This to two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. I think that's pretty fair
for a guy once a quarter, four times a year, trimantails. If
it needs to be done, it needs to be done. I'll think you
that you can go buy the calendar year. You probably wish I would because
I probably maybe really do it like twice a year. And Cole Holt Marnie
Winfield the people that really are drawn to twelve step program. One piece of
those twelve step groups is because it's people from all different varieties in lengths of
time of sobriety. It is the twenty ninth of April twenty twenty three from
Cory Winfield. An. I'm Marnie Winfield. Welcome to seventeen Recovery podcasts.
Let's just thinking there's a way for us to get donations and have fun at
the same time. Play little game. Yeah yeah. You can pick a
day on a calendar and if that's the day I clipped my tonails again,
you win the pot. Wow. Wow, a little raffle. It's a
good idea. Thank you, Thank you for knowing that. It's pretty good,
right, I just came up with that. Is there a way we
can make it so it's like has to be drawn four times a year.
That means you wish. Hey, I'm a month and a half into this,
because we're just about I almost there. I should get a chip every
month. I don't clip my toneails. It's self care, honey. It
was your birthday, March seventeenth was the last time I clipped them. Oh
my gosh, they're not bad. It's so scary that you know that information
well because I remembered it, because I knew it was I was on your
birthday. I would remember because I really want to know how many times a
year I do it. That doesn't mean you need to do it. Last
shout out to my friend Ron Robinson his Radio Days podcast because he said he
wears socks at night to protect his wife. So I don't do that.
I don't know if that's because he's funny, not as sweet as Ron,
or I don't know, not as thoughtful is Ron. Not sure. Maybe
it's a guy thing, and maybe it's just a Corey Ron thing. I
don't know. As far as I know, all guys don't care about their
tonails being clipped. Well you should, because Ron's the only person I think
I've ever talked to you about it, So he's the only man. But
I know, so all men that I know don't be clipping one time.
And I don't know, I shouldn't even talk about that. Well, I
kept ruining my socks because the tonail was poking through. Yeah, that took
me like three or four pairs, Like realize, oh that's why. Yeah,
because your shoes are not going to fit you anymore. It's really disturbing.
Anyway, how are you doing any day recovery? So war work on
that whole little bit thing. But I can't know that, Like whoever wants
to raffle in on this or get a piece of it? Um email Marning
because I can't know what day you pick. I don't know. Maybe that'll
be something that we'll do at the two seventeen Recovery Center. Maybe let's have
a calendar. I'm like, you want you want to end on this?
Man, I don't know, but yeah, the two seventeen Recovery Center though
it's coming along, there's gonna be some meetings starting not this coming week but
the following week. And people are like, oh, you're doing like an
A and A. It's like, nah, not really we're doing similar stuff,
I guess, but it's more of UM, I don't want to say
start your own meeting, but kind of like that. Yeah, I think
that kind of the platform that we're going to start with is just that their
twelve step groups and their peer lad and so um. Essentially lots of times
are going to be geared towards gratitudes, so not specific to AA or NAUM.
Obviously all those materials people can draw from that. You know, we
have that literature available too in the office, but it's not going to be
structured as one or the other. It's a little bit more kind of a
free free form yeah, which I think will be cool. And you can
join us on zoom too. We'll have all that stuff posted on our app
and the website yeah to seventeen recovery dot com. So look for that,
not like in a couple of days, but like the next one. You
can look for the stuff at that posted this week sometime, but let be
starting next week. It'll be pretty pretty fun, pretty interesting, and it'll
be nice to see guys starting something in women that they want to do.
Yeah, and we're gonna have a family meeting, a family support meeting every
other week and that kind of coincides with addiction stream of services and what they
do every other week, so like it'll be hitting every week pretty much.
Yeah. So I think that's really good and gives him another option. And
then we're gonna have a gamblers some group. Yeah, gambling addiction support group,
which I think is huge. And Marshall who his name is Mitchell,
That's all I was gonna say, OK, come on, honey, you
didn't even let me get it out there. There's much all right there,
but he's starting a spirit spirit of recovering there again, he didn't let me
finish it. I didn't even go nasty there. I wasn't even gonna do
anything sexual, just like you know. So he's starting, wasn't this spirit
of recovery And that's going to be on Saturdays at ten and yeah, like
I said, if you want to jump on zoom, you know, our
place isn't that huge and we're not trying to pack like fifty people into it,
right maybe like ten if that, so if you want to come,
I think, um Mitchell in his meeting, they have like seats that you
can like reserve or something working on that the details, but I know that's
like on zoom and stuff, so check that out. And then Adam still
working on the name of his I believe it was up and at him.
