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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
a new episode of You're Wrong with David

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Harsani and Molly Hemingway. Molly,
how's it going. It's going great.

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I tried to lift my voice a
little higher, pretend that that's how I

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speak in real life, when I'm
pretty monotone in my delivery. Anyway,

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I had a split second decision,
like do I mention that I got three

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hours of sleep last night, that
I'm exhausted, that in fact, you

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know I'm not operating at one hundred
percent, or do I just say everything's

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great. Your eighty percent is like
every normal person's Hunter Forscentum. We talk

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about sleep a lot on this podcast
about the lack of sleep. I slept

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actually pretty well, so I'm good. I'm still operating at eighty percent.

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So anyway, this week, the
big story, or one of the big

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stories was and listen, I said, I don't really know anything. You

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know what happened, and I don't
dive into these things, but Tucker Carlson

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being fired or leaving or let go
or whatever happened from Fox complete shock to

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me. I'm a big fan of
his, even though I disagree with a

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lot of his recent populous turn.
I just think he is a super talented

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guy. I know he's going to
do something incredible. I know him for

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a pretty long time. I'm not, you know, friends with him,

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like we don't hang out, but
I do know him, and he blurred

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my first book back in like two
thousand and eight. I used to be

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a massive fan of his writing at
Talk magazine and other places, and I

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just think he's a talented, interesting
guy and he's going to do fine.

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Yeah. Well, I don't really
know anything about the Departure despite being a

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contributor there, but I am a
huge fan of Tuckers and pretty much across

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the board. Like his magazine writing
is some of the best magazine article writing

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that you will ever find. And
he's kind of good at everything he does,

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which is very frustrating to seem to
observe. You know. His TV

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show has been just fascinating to watch, and like you it's not like I

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agree with everything that's on there,
or even about everything about the approach,

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but just so much fun to watch
and so much to learn and being introduced

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to so many interesting thinkers. You
know, a lot of what happens in

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the media is just kind of like
the same stuff, and it's been it's

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been fun to be introduced, you
know, whether in his digital or TV

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platforms to new things. There's something
else I was going to say. Oh,

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and he's also just like an incredibly
nice guy, which you're alluding to,

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but yeah, I mean every interaction
I've had with him, he's been

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so generous. Obviously, he's a
big name, and he doesn't need to

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spend his time, you know,
helping me or dealing with me, and

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the way he doesn't he does.
He's generous with his time and he's a

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good He's a good man, which
you would never know from the sort of

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you know, vitriolic, sort of
nasty way that some people portray him.

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But he's not like that in real
life at all. He's a really nice

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guy. At least in my interactions
he has been. Yeah, he's and

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not just a good man with people
that are not his closest friends and family,

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but a really good family man.
And that's one of the things I've

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been disappointed by in Washington, DC
as you meet all these people and they

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might even be public talkers about family
values, and they're not living their lives

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in a way that is honorable.
Tucker Tucker lives his life in a very

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honorable way. I mean he would
he would tell you he's a big sinner

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or something like that. But he's
happily married. He's a very good father.

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He's a very attentive husband and father, and I respect that more than

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you know, any political posture or
anything else. So it's really yeah,

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sorry, he's really easy to talk
to, right you're interrupting you last thing.

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I'll say that like us who are
not easy to talk to. Apparently.

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No, Actually, you remind you
remind at least the way I interact

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with you reminds you of how easy
because it was. I remember first meeting

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you, and right away we were
we could talk right right away. It

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was easy for us to have a
conversation. Was it because I was like,

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oh my gosh, I'm your biggest
fan and I've read everything you've written,

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and You're like, I can talk
to this lady. She's okay,

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this is my kind of person.
I remember, do you remember where we

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first met? It was around the
corner from the Heritage Foundation at that coffee

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shop. Really, I don't I
have a bad memory. Yeah no,

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But anyway, I don't want to
go down memory lane. But I will

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say that. You know, I'm
just gonna say that Tucker had me to

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do, you know, doing one
of those hour interviews he did on Fox

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Nation my book You're a Trash,
and it was maybe the best interview I

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had for the It was the best
interview. It was just so easy and

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effortless to talk to him about it. And you know, it's funny about

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him. When I did an interview
on his show years ago from my gun

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book, I thought it was going
to be one of these like softball interviews,

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and right away he was asking me
tough questions. But if you have

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a book, you want those questions. It's you like, want to push

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back, you want to make your
argument, and he, uh, let

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me do that. And you know, I was appreciative anyway, that's all.

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Sorry to interrupt you. That's it. That's it. Let's move on.

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But to talk about oh wait,
I want to say one of the

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had the privilege and honor of

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attending the Heritage Foundation's fiftieth anniversary gala
in Washington, DC on Friday of last

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week, and I got to know
I was there earlier in the day because

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I was moderating a panel discussion that
was really The panelists were very interesting.

