection under
the law exactly. I mean, once

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you're in this, in this conversation, in these Second Amendment circles for long

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enough, you really start to be
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and gun restrictions. Now, people
on the outside don't always see the you

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know, how they may how they
make the sausage, so to speak,

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and they think, well, well, Jon, background checks sound like a

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great idea, you know, or
what we need, red flag laws.

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We've got to confiscate guns from Betsy. But they don't understand why the real

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reason behind these gun control laws.
And if if I could explain this to

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everybody, it would be a great
thing. Thankfully for people like you who

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we can broadcast this this information over
a large amount of people. And I

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just did ted Nusians show, which
was great, and I've done Sean Hannity

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showing some of the some of the
other uh, you know, radio and

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TV shows. Dan, you got
it. You got to do me a

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favor and get me a connection with
uh with Teddy, I'd love to talk

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to him. Listen, Uh,
if you want to find out more about

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your Second Amendment rights and what Dan
was is talking about. Check out ammo

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land. That's a great website shooting
sports news ammo Land. He has articles

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in there that regularly appear and loaded
Mike, And of course there's Dan's website,

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Good Gunbadguy dot com. Thank you, Dan, I appreciate it as

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always, my friend, and we
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cap in eons. We have to
welcome back our tech guy, the Mad

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Hatter, Dave Hatter, who's here. He's got his aluminum foil cap on

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so the aliens or even worse,
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on a Monday night cap here on
SEVENLW. Gary Jeff and Dave Hatter as

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always welcome, my friend, How
are you always? My pleasure to be

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here, Gary Jeff. I had
to cut an ear hole in the tenth

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foil hat so I could hear you
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is first and foremost you and I. Just before we came on the air

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talking about how nineteen eighty four wasn't
just a book or an album by Van

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Halen. It is happening now,
and George Orwell was only forty years too

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early with his predictions. The surveillance
state is on full bore, and the

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new police tech that they have now
supposedly can detect phones, pet trackers,

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and library books in a moving car. Tell me about this horror. Yeah,

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this is some pretty wild stuff,
Gary, Jeff, And you're right.

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Orwell was unfortunately was more of a
profit than a novelition was off by

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it by forty years. So you
know, everywhere you look now you're under

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surveillance, whether it's cameras and or
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And if you think about it,
the problem is likely to get much worse

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before it gets better, because the
devices continue to get smaller. Life is

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increasing, devices can be powered by
solar, Everything is connected now to Wi

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Fi or at least the cellular network. So you know, the idea that

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you could be under constant surveillance,
I think is much more pervasive now than

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anything Orwell could probably have dreamed of
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that book. So in this particular
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have talked about sort of an offshoot
of this before, stingray, which is

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a device law enforcement and use to
set up what appears to be a cell

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phone tower, so your phone will
connect to it. Yeah, they'll off

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and use it for surveillance. This
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company behind this makes license plate readers, and basically what they've come up with

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is a way to use the capabilities
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you know, identify you through the
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or Wi Fi that's throwing out a
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it wasn't disclosed, but you know, anything that is emitting some kind

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of radio signal can potentially be intercepted, and you know, they're the research

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on it so far is pretty much
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it's like an air tag or a
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car itself, or perhaps even a
library book it's got some kind of tag

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from the library in it, they
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the point of this technology is,
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a license plate, then even if
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now they know the device, they
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original connection to your license plate they
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of like a sting ray with a
cell phone, but a lot more pervasive

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because it's picking up really anything,
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sort of digital signal over wireless at
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it. And you means that if
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police may be pulling you over for
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your local librarian at this point that
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know, I in the sky,
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where you're at at all times.
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the past TikTok ban in this country. If it's not divested of from China

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by January first, we'll see how
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study that China uses global apps and
games for propaganda. Well, no,

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duh, yeah, I would encourage
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I'm a big fan of Twitter slash
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follow all kinds of accounts that share
all kinds of useful information, namely the

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Select Committee. This is a House
US House committee, to Select Committee on

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a Chinese Communist Party, and whether
it's discussions about Sentinel or TikTok or other

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CCP apps like that, they're a
good source and a steady stream of information

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like this. So yeah, I
think it's interesting that the Australian defensive mechanisms

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have come out and pointed this out. And like you said, no,

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Doug, I mean it's I just
can't stress enough to people. If you

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are using something that is quote free
unquote write any app software, however you

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want to think of it. If
it's free, you are not the customer.

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You are the product. You're paying
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and then they monetize that data.
Now they mentioned TMU and other online shopping

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sites to complete with compete with Amazon, so that's a slightly different model.

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they're still collecting enormous amounts of your
data. It's going back to China.

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It's under the control of the Chinese
Communist Party. And I think about this,

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Gary, Jeff. Even if you
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TikTok the company behind it, name
White Dance, doesn't have access to that

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information from these other companies, And
that whichever ones of these apps, sites,

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shopping platforms, whatever you're using that's
based out of China, they're not

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all sharing your data and doing incredibly
granular dossier. Ain't about you. If

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you follow that Select Committee site,
you know they'll talk about on there the

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idea of the Chinese Communist Party going
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information they're collecting to harass and target
people. So when people tell me I

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have nothing to hide, I don't
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You are giving it potentially very granular
and potentially very insightful psychographic information about

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yourself to the main adversary of our
nation. And you know, could that

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be used against you in any number
of ways above and beyond the possible lack

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of the psyops part of TikTok,
which is pretty clearly defined at this point.

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Well, I think the answer is
clearly yes. And you know I'm

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not the only person and raising his
concerns. So I'm glad to see other

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governments besides the United States. You
know, TikTok in particular has been banned

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by many governments around the world.
Said, Canada is moving to do this,

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aren't they or have they already done
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think they banned it. What I
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says, I think it was the
Canadian defense minister whose name escapes me urged

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Canadians to stop using TikTok for all
of the reasons you and I have been

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discussing for a long time. So
again, whether it's an actual ban or

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you know, the military slash intelligence
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particular, the list just keeps going
up because I think is more information is

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revealed about what they're doing, it's
obvious that it's not just collecting your data.

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It really is like a SIOP tool, and you know, the power

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to propagandize and persuade is pretty obvious
at this point. Wow, TikTok.

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Well yeah, but I mean,
like you said, even if even if

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you stop using TikTok, if you're
using other apps that have Chinese origins,

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you think that bite edance still doesn't
have access to that information because you stopped

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using TikTok. That's the thing that
about centralized communist government that some people just

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don't quite understand. And I think
Canada's effort may in fact be due to

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the fact that they don't want competition
from another communist country. Maybe it's I

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don't know. Yeah, this stuff
is all very interesting and I wish people

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would take it more seriously. Well, I don't think it gets any more

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serious than a robot dog armed with
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Ops evaluation. So I guess that
the robot dogs are working on being the

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few the proud hoorah for the robot
dog tell me about this. This is

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just crazy. I think it's crazy
too, Gary Jeff, because from what

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I can tell and what's been released
to the public so far, there's two

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of these that they're testing. You
mentioned the Marine Corps of Special Ops testing

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these things. You know, it's
a robot dog like people have seen.

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These robots aren't new, but I
would say for anyone listening tonight that hasn't

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gone out and really looked at the
current state of robotics, it's pretty incredible

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what these things can do now.
You can check out the optimist line from

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Tesla. You can check out Boston
Dynamics and see what these things are capable

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of. Oh, by the way, hold on you did you see that

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creepy video of the Boston Dynamics robot
dog that was all dressed in fluff and

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fur and doing the little dance.
It was just really really creepy. No,

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I have not seen this out.
Yeah, and maybe that's how the

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Marines will soften this up. They'll
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when it opens up with it's M
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terrified and something that just looks like
a you know, robot out of a

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Black Mirror episode. So you know, again, the robotics aren't new where

407
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I think this gets really interesting,
and from what I've been able to read

408
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.599
about this, that's all I know. Is what I've read is that currently

409
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.839
these devices aren't testing and the weapon
systems are still under the control of a

410
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human being, much like the weapon
systems on like a reaper drone or something.

411
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.680
Right, you know, they're not
fully autonomous at this point. But

412
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when you look at the advancement in
robotics and you look at the advancement of

413
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.599
AI. I don't think it's far
fetched to think that in the not too

414
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.440
distant future you're going to be at
a place where these systems would be,

415
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.599
you know, fully autonomous and fully
capable of making decision when to engage.

416
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.240
Now, I hope that doesn't happen, but it feels sort of inevitable to

417
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:57.759
me at some point, if for
no other reason, Gary Jeff, because

418
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.519
like everything in human nature, we
will be in an arms race with our

419
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:06.319
adversaries. And if if the Chinese
or the Russians or whomever the inemy do

420
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:10.880
sure is, has fully autonomous weaponized
robot dogs or whatever, then you know

421
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:14.400
there's gonna have There's gonna be the
counterclaim. We we've got to have them

422
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.480
too, right, we got to
be posts. It's funny. I'm sure

423
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:21.400
you've you've probably seen both of these
movies. Fail Safe, which is a

424
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.280
classic, and then you know Doctor
Strangelove, which is sort of the black

425
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:29.719
comedy version of fail Safe. Right, you know, Uh, for folks

426
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.920
who haven't seen Doctor Strangelove, I
just can't recommend it. I think it's

427
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.239
one of the funniest movies ever and
just the whole, the whole way it's

428
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.440
played. You know, we've got
to out you know, we've got to

429
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.719
have more of them than this,
and it just that's where it feels like

430
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.920
we're going with all of this stuff. And for people who think this stuff

431
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.719
is science fiction, uh, just
go see for yourself. Watch the videos

432
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.519
these companies are putting out. And
the thing that's always the most terrifying to

433
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.760
me, Gary Jeff, is this
is what the public is aware of,

434
00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.599
right, this is just regular news
stories though, and I I have brought

435
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.960
this up before. If we're seeing
it and we think it's really out there,

436
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.840
the stuff they're not showing us that
they have, yes, imagine it.

437
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:13.039
I mean we would all we would
all like be jumping off cliffs or

438
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.199
something before they could come get us. Yeah, it's you know, right

439
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.719
out of the realm of terminator at
this point. Because again, if you

440
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.880
see what these things are capable of, and they're letting the public be aware

441
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.840
of it, who knows what there
is in a lab somewhere, whether it's

442
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.800
here or hopefully not China. Hopefully
we are ahead of them. You know.

443
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.400
Again, I hate to be the
doomsday guy, but some of this

444
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.679
stuff is pretty maybe it's not scary
but certainly startling, and you know,

445
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:45.280
the pace of change and improvement in
this technology continues to increase. That's why

446
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:46.639
I say, I think, you
know, we can't be more than maybe

447
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:52.559
five or ten years out where you're
going to have enemies that have fully autonomous

448
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.599
versions of these things, and in
order to be able to defend against them,

449
00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:00.800
you're going to have to have your
own. So where all goes mutually

450
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:07.159
assured. Mutually assured robot dog destruction
is what we're talking about. I wanted

451
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:12.480
to ask you about something else that
we didn't really plan to chat about,

452
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.760
but it's something that has come up
numerous times on my email, and it

453
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:24.679
will be a reference from someone who
I've never heard of talking about accessing my

454
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:30.880
PayPal account, which I don't have
a PayPal account. Uh, and there's

455
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.679
an invoice for a certain amount of
money that he's charged. If I want

456
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.920
to see the invoice, I always
just delete the thing because I know I

457
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:45.280
don't have a PayPal. How do
people get scammed like that? Well,

458
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.800
I mean your approach is smart.
First off, I would just remind everyone

459
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.039
it's so easy to send an email
or a text, or even make a

460
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.719
phone call that can be spoofed.
Spoofed is the sort of nerdy name for

461
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.960
you know, it's fake, it's
bogus, right, It's easy to spoop

462
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.119
whole website, to go out and
copy a legitimate website, set it up

463
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.320
on a different server with a slightly
different domain name that's not obvious to the

464
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:08.800
naked eye. All of these things
are very easy. All these things are

465
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:14.280
very doable even by people without much
technical skill. The bad guys know this.

466
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:16.800
The bad guys know that. You
know, folks are often rushed or

467
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:21.559
don't really understand the idea of spooping
and how easy it is. And you

468
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.679
know they know that. Then then
you take spoofing and throw some social engineering

469
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.519
on it. Right now, I'm
going to send you an email or a

470
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.239
text or whatever the claims that you
owe money or something. Right, they're

471
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.119
trying to catch you off balance,
create a situation that deals urgent and you

472
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:37.719
need to act on it. Your
account's going to get canceled, you're going

473
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.440
to get built or whatever. And
you know they know that in many cases

474
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.920
because I can get a list of
one hundred million email addresses, and some

475
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:50.199
number of people on that list is
going to have pay or are going to

476
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.440
have PayPal. Some won't, but
they still might click on it because they'll

477
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.840
be like, well, what is
this? Is this something I should care

478
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.159
about? But it's so easy to
do this, And the best way to

479
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.039
not get scammed is, you know, first, stop and take a breath.

