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For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo
has been a female homebuilder with a passion

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for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack.

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With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family on

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a date with me. That's a
good note. It's goddemn weird. See.

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Stumpo Development is the only second generation
female construction company in the country.

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You're crazy, You're a wacko,
You're insane. I mean, it just

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doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha
welcome guests to explore the world of construction,

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real estate, development, design and
more. Unpredictable. Every time I

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think I know what you want,
you'd switch it out. But that's what

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makes your houses all your day.
Discuss anything that happens between the roof and

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the foundation. Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody.

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She can yell and you can scream, but when you get her alone,

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she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails.

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Welcome to Cindy Stuffo Toughest Nails on
WBZ News Radio ten thirty. Now.

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Guys, So when they made that
opening they've taken bits and piece of all

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the shows we've done to the years, and that's how all your voices around

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there got it. We're going to
create a new one cause we don't name.

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So you know how we have the
meetings in the office where we literally

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like crap on each other for like
two three hours and then we all leave

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friends. So it's kind of like
what we do once a year here.

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So we're gonna go. We could
actually start with clockson. Let me ask

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you this question, of course,
get on the mic, Mike, Get

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on the mic. Get on the
mic. Where are originally from? Talking

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to the mic, I'm from a
zoo. How long you've been this country?

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Three years? How long you've been
working with the Stumple Development more than

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twenty? Yes, so three years
after you came to this country, you

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came on board this company. How'd
you build up your company? Build my

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company a lot with your help?
Because you build a really good name.

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You understand these neighbors over here,
the people you work around over here understand

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and the and the and the and
the house you build over here something everybody,

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every single people wanted the same look
house because you have a good eyes

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and you bring that like from nothing. We got a meeting over there.

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We're going to do over here,
Clark said one of these I think it's

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too much. No, clok,
say want to like that? And the

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end the house is farming. So
basically, though, you built your business

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off of working with Cidney Stumple.
No, there's no together. I was

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out, you came out. So
let's get something clear right now. I've

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been there for thirty six years.
You've been out there for twenty three years.

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You came to work with Sea Stumple
twenty years ago. Then you ran

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all over the city and said I
do Cidney Stumble's work. I said,

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oh, you do Sidney Stumble's work. Then you got the door open field.

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Correct, that's true. Okay,
and we're still together all these years

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later. How many divorces you think
we probably could have had along the way.

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I have divorced every one of you
guys at some point. We've taken

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a break for a year and I
come back. We were separation for a

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break for for a year. Maybe
one house to it. She did to

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me too, because you know you're
not about that. Sometimes we because we

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build something really really strong together and
for that for that for that ships something

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like that, it becomes beautiful.
We create some good guys to you and

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good companies, and we create like
a good opportunity. And that's a good

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point about your studient since because you're
not closed the door for this all the

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contractor, you understand like like you
did with w as with with a lot

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of Padro, a lot of guys
around over here. You a door right

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on there. But you give a
chance to everyone. Yeah, okay,

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if you're too busy, I'm might
have gave them one chance and then gone.

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Because my loyalty is always wife.
No, no, here's my loyalty

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speaking the mic to who with me? Oh? Okay always. That's a

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long time in every single I've been
with you longer than I was married.

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You spoke about the job too,
you understand, and we agree on that

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like you read it right. That's
why we got just he is true.

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You understand, Okay, I am
well sure, I take that. But

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I can be nasty. You can
say it. Can I be nasty?

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You didn't have to agree with me. I tarn that, you know,

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Yeah, that would be you second
that. No, three, he left

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he left. Everybody knows Wait,
hold on, yeah, except you guys

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only get for eight hours to day. I get it for twenty four.

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Could be the worst, but you
still love each other. True, you

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have talking about bend down your six
five. Everybody knows that family could be

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the worst, but we still love
each other. So you're saying we're family.

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Are here? I would have to
say, yeah, I would.

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I would have to go. I'm
gonna ask you guys that you produce with

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us? Yes? Okay, So
here's my question. All the builders you

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work for, you've been an h
VC guy for thirty something years. What

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other builders you work with that you
can say runs their company like a family?