I really think it's cute. I like the name. And then it was
up and and but I don't know. It was all like it was an
AT symbol. Yeah, and then Adam something else and I don't know,
and then he did Sunday Morning Huddle or something. Okay, that's cute too.
Yeah, but he's working on the name, but that'll be Sunday Mornings,
which I think will be cool. Ice to love going to Sunday morning
meetings. Yeah, And I think the beauty of all of this is that
they're peer led and so it's really you know, the facilitator is there to
just make sure the meeting happens. And I think that the kind of piece
of having these groups is they're gonna just they're gonna flow how they flow.
I mean, there's going to be kind of an organic piece to it that
it's just going to be people are going to go there and it's a safe
place to talk about what's going on with you and you know, in your
recovery, if good stuff, bad stuff, you know, trials and tribulations,
you know, successes and celebrations, everything across the board, and really
kind of with an emphasis on that support port of and empowering environment. I
think it's really what we're going for, and I think it's gonna be great.
Yeah. I was thinking about this the other day because sometimes when we
because we are funded through grants, and you know, I was looking for
some and it's said in there that they would support an organization that is following
the proven methods for like meetings and stuff like that, and I started thinking,
like I was driving today, I was thinking about that, like proven,
like oh, AA's proven okay, and a's a proven okay. But
even when somebody was thinking, hey, arn't therapy when they were first thinking
that, you know, people are probably like, no, it's not proven.
I don't know. And the guy was like, I like to pet
horses that it really calls me down and it keeps me sober, and people
are probably experiential therapy. Yeah, but is it proven. Yeah, it's
an evidence based practice, you know. So that just means that there's been
studies done that people that attend these groups fill in the blank there success that
there is like one person that succeeds. No, it's measured. I mean
it's it's because it's not. It's just it's just data that's been That's why
there's all these journal articles all over the universe about what percent I don't ask
them, Probably the wrong person, maybe you do know, but what percent
will that have to be at to be a proven there's not. They do
it in different ways. They'll do studies where they'll say, you know,
either they're longitudinal where they have people that they follow for a certain amount of
times, where they know that these people did attend to let's say peer led
support group for whatever it is, and um that they gave him a survey
at the beginning, and then they gave them a survey at the end,
and then follow up. There's all different kinds of researches. So how do
I get people to research me? Then? Because I got an idea,
Oh, they don't have to research you. I mean pure support led recovery
groups, like support groups in general, are evidence based. So let's say
like if I we're okay, every time I was like, oh man,
I'm having a moment. I want to go drink, and then I just
went outside and threw a rock at somebody and I came back in. I
was like, I didn't drink. That's awesome. And I started a little
club and every time we get to urge or something, we run outside.
We started throwing rocks at people. I'm like, hey, man, I've
been sober for twenty years. It's proven. Okay, yeah, just give
me PULSI okay something Probably not no, I think so I'm probably going to
jail. I can't throw rocks at people. But you know what I'm saying,
like, I don't know. I guess that's something that we'll have to
figure out. Because I'm sure norm who's starting is what is that one of
the spiritualities search for Serenity? Yeah, it's close that group. I'm sure
he's gonna want that, like proven or is it already or you already said
the pure lad, Well, it's pure, it's pure. It's pure lead.
But it's uh that one in particular, it follows it's a he's using
a book that is available just on Amazon, and it started off I guess
essentially introduced and used maybe by alcoholics anonymous. And I'm just saying that because
it's in if you look onlines what it says Um, but that it's veered
off and it's been just used by different different populations or therapists even have given
it to clients or used an individual sessions or groups. Um. But yeah,
I mean it's I know a little bit about it. I don't know
a lot about it, but from what I understand, I mean, he
loves it and he thinks it's going to be a really good kind of um
programming kind of to use for that group. Yeah, or through the book,
it's gonna be great too. And if he loves it and yep,
he's into it, and then that's that's a huge plus. And then Rachel,
our very own Rachel Pee is going to be she's gonna be doing a
smart Recovery group and she went through the training for that and she absolutely loves
that pathway nice. So she's a certified trainer and trainer, she's certified facilitator.
So she's gonna be running that group. That's amazing. So we're at
all kinds of meetings that are going to happen. Those will be posted on
our website probably next week, No, it will be this this coming week,
coming week. Yes, so in our zoom idea will be on there.