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We were immediately followed by Ron DeSantis, who gave one of the best policy

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speeches I've ever listened to, you
particularly in substance and just a track record

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of accomplishment that was really cool.
And then that evening there was this huge

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gala like Dirk's Bentley was playing there
twenty five hundred people, and Tucker Carlson

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gave the keynote, and I would
highly encourage everyone to listen to his speech,

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which I've now listened to three times, once in person and twice on

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a rewatch. And he did it
with no notes, and it's not political.

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It's really about good versus evil and
the importance of love. And it

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was great and it was a real
experience to be there. The room was

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just electrified by the whole evening and
his speech really being a culmination of that.

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And it was also about like the
importance of bravery and courage and speaking

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the truth even when there are tough
consequences for that, and I have found

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it very inspirational and everyone, almost
everyone I've talked to who was there has

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said likewise. And you know,
people who've been watching and listening, I

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saw the YouTube link had been watched
like more than a million times, so

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clearly it's resonating with others. I
would just say again, if you haven't

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watched it, or even if you
have watched it, again noted and I

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have not watched it. Okay,
so let's move on. I wanted to

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talk if you're cool with that,
a effort, an effort that's going on

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on the left. I think it's
been going on a long time, and

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you actually wrote a book about it, about the delegitimization of the Supreme Court,

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the attacks on the personal, attacks
on justices who to some extent or

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the other, but in general uphold
the Constitution, which is to say,

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limit the power of the state.
And that is what I think at least

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that progressives and leftists are most upset
about when it comes to the Supreme Court.

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So in this effort to delegitimize,
usually it's done on the front end.

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You know, happened with Clarence Thomas, and I certainly happened with Brett

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Kavanaugh. And now they've come up
with a new thing, which is to

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delegitimize people on the court by creating
these stories and perceptions that they're unethical people

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on the court, that they're making
money off decisions, that they have conflicts

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of interest. And I'm talking about
Clarence Thomas and now Neil Gorsuch. So

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the Pro public A piece on Clarence
Thomas, I think we talked about it

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a few weeks ago, made it
seem like he basically was taking bribes from

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Harlan Crow, this big donor.
And now there's a new story in Politico

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and I can't pronounce her name written
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her last name? Chris Bola Risola, who I think I can't really even

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call her a journalist. I mean, she's so obviously transparently partisan. She

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was part of the Kavanaugh smears that
she spread. But she was also part

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of the hydroxy chlora queen thing during
COVID where she made it seem like it

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was rice in or something and had
that story about the person the woman and

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her husband who drank the stuff that
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I don't remember want to go into
it. But anyway, this new

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story Gorsa, she says it's so
convoluted. But let's just say that there's

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a form that these Supreme Court justices
fill out that lists all their income,

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so stocks, sales, And there
was a sale of a house that such

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co owned. He owned twenty percent
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in the disclosure form on you know
who he sold it to. And it

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happened to be this big lawyer in
Colorado, was a CEO with this big

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law firm that's involved in cases.
So I dug into every single Supreme Court

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disclosure form and on the column where
it says who you sold your stuff too,

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literally, not one justice has ever
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Then I went and looked at twenty
eighteen, twenty nineteen. I went

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through year after year after year,
and not a single notation. This is

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unmentioned in the political piece, meaning
that she created a new standard for Neil

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Gore such that had not existed on
anyone. Then she wrote that he didn't

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even mention he was part of this
group and what they were selling, which

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on the first page of disclosure either
she didn't see it or she lied it

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says Walden Group LLC or whatever the
company's name was, and then the words

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mountain property, which is exactly what
he sold, and then specifically listed what

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it was, but she created this
perception that he had been bought by this

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guy who's a liberal by the way, who gives money to all liberal big

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Democrats owner And now, of course
the left wing runs with it, and

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they just pretend that he has bought, that Clarence Thomas has bought and it's

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just so, it's it's it's so. It just never would have happened,

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even twenty years ago, that the
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I'm not saying they didn't want to
smear people. I'm not saying that

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they didn't. But the shoddy work, the lack of sourcing, the inability

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to read a simple disclosure form or
lie about it is so transparent. And

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all the journalists retweet this story,
by the way, they're not like,

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oh, I'm embarrassed by this kind
of reporting. You know, all the

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big political journalists retweeted this, and
I don't know if anything I just made

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you said made sense because it's kind
of a convoluted story. But it is,

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of course as usual as every week
I'm infuriated something. Well, it's

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good for people to understand and be
able to recognize when they're in the midst

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of an information operation, And for
some reason it makes me think back to

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the twenty sixteen campaign. There was
this debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

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where she really worked hard to insert
and into an answer something that wasn't like

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completely relevant about a woman named Alicia
Machado I think it was, and how

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Donald Trump had been mean to her. And then immediately as the debate ended,

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there were these like glossy, high
color photo spreads of Alicia Machado and

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her story of how Donald Trump,
when he ran some pageant or something,

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had been mean to her about her
weight, and just I realized, this

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is like far afield from the account
port But I just want to point out

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that if you actually go back and
watch what happened at the time, it