480
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.079
Another thing you're going to get via
email or text is going to be

481
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.840
so urgent that it must be acted
on that very second. Right, stop,

482
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.599
take a breast. Think do I
have a PayPal account? Have I

483
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.480
ever had a pay Pal account?
And if the answer is no, well

484
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.719
then you should do exactly what you
just suggested, Gary Jeff, just to

485
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.079
just delete it, ignore it out
of hand, and move on. If

486
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.760
you do have a PayPal account,
or maybe had one in the pass,

487
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.639
and you think it could be legitimate, the best bet is to then go

488
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.079
to a computer or you know,
I guess on your phone it's necessary.

489
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.639
I hate to do anything on the
phone if I have access to a computer,

490
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.800
because it's just easier. Go to
the PayPal website. You type in

491
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.599
the url PayPal dot com. Don't
click the links, don't call the numbers.

492
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:47.960
All of that could be fake,
right, And that link might take

493
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.960
you to a bogus login page where
they feel your credentials, or if you

494
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.000
successfully log into their bogus site,
they do something even worse, download malware

495
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.239
or whatever ransomware sort of thing.
You know, you go to PayPal on

496
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.920
your own using the PayPal URL that
you've looked up on your own, log

497
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.800
into your PayPal account and see is
there's something in there that says you know

498
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:13.559
you owe moneyard there's a problem or
whatever. You know, they know people

499
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.199
will get caught off guard, especially
if it seems urgent, and they know

500
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.239
people will click those links. If
you just step back, take a breath,

501
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.760
stop, think about what you're doing, and then if you feel like

502
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.920
there's you know, some need to
act on it again, don't click the

503
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.559
links, don't call the numbers,
go on your own to the site that

504
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.360
they're porced to have sent you.
You know, it could be like a

505
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.960
UPS scam, right, your package
couldn't get delivered, it's held up,

506
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.000
blah blah blah. Well, then
you go to UPS, go to ups

507
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.559
dot com, log in with the
tracking number you have and look it up.

508
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:50.599
Just assume that anything you get that
was unsolicited and sent to you via

509
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.039
whatever mechanism could be fake. I
know we're going to be out of time

510
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.920
here, but remind you the next
time we talk. I know someone recently

511
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.159
had their Facebook account taken over,
and you know one of the reasons,

512
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.320
people, why do I care about
that, Well, because now her Facebook

513
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.960
is spamming all kinds of stuff to
other people. They're trying to use,

514
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.960
you know, her authenticity and legitimacy
as a person that has friends on Facebook

515
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:17.760
to spam her friends and and scam
them. That's pretty common. So,

516
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:23.199
you know, any anything you get
electronically that's unsolicited, just assume that it's

517
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:30.639
a high of a likelihood of uh
fakeness, not illegitimacy for lack of a

518
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.639
better word, and act accordingly.
Yeah, and the government will never send

519
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.199
you something on in the mail,
or they may in the mail, but

520
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:43.599
they'll never call you on the phone
or email you. They'll just come.

521
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.480
They'll just come directly to your house
and take you into custody. Dave Hatter,

522
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:51.920
thank you so much. We got
to run always my pleasure, Garrett.

523
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.360
Yeah, thanks right, the Mad
Hatter on a Monday night, as

524
00:40:54.360 --> 00:41:00.920
we continue on seven hundred w l
W. Meanwhile in the end Tented Castle,

525
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:06.559
the Princess, I'm so sick.
Why are you crying. Thanks opposed

526
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.239
to marry Prince charming? Isn't that
what you want? Are you kidding?

527
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:15.519
He's not charming? What he's messy? You should see the bathroom after he

528
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.880
showers, he leaves hair on the
seu. What are you going to do?

529
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.679
I'm gonna listen to Eddie and Rocky. They always hear me up.

530
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.840
What about the Prince? You marry
him? And is Harry's so Edie and

531
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:32.519
rock tomorrow afternoon at three on seven
hundred wlw uh oh rah, that's buzzed.

532
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.360
Oh yeah, yeah, he's starting
with the Woots evening May twentieth,

533
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.199
twenty twenty four and joining I told
you we had a stellar lineup a guest

534
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.119
and this is a guy that I've
wanted to have on the program for a

535
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:52.159
long time and I finally got the
connection through the pr people. And he

536
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.800
is a host of Supernatural. He
is with the Middle East Broadcast Network.

537
00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:01.079
He has sold over three million books, and he is a Jewish man who

538
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:07.199
believes in Jesus Christ, King Jesus
the Messiah. Sid Roth, Good evening

539
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:12.079
and welcome to the Nightcap. Oh
it's my pleasure. Gary. You know

540
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.519
I told you I just hung up
on the phone with an Israeli soldier who,

541
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.920
like myself, is a Jewish believer
in Jesus. And he's right in

542
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:28.880
Rapha. He's with an elite group
of Israeli soldiers whose job is to destroy

543
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:37.320
all of the tunnels from Gaza to
Israel. And his life is in the

544
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:44.239
balance every second. And I saw
his He was a couple of day vacation

545
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:50.800
he took from the front because it's
really close. He lives in the Galilee,

546
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:59.480
and so he was there on a
two day r and R and he's

547
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:04.679
there with small children in his family, and he does not know if he's

548
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:09.519
going to live the next minute,
because there's nothing with a greater risk in

549
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:14.920
the job that he has. But
I have to tell you the greatest risk

550
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.440
in the world, in my opinion, and this may shock you, Gary,

551
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:24.800
the greatest risk in the world is
American Christianity. And why do I

552
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.360
say that, And I know it's
kind of almost an oxymoron. The reason

553
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:37.880
is the greatest risk in the world
is many Christians have said, I believe

554
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:44.199
in Jesus because my parents do,
but they have never had the real purpose.

555
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:49.679
You believe in Jesus perhaps because your
parents do, but the real purpose

556
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:55.159
is in this life to have your
own experiential knowledge of God through Jesus.

557
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:59.880
This is what happened to me.
When I was thirty years of age.

558
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:07.000
I was separated from my wife and
family. I left my job that was

559
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.400
a mess, absolute mess. It
was the early mid life crisis. I

560
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.679
was a college graduate. I worked
for Merrill Lynch is an account executive.

561
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:22.159
But I reached my breaking point and
I got involved in the New Age,

562
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:30.360
which Deuteronomy that's in the Torah,
the eighteenth chapter called an abomination. I

563
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.719
had just read this in a book. I read about Jewish people that were

564
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:39.719
involved in the same thing I was
involved in that lost the life because Deuteronomy

565
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:46.920
eighteen says any Jew that goes to
fortune telling and psychics and seances and things

566
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:54.840
of that that nature would die.
And so it listed very prominent Jews in

567
00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:00.960
this book. My hero was in
there. He was the Jewish man of

568
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:06.000
the Beatles at that time, Brian
Epstein, the Jew and at that time

569
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:12.320
only one group from the Beatles had
died, the Jew Brian Epstein. And

570
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:16.079
so I was afraid to go to
sleep the night because I've broke into something

571
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:22.239
in the New Age called astra projection
where my spirit would leave my body.

572
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.800
And those that think, oh,
he's just kind of crazy, now they

573
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:31.679
actually study this at American universities today. It's called astro projection. And I

574
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.880
was afraid to go to sleep at
night. But I finally I said,

575
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:38.960
I can't take it anymore. If
I die, I die because I was

576
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:44.239
afraid my spirit leave my body not
make it back in time. And I

577
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:49.119
had a script that Rod Surley never
even imagined that was so horrific. And

578
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:53.360
so through sheer exhaustion, I went
to sleep being in the worst shape a

579
00:45:53.440 --> 00:46:00.719
human can be, separated from my
wife and daughter, no job, just

580
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:06.840
a mess. Everything's coming apart in
my life. I went to bed with

581
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:12.320
the biggest fear a human could possibly
have, but I was so exhausted I

582
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.480
didn't care if I even died.
And I have to tell you, as

583
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.880
a young boy, my big fear
was the fear of death because it was

584
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.960
unknown to me and I didn't know
what happened to me. So I went

585
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:30.199
to sleep and I woke up that
morning. And this was when I was

586
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:36.800
age thirty. When I woke up
that morning, the greatest presence of peace

587
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.679
I had ever experienced in my life
flooded the room. If you had been

588
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.840
in my room, Gary, you
would have felt that. Anyone would have

589
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.280
felt that. I felt the presence
of God in a tangible way the first

590
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.599
time in my life, and I
have to tell you I've been addicted to

591
00:46:54.679 --> 00:47:00.719
the presence of God ever since.
Because there is no drug, no alcohol,

592
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:07.360
there's no entertainment that can replace the
experiential knowledge. Your own experiential knowledge.

593
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:13.320
He knowledge is good, but it
doesn't spend. The only thing that

594
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:20.280
spends is experiential knowledge. And I
want everyone listening to consider they are listening

595
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.440
to your show, Gary, by
divine appointment, and it's their time to

596
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:29.880
come to know God. And if
they will just say in their own words,

597
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:36.400
Jesus, I've made mistakes. I'm
so sorry. I believe that your

598
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.760
blood washes me clean. And now
that I'm clean, Jesus live inside of

599
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.079
me, and I make you my
Messiah and Lord. If they were just

600
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:51.320
say that in their own words,
they would have an encounter with the living

601
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.719
God. It may not happen the
minuture pray it, like it didn't happen

602
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:59.400
the minute I prayed it. I
actually prayed a little prayer a few days

603
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.760
earlier. Nothing happened, and I
figured, well, it was a waste.

604
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.639
But then that night I told you
about, I was flooded with the

605
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.760
glory of God. If you say
a prayer to that nature, it will

606
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.719
be as effective, maybe not the
same thing that happened to me, but

607
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:21.119
as effective as God feels you needed
at this moment in your life. And

608
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:25.119
I wouldn't want to live in this
world. I've never seen such a contrast

609
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:30.719
of light and darkness, evil and
good, a division in my life,

610
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:36.480
and it's happening so rapidly, and
there is a defense. Yes, the

611
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.519
world, according to the Bible,
will get darker and darker, but the

612
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:44.599
glory of God, the light of
God, is about ready to shine on

613
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.599
you. And I tell you you'll
be walking in the presence of God and

614
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.679
no weapon formed against you will prosper
if in your own words, you make

615
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:59.079
Jesus your Messiah and Lord. Right
now, sid are you continuing obviously you're

616
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:05.039
continuing your minute history in Israel with
other Jews. You told me about a

617
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.719
billboard that you've you've contracted on broadways. Well, and there's two There are

618
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:14.000
two things. First, what you
just mentioned, I'm the owner of Middle

619
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:22.880
East Television and that is a regular
television network that is available in every home

620
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:28.119
in Israel that has a TV.
And in addition to that, I've just

621
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:34.079
lit up Broadway. At least that
was the headline of the newspaper article.

622
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.280
What did I do? I don't
know if anyone's ever done this before.

623
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:42.760
I bought one of the biggest billboards, not the biggest, not the one

624
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.800
in Times Square that they see on
New Year's Eve, not that one,

625
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:52.079
but one very close to it,
right in that same geographic area. And

626
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:58.920
we have seven Jewish people that leave
in Jesus, of which I'm one of

627
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:05.119
the seven. And the headline flashing
on the news under the picture says,

628
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:10.239
I'm Jewish and I believe in Jesus. That is running four times an hour,

629
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:15.679
every hour for the next three months, and that's why the headline was

630
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Rath lights up Broadway. That's great, that's phenomenal. Amen. So I

631
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:30.039
wanted to talk to you about some
worldly events that continue to maybe point to

632
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:37.360
possibly the return of Jesus. What
do you know about this helicap copter crash

633
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:43.000
that killed the Iranian president and what
does that mean for events as they unfold

634
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.679
between Iran and Israel and what's going
on in the Middle East? What do

635
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:52.039
you think, Well, there's certain
things we know and certain things we speculate.

636
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:58.559
I do know that Iran will one
day be totally destroyed. What I

637
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:05.159
don't know is the timing. I
believe God puts kings in place, and

638
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:13.599
I believe that God thought it that
this guy would die because he was really

639
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.199
the heir apparent. I mean,
they were grooming him to really be the

640
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:23.360
leader of Iran. And someone else
will be there that I believe will be

641
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:36.800
pivotal in a war between Israel and
Iran, and maybe even Russia and China

642
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.599
will join in. That things are
happening, Jerry, I'm sure you see

643
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.400
the same thing I do. Things
are happening so rapidly in the world.

