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If you're preparing to invest in lessons
and you're using equipment that is just not

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built for your swing, it's going
to take you that much longer in more

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of these sessions to achieve any type
of goal. Another part of that is

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what if I advance perfect, you're
supposed to advance. We want you to

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advance, right, So hey,
let's see what happens in the next couple

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of years, right, Because if
you're working and you have a family,

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there's only so much time that you
can dedicate to sharpening your game. When

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we're trying to become successful in golf, we're trying to bring the alarms down

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mentally. If we can just reduce
those alarms with the worrisome of I don't

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know if my clubs are right for
me, then get fit immediately so you

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can set yourself up for success.
Everybody wants to see success like that,

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and it's just not going to happen
if you're using equipment that's inferior for you.

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Launching our nineteenth year of new weekly
episodes, here's our newest Golf Smarter

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Ambassador who plays at the same course
where I got started. Stay tuned to

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hear how you can receive a free
gift for doing one of these. Hi,

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this is David Lamb from Santrafel,
California, and I play at McGinnis

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Park Golf Center in Santrafel. This
is Golf Smarter number nine twenty eight.

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Getting Fit for clubs benefits every golfer
at any level with Master Fitter JP.

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This is Golf Smarter sharing stories,
tips and insights from great golf minds to

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help you lower your score and raise
your golf IQ. Here's your host,

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Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf
Smarter Podcast JP. Hey Fred, how

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are you, sir? I'm doing
well. It's great to have you on

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the show. I'm fascinated to talk
to you because I like talking about club

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fitting. I actually do like it, not that I go through it often,

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but I do like talking about it. I think everybody needs to know.

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Awesome. I'm very fortunate and thankful
to be included in this today and

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let's dive into it all right.
Well, what makes your position unique in

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talking to a club fitter is that
you work for a company. You work

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for PXG doing their fittings, as
opposed to a club fitter who does custom

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clubs. You know, builds,
custom clubs or you know works it works

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in retail and has everything available to
them to find the right club for that

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person. You know, what they
feel most comfortable with, what looks best

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to them as they're standing over the
ball. But you have a product that

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you're selling, but you're fitting people
for it. Let's let's let's talk about

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I want to talk about the process
of getting fitted, but I also want

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to talk about the importance of getting
fitted. But let's start with the process

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of what it is to be fitted
by somebody who's working for a manufacturer.

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Yeah, you know, specifically with
PXG, part of the process is custom

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club fitting. So when you're getting
custom club fitting, you know, our

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job is to make sure our equipment
is tailored to you. It's a little

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different than maybe back in the early
two thousands and then even before that,

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where you know, you could go
to a local retail store specifically for golf

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or sportings goods, right, and
they had you know, you're set on

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the wall and you just pick it
up, purchase it, leave, and

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then you'd end up having to create
a golf swing to the golf clubs,

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which we do the opposite. We're
trying to build a golf club or custom

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fit a golf club for your swing. You know, and before we dive

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into that process, most consumers have
developed a golf swing just based on that

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they've either gotten hand me down golf
equipment or they've bought something simply off the

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rack that could potentially either be too
long, too heavy, to light,

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too stiff. So what they're going
to do is they're going to go to

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the range and they're going to try
and create a golf swing, and they're

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probably creating tons of flaws and it's
going to be really difficult. Continue to

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do that over the years, and
you're working yourself into a hole, probably

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creating a lot more frustration than enjoyable
time on the golf course. So with

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PXG, you know, our main
focus is to make sure that when you

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leave after you're fitting, you know
exactly why you got fit into, what

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the combination between shaft and head.
You have a bunch of data to back

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up any of the combinations we fit
you in. So when you're a customer

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that walks into one of our retail
locations or what we call hub locations that

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are kind of all over the country
where we can offer fittings on a daily

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basis, but strictly talking about our
retail stores. Predominantly most are three base

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stores. There are some two bays. They're all outfitted with track Man,

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which is incredible. It's those state
of the art technology. You're going to

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be able to unwind all your data
ranging from your club speed, your ball

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speed, your distance, your spin
rate, your land angle, your height.

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Well, let me interrupt you for
just a starting. I apologize,

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but you you're a young man in
my eyes because I only see dark hair,

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nothing gray. Yes, but but
have you been fitting since before track

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Man as well? No? Okay, so your experience so because I got

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to imagine that changed everything for fitters
one thousand percent. I mean, you

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know there's other great technology that's out
there, Foresight. You know, there's

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the cube that's out there as well, but with track Man, you know,

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it really made its its its name
through the PGA tour years ago,

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where you would see these individuals walking
up with a case and a handle and

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pull out this you know, six
by six orange box and it would sit

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behind you and then they take swings
and then you'd see them glance over at

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an iPad that just had all these
numbers. So for them what they're trying

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to do is they're trying to dial
in their distances. They're trying to understand

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what their spin rates are, and
that's something that we do too. But

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it's really important for us to provide
that data and back up why we're fitting

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you into, whether it's a stiff
shaft, regular flex shaft, different lengths,

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because we really want to find what's
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what we're fitting you in. The
other cool data is that you're being able

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to come in with your current equipment, so we're going to really measure your

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apples to apples. Right. If
anybody walks in without their equipment. In

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their mind they're hitting a seven iron
one hundred and sixty yards, but they

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don't have that seven iron, and
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with potentially our seven iron, it's
really hard to justify that today. Without

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your equipment, how can we really
know? How can you really be sure

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that you are hitting that distance?
So it's super important for any of our

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customers to bring their current gamers in. All of them bring the whole bag

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in, So let me walk you
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if you're Fred you're going to walk
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Philadelphia store, which is probably thirty
minutes west of Philadelphia and King of Prussia

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three based stores. So you're walking
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going to greet you at the door. Hey, Fred, welcome to p

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XU Philadelphia. I see you've got
a one o'clock fitting today for a full