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No? None, Do we fight? We don't, but we fight

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like brother and sister. Yeah,
of course, and we start doing that,

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and funny, me and you will
fight an hour later. How's going

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great? Good? People? Might
people might think I'm bipolo. We all

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are. Maybe we all are,
but that is the truth. I don't

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think anybody else has a company that
has sustained over thirty five years, right,

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and we've most of us have been
together even the same. When you

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say thirty six again, I'm gonna
knock you through those records. Okay,

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I get older, you get older, yeah, well, we're gonna just

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cut a thirty five years. That's
it. I'm not aging anymore. But

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when you think about this, when
we go there and we look at a

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guy like Neil Johnson, he started
with me, he was the first guy

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with me as much to want to
kick his divorced him the most. Oh,

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I divorced him so many times,
and I go running back right,

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just how it is. But I've
treated this company like a family and no

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one can take that away from me. I might yell, I might scream,

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I might carry on, but sorry, if you guys just do all

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your jobs without me babysitting, I
need to get my boots off the ground.

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I don't want a Microman's jobs.
Maybe they're all a menopose with you.

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Oh, they're aging out with me
too. Okay, here's the next

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question. Who's tired? Oscar?
You're feeling it, honey, you're looking

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you're looking a little there, all
right, and you're how old, Oscar?

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Okay, that's the age you start
to feel it, John you're feeling

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it. I feel it, but
I feel it? But why I work

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out so I don't have to?
Yeah, so you work out, you

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feel better, much better, Okay, Wachie my favorite plumber, and I

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want to bust his head all the
time. Go ahead, feeling it?

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Is it good? Of course,
it's show. There's a show till eleven

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o'clock nowadays. Okay, can we
admit? Can we admit you're on your

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texts like this lately? Yes?
Yes? Why is that just because I'm

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on point? No? It was
because a month ago I said I'm done,

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I'm done. You say that every
week. I gonna say that a

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lot, but I there's gonna come
a point where I go, I'm done.

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I think you guys start to feel
that. In the less going on,

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you thought it meant it because you
saw other guys, new guys coming

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and going. Yep, okay,
I hired them. They were actors.

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Okay, I'm going to hire some
really big, good looking stuts to come

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on the job. Some hire some
jots. What are they gonna do?

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Absolutely nothing but look pretty right off? Okay, Muscles, he's gonna throw

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the guys right out. I'm gonna
bring Look as he's running away, he's

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like, I want no smoke.
Okay, okay, So let's talk about

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Mikey. I think Mikey gets a
the biggest reward out here, Mike.

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You started here how many years ago? Now? Two? Right now?

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Actually, Okay, when you came
on, you didn't know what a two

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by four was, a two by
six, a nail, a screw,

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a hammer, nothing, pretty much. That's pretty accurate. And how much

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have you learned enough to feel proud
of yourself? Yeah? I mean,

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obviously a lot of the people in
the room right now we just die just

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version. Yeah, a lot of
the people in the room are definitely the

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reason that I've learned a lot,
not just you, but you know,

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Posey Richie, Oscar Clarkson. I
never said you learned anything from me.

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I'm the worst teacher. No,
no, no, I learned a lot

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from you. I learned that everything
looks beautiful with Clarkson, even if it

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doesn't. No, but even though
that would be Clockson's remark, beautiful beautiful,

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Cindy, rip it down. It's
not all over again. But seriously,

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I think you've come a long way
in two years, and I think

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everybody needs to give you the adavoid
that. Okay, Okay, I gotta

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go to commercial break call That thought
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Village Bank and welcome back to Toughest
Nails on w BS. Who's Radio tent

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third And I'm Cindy. I'm here
with John, I'm here with osc I'm

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here with Richie. I'm here with
Mike. I'm here with Clarkson. I'm

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here with Sammy. I'm here with
Jason. I'm here with my handsome son

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Chanan. I'm here with Mark.
He's here in Shaw's here. I don't

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know where she went to. But
okay, so you've got everybody's name rate

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I know this is That was a
good moment. I must have some testas

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from going with my body right now. So, Mikey, I want to

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tell you on ear in public that
I'm very proud of you, even though

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I call you. What's the names
I call you? Some of them aren't

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fit for air, but stupid for
lack of better term. I don't even

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think he knows his real name on
the job site. Okay, how low?

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I think I made you cry one
time he left? Uh yeah,

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actually I think that might have happened, but it was more because of our

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argument. But you and I argue
every day. So okay, and what

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do I say? What's the biggest
thing I say to you one of yours

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and I want to put my hand
up. Don't want you. Just tell

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me to shut up. Don't talk. That's it, don't talk, Mike.

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Pat Jane has not learned to read
the len eyes. Yes, I

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have no No, I'm like this. The eyeballs are crossing before you get

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It's like, dude, dude,
Rael doesn't know those eyes. I know

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what's wrong with him. Everybody knows
those Chad, you did. Everybody's like

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what I just say? Okay,
that's that's that's Mike, Chad. Let

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me ask you a question. Yeah, we're going there. We all in

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this room love real estate? Could
we all say we love real estate?