The more the merrier, So yeah, join us, join us,
And especially for the family group, well, I guess for all of them,
but the family group I think will be interesting because the people that are
coming are from this area and they're kind of new to it, some of
them, and you know, they're just trying to find out like what do
we do? You know, my kids doing this or my my brother's doing
this or whatever, you know, and I think they're going to be you
know, okay, well when we went to California and we're like, well,
same stories, you know, like if they're so similar. And then
I remember jumping on when COVID is going on and I was like doing meetings
all over the world and same stories, and you're like, but that dude's
in Ireland. Yep, it works the same way. You know. That's
so crazy. I think that I'll kind of be that'll be the reaction to
some of the people in the family, Like if they're talking to somebody in
Colorado, you know, and they're like hey, or you know don in
Florida and they're like, what, like, you guys go through the same
stuff too, and they're like, oh my gosh. Yeah, Yeah,
it'll be very beneficial for everybody, I think. Yeah, so I'm pretty
excited. And that'll be on Mondays every other week. But like I said,
the schedule, check it out, come on come this coming week to
seventeen recovery dot com. Yeah. So we watched a movie tonight too.
We then and I want to review it, but first I want to hear
how are you doing. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I'm feeling
the end of the semester kind of relief a little bit. Okay, it's
not quite there yet, but yep. Going back to school for your masters
and just about finished. I'm almost on. I'm in the homestretch for sure.
Start on your doctor. No, not doing that kind of that's not
in my future. I have no desire to do it. I mean,
the thing is too is with that when I finally get my masters, there's
always things to learn, you know, there's always continuing education and workshops and
you know, conferences and and that part. That's part of the reason why
I pursued this is because I love what I'm learning and it makes sense to
me. So and it's it's kind of funny, and we're not funny,
but when you are doing your thing, and you're like da da da da
this and that, and I'm always like trying to go the way opposite of
anything that's even an answer. I'm always like, well what about that?
But how do you cover that? And what about bees? You just kind
of look at me and you just kind of let it go. But I'm
just like, well that doesn't make any sense, and you're just like look
at me, and then you're just like back into your stuff, and I'm
like, okay, I'll just shut up. She was just talking out loud.
She wasn't asking me, okay, which guys that I'll save you a
lot of arguments just saying, you know, just learn what. She's not
talking to you. She's talking out loud, but she's not really looking for
an answer. She doesn't want you to well, I'll save the day here,
honey. You mean when I'm writing things, when you're writing things,
or when you're talking, sometimes you just kind of talk out loud and I'm
like, well, oh yeah, go ahead and suggest and you're on to
the next. I'm like, well, then she wasn't wanting that, And
then I'm like, no, she doesn't. Oh my gosh, that's adorable.
I'm just you know, I just helped a lot of guys out actually
if they can. Ah. But see here's another piece though. You shouldn't
be I think you should be flattered because like you're my sounding board, yeah
you know, and I kind of, like, I don't know, bounced
ideas off of you or talk out loud about school and you listen so great.
I'm just saying, guys, and my idol Gordon Keith once said the
world will be a much better place if we took the advice that we give,
and I do, Guys, I'm telling you it'll just she's not looking
for you to save the day, just not in going you'll know when she
wants an answer. We're not saving the day, guys. I'm just saying,
well, that's good though that you're kind of moving forward to the graduation
and then you still got a little bit more to do. But that's good.
Yep, thanks are good. That is So. We watched a movie
tonight, yes, called Champions, Yes, with Woody Harrelson. I'm a
huge fan of his. I am too. And if you have peacock a
peacock but just the channel used to be NBC whatever streaming it's free yea,
So I had to watch it. I was pretty excited, so we watched
it. We started watching it, and it was not what I thought was
going to be. Calling off guard a little bit. I guess I should
have watched the trailer. But had Woody Harrelson in it, it was free.
Why not. He's the basketball coach and he gets kicked off this team,
a college team where he was the assistant coach, and then he gets
a drunk driving so he's made to do community service, and his community services
the option to do community service or go to prison for eighteen months, So
he chooses community service to coach this basketball team of what did they what does
the judge call it? Special Olympics called it? She called it Disability Adults
with the Community stir Community Center for Adults and Disabilities, something like that.
Anyway, that's what it was, and overall there was some funny moments.
We both laughed out loud a few times. It kind of felt like a
kid movie but kind of didn't. Yeah, it also has the woman from
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, the one who's married to the guy from that
show. But it was cute. I guess it was funny. It was
kind of what do you want to say heartwarming? Yeah it was a feel
good movie. Yeah, yeah, it really. It was cute. Um,
he was good in it. It was probably made during COVID. Well
yeah it was because so there's like, you know, it's got that feel
that it was made during COVID. I don't know what it is where it's
like the storyline's great, the that's great, Like the cast is great.