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bag. Let me check you in
so we'll make sure that we properly check

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you in through our systems and at
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I'd greet you, introduce myself,
and most likely give you a tour

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of the store because PXG just isn't
built on equipment, right, We've got

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apparel, we've got merchandise, we've
got accessory. Yeah, we'll talk a

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lot more about later. Yeah,
and so you know, the process would

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from there, I'd walk you to
the bay and just simply ask you to

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either pull out a wedge or any
comfortable any club that you're comfortable you know,

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warming up in, and then after
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take out your seven iron. We
strictly just fit with seven irons, right,

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because we have a ton of shafts
to offer. But if you're thinking

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about a set of irons, whether
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gap wedge, seven irons the middle
of the road. So once we really

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narrow that down, it transcends to
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and wedges are just irons, wedges, irons, hybrids. Yeah. So

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as far as like the fitting with
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I mean it. You said how
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it also translate to the wedges.
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have wedges that we can fit you
in as well that you know, the

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component the head comes off during the
fitting and we can change you're talking about

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the main set, the four or
five through correct, You're you're you know

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the the fairway Yeah, clubs,
yep, yep. So the seven iron

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you're gonna hit, We're gonna ask
you to hit yours right somewhere between five

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to seven times because track Man has
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how many swings you've taken. So
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we're gonna look, I'm going to
ask you to come over to my

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monitor and we're going to look at
all the numbers. So the most important

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numbers that we like to identify is
how fast you swing in the club,

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your ball speed, your spin rate, your carry distance, your total distance,

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the apex or height, and then
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which degree is that golf all coming
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love looking at is called smash factor. Essentially, how you get smash factors

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divide the ball speed by the club
speed. So on track man a seven

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iron PGA Tour average is one point
three three. Essentially, it's the it's

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the efficient, it's the efficiency number. It's telling me where you're hitting it

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on the face. If we can
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three, and a lot of people
when they hear PGA Tour, you think

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I'm not on the PGA Tour.
I can't hit one point three three.

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You can, without without a doubt, you can attain one point three three

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and higher. So I mean typically
the highest you're going to get is one

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point four to one. Now the
key with that is it really unfolds if

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that customer has the right combination,
whether the shaft, the lyngle, the

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head, all of these factors will
weigh into creating more consistency of you achieving

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the golf ball meeting the center of
that club phase. Obviously, well,

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you know when you hit a solid, solid shot, it just feels different

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than you hit it off the tower
heel, right, You know that,

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and it sounds different and sounds different
and goes different. Right, So,

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once we have that data with your
current gamer, that'll give the master fitter

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at that time a lot more evidence
in their mind where they should start with

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shaft. So we have the capabilities
between steel and graphite, ranging from fifty

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grams in graph heights all the way
up to one hundred and thirty grams in

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steel. So in their mind they're
going to probably pick two to three different

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shafts as are based on your swing
speed, they're based on your swing speed,

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they're based on your shot pattern.
Two. So anybody that is a

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you know, left to right miss, you know, if if you're right

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handed, you know you're gonna want
some more weight in that head. You're

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gonna want some more flexibility in the
middle of that shaft. You're gonna find

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something that engineers for your that club
face to break down faster and release faster

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to minimize that shot left or right. If you're a right to left ball

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striker, you're gonna want something a
little bit more stout in the mid of

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that in the mid section of that
shaft all the way through uh to the

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bottom to essentially where it meets the
top of the iron head. So all

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of this weighs into the factor of
the master fitter who's highly experienced in what

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he does. The cool part with
us with PXG is that's all they have

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to know, right, They have
a wide variety of knowledge just based on

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one product, which is PXG.
Okay, now I'm gonna we're gonna take

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a time out right now, and
then we can come back. I want

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to go a little bit deeper into
the PXG product line as far as getting

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that fit. We'll do that with
JP, who is with PXG as a

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master fitter, and we'll be back
right after this. All right, JP,

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I'm really curious when we talk about
the variety, wide variety of shafts,

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and I'm assuming those are not just
PXG shafts. You have so many

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manufacturers, so many different type of
materials and weights, all those things,

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But what about the heads itself.
You're only using PXG heads, how many

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do you have to choose from?
And howney do you need to choose from?

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Frankly, if it's mostly the shaft, yeah, well, you know

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PXG doesn't manufacture shafts. We do
hold you know, certain manufacturers like KBS,

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Tree, Temper Project, Dex Aerotech, Acra, and there's a few

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others to add to that mix.
But when it comes to the head,

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you know, our core mission is
innovation, quality, performance with strictly p

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XG. So all of those three
characteristics will simply go into the technology that

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we provide in our heads. And
we're strictly talking about Irons right now.

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So currently, right now, our
flagship Iron is Gen six. We have

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two different options for Gen six.
We have the three eleven P or Player's

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Head, and then we have the
three eleven XP Extreme Performance. So between

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those two, depending on your handicap, depending on if you're looking for just

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all the distance, all the forgiveness
and the world, We're going to have

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all that information when we when we
ask you, you know, what is

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your handicap? Are you a ten? Have you lost distance in the past?

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Are you looking to get more distance
now? The biggest difference between the

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P and the XP right. So
the XP is is going to be a

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little bit more offset, it's going
to have a wider soul at the bottom.

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You're looking at probably anywhere from ten
to fifteen percent more material from that

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P head to that XP head.
So for somebody that is just needing all

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the forgiveness and all the distance to
basically maximize their potential at their golf game,

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they're going to fit better in that
XP head. Is that we're talking

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about a blade versus a cavity back
type of situation, not even anywhere near

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that. We're nowhere near blades right
now with with just the Gen six line.

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We do have our own line,
a separate line that's called three one

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seven that has more of that blade
muscle back cavity back in our tour models.

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So yeah, we have an opportunity
to separate, you know, depending

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on anybody's capability, whether you're a
highly experienced player, beginner, middle of

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the road. That's the beauty of
PXG. We want to provide the performance

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in our technology for all skill sets, not just better players, but everybody.