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We love our jobs? Absolutely?
Yes, Okay, besides marrying a very

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wealthy woman of being born into generational
wealth, are you all happy where you

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are in your careers? Absolutely?
Yeah, Okay, I'd agree with that.

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Somebody asked me if I had to
do over, what would I do

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different? Not much of anything,
because we get to go out there,

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we get to scream left and then
we get to have fun. We do

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right and Yep. It's been a
tough three years. It has been product

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delays, COVID. We were all
working out the air. We were essential,

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and Mike you weren't even with the
company, but you have to help

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in Chad. You guys were figuring
all out if he was going back to

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Florida. I mean we were.
I mean, yeah, it's crazy,

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right, we're hiding cars in garages
so we can work. Work. Don't

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turn the lights on, don't I
think? I think I uber in one

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day, everybody, nohlight, hold
on the ball pain. We're shipping him

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in like in like trucks, dropping
the guys off, putting the back door

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and then letting them go out the
front door. Because that was you know,

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the new mirror she made it.
We weren't essential, but Brookline and

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reals fall Governor Baker's rules. But
of course her. But that's okay.

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I'll get my own pick, my
own bone to pick with that that holy

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regime over Newton. But anyways,
I was saying the Chad, Chad,

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we gotta try to convince Chad like
to learn to stay around. Yes,

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exactly. And I think that the
more he feels secure, what he learns.

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I think we as all men in
here except me. I could be

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partial, man, I don't know, Hey, hold on, I'm partial,

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man. Somebody said, that's me
in the way, oh shot did

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but way when you guys didn't know
the lingo, right, you didn't know

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the lingo of what you were doing. You had no confidence, right Richie?

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Yeah, when did the confidence gain
for you? Pull up the mic.

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When I got more knowledge and confidence
in my field? There you go,

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and prior to that, you want
the other way when you're not confident

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something. And that's why I try
to explain to Chad. When you take

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action, you learn more knowledge.
Then you take the knowledge and it turns

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into more action and before you know
it, action knowledge knowledge, action,

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action knowledge, you stop making lots
of money. Does everybody in this room,

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as a subcontractor or work for C. Stumpo make a great living?

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Yes? Yes, yes, okay. We come out of school, we

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have no debt, we owe nobody
money, a little bit of money here

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and there, and we make more
money than the average doctor, average lawyer,

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average accountant and a story. We
can still dictate our lives, do

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what we want. We know when
we have to be responsible, liable,

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dependable. We all have a lot
of stress on our back, but we

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can come and go and do what
we want when we want to do it,

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and we got the money to do
that. Am I correct? Most

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important thing about your business, you're
in control of your own time, exactly,

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exactly. No one can dictate your
time to you. You'll get so

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much time in life. It's all
unless I call. If I call or

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I text, everything stops. But
that's the idea that we got to implement

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the parents today is to push these
kids go into that mic I need to

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hear it asking bring it home as
go to trade schools. Absolutely get into

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the trades. Our community right now
is you know, having a big vote

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about redeveloping a trade school and you
know, can you resolve the torne up

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about it? Why do we have
to spend money on building trade schools because

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parents are idiots? Yeah, well, let me tell you what's going to

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happen to college the next time years. They're going to become obsolete. How's

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that? I gotta be honest.
I think high school shou just start te

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shirt and trade. They shouldeat.
They did chat. But here's the problem.

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Here's what schools aren't teachers. No
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that stuff. Back in the day, like wet n I always said,

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to make money is dissecting this frog
going to get me dead in my life

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because I failed, right because I
went to dissect the frog. Guess what,

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I'm fifteen years old. The line
of work I went into, I

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would never have to dissect the frog. I wasn't becoming a doctor or a

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scientist. What the heck that I
need to do that? It was stinking

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and smelly. The point is because
you figured out then you didn't want to

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do that. I did because I
knew back then I wasn't going to do

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anything with turtles and frogs and it
was so stupid. But you just said

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a chat. But we did have
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then they took it out, and
then I had to disagree with that.