644
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:51.519
I've never seen the anti Semitism it's
just reared up in the University's happened so

645
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:57.440
fast and so big. I've never
seen the hatred for Israel in my lifetime

646
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:04.079
that is going on right now.
Things are intensifying and speeding up. And

647
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:08.079
there is only one defense, and
that one defense is the whole purpose of

648
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:15.679
life, and that's to know God
experientially. Do you think that Joe Biden

649
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:21.840
has turned his back has betrayed Israel
with his bold arms. Absolutely. Absolutely,

650
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.159
he has given so much money to
Hamas, not really directly to Hamas,

651
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:31.480
but just tell Ustians we all know
ends up in the comforts of Hamas

652
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:39.719
leaders that are in very big cities
and big hotels, spending the millions of

653
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:45.480
dollars on a lavish lifestyle. I
mean, we have a Hebrew word in

654
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:52.760
Jewish and he actually Yiddish. It's
called michuga. It means crazy. The

655
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:57.719
world is going crazy. Gary.
Well, and like you said, there

656
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:02.880
is light and there there is hope, as you mentioned, through the power

657
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:08.000
of God and through the belief in
Jesus Christ. And you were following that

658
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:12.800
path and have been since you were
thirty years old. Said now, I'm

659
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.679
very worried by the way and the
question you asked earlier about President Biden.

660
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:20.840
I'm extremely worried, not because of
him, but because of what he stands

661
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:25.280
for. And he is playing right
into the curse of Genesis twelve three.

662
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:31.639
I God will curse those who curse
the Jewish people or Israel. That's what

663
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:37.760
he's doing. I have great fear
for the US. We're going to go

664
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.159
through it. We're going to go
through a bad time. But I believe

665
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:45.159
the presence of God is going to
be so large that it's going to hit

666
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:52.280
America, that it's going to give
everyone that one last chance. Because no

667
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:57.159
one knows when you're when the end
will come for America, the end will

668
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:01.400
come for uh Ran. No one
knows what, but we do know.

669
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:06.840
Even more important than that, no
one knows when their end will come,

670
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:12.960
when they will die. I've talked
to people, young people. Everyone's young

671
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:17.800
to me. I'm maybe three years
here, but I talk to younger people

672
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:23.679
and they're dying. You don't know
when your end will come, but you

673
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:28.159
can know for sure where you're going, not because I tell you, not

674
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:34.800
because Gary tells you, because you
know. And that's the most important message

675
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:42.440
I have for anyone right now.
Get to know God experientially, yourself excellent.

676
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.079
How can people find out more?
Said Roth? What? What are

677
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:52.119
some places where you would tell them
to seek what you were, what you

678
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.920
are disseminating, what you are telling
people? Is there? Is there a

679
00:54:54.960 --> 00:55:00.559
website? Is there somewhere where they
can be more in touch with said Roth

680
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:07.559
story and your God's story. We
have an online network. It's called It's

681
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:14.480
Supernatural. Isn it's Supernatural Network.
You go to the app store, you

682
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:19.440
google in sid Wroth and you'll see
a nice orange chapter. There's no charge.

683
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:23.039
It's a seven day a week,
twenty four hour a day network of

684
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:30.199
all original, mostly original programming.
We have some that's not, but mostly

685
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:37.960
original programming that will allow them to
transition from religion to relationship. But not

686
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:43.320
so much because someone says it,
but they tell you how to do it

687
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:47.760
and what is the benefit, And
they tell you the benefit by their lives,

688
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.159
and you'll see genuine miracles. They'll
pray for you. So you just

689
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:58.559
all you do is type in sid
Roth in the app story and get my

690
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:04.519
is and supernatural app. That's the
best way, said Roth. I've been

691
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:09.760
blessed by this conversation myself, and
I appreciate your taking time to talk with

692
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:19.320
us tonight, and we will watch
and we will learn, and hopefully we

693
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:25.639
learn to have that experiential revolution within
ourselves so we can we can be with

694
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:31.000
you in paradise. Let me pray
this prayer for everyone listening. At this

695
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:36.400
end, I can't go ahead bother
and that, by the way, the

696
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:44.519
Hebrew for Jesus is yes Suah.
He responds to English Spanish Hebrew, but

697
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.920
I'm Jewish. I like to use
his Hebrew name. I mean his mother

698
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.559
wasn't even married back then. She
was Miriam. So Miriam had a son

699
00:56:52.639 --> 00:57:00.599
by the name of Yesua Jesus.
So I pray that Gary and every listener

700
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:07.119
right now would have an encounter with
you Racha Kodish spirit of the Living God,

701
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:15.199
and would know your shore even better
than I know him, and would

702
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:20.440
hunger for more of him every day
of their life. And let it start

703
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:25.679
right now by everyone that says in
their heart, right now, Jesus,

704
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:30.280
I make you my Savior and Lord, and say it out loud. It's

705
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:36.599
something about the spoken word of God. And I pray the blessings of Genesis

706
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:44.760
twelve three will land on everyone listening, which says I God will bless those

707
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:50.519
who bless the Jewish people. And
I believe the greatest blessing in the life

708
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:55.599
of everyone listening is to make issue
of their Messiah and Lord and be a

709
00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:02.760
blessing to Israel and walk in the
blessings of God. No matter what happens

710
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.360
on your left, no matter what
happens on you right, you will walk

711
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:14.760
in the shalom of God. O
me Amen. Thank you said so much.

712
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.920
Thank you Gary. Bye. It
is the nightcap, and it continues

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00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:29.360
in minutes maybe seven hundred WLW ah
Good Day starts with a good Morning.

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00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.480
Here's Lucy. She's feeling down.
Not only did her cat run away,

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she just can't meet the right man. But there's one man in the morning

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00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:44.639
that's always right. Mike mcconaell.
Good Morning. He gives Lucy the latest

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news, weather, traffic, sports, and morning Plus. She loves his

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mcconnald charm. Sudden, someone's at
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who's found Lucy's lost cat. Could
this be a McConnell morning Love connection.

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Mike McConnell Tomorrow Morning at five on
seven hundred WLW, I'm what was impactful

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for you? We have much more
ahead, including Jeffrey Sikinga, who is

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00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:14.719
next. He's a political science professor
with the book out called a Republic If

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00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:20.519
we can teach it, Fixing America's
civic education crisis. Right after News Next

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one seven hundred WLW News Traffic and
Weather. News Radio seven hundred WLW,

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00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:35.559
Cincinnati, One Country loses their president
with a ten thirty report, I'm Lee

726
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.559
Malwin breaking now, Arad has confirmed
the death of their president and a helicopter

727
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:45.599
crash this weekend, issuing five days
of national mourning, But as ABC Chief

728
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:51.280
Global corresponded Martha Raddi's reports, not
everyone is taking part. The bodies of

729
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:58.039
Iranian President Ibraham Raisi, his foreign
minister and six others founded the scene in

730
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:01.400
Iran. Thousands mourning the day of
the two leaders, but some in Iran

731
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:10.280
secretly and those in exile in Berlin
and London celebrating. Given Racey's role in

732
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:15.519
the vicious crackdown on protests in Iran
back in twenty twenty two. An election

733
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:20.480
has been scheduled within the next fifty
days, but any winner must have the

734
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:25.079
Ayatola's approval. Speaking on the floor
Monday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell noted,

735
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:30.320
the history of the country leaves them
little hope the relationship between the US

736
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.840
and the next Iranian president will be
any better. The untimely death of the

737
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:40.719
president of Iran does not change the
underlying threats this regime poses to its own

738
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:46.960
citizens, which region, and to
the free world well. One far more

739
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:52.360
official from the regiment blamed the US
agents on Iran aviation as a result for

740
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:57.239
the crash, but according to the
emergency teams who search for the wreckage of

741
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.119
the rural mountains, the weather conditions
were very poor on Sunday and into the

742
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:08.239
overnight with fog and poor visibility.
Now the latest traffic and weather together looking

743
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:13.920
pretty good. Around the Queens City. There is some construction on the left

744
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:16.840
lane of I two seventy five west
at US ROUNDE twenty two State Route three,

745
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:22.119
again the smart Lane. They are
looking to open that sometime in June.

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01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.559
Also, we have some repairs and
maintenance happening on I seventy four of

747
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:30.920
north just by Sharon Road, So
take your time around the work zones.

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01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:35.880
Now, the latest forecast from a
train heating and cooling weather center on news

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01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:40.199
radio seven hundred WLW. So we
head to our Tuesday daybreak. It's fier

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01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:45.039
skies. We'll see a morning low
of sixty five. Now our Tuesday's mostly

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01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:50.119
sunny and it's gonna be hot,
high of eighty eight at night, partly

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01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:52.760
cloudy, and a low down to
sixty eight. From your severe weather station,

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01:01:53.159 --> 01:02:00.480
I'm nine First Warning Chief Meteorologist Steve
Rawley, News Radio seven hundred WW.

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01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.760
The radar is clear and it's seventy
one degrees in Cincinnati happening in Liberty

755
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:08.840
Township. Authorities are on the lookout
for three women accused of stealing dozens of

756
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:15.079
Stanley cups from a store earlier this
month. The Butler County Sheriff's Office reports

757
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:19.719
for their Facebook page the suspects walked
into the Liberty Center Mall Dick Sporting Goods

758
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.800
May ninth, after eight thirty in
the evening, grabbing twenty eight Stanley cups

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01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:27.760
and ten bog bags before running out
of the store and leaving in a silver

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01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:31.199
car. The tall mount runs around
one one hundred and sixty dollars for the

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01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:36.480
Stanley cups and eight hundred and sixty
dollars for the bog bags. Anyone with

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01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:42.159
information is asked to contact Butler County's
Sheriff's Office. Sincini Public Schools have named

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01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:46.960
a temporary replacement for Aaronetta Wright with
Ironeta Rights resignation after Union's brought a voted

764
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:51.920
no confidence Cincinnati Public Schools Monday,
naming Seanna Murphy, the district's Chief of

765
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:57.519
Student, Family and Community Engagement interim
superintendent as doctor Elisha Murphy, Chief of

766
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:01.159
Schools, will be the interim deputy
super intendent. This a CPS conducts a

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01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:06.440
search for the next full time superintendent. Murphia forcell Mary and grad who attended

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01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:10.079
Ohio State before receiving her Masters in
Secondary Education at Xavier and a master's in

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01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:17.920
Educational Administration at UC I'm saun Galbager
News Radio seven hundred WLW our next update

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is out eleven. I'm Lee Mallen
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over time, like how Plant Moran
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for the past. Jeff on the
phone as we continue this nightcap on seven

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01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:52.519
hundred WLW Gary Jeff and Jeff is
a professor of political science and co director

776
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:58.360
of the Ashbrook Scholar Program at Ashland
University, and he is a co author

777
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:01.960
of this book that I think is
is very important and way too long in

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01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:05.800
coming. To be honest with you, It's entitled a Republic If we can

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01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:13.840
Teach It, Fixing America's Civic Education
Crisis. Jeff Sigenge Hello, how are

780
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.719
you fine? Thank you and great
to be with you and your listeners.

781
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:23.159
Well, thank you for being on
tonight with us. I remember getting a

782
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:28.360
pretty good civic education in public schools
in this country, But that tells you

783
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:34.079
how old I am. I graduated
in nineteen seventy nine, which was,

784
01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:40.920
of course, the first year of
the implementation of the federal Department of Education,

785
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:45.119
and things seem to have just gone
downhill in a lot of cases since

786
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:54.159
we had that centralized bureaucracy in Washington. You know, any kind of perceived

787
01:04:54.679 --> 01:05:01.079
ill in society is usually made worse
when federal Washington, centralized Washington declares a

788
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:10.079
war on poverty or drugs or education
or whatever. Is there a direct correlation

789
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:18.760
between more federal involvement in public education
and a scaling back of teaching civic education

790
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:24.599
in schools, Jeff, Absolutely.
One thing that we demonstrate in the book

791
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:29.039
is since nineteen seventy nine, and
even a few years before that, we

792
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:34.280
have been doing less civic education,
teaching US history and US government and civics,

793
01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:40.639
and we've been doing worse civic education. And some of that blame lies

794
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:43.840
directly at the feet of the federal
government in the US. Department of Education.

795
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:47.639
Your listeners, no doubt know about
no Child Left Behind law that put

796
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:53.079
a lot of emphasis on reading,
in math and testing those things. Well,

797
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.960
if you test those things, guess
what they don't teach. They don't

798
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:01.079
teach the other things that aren't tested. Andy and government have been losing ground

799
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.559
just in terms of the number of
hours that are spent on them in elementary,

800
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:09.719
middle and high school. And as
to add to that, the push

801
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:14.960
for STEM education, the numbers have
gone down and down even more, and

802
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:21.519
yet it seems like we've got less
and less of graduating student populations that are

803
01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:30.199
really excelling in math and especially reading. You know, even with No Child

804
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.239
Left Behind, even with the STEM
programs you're talking about, and we certainly

805
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:41.960
have seen a decline in patriotism and
civic pride. Absolutely that it's a real

806
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:46.360
crisis. The crisis is both ignorance, understanding, and devotion. You know,

807
01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:50.719
there's a test that's given every four
years called the NAPE Test. In

808
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:58.960
twenty twenty two, only twenty two
percent of US eighth graders scored proficient in

809
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:04.280
US Government and only thirteen percent scored
proficient in US History. That means three

810
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:10.239
out of every four kids is not
even proficient in the very knowledge that they

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need to be American citizens. It's
an alarming crisis. I was in elementary

812
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and the first well the first year
of middle school in Illinois, and there

813
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was pretty good public education in this
state of Illinois at the time. And

814
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we learned in the state of Illinois
not only about US history as early as

815
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:38.079
gosh, as early as first grade, but we also learned about Illinois state

816
01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:43.159
history very early on, and that
was a regular part of the curriculum.