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is true that this woman was was
some pageant winner, and that she had

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packed on quite a few pounds,
and that there was it had become a

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little bit of a public problem,
and Donald Trump actually was like really kind

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about it. He talked about how
everyone's a little overweight or a lot of

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people struggle with their weight, and
how she had a busy schedule and stuff,

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and so like she was going to
get more time to be able to

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focus on working out or something like
that, and so you know, the

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type of thing that could be construed
thirty years later is like the worst thing

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ever, but actually was pretty kind. The CNN report on it was like

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this fatty boom Ba Laddie thinks she
could be a beauty queen, but she's

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a porker, so she can't be. I mean, it was actually really

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funny report. Again, something you
couldn't do now, so compared to what

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was happening in the media, Donald
Trump was really nice. But mainly the

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point is that this woman was this
was being used as an info op to

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see this idea that Donald Trump mistreated
women and so like left out of the

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story was that she was like engaged
to a drug cartel leader or something like

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that. I don't remember what the
details were. Who among us has not

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had I have not fallen in love
with people who maybe shouldn't them. Okay,

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So my point just being this is
so obviously an info op that you'd

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have to be an idiot to not
recognize it. You've got the slow drip,

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You've got the pro publica, the
leftist the leftist corporate media outlet,

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or the leftist media outlet that sort
of runs democratic smears. You've got known

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dem propagandist like Heidi Prisbala. And
by the way, there's like an entire

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chapter about how much she messed up
one of the stories on the you know,

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the Cabina smear operation that the Left
ran. So now you've got her

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going and I just assumed the drip
will continue and that it will be focused.

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You know, they're they're clearly focused
on attacking the legitimacy of the court.

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They know that appetite for falsely accusing
good men of rape is a a

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low right now, so they're going
for some other thing to attack the legitimacy

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of the court. And they are
well coordinated, they're well funded, they

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control the corporate media, and so
they're sort of able to just have this

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go out. The reality is too
that you know, I know of at

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least two Democrat appointed justices who have
had to amend their financial disclosure forms because

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they you know, they fuilled it
out to their best of their ability,

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but it was not completely accurate.
There was the situation where the Katangi Brown

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Jackson had to amend like twelve years
I think of reporting from from when she

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was on the Lower Court. She
forgot to include her husband's income or something

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like that. So this is this
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the judiciary, and if people want
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that's fine, but this is clearly
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on Apple, Spotify, or wherever
you get your podcast. I have a

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few things to say. One is
is this it's that? Can I even

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say this? Well, first of
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and just say that, in neither
the Clarence Thomas story nor the Neil Gore

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such story does either story provide any
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either of those men justices cheam their
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like so it is, it's just
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of course, who's someone who I
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with than any of the other justices
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extremely indefensible Bostock opinions. So maybe
we should see if there's some secret,

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Yeah, Donor who was like,
buddy, I'll make you wealthy for life

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if you go against everything you believe
in and destroy jurisprudence in America with this

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insane opinion. It's amazing, though, how they'll they'll rag on these justices

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for being fascist and bought and conservative
and republican, but then they'll do something

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that lives like and they'll ignore it
like like you know, like they like

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now all of us. So why
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I think I don't know. I'm
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with all the time. I'm not
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they're all principal people. Certainly Clarence
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people to me. But anyway,
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There's no evidence that any conflict of
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But more than that is like what
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a sophisticated operation. One story.
You know, these stories will be thrown

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out there and then immediately they're embedded
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me read you a quick lead.
Senators Angus King and Lisa Murkowski have introduced

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a bipartisan bill. One Republican Lisa
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Alaska this year. So that noted
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Brett Kavanaugh. That one, right, that Republican. Okay, yeah,

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I've introduced an used the Bartis Bipartisan
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a new code of conduct for itself
after pro public Are revealed that Conservative Justice

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Clarence Thomas failed to disclose luxury trips
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First of all, he doesn't,
there is no law regulations, doesn't have

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to. Yeah, he does not
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this is framed, of course,
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that he did something he shouldn't have
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but you see how it's embedded.
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who signs onto this bill is basically
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is nothing unethical going on at all. And by the way, you have

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no constitutional power, Senate to tell
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business. Zero nut. Yeah,
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which is something I doubt le Simurkowski
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really have anything to say about the
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the ethics of Clarence Thomas, then
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place than it is right now.
That's the truth. Yeah, all right,

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I think you're angry about multiple things. That's the only one, really,

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Okay, I can think of this
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about Joe Biden running for president?
He announced that. Excellent segue, excellent

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segue. You're professional, I am, I am. I am not excited,

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obviously. I think he is one
of just a terrible president, both

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in an ideological and philosophical sense,
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know, I just don't think he's
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I can't believe he's running, but
I mean obviously expected it. I don't

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think there's anyone better for Democrats to
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he would run. This is what
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do kind of like how RFK Junior
running kind of forced him to declare early,

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Like didn't he say earlier he wasn't
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an end of summer or something like
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else out of the pool, so
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anyone else running? Act? I
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sniffing around there. I think that's
a good time as governor of California.