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I think they should bring it back
absolutely. Half bring in is that if

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you went to a trade school when
I went to school, you weren't you

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know, you were the dummy.
I actually did. I went to trade

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school. So when we went down
that end of the school chat, you

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know, you called a grease monkey
because you're a mechanic. You were the

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dummy all he's going, you know, And there was that stigma. And

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here's the problem to this day,
if parents butt out if you see your

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kids or a tinker and they can
do things. No chat, I'm never

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budding out of your life. So
what okay, till tell me? Will

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you miss me if I go back
to the European Tour? No? But

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you No, I'd be so happy
you've been on the European Tour. But

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at the end of the day,
we have to live in today's world,

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the real world, and make a
living today, okay, And we can

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all have our dreams. And if
you decide to that, you want to

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go back, and you want to
take your invitational to the Live tour and

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go try that out in the intim
if you had worked englfed at the same

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time, you would have gained different
work ethics. We all need to work

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and have a purpose. When you
don't get up in the morning and have

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a purpose, Jason, you've dealt
with booze and your passed as a young

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kid, right, you know,
when there's no purpose, you're going to

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get yourself into a gym. Every
one of us as young kids did stupid

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things. Richie, Oh yeah,
why hey, because I was young and

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stupid. And what happens when you're
young and stupid, got nothing to do?

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In my case, I got depressed
and good well just didn't go the

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way I wanted it to, and
drink and partying in wasting time right time

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that you can never get back,
never get back. And if you had

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a joova, oh I had a
good everything different And you're only how old

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today? I just turned forty seven
the other day. So at forty seven

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you even would to do a joover? Okay, agreed? Yeah, clocks,

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and you feel like you've done everything
right out here all this time.

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The box is just beautiful. Clocks
is just beautiful, per but clocks.

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And here's the difference. We're all
Americans in this room. You came from

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the country Brazil. Yes, you
came here with work ethic. You came

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here and want to make a better
life for you, your wife and your

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children. Yes. When you look
at Americans, you and your wife,

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when you talk at home at night, you say lazy. They have all

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the opportunity. No, never,
you're a liar. No I have because

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American kids nowadays, they're lazy kids
coming out the way they act. Oh

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and Clarkson, honestly, I got
to get flowers. I have to give

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flowers to your son. I'm very
proud of your son, JP. He

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has worked his butt off and he
hustles. Tell you, but I had

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to get in a conversation another two
hours. I'm kno getting back in my

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life because the son doesn't recognize that
from his father that he is doing a

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great job. And the son and
the father side to put them together on

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the phone for two hours, two
hours, I'm never going to get back.

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Clarkson, you can't look at your
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You got to look at it as
a man growing into a businessman, which

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sometimes it's hard to do. But
let me tell you when Samantha crossed that

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line. Boom, so JP,
if you listen, I'm proud of you

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JP. Yeah, Chad absolutely absolutely. But at the end of the day,

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if we could all rally around Chad
to get him up, get him

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to the job in the morning,
even if we all just take a piece

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and say Chad this that boom boom
boom, shove all the work on him.

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He's out kill him. Okay.
Anyways, we're going to break I'm

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seeing's company. Listen to have his
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Welcome to Tumpes Nails on w B
Zenas right now ten thirty and I'm Sidney

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Stumpo and I'm here with my daughter
Samantha, my son Chad. I got

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John Oscar, Richie, Mikey Clarkson, Jason and Mark and I don't know

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what shower into again, guys,
let's talk. We're gonna talk on the

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third as we call this what's this
the third one segment segment? Okay,

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we're in segments. Oscar pull the
mic. You say I make you nervous

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in the very beginning being the newbie. Yeah, you can intimidate me a

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little bit because you're a very intelligent
woman that had visions that we all gotta

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going to the mic. The MIC's
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And it was a little bit.
It was a lot of a learning

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curve coming on boardstand it's the premium
quality that I've seen going into these homes.

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Was like I've never seen and work
with builders before, and and that

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took me back a little bit.
I was like, because you don't see

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that from other builders. A lot
a lot of builders are about the bottom

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line and you know, you know, let's face that the net profit at

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the end. And these guys kind
of like they they ve jobs to the

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point that where they can save,
they're gonna save. And I didn't see

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that with you. I see that
you're using all the top, top of

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the line products, all the top
of the line windows. Everything that's going

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in is like I'm like, wow, there's a ton of money being spent

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there, and it was very and
there is and there is. So then

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when we get a stupid things,
Yeah, that's that's a good point where

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he's being there because what are you
doing? That would be called the mic

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not Samitha's head. Oh everyone is
doing the same way, bringing our best

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to the jobsand you all think that
you bring your best every day of the

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job, even on Saturday, no
clot his work says he practices the Jewish

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holidays. The only guy I know
from Brazil that practiced the Jewish holidays.

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That's not Jewish. By the way. Okay, look, I always say

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to you guys, if one guy
falls down, we all fall down.