817
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And when I moved to Tennessee,
there was an entire year we were focused

818
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on Tennessee history, which of course
relates to American history because it was one

819
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:57.440
of those expanding states out west.
The frontiersman and all of that, and

820
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we learned about Davy Crockett and all
these other historical characters. And I think

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that teaching history is a major part
of a proper civic education. You absolutely

822
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:14.239
right, we have to know our
story to feel like we're part of that

823
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.720
story. And you know, when
you don't do it, what you end

824
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:21.359
up with is young people who are
not the kind of informed patriots that Ronald

825
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:25.840
Reagan said that we need, so
just last year to give you an example,

826
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:29.279
Gallup poll ask people, are you
extremely proud to be an American?

827
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:35.119
Over sixty five, almost seventy percent
said yes. Under thirty, only twenty

828
01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:40.840
five percent said yes. It's the
biggest gap they've ever recorded. Why are

829
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young people not extremely proud to be
Americans? Because of the things that they

830
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:51.279
believe about America's history and founding principles? Well, from the sixteen nineteen project,

831
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:58.479
which is just full of so many
holes and CRT and now we have

832
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:05.600
the DEI that's been pushed in classes
across the country and the wholeful lot more

833
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and more than in classes, in
corporations and everything else where, your immunable

834
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:18.600
characteristics mean more than your actual abilities. And I always thought America was a

835
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great meritocracy, but seemingly in the
last twenty years we've lost a hold of

836
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that as well. Yeah, and
we need to get back to teaching the

837
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principles of our founding look at our
Declaration of Independence, our Constitution. We

838
01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:38.199
need to get back to reading those
texts, studying them together with young people

839
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:45.000
and understanding that those are the principles
that bind us together. That's above our

840
01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:48.279
group, our our ethnicity, our
background. That's the things that make us

841
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:54.840
Americans, that can lift everyone up
together and unite us. We absolutely,

842
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.640
for the sake of the republic,
we have to get back to teaching those

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01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:03.479
things. Jeff. Second, I
can't tell you how enthusday I am about

844
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:09.359
this book, and it's Do you
have some hope that we can actually turn

845
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:14.920
this around? I do. I
do because I'm also executive director of the

846
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:17.960
Ashbrook Center, as you mentioned,
and whenever we run programs, which we

847
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:23.359
do around the country for students,
teachers, and citizens in American history and

848
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:27.760
founding principles, when we do,
they respond, they love it. They're

849
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:30.520
hungry for it. To be in
a classroom with some of our Ashbrook teachers

850
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:34.600
gives you hope. And I've seen
it for myself. I've experienced it.

851
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:38.000
I have a lot of hope.
But we got to get the word out.

852
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:43.640
Your listeners can go to Ashbrook dot
org is our organization's website. We've

853
01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:45.560
got a lot of resources and they
can just know more about our mission,

854
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.880
connect with us, and we've got
to get this book out, get folks

855
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:51.920
reading it, and above all,
we got to get back to educating our

856
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:57.479
young people in our history and founding
principles. A republic if we can teach

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01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:01.720
it Fixing America's civic education crisis.
The author Jeff Sikinge, Thank you,

858
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:06.159
professor, Thank you for having me. You bet we'll have to do it

859
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:11.840
again. I think it's the nightcap
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advisor to the Secretary of Homeland Security
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Service. All the questions I could
ask, especially with what you've heard about

876
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:43.239
Secret Service lately and DEI and all
of that, but he is an author

877
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:47.560
of a book called Terrorists on the
Border and in Our Country, something that

878
01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:54.399
many of us have been kind of
aware of, at least in a cursory

879
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:59.479
level for quite a while. I've
just been talking to so many people about

880
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:06.000
this, long time before the current
Department of Homeland Security even even admitted that

881
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:14.439
there was an issue. But and
the FBI director Charles Chris Ray, Christopher

882
01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:17.479
Ray, Charles Marino, welcome to
the show. How are you, sir?

883
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:28.039
Thank you so people. I don't
think people understood. But when President

884
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:32.119
Trump was trying to do the things
that he was doing during his administration,

885
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:40.760
to stem the tide of illegal h
what i'd like to call foreign criminal trespassers

886
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:45.960
on our border, and outlining the
issues that I believe you probably outline in

887
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:50.800
your book of the dangers of this
unobated illegal invasion, especially at our southern

888
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:57.399
border, but all of our borders
by not enforcing the laws that are already

889
01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:01.600
on the books. In fact,
the Biden administration has sued Texas and saying

890
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:11.239
that their enforcement of federal immigration laws
is unconstitutional. Don't get that, but

891
01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:17.439
like some thirty thousand plus Chinese men
have come illegally across our border and they're

892
01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:21.319
still flooding in. How many of
those are spies? You're talking about hamas

893
01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:27.319
terrorists, You're talking about all manner
of people, if they're unvetted and we

894
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:30.960
don't know who they are. You
know, look what nineteen terrorists did on

895
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:38.479
September eleventh, two thousand and one. Think about thousands and perhaps millions of

896
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:42.800
people that have the same ill intent
towards our country. So outline if you

897
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:47.800
could, what the book is talking
about, Chuck Charles. Yeah, well,

898
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:53.800
I can tell you as a country, we currently face more threats from

899
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:59.079
more places than at any time in
our history. And as if that's not

900
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:06.960
hard enough, we have a presidential
administration under President Biden's leadership, who sets

901
01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:14.600
the national security strategy for the country, which is why he owns this crisis

902
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:18.199
in its entirety. But with all
of those threats that we're facing that I

903
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:24.239
mentioned from all these different places,
he is not stopping it. He is

904
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:30.279
literally ushering each and every one of
these threats that we face across our borders

905
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:38.199
and into our country. We are
encountering people from over one hundred and eighty

906
01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:42.960
different countries. Let that sink in
one hundred and eighty different countries. Many

907
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:50.039
of these are special interest locations where
we know terrorist organizations are up and running

908
01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:57.479
with a deep patred for the West. And then you talk about state actors

909
01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:02.279
like our number one adversary in China, who has historically been working with the

910
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:09.680
Mexican cartels to kill hundreds of thousands
of Americans through the production of fentanyl.

911
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:15.880
China provides all the synthetics and the
Mexican cartels produce the drug with those ingredients,

912
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:23.439
and we have an eighteen hundred percent
increase in Chinese nationals coming into the

913
01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:30.840
United States since the Trump administration.
Numbers that high nobody moves from China without

914
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:35.359
the sign off of the PRC,
the People's Republic of China. So,

915
01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:42.720
as you indicated, we're dealing with
a whole host of threats coming from both

916
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:47.880
state and non state actors into the
country, and this administration really is unprecedented.

917
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:57.800
Will show in how they have completely
walked away from their federal responsibilities of

918
01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:01.840
enforcing the border and in greation laws
of this country. Well, the conjecture

919
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:10.079
is Charles, is that they're doing
this strictly for a voting base that they

920
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:14.960
know will be loyal to them.
It's been estimated by an electoral studies study

921
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:21.640
done starting in twenty fourteen that as
many as twenty five twenty seven percent of

922
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:29.239
non citizens of foreigners are voting are
registered to vote illegally in this country.

923
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:35.239
And I think that in twenty fourteen
they admitted eight point four percent admitted illegals,

924
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:40.359
admitted that they illegally voted and their
votes counted. So, I mean

925
01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:45.560
there's a reason behind this that the
Biden administration is doing it and so strictly

926
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:51.079
to remain in power as long as
they can. They're subverting our ability to

927
01:17:51.199 --> 01:18:00.359
protect ourselves as a sovereign NAT's yeah, and let's look at the sequence even

928
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:04.520
more closely to show that the vote
is the ultimate goal here. They want

929
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:10.439
those in the country illegal to be
eligible to work, to have work permits,

930
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:15.880
they want them to have driver's licenses. They now want to issue issue

931
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:24.840
and actually a federal ID specific to
illegal immigrants, and all of this documentation

932
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:31.159
is going to allow them ultimately to
vote. So not only do you have

933
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:35.680
the concern about the illegal voting that's
going to take place, but they actually

934
01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:41.760
want to facilitate and make this legal
for those who don't even belong in the

935
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:45.079
country to cast their vote. So, yes, it's about power. Yes,

936
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:50.119
it's about putting politics over national security. It has from the start,

937
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:56.319
and what this administration has shown to
all Americans, which by the way,

938
01:18:56.399 --> 01:18:58.880
this border crisis. I got to
tell you, I'm out on the road

939
01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:02.520
now doing much book signings and people
are very openly coming up to me and

940
01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:06.199
saying, I am a Democrat,
this is a problem. I am a

941
01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:14.079
Republican, this is a problem.
The President has unified both Democrat and Republican

942
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:19.239
voters on this issue because it's no
longer isolated to the border, it's now

943
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:26.119
been present within their own communities and
they're seeing this and being impacted by it.

944
01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:30.079
And one thing that Americans are getting
sick and tired of hearing from this

945
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:34.760
administration is that what they're now experiencing
and seeing as a result of this crisis

946
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:41.359
isn't actually happened. They're being told
that they're dreaming all of this, and

947
01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:45.159
it's an insult. It's an insult
to the American people, and it's also

948
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:48.880
endangering their lives they've made. Look
that if we want to really critique this

949
01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:56.279
administration, we have to ask three
simple questions was the world Is the world

950
01:19:56.359 --> 01:20:00.039
more stable under President Biden? Or
was it more stable underfo President Trump?

951
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:06.520
Right? Are our adversaries more empowered
now under President Biden than they were under

952
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:13.279
former President Trump? Right? And
finally, is the United States a more

953
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:20.159
dangerous place to live under President Biden? And the answer is yes. Well,

954
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:25.600
I just I hope that at some
point there is a reckoning and we

955
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:31.600
have the ability to maybe call up
the current DHS Secretary of may orcus on

956
01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:39.199
charges of treason because I believe that
the under the instruction of the Biden regime,

957
01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:45.079
they are giving away our country literally, Well, there needs to be

958
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:50.680
accountability in these positions, obviously,
because my orcus has proven that you can

959
01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:56.479
swear an oath to protect and defend
the United States of America and then get

960
01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:00.760
into the position and do nothing to
support what you took an oath for.

961
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:06.760
So it's a shame. We now
need to hold people accountable, especially when

962
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:10.920
it comes to protecting the country,
if they're not going to get in there

963
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:15.279
and do the job that they swore
an oath to do. And that's a

964
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:19.880
big problem. And I can tell
you he is implementing. The Secretary's implementing

965
01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:26.279
these policies at the direction of the
President, and each of these policies with

966
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:32.359
respect to the border and immigration undercuts
the federal responsibilities of the agencies that fall

967
01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:42.399
under him. So as a result, they're undercutting the statutory authorities of these

968
01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:47.720
agencies. They're switching agencies like Customs
and Border Protection to prevent them from enforcing

969
01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:55.720
the law, to become an agency
that just processes as many illegal migrants into

970
01:21:55.760 --> 01:22:00.680
the country. And the other thing
is it impacts the moralities agency. So

971
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:05.439
now we're losing a lot of good
people who actually took the same oath the

972
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:11.680
Secretary Homeland Security did, but they're
not being allowed to do the jobs that

973
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:15.760
they actually want to go out and
do to keep the country safe. Charles

974
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:18.560
Morino, There's a lot of consequences. Charles Morino, thank you for your

975
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:23.239
time tonight. And I'm sorry terrorist
on the border and in our country.

976
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:26.960
It's out now. Read it.
Open your eyes, folks, it is

977
01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:30.920
really happening. Thank you, Charles. Another hour of the Nightcap with the

978
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:35.880
fur Bowl coming up. Just ahead, News, traffic and weather. News

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01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:45.520
Radio seven hundred WL Cincinnati Day nineteen
complete the Trump hush money trial well the

980
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:49.479
eleven o'clock reports. I'm Ley mawin
Breaking Now. Monday proved to be a

981
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:55.479
very dramatic day inside the New York
court room where former President Donald Trump's trial

982
01:22:55.520 --> 01:23:00.359
and an alleged fraudulent hush money scheme
is underway. After thesecution rested, the

983
01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:04.600
defense brought out their own star witness
to refute the claims made by Mocho Cohen

984
01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:10.399
attorney Robert Costello, the man who
advised Cohen when the former fixer was facing

985
01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:15.880
charges six years ago. ABC Senior
investigative correspondent Aaron Katski has more. Costello

986
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:20.720
testified Cohen was menic and suicidal,
quoting him saying, my life is shattered,

987
01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:24.800
my family's life is shattered. I
really want you to explain to me

988
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:29.000
what my options are. What's my
escape route. Costello said he told Cohen

989
01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:31.359
all his problems would go away if
he just told the FEDS the truth about

990
01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:35.319
Donald Trump and the deal with Stormy
Daniels. But he said Cohen insisted Trump

991
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:39.840
knew nothing about those payments, that
he did this on his own, saying,

992
01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:42.960
I swear to God, Bob,
I don't have anything on Donald Trump.