They're incorporating you know, these all these individuals you know with disabilities that are
hilarious and awesome and on point, but just the storyline sometimes didn't flow,
and like the the camera work was not that good sometimes, but overall good
movie. Yeah. It was like they should have had like what do you
Harrelson has his assistant? First coffee? What do you Harrelson has? Somebody
who dressed him? He had like five stand ins, He had his RV
driver, he had his RV assistant driver. And it says it in the
credits like Woody Harrelson's chef, what do you Harrelsons? Like everything was like
what do you Harrelson's this what? I'm like, Jesus Man, how about
See they spent so much money in just making Woody Harrelson happy. They forgot
to get somebody to edit the script, and wow, edit the film.
The thing is, if it wouldn't have been him, would you have watched
the movie? No, there you go. So they're like, she's like,
are we gonna do this? Come on in and just pitch dark outside,
and then boom they cut to the bedroom when it's middle of the daylight
and you're at his house, not hers, and you're like, wait what.
And when he goes to her house there's always snow on the ground and
you can like see their breath and it's like freezing cold, and there's like
an inch of snow every time. And then when he goes on the opposite
side of town or wherever it is, it's not her house. It's fall.
It's fall. Yeah, not even snow, none at all. Yeah.
And then one time they were at her house, I think it was
kind of at the end, and it was fall again, and you could
tell by the way that the sunlight comes it's more of a warm light as
a spring is more of a a whiter light. I'm just trust me on
that. And it was weird because I'm like, it's fall and you can
just tell it's fall and it's not spring, and yet it's supposed to be
ninety days past when they just started it, so like wait what and then
the snow again. It's like not just a little bit of snow, it's
like a bunch of snow. And would have made sense if it would have
like transparted throughout the movie, like went from it being fall to winter,
but it was like the opposite, and there's no holidays in there, so
you never really knew what season it was in. You're kind of in limbo
with this basketball season and there's like it's Iowa. Maybe you're just supposed to
know, yeah that it's just unpredictable. It's it definitely didn't do anything for
Iowa that makes me want to go to Iowa. Because you even asked me,
You're like, you want to go to Des Moines, Iowa, and
I said, no, right, no offense to people in Des Moines,
Iowa. I just don't ever want to go there. There's just not a
reason. I don't think there's not a reason to go a lot of places.
There's something cool there. I'm sure there is, Yeah, so enjoy
it just all to yourself. De Moine. It looks like they have a
really nice restaurant there. Yeah, one that they kept filming in. I've
told you it's COVID movie. Yeah, I don't know. But if you
can get past those little things and then, like you said, the shaky
camera, and I was like, well, yeah, I'm not gonna say
what I said, but because it's not important. But if you can get
past that that stuff, cute movie. Yes, cute movie for sure.
So I would give it a three out of five. I'm with you,
equal six out of ten. I'm with you. Enjoy that. If you
have peacock, it's free. Yeah, anything else, I yet nothing.
I'm just enjoying. I'm enjoying the weekend. And got to see some family
on Friday. Oh we got to see some familiar face from our history.
Oh yeah about that? Okay, yeah, you go ahead, are you?
Oh? I was just no. So we had my sister, who
is I don't see very often, was coming down into Michigan from Washington,
d C. And she was only going to be in town for a few
days. But my dad also lives downstate, just Corey's father in law,
and so we decided to We figured out that there was a ride that was
going to be down in that area, so we decided to make the trip
down there, and what's my dad? And we're able to our Stanford House
and which is a treatment program, and it was a beautiful home. Was
gorgeous home. I mean so much character, so much history. Really,
I can't even imagine being able to have the opportunity to go there. It
seemed really neat, and the staff was on point and amazing and very like
solution focused and person centered and like, you know, in tune with what
was going on. And the guy who runs it we both know from him
being a I don't remember you would know what his title was when he was
there and I was there, he had a couple of different titles. Yeah,
but he was. He worked to the place I went to the last
time I went to treatment, and he was like the HR assistant or something.
I think he started out as Andy. He had to like t take
notes from all the crazy stuff that I was telling him, because they had
a security guard there that said that everybody in room two seventeen better be careful
because he is our worst nightmare. And I was like, you know,
my nightmare is man. So I like filed the complaint and then they came
to talk to me about it, like okay, so what's what's going on?