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That's it. Right. Like we're
moving back to Doug. Hate to tell

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you, Ray, but Doug will
be coming back on board, right,

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Yes, because I Doug is a
phenomenal painter. Yes, yes, yes,

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I have seen him O. Doug
and I needed a divorce for a

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bit. We had it. But
see now I have to respect as a

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painter. You know why, because
you don't know what you got until you

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don't have it anymore, right,
That's when you realize. So it took

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me, obviously to reach out to
him and say, well, he actually

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put a story up, which gave
me to go and make a comment and

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then call him on the phone and
say, okay, you ready to put

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this marriage back together. That's it. We've had three years apart from each

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other, barely two and a half
years. You guys must have a great

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prenup, and we had a good
prenup. But as much as he can

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get under my crazy skin and want
to kill him, not a better painter

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out there, not, just not. And he knows what you expect with

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that, which knows what I expect. So that's it. That's it.

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So you know, I could probably
interview another ten to fifteen painters. I

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don't want to. I'm going to
go back to the guy that I know

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that can put the quality work I
want out there. Jason. You and

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I we've been together since you're how
old you now? Fifty? You're fifty,

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he's fifty. I can't believe he's
only eighty as I was twenty five

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or twenty six games. And one
of my first description of you was from

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a woman you were building a house
for. She got recommended me. Yeah,

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you know, someone recommended a friend
recommended her to call me, and

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she said, you're gonna meet with
my builder tomorrow, but you gotta be

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careful. She's a man in a
woman's body. That's all I'm gonna say.

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That was the delivery. That was
the delivery. Twenty Yeah, that's

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what she told me. She said, she's a be careful. She's a

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man in a woman's body, so
hey, hold on. She literally said,

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I'm going to put you with my
builder, which is a spect house

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I was doing, and they hand
an allowance they could go anywhere they wanted,

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but be careful because she's like a
man and a woman's body. Correct

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exactly what she said to me,
and that's I still remember it to this

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day. That was my first explanation
of what I was running into. And

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then you met me. Yeah,
I met you at the house behind stamat

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okay, but then you met me, and what'd you say? You grilled

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me? Grilled? Oh yeah,
like you do you know what you're doing?

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Yeah? Like, yeah, you
grilled me to make sure I knew

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what I was doing. Okay,
that's about the extent that I remember,

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But other than that, it was
blur. No. So was I did

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you driveway going? Oh my god, she is a man in woman's body.

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No, ya, No, I
mean I grew up in a household

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of assertive women. So you just
came across to me as an assertive woman

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who, like, you know,
I was like, I was dealing with

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my mom? Is that twenty five
years ago? That's what I felt like?

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He said, twenty five years ago. Do you know how old I

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was twenty five years ago? Thirty
six or no, four, twenty five

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minus fifty eight. We're all in
the math equation of building. I remember

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he was little. He was like
this, Okay, I remember I even

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she was Yeah, I was thirty
three years old. Yeah I was okay,

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she had a lot of Yeah,
so thirty three. I don't even

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think I was a woman yet.
A you're a woman at thirty three back

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then, I don't know cha had
you always make a comment. You always

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have these comments out there in the
field. I don't know, like the

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don't tell me what to do.
I know what to do. Can everybody

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please tell Chad? We sometimes we've
been in the business how many years?

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Listen, I don't know everything,
but when I speak, you know,

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I'm telling you I know what I
know. Okay, because honestly, would

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you apologize for me the other day? Driving by a sight, remind me

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one of your neighbors. Oh,
there's the ferns. What was it?

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Waite? Say that again? You
said that was a fence that was going

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up in Gay Jean's house. That
was a fence. What was actually going

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up in the backyard? You remember? Was this recently? Yeah? My

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brain grapevine all that. Oh you
mean when they put the wood up.

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Yeah, that's a fence. The
other day. That was like eight nine

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months ago. Okay, and then
they got in trouble because they built your

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life. We don't have to listen, we don't have to get technical with

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it right now. Okay, you
said, yes it is, I said,

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I said the other day. My
other day is different. Okay,

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Okay, listen, I'm changing my
name out to how many times she says

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it. Listen, at the end
of the day, we all have I

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see Oscar's got kids in his business. Oscar again, you're how old?

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Okay? John, your son's getting
into your business and you're how old?

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And he's how old? Okay?
Which he's the latest he had the baby?

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How old is the baby now?
Three? Okay? I'm year behind.

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I mean clockson. Okay, how
old your son? Okay? So

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here is the rule how it's going
to go. We're eventually got about ten

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years. If we're lucky, then
we want to pass these companies down to

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what our kids. Right. So
the problem is is your kids are not

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going to make a living off my
kids if Chad doesn't throw it into fifth

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gear, because then Samiela's left all
by yourself out here. But Chad,

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we've we both women in my family. We've all taken votes that you are

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a man's man, and the guys
like you right or wrong? Can you

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speaking to the speaker I'm over here, you're definitely right. Yep. Well,

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I'll take my flowers from everyone I
like to work for good guys.