993
01:23:43.159 --> 01:23:47.079
Another explosive reveal, Trump's defense attorney
also got Cohen to admit on cross

994
01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:53.520
a damnation he sold thirty thousand dollars
from the Trump organization by claiming it was

995
01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:59.800
reimbursement for non existent IT expenses.
Costello returns to the stand tomorrow. Moring

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01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:05.279
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by high of eighty eight at night, fair skies and a low down to

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Meteorologist Steve Rawley, News Radio seven
hundred WLW. It's seventy one degrees in

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Cincinnati and the radar is all clear. In Clinton County, Several students we

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are taken to the hospital today with
minor injuries after a crash involving an East

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01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:56.079
Clinton Local school bus. It happened
after three o'clock this afternoon on I seventy

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one near State Route seventy two and
Stone Road. The bus was travel southbound

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01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:03.640
before going off on the right side, hitting to Colvert's, a mailbox and

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a ditch. Of the thirty seven
students on the bus four team were taken

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to the hospital by either ems or
their parents. Forty year old Tanya Kimball,

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the driver on the bus, was
charged with operating a motor vehicle without

1012
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:23.039
reasonable control. One crucial sports venue
in the area is getting a makeover.

1013
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:28.039
They say the entire campus is being
elegantly reimagined. Designs are out for the

1014
01:25:28.039 --> 01:25:30.920
two hundred and sixty million dollars makeover
of the Linder Family Tennis Center in Mason,

1015
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:34.000
where the Cinnetti opened his plate.
Highlight of the model will be a

1016
01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:38.600
new facade that wraps around center court
in the grand stand. Just north of

1017
01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:42.039
that will be a new plaza with
canopies that provides a needed shelter from the

1018
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:45.319
sun. South of the existing facility, they'll be building a new two thousand

1019
01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:48.439
seat stadium for matches, plus a
new players area with a lounge and restaurant

1020
01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:51.439
works. All supposed to be done
by August of twenty twenty five, when

1021
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:55.920
the tournament doubles the number of men
and women competing. Designs for the new

1022
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:59.520
look come from Gensler, a global
architecture firm. They're the same firm that's

1023
01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.000
been working on the designs for a
reimagine home for the Bengals. That report

1024
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:06.560
is expected next month. And Brian
Colmes News Radio seven hundred WLW red's update.

1025
01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:10.960
After an off day today, they're
back in action tomorrow to kick off

1026
01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:15.720
a nine game homestand the San Diego
Padres are in town. First, join

1027
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:17.640
us on the Big one for the
Covert starting at five forty with the inside

1028
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:23.119
pitch first pitch at six forty.
As left hander Andrew Abbott scheduled to make

1029
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:27.079
the start. Our next update is
at eleven thirty. I'm Lee Allen News

1030
01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:30.840
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not tonight, It's the home of
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1037
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:04.479
Andy Furman in this half hour because
we got lots to talk about. Andy.

1038
01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:08.840
It's been way too long since you
and I had a little ted of

1039
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:14.079
tay, a little chance to chat. Now is our time. Let's make

1040
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:18.640
the most of whatever it is is
seventeen eighteen minutes. We've got what has

1041
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:23.880
been cooking on your back burner you're
willing to bring to the front because it's

1042
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:27.880
about to boil over inside you.
Andy. Not only is it cook so,

1043
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:30.479
first of it's about time this freaking
station. We get back on the

1044
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:32.479
air. Really, I mean the
Reds. Let's take go out of time.

1045
01:27:32.479 --> 01:27:35.520
I have no idea what's going on
because the newspapers they're playing on a

1046
01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:39.159
Friday. You know, you don't
read it till Sunday. There's no Saturday

1047
01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:43.199
paper, so you know. Now
we could get back into no Mattlis Butio

1048
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:47.079
and and Andy. You can hear
every game all season long right here in

1049
01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:53.000
the home in the morning on seven
hundred lorning. I know, I know,

1050
01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:55.199
I know, stop with the promo. You don't have to kiss but

1051
01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:57.239
anymore. You don't have to do
it. I know they're on me.

1052
01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:00.479
Everybody knows they're on there. How
many people are staying up in the morning

1053
01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:02.680
listen to a basebo No, Look, Candy, did you have a DVR?

1054
01:28:02.760 --> 01:28:06.279
You could DVR the broadcast. I'm
not doing that. Look. Look,

1055
01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:10.439
I like live stuff everything live,
like this show. Like right now,

1056
01:28:10.479 --> 01:28:12.520
let's get into it. And I
want to be the voice of a

1057
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:15.680
common schlet, a common fan.
And I got this platform. Thank god

1058
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:16.960
you gave it to me. I'm
going to talk about it. The NFL

1059
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:20.239
is a great it's a great entity, it's a great business. I understand

1060
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:24.119
it's a business, and I have
one hell of a business model because they

1061
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:28.319
want to get revenue, revenue streaming. That's what they do at the expense

1062
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:30.560
of guys like you, me and
everybody else. Let's take an example.

1063
01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:33.560
A family of four wants to go
to an NFL game. You can't get

1064
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:40.279
out of it without spending four hundred
dollars plus parking and concession in New York.

1065
01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:42.640
Right, go to a Giant game
in New York. It's two hundred

1066
01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:45.520
bucks to park. Okay, So
now they're bleeding us if you don't want

1067
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:46.800
to go to a game. They
got all these platforms. You have no

1068
01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:50.039
idea what freaking platform the game is
going to be anyway. Anyway, they

1069
01:28:50.039 --> 01:28:54.239
got Netflix, they got Amazon,
they got ESPN Plus, they got Peacock,

1070
01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:57.359
said the NFL Sunday ticket. I
figured out how much is going to

1071
01:28:57.399 --> 01:29:00.159
cost a month if in fact you
have to do this. Are you are

1072
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:01.239
ready? Are you ready for the
numbers? Now? Yes, this is

1073
01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:06.920
making me sick. Netflix six ninety
nine a month, Amazon Prime Video eight

1074
01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:13.159
ninety nine a month, ESPN Plus
ten ninety nine a month, Peacock five

1075
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:16.640
ninety nine a month. NFL Sunday
Ticket for payments of one twelve to twenty

1076
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:21.119
five a month, as if you
don't have YouTube right right subscription fee for

1077
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:26.359
all streaming services per month per month
if you want the NFL right now one

1078
01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:30.399
hundred and forty five twenty one cents
without a prime membership and your YouTube TV

1079
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:33.960
plan. This is outrageous. It's
a monopoly. It's got to stop.

1080
01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:38.840
And I want somebody to start a
movement for all fans of this league to

1081
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:42.479
say, wait a minute, stop
gouging us. I get it. You

1082
01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:45.359
want to st a revenue stream,
I get it. He Roger Goodell,

1083
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:47.680
the commissioner, works at the bequest
of the ownership, and he's making the

1084
01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:51.439
owners real rich at our expense.
I mean, it's enough already, don't

1085
01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:57.279
you agree. Well, all these
streaming platforms you're talking about, all these

1086
01:29:57.399 --> 01:30:00.800
apps, they have paid a lot
of money to the NFL so they can

1087
01:30:01.079 --> 01:30:04.640
who cares provide these games? So
they've got to make their money, bet

1088
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:10.159
money from us. Yes, they're
recouping them. You and me, Now,

1089
01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.640
Andy, let me ask you this. Do you believe, since you're

1090
01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:18.920
on this everyman kind of rant right
now, do you believe that all NFL

1091
01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:24.720
games should only be on broadcast TV
that you can pick up with a simple

1092
01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.680
antenna. Yes, yes, I
agree. Yes they should be on over

1093
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:30.880
the air free TV. Why not. Why shouldn't they, you know why

1094
01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:35.439
over their free TV by people watching
them at one o'clock on the East Coast

1095
01:30:35.479 --> 01:30:40.239
every Sunday made that league what it
is. That's what made the league what

1096
01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:43.720
it was really back of the sixties. Don't really care about the NFL.

1097
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:46.279
Matter of fact, home games are
blackouts. There was a blackout rule when

1098
01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:48.800
I was a kid, I couldn't
watch the New York Football Giants. My

1099
01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:53.199
buddies used to have to drive the
Connecticut on Sunday to watch the games on

1100
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:57.760
TV to get past the ninety mile
radius distance that approved the blackout. I

1101
01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:01.560
remember that. So listen, listen. Were you in favor of the blackout?

1102
01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:06.560
No, no, it's a stupid
rule. They thought that a blackout

1103
01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:11.199
would create more people going to the
games. That's why they blocked it out,

1104
01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:13.760
because people would stay home watch it
on TV. Well, you know

1105
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:16.079
what, they lifted the blackout.
People in fact did stay home and watch

1106
01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:19.520
on TV. And now what they're
doing, they're sort of creating another blackout

1107
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:25.000
situation. If you will, A
paywall to watch these games. I don't

1108
01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:27.840
think it's right, and no one's
really bitching about it, and I don't

1109
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.159
understand it. I don't understand it. And you know what, these people

1110
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:34.960
behind microphones that I work with and
nationally, locally whatever, I don't hear

1111
01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:39.319
Lance Mcallisy yelling and swimming about it. I don't hear Mowagger talking about it.

1112
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:42.520
Why aren't they upset about it?
Why am I the only idiot upset

1113
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:45.479
about it? Because I guess they
just have the Well, it is what

1114
01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:49.800
it is, and that's the way
things have changed, and that's today yesterday.

1115
01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:53.600
Lance doesn't want to ruffle the feathers. There's want a rough liney,

1116
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.199
I get it. Look, I'm
one of those guys. I like to

1117
01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:59.039
rock the boat a little bit.
There's nothing wrong with rocking the boat.

1118
01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:03.760
You do it some usually, usually, usually I would disagree with you on

1119
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:08.960
almost everything, vehemently, just because
it makes for better radio. But I

1120
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:14.920
can't do it tonight because I'm not
with you. I'm not doing It's just

1121
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.279
how we really feel. So anyway, you said something very telling, you

1122
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:20.439
know, in the games were at
one o'clock Eastern. I have believed for

1123
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:26.039
a long time in my heart of
heart, Sandy, that God himself the

1124
01:32:26.119 --> 01:32:30.000
supreme being who is in charge of
everything that happens. Okay, don't I

1125
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:32.479
thought you were. I thought you
were an atheist. No, I believe

1126
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:36.880
in Jesus Christ is my savior.
Anty I didn't know that. So here's

1127
01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:41.720
here's what I'm And by the way, I want you to tune into podcast

1128
01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:45.239
because I know you didn't hear it
earlier. I had sid rothon who is

1129
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:47.640
a Jew who believes in Jesus,
and I think maybe you should benefit from

1130
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:51.840
that conversation. But I'm I believe
in Jesus. He was a Jew.

1131
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:58.000
He was a Jew. I believe
as the Messiah, as the Messiah.

1132
01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:00.960
No. See, that's what that's
where we differ. Anyway, back to

1133
01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:06.560
our conversation about the NFL. I
believe that God ordained one pm Eastern to

1134
01:33:06.720 --> 01:33:13.000
be the kickoff times of all NFL
games. I think that's the only right

1135
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:18.760
time to watch NFL is Sunday at
one pm. What has helped facilitate the

1136
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:25.840
need for all these different platforms and
the ability to you know, broadcast them

1137
01:33:25.880 --> 01:33:30.159
against several networks and several platforms is
the fact that we got Thursday night games

1138
01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:34.279
we got Monday night games, we
got Saturday games sometimes during the season.

1139
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:38.560
We got these games in Europe.
How do you feel about the games in

1140
01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:42.800
Europe? Is that okay? Again, it's very similar to the to the

1141
01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:47.560
different platforms of the TV revenue situation
because they're expanding their brand and that's what

1142
01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:51.319
they do with Netflix and they do
with Amazon Prime and Peacock whatever it may

1143
01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:55.279
be. They're expanding the brand.
And I get it. It's a very

1144
01:33:55.359 --> 01:33:58.159
popular sport. They want everybody to
have a taste of it. And what

1145
01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:00.880
do they do when they expand the
brand, Well, people watch what people

1146
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:02.720
spend money on jerseys, whatever it
may be, and that's exactly what it

1147
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.600
is. They make more money,
you know. But they're doing the same

1148
01:34:05.720 --> 01:34:11.039
thing, doing the same thing that
cable company and satellite companies do and cell

1149
01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:15.159
phone companies do. They forget about
their current customers. They're always looking for

1150
01:34:15.439 --> 01:34:19.199
more, and if you're a new
customer, you get all kinds of little

1151
01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:26.479
perks and gifts that the person who's
been paying the weight of these companies for

1152
01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:30.640
the last twenty years don't get because
oh they're just old. We've already got

1153
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:33.560
them. We're gonna hook some new
fish on the line. So that's my

1154
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:39.039
little gripe about it. The NFL's
doing the same thing with all of these

1155
01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:43.880
different platforms and charging all this money
just so you can watch their product.