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And where at what point would you
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you know what you're ready for blades
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Your game, you know, you're
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is indicating that you'd probably be better
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yeah, do you It's it's really
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if you are a you know,
single scratch handicapped player, somebody that has

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a ton of control with their irons
that consistent yes, oh yeah, I

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mean listen, golf is very hard. Whether you are on the PGA Tour

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or you know your local member daily
nine hole hitting giggles, or if you're

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just playing with your buddies on the
weekend. Regardless of your capability with the

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game of golf, it's hard no
matter how good you are or you know,

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how much of beginner you are.
So the reality is is that no

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matter what, you should be providing
the most forgiveness possible. And that's the

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cool part with our Gen six irons
that we offer with the P and the

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XP. I mean, the P
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of the road, right, So
anybody that is trending from an eight to

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a fourteen handicap that really isn't needing
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They're gonna get more distance with our
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that forgiveness and still have a little
bit of workability, somebody that just needs

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overall forgiveness. They need to create
more consistency because the biggest thing with golf

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is confidence, Right, how fast
can you develop confidence? It's going to

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be really difficult if you're using equipment
that's inferior for you. So going back

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to that blades, now, if
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fourteen handicap and you want to play
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it. It's just going to take
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frustration because it's just a hard it's
a hard golf club to hit. In

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general, the games should be easier, the game should be more enjoyable.

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Let's put that product that's going to
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reasons, so that you can be
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you're going to find in the Gen
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we had a teacher recently saying golf's
a simple game. It's really hard to

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play, simply excellent, point simply
right, exactly, So I'm curious people

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who have swing analyzers are now,
you know, affordable for the average consumer.

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You can get anything from the rapsodo
and many other products that you can

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have a swing, you know,
get the swing an alice and get those

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numbers. Is for the average recreational
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means anything, but for the recreational
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doing at home and trying to figure
it out? Or is it just a

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bit too much information that will be
end up being a little more frustrating than

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helpful for you. I think I
think trying to figure it out on your

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own is going to be extremely difficult. Mm hm. You know, there's

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there's so much content out on there
on there on YouTube, it's easy to

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get down that rabbit hole, and
some things that teachers might preach might not

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it might not work for you.
And it kind of goes back to the

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beginning when you know you're buying equipment
that is potentially inferior because it's just not

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developed for your swing. It could
be the same situation when you're, I

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guess, trying to self assess your
swing based on what somebody is telling you

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from video. You know, the
best, the best opportunity that you have

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in golf, especially beginners, is
to get fit. It's the same I

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like the metaphor of if I'm going
to go buy a nice suit, I'm

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not just gonna buy it off the
rack and leave. I'm going to get

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a tailored to me. FREDI nice? What fred would you buy a suit

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off the rack and leave without it
getting too Yes, And then then I

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would go get a okay okay,
yeah, yeah, okay, So pretty

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simple to fit. So that's that's
the key with the fitting part, you

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know, And yeah, why not
start your golf career doesn't matter what age

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you are. Why not start your
golf career with equipment that's going to create

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faster confidence for you. And that's
the key of getting fit. Yeah.

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Well that's something that I hear a
lot from from beginners who I communicate with

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a lot. A lot of people
like, oh I discovered your podcast.

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It was like, I'm really curious, and not just beginners. People have

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been playing five, six, seven, eight, ten years to fifteen years.

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They're like, yeah, once I
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I'll go ahead and get fitted.
But right now I'm just going to play

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these clubs and it's like, I
wait, isn't that ass backwards? You

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know? I mean, shouldn't you? Because your swing is not going to

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change radically because your body is your
body, and your swing's not going to

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change radically one but as you fine
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and if you get consistently better,
then you can move up to a

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different type of club. But let's
address that concern that most people have that

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I've come across, that are I'll
get fitted later. Sure, yeah,

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I agree with you. It shouldn't
you should get fit now? Because here's

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the thing is, if you're preparing
to, if you're preparing to, if

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you're preparing to invest in lessons right, and you're using equipment that is just

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not built for your swing, it's
going to take you that much longer and

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more of these sessions to achieve any
type of goal. If I were building

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a house and I only had half
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chances are I can build a house, but it'll probably fall down at

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some point. So I want to
make sure that the tools I have to

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go get a lesson are equipped for
me. And another part of that is,

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well, what if I advance perfect, you're supposed to advance. We

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want you to advance, right,
So hey, let's see what happens in

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the next couple of years, right, because you know, if you're working,

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you know, and you have a
family, there's only so much time

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that you can dedicate to sharpening your
game. Well, let's let's expedite that

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process by getting you custom fit because
when you show up that whole part of

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your you know, the whole part
of are my clubs right for me?

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And I'm going to go get lessons, maybe five to ten lessons, and

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it's going to still be in the
back of your mind. When we're trying

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to become successful in golf. We're
trying to, you know, bring the

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alarms down mentally. You know,
golf will always be ninety percent mental and

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ten percent physical in my mind,
and so if we can just reduce those

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alarms with the worrisome of I don't
know if my clubs are right for me,

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then get get fit immediately so you
can set yourself up for success.