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Right, you're a gentleman out there. Listen, how I run is I'll

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give you three strikes. You mess
up out to that, I'm gonna pull

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the Cindy on you. Yeah yeah, but you'll hurt people. I don't

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hurt people. I just annihilate with
their mouth. But as I see the

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way this is going right. For
sure, Mikey wants to be part of

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this company, and Samantha and I
hope chat right. I hope so too.

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But at the end of the day, I'm going to make this very

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clear to everybody in the room.
Actually we're on radio, but we're kind

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of having a meeting like back in
the office. My feet and my boots

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need to be off the sites.
If you want me to set us up

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for work for the next five years, I gotta get off the job sites.

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I can't micro manage the job sites
anymore. That's it. Can't micro

408
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.160
anybody anymore. Or we're going to
run out of work eventually, and I'm

409
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.440
going to move to Florida and I'm
going to start to work down there,

410
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.440
and whoever wants to come down that
Florida can come down. But I don't

411
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.880
think you want to start now you
say that, oh yeah, we're going

412
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:25.559
in that direction. But we're gonna
still keep this company over and then you

413
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.680
told me no, no, no, No. That means I go back

414
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.440
to golf and still do this.
No, you could take off, go

415
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.240
to fall like mom does for two
months, we could still be I can't.

416
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:42.319
Oh yeah, I got to go
to break. Here. I'm City

417
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.480
Stumple and you're listening to the Crazy
Crew, the Stumpo Crew and w b

418
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.559
Z is Rare ten thirty and we
will be right back. Sponsored by new

419
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420
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Auto Body. I've just written it
all and welcome back to the Toughest Nails

421
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:27.079
on w b Zena's Radio ten thirty
and I'm here with everybody, Gomantha Child,

422
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.640
Okay, wow, you guys think
a bunch of like, I'll do

423
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.359
it all right. We're here with
j'are on, Oscar, Mike, Richie,

424
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:41.599
Sammy clockson, Jason and Chad.
Okay, now for the last segment,

425
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.000
right, because I'm always really crapping
on you guys. Chad, you

426
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.480
Getta's Digest version. No, I
need to go last. You need to

427
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.720
learn Reader's Digest version. Oh wait, you guys all to do that,

428
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.039
but you don't do that. Go
ahead, start with you, Sammy,

429
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:56.519
what's your problem with me? You
need to answer. When you tell me

430
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.799
you're going to answer somebody, you
have to respond to them. I am

431
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.039
into stock you until you respond.
But meanwhile, you brought tulips into me

432
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.160
tonight in the studio for stalking you. Yes, you do it? No?

433
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.559
No, because she torched me for
hours set me home last night,

434
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.079
would you do sam? She didn't
respond. Was going to oh yeah,

435
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.119
So it's we're working on We're working
on a major go ahead, go ahead,

436
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.559
optical migraine. Okay, she tortured
me. Okay, go ahead,

437
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.839
clocks. I was just gonna say, listen, at least Chad feels bad

438
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.799
about it when he tortures you.
I mean, at least Sammy feels bad

439
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:34.440
about it. Chad doesn't, I
know. Okay, So we haven't got

440
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:38.519
to him yet, factually needs to
work on his communication skills and wouldn't also,

441
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.039
we're working on it. It's on
me. You get you get a

442
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:49.400
minute to fry me? Go ahead, you got one shot? Oh yeah,

443
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.079
good, he needs more than a
minute. What about me that you

444
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:57.920
can't handle? Seemed like, get
off front of the mic? Can you

445
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.960
get on the micro? Thing to
say? I just to answer more the

446
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:07.240
text message. I have to answer
your texts more. No, because you

447
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:10.039
only text about money. You come
for money. It can be Monday and

448
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:20.599
Wednesday, Friday, Thursday, No, no Friday, clockwork right there right?

449
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:22.319
No, No, he's Monday,
Tuesday, Wednesdays. There. I

450
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:23.680
pulled up and the just the other
day. Go what are you doing here?

451
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.119
It's Monday. I come to say, Hi, I went f off.

452
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.480
Get out of my pocket while I'm
going to a meeting. I want

453
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:35.480
to know clock some one thing if
you could change about Cydney stumpo. Go

454
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.880
ahead, you got a genie in
the bottle. Change Yeah, one thing?

455
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:49.039
Nothing? Nothing really okay, Sure, I don't go there. We're

456
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.720
gonna get to you. Mikey.
You have one thing you can change after

457
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:54.880
being here two years, if you
want to make it another two years,

458
00:32:54.880 --> 00:33:04.359
be very careful loading question open,
let's go. There's really nothing to change.