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I think he and others, he
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in general, especially in states like
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in places like that. Anyway.
I mean, I I think that Joe

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Biden's going to have a listen.
Anyone who thinks just because you're a bad

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president, you're not going to be
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having an immense advantage when running he
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won a second term, no matter
who he ran against. But he's not

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going to be able to hide in
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to hide in the basement this time. He's probably going to have to be

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more engaged, and that is a
grueling campaign. So I do wonder or

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maybe Americans won't care that he is
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really anymore, but it's going to
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to be very different. No matter
that's you know, the santist Trump,

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whoever is going to run against him. I think it's going to be a

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lot harder for it, right,
Like, it's much easier to run me.

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Wow, if you elect me,
you will have a calm relief from

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the chaos of the Trump era.
Even if Trump was great on the economy

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and foreign policy, you'll be relieved
from tweets or whatever. And then to

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do that same campaign four years later
when it's like, okay, the economies

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and the crapper foreign policies and nightmare
we're on the brink of World War three

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potentially. I've got the inflation that
Biden has helped exacerbate, no border that

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he intentionally tore down like day one, no energy independence, and in fact,

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a war on energy like it's much
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little issues that played a big role
in certain states, like Trump said that

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he thought Biden would go to war
on energy, and the media and other

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Democrats said that's a bald faced lie. No one cares more about oil than

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Joe Biden, you know, and
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It mattered in the close states like
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to say that you support oil after
you've done what you've done. Yeah,

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but I don't know how much it
matters because we just have ballot operations that

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they've got a really good ballot operation, so they'll probably just carry him or

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someone else across the finish line and
it won't matter what people want. I

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think it's that's part of it.
I also think there's just more hardening of

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partisan tribalism in the sense that people
aren't very are reluctant not to vote for

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people in their party, and it's
just really difficult to move people. That's

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why you really have to get people
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read that Biden is going to make
abortion the central campaign abortion access the central

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issue of his campaign nationally, and
maybe this is a contrarian view of mine.

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I don't know if you agree,
but I think the Democrat this idea

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that abortion is such an anchor for
the Republican Party is just a complete myth,

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complete myth. I don't buy it. I mean, I get a

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lot of blowback when I make this
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that that's true. I just,
first of all, I don't think abortions

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the top issue or anywhere close for
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I think that once states settle in
unfortunately many states just have abortion on demand

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told birth, that's not really going
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any real way. I don't know. I actually think that so long as

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Republicans don't talk about it, it's
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Again, they have the complete support
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history, which is our corporate media. Like that group loves killing babies more

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than it loves anything else in the
world. So they've got the complete,

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like almost like possessed support of corporate
media, and they have all their little

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like base voters that they want to
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you've got a Republican party that's like, maybe if we don't talk about it,

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it will be okay. If you
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are clearly on the side of American
opinion. Americans want at least some protection

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for unborn children at some point in
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demand through all nine months of pregnancy. Some even want it after birth,

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which is not technically abortion, but
you get the point. So this should

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be an easy This should be like
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even with our corrupt media. But
it's not going to be handled if you

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don't talk about it, if you
don't message it, if you don't put

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anything close to the money that Democrats
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these abortion issues you've got, you've
got pro lifers outspent by the people who

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support killing onboard children in the MOOM
like fifteen to one, like you're not

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going to win when you've got that
kind of disparity. So I don't actually

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think it's crazy for Biden to focus
on it. It is utterly insane that

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people like Mitch McConnell and other leaders
of the Republican Party are like, please

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don't talk about it. We just
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That's so insane. Is to be
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party. And I think Trump also, I didn't I don't remember exactly what

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he said, and it was like
talking about how it's only a state based

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issue, which is a fundamental misreading
of the Alito opinion, which merely accurately

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notes that there's no abortion right in
the Constitution and it's returned to the people,

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whether at the local, state,
or federal level. No, I

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agree with all that. I wrote
a column last week about how you're only

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going to win this if you stop
being cowards on the issue. But I

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do want to say, even if
every American thought that abortion was fine and

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it was a losing issue, that
doesn't make it any more less odious or

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my position more and moral anyway.
So I think you have to start from

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the position that you have the principled
correct position and that even if people disagreed

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with you, you can convince them
that they're wrong. We have stopped trying

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to convince people that or I hate
to use the word, but educate them

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on like how many Democrats are How
many voters know that Democrats are pro abortion

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from until birth for any reason?
Yeah? How they funded by the state.

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They don't know because the media lies
about it constantly. So Republicans need

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to pour tons of money into races
to let them know to reform them.

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I also love what you said about
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And this is something the two front
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Trump is like so far ahead that
it's not even close at this point.