1156
01:34:44.279 --> 01:34:48.000
Isn't the advertising on network TV enough? NFL? No, it's not a

1157
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:53.880
knot. You want more, more
more, you you're up on this more

1158
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:58.039
than I am. I understand as
a legislation in Ohio for sports bars and

1159
01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:01.920
taverns to get these games free,
and that would be great because I think

1160
01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:08.239
these sports bars and taverns believe that
these situations are hurting their business by people

1161
01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:10.960
who used to go there and watch
a game on a Sunday afternoon, have

1162
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.079
a couple of cold ones and maybe
a pizza or something like that, and

1163
01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:16.319
and now they can't do it because
they would have to pay to get these

1164
01:35:16.439 --> 01:35:20.560
games broadcast into their sports bar.
So I think there's a legislation in Ohio

1165
01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:26.479
only not Kentucky, but in Ohio
to get the sports bars to veto these

1166
01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:29.439
things and get them free, which
would be amazing and it'd be great for

1167
01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:30.960
their business, and it'll be great. I think that's what shit. I

1168
01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:33.960
really don't I really, I really
don't like to go to sports bars in

1169
01:35:34.039 --> 01:35:40.199
Ohio. In fact, I really
don't like to go to the right even

1170
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:43.119
though I don't like watching games there. But if it means the only outlet

1171
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:45.000
I can watch that game for free
rather than pay for it, I will

1172
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.359
do it. I will do it. I wear headphones so I wouldn't have

1173
01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:51.119
to hear the yelling and screaming at
the sports bar. I wear headphones,

1174
01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:54.680
and that's what I'll do and get
there early so I get a good spot.

1175
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:57.119
But other than that, I have
no desire to go to a sports

1176
01:35:57.199 --> 01:35:59.000
on. Hold, hold on,
hold on, let me ask you something.

1177
01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:00.239
You just brought something else us up, and I want to address this

1178
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:03.159
with you and find out where you
stand on this. Andy Furman, you

1179
01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:10.279
talked about the yelling and screaming during
games. I've always found that a little

1180
01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:16.760
bit like troglodyte neanderthal activity, because
you understand, while you may be emotionally

1181
01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:20.720
invested in your team and what you're
watching and what's happening on the screen,

1182
01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:29.680
they can't hear you. Do these
people who are yelling it's whether it's at

1183
01:36:29.720 --> 01:36:32.479
home or in a sports bar.
Do they under do these people who were

1184
01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:39.680
yelling and screaming during the game understand
the players, the announcers, the referees

1185
01:36:40.479 --> 01:36:45.399
can't and they don't care. No, But it's a vehicle for after the

1186
01:36:45.560 --> 01:36:49.399
game when the coach and or players
are interviewed and say, man, the

1187
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:54.000
fans really were like the twelfth Man. They got us the victory. You

1188
01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:59.000
know, you've got to seattle that
if you're if you're in the if you're

1189
01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:01.520
in the arena, you're at the
stadium, yeah they can hear you.

1190
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:05.720
But when you're sitting at home or
you're in a sports bar, they can't.

1191
01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:10.640
They can't hear you, and they
don't care. Well, you know

1192
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:13.640
what I would tell you, there's
a difference. When you're at the stadium

1193
01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:16.119
and you're yelling and screaming, you're
actually rooting for your team. You invested,

1194
01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:19.640
you paid money for a ticket,
that's why you're there. But sports

1195
01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:25.000
bar at home, you're not vested, but you're yelling because you have money

1196
01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:27.760
on it. You bet on it, and if a guy dropped the pass,

1197
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:30.239
you go nuts and you throw something
at the TV set. You know

1198
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:32.119
what I'm saying. That's so that's
a difference yelling. There's a different reason

1199
01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:35.840
reasoning for yelling. One because you're
a fan and you're rooting the other one

1200
01:37:35.880 --> 01:37:39.479
because you got money on the deal
and you're really upset or real happy,

1201
01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:43.560
And a lot a lot more people
are in that category too these days,

1202
01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:48.880
so kind of associated with that.
You know what I can't stand. I

1203
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:54.279
watched the PGA Championship this weekend.
I mean after Scheffler got let out of

1204
01:37:54.520 --> 01:38:00.399
uh, you know, Louisville traffic
jail. Anyway, so I'm watching watching

1205
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:08.119
it and and this bugs me to
death. And it's every tournament, every

1206
01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:12.560
important shot, somebody feels like they've
got to yell. As soon as this

1207
01:38:12.800 --> 01:38:15.640
the golfer has swung at the ball
and made contact, they got to yell

1208
01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:20.159
something. What is when did that
start in golf? And why do they

1209
01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:25.279
do that? They do it just
to hear themselves on TV? Is what

1210
01:38:25.439 --> 01:38:28.159
they do. That's exactly right.
And I'll tell you, son, it's

1211
01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:30.279
funny. I was checking my Twitter
count or what do you call X y

1212
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:33.560
Z, whatever the hell you want
to call it. And Dan Horde obviously

1213
01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:39.079
was there, and he made a
comment on Twitter saying that it seemed to

1214
01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:45.039
him that everybody at that tournament in
Louisville was yelling who they I heard a

1215
01:38:45.079 --> 01:38:49.720
couple of days. Yes, it's
crazy. I look, people are crazy.

1216
01:38:50.039 --> 01:38:53.640
You don't have to see a live
shot during the news, and there's

1217
01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:59.880
always some clown behind the guy woman. Usually it makes it makes more sense.

1218
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:03.760
And the broadcaster who's doing the stand
up usually right. And I'll tell

1219
01:39:03.760 --> 01:39:09.840
you something else. It's funny because
the TV producers they're the blame, the

1220
01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:12.720
producers and directors. When you go
to a game, a live game that's

1221
01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.840
on TV and they pay the stands
and the guys that wear the stupidest outfits

1222
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:19.600
of the NFL games, the football
games they get on TV, which tells

1223
01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:23.279
people, you know what I'm going
to get on TV. I'm going to

1224
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:25.279
dress like a moose. You know
what I'm saying. That's what they do.

1225
01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:30.039
So I don't care about who's in
the stands. I really don't.

1226
01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:32.239
And another thing that hurts me when
I'm watching the game, they'll put these

1227
01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:35.800
stupid little headlines on the bottom of
the screen and it covers up all the

1228
01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:42.920
important information that really does you know
the little notes that you scroll the scroll

1229
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.720
on the bottom say, after the
first quarter is over, They'll say,

1230
01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:49.279
Joe Burrow has had three first downs
in the first quarter. Who care you

1231
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:51.640
know that. I mean, the
stop it already. I don't need to

1232
01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:56.319
know every single thing that is going
on. But that again is for the

1233
01:39:56.399 --> 01:39:59.439
gamblers, Andy, because there are
bets, some stuff like that the whole

1234
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:01.319
game. So there was one more
thing you wanted to get off your chest.

1235
01:40:01.399 --> 01:40:04.520
And we got about five minutes left
so quickly. Well we may we

1236
01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:06.640
may need more. But I want
to talk about Harrison. Butker, the

1237
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:11.279
kicker, the kicker from the Kansas
City changed my team. We spoke of

1238
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:15.000
an addicting college and Kansas and you
talk about this all the time, Gary,

1239
01:40:15.079 --> 01:40:16.640
Jeff diversity of speech, and that's
basically what he had do. I

1240
01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:19.399
agree what he said entirely. No, not really because he foolish to go

1241
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:23.119
in that direction. Yes, but
why is he getting killed? He was

1242
01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:26.520
getting foolish to go. He wasn't
foolish to go in any direction. Your

1243
01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:30.640
point is he has the right to
spouse his beliefs, especially when he was

1244
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:35.920
invited by this college to speak at
their commitments commencement. It's a small NFL,

1245
01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:41.479
it's a small Catholic college who got
a devout Catholic to give a commencement

1246
01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:45.439
address. In the story, he
was talking about scriptural things and the order

1247
01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:53.279
of what he believes is is man
and woman's role in life according to God.

1248
01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:58.079
And that's all he was doing.
But the NFL wanted to distance themselves

1249
01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:00.800
from him because all they want to
you know, it's bad enough to his

1250
01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:03.600
feedback and negative feed back for what
he did. I get it, everybody.

1251
01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:05.399
You know, I'll go on the
radio. You go on the radio,

1252
01:41:05.439 --> 01:41:10.640
you say, you know, you
get it. You stick ahead above

1253
01:41:10.680 --> 01:41:12.760
water. That's's gonna happen, right, You're used to it. I'm used

1254
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:15.720
to it, no doubt. But
when the NFL does that and they have

1255
01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:19.399
diversity signs in every end zone,
you know, let's be one, it

1256
01:41:19.479 --> 01:41:23.520
takes a village. You know,
I'm saying, they have that diversity garbage

1257
01:41:23.680 --> 01:41:27.000
and every end zone in every stadium, in every field, and now you

1258
01:41:27.079 --> 01:41:30.079
have a guy speaking each diversity and
you you're saying, oh, well,

1259
01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:32.640
we don't know this guy. He's
not part of us. That's his deal.

1260
01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:35.760
And the Kansas City chief said that
approssriate. They did the same thing

1261
01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:41.640
because this whole, this whole move, this whole move to diversity in our

1262
01:41:41.720 --> 01:41:45.279
society, diversity, equity, and
inclusion. It has nothing to do with

1263
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:50.920
diversity of thought, which it should
include. It's all about checking boxes.

1264
01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:58.159
Are you are you a Hispanic transsexual
woman? Are you this? Or are

1265
01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:01.000
you that? And you're gonna get
hired because you're you're checking a box.

1266
01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:09.079
It's not about diversity of thought or
or allowing freedom of thought from anyone and

1267
01:42:09.319 --> 01:42:15.039
in speech that you may not agree
with to be allowed. They're they're hypocrites,

1268
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:17.039
is what they are. And when
they talk about the worst thing is

1269
01:42:17.359 --> 01:42:21.000
where are his teammates? Not on
one teammate of him and the Kansas City

1270
01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:24.000
chiefs to come out and say,
you know what, get off his back.

1271
01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:26.640
He had to say something. You
don't have to agree with him,

1272
01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:29.960
but leave Maloney's our teammate. Everybody
runs a hide, you know why,

1273
01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:32.720
because they're afraid of that canceled culture
garbage. They're afraid of it. They

1274
01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:35.760
know that if they say something,
they'll be in just in worse shape.

1275
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:40.439
But you know what, His jerseys
sold big time, big time over the

1276
01:42:40.479 --> 01:42:43.640
weekend. People will buy in his
jersey, Yes, and that's that's amazing

1277
01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:46.960
because not many people buy jerseys of
Kickers. Because people in this country have

1278
01:42:47.079 --> 01:42:54.159
had enough of this dei craft.
They've had enough of this canceled culture majority.

1279
01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:57.239
No, it's it's a very small
minority, a very small, loud

1280
01:42:57.319 --> 01:43:01.319
minority that has been pushing all this
garbage. And the reason that it's existed

1281
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:08.079
this long is because people haven't made
a stand. They're afraid when people when

1282
01:43:08.159 --> 01:43:11.720
people stand up to bullies, guess
what, the bullies go away. It's

1283
01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:15.000
not just for middle school, but
it's in adult life too, when you

1284
01:43:15.159 --> 01:43:17.079
stand up to the bullies. And
that's all the DEI crowd are a bunch

1285
01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:20.520
of canceled culture bullies. When you
stand up to them and you say no,

1286
01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:25.960
I'm not going to apologize, I'm
not going to back off my statement.

1287
01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:30.039
That's when they shrink and go away. Because there are more There are

1288
01:43:30.119 --> 01:43:35.319
more of us than there are there
are more of us. Who's that Lou

1289
01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:41.880
Holtz stood up to him yesterday?
God bless Lou Holtz because he again I'm

1290
01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:45.079
not saying I agree with everything he
had to say, but has every damn

1291
01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:47.000
right to say what he says.
You know what, Andy, I don't

1292
01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:49.760
know that I agree with everything he
said. Most of it, I do,

1293
01:43:50.199 --> 01:43:54.720
and I think, but I do
think it's instructive that as we end

1294
01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:58.279
this conversation, go tell your wife
to be a good wife and make you

1295
01:43:58.319 --> 01:44:01.319
a sandwich, all right, and
to wash the floor. I do my

1296
01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:05.920
laundry right bye for a ball,
Thank you, I love you. Goodbye.