459
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.240
You're just harsh and aggressive. But
besides, that's not going to change.

460
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:13.200
So I guess nothing to fear and
aggressive. Yeah, but you love

461
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.480
a lot. There's nothing. I
wouldn't change a thing because the good comes

462
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.119
with the bad. If I tell
you to stop being harsh and aggressive,

463
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.680
then you won't love me as much, so I just take Oh, so

464
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:27.000
I love it's just extremes like you. You're really harsh, really extreme,

465
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.640
but you love more than anyone else. So you're just you're on. You're

466
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.640
never in the middle. So on
the opening when Jason says from another from

467
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:38.160
another interview, we did back in
the day, pretty much when you when

468
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:43.160
she's not working, she's the greatest
person. Is that lose your words?

469
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:49.279
You're still you're cool while you're working. You just you're dealing. No one

470
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.319
does what they're supposed to do.
Thanks for Jesus. With Zammy. He

471
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.440
said, that's because she not her
son. I got to deal with her

472
00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:01.599
afterwards. Okay, so you can't. So do you sometimes get thank you?

473
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:06.200
John? You should be lucky,
Chap. Do you sometimes get insulted

474
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:14.039
when I talk condescending? Not anymore
like you should? So we didn't talk.

475
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.840
We do as adults. I've always
been consistent. I've always been consistent

476
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.639
with it. Hold on, you
know, you know I hold myself accountable,

477
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:29.280
right so my nephew, maybe a
couple of days later, whatever whatever

478
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.679
it takes, Mike, Pat Jane, even I've said words to you that

479
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:37.280
I resent regret, and I'm apologizing
for that right now on air. Okay,

480
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:38.719
on ear, I own it.
But let me tell you something.

481
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:43.599
There's no butts with this. When
I apologize, I apologize. All I'm

482
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:47.440
asking you guys to do is before
you ask me a question for the fifty

483
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:52.480
one thousand times, just think and
say, have I asked this question before

484
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:57.239
you answer is yes? Hold on, simmy. If the answer is yes,

485
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.960
don't ask me again. If I've
all already answer the question. We've

486
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.840
been around long enough together decades.
If you've got to answer the same question

487
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.639
after hundreds and hundreds of thousands of
square feet we've built together, well,

488
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.800
sometimes we have to because you change
your mind and think you said something,

489
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.159
but you didn't relay the information.
I was just about to say that you

490
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.800
change your mind fifty times a week. That's why we asked the same question.

491
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.360
You all remember both, and I
think that's the only problem I had

492
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:23.760
with there. Well, we had
a meeting. We had a meeting,

493
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.920
and Mike, unfortunate you weren't here, but it was meeting like almost close

494
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.119
to four to three and a half, right before COVID started, right as

495
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:34.039
COVID, right before COVID and I
had you all come to the office.

496
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:39.199
I said, whatever I say that
doesn't sound nice, Ignore it because it's

497
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:45.800
all hormone related. Now, it's
not hormone related. My patience bucket is

498
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.679
empty. There's no more patience in
the bucket. Okay, And don't tell

499
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.480
me none of you are feeling that
too, that your patience is going down

500
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.119
as you get older. I just
don't get how none of you get hurt

501
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.760
by now. If you want an
answer, and it's going to be dumb

502
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:01.920
quest, don't ask at seven am. You ask at eight pm. She's

503
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:07.159
a nicer person at a pm.
How do you not know this? I'm

504
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:15.719
sorry, I'm sorry always, Yes, I'm sorry you while working Gemini.

505
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.599
If I want a nice answer,
I text you at night. It's the

506
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:24.159
easiest way. How do you not
know this by now? Yeah? If

507
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:29.239
you if you text me at nighttime
or call me, which you know we

508
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:36.079
go lait at night sometimes. Yeah, what's the nine thirty? Right?

509
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.039
But I will give you this right
because you're not it's not the pressure cooker,

510
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:44.320
right. You're getting me all day
long while I'm under a pressure cooker.

511
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.480
And even if your answer is I
can't be there, just respond the

512
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:51.000
non response makes her want to eat
you alive. That's what you just say.