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But Trump and Decantists both are kind
of derided as having populist rhetoric, and

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they certainly do, but they have
shown leadership on issues where they didn't have

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the majority of the people behind them
when they began. And Decantists had a

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line about this in his speech at
Heritage on Friday, about leading people rather

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than just responding to like misinformed polls. And you even take something like understanding

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the threat post by China at the
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I don't know what the polling numbers
were, but like inside DC, it

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was considered absolute anathema, and now
it's kind of conventional wisdom. Like people

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have different debates about how to handle
it, but everyone kind of agrees China

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is a threat that needs to be
managed there. It needs to be issues

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here. And he didn't do that
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He did it by leading people to
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think Rond de Sciantists has shown real
courage and leadership going against what we're probably

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polls showing no support for ending lockdowns
or even whatever these like crazy poles were

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showing at the time, and I
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to do it on principle and then
encounterintuitively, ignoring the polls and leading people

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is actually good politics too. Absolutely
one thing on abortion poles, they're garbage.

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Most of them are complete garbage.
The questions are garbage. They usually

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ask things like do you support abortion
access or something? What the what?

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What is this abortion access? Like
it's such a weird it's like such a

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nice euphemism for like, do you
think life should be ended violently in the

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womb after it has begun. Not
even that nobody would do a poll question

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like that, And it's actually more
accurate and clear than the whatever this euphemism

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is about access, which is just
a land parent, a freaking talking point

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nobody, nobody, no self respecting
person should use. Do you support a

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reproductive justice? Yeah? No,
that that's true, that euphemisms are ridiculous.

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But beyond that, there are no
parameter useful parameters in a poll like

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that. What does that tell us? Lots of people support abortion access to

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six weeks, let's say, but
men, no book, very few people

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support it at the end of pregnancy, and yet they clod in. But

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anyway, that's what I'm saying.
So those poles are garbage. And again,

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like you said, I think that
to Santa signing the six week ban

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won't hurt him in poles in Florida, And I am not against him taking

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a thoughtful kind of political approach to
abortion, like you know, he can

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say. Listen, I'm pro life. I believe life begins, you know,

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at deception, But I realize that
not everyone's there. You notice how

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everyone always has to evolve to the
pro abortion but no one ever evolves to

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the life position. But he has
to say, I'm going to wait for

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America to bob and we if we
do it on the state level, now

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that's fine. I think Florida's ready
for that. Maybe New York's not,

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but they will be one day.
Whatever. I don't know. I'm all

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for incrementally getting where you want.
The left always incrementally gets there. They

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pass giant bill and then they make
that the new baseline. Then they lose,

407
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you know whatever, but they're always
moving forward. And Republicans don't fight

408
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like that. Publican senators complete cowards
on this issue because they look at Poles

409
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,039
and it And I wrote this in
the column, no one's more horror.

410
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:57,400
No one was more horrified of dobb
than Dobbs and the Republican Party, you

411
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know what I mean. It's sure
they were horrified that they'd actually have to

412
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do something because for years you could
take the pro life position and every voter

413
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,160
knew you wouldn't actually do anything because
there there is Row. Well Row is

414
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,839
now gone, and you have to
do something. It's mind boggling that they

415
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have not come up with a coherent, uh your message or a compelling message

416
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or a message that lets people know
what democrats are really about. Anyway.

417
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I think one other week we talked
about this and I mentioned all the politicians

418
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who have signed six week bands or
fifteen week bands where one races like JD

419
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,039
vance in formal you know purple states
that you know Ohio was a purple state

420
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:41,880
only. How many years ago Florida
was a state only? How many you

421
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can you can change these states by
being you know, smart on these issues.

422
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,720
Anyway, I don't even know why
I'm hey politicians so much, but

423
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I don't get any opportunities to say
nice things about Nicki Haley. And I

424
00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:00,440
noticed this week she had always been
kind of um she identified as pro life,

425
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160
but it she almost like spoke it
as a second language. And this

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week she she had some really good
remarks and it kind of kind of alonglines

427
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,319
what you're saying. And she compared
it to how she got rid of the

428
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,079
Confederate flag it's state capital or whatever, how to like move people along,

429
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,640
and she really leaned into being pro
life, and it was nice to see.

430
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,240
Yeah, it's nice to see that. Yeah. I mentioned that,

431
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,640
you know, when the media talks
about someone who becomes a pro life they've

432
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,920
evolved, they've seen the light,
you know. But the other way,

433
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,519
they're always regressive when they become pro
pro choice choice I mean, yeah,

434
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,039
which I hate that term as well. That term itself is a euphemism pro

435
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,279
choice, you know. But I
don't want to get into all that.

436
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,920
But I just think, and as
you know, I'm a secular person.