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Everybody wants to see success like that, and it's just not going to happen

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if you're using equipment that's inferior.
For you. And then the other concern

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I think that comes across to people
is A, I'm not ready to get

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fit because I'm not good enough wrong, And B you know, if I

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go get fit, I'm just paying
so much more for my clubs than if

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I were just to going to the
store and buy something that I kind of

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like the look of. Are those
myths, those arm myths, those arm

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myths, but they're but they're also
they're true, And that's a you know,

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that's part of the education process for
this whole you know, custom club

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fitting. You're seeing it rapidly grow, and part of that is to understand

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that golf is a game of it. It's an investment. Whether you're let's

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say you're not investing in golf equipment, but you're going to be investing in

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tea times and you're going to be
investing in greens, fees and carts and

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golf balls and gloves and hats and
shoes. There's an investment that goes towards

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everything in golf. So if you
really break down how many rounds of golf

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you're playing in a year to warrant
the spend, depending on how much you're

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looking to go in, you know
currently right now we're looking at roughly thirty

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five hundred for a full bag for
PXG Gen six. That's top to bottom,

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all fourteen clubs, chrome heads,
stock shafts, right. And if

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you really break that down to fifty
rounds a year, you know it comes

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out. I don't have the calculator
with me right now, but you know

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it. It warrants that type of
investment for fifty rounds in a year to

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enjoy the game that much more.
And it's not necessary for you to buy

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it every single year. But if
you get fittgal clubs for you, you

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got a good three to five year
stretch that you can use that same equipment

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because they're fit for you. Unless
your game completely changes and your swing completely

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changes, or you have surgery,
or you have any type of ailments that

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come up over those that course of
time, you know you want to go

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into that investment. If you can
stretch it out for that long, it's

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worth the investment. My eyes popped
out of my head because you said three

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to five years. Wait, so
these clubs I've been playing for like eight

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years, it's like they're expired.
Yes, I'll put the expiration data on

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it right now wow. Technology,
Well, my mind's blown. I got

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to go clean it up. We're
gonna take another break. We'll be right

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back. JP. This is all
well and good, but who are you?

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I mean, where's your credibility?
How did did you get to being

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a master club fitter for PXG?
What was your route? My route has

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always been involved with golf so ever
since I was three years old. My

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father's a PJ. Yeah. Oh, he was as a PG professional right

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around fifty years now. Still,
so I was born into the game of

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golf. I was born knowing that
daycare was the pro shop and learning how

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to cut greens, cut fairways,
change pin placements. At the age of

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ten, folding shirts, cleaning up
the shirts changing Oh yeah, oh really

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yeah, well you know, let's
not tell my mother this, but when

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I was ten, changing grips.
You know, we didn't have grip solvent

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back then, we had lighter fluid. So yeah, we will smell you

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smell like that today won't. So
you know, for me, golf is

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always kind of just there, and
it was it was a primary love for

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me. And just you know,
Dad's always been my mentor. He's always

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been someone I look up to.
He was fortunate enough to chase the champions

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Tour from two thousand to two thousand
and five. Yep, in my late

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teenage years, I had the ability
to caddy for him in a few events

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US Senior Rope and Pgacing Championship.
The most credible one, I'd say,

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is back in Massachusetts. So I'm
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used to have called the Bank Boston
Classic and it was hosted at Nashotah Country

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Club in Conquered, Massachusetts. So
Dad played not so great that first round,

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and I'm caddying for him. The
second round. He got paired with

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Gary Player and Ronold Palmer, and
that was my face for all eighteen holes.

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So yeah, jaw was popping out
of my head. I might misclubbed

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him the whole day because I was
just infatuated with you know, those two

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legends, and they couldn't have been
such better human beings to be around.

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And you know, mister Palmer asked
us to have lunch with them after.

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It's just so cool. So mister
Palmer, mister Gary and mister Palmer,

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yes, sir, yes, sir, and I need to now I need

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to break that one down. That's
fascinating to me. This is the kind

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of stories that I love to hear. So you're you're caddying in here.

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You are in the shadow of these
two legends. Are you picking their brains

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the whole time? Are you just
eavesdropping on everything they say? Are you

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talking to them? You're talking to
their caddies? What is that going on?

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That day? It was such a
blur. Fred I wouldn't be able

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to provide all of those answers,
but what I can tell you is,

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you know, I didn't want to. I didn't want to impose so much

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and just you know, be nagging
throughout that they're still trying to compete.

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I think Gary Player shot sixty nine
or sixty shot his age that day or

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something like that, sixty eight.
It was insane. I was. I

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was blown away, but yeah,
you know it was it was just wholesome.

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It was wholesome to be around those
two. And then and the likes

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of my father, who you know, he's in the New England PGA Hall

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of Fame. You know, he's
got a lot of credibility in the New

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England area. So in my mind, a local legend with these global icons.

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There was hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
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just it was an incredible thing and
I'll never forget it, and just you

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know, having that ability to be
surrounded around those two global icons was just

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it's incredible. Are there any nuggets
from that day that you remember of either

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mister Palmer or Gary Players saying to
you, It's like, hey, kid,

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let me tell you about this.
You'll never forget it, and you

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don't remember a thing. I love
that. Thank you. J Remember one

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thing, if you really want to
make this a career, you have to

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eat, sleep, and everything else
has to be pushed to the side for

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golf. Like everything in your life
gets pushed to the side. If you

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want to make the professional career,
you have to dedicate one hundred and fifty

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percent of everything you do on a
daily basis to golf. That was it.

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That was one of them. And
did that Did that encourage you or

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terrify you? Both? It was
motivation. But there's also a reason that

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I'm working for PXG. So I
did chase the professional career for nearly ten

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years right after I got out of
college, and you know, as various

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mini tours stayed opens, lots of
travel. You played in college. I

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went to Yukon University, Connecticut,
Go Husky, yep, and so I

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had I had five collegiate wins,
you know, and the confidence was really

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high to bring that into a professional
career and over you know, nine years,

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five months spending in Boston predominantly during
the summer seasons, and then seven

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months in the Florida in Florida,
so like West Palm, Palm Beach Gardens,

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Jupiter area, back and forth,
chasing the mini tours, you know,

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playing on the NGA, the National
Golfers Association Tour, which was formerly

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known as the Hooters Tour, which
is pretty much down the East Coast and

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over you know, I know how
they have like the Adams Tour, which

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is I think Texas and Arizona.
They've got a bunch of mini tours right

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all throughout the country. But yeah, lots of travel, lots of competition,

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and I had status the last two
years of my professional career on the

406
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,960
Mackenzie Tour, the Canadian Tour.
PGA had so much fun up there,

407
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,839
and yeah, it got to the
point where I was just burnt out.