1297
01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:15.560
We'll close the nightcap with Lee Habib
coming up right afternoons. Rocky Boyman

1298
01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:17.439
here. I played in the NFL, and that's pretty cool. I'm also

1299
01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:21.119
a published author, and that's pretty
cool. I also once shared an elevator

1300
01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:25.720
with a Dalai Lama and that's also
pretty cool. But none of that compares

1301
01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:29.199
to hearing the podcast of the Eddy
and Rocky Show. The iHeartRadio app.

1302
01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:33.880
Now that's very cool. There's a
lot to celebrate this month, graduations,

1303
01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:38.079
the end of the school of year. In warmer months, Lina had celebrated

1304
01:44:38.159 --> 01:44:42.479
the Clean Home by calling the Cleaning
WLW. I bring to you someone that

1305
01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:45.760
I really love having on the air. He is the host of Our American

1306
01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:50.720
Stories, the creator of that program. And also he's with Salem Media and

1307
01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:56.039
has been since well for a while, and he helped co found Laura Ingram's

1308
01:44:56.079 --> 01:44:59.319
radio show back in two thousand and
one. And I always tell people,

1309
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:01.439
as a radio guy doing interviews,
if you get to rate, if you

1310
01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:05.800
do an interview, with another radio
guy or gal. It's always wonderful and

1311
01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:11.279
this guy especially because he's got great
information. Lee Habib, welcome to the

1312
01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:15.640
show. Thanks for having me.
All right, we are talking eighteen sixty

1313
01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:18.640
four first tonight, and we're talking
eighteen sixty four. You did an Our

1314
01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:25.319
American Stories segment on eighteen sixty four, and why well, people are always

1315
01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:29.880
chiming in the twenty twenty four is
the most divided this country's ever seen,

1316
01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:35.600
and maybe not so fast. Talk
about eighteen sixty four and the great divide

1317
01:45:35.680 --> 01:45:41.479
that was existing in this country at
the time, Lee, or we're in

1318
01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:45.479
mid in the thick of the Civil
War in January first, eighteen sixty four.

1319
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:48.960
Lincoln's morning that day, January first, he's greeting a bunch of folks

1320
01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:54.960
who love Lincoln and good morning.
In the afternoon, he learns that the

1321
01:45:55.520 --> 01:46:00.159
Confederate troops have logged within sixty miles
of DC six thousand and forces. This

1322
01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:04.439
is a complete source of frustration for
Lincoln. He's won Gettysburg, he's won

1323
01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:09.800
Vicksburg, he's won Chattanooga in sixty
three, but in sixty four, here

1324
01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:15.520
are these rabid and just pesky Southern
troops they're too close to home. And

1325
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:19.399
by the way, they just won
Chancellorville a big victory, and he could

1326
01:46:19.479 --> 01:46:25.079
Lincoln could not get Richmond to fall. Richmond was only ninety five miles for

1327
01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:30.319
the nation's capital. Due South slavery
was still intact, and these troops,

1328
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:33.560
Lincoln learned, were re enlisting at
record rates. In other words, they

1329
01:46:33.680 --> 01:46:38.720
were highly motivated. They wanted to
keep their way of life and not just

1330
01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:41.840
slavery. A lot of Southerners didn't
own slaves, or they had one or

1331
01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:45.680
two. They liked the idea of
their state autonomy too. The North thought

1332
01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:48.439
for slavery. The South fork in
part to defend slavery, but the South

1333
01:46:48.520 --> 01:46:53.319
also fort because they didn't want the
North to call them the shots. So

1334
01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:57.600
it was a complicated, complicated work, mostly driven by slavery, but there

1335
01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:00.880
were other factors. And his eighteen
sixty four goes, on, my goodness,

1336
01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:08.359
the South keeps holding its ground and
exacting huge losses on the Union and

1337
01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:12.960
on Lincoln. And this was their
hope. By the election of eighteen sixty

1338
01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:16.359
four in November, they were hoping, get the body count high enough and

1339
01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:20.600
they'll nominate they'll run the Democrats,
an anti war president that ended up being

1340
01:47:20.680 --> 01:47:25.760
McClellan. Not exactly a pacifist.
The guy is a general. He's gonna

1341
01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:30.640
basically say we can't win this war. And by July Lincoln is suffering epic

1342
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:38.199
casualties. Grant suffered huge losses against
Lee in the Battle of the Wilderness at

1343
01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:43.439
Cold Harbor. Grant lost and get
this number, because it's a crazy number,

1344
01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:47.560
in Cold Harbor, Virginia in forty
five days, Grant lost sixty thousand

1345
01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:55.239
men and gained only sixty miles of
territory. That ten percent had twelve thousand

1346
01:47:55.319 --> 01:47:59.640
troops five miles from DC. Things
were not looking good for Abraham Lincoln at

1347
01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:01.239
that moment, and he was so
sure he was going to lose that he

1348
01:48:01.319 --> 01:48:06.439
had his entire cabinet signed a blind
sealed memorandum essentially saying, if we can't

1349
01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:11.800
win this war, there's going to
be a peaceful transition of power and the

1350
01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:15.680
Union will be separated. The Union
will be separated. And then came the

1351
01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:18.800
news, right, because then came
a political event that changed everything. And

1352
01:48:18.920 --> 01:48:25.159
it was a memo that Lincoln got
on September third, and it just had

1353
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:30.760
six words and he said, Atlanta
is ours and fairly won, They'd won

1354
01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:33.479
the battle they needed to win.
Lincoln did, and that was the heart

1355
01:48:33.560 --> 01:48:38.920
the big city and the heart of
the Confederacy. And everything changed from that

1356
01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:42.920
day on and Lincoln won, and
he won decisively. But boy, if

1357
01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:45.680
you would have told him at the
beginning of August of eighteen sixty four that

1358
01:48:45.800 --> 01:48:48.760
he was going to win, I
don't think he thought he had a chance.

1359
01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.880
Most of the leadership at his party
didn't think he had a chance.

1360
01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:58.039
And I'll tell you the biggest thing. They were facing a huge economic decline.

1361
01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:02.399
The Union had tremendous debt, It
had huge bills to pay and couldn't

1362
01:49:02.439 --> 01:49:08.000
even pay the soldiers. Worse,
the dollar had dropped to thirty seven cents.

1363
01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:11.359
So when people say we've never been
divided or more divided, I go,

1364
01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:15.520
eh, slightly more. And when
people say, you know, things

1365
01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:18.319
are you know, things are just
worse economically, I go, oh,

1366
01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:21.239
my goodness, you don't know.
I mean, imagine if the dollar was

1367
01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:26.199
worth thirty seven cents, right,
I just imagine that and forget about you

1368
01:49:26.279 --> 01:49:30.399
know, three percent inflation and nine
percent inflation. The devaluation of the dollar

1369
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:32.319
is the worst thing that can happen. It's as bad as inflation, if

1370
01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:35.720
not worse. Well, I mean
it's good where some people say we're headed

1371
01:49:35.760 --> 01:49:42.560
that way Lee, But Grant loses
sixty thousand that's one tenth of the soldiers

1372
01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:45.880
who were killed in the entire Civil
War in forty five days, that's right,

1373
01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:50.560
and he and we lost ninety thousand
soldiers. The Union law I say

1374
01:49:50.600 --> 01:49:54.520
weak as I grew up in New
Jersey, I live in Mississippi now that

1375
01:49:54.600 --> 01:50:00.319
slips out now and then, But
the North lost ninety thousand troops in eighteen

1376
01:50:00.399 --> 01:50:05.079
sixty four just to North. So
see, it seems like the bloodiest year

1377
01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:10.439
of the Civil War. And that's
not even counting Gettysburg and Vicksbert the other

1378
01:50:10.479 --> 01:50:15.079
things you mentioned. So here's a
question, if if Sherman's victories on the

1379
01:50:15.159 --> 01:50:21.560
March to the Sea and the capturing
and burning of Atlanta was the big victory

1380
01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:28.439
that Lincoln and the Union forces needed
to wind up tilting the balance in this

1381
01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:35.199
Civil War, why was Grant so
lauded and why did Ulysses has Grant become

1382
01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:41.039
president and not Sherman If you're going
to give it to a victorious Union general.

1383
01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:45.720
Was Sherman just not political? Or
what was the deal with that that

1384
01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:47.800
I am not sure of. I
mean, I've read a lot of differing

1385
01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:51.800
accounts, enough so to make me
not have a discernible opinion. I think

1386
01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:59.000
sometimes generals just get certain territories.
But what Sherman had finally was a Union

1387
01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:02.640
commander who led him loose, who
led him loose. McClellan hadn't. And

1388
01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:06.800
as you know, Lincoln had had
a series of commanding generals who were fighting

1389
01:51:06.880 --> 01:51:12.760
with great hesitation. So here was
Grant allowing Sherman to do his business.

1390
01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:16.439
Losses, keep going, inflict pain
in flick, punishment, keep going.

1391
01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:20.199
And that march to the Sea was
fast. I mean he hands Savannah over

1392
01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:25.840
to Lincoln as a Christmas present.
Well, Lincoln had lost had lost a

1393
01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:30.399
son in the Civil War. I
mean, that's the other thing that I

1394
01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:35.840
think needs to be said about this. It wasn't just that the President saw

1395
01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:43.239
felt the loss and felt the grief
of all these people who were lost fighting

1396
01:51:43.359 --> 01:51:47.159
for the Union side, But he
also lost a son in battle. He

1397
01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:50.439
did, And I know that he
knows that the brothers are fighting brothers in

1398
01:51:50.479 --> 01:51:54.720
this war too. The guys who
had gone to West Point and were friends

1399
01:51:55.319 --> 01:51:59.520
were now killing each other. And
lee An honorable man, but ended up

1400
01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:01.920
citing with Virginia. It was his
home state, and he was tortured by

1401
01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:04.800
that choice. But I had to
choose, and he had to choose sides.

1402
01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:09.680
And he was fighting up and going
up against guys he'd gone to college

1403
01:52:09.800 --> 01:52:15.399
with at the nation's finest military preparations
school. This is an epic tragedy.

1404
01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:18.119
And Lincoln understood this. And you
know who understood this more than anybody.

1405
01:52:19.399 --> 01:52:23.960
Women understood this greater than anybody.
He was looking for his brothers. So

1406
01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:26.720
we did a beautiful story on this. He was searching for his brother.

1407
01:52:27.199 --> 01:52:30.359
His brother was on some battlefield where
he worried about the casualties. Women is

1408
01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:33.920
the most famous poet in America.
And he comes down to Washington, d

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01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:39.079
C. He's checking all the military
hospitals and he finds his brother. But

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01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:44.880
what he also discovers is these Union
soldiers and Confederate soldiers without legs, ready

1411
01:52:44.960 --> 01:52:49.000
to die. And his greatest service, Women was tending as a medic to

1412
01:52:49.119 --> 01:52:54.279
the needs of these guys, and
not just medic, spiritual needs prayer books.

1413
01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:59.039
And he would write these essays about
this, and it's Witmen's greatest work.

1414
01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:02.439
I believe it's not Leaves and Press. It's his memoir about serving as

1415
01:53:02.479 --> 01:53:06.720
a medic and some of the heartbreaking
things that he had to see, not

1416
01:53:06.960 --> 01:53:12.239
just the Union losses. These were
eighteen to thirty year old boys in the

1417
01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:17.239
Confederacy being butchered too, and it
broke his heart. And the writing and

1418
01:53:17.359 --> 01:53:23.079
what Whitman witnessed was carnage of the
very worst kind. So what Lincoln had

1419
01:53:23.119 --> 01:53:26.880
to deal with from the time he
started to the time he lookt to he

1420
01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:30.159
got martyred because of his position in
the war. He had one real happy

1421
01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:35.279
day in his presidency, and it
was the day he was murdered that strong

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01:53:35.880 --> 01:53:39.760
I did not know this. One
thing I love about talking to leh a

1423
01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:43.039
Bibe is that I always find out
things I did not know. And I

1424
01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:48.640
consider myself to be, you know, fairly, fairly adept at American history

1425
01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:54.399
because I just love it. You
know, it intrigues me and it trances

1426
01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:58.640
me, and I dive into it. But well, were we do interesting?

1427
01:53:58.800 --> 01:54:01.520
Like we we did a story of
Lincoln's last day. And Lincoln's last

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01:54:01.600 --> 01:54:06.920
day essentially was on Good Friday,
and that morning he had learned the Richmond

1429
01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:12.000
had fallen. Lee had surrendered the
night before Washington, d C. New

1430
01:54:12.119 --> 01:54:15.199
York, all the major northern cities
had a party that made V Day look

1431
01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:19.159
like nothing. Giant party. They
called it the Grand Illumination. In Washington,

1432
01:54:19.199 --> 01:54:21.960
d C. He gets up in
the morning on Good Friday and his

1433
01:54:23.079 --> 01:54:26.479
staff is dismissed. He sees his
son for the first time. His living

1434
01:54:26.600 --> 01:54:29.680
son, who was serving under a
general, General Grant, was there.