437
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,799
I grew up in a liberal place. I am, you know. I

438
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:55,880
think that there's a rational not just
a religious but a rational, compelling argument

439
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,720
made for to protect life. It's
like the one of the most important things

440
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,039
we can do, the most moral
things we can do. And I just

441
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:06,599
don't understand why why some of these
people as such cowards. So it's good

442
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:10,359
to know that Nicky Haley made a
good argument. She's evolving in a very

443
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:16,079
nice way. I like your terms
evolving to an enlightened opinion. You can

444
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:20,519
tell, it's funny. You can
tell when someone takes a position that's a

445
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:24,240
second language to them, like on
guns or something or what's that guy's name

446
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:30,200
is, running back Ramaswami. Yeah, I feel like he speaks populism as

447
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,559
a second language. So I'm just
gonna say something. I actually just kind

448
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:39,279
of enjoy him, meaning I pause
when he's talking. I kind of want

449
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,880
to hear what he has to say. Definitely someone I don't agree with on

450
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,400
everything, and sometimes I think he
has more confidence in what he's saying than

451
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,400
actual support, like ideological support for
what he's saying. But I'm usually annoyed

452
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,200
by people who run for president who
have no chance, like Asa Hutchinson.

453
00:33:57,359 --> 00:34:01,519
But there's something I don't know.
I'm just kind of interested to see what

454
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:05,839
happens with this dude. Yeah,
I don't think. I mean, I

455
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,760
don't know. I wish that he
had some kind of policy idea that was

456
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,760
out, you know, different than
what everyone else was sort of saying,

457
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,440
and that he pushed that more and
that it was something innovative. But I

458
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:24,480
don't really feel like that's I do
think his personal knowledge of woke corporatism and

459
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:31,360
his opposition to say, his like
knowledgeable opposition to same is interesting. Yeah,

460
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,079
the rest of the By the way, this always reminds me that I

461
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,840
always thought Andrew Yang must be some
like billionaire who was retired early as a

462
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,039
young person and running for president,
and that this sort of made his candidacy

463
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,960
makes sense. And then he had
that debate where he said that he was

464
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,960
having trouble paying for health insurance.
I know I've said this before, and

465
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,960
it was the most alarming thing I've
ever heard in a debate, because I

466
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,000
was like, why in the h
double hockey sticks is this guy on stage?

467
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,920
He's poor? Yeah, where you
come from. I have an elitist

468
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,840
outlook on something, and that's people
run for office. I've said this before

469
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,239
on the show. You need to
be the bare minimum is being more successful

470
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,440
than I am. Like, I'm
a middling human being in the world.

471
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:16,960
I am not super. You know, I'm just right out there getting I'm

472
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,679
just getting by and all that.
Fine, But you need to be more

473
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,679
successful than I am, because if
you're not, that means you've done something

474
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,559
in your life that is wrong.
You know what I'm saying that you're simply

475
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,360
not prepared for adulthood in any real
way. I was speaking of adulthood,

476
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,400
you know, I was speaking with
my wife and I realize I'm just a

477
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,960
fifteen year old boy in a fifty
three year old man's spot. Because here

478
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,239
are the things that I do.
I just bought a guitar yesterday, buy

479
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,519
records, I have a book,
I ride my bike, Like all the

480
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:49,920
things I do. You are you
basically sound like my husband? But do

481
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,639
you not enjoy your life? I
absolutely love my life every day. I'm

482
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,840
like, I am the luckiest person. I mean, if you asked me

483
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,760
when I was fifteen year old,
like what do you want to do when

484
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,960
you're fifty three, and I'd be
like, I want to ride my bike

485
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,280
records. I feel like a fourteen
year old boy because I find offensive jokes

486
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,440
funny, like about human you know, human liquids or whatever. Like I

487
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:15,800
I like laugh at stupid jokes.
And I find women and their bodies to

488
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,400
be utterly fascinating, Like nothing makes
me so happy. It seem like a

489
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,239
beautiful woman walk down the street.
I think I'm a fourteen year old boy

490
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:29,880
right Probably Also the TV shows I
watch, I just the dumbest things,

491
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,719
you know, so and I wonder
if that's a problem. This is for

492
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,639
another podcast. It's good, this
is an hour show, but I just

493
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:37,320
want to say, I wonder if
that's the problem. Our lives in many

494
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,320
ways are so good. And I'm
not saying everyone lives a life like me,

495
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:45,039
but I noticed that a lot of
older men my age do things that

496
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,719
I would not have seen my grandfather
do For instance, my grandfather wore a

497
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,599
fedora, you know what I mean, like he was an adult. He

498
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:53,079
looked like he was fifty when he
was thirty, you know what I mean.

499
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,760
But I'm like, you know,
I'm at shorts and sandal that's a

500
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,840
flip flops, you know, and
stuff like that. So I just maybe

501
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,440
we're too immature anyway, that's for
another. I have to think that through

502
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,199
good that you just threw that out, you know, to the to the

503
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:13,360
world. Maybe well a perfect segue. Maybe people can mail us on that,

504
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,480
and you know where they can do
that at radio at the Federalist dot

505
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:22,119
com. Just radio at the Federalist
dot com. So have you did you

506
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:28,760
do any cultural stuff this week you
want to discuss with the group? Yes,

507
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,800
two things. One I went to
well I already mentioned the Heritage gala,

508
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,239
which was very fun. And Dirk
Spentley is that his name? Did

509
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,039
just make that up? You know
the country music start the I literally definitely

510
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:43,559
would not know about the country.
Okay, it was great, It was

511
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,760
good. He had like a bunch
of guitarists. It was really fun.