408
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:51,880
I was totally burnt out, you
know, and that's when you start to

409
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,079
realize, oh wait, there is
no one hundred and fifty percent of anything.

410
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,400
I can barely give one hundred percent
and that's all I got without a

411
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,240
doubt, and I started to What
I started to fight was am I going

412
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,039
to continue to do this? Or
am I not? And if I continue

413
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,519
to do this and I hate it, am I ever going to play the

414
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:15,480
game of golf again? So that's
where I got scared, because you know,

415
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,640
Golf's always going to be important to
me in my life, whether I'm

416
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,759
a professional or not. And it's
a it's a passion, it's a hobby.

417
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:30,440
But I made the decision in twenty
sixteen to stop, and it took

418
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,440
me driving twelve hundred and fifteen,
twelve hundred and fifty miles from Boston to

419
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:37,720
Jupiter to make that decision. As
soon as I got out of the car,

420
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:40,720
it hit me like a ton of
bricks and I was like, Yeah,

421
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:42,519
I'm done. I'm done. Were
you debating back and forth a whole

422
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,839
way down or just like all of
a sudden you're like, what am I

423
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,119
doing? No, it wasn't a
debate that drive. The debate was the

424
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:52,519
whole year of twenty sixteen, and
it was more like, let me force

425
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,079
myself down there, and when I
get there, maybe just the sun,

426
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,440
you know, the hot weather,
getting on the golf course consistently because he

427
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:06,039
can't in Boston, you know,
the winter, Maybe that would strike some

428
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:08,640
more motivation for me to continue this. And it was the it was the

429
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:14,920
opposite. So at the time I
moved in with a gentleman that was working

430
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,519
for PXG in South Florida. He
was a fitter. He might have been

431
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,960
the fifth or sixth, you know, fitter in the country. Back in

432
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,160
twenty sixteen. It was just such
a young company and he mentioned to me,

433
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,680
said, you know, we're looking
for people in the New England market,

434
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,160
and I think you'd be a great
fit. So I said, well,

435
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,680
what do I have to lose,
you know, if I don't like

436
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:39,839
it, so be it. And
fast forward almost seven years now with PXG.

437
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,799
It'll be March twenty twenty four as
my seven year anniversary of the company.

438
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:52,240
I always thought my passion was playing
golf, but I really found when

439
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:57,240
I started working for PXG that my
passion was helping people play better golf.

440
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440
So that's where I dove into the
whole fitting operations. For about well,

441
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:04,720
yeah, you can have multiple passions, but what are you going to dedicate

442
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:09,200
your energy to, no doubt,
and you know, I think anybody has

443
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,720
this feeling at least once or twice
in their life where when you do something

444
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:16,440
really good, you know, you
get the goosebumps, the hair raises on

445
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,920
your arm, and you kind of
get that that surge of energy where it's

446
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,200
like, ah, I just love
what I just did and that was that

447
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:27,400
was so much fun. And I
would get that on a consistent basis when

448
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,880
I was helping fit a lot of
these you know customers back in the day,

449
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,599
and and when we're seeing results like
that, and for them, their

450
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,160
eyes are lighting up. You know, they're enthused, they're excited, they

451
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,720
can't wait to get their equipment to
go and bring it on the golf course

452
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:47,799
and really see what, you know, what it's all about. So you

453
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:52,160
know, it's a natural high.
Living off of that. I fully enjoy

454
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,680
it, you know. And I've
been a regional a regional manager now for

455
00:33:55,839 --> 00:34:00,440
you know, two three years and
still having the capability of jumping back in

456
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,119
the bay to fit a customer.
I mean, that's that's the foundation of

457
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:12,760
my passion. So it's a total
enjoyment. I have zero regrets. And

458
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,360
I also got my my amateur status
back in twenty twenty, so you can

459
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,960
still compete. Yeah. Yeah,
we uh a friend of mine, his

460
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,679
name is Joe Harney. We actually
qualified for the US four Ball a couple

461
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,239
months ago, which is actually being
hosted at the Philly Cricket Club in May

462
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,800
in twenty twenty four, right down
the street from where I am now so

463
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,440
excited about, you know, competing
in the US Amateur, playing in some

464
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,920
member guests. You can still play
in the US OAP and hey, listen,

465
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,719
I still have a shot at making
the Masters if I win the US

466
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,480
Amateur. Okay, I can still
dream. A guy can still dream.

467
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,039
Hey, we'll be rooting for you. Yeah. It's like there's JP So

468
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,440
I'm curious. You know, there's
there's certain foods we call comfort foods.

469
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,559
Right, There's things that just bring
you back to being at home and you

470
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:07,400
know Mom's taking care of you.
Whether it's a grilled cheese sandwich with a

471
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,280
bowlet tomato soup on a cold,
wet day, you know, it's it's

472
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,079
just things that bring you back.
I'm curious when you started doing the club

473
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:19,599
fitting for p XG and you were
being trained in there was that almost like

474
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:23,840
comfort food for you because it's like
I grew up around this. Yes,

475
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:29,360
it was very uncomfortable in the beginning
because I had no holue like you know,

476
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,639
being a professional and getting fit for
equipment and being on that other side.

477
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Right. So I'm on the other
side. I'm swinging the golf club.

478
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,320
There's there's a gentleman behind me that's
putting all these you know, shafts

479
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,239
and heads and li angles. And
the one thing I said to him,

480
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,320
I go, I don't care what
you're giving me, just give me the

481
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,239
right stuff, you know. And
I didn't. I didn't at that time

482
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,800
have the desire to want to learn
more about why are you giving me this?