513
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.199
I know for a fact, Richie, if you want to change something,

514
00:36:53.320 --> 00:37:00.280
go ahead. You might want to
pick the mic up to your mouth

515
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.960
and your boobs are my problem with
this? Goes up? Hunh Yeah,

516
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.440
stop changing the master, bathrooms and
kitchens after I pipe them in. No,

517
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.840
make up your mind taking in an
easy way. No, he's right,

518
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:19.360
he's right. But that's what happens
when you're a design builder. Listen,

519
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.079
do you know what it costs me
to change the lumber? Of course,

520
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.719
but I don't care. I don't
care. I want those houses to

521
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.199
be perfect. To me, what
I say is perfect. I went to

522
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.480
Chad in Smith's house and perfect.
The door was not sented. Chad's like,

523
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.480
Mom, I don't think anybody's gonna
see it, really, Chad,

524
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.239
Somebody hold up a piece of tre
piece of metal. Do you see it

525
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:45.000
now? The minute you put the
trim on boom, you're gonna see the

526
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.519
door's not scented. Rip it out, take the rubber off the deck.

527
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:51.880
But it's gonna cost so much money. It is what it is. I

528
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.199
was in Florida when this house is
being framed. It was eleven inches,

529
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:58.840
but I will not accept more than
a quarter of an inch. I will

530
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:01.280
quarter of an inch. That's it. That's rule of thumb. And then

531
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:07.440
we have the window on the other
back of the oscar. Talking about Cindy,

532
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.840
I texted her last week and say
we're all done with the rough at

533
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.840
Botsford. And then I come in
Monday morning, I see the whole place

534
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:21.400
refrained. I'm like, what just
happened? Because she walked in the building

535
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.159
and she wanted to get rid of
all the softening. No, no,

536
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:29.639
the headers. Okay, I built
a modern house and his headers. Okay,

537
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:36.280
wait now hold on, uh we
did today. Oh so proud of

538
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.119
you guys on the wall. Let
me be better. Texting for a final

539
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.239
inspection tomorrow. If you want to
go to insulation clocks, if you want

540
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.840
to be insulat on Friday, somebody
text Bawn right now to get him get

541
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:53.000
a final tomorrow, get a rough
inspection so we can get oscar. You've

542
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:58.599
been with us the shortest time you
came in because why it was a lucky

543
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.800
moment of your life. I think
I was ready to retire exactly. So

544
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.599
Mike, let me, let me, let's bring us back. Mike Garbelle

545
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.599
was with me for thirty years.
Love him. But Mike came to me

546
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:13.400
and said, I'm ready to retire, Cindy, I'm taking on small jobs.

547
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.840
Ask a perfect timing, which she
didn't feel guilty calling you, putting

548
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.440
you with me, and it's for
magical the last seven houses we've done together

549
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:23.639
magical. Yeah. And he was
great, you know, trying to show

550
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.960
me the ropes and getting started with
you guys. But that's the way you

551
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.639
do it. It's called loyalty.
When he was ready to step out,

552
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.719
then he got he got replaced,
which was great. John. What do

553
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:36.679
you have to say real fast?
Because we go to chat, then we're

554
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.599
gonna have to go to break Uh. Basically, like you said, a

555
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.400
lot of times, you change things
a lot and I have to move doc

556
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:46.599
work, ripping out. That's about
it just changes. Oh your personality.

557
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.960
I know your personality. God,
I mean thirty five years. You know

558
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.199
you know what she says to me. I think it's like a marriage.

559
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:59.039
Is that I want to divorce?
Can I get one to you? Got

560
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.199
ten seconds? I want to say? Is just you know remember what you

561
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:05.360
say? That's all no other than
that you're a perfect person. I love

562
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:12.440
you more. You should record that. This is Sidney stuff. We listen

563
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.840
Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten
thirty, and I want that played,

564
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:30.559
replayed, overplayed, and I'll take
it, and I'll take a bonus to

565
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:36.960
take you. Please the backstead and
welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBC News

566
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.000
Radio ten thirty. There is a
reason I'm playing that song. The reason

567
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.599
is very clear. For all you
builders out there listening that spire and everything

568
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.400
I do. You reach out to
one more my guys, You reach out

569
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.000
to one more subcontractors or my vendors
and try to go behind my back and

570
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.519
steal my designs and steal my guys. I'm coming at you, buddy,

571
00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:00.679
okay, and I'm going to tell
you real fast. You got the last

572
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:01.920
call, right, We got the
last call we did, and you strain

573
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.639
that right out right. The loyalty
is to stumble. That's it. And

574
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.159
that was the email you wrote.
I worked a stumpo and his answer back

575
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:13.639
with is she owned everybody. No, I'm loyal and I expect it back

576
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.559
from every one of you guys.
That's when my only demand and command all

577
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:21.599
these years, So all you builders
stop doing it. Yourself and stay away

578
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.800
from my guys. You are listening
to Cindy Stumpo Toughest Nails WB's News Radio

579
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.920
ten thirty and have a great,
safe weekend.