512
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:51,159
So and then the next night I
went to the M eighty three concert do

513
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:53,639
you know that band Amy three.
I do not. It's more like a

514
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,519
French dude. And I think there
are other people who play with him.

515
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,639
And I really like m At three. I've loved so many of their albums.

516
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:07,880
The most recent album is weak and
kind of ugly, and I was

517
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,440
really thinking a lot about Tucker's speech
where he talked about the fruits of good

518
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:19,559
versus the fruits of evil and how
good produces beauty and evil produces ugliness and

519
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,039
chaos and disorder, and it was
just interesting. Like this album, the

520
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,119
I think, like the image for
it is like kind of a monster on

521
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:30,199
the cover, and it's very ugly, and the music is very much less

522
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,960
good than the previous albums. And
the concert also was not great, and

523
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,559
it was partly not great because it
was based on that album, but the

524
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:46,039
crowd seemed just kind of annoying to
me. It was a very seemed like

525
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:52,360
a drug fueled crowd, and I
did not enjoy that. And I had

526
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,400
gone to the Anthem, which is
this venue in DC a few months prior

527
00:38:55,519 --> 00:39:00,199
to see Arcade Fire and it was
exactly the opposite. It was just like

528
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,119
an amazing concert. The vibe was
so strong. Regina whatever her name is,

529
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,199
who's like in the band, was
just like vibing with the crowd,

530
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,320
and it was it was like great, and this one was less good.

531
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,199
So I have another thing really quickly. Yeah, I have a friend who's

532
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,039
just reading through scripture and she's always
talking about it, and so I had

533
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:25,000
wanted to do it during Lent,
to just kind of do much more scripture

534
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:28,679
study. And then I got really
really sick, to the point that it

535
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:34,480
was just putting me behind on everything. And a listener said that I had

536
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:42,239
been given a Lenten discipline by being
sick, like the external gift of this

537
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,159
sickness was itself a spiritual discipline.
And when I thought about it that way,

538
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,239
I realized the whole point of spiritual
discipline is to kind of make your

539
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:58,760
faith stronger and just help you with
your path of being a Christian. And

540
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,159
it provoked in me this desire to
go ahead and do what I was wanting

541
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,559
to do at the beginning of Lent. And so I just started at Genesis

542
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:12,000
one. And I have read a
lot of scripture. I'm Lutheran. We

543
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:15,880
do nothing but read scripture. Like
every service is a lot of different big

544
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,840
chunks of passages of scripture. We
do Bible study. I read devotional books

545
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,760
where you go through different books of
the Bible, but like I hadn't really

546
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,400
just sat down and read it straight
through. And I've been doing a combination

547
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,239
of reading it with my Lutheran study
Bible notes and then also just reading it

548
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:36,360
like a book, kind of like
I'm if I'm in a car, i

549
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,880
just read it on my phone,
and if I'm at home, I read

550
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,480
it with my study Bible, which
has really interesting notes. David Harsani,

551
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:51,559
this Book of Genesis read like a
book. Is the most interesting book I've

552
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:54,920
ever read. Like it was amazing
and I just finished, Oh my gosh.

553
00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:05,719
The ending. The ending is this
verse knows about how you know what

554
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,519
you meant for evil God meant for
good. And I'd always understood that verse

555
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:14,960
and I've always you know, I
don't, like ef ever had any confusion

556
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:20,199
about it. But having it in
the context of this story of the generations

557
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:25,679
and how God is protecting his people
and preserving them through all of these all

558
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:32,599
of this craziness, it was riveting
and it's so deepened my understanding of life

559
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:37,599
as a Christian. And I started
Exodus, and that's off to a great

560
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:40,559
start as well, and I'm just
so excited and it's like I've finally I

561
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,519
finally hit the age where like this
is what I get to do, and

562
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:47,920
I'm so excited, like I can't
wait to get back to the next chapter

563
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,480
to read the next part. That's
fascinating. Do you know what I did

564
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,159
the other day? I was in
Walmart, which at place I hate,

565
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:02,960
and I saw a T shirt that's
is y'all need Jesus? And I bought

566
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,519
it, Yes, of an honor
of the rest of the Federalist staff and

567
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:14,079
especially Sean Davis, who keeps saying
everyone needs to find Jesus. So every

568
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:17,360
time I Duke Gutfeld and they're talking
about some like a horrible thing, I

569
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:22,039
always my response that I always want
to say, but I keep it together,

570
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,639
is y'all need Jesus like you are. You all need Jesus. Because

571
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:31,679
you know, my position is that
we need a far more religious people and

572
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,039
that we're great because we were religious. I had a lot to do with

573
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:43,079
our success, especially Protestantis from my
Catholic friends. I'm very you know,

574
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,760
it's a beautiful religion as well.
But um so I think I want to

575
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,719
spread the message, not for me
personally, but for the rest of you,