483
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,119
And what are my numbers? And
you know, what's the reasoning behind

484
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:00,840
this when you were playing, when
you were playing and getting yeah okay,

485
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:05,840
And so once I started to learn
more about the fitting process, I was

486
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,519
I was like over them, I'm
like, this is a completely I'm not

487
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:14,159
used to this. You know,
this is a totally new endeavor, something

488
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,559
that I could really sink my teeth
in because you know, I found passion

489
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:24,519
in really helping people, but having
a incredible product to provide, and then

490
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:30,480
seeing somebody that is over the moon
with their combination, their distance, they're

491
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:36,079
tight dispersion. Now they're not missing
that way left to right shot off the

492
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:39,480
tee because I've been able to manipulate
some weight settings and put you in the

493
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:43,760
proper shaft that you need. And
you know, I still have people that

494
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,760
contact me from you know, customers
I fit six seven years ago and they're

495
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,639
asking, when new product comes out, can you fit me? Absolutely one

496
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,880
thousand percent. Wherever you are,
I will go find you and we'll get

497
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,239
you fit. So yeah, that
was so that was the passion that I

498
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:07,960
never thought I had. And boom, hurricane perfect. Oh that's so awesome.

499
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,679
All right, let's find out what's
happening on Golf Smarter Mulligans this week,

500
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,360
and then we're going to come back
and talk about PXG with JP after

501
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,119
this. As I've reported over the
last couple of weeks, I'm battling right

502
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,800
now with tennis elbow and a pinch
nerve and my neck and my back,

503
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:29,239
among other ailments. The demand I
take a break from golf and limit my

504
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,880
time producing new content at the computer. So with that, I've decided to

505
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,360
put Golf Smarter Mulligans on hiatus until
spring. I plan to continue creating new

506
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,559
content for Golf Smarter each week until
it's just too difficult, but hopefully that

507
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:51,239
won't be necessary. So Golf Smarter
Mulligans will return to kick off year number

508
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:57,760
six with ten consecutive weeks of our
annual Tony Manzoni Marathon, and this year

509
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:01,199
we'll be adding a new episode to
the mix, as I recently discovered a

510
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:07,599
conversation with Tony that hasn't been included
in previous years. So thank you very

511
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:13,519
much for your cooperation and patients.
As I and we I'll get a little

512
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:17,000
older each week, and here's to
a happy and healthy new year to you

513
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:23,880
and your family. You know,
I've always been a huge advocate since the

514
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:29,000
beginning of this show because I've talked
to multiple tom with Sean was on the

515
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:32,719
show and he's a legend in the
club fitting world, and he was on

516
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,360
the show multiple times and I learned
so much from him, and it was

517
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,159
always been an advocate of getting fitted
for clubs that it's like, you really

518
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:45,239
need to get fitted because blah blah
blah blah blah. As we've already talked

519
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,440
about the first time I had to
rent clubs on a golf trip because the

520
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,280
airline lost to my golf clubs.
I got my only hole in one with

521
00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:01,960
rented clubs. Like no, not, now, you know, after all

522
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:08,599
this advocation. And then there's been
a time, I'm gonna be honest here,

523
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,840
there's been a time that I went
to I was in Mexico and I

524
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,480
was playing at club that I was
gonna have to rent. I didn't bring

525
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,679
my clubs, and they said,
well, we have these callaways and we

526
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,880
have PXG's. I'm like, ah, perfect, I want to I've always

527
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,960
wanted to try the PXG's. Could
not hit them. Everything went hard right,

528
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,079
pulled out the callaways, shot seventy
eight right, It's like, okay,

529
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:37,960
PXG, I'm not so. And
then one other element of PXG in

530
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,440
my mind's history. I was at
the local golf shop, you know,

531
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,719
the worldwide golf shop here in the
area, and I'm friends with their club

532
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,679
fitter there. I've known them for
many years. I said, so,

533
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,119
what's to do with PXG? And
he goes, there's more PXG and are

534
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,639
used bin than any other club,
so you can figure out for yourself.

535
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,280
So with all that said, I
apologize for throwing you under the bus on

536
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,159
this one. P XG's been a
disruptor in the golf industry, right you

537
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:15,760
guys, kind of like the Marine
Corps. Your owner has kind of like

538
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,679
marched in and said, we're taking
over. We're going to do it our

539
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:25,320
way. What is it about p
XG that is unique? Everything? Everything?

540
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,599
Okay, so three under the bus
and then tossed to a softball.

541
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:34,079
All right, I'm glad you called
us the disruptor that is, that is

542
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:37,239
what we are. You know,
mister Parsons ten years ago came up with

543
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:44,480
a game plan to essentially hire the
two best engineers he could at the time.

544
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:49,519
And the equipment that he wanted was
because he wanted you know, he

545
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:52,400
wants a golf equipment that was going
to better his game. And so so

546
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,400
it was all about him. It
was at the beginning, it was all

547
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,760
about him, and rightfully so,
you know, I mean, he had

548
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,360
the ability to do what he needed, and so he hired the two engineers

549
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,599
from paying and after a year they
they were able to find you know,

550
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:14,280
forged metal. They mill out the
inside of the iron and at the time

551
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,920
they were able to put an elastomer
in there, which essentially was to create

552
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:24,679
higher distance, but tighter dispersion,
more forgiveness. We wanted to be able

553
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:32,039
to disrupt the industry with maximizing distance
but optimizing your dispersion. So from there

554
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:36,119
it went to mister Parsons hands.
He fell in love with them immediately.