Like, man, he said that he's my worst nightmare. And he's
like, you don't know about my nightmares. And I'll started talking about like
what happens when the electric goes off. My electric gets shut off? You
know, that's a nightmare. And then like I was like I could be
you know, I had one dream and it was a nightmare that I kidnapped
by a bunch of biker midgets and they like did things to me sexually in
a basement at some house I didn't know, and I don't want him to
do that to me. And like he's like writing all the stuff down,
and I mean and I just kept coming with it, you know, because
I was on I was. I was rolling with it that day and yeah,
so that's the guy. And then later he was like he didn't hire
me. It's gotta named Stephen did. But and then Stephen like a week
later, I was like, well, I'm not Chboshton wore, I'm taking
the Sloughter job. But I was like, dude, I like came here
because you were my boss, Like this stupid. And then he took over
that position, but you could tell he didn't really want it, and he
was like doing like three other positions, and it's like, what the hell
man is going on? And when it got to the point because that place
was like a joke and a really bad joke for people going there for treatment,
and I wouldn't recommend it. It's like a McDonald's of the treatment industry.
That's my opinion as a professional radio broadcaster and as a human being.
And it was work, it was it was messed with my sobriety. I
couldn't take it no more. And so I was like just gonna quit,
leave him behind dry and then Tyrone told me, no, I couldn't do
that because I committed to it. So I said, damn you, Tyrone.
Okay, I want my ninety day review. So I was like,
I want my ninety day review. I want I'm a ninety day review.
And then you know, Lance is the guy I was like, okay.
So he meets with me and we're going you know, and I'm like a
look man, and he's like, well, I think I said this is
this is messed with my sobriety and not working out, and he was like,
we're feeling the same way. I was like, cool, so you
you know, but I didn't hold against Lance, and I could tell he
hated that. He hated there too. Anybody that's serious about it hates working
there. So I didn't take it personal. I you know, I would
say I quit the right way, departed the right way, and I felt
good about myself. And then Lance later on because I wasn't holding grudges or
didn't take it personal, he didn't take it personal. We still kind of
had that little friendship there, and he was listening to the podcast still and
I knew he worked at Stanford House. And I interviewed Ray and she's like,
well, I'm not like but she's the owner of Sanford House. W
and her husband started it. And it was one of the best interviews I've
ever had. And I don't even know it went maybe an hour and a
half. We were just talking. You can look for that if you have
the app, you can go back and listen to that podcast and the special
guests or whatever. But it was it was really fun and like just to
know that just by keeping it professional an adult like that was the only reason
why I kind of got her on the podcast. So that was cool and
there, Um, we had to go down there and get somebody. So
we said what's up and he showed us around and it was really really cool.
Yeah, it was neat and coming full circle that. Yeah. Like
however, many four years ago from him writing down like if, like if
you would have like popped in in that in that moment and like time out
and just froze it like the movie Click. Just possibly look, Lance,
you're gonna be talking with this dude. This dude that's talking about all this
crazy stuff is his worst nightmare. Like he's gonna be kind of doing some
pretty cool stuff and recovery. But just hear him out, but just trust
me, Like he would have been like, whoa, whoa this guy?
Yeah, like what are you talking about? How? Yeah sounds pretty funny.
You're like, I guess man, No, it is funny, it's
I think it's just really cool. It was just like kind of surreal.
It was funny because he remembered my roommate and former co host of this podcast,
Rob. He was like yeah, and Rob was freaking out, Like
I was like, yeah, we made our impact, I guess, or
we made our impression on him. That's how we got known as those two
seventeen guys though, like people knew, ah fun recovery man, fun,
recovery fun and recovery gotta have it so cool. Um, yeah that happened,
so that it is nice to see people from early back in the day
recovery and you know, and just like I see I like seeing people grow.
You know, Jacob Sparks, who was I think gonna do rapping tonight?
There's an a talent show and I told him I was going to go,
but then I really wasn't feeling well and I was like, man,
last time I went to one of those ended up with COVID, and what
if I give us COVID to people? What if I have it? And
so I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna go to that, but
just to see where he came from, you know, and he just got
us three years. So big props to Sparky there. That's awesome and hopefully
he's tearing it up tonight. But you know, it's it is nice to
see people like that kind of come up and where they were at and where
they're at now. So I'm sure Lance kind of sees that with us and
it's like, oh, that's really cool. Yeah, sure, all right,
everybody, have a great night. That's gonna do it? All right?
Well, yeah to seventeen recovery dot com. Check that out and then
look for the tone no challenge. Maybe soon we'll keep you posted. Well,
if I can figure out to wait and have you do it more often,
that I'll figure something out. For sure, we'll toxically. Okay,
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