576
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,760
you'll get there. I'm so excited. I can't wait for that to

577
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,719
happen. But anyway, um no, I think that's it. It's m

578
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,840
maybe three and the Book of Genesis, so I doesn't have to say too

579
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:07,360
sorry Genesis. I think I mentioned
before that when I saw The Godfather in

580
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,400
my twenties, I was babysitting for
some friends kids and I watched The Godfather,

581
00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:15,360
and then the next day at church, I was telling everybody that The

582
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,599
Godfather is a very good movie.
And my husband will never let me live

583
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,320
this down. That I was trying
to tell people, like decades after the

584
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,400
fact, to see a movie that
everybody knows is really good. That's how

585
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,960
I feel about Genesis. I'm like, have you did you know what happened

586
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,360
there? Like it's amazing, And
I'm telling my kids, and my kids

587
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,119
are very well read, like this
is crazy. It's like, what happened

588
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,039
here? It's so cool. Anyway, So I have to say, though,

589
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:43,400
you do you rediscover things, not
just biblical things, but just movies,

590
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:45,840
novels, and you read them at
a different age and it has a

591
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,840
completely different effect on you. So
you know, I'd always said I wanted

592
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,119
to go to Revelation when I was
older, and I'm now older, so

593
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,159
that's that's going to be the ending
of this. I'm so sorry to interrupt

594
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:00,960
you now now are our co worker? I think Sean Davis mentioned the Book

595
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,159
of Daniel. We were having some
some kind of discussion and I had really

596
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,039
just read some of it, and
it's like this spooky, crazy book,

597
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:10,239
you know, and you're like,
this is I went to Yeshiva and all

598
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,079
lad and it just didn't come off
that way when I was fourteen, you

599
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:15,719
know what I mean? But now
I like, this book is scary,

600
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,760
so so I get it. I'm
actually reading a book called Who Wrote the

601
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Bible, which is fascinating about the
Jewish, about Tatar itself, but also

602
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:28,760
other Jewish books, and she tries
to piece together the sort of historical backing

603
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,480
of it, which I'm a big
fan of. But I did not.

604
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:37,960
My cultural menu is not as high
brow as that. This week it's I

605
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:45,360
watched John mulvaney, the comedian.
I didn't love it. Now, you

606
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,039
know, he obviously he's had problems. He divorced his wife, he was

607
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,760
he had a big drug problem,
and it's about that journey. Um,

608
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,159
but as my wife pointed out,
you know, he's a little it seemed

609
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:00,239
to me as well that he's a
little still taken with the drug lifestyle,

610
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,360
like it's funny. Then he makes
fun of himself for being a drug addict,

611
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,840
but he still sort of treated it
as like this cool counter lifestyle,

612
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,719
you know what I mean, Like
there was just this is just me being

613
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,280
an old, middle aged man with
kids who doesn't want my kids to do

614
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,039
drugs and stuff. But the tone
of it still just what I probably would

615
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,639
have found it a lot funnier if
I was like thirty five, you know

616
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:23,960
what I mean. M Yeah,
no, I know exactly what you mean,

617
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:29,960
But I still was it funny otherwise, Yeah, there are funny parts

618
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,199
to it. He's a he's funny, and I didn't love all of it,

619
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,760
but it's like not as funny as
his older stuff that I watched,

620
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,920
but it's still worth watching if you're
a fan of his comedy in general.

621
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,800
Yeah. The other thing I watched
is called Personality Crisis. Have you heard

622
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,760
of this? Aout? This documentary
co directed by Martin Scorsese of David Johansson,

623
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,800
who was a member of the New
York Dolls in the early seventies,

624
00:45:52,960 --> 00:46:00,239
transgressive band, like you know,
the dress like women a kind of but

625
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,199
they didn't really act like women or
want people to think they were women,

626
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,960
so it's a little different. They
played this sort of garage rock. It

627
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,000
was amazing. But David Johansson then
put out so albums that were sort of

628
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,639
been like an icon in New York, like rock Circles, and then he

629
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,000
was Buster Poindexter, which most people
know him as he's saying hot, Hot,

630
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:22,320
Hot that song, and so what
he does that that's a alter ego

631
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:25,159
or a you know, altered a
personality, but he what he did in

632
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:29,719
this show. So it's kind of
like a concert at a Carlisle Hotel in

633
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,639
New York and they go through his
life story he was born and Stanton and

634
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:39,440
all that, and he sings David
Johansson's songs in the persona of Buster Poindexter.

635
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:44,079
So anyway, if you're into that
sort of thing, it was it

636
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:46,440
was okay and interesting. And I
would say anything Martin Scorsese does has a

637
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:50,920
sort of like high level of quality
to it. And he did the Dylan

638
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,239
biography and The Stones, but a
documentary in the Stones documentary, and this

639
00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:00,079
is in a similar vein. That's
all I have. Okay, great,

640
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:05,239
all right everyone, we'll be back
next week. The lovers of freedom,

641
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,400
then anxious freed of fret,