555
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:39,760
There really wasn't any idea to grow
the brand to where I think it was

556
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,960
today immediately, but it went to
the tour, and then from the tour

557
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,440
it went to the public and then
it really boomed. And essentially it's because

558
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:57,039
we don't have any time constraints on
building our equipment. We don't have to

559
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:00,559
put out equipment every single year.
We want to put out equipment to make

560
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:05,360
sure that one it is going to
beat the competitors, but it's also going

561
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,679
to beat what we currently have.
We also, you know, we don't

562
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:14,760
have any constraints with you know,
funding. We have an unbelievable R and

563
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:22,880
d UH program that takes care of
creating you know, cutting edge technology and

564
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:29,079
the materials that we use in our
equipment is superior to be able to provide

565
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:34,960
anybody a more enjoyable golf game.
Because we're going to help you with maximizing

566
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,400
your forgiveness and also maximizing your distance, and that plays also into the whole

567
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,679
process of getting fit. Anybody has
the ability to purchase our equipment online and

568
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,719
it's an unbelievable configurator that you can
actually there's a series of questions you go

569
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,639
through and it'll put together, you
know, different types of shafts based on

570
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,880
the questions or the answers that you
provide, like what give me an example

571
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,880
if you I mean, like you
know how tall you are, your the

572
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,000
length of your arms, how how
far you currently hit your seven iron.

573
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:14,400
So it helps provide you know,
variables so that they can give you options

574
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,679
of different shafts in different heads and
it'll give you an actual, you know,

575
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,239
a full bag essentially of you know, a different shaft, the right

576
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,719
shaft, the right head, all
the way through the putter, and you

577
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,400
can purchase it online too. But
the key is you know, going and

578
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:36,760
actually seeing the results and seeing the
data and being able to justify any type

579
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,840
of purchase because you're seeing a significant
difference with your equipment compared to what we're

580
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,119
fitting you into. So that's the
key element is essentially, you know,

581
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:51,480
to get fit and having the ability
to have our own retail locations and have

582
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:55,360
our master fitters. You know,
we put them through a series of training

583
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,880
before they are ready to rock and
roll, and they're very well equipped with

584
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:05,280
track Man. They know our equipment
inside and out and the shafts that we

585
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:14,199
have to offer to essentially optimize any
of any skill set player to If you're

586
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,039
a scratch handicap player and you want
to you want to get a little bit

587
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:22,199
more distance, we have that for
you. If you are an average handicap

588
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,599
player and you're just looking to hit
more greens, we we can do that

589
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:31,119
for you without a doubt. It's
the key is to get fit properly and

590
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:37,079
test out the product. And essentially
now we're offering twenty five dollars fittings,

591
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:42,039
So what better time to find a
When you say now, define that,

592
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:46,519
I mean the thing about podcasts,
especially these evergreen content podcasts, is people

593
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:50,840
can be listening to this in five
years. So yeah, I mean,

594
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,360
you know our prices right now.
We're recording this just before Christmas of twenty

595
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,679
twenty three. So when you say
right now, yeah, twenty five dollars

596
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,800
for a f twenty five dollars fitting
fees right now, that that can go

597
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,159
towards the purchase. And when I
say right now, being that, you

598
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:12,039
know, PXG has the ability to
change and shift, whether it's pricing,

599
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,679
you know, in product anything,
you know, it's anything is subject to

600
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,719
change. But as of right now, in December eighteenth, twenty twenty three,

601
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,760
we are offering twenty five dollars fitting
fees, whether it's a full bag,

602
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:29,400
whether it's an Irons fitting. And
actually the twenty five dollars can go

603
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,480
towards the purchase if you purchase on
that day. Yeah, you mentioned that,

604
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:37,480
And so what would be the normal
cost of a fitting? Then there

605
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,400
isn't I wouldn't put it goes to
the purchase of your equipment. No,

606
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:47,079
there is with PXG. Yeah,
no, right now, it's that is

607
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:52,119
the normal twenty five. That is
our normal. Our normal changes and it

608
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,360
has the capability of changing. Right
but as of right now, it's twenty

609
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:01,280
five. But why you know,
there's a lot of other brands. I

610
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:06,599
don't know if they're advertising or as
aggressive in their advertising is p XG.

611
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:09,360
But there are a lot of other
brands that get a lot more play because

612
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,199
they're seen on the tour. Blah
blah blah about the you know, if

613
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,679
it's on the tour, then we
must go out and play that as well.

614
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:22,119
Tell me why p XG should stand
out to the consumer above the rest

615
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,559
of the big names. And I'm
not even going to name them. It's

616
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:29,000
everyone's got one in their head right
now. Yeah, No, No,

617
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:31,000
I mean, I think, I
think the extension of where we can offer

618
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,360
our equipment compared to anybody else.
You know, we're not in big box

619
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,400
stores. You know, we're not
in a lot of golf shops, you

620
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,159
know, because we want to own
our own customers. We want to know

621
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:50,119
our customers. It's really difficult for
any other manufacturer that is in big box

622
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:54,199
stores to know their customer and that's
really important for us. So we really

623
00:46:54,199 --> 00:47:00,719
pride ourselves on owning and knowing our
customers and all of their capabilities and needs.

624
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:05,920
And when p XG first got started, it was online. Was it

625
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,440
online only direct to consumer or has
it always been available on a retail basis?

626
00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:15,000
No. When we first started store, you know, the only ways

627
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:19,280
that you could purchase p XG and
we're talking you know, seven seven,

628
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:25,480
six, seven years ago, was
either a retail authorizer, which would have

629
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,119
been like a club champion at the
time, or a Truce Beeck. You

630
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:34,320
could have called our player support line
or you've had you would have had to

631
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,719
have contacted one of our mobile fitters
that was in a specific location. You

632
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:45,880
know, I started covering basically every
state in New England based out of you

633
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,400
know, Boston, Massachusetts. But
I had the ability to jump in a

634
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,400
van and have every single thing that
you can find in the store's and it's

635
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,199
in our vans as well, like
all the shafts, all the heads,

636
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:01,159
and I'm a mobile fitter driving around
the whole region, going where I was

637
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:07,159
needed. So that was the That
was the capabilities of of getting our equipment

638
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,480
back then, where it's a lot
different now. You know, we have

639
00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:15,000
retail locations, we have mobile locations. You know, if we have an

640
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:19,519
account with a local green Grass,
you know, a country club, we