1435
01:54:29.880 --> 01:54:32.560
There was joe viality in the room. Lincoln did predict though they had a

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01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:35.600
bad dream, kind of dreamed that
every time he had it during the war,

1437
01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:40.600
something he said of consequence, of
great consequence happens. He goes out

1438
01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:43.760
for the carriage ride that day with
his wife. His wife writes in a

1439
01:54:43.880 --> 01:54:45.640
journal that day that it was the
first time she had seen her husband truly

1440
01:54:45.720 --> 01:54:49.119
happy. That he was talking about
the future, about returning to Springfield to

1441
01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:53.800
practice law one day and to one
day see the Pacific. That night,

1442
01:54:53.880 --> 01:54:57.399
they go to see American Cousin,
a comedy. As he walks into the

1443
01:54:57.479 --> 01:55:02.159
Ford Theater, everything stops jubilation.
Hail to the Chief has played standing ovation

1444
01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:05.640
for minutes, which went into minutes. Then the play goes on. It's

1445
01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:11.119
funny. Lincoln's into booth laughing out
comes John Wilkes booth, no mask,

1446
01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:14.640
no attempt to hide himself. Everyone
in the theater knew who he was.

1447
01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:19.359
He was the equivalent of bread Pitt
in theater. And he executes the president

1448
01:55:19.760 --> 01:55:24.920
and kills him on the spot,
jumps onto the stage, screams the salva's

1449
01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:29.439
of ngs to the audience and six
semper Tyrannus and gets on his horse,

1450
01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:33.119
thinking he's going off to his destiny
as a conquering hero. That he's killed

1451
01:55:33.199 --> 01:55:36.680
the tyrant. So even after the
war, the idea that it was over,

1452
01:55:38.159 --> 01:55:41.199
the idea that the war was over, well not in not in his

1453
01:55:41.439 --> 01:55:45.159
mind right, and not in a
lot of folks minds who still hated the

1454
01:55:45.239 --> 01:55:47.439
North, hated the price. And
if you want to talk about an economy

1455
01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:54.399
that was eviscerated, the South was
left just bankrupt, nothing left, nothing

1456
01:55:54.520 --> 01:55:57.520
left, so much burned at the
ground, many of the boys dead,

1457
01:55:57.600 --> 01:56:00.880
the slaves worthless. This was a
lot of wealth was tied up in the

1458
01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:04.880
slaves. The Southern. The Southern
life was over and had to be rebuilt

1459
01:56:04.960 --> 01:56:08.720
and recast, and by the way, the Northern, the Northern life had

1460
01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:11.560
to be recast and rebuilt as well. And so we you know, some

1461
01:56:11.680 --> 01:56:15.119
of our stories aren't peppy and happy
stories, but you walk away from them

1462
01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:18.960
going wow, this country's endured much, were resilient. Moreover, there were

1463
01:56:19.039 --> 01:56:24.720
remarkable people like Lincoln who really paid
the price. I mean, imagine,

1464
01:56:24.760 --> 01:56:28.560
he gets killed on Good Friday,
martyred, like some people who are Christians

1465
01:56:28.640 --> 01:56:31.399
believe Prist was martyred, and and
what a day to die, or what

1466
01:56:31.479 --> 01:56:34.560
a day to get executed. He
dies the next night in the in the

1467
01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:38.960
morning, but for all intents and
purposes, he dies on he dies on

1468
01:56:39.079 --> 01:56:44.920
Easter weekend. Uh wow. And
you talk about the devastation of the Southern,

1469
01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:49.479
of the Confederate economy, the Southern
economy, there's that great poignant line

1470
01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:54.159
in the night they drove Old Dixie
down and says, take what you need

1471
01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:57.640
and leave the rest. But they
should never have taken the very best.

1472
01:56:58.279 --> 01:57:02.039
And that's that's what the South was
left for in the aftermath. Nineteen sixty

1473
01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:06.279
eight is also pointed at as now
a pivotal year and maybe a year that

1474
01:57:06.479 --> 01:57:11.479
America may have been as divided as
it is now. And you're working on

1475
01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:15.640
nineteen sixty eight right now, Lee, right, indeed, because what a

1476
01:57:15.760 --> 01:57:18.439
year it was the Vietnam War.
The conscription numbers are going up, the

1477
01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:23.239
body counts going up. More and
more young Americans are facing the draft.

1478
01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:26.399
Right, so this was personal.
This is very different than from the Rivers

1479
01:57:26.439 --> 01:57:29.960
to the Sea crowd. Most colleges
there was no protests. There was maybe

1480
01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:33.199
a dozen colleges that had protesters,
but the average state university I live in

1481
01:57:33.239 --> 01:57:36.199
Oxford, Mississippi, home of all
miss there were like twenty kids out.

1482
01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:40.039
There were thirty thousand kids at our
campus. And I could tell you that

1483
01:57:40.239 --> 01:57:43.880
I got reports from all over the
country, you know, because this wasn't

1484
01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:46.199
personal. This is a bunch of
kids with you know, green air who

1485
01:57:46.279 --> 01:57:49.720
don't even understand what river and what
sea they're talking about exactly. And there

1486
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:54.840
are some good there are actually some
good cultural critics of Israel, and Israel's

1487
01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:57.920
allowed to be criticized, right,
Israel's not perfect, We're not criticized.

1488
01:57:58.039 --> 01:58:00.399
We're free speechers, me and you. But but in the Vietnam War was

1489
01:58:00.439 --> 01:58:02.920
personal. These kids didn't want to
go to the war. They thought it

1490
01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:06.239
was unjust. Answer that the civil
rights movement, I mean, the civil

1491
01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:11.600
rights movement was in full fledged segregation
is still alive, not just in the

1492
01:58:11.680 --> 01:58:14.800
South, but in the North.
The North was just segregated to the South.

1493
01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:16.880
There was just no laws. But
I know in New Jersey where I

1494
01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:19.840
grew up, Newark was all black. Jersey City was all black again.

1495
01:58:19.960 --> 01:58:23.560
It was all black, and the
whites lived in white neighborhoods. In the

1496
01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:26.720
black lived in black and there was
no law against black and whites living together.

1497
01:58:26.960 --> 01:58:30.000
But white people just refused to do
it. That's just as bad,

1498
01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:31.880
right, Who cares if there's a
laws or not. It was just as

1499
01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:38.520
racist. So we're trying to reconcile
our original sin of racism. We've got

1500
01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:42.279
Martin Luther King assassinated, and you've
got the Vietnam War as it under bay,

1501
01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:45.439
and it was chaos in the streets, and the young kids were already

1502
01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:48.920
marching for sexual rights and sexual revolution. The bill had just come out.

1503
01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:53.560
People were saying, don't trust anyone
over thirty. By the way, I

1504
01:58:53.560 --> 01:58:58.720
don't trust anyone under thirty. And
then cops are pigs, the soldiers are

1505
01:58:58.720 --> 01:59:01.399
bigs, were spitting on our holds
when they come home. It sounds familiar,

1506
01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:04.760
right, and it is familiar.
And then Chicago was the Convention,

1507
01:59:05.199 --> 01:59:10.079
the Democratic Convention. Can you believe
they're doing it. They're they're doing it

1508
01:59:10.199 --> 01:59:15.359
again, into it again in Chicago. The Democrat nationals, oh, geez,

1509
01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:18.239
you can't make it up. And
anyone who doesn't think there's not going

1510
01:59:18.319 --> 01:59:24.399
to be some kind of repeat of
the last one doesn't understand the hardcore activists

1511
01:59:24.439 --> 01:59:26.800
on the left. Then if you
remember, it was the Weather Underground,

1512
01:59:27.079 --> 01:59:30.239
now it's Antifa. Then it was
Black Black Panthers, now it's Black Lives

1513
01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:33.439
Matter. And they don't speak for
all black people or even most black people.

1514
01:59:33.520 --> 01:59:36.039
Any of these groups don't speak for
who they say they speak for.

1515
01:59:36.359 --> 01:59:40.800
They speak for themselves, and they're
a radical part of the left, and

1516
01:59:40.880 --> 01:59:44.720
they've co opted the Democrat Party.
Everybody thinks the Republican Party is in trouble,

1517
01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:46.680
are in a mess. No,
the Republican Party is pretty I think

1518
01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:50.279
pretty you know, on the same
page. Mostly most people might not like

1519
01:59:50.359 --> 01:59:54.640
it, but they're on the same
page. But the left, the traditional

1520
01:59:54.720 --> 01:59:58.439
blue dog Democrat, the Bill Clinton's
of that party, the Evan Buys,

1521
01:59:58.479 --> 02:00:01.000
the Harold Fords there, they don't
even know what Even Chuck Schumer, he's

1522
02:00:01.039 --> 02:00:05.199
like, what the heck happened to
our party? What happened the Democrat party.

1523
02:00:05.239 --> 02:00:08.760
Well, you know I have reckoning
in Chicago. There's going to be

1524
02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:12.119
a reckoning in Chicago. There is
a clear another clear line, And you

1525
02:00:12.199 --> 02:00:16.039
brought up the Weather Underground. Who's
a member of the Weather Underground, Bill

1526
02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:23.600
Ayres, who later became a noted
professor and is part of that that so

1527
02:00:23.880 --> 02:00:30.880
called academic elite that have been teaching
the radical policies and thought think, you

1528
02:00:30.960 --> 02:00:34.760
know, group think to these kids
now for the last forty years, fifty

1529
02:00:34.840 --> 02:00:40.039
years. So there is a clear, clear line pointing from nineteen sixty eight

1530
02:00:40.119 --> 02:00:43.760
to what we've got on college campuses
in twenty twenty four. League. Now

1531
02:00:43.840 --> 02:00:46.640
those kids seize the citadels of power
in the universities of the media, and

1532
02:00:46.760 --> 02:00:51.880
that the oppressed oppressor matrix has made
its way from a little fringe group in

1533
02:00:53.000 --> 02:00:55.880
the sixties, when I was in
college, the oppressed a presser matrix was

1534
02:00:56.000 --> 02:01:00.119
just starting to take hold. Friends, Fanan's work, read The Wretch to

1535
02:01:00.159 --> 02:01:02.680
the Earth. You need to read
no other book your audience, and Wretched

1536
02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:08.000
of the Earth to understand not traditional
Democrats. This is not the Democrat Party.

1537
02:01:08.439 --> 02:01:12.359
This is Marxism. It's retreaded Marxism. You have to an oppressed oppressor

1538
02:01:12.479 --> 02:01:17.479
matrix, using identity as the formulating
a thesis of the movement. Catch our

1539
02:01:17.479 --> 02:01:21.279
American stories. There's a podcast app
you can get. Lee Habib, thank

1540
02:01:21.319 --> 02:01:26.560
you so much for making my night. I appreciate it anytime, anytime,

1541
02:01:26.720 --> 02:01:30.319
you got it. And that closes
the nightcap. We'll be back with our

1542
02:01:30.399 --> 02:01:33.960
national anthem in just a moment.
When I close my eyes, I picture

1543
02:01:34.039 --> 02:01:38.720
him with long blonde hair waving in
the breeze as he rides a great white

1544
02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:42.600
stallion shirt. List me too.
Willie is here for you. His words

1545
02:01:42.640 --> 02:01:45.560
are magical, here to soothe your
fears. I don't know what I do

1546
02:01:45.720 --> 02:01:49.119
without his leadership, here to stand
strong like the great American that I am.

1547
02:01:49.239 --> 02:01:51.600
I'd love to go sweater shopping with
him. All you have to do

1548
02:01:53.000 --> 02:01:57.479
is listen to me, the great
American Bill Cunningham tomorrow at twelve noon on

1549
02:01:57.840 --> 02:02:05.319
seven hundred w L. I have
one thing every business needs most attention.

1550
02:02:05.640 --> 02:02:10.239
Think about it. We swipe and
including Lee Hubib, who you just heard,

1551
02:02:10.479 --> 02:02:16.239
Andy Furman, whatever, sid Roth. Very powerful, very impactful,

1552
02:02:16.479 --> 02:02:20.119
and I hope it touched you and
everybody else who was on the show tonight.

1553
02:02:20.199 --> 02:02:24.119
Great stuff. Will look forward to
the next Nightcap, which is one

1554
02:02:24.199 --> 02:02:27.640
week from tonight on Memorial Day evening, and it's a special edition of the

1555
02:02:27.720 --> 02:02:32.760
Nightcap called the Great American Road Trip. On the first official day of summer,

1556
02:02:33.279 --> 02:02:38.439
we are taking you on the road
as maybe you prepare to get on

1557
02:02:38.520 --> 02:02:43.239
the road yourselves. We close out
with our national anthem, the Star Spangled

1558
02:02:43.279 --> 02:02:44.560
Banner, to honor America.