641
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:24,960
are authorized to go to certain golf
courses and fit membership there online and you

642
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,760
can also call our one eight four
fourth playp x G. Well, we'll

643
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:38,599
let that one go. In hey
plan, you mentioned big box stores and

644
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:45,320
a fascinating story that seems to be
taking the world by storm, at least

645
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,719
here in the United States, as
costcop is now putting their own name they're

646
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,679
putting Kirkland and they just came out
with a driver last week and they have

647
00:48:52,800 --> 00:49:00,880
now irons and wedges and their own
balls that were disruptors. But again,

648
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:05,559
you're not getting fitted. You're getting
a great price for a product that you

649
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:09,039
really don't know where it came from. But knowing you know, the Kirkland

650
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:15,840
brand, they don't put their name
on crap. No, but still,

651
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:20,280
well, the beauty of Costco is
like you can play them for a year

652
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,199
and go yeah, it's not helping. You can return them, and the

653
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:30,360
beauty of Costco you can't do that
in most retail locations for golf. What

654
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,119
are your thoughts about a company like
Costco trying to be a disruptor and playing,

655
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,440
you know, low balling the price
and a you know, I'm not

656
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,360
going to say a mediocre or an
average product. We don't know, but

657
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:46,719
it's not tailored to the golfer.
No, it's not. I would hate

658
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:52,199
to put any type of price on
performance. I think performance is going to

659
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,559
outweigh price all day long in the
sense of if I'm am I paying for

660
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:01,559
what I'm getting out of it,
or is it just an attractive number to

661
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:06,840
get more people to buy it,
and I believe, if I'm not mistaken,

662
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:09,559
they're only offering one shaft in the
irons, and I think it's the

663
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:15,480
d G one fifteen, So that's
not going to cater to a lot of

664
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:21,480
consumers. It's a one hundred and
fifteen gram shaft. And you know,

665
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:25,000
we're seeing more people trend to the
graphight shaft because it's lighter and they can

666
00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:30,400
swing faster. I'll tell you what, it's a sharp looking iron. It

667
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:36,719
is sharp. It's sharp. But
I welcome any disruptor, come on in,

668
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:43,559
Come on in. I welcome all
all disruptors because that's what's you know,

669
00:50:43,639 --> 00:50:47,039
that's what makes this whole industry fun, you know, come on in.

670
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,079
And there was not a lot of
people that thought p XG would be

671
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:55,559
around even to this day. Yeah, yeah, and I don't know,

672
00:50:55,679 --> 00:51:00,840
it's a great logo, right,
and you guys are more than just I

673
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,960
mean, because I know that the
owner's wife does a lot of the fashion

674
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,360
and yep, so there's you know, cool, cool looking clothes and the

675
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:15,079
clubs are highly identifiable when someone's holding
one. Yeah, which is pretty awesome.

676
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:20,400
So uh, quick, quick,
just backstory when our first generation came

677
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,639
out, right, so everybody knows
PXG when the first generator, if you

678
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:27,840
know, PXG the first generation and
had all those individual tungsten weights on the

679
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,800
back and from when I remember,
that was just a prototype until mister Parsons

680
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,039
saw it and he said, that's
it. Leave it because it definitely sticks

681
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:43,559
out. And so, like you
said, it is identifiable, it's noticeable.

682
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,880
Chances are at least one person at
every golf course has something PXG in

683
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,000
their bag. And it's cool.
It's cool to see it's it's it's such

684
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:59,000
a cool evolution of our product and
our brand growing to where it is to

685
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,039
today. I mean, I think
I was number one ten or something like

686
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:07,280
that in the employee log when I
got hired, you know, and just

687
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,960
seeing how fast we've grown with our
retail stores and sky's the limit, you

688
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:20,079
know. And I think with a
sole owner and mister Parsons in his logics

689
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,039
of we want to be the disruptor
and I want to be the best and

690
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:28,000
I want to be number one,
we all share that same passion and that's

691
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,960
why we're here for the long haul. Well, they have to be very

692
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:38,800
proud, because you're clearly you're very
very proud, and you like the product

693
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,719
and it comes across well. And
I can see why they put me in

694
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:50,000
touch with you to let you do
the talking. This has been really entertaining,

695
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:55,400
really educational. I appreciate your passion
and your time and wish you a

696
00:52:55,599 --> 00:53:00,480
very happy new year. Thanks so
much for spending some time with us again.

697
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:05,519
PXG dot com can start there.
You can start there, for sure.

698
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:08,599
It's a good spot to start there, all right, Thanks buddy.

699
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:12,599
It really appreciated bred. Thank you
very much. I appreciate it too.

700
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:21,400
One of the big takeaways from that
conversation was Pj's point that clubs don't last

701
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,920
forever. And honestly, I've been
playing my irons for about seven to eight

702
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,320
years now, and you know,
getting about fifty rounds a year with those,

703
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,400
and in twenty twenty three, I
definitely was starting to notice that my

704
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:42,239
clubs were not achieving the distances or
accuracy that I had grown accustomed to in

705
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,440
prior years, and I just couldn't
figure it out, why is that happening.

706
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:50,760
I even went to my local retailer
where I was fit for these clubs

707
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,840
ping I was playing ping G clubs. I am playing ping G clubs and

708
00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:00,079
the same guy who fit me for
them, and he thought that it would

709
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:05,159
improve things for me if he just
added some weighted tape on a couple of

710
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:12,159
my irons. Still, I wasn't
really thrilled with the results. So to

711
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:16,400
hear that clubs have an expiration date
and I'm putting that in air quotes actually

712
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:22,159
explained a lot. So this spring
and hopefully sooner when I start playing regularly

713
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:27,760
again, I'm going to go to
my local PXG fitter with my camera and

714
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,519
a couple of microphones to get fitted
for the full PXG setup so that I

715
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:36,360
can share it with you, So
please stay tuned for that. If you

716
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good or bad, I'd really love to

717
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